Saucony GUIDE 17 - First Impressions Review (HUGE UPDATE)

[@JAMESBAKER-jm5dv]

Got a cheap pair of Saucony Guide 15 to see if the support would help my knee injury. They got me back running pain free almost the first time I wore them. Well worth £60 .

[@TheFODRunner]

Incredible!

[@JDeezle21]

I picked these up two weeks ago and fully agree with you. I'm not a stability runner as in these are the only shoe in my 20 shoe rotation that is a stability shoe. I love them for easy runs. They are just easy to knock out daily miles. I've just been back and forth between these on most runs and the Adidas Adizero Adios 8 on workout days.

[@garethevans2499]

Not that I watch a bit too many FOD videos but: my first thought was "I see the road works have been finished so he's and to use the industrial estate again".

[@TheFODRunner]

Haha well… they’re still going on BUT they’re moved further up the high street now for the final bit so a bit less traffic on the estate now 😂

[@JDeezle21]

😂

[@ericlim7762]

Good review on the Guide 17, so much so that it makes me more decisive in switching out my Guide 16..Although still love running on my Endorphin Speed 3..

[@markknee4421]

I bought the Guide 15 on the cheap, to replace my Brooks Adrenaline GTS 22, which I've done 600 easy kilometres in over the past 8 months. I don't love the 15, it's not a shoe I want to naturally reach for, but equally I want to get my money out of it! I'm glad the technology is moving away from traditional "post" type stability. Being fairly new to the stability game, I like my shoes to feel a bit more natural, like my favourite neutral shoes formerly. I have the Hoka Arahi 6 as my casual daily shoe, and I love that. I probably will naturally gravitate towards the 17 in time, so thank you for finding time to review it, and please do an update when you've put a few more miles in it. Best wishes for your gradual rebuild towards London. I'm in training for the Limassol marathon in April. Like you with Barcelona, I'm combining a holiday with a race.

[@TravelRunner]

Great comparison of the outsole width to a Hoka shoe, I was thinking the exact same thing. It also looks like Saucony is following Brooks with the higher side-wall rubber for stability (Brooks calls them Guide Rails). I would have liked to see the medial side of the shoes as well, considering it's a stability shoe. And finally, I don't think stability shoes are "niche market" as they make up nearly half of all running shoe purchases (at least in the US). Thanks for sharing this review, Andy.

[@TheFODRunner]

Thanks buddy, yes brooks do call them guide rails, they have them on the hyperion GTS that I have! I think the popularity over here isn’t quite as much, I think the ratio of neutral / stability is more in the favour of neutral! But I might be wrong 🤔

[@TravelRunner]

@@TheFODRunner How do you like the Hyperion GTS?

[@TheFODRunner]

@@TravelRunner I prefer the normal hyperion… the GTS is too heavy for purpose. The hyperion is lightweight and a good fast shoe with minimal stack… the GTS version keeps the minimal stack but isn’t as light so it feels a bit of a dud sadly

[@TravelRunner]

@@TheFODRunner good to know.

[@Devilinthehole]

I had my running analyzed today for the first time and it was scary to see just how much of an angle my feet went off at. I tried three pairs from various brands (the others were Hoka and Brooks) and these were by far the best fit and style for me so I'm looking forward to getting out in them.

[@craigtsmith6957]

Andy your left foot overpronation is gone! And if it runs a good as a neutral. Happy Days. Got to help the body recover 😊

[@teresavanlokven9767]

Kind of managed 30min / 5km on treadmill on my first run in what seems like forever and opted to used the Triumph21's which is one of the favourite allrounders I have and not a million miles away from the 20's or 19's Okay there not a an overly quick shoe (and not meant to be) but I didn't think the previous Guides were and apart from cost couldn't see where they fitted into the Saucony lineup. The Speed line up are a no brainer if you want something a bit quicker . Ian

[@warrencusick1775]

I've got the guide 15 and using it for my first marathon training programme, and today bought the guide 17 to run the marathon in, feel nice comfy and spacious. How many miles would you suggest to get into them so there broken in b4 the marathon?

[@notall1196]

So no post? I may check this out for my tired legs in deep training.

[@atulatulatul1]

Guide 17 or Kayano 30..?

[@dustinjohnson267]

How did this do with outside runs. I’m worried about durability. But I love the fit first shoe to fit both feet great. But I’m either want to get 2 pairs of these for rotation or get a pair and a pair for brooks glycerin 21s for outdoor runs. Thank you. Which would you do

[@georgemylonas3873]

Great review! How would you compare the Guide 17 to Tempus?

[@Chungdol]

Hard to compare, the Tempus is relatively unknown because marketing wise its a flop, it was designed as an stabilty option for the Speed series, but its not speedy at all (but it can do pick up the pace). Both are real workhorses. Some complain that they feel the medial stability foam of the Tempus, but for the most the Tempus is a no brainer. Both are very wide in the toebox, the Guide17 - so said our tech rep - is a "better Hoka" - and I agree to that. My opinion its a style decision. Except one thing: if your femur rotates to inside during your knee lift then stay away from the Guide17, because the wide platform will make the natural knee counter movement even worse leading to a beating of your knee to the outside. (you could and should fix that with training tho)

[@georgemylonas3873]

@@Chungdol thanks a lot! That helped a lot

[@Manuel_1808]

First Like from Spain 🇪🇸. Good information, Andy. Have a nice day.

[@grimetone]

Have been using the Guide in wide sizing for years now. Going for wide on the 17 might be too much judging by your footage.

[@WarneysWorld]

What do you think of the power run plus inner soles? I find they make the balls of my feet get really hot. Obvs you can swap them out, but I was wondering if it’s just me

[@TheFODRunner]

I haven’t had that issue… yet

[@justanoldfashionedrunner605]

would you suggest the Guide over the ride for me, who likes firmer shoes and has run i stability shoes in the psat without problems ?

[@TheFODRunner]

Absolutely… I think the guide is a really really good option… the ride feels fast and is still quite stable, but the guide really feels like a smooth and solid daily option

[@justanoldfashionedrunner605]

@@TheFODRunner thanks Andy, that is what i thought, when you saif you liked the Guide more than the Novablast 4. Over the last few years on the average most new daily trainers are to0 soft or squishy for me. So i guess i put the Guide on my list for black Friday and put the Ride on hold for the moment

[@TheFODRunner]

@@justanoldfashionedrunner605 yeah I’m quite surprised but I definitely do enjoy this one, a breath of fresh air!

[@vindicatelightheartedapropos]

You said you didn’t like the previous versions and you do love the 17 because of less structural stability. Well maybe that’s because you don’t need the extra stability because you usually run in neutral shoes. I myself really need the extra stability if I don’t want to run in severe ankle pain, so maybe this new Guide is not a good choice for Guide-lovers like me. Disclaimer: yes I have yet to try them out and yes I feel personally attacked because I love the Guide. 😄

[@TheFODRunner]

Very true and very possible! What I will say is I felt these roll me through the outside of the foot and toe off nicely without collapsing in so I’d love to hear from someone who really needs stability shoes and how they find them! Sorry, I just couldn’t get on with the previous versions 😂

[@grey_fox7]

If the Guide 17 is still powerrun in midsole, I'm wondering why it feels softer than the 16 which has the same midsole?

[@TheFODRunner]

It’s a different compound for sure, 16 is much more dense

[@WarneysWorld]

I tried them and was surprised how soft the pwrrun foam was having seen some reviews saying it was on the firmer side. I was looking for a firmer compound than this so didn’t go for it

[@grey_fox7]

@WarneysWorld which version did you try, the Guide 16 or 17?

[@WarneysWorld]

@@grey_fox7 17

[@WarneysWorld]

@@grey_fox7 the 17, I didn’t rate them to be honest but obvs we’re all different!

[@prebenmartinussen7674]

Bougt it for my opcoming 100 km 👻

[@TheFODRunner]

👊

[@teresavanlokven9767]

Stability in the Guide is questionable. Ian