Ford F150 5L COYOTE V8 Engine | Top 5 Issues **Heavy Mechanic Reviews**

I review the Ford F150 5L coyote engine discuss the top 5 issues and problems about this 5L v8 engine. I talk about the Oil Consumption issues with these engines as well as camshaft phasers issues as well as talking about things that generally concern me about this engine. Finally I give you guys my conclusion if you should go out and buy this 5L coyote engine in a F150.
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I hope everyone is having a good week. I wanted to drop the final part of my ford F150 5L coyote engine review talking about the common issues and generally things that would concern me about this engine.
first and foremost I could not believe how many people were concerned about the oil consumption issues on these 5L engines so I took a deep dive into the issue and overall it seems like ford has resolved the issue.
the other common engine problems include head gasket leaks, mass air flow sensor issues, spark plug failures all of which are not too big of an issues.
the second big issues involved the cam phaser failure and it seems like this can be highly mitigated with good engine maintenance throughout the life the of the engine.
overall I still think the 5L engine from ford is a good engine choice and I would higher consider it if I was going to buy an F150.

[@alexsoria8433]

Government always ruins everything. Cylinder deactivation is the dumbest thing every created for the engine.

[@freedomisntfree_44]

Easy little plug deactivates it

[@TheGettyAdventures]

probably a tuner you can use to "delete it"

[@roywall8169]

Agreed

[@gtileo]

The science behind it is pretty sound, the practicality of it is dumb as fuck lol

[@derrickodyes1934]

Eh govt doesnt ruin everything maybe some over reach in mileage and emmissions but without govt no roads, no bridges, no fish left in ocean, no garbage pick up, no security so probably be ruzzian tanks running around for pootlers land grab so be careful what u wish for

[@marcopalo408]

Had a 2013 F150 XL with the 5.0 and an 8ft bed. It was just a work truck but even after 450,000 miles of constant abuse and so much neglect (company truck) engine and trans still ran like butter. Spark plugs finally burned out around 280,000 and welded themselves to the coil packs and the water pump gasket failed at 320,000. That was it. Damn thing was solid. Eventually they retired my truck and sold it at auction. Still miss that damn thing 😂

[@TheGettyAdventures]

People seem to really have great luck with the earlier 5L which is a great sign that the overall design of the engine was done well. But 450k miles is a TON of mileage on a gas engine!

[@marcopalo408]

@@TheGettyAdventures considering how many burnouts and full throttle launches with a full load and how many times that truck accidentally went airborne and how many times I was pegged on the speed limiter (110mph)😂 because of needing to make up time fast. That thing never once let me down. When the spark plugs burned out I still made it back on half an engine 200 miles. Thing was an absolute beast.

[@mike6l6]

450,000 in 10 years ?

[@townhall05446]

@@mike6l6 Got to be highway miles, which is a big help in lasting long mileage.

[@slipagent6]

Good to read, im about to pick up a really clean 2014 with low miles.

[@evanpapp93]

Bought a 2014 F150 5.0 in 2017 with 36k then sold it in 2022 with 164k. Did routine maintenance. Engine was bullet proof and fun to drive. Only thing that went wrong was a coolant leak at the water pump hose. Great engine.

[@Josh-dy7pf]

I have a 2023 with 5.0. The salesman told me that my truck does not have cylinder deactivation due to the computer chip shortage..my truck also does not have auto start/stop. I have no idea if i was lied to or not, but I really like my truck. I've got about 1500 miles on it so far.

[@answersforlooking9430]

keep that truck if you find out that what you said was actually true

[@Kody10538]

Holy shit that's a unicorn man lol

[@nighthawkone6770]

My 2022 XLT with 7500 miles doesn't use any oil. I change the oil every 5000 miles & so far I love the coyote engine.

[@randytefft7960]

I have a 2020 F-150 with the 5.0 V8 and it uses a quart of oil in 2000 miles. The Ford dealership performed the update (oil/filter change, new dipstick etc...), but it didn't seem to help. I have 67,000 miles on the truck. Great truck...but that oil thing bothers me. The dealers don't seem to care much. Other than that, this truck does everything I need! I enjoyed watching your videos as well! Thank You, Randy T.

[@randycrump5464]

I have a 2017 f150 5 liter and the great 6 speed trans with 105,000 miles and so far have not had any kind of issues with it. I run Pennzoil Platinum oil and replace around every 7500 miles. I'm old school and told the salesman that wanted to sell me the Ecoboost and told him rather have the extra two pistons rather than the extra cost and high dollar repair or replacement on the two turbos and equipment down the road. I tow a thirty five hundred pound cargo trailer with it about 3000 miles to the west mountains every year and it pulls it like a champ. Dealer has been wanting me to trade in for a 2023 model but will not because Ford screwed the current 5 liter engine up when they went direct injection, auto stop start, cylinder deactivation and the ten speed transmission.

[@BlueLines50]

Sr. You have finally answered my mysterious flaw on my 2018 Ford F150 5.0 since I purchased my truck back in 2018 I noticed I quart of oil burning with in an oil changed Ford told me it was a normal issue. I knew it was not normal and now because of your professional knowledge I know the true answer. Thank you Sr.

[@Jonathan-ci7fs]

Did you get a PCM reflash? Im taking my 2018 5.0 into the dealer this week.

[@beauhambleton2656]

I have a 2022 F150 Lariat with the 5.0L. I’ve heard a lot of noise about cylinder deactivation and people’s hesitation about it, but I have yet to hear of anyone having issues related to it since Ford put it on this engine. Maybe time will tell. I’m hopeful that Ford took into account lessons learned from GM and Ram.

[@onefastboi14]

Any trouble with oil consumption or the like? I’m seriously considering one of these trucks so I’d like to hear from a owner

[@joshelkins6189]

I have a 2018 5.0 with 60k with zero oil consumption. I change the oil every 4K miles using Mobile 1 with BG MOA. I use BG EPR before every oil change which helps clean the rings and keeping them tight. I love the truck and have had no issues, I would be lying however if I said all these videos don’t make me nervous and cautious!

[@johnc6256]

I have a 2015 5.0 and love it, not a single issue does not burn any oil runs great

[@craigg4246]

I have the 2018 F150 5.0L. Before the service bulletin was burning 1 qt per 1100-1400 miles. After the service bulletin is 1 qt per 4000 miles. Since I change the oil by then, never have to add any between changes anymore. On the plus side, I love the power. Especially at high speeds. The 70-100mph passing power is amazing! And, the fuel economy for such a powerful full size truck is great too. My average, which includes both city and highway driving is 20 mpg. Pure highway is 22mpg!

[@zachis4wheeling]

Hello. I also have a 2018 with the 5.0 and 10 speed and I do really like the truck. Mine too burns about the same oil as yours. When you mention the service bulletin, what exactly was done, and did the dealer handle the repair, or did you do it on your own? How many miles approximately did you do the service bulletin repair at?

[@craigg4246]

The service bulletin is a couple things. Primarily a software update the prevents the throttle plate from closing entirely during deceleration. This lowers the amount of manifold vacuum produced. Which prevents sucking the oil into the cylinders. Additionally they change the dipstick with one remarked levels. Wish it didn’t consume any oil at all, but I can live with a quart/4000 miles. No other issues at all at 78,000.@@zachis4wheeling

[@BoneohSanitarium]

I also have the 2018 F150 with the 5.0L. I need to add a quart about every 4,000 miles. I bought this as a certified pre-owned about three years ago, now has about 75,000 miles. We only put about 8,000 miles a year, some towing with a 3,000 lb teardrop trailer. No issues. We get around 15-16 mpg in city driving. Depending on the terrain, we get around 12 - 13 mpg towing. Driving up a lot of high mountain passes it drops to around 10 mpg.

[@cmoney8280]

Had a 2013 & put 360000km hard AB oil field kms on it & the engine was flawless. Changed the oil with full synthetic @ 10000km religiously with no engine issues. Seems like the cylinder deactivation & the piston liners seem suspect…

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Piston liners are very interesting to me! and wow 360k in oil country is no joke!

[@stephenfrost545]

2021 - 23 cylinder deactivation can be disabled with a tune and default to v8 mode once disabled. The mechanical parts have shown little to no issues once deactivated with a tune. The liners have been holding up rather well, but I have personally seen casting issues in the block in gen 3, and ring issues in gen 3. Gen 3.5 seems to be pretty decent so far.

[@alanschmidt3460]

The Coyote 5.0 Gen1 doesn’t have the Cylinder Deactivation System in it. It’s wasn’t available until 2021 is what I read. I own the 2013 Gen1.

[@nb7466]

I had one for work. A 2018. Great power. Cam phasers went at 92k. It was still running but it clattered a lot.

[@JD1459]

I bought a brand new 2017 F150 4X4 FX4 XLT 302A 5.0L coyote 2nd generation. I take it to the dealership for all maintenance, and i have them change the oil and rotate the tires every 4000 -5000 miles. It has been rock solid since i bought and I now have 80,000 miles on my truck.

[@RyanChapman-em3xl]

Great video ! Looking forward to seeing some trailer action! Keep crushing it man your videos are the highlight of my week!

[@dantimber]

Agree. The detailed explanations make it easier for non-engine guys like me to better understand. As for this engine I like it but I'm concerned about cylinder deactivation. Ditto GM and Ram deactivation.

[@TheGrizz49]

Drove from Illinois down to Orlando Florida. Down i55 to New Orleans then over. The truck used 1.5 quarts of oil. Had the new dipstick, etc. done before the trip. Going back Monday to the shop.

[@duncanelizabethandvictoria6916]

Great series. Thank you. Would love to see a 6.2l ford gas breakdown.

[@myrddincox]

Wow - great video! I have a 21 XLT with the 5.0. No oil consumption issues so far (30k miles)!

[@streetdevilz1454]

Got a 14 5.0 here when we bought it new my brother and a friend helped me remove the cab and box / components required to upgrade the stock chassis and frame it was a a lot of fun long hours but made the truck that much more reliable we sprayed it with a spray liner coating to protect the frame and body while it continues being a plow truck it never let us down but keep it mind that co insides with regular scheduled maintenance.

[@itsallminor6133]

Tried that once. It doesn't work. Salt and stuff end up under the coating. On my it ended up eating the bed side frame rails. Welded frame and sold. Didn't dare wonder what was under the rest of the coating. I actually end up going about 2 ft up with it all around the outside of the truck as well. Used bedliner spray coated everything. Nope. Still rusted

[@paultro8457]

I'm with you. I'm not waiting the full 10,000 miles to change my oil. I don't care what type of additive packet is in that oil. I simply don't trust it and everything seems to have a turbo on it now a days. As soon as one of my vehicles gets down to fifty percent oil life i change it. Just personal preference.

[@scottsmith31]

Get with the times. Tons and tons and tons of research and real world testing has proven 10k oil changes are perfectly fine with synthetic oil.

[@kenpriest5672]

I’d rather change it too often than not enough.

[@anthonywood4894]

I’ve got a 2007 F150 4.6 that’s had oil changes every 10k mobile 1 5w20 full synthetic with 212K on the odometer and still going strong. The only work I had to do was replace the AC. The truck is solid and used as a company service truck now.

[@ohboy2592]

Do an oil analysis test at 5,000 miles and see what it says.

[@specialperson170]

ive got a 2014 with 185k miles and it runs perfect zero problems super happy with it i honestly dont expect any new vehicle to last over 150k miles because of how many bad engines have been produced lately

[@willysnowman]

Said no Toyota owner

[@hoobness]

My old 14 f150 coyote ran for 270000 +. 100k was spent pulling 7500lb camper nationwide. When sold it ran perfect. Only sold because clogging cats, giving poor mpg. Great truck. Great engine.

[@chris1904sd]

Thanks for reminding me, I need to get an oil change in my 2019 5.0

[@agerardomp]

Regards Alex. Really very important all yours observations. THANK YOU!

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Thank you sir!

[@trentonreese2713]

i have had a total of three for my company. 1 made it to 250k then we sold it (still ran great) the other 2 are around 120-150k right now and we plan on at least another 50k of service from both if not more. One was a 2011 and 2 2012s.

[@jasondence3189]

I bought a 2022 5.0L used in Jan 2023 with 4,400 miles. Has a little over 30K miles now and no engine issues. Even under heavy towing I have no oil loss.

[@gametimeracing]

I just bought one! Great synopsis!

[@davidfincham1218]

I have a 2020 F150 5.0 and I just had the engine replaced at 60,000 miles by dealer due to the oil consumption. Luckily I bought the 100,000 mile warranty.

[@johnrutherford407]

My 20 is using 3 qts every 5 thousand miles. What was yours?

[@davidfincham1218]

About the same@@johnrutherford407

[@wowdude8244]

Daamm you got lucky with the engine swap

[@colbiecolbie6979]

Great info again , just a thought , but would you consider a video of your tools ? Seeing that you work on big diesels

[@Joao_Oliveira23]

My 19 was burning so much oil that you can’t even see oil on the dip stick, and this is after all the updates they did and the truck was well maintained

[@nicklindsey7161]

I have a 2021 5.0 in my F150. 70,000 km on it. Not a single issue. Have been doing my own oil changes every 10,000km with no oil loss.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Awesome to hear Nick!

[@calistocm]

We just had the engine and transmission replaced at a cost of $25k in one of our work trucks, a 2021 F150 with 220,000km. It had oil consumption problems from day one and hard shifting that the dealer could not fix.

[@scottwidrick1835]

Thanks for the updates. Changed my oil last night in a 2018 f150 coyote. Even though I had the tsb completed almost 2 years ago this engine still burns 2-1/2 quarts in 4000 miles on full synthetic Penzoil Ultra. I change the oil at 50% oil life . I currently have just under 50,000 miles. The front wheel bearing was replaced a 1000 miles ago and the locks still freeze even after the repair update. I like the truck but it does have some issues.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Thanks for the info Scott! That's a lot of oil burnt in 4,000 miles. not really good. from what I'm gathering from the comments most people who got the TSB done still experience oil consumption which sucks.

[@clarktraub4540]

I had to put same in for 4000 miles. Juat had oil change at shop and they scoped the cylinders and found scoring in 1 and 2 on cylinder walls and claim that's where the oil is going.

[@scottwidrick1835]

@@clarktraub4540 Interesting. Can they do anything about it with the spray cylinders? thanks

[@garybuckley-bb4bs]

I had the updates done to my 2018.The biggest scam ever.They put a longer dipstick in and the 2 marks that indicate down 1 ltr were spaced apart the amount of the extra length of the dipstick and added an extra ltr of oil.When the stick is down to the 1 ltr mark ,your actually down 2 ltrs. I sold my truck at 32000 kms .The new owner will not know the differnce unless they top up the oil between changes

[@bobbyt3358]

They did that with my 2019 but also reprogrammed the computer. Problem was solved.@@garybuckley-bb4bs

[@dane5896]

My friends 1989 Mustang 5.0 LX, has never had to add oil between changes. Old school push rod engine. 250,000 miles, still has original starter, alternator, water pump, clutch, radiator. Original set of brakes lasted 100,000 miles.

[@charlescurran1289]

Great video but it would be helpful to know at what mileage you might be seeing these problems arise. Like, do bearings or head gaskets fail after 10k miles or 100k? Also, under what use conditions such as tracking or towing heavy trailers could you expect to see failures.

[@user-nl3wj3us6f]

I have a 2018 F-150 with 5 L coyote engine. My truck had the oil consumption issue & brought my truck into the dealership for the TSB update. Dealer told me it was a vacuum issue which caused oil consumption issues. Also changed out dipstick, oil& filter. So far I haven't noticed anymore oil consumption issues. My 2018 F-150 is a extra cab & had issue with the door lock freezing. Ford had a recall on this problem. I brought my truck into dealership to resolve this issue. FYI theirs a 10 yr timeline once you receive this recall to resolve this matter

[@Bostonharborwater]

When I was buying my first brand new truck in 2019, I was looking at. Chevy. Ford and the tundra. I passed on the Chevy because of the cylinder deactivation. I would’ve bought a 5.3 without question. I had an older one. It was great. I had an F150 all picked out. 5.0. 373 gear. Stx. After a little more research. I passed because of the oil consumption. I ended up with a 5.7 tundra. Got a great deal on it because it was right before covid. Truck has been near flawless. Had the fuel pump recall done that a gazillion Toyotas had. The trucks just built well. Nothing fancy but everything works well. I pull an 8000+ lb boat with it. Added some Firestone bags and LT tires and it’s solid. I’ll be keeping this one hopefully for a long time.

[@wowdude8244]

tundras are bullet proof but they're ugly seems like Toyota don't care much about decent looking interior

[@wdwilson397]

I bought a 2012 F-150 5.0 w/ 130k miles and was so clean I went for it. I changed all fluids (I didn't follow Ford's rec 5w-20 went to 5w-30), plugs, shocks, Diff's and tranny fluid...also note, do not follow the Ford recommended 150k tranny fluid change, fluid was dark brown at 130k. Afterwards, the trans shifted much better. I moved 1500 miles across the country with three trips (close to 6k mi) towing a very heavy utility trailer loaded a little beyond the truck weight rating. Oil was black so changed with Amsoil 5w 30. Not one problem, love this truck.

[@JohnDiMartino]

If you’re buying a used 5 L you should be very concerned about it since many of the ones sitting on the car lot used were traded because people were tired of dealing with oil consumption that the dealer couldn’t or wouldn’t fix.

[@frankpocean]

Anything else I should keep an eye on? I've watched this video a few times now as well as others and I'm just gathering info. Looking at a 2019 5.0 with 76k and I'd like it to last for quite some time. I don't drive MUCH and will rarely tow anything

[@johnscott6745]

That was my intention when I bought my 19 5.0. FWIW, the only reason I still have it is because I feel guilty passing it on to someone else. Oil consumption, suspected cam phasers (I have changed oil and done routine maintenance religiously), stalling coming to rolling stop, replaced rear end, TCM fault codes, you name it at 80k miles. Anecdotal evidence, but I'd stay as far away as possible if I were you. Dealership is less than helpful in advising, 2 independent shops have told me it's got some bad signs, could run for quite a while, could be a paperweight next week. I will personally never own another Ford product after this experience. Just my 2 cents.@@frankpocean

[@joshua4974]

I just had the tsb done on my 2020 5.0 f150 with 58k miles, drove it 4k miles and brought it back in. Dealer told me it actually failed the oil consumption test and next test is compression test and was basically told I will be getting a brand new engine in about a year because they are backordered right now.

[@lancebrinkley5637]

I own a 2008 Ford with the Triton V8. 180,000 miles and it's just now giving me engine problems. Transmission went out years ago! Looking to buy a new vehicle and so confused on what to buy. I don't like turbo, but it seems that is the direction all manufacturers are going. Leaning towards Tundra at the moment. Thanks for all the detailed videos!

[@erwinecaletena]

can you please make a review on the 3.5 powerboost, thanks. Great vids as always

[@TheGettyAdventures]

It's on my short lists of engines!

[@p.emerson0864]

The only reason I want one is for the aluminum body.....no rust for my last truck on earth. Never cared for the modular engines with those pesky timing chain tensioner problems. Right now, I have an '05 Hemi with 184,000 miles still going strong....1 owner. But I need to catch it before the damn cam/lifter destruction.

[@craigg4246]

The plasma cylinder liners usually last longer than iron sleeves. Ford said in their testing that the cylinders still measured at new dimensions at 250,000 miles. The plasma is just so hard, they just don’t wear. The rings though are another story. They will need replacing long before the plasma bores will.

[@KubanKevin]

a lot of people have reported cylinder scoring so I wouldn't count on what ford says.

[@Jaxen90841]

Soooo, how do they replace the rings if the cylinder bore is so hard that it cant be given a honed finish? When I was a younger, more foolish home mechanic back in the 1980s, I re-ringed my Buick V-6 with the perfectly mirror smooth, old cylinder bores. Burned a quart of oil every 200 miles. The rings never broke in. Same here?

[@craigg4246]

you send it to a machine shop equipped to finish plasma cylinders@@Jaxen90841

[@kylesummers1565]

I just sold my 2013 5.7L Rock Warrior (111K miles) to my company as a work truck (One of our 2018 1500 work trucks has just been in the shop constantly at only 60k miles.) because it hasn't had any mechanical issues in spite of quite a bit of rugged use (and it saved us almost $30K over buying a new truck (you can do a lot of repairs for $30K)). I was unhappy that Toyota eliminated the 5.7 (which was engineered from the GM 5.7 from what I understand), so I bought an F-150 Tremor for myself and eventually settled on the 5.0L. Although my favorite muscle car was a 1971 426ci Hemi Cuda, I have had very bad luck with Daimler-Chrystler products (I still have a CJ-7 that is not running more than it is running). I started as a Ford guy, became a GM guy, and then bought my first Toyota. I know it will upset some, but my 2002 Taco is still my go-to recovery vehicle with almost 200k miles. I bought the Tremor 5.0 with the thought that I might supercharge it. Do you have any insight on the Ford-approved and sold Whipple supercharger kit? It would seem to eliminate the cylinder deactivation issue, and my truck already doesn't have the stop-start thingy. Obviously, I would lose the almost 20mpg combined that I am getting (which is crazy to me), but if the pros outweigh the cons I might do it. Peace, Love!!

[@lobbyrobby]

I have a 2011 f150 5.0. It's been a good truck. I did have to replace the rear end which I hear is a common problem so I went aftermarket. As far as engine I had to fix the common antifreeze leak from that t connection. While I was doing that I replaced the water pump, put in a new serpentine belt, new plugs and cleaned the mass airflow sensor and throttle body as you mentioned. All fluids have recently been changed expect the front diff because that's a pita! I'll probably tackle that this summer.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

A coworker of mine did his front diff and he's been a licensed mechanic for like 20 years. it took him like 4 hours. he eventually just drilled and tapped a drain plug in the front cover for next time.

[@lobbyrobby]

@@TheGettyAdventures yeah, I looked at it for about 20 seconds and gave up on it. I took it to a local mechanic to have the transmission serviced and asked him to do the front diff. When I picked it up he said "sorry but I'm doing that" haha. My plan is to get it nice and warmed up and I'm going to try to suck it out the best I can. Even if I get a little bit out I'll feel like I succeeded.

[@davidvoitle2502]

I have a 2020. It used a small amount of oil early on but not that much. Got it new. Now with 57000 miles on it after 3000 miles on oil change, using Ford recommended oil, 2 quarts low!! Going to contact dealer about this. I am old school and check oil at least every couple weeks. Hate to see what happens owners not aware of these issues.

[@charbvin]

100% agree on the 6000 miles or 10 000kms oil changes.

[@andrewcleveland]

I have 2015 f150 coyote which is the 2nd gen coyote. . Bought brand new and have 152,000 miles on it now. Replaced water pump about 500 miles ago. Always change oil at 5,000 miles and it doesn’t use any oil still. Been extremely reliable truck for me so far.

[@devinmayer8244]

My dad has a 2020 5.0 F150, 34,000 miles and has been burning about 3 quarts between 5k oil changes. Ford has a new motor on order for him and have told him to just monitor his current motor until they can have it swapped. The new motor has been on back order for about 8 months now

[@Brian_195]

The VCT solenoids have been the only issue I’ve had with my 2019 F150 Roush, and it wasn’t due to a lack of maintenance. I change my oil every 5K miles. But, I’ve never had any oil consumption or any other issues with my truck, which has 56K miles on it so far.

[@ernestjohnson1807]

56,000 and cam phaser issues. Sounds Ford to me. It shocks me every time I hear Ford owners talking about engine failure at such low mileage. And they think it good. Sucker born that day for sure.

[@BrianBourgeois-]

@@ernestjohnson1807where did you hear engine failure?

[@macleod1592]

I've had a 2016 F150 FX4 since new and its been great for me. Sounds great too. I've had no problems out of it or anything on the truck actually. I'm very pleased with it.

[@fj400007]

Exact same. It's been flawless

[@clarktraub4540]

Just had oil change today at ford dealer. Told them I put in 2 quarts in 4k miles . They pulled plugs and scoped cylinders and found 1 and 2 had scoring on walls . They didn't know why but said that's where my oil is going and if I want to fix it I'd need a new motor. Currently 80k miles on truck . 2018 f150 5.0 v8

[@thomasbolin2234]

I've got the 2015 f150 5.0 FX4 supercrew. Great video, but there is NOTHING EASY about changing the MAF sensor because it doesn't have one. It has what is called a MAP/ID sensor the MAF is incorporated into that, and that sensor is located behind the manifold. I would love to see a video on the easiest way to change it

[@CarlosF-bv3dg]

Hey there I have one question and was hoping maybe you can help me get an answer , so a friend of my mine recently put his f150 up for sale , same model same year as yours and I went to test drive it and everything seems great , it has 130k miles , clean title , aftermarket wheels and we settled on a price of 20k but I told him I would reach out to him back soon . Do you think that’s a great deal?

[@thomasbolin2234]

@CarlosF-bv3dg depends on what the truck has in it , meaning the cab amenities. Also, what trim package and motor. If this helps, I paid $25,000, which mine came loaded, full moon roof, heated seats, sync 3 system, 143,000 miles in Dec. When I bought it. Tilt,telescopic steering,supercrew 4X4. Tuned true 5.0 Coyote. The list goes on. I will say this, if it has the Eco boost, in my opinion, turn and run. Yes, they are fast, and there are those very few gems but mostly more trouble than their worth. Like I said, just my opinion

[@markmankin4975]

2022 5.0 with 20k miles. No oil loss or burning. 5w30 synthetic blend. Change oil every 5k. Tow a 25ft jaco from Ohio to North Carolina 4 times a year. Never used oil

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

2011-2013 has inferior intake valves. They supposedly updated the valves sometime in 2013...but.. My 2014 built Oct.14 developed it. Lost compression on 2 cylinders. Had to rebuild both heads at 150km...my buddy at the machine shop said they're coming in like clockwork with Tulip'd valves. Mostly Cyl 4 & 8. The new Gen 3s all burn excessive oil.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Interesting. Thanks for the info sir. I wonder if that's why the second gen 5L came with new intake and exhaust valves.

[@breakmytee93]

I've got a 2013 with the Gen 1 Coyote with 141k miles. Great engine for me. I've had some minor things to replace like the water pump (90k miles is common issue) and oil pan gasket. Neither was difficult since there is plenty of room to work under the hood. 5k oil changes. Overall I love the truck, it has held up really well, and the motor has been great. My question for Alex would be: If I ever have to replace the motor, could I replace it with the Gen 2 Coyote? My father-in-law had a 2015 with the Gen 2 coyote and the bigger valves seemed to really wake the engine up.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

second gen engines seem to be really solid units! I'm honestly not too sure on if you could simply drop the second gen engine in without issue. I would think at least you would need to change your powertrain computer and harness.

[@ernestjohnson1807]

Imagine being so bad that 140,000 miles with out a break down is doing good. That's ford.

[@rapTorfx4]

Tell me again how Chevy is so amazing when their engines self destruct from the AFM system? Or Dodge and their transmissions 😂

[@169abr]

No you can’t, you can do Gen 2 bottom end, Gen 2 heads, but you need to use the Gen 1 timing components and cams since your ECU is Gen 1.

[@user-tb7mo5mg5d]

Yes 2020 5.0 still have oil burn issues. I’m currently getting an engine replacement under warranty for this oil burn issue issue and cylinder scoring.

[@RedWingsninetyone]

I saw a video recently from a Ford tech that brought up a few good points about the oil consumption issue. The first thing was that the latest TSB seems to fix the issue for 90%+ of owners. The main point he brought up was that older people are the only ones regularly checking their oil levels. This comes from the old days when oil leaks and consumption was more common and electronics to monitor the oil were pretty much non-existent. The engine is designed to work within a range and if you're not seeing warning lights, you're not likely going to see issues that would result from low oil.

[@zacharywatson3242]

I own a 2020 f150 with the 5.0. It sucked down oil until I had them flash the PCM. It drives way better and doesn't guzzle oil. I think the new rings and cylinders sealed too well and created too strong of a vacuum like ford claims. I think that because the Mustangs with the same cylinder treatment don't see the issue. The mustangs use a different PCV valve that's more restrictive (has a smaller hole diameter) so some f150 owners would just buy the mustang PCV valve for their truck and swap it out, which solved the issue entirely for most.

[@salty5706]

17 with the 5.0 never had a single issue bought it new. I would never sell it because I don’t feel like I could replace it.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

I have heard multiple people talk about their 17 5L and how they have had zero issues. Must be a good year for these engines!

[@johnc6256]

15 through 17 best years for the 5.0

[@jsnokhous]

I’ve got a 2020 5.0 built in July, zero issues running 5w-20 mobile 1

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Awesome to hear Jason! hopefully she keeps on running well for you.

[@kenwalls8176]

I have a 2020 and I was SHOCKED when i pulled the dip stick . Did not register even after adding a quart .

[@anthonywood4894]

My 2022 does not consume a drop of oil. Even when I went longer than my usual 5K oil change. Currently at 21K miles. I also am glad to see a lack of issues with cylinder deactivation popping up the way it did with Dodge and GM. While never optimal I think Fords CD is a better setup than Dodge or GM.

[@SudburySaturdayNight1787]

What mpg are you getting? No oil consumption issues here either. But the cylinder deactivation kinda scares me a bit. Do you notice a difference in mpg with the C.D? I'm just glad Ford doesn't use the same cd set up that Chevy does.

[@da4944]

I heard that Ford went with the bigger oil pump from the Godzilla engine (the reason for the belt-driven pump?) when they introduced the CD feature on the 4th-gen Coyote to eliminate the issues found on other brands with CD.

[@da4944]

@@SudburySaturdayNight1787 If you're concerned about CD, you can disable it by switching the Drive Mode to Sport. You'll have to switch to Sport on every start up, but I routinely dial over to Sport mode and set the transmission gear limiter to 7 when driving around town and on short highway trips (8, 9, & 10 are overdrive gears and the truck rarely, if ever, shifts above 7 without gear limiting when driving around town below 50MPH), and It makes the truck more responsive with quicker accelerator response & shifts. I only see a 1MPG gain in Normal Mode.

[@bill_clinton697]

As someone who owns a Dodge, it seems as if the "cylinder deactivation" issues are more of an oiling issue at idle rather than a cylinder deactivation or parts quality issue. Dodge started to have issues with lifters in 2009, when VVT was added to the engine and can happen on all HEMIs with or without MDS. Cylinder 5 seems more common to fail rather than the rest, which is a non-MDS cylinder. Also, Dodge introduced cylinder deactivation in 2006 and the earlier 2006-2008 engines with MDS but without VVT do not have lifter issues like the 2009+. Also, Dodge lifter issues, due to it being an oiling issue at idle, are a later in life issue. Many engines make it to 150k+ without issues. My 2015 has 206k on it's original lifters. The main ways to avoid lifter failure on a Dodge is avoid idling and short cycling if you don't want to replace the oil pump for the hellcat part. It also seems as if lifter failure is worse on the earlier engines, with weaker oil pumps that pump lower pressures at idle. GM lifters seem to be a poor quality control issue, because I've heard of many GM lifters failing very early in the engine's life. Like as early as the first 10k miles on the engine. Though only time will tell how a vehicle will last and time will tell if Ford's cylinder deactivation will give the engine issues.

[@bigp6071]

I have a 2018 xlt 5.0. I started getting oil consumption around 50k miles. It’s pretty bad, after an oil change it takes about 2k miles and most of the oil is gone. Fortunately, my truck is still under warranty and the dealer has just ordered me a new motor. Keep an eye on it and do what you can to not void your warranty.

[@mdouce6749]

2020 F150 here, ironically i just learned of this issue and decided to check the dipstick. 4.5qts low with 25% oil life remaining. No change in performance/temp etc...

[@danb3122]

😮

[@milanvracarichsr.5022]

Have a 2020. I have to check my oil every 1000 miles. I have a catch can on it and I always have about 3/8” in the catch can. I used a half qt towing about 4000 lbs for 60 miles.

[@bradleycase4391]

I have the same year and put a catch can also with the same results as you. Have had no problems with it at all

[@okmusicman731]

I have the 2020 F-150 with the 5.0 Coyote. I am having excessive oil burning issues. I always have to add at least 1 quart between oil changes.

[@user-vf2ip9gb2h]

2020 F150 with the 5.0, I have been burning 4 quarts in between 3k oil changes - in the shop now. my friend has the same truck same year same issue

[@dlg5485]

I'm looking to get a long bed F-150 to carry a 2000 pound truck camper. At first I was planning on getting a 7.3 F-250, but after diving into the specs, I realized I can easily get away with a F-150 as long as I stick with a reg cab XL or XLT, which I was gonna do anyway. I'm leaning toward a F-150 XLT 5.0 with payload package. The extra tq of the 3.5 is a consideration, but turbos tend to be problematic as they age and long term reliability is my top priority.

[@ericlovelis5127]

After owning a problematic 3.5 I would not recommend that engine in a full size truck. I contend it is too little.

[@dlg5485]

@@ericlovelis5127 Which iteration of the 3.5 did you ow? This engine has been revised multiple times and is a much better engine today than when it was first put in the F150. That said, I think the 2.7 ecoboost is a better engine than the 3.5 because it's built much stronger, almost like a diesel. It'd actually get the 2.7 if it had a bit more torque.

[@martyvincent487]

Great video!! I purchased my 2020 F150 5.0L engine with 64K km's and started suspecting heavy oil consumption after going thru an oil change etc. It was brought into the dealer, they did change the oil/filter and reprogrammed the PCM. After 2,5000 km's my level had dropped to the bottom of the cross-hatched section on the stick. It is schedule to go in once again for further diag next week. Fortunately it is still covered under the Ford powertrain warranty.

[@VladmirVorkeshky]

What a Fantastic video. Been looking for a video like this for a while. Hoping to get 300k out of my '15 gen 2 Coyote with 135k. I abuse it consistently when it has been warmed up after 20 mins or so. Been hearing a new tick noise that keeps up with RPMs. Got Oil analyzed and everything checks out to average or better wear and the anti-wear additives are better than average...

[@Jerry-rd9my]

I have the Gen 2 (2015 F150) 5.0. 297K miles and still runs great. Has a small tick when warm. Not certain if a rod bearing. The noise is not coming from under the valve cover, so a rod noise is possible. If so, I may have to slide a new rod bearing in when the spring comes. Not fun but doable with the engine in the truck.

[@VladmirVorkeshky]

@@Jerry-rd9my Yeah Mine sounds like it’s top end. I’m starting to think it’s either lifter/follower or cam phaser. Definitely on passenger side. 145k now. No difference in performance as of yet. Might drive it till it blows unless the sound gets worse.

[@rhalloff]

I have a 2019 Coyote that had the issue. TSB applied and the problem went away. But....... I had to put in a quart at 2200 miles today. Engine has 75K miles on it. Love the truck, love the engine. You should mention the issues with the 10 spd transmission. I've had the truck in 3 time for hard shifting when cold. 1st time they said it's normal. Then, they replaced a valve in the valve body. The last time not only would it shift very hard when cold (30 deg F), it slipped bad. This time they completely rebuilt the valve body. Thank God I had an extended warranty... So far so good.

[@fordman2288]

from what i seen you have to get them to change the shift pattern programing, theres videos about it on here

[@rhalloff]

@@fordman2288 yeah, they did that too. The last rebuild of the valve body seems to have fixed it. They also reset the pcm as well I believe

[@TheGettyAdventures]

It seems like almost everyone is still burning oil after the TSB which kind of sucks to hear. as for the transmission I've heard the ford 10 speeds are having issues with hard shifting. maybe I'll look into it.

[@rhalloff]

@@TheGettyAdventures thanks for the response. I like your videos. See you on the next fricken’ video

[@jaimeperez2764]

Warm up

[@rockymountainjazzfan1822]

I bought a used 2020 F-150 with the 5.0L Coyote engine with 40K miles. It was burning a quart of oil per 1,000 miles. The oil consumption TSB had not been done. I had the TSB performed at the Ford dealership. So far, it appears to have largely solved the oil consumption issue. The dealership expressly told me that if the truck continued to burn oil at 1 quart per 1,000 miles or more, they would look at actually replacing the engine under warranty--they noted that, out of performing the TSB on around 100+ 5.0L trucks, they had to replace one engine. For this dealership, the 5.0L is their biggest seller in the F-150.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Good on the dealership! seems like they are actually about offering good service. thank you for the information on the TSB seemingly working.

[@dmandman9]

@@TheGettyAdventures Ford tells us the consumption limit is now 1 quart per 3,000 miles. When we perform the tsb, it usually fixes the oil consumption. But in a few cases we do have to replace the engine.

[@dmandman9]

We don’t replace many phasers. But we do replace quite a few cam phaser solenoids. That usually solves the problem. The cylinder deactivation system SEEMS trouble free thus far . We haven’t had problems at our dealership with this system. Time will tell. But so far, so good

[@johnrutherford407]

​@@dmandman9I'm at 3 quarts every 5000. New engine?

[@dmandman9]

@@johnrutherford407 has the update been done per the tsb? If not, then have them perform it. That may fix it. If it’s been done, then have them officially initiate an oil consumption test. They’ll then change the oil, mark the dipstick at one qt low and at the full level, and record the mileage. They’ll then have you come in at regular intervals (likely 500 mile). And they’ll check the oil. If it drops below the 1 qt level before it reaches 3,000 miles, they’ll repair or replace it depending on what they find. In some cases it’s leaking past the valves. In some cases it’s leaking past the piston rings. So the repair could be cylinder heads, a short block, or a complete engine. At our shop, they’ve authorized a complete engine based on our findings. Of course it depends on whether it’s still under warranty or not. Factory Powertrain warranty is 5 years/60,000 miles. If you purchased the extended warranty, then it’s covered based on that. It’s a good idea to have oil change records available. But Ford hasn’t really been that strict unless they see evidence of neglect, which is unlikely if you’ve changed oil anywhere near regularly. At one time there was a lengthy backlog. Ford allowed the customer to keep driving the truck, and we added oil until an engine became available. But I think the replacement engines are now available. Hope this helps

[@bobbyjones5754]

Speaking of, I am heading out to truck now to add oil to my 2020 F150 5.0. I usually add about 1qt a month.

[@RJ2878]

2018 F150 5.0 Love the engine and power but still uses about 2-2.5 quarts in 5k miles. Took it back to dealer…did updates years ago (was using more oil) they changed dipstick…did calm down some. Seems better using the Motorcraft 5-20 and change every 5k.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

almost everyone is saying that after the TSB their trucks still burns oil. kind of sucks.

[@RJ2878]

@@TheGettyAdventures yes it does suck for an expensive truck…after 76k I’m accustomed to it. Had a 2012 5.0 that used some also, probably about 1/2 as much as my 2018. Then our 2016 4Runner’s inefficient 4.0 engine doesn’t use a drop.

[@cp_atving5084]

Have you seen the new TSB 23-2194 for the new 5.0s? Oil leak from the engine block. I have a 23 F150 that falls within the date range of the TSB, so I am concerned.

[@paultaylor1372]

The Getty Adventures, I would like to get you opinion on VCT solenoids. I have been experiencing low idle stalling at stop lights/stop signs and I have read that replacing the solenoids should resolve the issue but then I also ready that replacing the variable valve timing sproket would resolve the issue, what are your ideas on this?

[@MTchillmusic]

I have 2018 with the 5.0 liter. I've had issue with engine rattle noisy after cold starts. Before the engine warms up it would rattle after you accelerate and let off the pedal. The dealer said that noisy is normal. Not sure...what do you think?

[@henrycourtney750]

Alex I watched so many video's, I m going to purchase a Ford in South Texas tomorrow, I like the V8 and your reviews, I have a 2017 F150 V6 Echo and I am tired of the knocking that started at around 110000 miles now I have 127 thousand and its getting worse. any advice?

[@vaportrail6315]

Interesting that a partial or complete cure is a new dipstick pcv valve and switch from 5w20 to 5w30 engine oil. It helped on my 2018 but then again I never got the pcm updated because with the 3.55 gears it gets 20-23mpg! I use Schaeffer's Supreme 9000 a true synthetic oil 13.01 a quart and change my oil around 10000 miles until I get 100,000 miles then I will change around 7,500 miles. This is a 2022 F150 5.0 XLT RCSB 4x4 and has 4.10 with torsen front and 4.09 with yukon posi in rear with 22x9 Ford aluminum wheels with 285x 55r22 Yokohama GO15 tires. This pickup rips. My son now owns my 2018 F150 5.0 SCab with 113,000 + miles and runs great - no problems with either truck and they are and were never babied by me My 2022 has almost 39,000 miles gets around 18-19mpg @ 60- 65mph winter and 19-20 in summer

[@Jeffrey7348]

So do you all recommend the 5.0 or 2.7, 3.5 turbo? Shopping for a F150, would like to hear owner's thoughts?

[@kentapley9315]

I had a 2019 5.0 F150. Engine ran great. But I did have the oil consumption issue. But I also had the loud ticking or knocking which sounded like it was coming from passenger side of engine. Couldn’t hear it driving down road and was hard to hear just sitting idling at a red light or where ever. Worse was sitting in a drive through at a fast food place or in garage where the knocking noise was bouncing off wall or something. I change my oil every 4000 to 5000 miles and used Mobil 1. I drove it appx 35000. 3 different dealers said it was normal and only actual possible reason I ever got was a fuel rail making the noise, and was told it was normal??!! Never had any problem other than noise. But it was very noticeable and loud. I finally couldn’t take it anymore and traded on a 2021 with 3.5 eco in jan of 2021 right before the price gouging started. It has been perfect and I love driving it. And can’t even hear it running. Any idea on what it could have been? Truck was perfect and drove fantastic. Just couldn’t take what sounded like a rod knocking.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

If it was a rod knock you would of thought at least one of the dealers would of suspected that. In terms of fuel injector noise. I know my 6.4 hemi makes a metalic knocking noise at idle and thats just the fuel injectors. But its weird how at idle the noise was quiet. Not a bad decision to trade the truck in with the oil consumption.

[@peterleitmann2744]

glisch With my 2016 F150 5.0 Coyote I often have the error P0172 and P0175. In the video at 02:53 you talk about the air mass sensor. I've been looking for it everywhere in the intake track, but haven't found it. Where is it installed? I found a map sensor that sits in the intake manifold on the transmission side. We don't have a workshop for the F-150 here in Germany because the truck is not sold here.

[@roberteigenberger5064]

I have a 2020 and just took it in for oil consumption. They reprogrammed the pcm. It’s going back in 4000 miles for evaluation.

[@timolson7005]

you are making me like my 2015 2.7.. cast iron, non rubber belt.. got the TSB for the pan and valve covers and its totally tight.. it kinds of sounds like keeping the old truck is better than a new one.. your thoughts?

[@joeld9896]

Hey Alex! I have a quick question. Would a catch oil can help with minor oil consumption issues in a great running 60k miles 2018 5.0? I mean oil lost is oil lost I suppose but it would cut down on engine wear due to gumming up over time right?

[@highwayman1218]

Based on the 5.0 issue, no.... The problems have been oil past the rings and burned in the cylinders.... A catch can will catch oil thatd be burned through the PCV / intake, a different issue....

[@nickwelch9186]

9:35 I have a 2020 F-150 and am going through 3-5 qt of oil every 3 months. Just found out about the service bulletin, so will make an appointment and pray it gets fixed. If not, I’ll be suing Ford or joining the class action suit

[@carguy0389]

I own a 2022 f150 5.0 and I’ve almost smelt an oil burning smell but I’m never low and I’m on my 4th oil change so far at 12k miles. I do it every 3k miles for my own piece of mind

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Can't go wrong there. I change my oil every 5,000km which is like 3500 miles something like that lol

[@carguy0389]

@@TheGettyAdventures helps me sleep at night 😂😂

[@bradf3963]

I have a 2020 with the 5.0. Just finished an oil consumption study with my dealership and they agreed to apply the TSB 19-2365 on the next oil change. Consumption is about a quart every 3000 miles. I'll let you know if the TSB fixes it or not.

[@blackbox3493]

Bro, I have a 2020 5.0 also like you. Mine was burning 3.3 quarters of oil each 5k miles. Ford did the reprogram and changed the oil stick but that did nothing. I was fighting with them and finally they agreed to change my engine. After 7 months of my truck being at the dealership, finally I got my truck back with the new engine. Good luck with yours.

[@bradf3963]

Mine doesn't seem that thirsty for oil, but it's a nuisance to be sure. They did the reprogram thing (which fixed the rough downshifts) and the dipstick thing and oil consumption is down but not good in my opinion. They told me that "spec" was a quart per 2000 miles, mine is about a quart per 3000 after they applied the "fix". My 2018 Edge burns no oil between changes, nor does the 2022 Maverick in my fleet. I did get the 150k warranty so if it blows up they can put a new engine in it. Was it at the dealer the entire 7 months? @@blackbox3493

[@squangan]

Gotta throw this out there. My 14 year old 5.4 goes oil change to oil change without using a drop of oil and still runs as quietly as the day I bought it new with no major issues in that time ! For a motor with such a bad rep I sure got a good one but proper maintenance from day one has been key.

[@jpete3027666]

that is surprising to me...I would guess many people experience problems with these engines because they're doing 10k mile oil changes, although I have heard of them having issues with good maintenance too...my buddy is a Ford mechanic and every coyote or ecoboost engine he sees with issues has a lot of sludge build up

[@williamboquist4090]

I have the 2018 version of the engine, and the oil consumption is as you describe. I wish Ford had told me about it instead of letting me discover it (belatedly) by myself. Other than that, the engine has been trouble-free. However, I believe the ten-speed transmission has a "slushy" feel to it that the six-speed it replaced did not have. I wish I could have ordered a manual - I would have accepted a small loss of mpg for it.

[@tombatha1182]

I bought a new 2023 150, 5L. Changed oil at 10K miles. Exactly 5 qts came out.

[@mikeraftis6332]

My 2011 5.0 is fine. Has way less issues than the 2018 I have. MAF sensors are full of oil from engine sucking oil from PCV. Put on a catch can. Oil consumption is a major problem on 2018.

[@vegetable206]

I have a gen 2 coyote 2015 f150. I'm not seeing any of these problems, guess I'm just lucky. But I use it for a work truck I've had no problems yet.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

People seem to be having really good luck with the first and second gen engine! Glad the engine is running well!

[@f2cmadmaxx]

Interestingly, this engine had it's oil viscosity changed in Australia after 1 year of running it there, from 5w20 to 5w30. Ford changed it from in NA from 5w20 to 5w30 with the 4th gen - seems they know it should run 5w30, but no longer need the MPG gain from 20 now they have cylinder deactivation.

[@trackpackgt877]

You're absolutely right if you look in the owner's manual it recommends if u live in a hot climate or tow running 5w30 and if you talk to mechanics or Ford engineers they recommend 5w30 the 5w20 is just to thin especially when towing or running the 5.0 hard

[@f2cmadmaxx]

@@trackpackgt877 In the US, they are not allowed to say that in the manual (for the most part) as it's forbidden as part of the CAFE agreement.

[@trackpackgt877]

@@f2cmadmaxx oh thats weird my gt manual says 5w30 for racing towing or severe Duty and 5w20 for fuel mileage. That's why I assumed they all said it maybe my car came from out of the states. thanks for the info

[@f2cmadmaxx]

@@trackpackgt877 Oh, yes the Mustang manual contains other info for 'track use' and that's allowed, but it also should say switch back to 20 as soon as you're off the track. The engine will run a 50, also mentioned in the manual.

[@trackpackgt877]

@@f2cmadmaxx A 50 weight I didn't see that I really only glanced at it seen i could run 5w30 and then I ended up switching. So then I dug into a little bit more and seen about the cafe ratings or whatever there called then a friend of mine has a F-150 he said it recommends 5w30 when towing but like you said recommend switching right back to 5w20 when not towing. Point of it is that leads me to believe a 5w 30 is better for these motors I really appreciate the info buddy and enjoyed the conversation

[@jamestone265]

My 2018 used oil, right on the ragged edge of engine replacement. Changed from 5-20 oil to 5-30 and the problem went away. Always use MotorCraft semisynthetic.

[@rickkrueger399]

I have a 2019 XLT 5.0. I had oil consumption issue and 2 dealers told me losing 3 quarts for 3000 miles was normal. The 3rd dealer said they knew the issue and replaced the dipstick type and something with the filler. Now I don't lose any noticable amount

[@rlhh4]

Any thoughts on the wet belt driving the oil pump in these engines now?

[@zanew07]

I have a 2021 F-150 that I have to add oil between oil changes. My dealership has an oil consumption test and will be starting that on the next oil change. I do haul an 8,000lb travel trailer sometimes that may be causing the excess consumption.