Can DeWalt TOUGH SYSTEM 2.0 Compete with Milwaukee PACKOUT?

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

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[@j.zacarias3242]

Just bought the Dewalt 2.0 system. I'm using them mainly to store and keep my tools in one spot. I think I'll be fine. But I would definitely go with the Milwaukee system if I was a tradesman. Seems geared a lot more for trades people. I'm just a guy in my garage doing handy work for me. Thanks for the review. Simple and honest.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks for checking out the channel

[@motionmindcaftmindcafter]

You made everything super clear in this video but people are still going to hate in the comments. In the end just pick whatever is best for you.

[@baustinmcmanus1991]

I couldn't agree more. I just invested in the Milwaukee packout system today because I also made the switch from Dewalt to Milwaukee today. I love Dewalt. No issues with them whatsoever. But I am a mechanic now and that is fairly new, and Milwaukee has more mechanic tools than Dewalt, so the switch for me was necessary. But in the end, honestly, go with the brand you like best. They all have their pros and cons.

[@shawnrobertson3924]

Most of your grips are with the Dewalt 1.0 box. I thought this was a comparison for the 2.0

[@thomasmurry70]

thank you point well made

[@monchovids]

Yup, apples to apples.

[@ridik4267]

My thoughts exactly and don’t forget dewalt has half size as well.

[@whosnext2005]

The toughsystem 2.0 has half size organizers like the packout one you have your left arm on. They also have trays that latching in the medium box pretty nice. But like you said the packout is still an overall nice, easier to use system. Keep up the great reviews.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thank you:)

[@kevinnickens]

I'm a mobile auto detailer and the packout is amazing. I don't have the DeWalt, but I can say for sure that if you get the packout, you will not be disappointed.

[@DMSparky]

I’m neutral to the Packout system and I have been running it since the week it was released. Pros: - Connecting system works well - latches work well - all hinges seem robust - lots of packout options now - strong and extremely durable (systainers I’m looking at you....) Cons: -Base options kind of suck (note: sucks a lot less now that they have the two wheel cart.) -the only large case has wheels on it. -Have to take out a line of credit to afford it. If you have a lot of tools and stuff to organize that is. -no drawer options what the hell. (Nvm they have a drawer system now) 2021 release -did I mention it was freaking expensive! -huge and bulky, the interior volume of the cases tend to be small compared exterior dimensions. -basically need a truck or van to carry them. -pain in the ass to lock up.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

excellent points

[@michaeldodson879]

Just to let you know that I believe your video reviews are the most honest and straightforward out there. You don’t leave any doubt about how you feel about the products you review. I really appreciate your comments concerning how you would use a product as well as how it may or may not function. Well done and please keep it up.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Dang, really appreciate that Michael. Thanks for supporting the channel!

[@anonymousm9113]

I just discovered your channel and subscribed w/all notifications. Incidentally, I just picked up the ToughSystem 2.0 stack from Home Depot yesterday. The good news is (and you probably missed them since even DeWalt's website doesn't list them) there are new 2.0 half-width organizers. The yellow tab at the top of the ToughSystem 2.0 box is a hook to catch one side of the new organizers and upcoming bags and boxes, while they clip in on the other side. I picked up two of those organizers yesterday (currently $20, regularly $25). I've had the Ridgid modular system since 2014, the ToughSystem since 2016, and the Packout since 2018 and the Packout is far better than the former two. Currently, I'm sitting at about three Ridgid, four ToughSystem (three 1.0 and the new 2.0), and two Packout stacks plus miscellaneous boxes and organizers, along with a couple of VersaStak (T-Stak in red, more or less), err...stacks and other pieces. The only system I've had issues with is DeWalt's. A DS450 (large box on wheels) had extending handle issues (the handle would pull out too far), then a helper broke the side of the box picking it up using the side handles while it was loaded. Also, a couple of my smaller boxes have had internal bits of plastic break off. To DeWalt's credit, they replaced the large box with no questions, though it was a pain trying to ship the old one back. If I had to rate them I'd say that Ridgid offers the best bang for the buck, albeit with much more limited options; DeWalt was an innovator early on and still offers a good combination of options and price point; and Milwaukee stood back, watched the other modular systems, and released a very well thought out and extremely diverse Packout system that costs at least 25% more than the other two. With that said, I've got to find my drywall tool kit (in a Ridgid box somewhere), locate my DeWalt screwguns and cutout tool, and decide whether to load up the newer Packout or the ToughSystem 2.0 for a job this weekend. Keep up the great work!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Ahhhhh- a fellow man of the tool:) thanks for supporting the channel.

[@randyniles1526]

I really appreciate your candid comments. Saves someone like myself multiple trips to the store (or, what's worse - trips to UPS as I try to return merch). Looks like Packout is still the clear winner. Thanks!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks for checking out the channel!

[@mystoryhisglory9438]

Just purchased the packout recently and so glad that I did. Best system on the market hands down not even comparible foreal. Thanks man

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Great to hear!

[@2hornet2]

Enjoying your videos. You have a smooth and honest delivery that is easy to watch. It must be a cabinet/finishing thing. Keep it up!

[@mikemorgan5015]

Once again, spot on with your points. I sat here nodding my head like a Fox and Friends host. Rimshot! I have the Tough System 1.0 and Packout. The ONLY advantages I see in the tough system are: 1. The inside of the boxes is more, well, box shaped. No funky undulations and weird angles. That makes it easier to modify with custom plywood dividers or lift out trays, sliders, etc. I understand Milwaukee put those in there for a reason, probably rigidity, maybe proprietarity? But I can get more stuff in the same size TS box. 2. I like the trays that lock to the lid on the small tool box better than the Milwaukee loose tray design. The negatives. Side latches SUCK! I actually liked the build of the Rigid boxes best, but the latching method was a no-go. The metal latches SUCK. I know they aren't all metal now, though. All metal latches was one of the reasons I chose the TS1 in the first place. You simply cannot leave them unlatched in a work area. They will snag your pant legs, or worse, OUCH. And the plastic clip that holds the latch to the box get broken VERY easily. I've broken 3 of them. The locking system of Packout is simply genius. As you said, they really do want to fall into place on their own, and unlatch effortlessly, as do the lid latches. They hold even the smallest parts in their respective trays way better than the TS1. The tray dividers can be easily modified to make 4 slot trays with a couple quick cuts to saddle cross them, doubling the number of slots for small hardware. The Packout dolly is awesome. Got it on sale. Didn't think I'd like it. I was wrong. You can access boxes that aren't on top of the stack. The cooler is OK but not great. Way overpriced. The soft Totes are good but not great. Not enough slots for easy access on the outside. Using more than one tote makes them hard to get on and off the stack. The crate is good, but for 40 bucks, not that good. LOVE the half height organizers for hardware. The negative: The rolling box handles on BOTH systems need to either retract fully down or be disconnected. The wheels on the PO are far superior. Rolls smoother and quieter. You can have stacks of PO boxes next to each other, even touching, or in a shelf the same width as the boxes and still unlatch and access them. You don't have to gain side access first to unlatch. (A HUGE ISSUE FOR ME). I've never had a latch break or come undone. The boxes lock together positively every time with a healthy click. No guessing. I've had the TS1 unhook on one side a few times. Not good. Well there's my 2 cents. Keep up the great work. You do a great job. No BS.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

awesome comment! Thanks for all the info- I always learn a tonne of new info reading the comments.

[@therichway8535]

You are definitely entitled to your opinion, and I agree the Packout is top quality. The #1 thing I'd say for Dewalt is that their 2.0 is not really out yet. You are comparing bin organizers from Packout and Dewalt 1.0. The price difference is ridiculous, so of course the Packout is going to be better. For this review, you really can only compare the 3 Dewalt 2.0 containers with the same 3 from Packout. If you still prefer Packout, then that is fine, but comparing 1.0 bin containers to Packout is really not even fair. The bottom line is that Dewalt just needs to come out with more 2.0 products and fast. I look forward to your review of that in the future.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Extremely fair points Mike. Will definitely do this in the future. Thanks for checking out the channel.

[@GrosLaf]

it's like the 10th review on tool box system that I watch, and finally a good one. And the best tip in all that was about the roll out system. I had the same reflection and was having a hard time picturing myself rolling this thing inside someone's house in winter and bagging it in his wooden stairs, so that comment sold me. I'll most certainly look around your other videos! Keep 'em coming!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Really appreciate the feedback, glad you found it helpful. Thanks for checking out the channel:)

[@WowRixter]

I think you should get your son involved in some of your reviews. Once you've done all the techie stuff your son can give the simplicity seal of approval

[@sidknee4975]

I love my dewalt tough 1.0 But I’m switching, big time.

[@CrapE_DM]

I only use Tough System because my tool system started with winning a DeWalt tool set that came with a Tough System case. There are only 2 things that I like better about the DeWalt system more: The rolling cart and the wall rack. Both of them use the nice grooves on the sides of the cases to hold them up, and it's also not terribly difficult to build your own rack systems to utilize these. The cost is a little better with DeWalt, too, but as your video shows, there's a good reason for that.

[@atweetythuyvi]

You already sold me at the cleat system. Loved that sound! But the container bins damn! Thank you!

[@hometronicsflllc3952]

Went with packout last year- can’t wait for the racking kit so I can re-do my entire van setup with my 20 packout boxes and organizers

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Dude, email a picture when you get that setup complete!

[@CJNAPOLEON77]

I would like to see that picture as well

[@leftysmalls]

I as well.

[@craigl.mcallester9610]

Me 4. Maybe you could explain why you have so many boxes.

[@wrlsfanatic1532]

I only recently found your channel, and I'm still a novice woodworker, but I absolutely love your reviews. A perfect example of "why" was last month's Festool / Milwaukee comparison. That note about the forward/reverse switch on the Milwaukee... that's a deal-breaker for me. SUCH a great point by you. Every drill I've ever owned works exactly the same way. No reason to make that a switch on the top. And the fact that it won't stand up is also a big deal. In a day of working on a project, I might set my drill down several dozen times. Having to lay it on its side is SUPER annoying. Sometimes the only place in reach is a small ledge. That's the kind of stuff I want in my reviews. If pressed, I'd also point out at least a handful of features you noted in your various PackOut videos that weren't covered in any of the several other videos I watched on them. The fact that the lid stays open. The fact that the edges inside the lid DO keep things from getting mixed up. (I think other reviewers just took that for granted, though not all cases will work that way.) One humble suggestion: what I would really LOVE to see from you is just some "buying guide" videos. "Here is my drill press buying guide. Look for these features: 1) you want a swing of at least x. Let me show you why a swing of less than x will cause you problems. 2) There are a few ways to adjust the drill depth. These methods on some cheaper drill presses will work OK, but if you can get a drill press with an adjustment that works like this, it's SUPER easy to change your drill depth. 3) You will want to be able to adjust the tilt of the platform up to x degrees. Why? Making a cut like this for this type of project. Or like this for this type of project." If you could make videos like that, then even if you don't have a review for a specific tool I want, I can know exactly what to look for. And your individual reviews would still be useful to confirm or deny how well that particular tool meets the criteria you set out, show any features you may have not thought of or something unique that tool does, etc.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Love your comment! Thanks for supporting the channel. This is a good idea on the buying guides, I will definitely try something like that coming up in the new year!

[@allanyang21]

i like the bags and totes they made for packout, but as a guy that runs around a lot in a construction site, they need to make a packout tool pouch. It will be so awesome if they can make the bins from the organizers just insert into the pouch and off you go. And then at the end of the job the toolpouch gets snapped onto the stack.

[@uTubed007]

You should have gotten more than 1.7K likes for your review. I came to your video after watching some other videos and yours helped me settle my choice of organizer. Thank you for having shared your observations

[@allenmay8850]

You convinced me. I checked out your video thinking about going with the Dewalt 2.0. However, your excellent review convinced me to shift toward the Milwaukee. It seems light years ahead and much more usable. I liked how you sometimes kept it in the back seat of your truck and only took out what you needed.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Glad I could help, thanks for checking out the channel:)

[@philhines]

Hey man, I appreciate that clear and honest review! I’m a Commercial apprentice down in New Zealand 🇳🇿 and we have what we call ‘New Zealand Tax’ for being so far away from everywhere else, that even after the exchange rate, tools are still more expensive for us. But in particular the Milwaukee pack out set is about 70% more than the Dewalt Toughsystem 2.0. I went for the DeWalt purely because I couldn’t justify the Milwaukee for the cost vs what I earn… but this video does make me wish I COULD have the Milwaukee a whole lot more…

[@bradleverton3233]

After reading comments the comments, some of the Dewalt fans are in denial. Dewalt makes some great products, but this isn't one of them.

[@charlesward4179]

I liked it. I'm not crazy for either personally for me their easy to steal if rolling behind you, I went out and bought a og toughsystem case holds what I need it to I don't understand the hype over any of this I'd just stick with a back pack.

[@fafafohigh69]

New and improved and still cheap garbage. Milwaukee beats them all for this tool even their cordless vaccuum has cleats to stack and lock on top of your box. Can literally bring everything in the jobsite in one trip even clean-up, all locked together

[@georgebarnett4055]

Just picked up the pack out system no doubt its the best! With all the choices there's no comparison to any other system!

[@Jeziorski7]

Decent review. I agree the Packout is better than the Tough system. Couple points tho, One the organizer is from the 1.0 and its not actually a 2.0 product. Im guessing they will make it for a 2.0 which will be much better. With bins yes the Packout ones feel better being a thicker plastic but with the way the feet go into the bin and having the lid lowered in sections to keep the bins from moving is a good idea but that also means you can't fill the bins up and you need to leave space in all the bins. So you may need to fiddle with them to make the space to close the lid. The Toughsystem 1.0 came out before the Packout. Which means Milwaukee had the time to look at their competitors and make theirs better. I mean wouldn't everyone? With the boxes themselves, of course Milwaukee has way more options the 2.0 just came out and Dewalt hasn't even released all the pieces that they showed during their demo like the trays which I think is a great idea. Ive also heard the 2.0 boxes are lighter which I feel is a great pro for them as the boxes get heavy when you need to lift so many that are loaded up. All in all both great systems and I feel you can't go wrong. Overall I would say the Packout is the top dog but give Dewalt time to get their new line out before you really compare apples to apples

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Decent comment....JK- Thanks a lot for checking out the channel, you make some excellent points!

[@wim0104]

Excellent work, thank you. Now that Milwaukee has the drawers, the dolly/pack-out dual-function, and the pack-out vacuum & light/charger, there is no contest.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

It seems to me like Milwaukee evolves quicker than most of the other companies. I always see them coming out with interesting things.

[@thejoshman4883]

I really like the videos, super helpful, i reference you alot when I make decisions about buying tools.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Glad to be of help!

[@liers99]

I’ve always wondered why DEWALT has Tstak and tough system? Focus on one or the other and make it all work together. Pack out is going to be a hard one to compete with at this point.

[@justinhc123]

As an owner of the Tough System, I’ll admit that Packout is better in terms of stacking. However, I’ve had racking systems for my TS for a long time (maybe 4 years?). I didn’t need to stack them. I wanted a modular wall of boxes in my van and then again in my enclosed trailer. And Dewalt’s TS was wayyyyy ahead of Milwaukee in that department. That’s why I have the Tough System, and it has worked well for me.

[@mikemorgan2733]

Thank you for this review. I'm a 65 yr old Cabinet maker and have been having a blast buying all the new Milwaukee M18 power tools..........sort of an addiction at this point...:)) I find DeWalt to be a good tool for most average Joe users, but Milly has always geared toward the pro.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks for checking out the channel Mike. Dewalt does make some really nice tools... on occasion:) I have a nice Dewalt: portable table saw, 18G nail gun and Laser.

[@aigdallas]

Wow I didn't know dewalt was not professional grade I guess I just learned something...sarcasm intended lol

[@grrinc]

Lol, this should be good a thread.

[@clerklierbrush0869]

I have packout and my coworker has tough system 2.0 I can vouch. Also it is so much easier to get whichever stavked packout boxes you want on and off the truck when they are crammed in the truckbed with all the tools for the day.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Bingo!

[@blordo]

Looks like Toughsystem is in its infancy. Hopefully DeWalt will develop it to become as versatile as Packout.

[@ibrazeau3044]

I can't wait to receive my drawer P/O boxes. IMO packout is the way to go.

[@liberaltears1714]

The main advantage to the DeWalt tough system is the ability to hang the boxes instead of stacking together, where as only the packout tote can be hung on the dolly. There’s also cost per toolbox on the tough system’s side.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Excellent points

[@ayeboah2]

The Milwaukee system can be hung up using their racking kit www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-PACKOUT-Racking-Kit-48-22-8480/315059819?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-VF-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_9_PORTABLE_POWER-MILWAUKEE-NA-NA-PLA_LIA-2231655-WF-SMARTSHOPPING_Q1Q2PLUSUP&cm_mmc=Shopping-VF-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_9_PORTABLE_POWER-MILWAUKEE-NA-NA-PLA_LIA-2231655-WF-SMARTSHOPPING_Q1Q2PLUSUP-71700000082748908-58700007021279142-92700063177701115&gclid=CjwKCAjw3riIBhAwEiwAzD3TiSzZSCGnhcqTPcZBd5hDzhmJuU0rmThteA9r_fm75hidrq5VjYyd6hoCB70QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[@2tier1776]

Was so sad I missed out on the $109 three piece pack out set. Looks amazing

[@nerdymra8252]

I went in with a copy of a receipt from the VCG Construction guys on KZbin. My store let me get three at the "glitch" price. $118 with tax.

[@markman63]

dewalt has half boxes as well, packout is nice but I'm not paying 30% more because the clipping system is slightly better

[@Modelo646]

don't be like that. I like dewalt but you just can't say they are even similar. There are so much + with packout compared to dewalt.

[@roberthuston3200]

I wish I had seen this video earlier. Was just debating with my niece about which system was better. She was convinced the Dewalt was better and more versatile. I'm going to send this video to her. Great video. Thanks

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

The Dewalt 2.0 could be nice in the future when they have more 2.0 cases, but I doubt it would ever be as good as the Packout.

[@justgregnow]

I appreciate you checking out the tough system 2.0. DeWalt has a 2 drawer 2.0 case on amazon, which in my opinion the draws cases make the most sense. I have to admit tho the tough system 2.0 is a huge upgrade from the t-stak, milwaukee pack out takes the cake 👍

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Drawers are definitely the best. I think that Dewalt 2 drawer still has the old latches.

[@christophercrawford2736]

2.0 drawer system hasn’t been announced yet. Most likely coming in 2022

[@garthchorney5804]

Another great review. Fair and balanced. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks uncle G:)

[@rossco_p8713]

Just got myself the milwaukee 3 piece trolly packout set. Brilliant bit of kit. Great review.👍

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Enjoy!

[@christophercrawford2736]

I’ve had toughsystem for a long time. And I recently bought that small parts organizer. I’ve experienced the same thing with the lid, especially the latches being in the way. Love all the rest of my boxes though.

[@rodneyhammon1793]

I never realized they had these systems. The Milwaukee system is very nice, great to keep all your stuff in one spot. Thanks for the info!

[@-nepherim]

As a regular home owner with no real need for most of the stuff here, I appreciate your reviews, and will probably buy most of it anyway :)

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

lol. My Father in Law once told me that I like gear more than I liked doing the actual activity. Very astute man:)

[@-nepherim]

Everyone likes gear more than using the gear. Doing stuff is just a means to more gear :)

[@danvesa1182]

The Dewalt t stack is now the craftsman versa stack! I own that, and I must honestly say that its ok for ur basic homeowner, I used to be a professional cabinet maker /installer and if I still was, pack out 100% I agree with you 100%

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks for commenting!

[@guantai69]

My step-father has had the packout for the past year and loves it. I finally just snagged the rolling base and the crate as an electrician, just to bring tools and material to the job site if I plan to be there for more than one day. The Dewalt Toughsystem 2.0 isn't worth it for the price difference, just cough up the extra dough up front.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Agree. Thanks for checking out the channel:)

[@timnash6870]

TIM from Canada I can tell you right now.. The Milwaukee system is $299.0 Canadian Home Depot regular days..$249.0 if you can get it on sale three-piece Milwaukee Pack out

[@jronmanbuilds]

As someone who has invested around $1000 into Tough System 1.0, I found it to be a great system at the time. As time passes I am finding it harder and harder to justify Tough System when comparing it to Packout (not taking into consideration price). Before the announcements in September, I wouldn't even have considered Packout. Without any solution comparable with Tough System wall racks and drawers, I felt I couldn't make the switch. If I had to start over and money was of no issue then I would most definitely go with Packout since we are getting the e-track shelving and the drawer units.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Great insight here.

[@stevencrisp2474]

The Milwaukee packout is a much more versatile system overall a bit higher in price but well worth it I do believe. So far watching your videos I've been both entertained and informed. Thank you.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks so much for checking out and supporting the channel!

[@Dale37]

My big complaints with the packout are how the organizer boxes aren't the same width as the regular storage boxes. The other complaint is that none of the packouts really do a great job at storing certain items, like my deep cut bandsaw and framing nailer.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Valid points

[@Niwde73d]

Packout is the best. Loving all the home depot deals so far .

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

I’m in Canada and the deals aren’t great. Very jealous of the US deals:) but happy to live up north.

[@NB-Philly]

Great review! I just bought the ToughSystem 2 and thought, how much better could the other system be and totally ignored it since I wanted my cases to match my tools. Well now I’m rethinking that decision :-/ great review!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Sorry about that:)

[@NB-Philly]

@@TheFunnyCarpenter my fault for not watching your video first:-) thanks for the great content!

[@anthonyhamby4622]

After watching this I’m regretting going with the tough system 2.0. I’ll be get the pack out soon.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

lol if you like it then that's all that matters

[@jamesboxold9671]

But if you have dewalt stuff remember the dewalt radio goes onto their stack stuff

[@christophercrawford2736]

As an owner of the tough system 1.0, I’d say this review is handicapped by the fact that he only got to experience two pieces. I have several 1.0 boxes and plan to get some 2.0 soon.

[@deathspawn54]

@@jamesboxold9671 i own all dewalt tools and the toughsystem radio. Took back to toughsystem 2.0 stack because it broke day one. Have had the packout stack for a year no issues.

[@orlandorodriguez1122]

That’s why I love my Milwaukee pack out .. even my 4 year old son can use it (with supervision of course)

[@lcook0825]

I just downloaded and watched all your videos. Enjoyed the all and subscribed. Looking forward to the next one.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks a million Larry! Should have another one out this Friday- looking at the new Milwaukee M18 vacuum and how it compares to my beloved Makita.

[@elir9711]

I started with milwaukee and I still watch many reviews just so I can remember why I don't want to buy the other brands . Besides by watching different reviews I get to see different channels like this one . Its a little slower than other reviewers , thats a good thing especially if I'm hungover 😬 its slow and mellow. 👍

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

lol- this is me trying to be peppy!

[@jakecarter2414]

I'm switching from the tstak drawers to milwaukee packout drawers when they come out in February, they are gonna be awesome. For me I'd rather pull a cart around full of drawers that have my most used tools in them because you can pull the drawer open, get what you need and close the drawer back, you don't have to un stack to get what you need.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

100% yes. Drawers are the way to go.

[@wendyborgen9455]

Thank you for this informative video! I was trying to figure out which system to purchase, by comparing them myself. Your video pointed out many things I couldn’t see by just looking at them and comparing at the Home Depot site. Excellent info!

[@dombombdombomb]

I have both, and agree with you that Packout beats Tough System, but there is one area where Tough System shines. The Tough System side handles are configured to slide onto arms sticking out from a wall or cart. This means you can take out the middle box in a stack of boxes by itself, without fiddling with the boxes above and below. Awesome for a walk-in-van setup. My biggest gripe with Packout is that the boxes that store smaller containers (like the one you opened in this video) have a preset pattern built into the interior lid beveling that you discussed. This means that the compartments cannot be reordered. You're stuck with the original arrangement. I have several of these boxes, and each box must have 2 long compartments in the middle. No mixing and matching.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Great points, thanks for sharing them. Lol-The fact that the Milwaukee parts lid never binds on the cases means the world to me:). Using the TStack bin for years drove me mental!

[@kevinsimonson3327]

Love my Packout. The only thing I liked better on my old Milwakee organizer was the lid. I mix and match and like boxes with all square organizers for screws ect. I put 6 rectangular ones in another box. The Packout lid bows with all square organizers. I was going to live with the bow except it wouldn't interlock. Small complaint but would love to see it changed.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Good point, the only thing I appreciate about the set spots is that with the matching sloped sections on the top of the lids, it helps push the bins into their proper spots when you close the lid.

[@pmorales1931]

Your honest, straight-forward review style is great! Just subbed after watching this video.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks Pedro, I appreciate the support:)

[@larryhack4038]

A great review on the differences between the Pack-Out and the Dewalt 2.0 systems. I have a bunch of Milwaukee M 12’s and Dewalt 20 V system so I was torn between the two but not anymore. I am definitely going to get the Milwaukee Pack-Out system. Thanks for your great review👍🍻

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thank a lot Larry, hopefully it will work well for you!

[@MrStanwyck]

Nice review. I have the Ridgid system, but it’s no Packout. The Tough System 2.0 is a big improvement over the 1.0. Hopefully, Dewalt will make improvements in the 2.0 version of the parts boxes. One thing I do like in the 2.0 is that they offer stackable trays. That helps big time with organizing tools in the bigger tool boxes...

[@MrStanwyck]

@oShane Kasper I agree.... I wish Ridgid would update their system with more offerings. They could also update the rolling box with bigger wheels, wider and taller telescoping handle that won’t pinch you hand when you stack additional boxes beyond the three that come in the set. I think they have the best crate and clear lid parts box.

[@madeinusa1576]

Nice review broski dewalt definitely improved in the 2.0 but my pro master is still stacked floor to ceiling with back out (3 mounting plates) lol. But 2 beers?!? We need more than that!!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Lol maybe more but I’ll edited it down to 2:)

[@evan775]

i cant wait for the packout draws.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

They should have put them out for Christmas. Could have been magic!

[@mdeamicis]

the drawers are going to be half of my daily pack out. Can't decide between the 2 wheel cart or the wheeled box as a foundation though. It will come down to if I can get a framing and roofing nailer into the large box that is not the wheeled box.

[@evan775]

@@mdeamicis i bought the rolling tool box base and i just didnt like it because you lose storage and decided to return it and wait to get the new two wheel dolly. Plus it will allow me to put the draws on the bottom so i dont need to move the draws to get in the box below

[@phillipsofthedriver]

@@evan775 I got the three piece set a couple years ago on sale, it's been great. Even got the Kaizen Kollars so I can remove the handle so it fits nicely in the trunk of a Corolla. But I'm pumped for the two-wheel cart, so I don't need that dang big wheeled box. I might finally actually use that medium size box that came with the original set for larger tools like a circ saw and stuff like cleaning supplies, clamps, squares, etc. Also have the packout workbench top thing on pre-order, instead of the third party versions that don't have a latch. For all the work I do, big red makes something in bare tool that will work with the batteries I have. M12 or M18, my handyman ass is covered. I do want some of the makers to keep their level and cup holders from sticking out at 45 degrees, because I have to roll out through a narrow door, and the base packout just fits with fractions of an inch on either side. So I can't use those things, BUT I WANT TO.

[@OregonGreene]

Great, simple, digestible information. Thanks bro!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks for checking out the channel:)

[@m2kkillshot]

Love the Milwauke packout system as well I have the orignial 3 box stack with the large roller cart bottom box and I absolutely love them I use them all the time. They are so Handy to move my tools around the house or into and out of the garage to get work done I am looking forward to expanding it and adding on a few more boxes. I have also been considering adding on the Radio that clips onto the stack to have tunes when I am working.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

It's such a cool system with all the options!

[@m2kkillshot]

@@TheFunnyCarpenter I have also just found several KZbin channels and Facebook groups that are producing mods and add ons for the Packout stacking systems including ways to mount the boxes in your vehicle or on the wall in your shop and a number of other ingenious add ons.

[@m2kkillshot]

@@TheFunnyCarpenter If you do a search for JakeOfALL on youtube you can find some of the new creations that users of the system are creating.

[@iceman498747]

very informative review my friend, i went with the Milwaukee Packout System thanks to you! Thanks again & keep the videos coming for us do it yourself guys!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@summoning111]

Like Milwaukee but the price.. Not everyone can afford 3 x the price of debong. Nice review bud. Thank you :)

[@TheMillstone99]

Thanks for an in-depth review that really looks beyond the marketing claims and dives into the usability of the products

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks for checking out the channel:)

[@collinmoriarty8131]

The packout is so much more versatile then the Dewalt. Granted the 2.0 just came out but I don't see them catching up to Milwaukee anytime soon. Love the honest reviews keep it going buddy

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks for supporting the channel Collin, really appreciate it!

[@darylboyd7351]

As a cabinet installer I need screw bins for #6 screws 1/2" up to 1" and #8 screws from 1/2" up to 3". Would the low profile packout kits work for these or would I need to get the full height ones?

[@davedave9780]

I'm a huge Dewalt fan..I have alot of money invested .. I cant believe this is the best they can come up with... Milwaukee packout wins hands down..

[@MGJDMNJ]

Great review. As a guy newer to tool etc, it’s really really helpful to have someone give an honest review and not be Wishy washy in an attempt to not offend anyone

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks for checking out the review Grant, glad to be of help!

[@borissalvadormaldonado1962]

I just picked up the Dewalt Toughsystem 2.0 yesterday, and this morning I returned it for the Milwaukee Packout. Paying more for the Milwaukee, but the pack out is a much more versatile system in my opinion.

[@xamphoa]

TL;DR "There's not a chance in hell I'm gonna use this." Great review. Hilarious commentary!

[@jondick1337]

No one ever regrets buying a quality product! I would wait to buy the bottom (largest box) though because they are coming out with a sliding drawer version in early 2021 which, again, looks to be head and shoulders better than the DeWalt system.

[@sawdustadikt979]

I’m just getting into these systems. I got two rigid stacks, one for my drywall gear and one for my painting stuff. The one thing that was important to me, was being able to access something in the middle without unsticking everything. As far as I’ve seen, only DEWALT does that with its hand truck thingy and wall mounting system. Does this feature work well?

[@mosierpat]

Dang it. Shopping right now. Guess I’m going pack out. Great review!

[@TheUcraine]

Nice video. But one thing I like about dewalt if you go with the full 2.0 3 boxes is that they’re super light and I really like that. The packout is nice but it’s heavy compared to dewalt boxes. I don’t need my boxes to survive drops from a roof. I would consider getting packout organizers when I need them, dewalt definitely need to update theirs. It’s one thing I’m considering before I upgrade my tstak because if you live in a shady area like me you have to haul your toolboxes to and from garage each day

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Excellent points! Thanks for checking out the channel.

[@arnonuhm1517]

Thanks for the helpfull comparison. I have got my packout boxes for a year now and I enjoy using it every time. Unfortunatly, Milwaukee products seem to be much more expensive here in Germany than in the US. Nevertheless, in my opinion, it is the best tool storage system.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks for sharing!

[@apa7611]

Try the ridgid pro tool box system. It seem pretty nice for a lot less money. Packout is pretty sweet though

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

I'll check it out

[@jayrob7418]

I just bought the 3 pc packout for $107. Thanks for the review brother.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Boom that’s a hell of a deal! Glad to provide some info! It sucks when you buy a tool you end up hating!

[@miguelsaucedo8789]

The attaching clips on the dewalt toughsystem 2.0 work better when the boxes are loaded.

[@myshots101]

The Walmart hart system is smaller than both of these but very similar to the milwaukee. I'm really liking mine.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Interesting

[@bramir3]

even a child can see that milwaukee packout is better than the dewalt , another great review

[@azael831]

Children are the best at identifying an intuitive products

[@georgedavall9449]

Your a childs

[@cashisgreen6383]

Then again child doesn’t know affordability

[@johngomez5523]

Kids are brutally honest. They go up to fat people point and say "your fat", and the fat person is just like "he calls it like he sees it" lol.

[@loucifer323]

What that little bevel on top it holds a lot water and dirt and when you fill those boxes with a lot of tools they are to separate,oh I forgot to mention that when you drop it off the back of your pickup those latches on the Milwaukee pop open very easy and that little black plastic that keeps it locked breaks

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Did you see that video on VCG? Vince was throwing the Packout organizer bin off the roof. Nothin. Could those latches pop open... perhaps. Could I be annoyed 70 times a day opening up those Dewalt latches... 100% yes.

[@66meikou]

As you run systainers, is the Milwaukee system is better for you? I would imagine it to be hard to retrofit festool stuff in them unless your purely talking about misc tool storage. I like the chunkyness of the Milwaukee but you end up using two different systems. I wish the "tanos" boxes were a bit less brittle and more meaty.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Without the packet drawers I still prefer the Tanos, but when the drawers come it will be pretty close. I like that the Tanos are easier to cary around in a big stack. In a perfect world the Tanous would be a hare more rugged and hold there shape a little better. Thanks for checking out the channel!

[@mushieslushie]

I would really like to see Milwaukee make more half sized boxes. Possibly a smaller toolbox type one would be nice. I think that is a strength in their system is that someone that doesn't need such large bins can just buy the half sizes ones. A half size toolbox and a few of the small organizers would be a nice little kit.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

This is a tremendous point! I’m working on a future review comparing packout to Systainers, and the one main drawback of the packout system is it can be fairly clunky and awkward in some cases to carry it around.

[@karimjessani4956]

Really great review. Honestly helped me compare the 2 systems really well. It was great detail.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks a lot, glad to offer up some useful info!

[@Zack16Fair]

The best thing about the tough system is the drawer they have. I got the 2 drawer tough system box and the top on all my bits and driver bits go in ther need the bottom one I keep all my slim batteries.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Drawers are definitely the way to go when possible!

[@wim0104]

What about making your own 1/4" plywood dividers for the toolboxes? Do both systems support that?

[@toddmclean7570]

I am looking at purchasing 1 of these systems, great video keep them coming

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks for checking out the channel!

[@JJ-lu6mg]

I never used the bottom boxes on both systems like you said when going into a customers house it’s a lot easier to just grab what you need and carry them in. As far as comparing the two systems the Milwaukee just designed a better system, I originally bought the Dewalt because it came out first, but now I have both which I’m definitely going to be selling the Tough System. Just the amount of options that the Packout offers I really don’t see many people buying the Dewalt system unless they are brand loyal and even then I have seen guys with all Dewalt tools that use the Packout.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

excellent points

[@jamesnewsom5899]

Packout all the way. I have my tool trailer set up with two rolling sets. And then the mounting back boards all the way around for the parts bins. I told trailer has a door/ramp. It works awesome

[@keithy.1179]

Awesome review! Very very informative. I have a ton of T stack stuff on my Christmas list this year and I'm considering taking it off now lol

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Sorry mate:). It's not terrible for the price that's for sure.

[@dorothyurbanavage2079]

Thank you for this information. I was shopping at both HD and Lowe’s and almost bought the DeWalt but decided not to because it didn’t wow me. Now I will definitely look at the Milwaukee again. Seems to be worth every penny.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

I would definitely check it out and play around with it. Check into which cases would work best. Milwaukee is also coming out with drawers sometime in earlish 2021. Drawers are often times a great option for these types of systems.

[@free2chasehappy]

Milwaukee connection is definitely better than dewalt, while dewalt is more space efficient. Milwaukee definitely thought this one through. I hope they will keep dewalt innovating and be competitive.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Excellent points.