The real Derry girls and the peace walls that divide their city

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The Guardian

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@Hongaars1969
@Hongaars1969 6 ай бұрын
The ironies of “the peace wall”. Great initiative ladies. The world needs more women like you.
@quantumblurrr
@quantumblurrr 4 ай бұрын
No irony really, it stopped a lot of direct violence. Crazy that some people still want it up in 2024 though
@gavintuesday4959
@gavintuesday4959 Ай бұрын
Either you haven’t a clu of the purpose of the peace walls in NI and what they have achieved (ie kept people safe ) or you don’t understand what the word irony means . Either what , the first sentence of your statement is ridiculous
@gavintuesday4959
@gavintuesday4959 Ай бұрын
It’s an empty gesture, those around the Fountain estate and the waterside have no interest
@theredhairedchild944
@theredhairedchild944 7 ай бұрын
The youth doing their best to bring Derry together 🙌
@UnorganisedChaos
@UnorganisedChaos 6 ай бұрын
I’m not from Northern Ireland but I would say it has possibly one of the most interesting and fascinatingly saddest stories in modern history. Some of the fairest people and most integral people in the world on BOTH sides of the fence.
@gavintuesday4959
@gavintuesday4959 Ай бұрын
Please stop talking bollox . The stupidity is insulting . Fair ? Unionsits ? This is a city that they Gerrymandered for 50 years and they put up a big fight to keep it that way. Sadly it took 13 and more deaths before the British enforced reform The current DUP have shown no interest in sharing government
@vimokkha
@vimokkha Жыл бұрын
Born and raised in Derry but haven't lived there for decades. Kudos to The Guardian for this great documentary and insight into where things are at. Thoughts are with the people of the Fountain and the Bog-side and all those working for reconciliation and a better future. It isn't always easy to find the common humanity when the old narratives, perpetuated by darker forces, continue to persist. Hopefully, the light will prevail so that the suffering may have a chance to abate. Such a noble thing would be for the benefit of the world in the broadest sense.
@jooseppielleese7156
@jooseppielleese7156 4 ай бұрын
Orange marches make it so they never will
@TheLastAngryMan01
@TheLastAngryMan01 Жыл бұрын
Fair play to Kyra and Rachel, a very worthy project they've created to bring people together.
@BagenB00
@BagenB00 7 ай бұрын
As derry girls never goes into the history, ita really great to learn more about this topic. its overlooked entirely by the english curriculum
@fluffin4bean
@fluffin4bean Ай бұрын
Of course it does. When one’s history is nothing but unjust bloodshed, they tend to deny and forget. I’m from the US. It’s the same over here.
@Marie0575
@Marie0575 Жыл бұрын
Not many kids around the UK know about the conflict in Northern Ireland, to think it not taught in schoos and it happened untiI the 1990s. I hope something is done, and hope this is the beginning.
@aidygooner
@aidygooner Жыл бұрын
The British school curriculum intentionally doesn't teach the gaping wounds the British Empire have left very close to their borders let alone the world such as the Middle East. Until we're honest with our history and acknowledge the serious wrongdoings, that's when people will actually move on from the past.
@Dheuedbv
@Dheuedbv 4 ай бұрын
@@aidygoonerthey’ll only teach it when it’s old hat, like India, by which point nobody will care. That’s what their like
@BrookieWookieBee
@BrookieWookieBee 5 ай бұрын
Im in America and the same age as the characters and was in high school in the 90s. I remember a lot of the events of The Troubles and honestly thought everything was settled. I had no idea there are still issues. These women are doing great work trying to resolve what they can.
@RobertMorris-es2mf
@RobertMorris-es2mf 3 ай бұрын
It cannot ever be settled until ireland is united, and the English leave Ireland to be one. It's own country top to bottom , as it should be.
@fluffin4bean
@fluffin4bean Ай бұрын
@@RobertMorris-es2mfexactly. Don’t occupy and you won’t be resisted.
@theredhairedchild944
@theredhairedchild944 7 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a follow up to this @the guardian. To know how the men got on
@akirebara
@akirebara 6 ай бұрын
Me too. Hoping they were able to got some folks to see how illogical that wall is. I got a tour there while I was in Northern Ireland before the pandemic. Even the tour guide is hopeful that that wall will come down before he dies.
@matildatillberg3620
@matildatillberg3620 4 ай бұрын
I love seeing the real people in places depicted on the screen. They’re endlessly more fascinating and something way more to connect to than any thought up character could ever be.
@haeuptlingaberja4927
@haeuptlingaberja4927 4 ай бұрын
Aye, but it really was a brilliant show all the same. It managed to bring the nature of living in an environment of sectarian violence to a much, much wider world...not that there's exactly a shortage of sectarianism and senseless violence in the world today.
@gavintuesday4959
@gavintuesday4959 Ай бұрын
Many of these girls weren’t born during the era when the tv show was based on and if they were, they were toddlers .they experienced next to none of it , thankfully So, what you blathered on about is utter nonsense
@matildatillberg3620
@matildatillberg3620 Ай бұрын
@@gavintuesday4959 What I was referring to was that it was based on true people that existed in that place, not that the actors were there themselves (that would be silly, wouldn’t it?). I was taking about it being based on reality and not complete fiction. It’s alright though, sometimes you misunderstand things.
@Kanal7Indonesia
@Kanal7Indonesia 3 ай бұрын
This still happening now is mindblowing
@kjam1709
@kjam1709 6 ай бұрын
I am a Gen X'r, so I grew up in the States watching news clips about the bombings. It was not until I went to Belfast a couple of weeks ago that I truly began to understand about the conflict, how close in the neighborhoods are in Northern Ireland and the immense toll of the violence. Where can I donate to the peace & reconciliation efforts highlighted in this documentary?
@alexa4257
@alexa4257 5 ай бұрын
Visiting Belfast from the States in 2022 was a huge eyeopener for me. And it definitely informed my thoughts on Israel/Palestine as well. This piece was wonderful and I wish these women much continued success.
@OkieTLB
@OkieTLB 5 ай бұрын
I see in the description that the peace barrier initiative is supported by the International Fund for Ireland. I too am an American Gen X’r, but understood very little of the “Troubles”. I will be in Northern Ireland for 5 nights in early October. We’ll be visiting Derry and Belfast. I have been educating myself on the tensions that still exist. I hope to gain more knowledge while there.
@markbeecroft-stretton3314
@markbeecroft-stretton3314 7 ай бұрын
I hadn't appreciated that "Peace Walls" existed outside of Belfast - aka a segregation we British imposed on the people in the North as part of a wider 800 year occupation. I just hope we see a peaceful reunification of the island of Ireland in my lifetime as the north has been largely ignored by Westminster, Dublin AND Stormont.
@simonwiggins8570
@simonwiggins8570 7 ай бұрын
We British imposed your talking nonsense. To make such a comment you clearly have no concept of the realities in NI.
@markbeecroft-stretton3314
@markbeecroft-stretton3314 7 ай бұрын
@@simonwiggins8570 I didn't, for one moment, imply that I do understand the full complexities of the North. This part of history is not taught in schools - nor are the other atrocities perpetrated in the Empire's former "colonies". The fact remains that the British have occupied and "plantationed" the island since the reign of the Tudors. What are the "realities" I have no concept of, from your viewpoint?
@DerrySky
@DerrySky 5 ай бұрын
Bravo! Well said.
Ай бұрын
@@markbeecroft-stretton3314 yeah that’s bs
@asiabrew81
@asiabrew81 5 ай бұрын
I was fortunate enough to visit Derry last year and was made aware by a resident that part of the issue may lie in the fact that only 11% of the schools are integrated. Its one thing to be on the outside of an issue trying to change it and people's minds, from there, its another thing when it grows from within from each successive generation because of people changing their minds and old prejudices fall away from mundane daily interactions with "the other".
@cm1642
@cm1642 5 ай бұрын
Organized religion and the need to push those beliefs on others has been the downfall of all mankind.
@kmallory100
@kmallory100 4 ай бұрын
"Two different flavors of same religion" Katya from Derry Girls
@flawyerlawyertv7454
@flawyerlawyertv7454 7 ай бұрын
I didn't wall such walls existed in Northern Ireland. It's a real surprise to me. 😮
@flawyerlawyertv7454
@flawyerlawyertv7454 7 ай бұрын
31st March 2024. 11:07 / 11:08
@SeaninoEaghra
@SeaninoEaghra 3 ай бұрын
As kids, we played in a wooded area near the Foyle road. Our jungle... I did this myself. This brought back some memories I can tell you
@abignothing
@abignothing 4 ай бұрын
these women are doing such great work! reconciliation is such hard work but it is needed these days more than ever in this world
@sbor2020
@sbor2020 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic community work they are doing in Derry. Good luck to you all.
@jennaolbermann7663
@jennaolbermann7663 3 ай бұрын
I’m an American and have some memory of hearing about the troubles in Northern Ireland as a child. I have watched Derry Girls on Britbox and was very impressed by this look at Derry.
@vishaalbhatnagar3924
@vishaalbhatnagar3924 Жыл бұрын
Such a thoughtful project. My family are big fans of 'Derry Girls' ❤
@SoaringWings
@SoaringWings 5 ай бұрын
I hope that both communities are able to come to terms with the effects of british settler-colonialism in northern ireland and are able to eventually take down the peace walls and the border itself, so that settler and indigenous can live together in a better decolonized future.
@YogeshJhala-du8xg
@YogeshJhala-du8xg Жыл бұрын
Excellent initiative. Best of luck to both of you .
@hannofranz7973
@hannofranz7973 Жыл бұрын
Interesting documentary on a great project. Unfortunately, you haven't given enough time to read the texts.
@darrenharkin1421
@darrenharkin1421 11 ай бұрын
press pause
@leoobroin3804
@leoobroin3804 7 ай бұрын
Amazing. Good on you girls.
@PapagenoMF
@PapagenoMF 4 ай бұрын
Interesting but needs subtitles.
@pechaa
@pechaa 4 ай бұрын
There is a little box in the upper right-hand corner of your screen with the letters "CC" inside. Tap that. Voila -- closed captions!
@TommyS61867
@TommyS61867 2 ай бұрын
The women are inspirational
@mnj640
@mnj640 7 ай бұрын
Politics and religion have a lot to answer for
@perlaarrebatada9726
@perlaarrebatada9726 Жыл бұрын
Este es el espiritu de trabajp necesario para dejar en el pasado los odios generados durante decadas, si no mas, de conflicto. Es un trabajo de hormigas: un granito, otro granito, etc. Solo asi con el ejemplo, con actos concretos, el dialogo, el testmonio de quienes vieron y sufrieron toda esta violencia y con mucha paciencia puede producirse un cambio. Ademas por iniciativa de mujeres que han visto a sus, hijos, padres, hermanos, parientes, amigos, segurame te resultar directamente afectados p incluso morir en medio de esa violencia. Adicionalm3ente el gobier o británico tiene una inmensa responsabilidad en toda esa construccion de odio y nunca la ha reconocido completamente.
@fdavidmiller2
@fdavidmiller2 4 ай бұрын
Another reason why religion is nothing but a hindrance to humanity. 🙄
@literallyjen
@literallyjen 2 ай бұрын
Fact
@hangableautobulbbot
@hangableautobulbbot 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant
@ikbolhonshukhratova889
@ikbolhonshukhratova889 4 ай бұрын
Seeing Ireland and Palestine sign is just beautiful
@michelle5042
@michelle5042 8 ай бұрын
I love derry
@David-b1i2h
@David-b1i2h Жыл бұрын
You haven't lived there for decades where do you live now
@gouravmisra2317
@gouravmisra2317 Жыл бұрын
WATCHING FROM INDIA MA'AM
@badbenito
@badbenito 6 ай бұрын
Put up another Fionnula's Fish & Chips. Food brings people together.
@robertobertino6227
@robertobertino6227 Ай бұрын
Cattolici & protestanti devono dialogare... Give peace a change...
@ksy4747
@ksy4747 6 ай бұрын
It still cracks me up... its the same fkin religion, guys!!!!
@dariacislo8072
@dariacislo8072 4 ай бұрын
I feel like religion is just an excuse. It's more Irish Vs British...
@siriussemajo9699
@siriussemajo9699 3 ай бұрын
This. I mean, I don’t want to trivialise their feelings but they say ‘different religions’ but it’s different denominations under the same religion.
@ConnbineHarvester
@ConnbineHarvester 3 ай бұрын
It's more the British occupation of Irish land that's the real problem though.
@Wolfhound223
@Wolfhound223 Жыл бұрын
Watching from Skeoge :P
@philcudworth8491
@philcudworth8491 7 ай бұрын
The accents 😊❤
@QueenkittyNi
@QueenkittyNi 6 ай бұрын
i heard all of these towns cause of shanes music 🎶🎵
@ariebrons7976
@ariebrons7976 6 ай бұрын
Is this some sort of apartheid wall?
@pechaa
@pechaa 4 ай бұрын
Yes.
@ariebrons7976
@ariebrons7976 4 ай бұрын
@@pechaa So Ireland is an apartheid state?
@Joyride37
@Joyride37 4 ай бұрын
@@ariebrons7976Google “the Troubles” mate. It’s too complicated to summarize in a KZbin comment
@geemo4284
@geemo4284 4 ай бұрын
No, apartheid was, specifically, a tool to keep perceived ‘inferior’ races apart from the white settlers of South Africa. Those Africans who worked in the so called White areas were kept apart from their own people. Services, schools, healthcare, shops, religious institutions, social institutions were all designed to be separate, and the system was designed to make sure the black tribes of South Africa stayed disempowered and without any political, social or economic power. The wall in Northern Ireland was built as a desperate measure to get the violence under control, during the troubles, so that normal people could go about their lives without becoming victims of the violence. I don’t think it was, necessarily, perceived to be a long term solution, but as a short term emergency measure.
@ariebrons7976
@ariebrons7976 4 ай бұрын
@@geemo4284 Thank you for having such common sence, may I use your reply against Terrorist Sympathizers?
@haeuptlingaberja4927
@haeuptlingaberja4927 4 ай бұрын
Religion and colonialism--what could possibly go wrong?
@wintersnowowen2254
@wintersnowowen2254 7 ай бұрын
I live about 20 miles from Derry and had a really peaceful and tranquil childhood. The scenes in this video are completely foreign to me. Not saying this isn’t their lived experience just saying that a lot of people in NI had relatively peaceful childhood.
@reknakfarg
@reknakfarg 7 ай бұрын
depends on where you live, lots of people in rural ukraine won't notice the war either
@wintersnowowen2254
@wintersnowowen2254 7 ай бұрын
@@reknakfarg most of NI isn’t like Derry.
@anthonym3351
@anthonym3351 6 ай бұрын
It seems like everything in NI is very divided
@tonylynch.4563
@tonylynch.4563 7 ай бұрын
👍
@FLASH-MATT
@FLASH-MATT 5 ай бұрын
I hope that the younger generation will learn to keep religions out of their lives. Spirituality is way better than being in a sect. Life is made to be free and learn from others, not to stay in a prison and only talk and meet with members of the same sect.
@Joyride37
@Joyride37 4 ай бұрын
The more indigenous worldviews of us being related to all the land, trees, and animals makes more sense anyway. It’s quite literal given evolution and how we do actually share dna to a degree. And it brings a sense of reverence, respect, and responsibility recognizing youre part of an ecosystem and play a role in it
@FLASH-MATT
@FLASH-MATT 4 ай бұрын
@@Joyride37 Clearly, I fully agree. The more we feel connected together, thru nature, culture or humanity, the more we destroy the walls.
@reviewsreviewer
@reviewsreviewer Жыл бұрын
Brits out.. that will fix the issue
@theearthguy1814
@theearthguy1814 8 ай бұрын
so your only solution is deportation of an entire denomination?
@davidblack7968
@davidblack7968 7 ай бұрын
So you are telling the people in the Fountain Estate who identify as British to "get out"
@pechaa
@pechaa 4 ай бұрын
All the British are welcome to stay, but under home rule. Reunite the Republic of Ireland.
@davidblack7968
@davidblack7968 4 ай бұрын
@@pechaa a separate homeland and identity for the ulster Scots is what is needed
@jooseppielleese7156
@jooseppielleese7156 4 ай бұрын
@@davidblack7968 Ulster Scots aren't a thing the people who claim that are neither Scotttish or of Ulster unless they are soup takers.
@traceysmith9264
@traceysmith9264 Ай бұрын
go c ya padre
@seanbuchanan5402
@seanbuchanan5402 5 ай бұрын
Religion
@zmat331
@zmat331 5 ай бұрын
Their streets look so clean. Not like here in the us where you see trash everywhere you step
@traceysmith9264
@traceysmith9264 Ай бұрын
tunker taylor solder maker
@inmydarkesthour2278
@inmydarkesthour2278 5 ай бұрын
Imagine a novel ruining lives
@pechaa
@pechaa 4 ай бұрын
What novel? It was the British.
@Happy_HIbiscus
@Happy_HIbiscus Ай бұрын
😲😲😲😲
@sandersson2813
@sandersson2813 Жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland must be about the least aspirational place in Europe.
@dessy76
@dessy76 Жыл бұрын
Ever been to England?
@sandersson2813
@sandersson2813 Жыл бұрын
@@dessy76 Yes, of course, but NI is famous for virtually nothing which is positive.
@dessy76
@dessy76 Жыл бұрын
@@sandersson2813 Have you ever visited NI?
@dessy76
@dessy76 Жыл бұрын
@@sandersson2813 Ever watch Game of Thrones?
@sandersson2813
@sandersson2813 Жыл бұрын
@@dessy76 Yes. Very few redeeming features
@jooseppielleese7156
@jooseppielleese7156 5 ай бұрын
Why is there no focus on the men?
@brookewilliams1451
@brookewilliams1451 4 ай бұрын
There is, near the end of the video there is a men’s group meeting
@sabinecastelein1
@sabinecastelein1 7 ай бұрын
Atheism is the solution
@pechaa
@pechaa 4 ай бұрын
Democracy is the solution.
@andrewmosher-le6ct
@andrewmosher-le6ct 6 ай бұрын
Ireland and Palestine "One Struggle". Same brand of antisemitism.
@A.E.Segura
@A.E.Segura 6 ай бұрын
NOT.
@DerrySky
@DerrySky 5 ай бұрын
If opposing oppression, ethnic cleansing and genocide is being antisemitic, then yes we are!
@Joyride37
@Joyride37 4 ай бұрын
@@DerrySkynot the hot take you think it is friend. You can be against oppression and genocide without being antisemitic. Solidarity across all oppressed groups is the answer
@aaa_7532
@aaa_7532 4 ай бұрын
the self victimisation is embarrassing, get a grip
@cedricliggins7528
@cedricliggins7528 6 ай бұрын
We could use walls in the US to sesparate neighborhoods. Safe from unsafe
@Joyride37
@Joyride37 4 ай бұрын
The point went straight over your head
@Unknown-ut6dn
@Unknown-ut6dn 10 ай бұрын
Can anyone help to find accommodation in Derry. I am an international student and coming in the mid of January. Plzzz reply anyone who have rental room or accommodation or u can help to provide any contact for accommodation. I will be so great ful.
@jemparingansambisena2702
@jemparingansambisena2702 Жыл бұрын
Wait, do you think cryptocurrency will crash? I dont think so. More and more companies are integrating cryptocurrency into their operations: Amazon, Cannafarm Ltd, Burger King, even Starbucks, dude!
@DublinMarc
@DublinMarc 10 ай бұрын
Here in dublin people couldn't care less what your religion is . That said, i know Northern Irelands circumstances are totally different to ours
@Kanal7Indonesia
@Kanal7Indonesia 4 ай бұрын
The difference is in Dublin there are no more Brits
@confudeddude
@confudeddude 6 ай бұрын
800 years of trying to master the native Irish. FAILED😊😊😊😊 English Imperialism has failed miserably. Time to leave. 😊
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