Check out me towing 8,000lbs through the Appalachian mountains with this BEAST - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpPGp4KeiLh6o80
@hankclingingsmith87073 ай бұрын
How much GM pay you for this commercial Way more than 12 engines.
@elviswilliams57642 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures hard for me to believe a 4 cylinder can do that. Maybe I am out of touch with reality
@davidmckibbin44402 ай бұрын
come back when you have 300000 miles on it and ill be impressed, and we know thats not going to happen.
@EgGu-l9yАй бұрын
@@davidmckibbin4440 Exactly 100,000 miles is not a lot. When the truck still runs well with 300,000 miles then its worth the money.
@davidmckibbin4440Ай бұрын
@@EgGu-l9y i agree with you 100%
@fbodmother2 ай бұрын
I have this same truck and engine. 28000 miles in 14 months pulling a 6000 lbs. RV. Averaging over 16 mpg with no issues. Very satisfied.
@konic40Ай бұрын
EPA said 20 mpg highway how are you getting 16 pulling an RV?
@dannyt1705Ай бұрын
I get better gas mileage with a 5.3 V8 L O L
@johnlittle671115 күн бұрын
@@dannyt1705 I drive a 23 single cab 8’bed 5.3 company truck. I own a 24 sierra regular cab 6.5 2.7. The 5.3 gets 15 mph the 2.7 gets 21 mph.
@dannyt170514 күн бұрын
@@johnlittle6711 i have 2017 crew cab short bad ltz z71 5.3 . Drove from WA to UT with AFM enabled -- 24 mpg hgwy non stop for 900 miles . Thats the best i got
@BlackWarriorLures4 ай бұрын
If they had build a straight six version of this engine, they would have build the greatest offroad engine ever.
@Tiovergudo4 ай бұрын
The 3.0 duramax is really good
@BlackWarriorLures4 ай бұрын
@@Tiovergudo I guess is with the straight six they would't have needed all that extra counterbalance since inline sixes are naturally balanced.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
From what I read. There was supposed to be an inline 6 engine and an inline 4. Turns out they only built the 4 cylinder.
@mitchharris974 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures can you imagine the power numbers if it scaled like this engine as far as power per cylinder when I did the math it was like 640 tq and 460hp. Don’t know that it would scale like that but it would be a great motor
@joshuahedrick4 ай бұрын
@mitchharris97 It does scale like that. Given the displacement it would be a 4.1 liter I-6 and would easily best the 3.0 Ram Hurricane just based on displacement. It would need to change the turbo though as I dont think the dual volute turbo would work on a 6, they would prolly have to go twin turbo but i could be wrong.
@VortexArcade4 ай бұрын
I bought the Turbo Max in a Colorado, despite being a little bit reluctant to buy turbo 4 vs a V6. I'm only a year in, but the power of this thing has won me over. It makes effortless torque, and is a blast in a mid size truck. It truly feels like a Diesel.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
I was thinking these engines in a light midsize truck probably feel lightning fast
@jamesgullo82404 ай бұрын
@VortexArcade Don't get me wrong, I wish you well with your truck. But my neighbor has 370,000 on his 5.3 L Chevy pickup.
@VortexArcade4 ай бұрын
@@jamesgullo8240 I just want 150k out of it. I don't want to drive something for 20 years. If I can pay it off, drive it for another five and sell it for a few grand I'll be happy. First turbocharged vehicle I've owned, I always lean toward simple. I sat in the Frontier and Colorado back to back, everything about the Frontier feels like it's 10 years old -not just the engine!
@ram895724 ай бұрын
@@jamesgullo8240 Which 5.3 is the question. Because that is pure luck on AFM/DFM engines. Pretty that crap yes they were solid engines
@ericj8104 ай бұрын
I have the 22 refresh silverado with the HO version. For a full size truck it does as well as the 350 did. I have friends who are over 150k on milage and tow heavy alot with theirs and no issues with trans or the engine. The way the oil pump is setup i been hearing carbon is not been a issue with these like people think on higher milage. The 8 speed does well to.
@JoshDurston4 ай бұрын
As a 2.7 ecoboost owner, I do admire the simplicity of 4 cylinders and 1 turbo if it gets the job done.
@ALMX5DP4 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
The single turbo does certainly make things a little simpler.
@TheHighway-mf3sl4 ай бұрын
It doesn’t…
@mitchharris974 ай бұрын
@@TheHighway-mf3sl how does it not please share able to tow 9500 lbs 2200 lbs payload and 24 mpg
@joshuahedrick4 ай бұрын
Respect to the Nano 2.7. Also Respect to GM for making this the base engine while Ford has the anemic 3.3 n/a. Ford targeted the 5.3 with the 2.7 and the 6.2 with the 3.5 and IMHO Ford came out on top. GM doing their wierd old GM type thing dumped all the development money into their base engine which ironically completes well against Fords mainstream offerings.
@fscottgray97844 ай бұрын
I have had my 2.7 Turbomax for 2 years. No problems at all and I love the power curve in this engine. It pulls 10,000 lb. Trailer with no problem.
@Cloud300004 ай бұрын
Watch the temps when towing, as 10k lbs is going to stress that engine over time.
@fscottgray97844 ай бұрын
@@Cloud30000 I tow short durations of a large dump trailer loaded with a small tractor. The torque of this little engine is impressive.
@Oneshawdog894 ай бұрын
Keep pulling 10 k lbs, she’s gonna blow up! It’s a 4 banger!!! Don’t let that torque fool you😂😂😂😂
@fscottgray97844 ай бұрын
@@Oneshawdog89 I will keep towing and enjoy the 100,000 mile warranty I have.
@bradhaines31424 ай бұрын
@@Oneshawdog89 towing is harder on the transmission than anything else. sure the engine has to try a bit harder, but the damage almost always ends up on the transmission, especially with any kind of hills
@ML-lg4ky4 ай бұрын
My company has several in our service fleet with well over 200k on them already. Been great.
@moyacosta62234 ай бұрын
Do vehicles in your fleet regulary hit 200k or are these just that robust?
@ericj8104 ай бұрын
@moyacosta6223 these are robust. I've seen it for myself. Even full time towing 7400lbs behind it.
@ML-lg4ky4 ай бұрын
@@moyacosta6223 ford V8’s have lasted that long. Ecoboost not so much
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
put some miles on those things lol I like it
@GarageWorx4 ай бұрын
Good news.
@justinschnepf4 ай бұрын
As an engineer, I i applaud GM for craming so much technology in such a small form factor while maintaining an extremely reliable product. I'm a diesel guy and previously owned the 3.0 Duramax and currently own the L5P Duramax... But if i were to ever leave the Duramax engine for a gasser, I would 100% consider this one.
@Chevytech19774 ай бұрын
I know at the dealer, we haven't seen too many major issues with these. They are normally noisy though
@Cloud300004 ай бұрын
Build a gas engine to run like a diesel, and it’s gonna sound like a diesel.
@danielbonner83094 ай бұрын
It is a ticky engine. To me it sounds like an older Honda VTEC. Maybe it has to do with the overhead cams.
@Heatherder4 ай бұрын
@@danielbonner8309 I have a 13 year old GM 2.0T DOHC I4 engine (LHU). It sounds like it ticking and rattling like crazy at idle, and it has for the last 150,000 miles. It makes almost no glitter and is powerful, great engine! It's just the nature of DI engines with aluminum blocks.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
very interesting, of the 4 GM engines in the 1500's which would you say has the most issues ?
@greiner74143 ай бұрын
Probably sounds like VW's 2.0T, it has a CGI block and sounds just like a diesel
@jasoncheeseman81544 ай бұрын
As a truck owner ( hemi ram) and mechanic I’m rooting for this engine because I know most people don’t need 400 hp and 400 torque .. I absolutely 100% agree with you on the split port direct injection
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
I think for the average person who does not tow, or tow often. Something like this is very reasonable.
@jasonbrushett20054 ай бұрын
@TheGettyAdventures Alex what's wrong with towing with engine? For the average person towing a travel trailer or snowmobile trailer this would be fine.
@chris67434 ай бұрын
Traded my RAM in for a Sierra with this engine 3 weeks ago haven't had one regret other than couldn't get a crew cab long bed with the options I wanted. RAM priced me out of the market on trucks and the market value was dropping like a stone. I'm getting 23MPG on the highway on the 2 road trips I've taken and around 17.5 in the city I don't miss my HEMI at all. Tows my side by side better than my RAM did which shocked me.
@mitchharris974 ай бұрын
@@chris6743 I traded my ram in for a Silverado with this engine haven’t looked back tows great drives great getting 23.7-24 mpg highway and running around town see 19.5 mpg vs the 15-18 I was seeing with the hemi
@grizz4744 ай бұрын
That's why the Ford 2.7 ecoboost is such a great engine, 325 hp 400tq. It's a great engine for the majority that doesn't need to tow a 10K trailer frequently, yet can still do it now and then without worry. I have the 3.5 ecoboost, it tows anything that a half ton should be towing effortlessly with power and torque to spare.
@jefftrimm78064 ай бұрын
Tip of the hat to GM for a stout torquey motor that has been reliable. I didn’t realize it’s been out for 7 years now.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
Crazy how fast it’s been. Granted the 7th year will be with the 2025 models
@dannyt17054 ай бұрын
There is a reason for not knowing this engine been around for 7 yrs . Because no one wants a 4 cyl with AFM that deactivates 2 cyl LMAO
@iGame2A3 ай бұрын
@@dannyt1705You wouldn't think there wouldnt be a need to deactivate cylinders on a 4 banger lol ... That's going to fail like all of their previous attempts at cylinder deactivation.
@dannyt17053 ай бұрын
@@iGame2A Right . And on top of that this 4 cyl engine pulls 8000 lbs while Ford 3.7 v6 gas engine thats in fleet work trucks pulls 9000 lbs = at half the price . No body wants these things , literally . Ive been a GM guy all my life and this engine is a joke .
@MrCountrycuzАй бұрын
@@dannyt1705Toyota rules!
@joshuahedrick4 ай бұрын
Props to the re-review. Much more fair then last years Alex!
@greathey12344 ай бұрын
It seems GMs 4 turbo is more reliable that Toyotas 6. Who'd have believed it?
@freedomisntfree_444 ай бұрын
Nah gm will brush things under the rug and won’t fix anything. Toyta will fix it and make it right
@steven50964 ай бұрын
@@freedomisntfree_44so Toyota is going to recall all 2024 Tundras/Tacomas and get them all a new engine ?
@dawsongranger49404 ай бұрын
@@freedomisntfree_44is that why Toyota dealers are refusing to trade in tundras right now and don’t want to fix them? Toyota knew about the issue for YEARS and did nothing. There’s also a lawsuit over the rav4s coolant bypass valve and Toyota refusing to fix it. They have a long way to go on the Tacomas with all the issues that’s been having. Colorados and rangers are looking mighty good right now
@danielbonner83094 ай бұрын
@@freedomisntfree_44I disagree.They put out a service bulletin for the cracked block and are fixing them. Toyota is a mess right now with their two trucks. As of now there is no fix for the debris chewing up bearings in the Tundras Turbo 6. They were forced to issue the recall cause it was a safety concern
@freedomisntfree_444 ай бұрын
@@steven5096 must be too young to remember the 5.7 dropping valve springs, secondary air pump problems, throttle sticking. All fixed by 2010. I have a 13 5.7 with a quarter million miles without a problem. Toyota fixes their shit 👍 also to young to remember the 3.0 v6 Toyota had….
@slocavky4 ай бұрын
That engine is super surprising. My brother in law has one. I have a 2021 3.0 Duramax and man his feels so much like the diesel its unreal. Super impressive.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
Both those engine do have a similar feel. But I do love that 3L duramax
@edhcb93594 ай бұрын
Until it comes time to actually use it as a truck.
@sabastian48584 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventuresthe baby Duramax is another trash motor with designed obsolescence built in.
@Rich-xq3uv4 ай бұрын
@@edhcb9359 You don't use 1/2 tons to do truck stuff....that's for 3/4 tons and 1 ton duelleys.
@edhcb93594 ай бұрын
@@Rich-xq3uv You might not, but most people can and do.
@larry6484 ай бұрын
Well, I have a 2020 Silverado Custom with the 310/348 version of this engine. I haven’t had any issues. Tows my 21 foot boat just fine, rides nice, dives good down in East Tennessee hills. I will say one thing, great gas mileage, but she sucks gas towing. I can live with it, she’s making power.
@muznick4 ай бұрын
I've owned a 2023 Silverado for a year now and am quite happy with the 2.7. On a few random occasions, it had like 5 seconds of slight vibration after startup, but no driveability issues so far. There is plenty of power, especially the torque down low is awesome. Wish it sounded like a V-8, but you can't have everything. It makes for a great work truck and is actually very quiet while cruising.
@jeremsgarage4 ай бұрын
Great video! People love to hate on this engine but it just keeps working!
@gncc6003 ай бұрын
Has been out very long Jimmy. GM's track record is poor.
@warringwarthog4 ай бұрын
why am I getting the late 70's early 80's vibes small motors in oversized vehicles
@thedirtybubble96134 ай бұрын
Completely different engine technology today.
@GarageWorx4 ай бұрын
Why do we need AFM on a 4cyl? Just keep em all rockin😊
@0myАй бұрын
It's great for camping. Can leave it idling for days. It also actively shuts down cooling as needed, so it can idel very low with 2 cylinders without getting too cold.
@PaulLowe-c4n2 ай бұрын
I bought a 2024 Colorado 2wd with this engine package. My wife told me that she didn't want a 4 cylinder engine in a truck. I drove it on a test drive and couldn't believe how well it performed. My wife was very skeptical and she drove it and I told her to get on it and before she could even touch the Brake we were doing 75. She just quietly drove it back to the dealer and told the salesman it was sold. The LT package was really nice and for 34,000 dollars it is a bargain compared to Ford and Dodge. My best mileage has been 30 mpg on the highway and I couldn't be happier.
@bo-dine79714 ай бұрын
This is one of the coolest i4s ever, imo. I've always respected any team who has the guts to make off-set cylinders as it's simply a superior method but requires a lot of engineering to iron-out the follow-up issues.
@parkerb55484 ай бұрын
Bought my 24 in January and I absolutely love this truck. I have been really impressed with this 2.7 4 cylinder. Plenty of power, especially in sport mode, and I actually average about 23-25 MPG on the interstate. The turbo also has that diesel whistle sound to it. 5k miles with no issues. So glad I chose this engine, all the issues seem to be with the V8 engines.
@alp37812 ай бұрын
Which trim level did you take?
@parkerb55482 ай бұрын
LT crew cab 4x4
@davidortiz1734 ай бұрын
Afm is a deal breaker for me period! Also, I believe a 4 cylinder engine doesn't need it!
@VortexArcade4 ай бұрын
After a year, I have *never* seen the ECO light on mine come on. I'm not a leadfoot either, I think it just activates under a very minimal set of circumstances.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
It is odd that a 4 cylinder engine would need to run on only 2 cylinders I agree.
@Cloud300004 ай бұрын
It seems like they designed a 6\8 cylinder variant, then kept the cylinder deactivation tech when they reduced it to 4 cylinders. I can’t imagine the gas savings is even measurable at the pump.
@Dis-Emboweled4 ай бұрын
This AFM is a copy of Honda's VTech. And Honda's VTech works just fine. GM just took it up a notch and added a 3rd profile for the cylinder deactivation. Keep the oil checked and changed and there won't ever be a problem
@davidortiz1734 ай бұрын
That may be true, but you are still going to have uneven loading, and thus, uneven wear between cylinders!
@agentstevehaines91644 ай бұрын
I personally think all 4 of GM'S engine options are excellent and offer great diversity depending on what customers are looking for. I decided on the LZ0 when i got my 23 LTZ and i couldn't be happier with it so far!!👍
@juanbarajas53764 ай бұрын
I bought my 2.7 turbo in February 2024 and am happy with it. I tow a small 21’ wolf pup trailer and it does really good. One thing I noticed however is if towing up a steep incline, it doesn’t like to be pushed. It’s more happy in the 2700-3200 rpm range. If I floor it, the engine just revs up and slowly accelerates, whereas if I accelerate gently and let it downshift it will accelerate better
@ericj8104 ай бұрын
Ya if you punch it all a sudden you will loose the power band. Ecu will kick back at ya a lil. Seems its just programmed that way? Ease on the 2800 or 3400 rpm it wont do that. Torque curve changes over 4400 rpm.
@ews3604 ай бұрын
430 lb-ft torque @ 3,000 rpm's That's where you want to be.
@Oddman19804 ай бұрын
I had a little truck with a weirdly large four cylinder (2.9L) and I really enjoyed it's "industrial" sound. I bet this engine makes a similar sound.
@dawsongranger49404 ай бұрын
With an exhaust it sounds like a turbo honda
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
Honestly the turbo whistle is the most notable sound in my opinion
@TheRandalHandle4 ай бұрын
I'm still annoyed that they stopped production on the LWN 2.8 L Duramax. It was already the most fuel efficient truck by quite a bit and they could have paired it with the 10-speed automatic to make it even better.
@edwardbowles8613Ай бұрын
Love mine
@edwardpate61284 ай бұрын
Time will tell, but I'm a 3.0 Duramax Diesel owner and I absolutely love it!
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
I gotta get a 3L back on the channel. I love that engine.
@TimHancock-h6e4 ай бұрын
I got the LM2. I love it. Couple issues long crank, intermittent nox2 efficiency, and just recent oil consumption. 1 quart per 1k miles. Keep an eye on your oil.
@454budman4 ай бұрын
@@TimHancock-h6e there is a tsb about oil consumption on that motor and the intake cracking. Probably the cause of everything else
@mini2nut673 ай бұрын
Timing chain is on the back of the engine near firewall. It’s around $2k to have it replaced.
@jakemedley74232 ай бұрын
@@TimHancock-h6ethere’s a tsb for the intake cracking causing oil intrusion to the air charge and causing early regen which might be causing the nox issue and thus the long crank because it takes more compression to ignite oil vs diesel…
@gopnick4 ай бұрын
I had one and loved it. Didn’t like the old 8-speed transmission but I hear they updated it. Power delivery on the 2.7L is shockingly similar to my 3.0 Duramax.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
I agree. I mention that when I’m towing with it. A little odd they don’t just buckle it up with the flagship 10 speed. But maybe eventually.
@mitchharris974 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures I wonder if it’s cause they wanted the longer gears for the turbocharger?
@CharlesCurran-m9p4 ай бұрын
I don’t know about the durability of these highly stressed small turbos but I recently drove a F-150 2.7L and it drove like a V8 and got 31mpg. I was impressed.
@abiker214 ай бұрын
I rented one and it blew me away with the acceleration.
@johnk62064 ай бұрын
31?! I had a 22 f150 2.7, and it struggled to see 19 on the highway. Fair power, but bad milage.
@CharlesCurran-m9p4 ай бұрын
@@johnk6206 That’s strange. The one I was driving was empty and it was almost all highway. The turbo seldom kicked in, maybe that’s why I saw that mileage. I wouldn’t have believed it either if I hadn’t seen it.
@RFRUS4 ай бұрын
@@CharlesCurran-m9p Curious how you know the turbo is kicked in; it is dual volet turbo and you shouldn't even here it at low RPMs.
@CharlesCurran-m9p4 ай бұрын
@@RFRUS I didn’t really, I was driving very conservatively.
@danielbonner83094 ай бұрын
Ive had the 2.7 turbo for about a year now and love it. Im not concerned about the direct injection carbon buildup at all. I think people make it a bigger deal that it is. My previous truck had the 4.3 v6 with direct injection. I saw the valves at 120k and they really weren't that bad. If anything youd need to get them walnut blasted once in the life of the truck. Not a big deal
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
Fair enough, I guess for me it’s just something completely preventable.
@johnk62064 ай бұрын
A few horror stories went a LONG way on the internet. Overall I don't think coking is near the problem it was made out to be.
@davidmckibbin44402 ай бұрын
sounds like you dont keep your trucks very long, why did you see the valves at 120000 miles, everything is a big deal on todays new cars.
@danielbonner83092 ай бұрын
@@davidmckibbin4440 Had them scoped when the spark plugs were changed. I was thinking I should have the valves cleaned too cause everyone says how bad the carbon build up is. It wasn't. I kept that truck for 9 years, over 130,000 miles. Bought it new in 15. I guess it's how you look at things. Everything can be a big deal to you or "whatever" life goes on.
@davidmckibbin44402 ай бұрын
@@danielbonner8309 i would have kept it another 130000 miles
@gfsquall4 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 2023 chevy silverado 1500 with the 2.7. Almost 50k miles of pulling a 5klb trailer. Uses about 1.5 quarts of oil in 5k mile oil change interval. It doesn’t burn it, it loses the oil somewhere in the turbo system I think. These trucks in the WT trim are freakin sweet and super easy to work on. I like Fords for the luxury trims. But I think for smaller work trucks, the 2.7 GM engine is the best option.
@Montana2704 ай бұрын
Does it read low on the dipstick when it's 1.5q low out of 6? Mines got 13k is all, and doesn't really seem to burn more than like maybe a pint between the 3.5k intervals I've been doing.
@scottpearce746627 күн бұрын
Increase oil change intervals to 3k miles and always a premium full synthetic like Mobile1 with that turbo.
@AKS-74U4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing more of this light duty content, especially the Maverick content
@acdc55794 ай бұрын
My 2023 2.7 Turbomax Silverado with 15,000 miles has had zero issues and really has impressed me.
@johnwhitneykokalis99903 ай бұрын
I have been driving a 2023 Canyon with the turbo max since march of 23 and have had zero issues and love my Canyon Elevation 2wd that I ordered with about 4k in options. After my GM discount and ttl, drove off the Dealers lot for 41,500. Best truck ever.
@davidholcomb99614 ай бұрын
I have seen quite a few of your reviews and the are well thought out. As GM was first rolling out the TurboMax engine i saw the engineering video and i was quite impressed with the structure and the rigorous testing. Now that GM has boosted the warranty to 100,000 miles and seeing this review, i am very impressed. I would love to have that engine in my 2002 Tacoma regular cab 4x4! It would probably break my truck to pieces but that would be a blast for a little while though! After all, my engine is also a 2.7!
@mikesamson19304 ай бұрын
I had the 2000 Tacoma with the V6. It was lacking power (5200 ft altitude), so the 2.7 must have been tough. The GM 2.7 is night and day difference. You can actually merge onto the highway with ease. It will pull a hill on my commute at 1800 rpm in top gear (75 mph), where the Toyota needed to downshift to maintain speed (5-speed manual). Definitely a torquey motor down low, but spins up to redline just fine. It does get a bit noisy as the rpm get above 3500.
@davidmckibbin44402 ай бұрын
@@mikesamson1930 the 2000 tacoma will still be on the road when the 2.7 is in the junk yard with the new tacoma and tundra/
@mikesamson19302 ай бұрын
@@davidmckibbin4440 That's pretty hard to predict. The frame on the Toyota was rusted out pretty bad when I sold it. Drivetrain was fine @ 198,000 miles. If the frame lasts another 10 years, I would be surprised. I suspect the Colorado will still be on the road in 10 years. Even if it is not, I would not go back to the 2000 generation Tacoma. It was a good truck, but it was loud inside, didn't have power and didn't drive very well. I am sure Tacoma's have come a long way since then though.
@nross334 ай бұрын
I love mine. My lease was up on my 22 Silverado with the 5.3 and after driving one of these I was sold. Love the turbo
@richiep.33664 ай бұрын
Nice job of breaking it down for someone who is not mechanically inclined. The channel should be renamed to “The Getty Professor “. Well done.
@mattl1758Ай бұрын
I’m looking at a new one right now. I own a V6 now love the truck but you can tell the lack of power. I’m hesitant but your video has reassured me Thank you
@monoped_adventuresАй бұрын
I drive a Colorado with the L3B TurboMax for work. It's a great little truck. Great power delivery, with the engine putting out loads of torque at low RPM.
@RK-ds7im4 ай бұрын
Happy owner of a Silverado 1500 with 2.7T. The truck easily gets 10L/100km in highway driving. Has a nice smooth turbo whistling noise while driving.
@geoffmooregm2 ай бұрын
What do you get combined? I am getting 13.8-14.0 l/100k according to the trip computer. I do mostly highway driving with a bit of city driving every day. I always use cruise control when I can on the highway. I have a canopy, bed slide and a bunch of tools in the back so it has a descent load at all times.
@Dr.Westside3 ай бұрын
I have a 24 and I just recorded 26.1 mph on 100 mile highway run at 70 mph . As far as the cylinder deactivation if I put it in tow haul it doesn't come on . When I'm just driving around town with the cruise control on at 45 or under is about the only time it comes on .
@justinsalazar90704 ай бұрын
Got my 23 Silverado and she’s going strong !!!!!! For what I need it’s a damn good pickup.
@CoinKing134 ай бұрын
I have a 2024 LT with this motor and my last truck was a 2021 Trail Boss with the 5.3 v8. The 5.3 performed much better. The Turbo Max isn’t terrible, and is probably fine for guys who don’t really haul anything. I think it’s a little under powered and doesn’t haul or tow as well as advertised, it’s also a little sluggish on the expressway but moves well once it’s going. Gas Milage is actually much worse than the 5.3.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
A lot of people mention the gas mileage not being great which I find interesting. And I agree with my trailer the engine just felt a little overhelmed
@Cloud300004 ай бұрын
What are you towing? It’s designed for lighter loads than the v8, so it will feel underpowered and drink more gas if you tow at the top end of the v8 ratings. The 3.0 Duramax is the better engine for efficiently towing heavier loads.
@thewireman1344 ай бұрын
The 2.7 smokes the 5.3, what are you guys smoking for real. I have had both, no competition. Look at the dyno sheets and torque curve. This will back up my claim. The 2.7 dosent work nearly as hard as the 5.3 also
@ms14062 ай бұрын
Maybe it has more to do with the 8 speec then the actual motor i think this motor is great for the Colorado
@Backyard_KLX3 ай бұрын
Ive had my 2023 GMC Sierra turbomax for almost a year now, approaching 8k miles, maybe getting close to 22-23mpg, I don’t tow anythin, just have this for the family, and throwing kayaks and bikes in the bed… very happy with it so far.
@nintendoatarikiller4 ай бұрын
I almost forgot this engine was in the Cadillac CT4. A powerful motor meant for truck applications in a tiny sedan sounds like a blast lol
@thedirtybubble96134 ай бұрын
It's got a 8 speed tranny too the Caddy will haul butt.
@mannyb80564 ай бұрын
Toyota has had the dual port and direct injection system (D4S) since 2006 starting with the Lexus IS350.
@Montana2704 ай бұрын
Ive been hammering on my turbomax colorado for over a year now... 13k miles in with no issues other than its pretty loud and makes a lot of noise, but honestly it eats
@BikerJim744 ай бұрын
My aunt bought one and drives cross country. It's been solid. I'm pretty impressed
@wisco12254 ай бұрын
2.7 is the underdog, and i kind of like it.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
Underdog is a great name for it.
@TADD2922 күн бұрын
24’ Zr2 Colorado. Love it. Things a rocket for mid size pickup.
@petergozinya6122Ай бұрын
The 100K mile engine warranty only applies to fleet vehicles according to Chevy's web site.
@highball73474 ай бұрын
Referring to the torque, I regularly break traction with a 5,500 lb camper at stop lights on accident. From a dead stop this engine produces amazing torque.
@coyleatkinson4 ай бұрын
i have a 23 Colorado. 2.7 turbo plus motor, one year later 19K later, fuel milage got better after 12K miles, great motor for a mid size truck, now getting 22 mpg in suburbandriving,25 mpg in highway driving, LOVE the power of the 2.7 haven't tested the 7700 pound tow rating yet
@thunderbolt53544 ай бұрын
Turdbo 2.7 sounds worse than a 1992 Honda Civic !
@BradyReading4 ай бұрын
Similar boat. 23 Colorado with the HO tune. 25k miles so far with 10% of that towing around 6k lbs. I’ve got a rack and tent over the bed and I live in a hilly high elevation area but it still gets combined 18.5 mpg. It tows great, plenty of power. Honestly the rear suspension felt like the weak point at 6k lbs, more squat than I’d like. The engine didn’t even care and happily sat at 2300 rpm on the highway with that load in tow.
@metalgeniusjoe56023 ай бұрын
I have a 2021. Incredible truck all around. For the most part, the only people I've been really seeing with issues are the people using the 4 cylinder for heavy hauling. I love my Silverado.
@MattChat564 ай бұрын
I wish GM would add two cylinders to this engine. GM, PLEASE BRING BACK THE STRAIGHT 6 ENGINES. I have the 3.0L LZO duramax and just love how smooth it is. Pulls great as well. Would love to have a gas version.
@PatriotsOfWashАй бұрын
I’m thinking about trading my truck in for one of these. I came here to learn about it and I love the horse power. 9500 lb towing. I like it. Over 4 inch heads, dual overhead shaft.
@HifiVega3 ай бұрын
I’ve been doing some research before I purchase a new truck this year. I found your videos during this research and wanted to say I greatly appreciate the content and you earned my sub even tho I don’t buy new vehicles but every 10 years lol
@paulmartin82124 ай бұрын
I have 47k on mine. Very impressive. I don't tow often but pulling about 5000lbs for me is no problem. Again, quite surprised at performance and economy.
@JJJ5.74 ай бұрын
No I wouldn't consider buying one but I'm watching because I enjoy your reviews.
@michiganman43984 ай бұрын
I learned my lesson with GM when the DOD failed in my Sierra destroying the engine. I understand this doesn’t have those but what it does have looks even more fragile. No thanks
@Cloud300004 ай бұрын
Only engine left without that scary tech is the Nissan, so choices are limited
@dhmig882 ай бұрын
People shake their heads in protest against this engine but it has great specs and I haven’t heard of any major issues with them. Maintain it and don’t Dog it out and it should last for awhile.
@crt58664 ай бұрын
I love the "Certified Dirty Idle" California sticker on the tool box" XD
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
Haha thought a couple folks would appreciate that
@SwanBrewer-c6o4 ай бұрын
Alot of 4cylinder turbo hate going on be it chey,ford toyota fact is ive been a chrysler tech for 38 years these engines are the future thats a fact,they are man made and they can break,service them they will last.
@moriver14 ай бұрын
Watching all your videos over time on this is telling. I am a diesel mechanic turned service manager turned facility manager. I think Chevrolet might have a hit with this one. I love my 2.7!
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
I mean like I mentioned its not a 350 small block. But for all the tech smashed into it, they are holding very well. something I did not see coming. I thought this was going to be an absolute grenade for GM. similar to the 3L EcoDiesel from RAM lol.
@frenchonion45954 ай бұрын
This engine has been out for 7 years all ready ?!
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
in 2025 model year truck - yes lol
@richstevens2964 ай бұрын
How do you feel about the longevity being its only direct injection? Carbon issues? That’s my biggest concern.
@davestamand14024 ай бұрын
i have a 2023 custom exactly like this one and im really amazed by the performance of the engine. My only real complaint with this engine is the fuel economy. It's not horrendous for a full sized truck but for a 4 cylinder its absurd. Still love my truck tho.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
It’s interesting, a ton of owners say the same thing about the MPG. I did a fuel economy loop the day and honestly it killed it. But when I reviews the first 2.7 my fuel economy was terrible lol so idk.
@jasonbrushett20054 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Alex it was terrible because it was winter and winter blend fuels are known for poor economy!
@FINfinFINfinFINfin4 ай бұрын
What mpg are you getting?
@robertmeese65452 ай бұрын
I have a 2004 F150 4.6 with 215000 plus miles soon as the f150 done I'm buying the GMC 2.7 TURBOMAX for my next work truck.
@davidlefranc62404 ай бұрын
Imagine a version of this with those new electric engines mounted in the transmission giving this thing 80 more horse and 100 ft of torque this thing would become really fuel efficient and pretty powerful.
@davidmckibbin44402 ай бұрын
until it has problems, all this new tech.is very costly and even more to keep it working, new trucks are a joke.
@62jape4 ай бұрын
It’s innovative, powerful, and reliable. Got to admire an engine that can be all that.
@aidanpayan69194 ай бұрын
I bought a Sierra 2.7 a month ago and I have 1100 miles on it so far. As of now I have 0 complaints it has great power and the low end torque has me off the line and up to speed easily. I’m worried about the longevity of the engine long term but the 100k mile powertrain warranty does ease my mind a bit. I’m hoping in 3-4 years as I get further into ownership we will really know if it’s a reliable enough engine to hold on to for years or if I will dump it after warranty is up.
@matthewm39124 ай бұрын
I used to have a turbo charged scion TC, nothing crazy in terms of power, but to think that these days you can get a beast of a turbo 4 banger like this in a truck is hilarious. I wish i had this in my Scion LOL.
@westcoastronnieOC7144 ай бұрын
Will this engine run well if you decide to want to turn off the active fuel management? Not a big fan of it.
@anup_saha_jk3 ай бұрын
Hey thats my exact truck! Even down to the color. For my first truck, I'm pretty happy with it
@michaelblanco45052 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 silverado 1500 I ve had it for 2yrs no problems
@thunderbolt53544 ай бұрын
I could not live with that Honda Civic Sound ! I will keep my 5.3 V8 ! Nothing like the sound of a V8 !
@Cloud300004 ай бұрын
V8’s will always sound better, but a large cylinder inline 4-banger does sound better then a small cylinder 6-banger (diesel vs motorcycle).
@thunderbolt53544 ай бұрын
@@Cloud30000 There is nothing You can do to improve the whimpy sound of a 4 Banger !
@agenericyoutubehandleАй бұрын
When gm started on the 2.7, mary barra said to go balls out with infinite budget to design this engine. It's so well engineered. I can't wait until people swap it into sports cars lol
@jlcii4 ай бұрын
I drove the GMC version of this at my job in truck rental. I was thoroughly impressed with the amount of power the engine gave. It honestly felt like something that would hold up for a long time.
@jimmycline47784 ай бұрын
I wish they had this warranty for my 2023 Colorado Trail Boss!
@Tuishimi23 күн бұрын
I read a lot of posts, not just here, about people who berate Chevrolet, or people in Ford forums who berate Ford, on their choices and issues they've had and longevity, etc. I guess I am just one of those insanely lucky people who has NEVER had a serious issue with any vehicle I ever owned (except my first, poor, abused Subaru 40 years ago where I never had the timing belt serviced). I've owned two F-150s, a Ram 2500, and two 1500s (well, K10 and Silverado 1500 now) with no issues whatsoever. My take? I don't think you can go wrong purchasing a Ford or Chevrolet light duty or heavy duty truck. I think the naysayers (negative news/gossip) travels WAY more than the positive stories, since people who just truck along don't play around in forums saying "wow, I had another trouble-free day with my truck!"
@pkmachinegun4 ай бұрын
I have one in my 23 Sierra work truck. It sounds terrible, but it’s not down on power for what we use it for.
@blackericdenice4 ай бұрын
2:00 the turbo is the reason it making 90% torque @ 1500 rpm. Toyota Camry 2.5 has a slightly longer stroke and it peak @ 5,000 rpm.
@GixxerFoo4 ай бұрын
I am sold on this motor, I have been a die hard it ain't a truck if ain't a V8 my whole life. Personally I feel these have less issues than the AFM V8's, if the V8's didn't have AFM I would still opt for the V8. That 430 torque is what really sells me on these motors.
@TheGettyAdventures4 ай бұрын
Its too bad because I really like GMs V8's but the lifter issues kill it for me.
@Oneshawdog894 ай бұрын
Don’t be a “torque dummy”😂😂😂 You will pay the price later for the 4 banger, watch
@kakarotto4star4 ай бұрын
I’ve had too much bad luck with my 4.3L AFM Silverado to get another engine with AFM. I’d get a duramax or 2500
@drive-channel18344 ай бұрын
Next gen powertrain: Base engine: 1.2L inline-2, Twin Turbo. 360hp, 600Nm, 36mpg. Top of the line engine: 1.8L inline-3, Triple Turbo. 480hp, 900Nm, 36mpg. Common features: - Direct & port fuel injection - Continuously variable valve timing and lift - Continously variable electric water pump - Continuously variable electric oil pump - Cylinder deactivation/8-stroke mode - Integrated Starter-Generator - EPAS (Electric Power Assist Steering) - Electric brake booster - Electric A/C compressor Potential engine faults: - water pump communication loss - oil pump communication loss
@flyonbyya4 ай бұрын
Toyota has had port/direct in some models since 2007…17 years now! Called D4S
@firedflesh54274 ай бұрын
My buddy blew his 2.7 on his 2024 GMC at 6,000 miles. Warranty denied at the first dealership. But the second dealership did it and had to fight gm to get the warranty changed.
@ews3604 ай бұрын
3 year 36,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty. 5 year 100,000 mile drivetrain warranty.
@firedflesh54273 ай бұрын
@@ews360 Technically yes, but one of the dealerships in our area tries to avoid any possible warranty work. So they will deny warranty claims for things like "Modifications" (Stickers on your rear window).
@ews3603 ай бұрын
@@firedflesh5427 One of the largest reasons I buy new every 5 yrs is for the bumper to bumper & drivetrain warranties. I save receipts for correct viscosity dexos oil & a/c delco oil filters, & document all my oil changes date/mileage/% of oil life remaining in case of failure. Hasn't happened yet. Never modify anything. Dealer doesn't "eat it", manufacturer does.
@aaronstaeven312Ай бұрын
@@firedflesh5427 then you need to dime them out so other people know to stay away from dealers that do not stand behind their product.
@thehappygocurmudgeon528317 күн бұрын
I have a 2020 Silverado with this engine. I pull a 23 foot camper and have over 82k on it so far. I have zero complaints about this engine. It’s been better than I expected. The 8 speed transmission however, has been a different story. Pure garbage. My trans ate itself at 66k miles. It took GM 30 weeks to get me a new one.
@jamespcrown1282 ай бұрын
Itt handles the speed bumps very well when my wife drives it to the supermarket
@CharCharTV3 ай бұрын
I wish GM would put a V8 in their single cab trucks. I feel like they would sell really well.
@jimmie2knives1374 ай бұрын
Cylinder deactivation is what turned my off about these engines. Instead I chose the 3.0L I6 baby Duramax for my 2023 Silverado 1500. Despite all of the diesel pollution controls and DEF I still like the turbo diesel. It gets great fuel mileage, is surprisingly smooth and quiet and 30 mpg highway is easily achieved. That gives me over 700 mile range on the highway.
@mini2nut673 ай бұрын
Get ready to cough up $2k when the timing belt needs replacement.
@agerardomp4 ай бұрын
Greetings Alex. The main problem with AFM and DFM is that when they fail the cost of engine repair is higher. So then the treasure of some companies and workshops is to disconnect these "Fuel Saving" systems in software and mechanically. What fun from GM development engineers. A pleasure to see your videos, analysis and comments; Thanks Alex. I send you a big hug! 🤠
@gtrance35674 ай бұрын
Cool little engine. Too bad mpgs aren’t higher. Great video!! 👍
@justsaiyansteve3 ай бұрын
Amazing review, lots of information on this turbo max engine.
@ehderguyyashootadeerorno231312 күн бұрын
I wish they brought back the 350 engine. It’s been years since they used that engine
@SirtubalotTX4 ай бұрын
GM just needs to add a port injector to go along with the direct and make a hybrid version of this and I’d be all over it like White on Rice. Right now it’s the F150 hybrid for me, I need the onboard generator as well.
@markford95643 ай бұрын
My 2.7 turbo max lasted 2 months and 2000 miles oil control valve failed its sitting at the dealer valve has been on order for over a week.
@davidjernigan81614 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see the fuel economy test as the EPA numbers are pretty bad for such a small engine.
@pascalgagne124 ай бұрын
Always love your real world reviews. You are making me re-think my Duramax 3.0 in my 1500. Would love to hear your take between the 2 engines since the specs are so close.
@karlschauff79894 ай бұрын
The LZ0 is the best engine option in the GM half-tons. Especially with the max tow 3.73 axle ratio.
@TuishimiАй бұрын
The diesel gets like 50%+ better mileage. And puts out more torque. I think it is a great choice, I personally just cannot afford the extra 20K in the trucks you can get it in. :D