Is the Fiio FT1 pro REALLY that good?

[@ResolveReviews]

Sorry for the bad mic quality on this one. I had just set this up and didn't have time to put together a proper mic setup for filming this. This is also possibly the worst lav in existence

[@metal571]

Not having a condenser mic in-shot is almost confusing lolol

[@KristianK42]

@ResolveReviews you say "modal" or "length mode" a lot. What does it mean? A resonance? Peace!

[@TVEE]

Oh.

[@ResolveReviews]

@@KristianK42 'Length mode' refers to resonance typically to do with the air volume for the ear canal when using IEMs. 'Modal' is often used to refer to more resonant properties of a transducer, so... a highly damped driver will likely be less modal, and an undamped driver will likely be more modal for example.

[@KristianK42]

@@ResolveReviews thank you very much for the explanation, much appreciated :)

[@marcgii]

I really like this review format. The more perspectives you can offer, the better.

[@capraaudio]

Thanks for the shout out guys!

[@tomlin9539]

Welp, if you check FiiO's product release road map, they plans to release the FT7, their next flagship early next year. Which they estimate will be priced around 1000USD range. Honestly really interested what they gonna be able to pull off after they did so well in FT1 line up.

[@dustydynasty802]

Hoping Resolve reviews the FT1 closed back and makes a video about it

[@Spyrozzz]

17:20 Hold on, are you saying they’re even more detailed than the Hifiman Sundara? That’s incredible! In Europe, these headphones are priced at just €230 compared to the Sundara’s €350. Imagine getting the same, or even better, sound quality for significantly less. Plus, they come with two cables and a carrying case. If that’s true, it’s absolutely a game changer! 🎧💥

[@pigmanny]

this thumbnail scares me

[@ResolveReviews]

It should.

[@danielp121]

More videos like this please (if possible) where there are 2 reviewers exchanging their thoughts on a product. 👏

[@rem792]

Yes, best format so far!

[@AliArghavan]

DMS + Resolve' Excellent reviewer combo. I really like this format.

[@Chris-qs5rt]

How would you compare these with the Aune AR5000?

[@themastroiannis]

great review...thanks! i do have the sundaras and the Ft1 closed.... one thing i really like of the ft1 (without eq) is the bass extension; way more 'palpable' and extended than the sundaras. for that reason and the fact if keeps a pretty balanced overall presentation i find if more useful for my mixing purposes than the sundaras....shocking, but true. (by the way, i also own a pair of sennheiser HD600 which i absolutely love for their intimate presentation and lovely natural mids, but again, weirdly, i find my mixes translate better to other equipment when done on the ft1.... hmmmmm....

[@martingodske3301]

Haha, I just got mine yesterday. I love them so much

[@the_rs43]

Didn't notice how similar the 490 pro and the momentum 4 look till now. woah

[@MoonshineBeforeSunshine]

Will there be a "measurements and official discussion" page for the DT 1990 Pro MK2 on the website?

[@FunFiEmpire]

I like the review format - it is really a good conversation. I would greatly appreciate links or suggestions for the headphone strap and the pads you settled on / suggestions linked in the description. I love my Edition XS (esp. the $270 price) but the hot spot is really bugging me. A good strap would do a world of good, and the fact I could use it on multiple sets would be great.

[@MatthewDiFazio]

0:58 I watch the headphone show for the plot

[@ToysForTheGods]

I personally love to pad swap, I have an entire tote full of various pads, so that makes this compelling to me. I do feel like the Edition XS tend to EQ really well, but I can't really pad swap those unless I buy Dekoni, which is fine but there isn't a budget option for that headphone. I can almost guarantee that I have a set of pads in my tote that would make the FT-1 pro sound better at a sub $10 price point. I am now going to have to buy a pair just to play with them.

[@mehmetgurdal]

You know this thumbnail is actually genius. İt highlights the headsize difference between you guys.

[@protobrv]

really enjoying these collab review, reviewers supplementing and disagreeing with each other when necessary keep this review very useful and interesting to watch, especially when the hobby is a subjectivity driven one.

[@brandondapro]

Yeah, one thing they seem to agree is not reviewing the actual product… they both have different pads on that cost a significant % of the headphone itself. This isn’t a review of the FT1 Pro.

[@iisakei2369]

I didn't like it in stock condition, but I replaced the pads based on this video and it's great. Thanks!

[@37000]

which ones?

[@iisakei2369]

@@37000 I use a cheap generic leather pads for AKG 55x(105mm). I think they're probably sharing parts with the FT1 to cut costs, so I hope they'll include dedicated pads if this sells well.

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

Genuinely so thrilled to be getting good competition from more brands.

[@benlee1035]

Was wondering where to find the headband strap replacement that DMS was using?

[@fifteenbongos]

capraaudio

[@tonycheung1559]

your review is spot on

[@davidbarbour5153]

Great discussion.........really keen to get a link to alternative pads as mentioned . thanks

[@stevenmctowelie416]

Where is the Link for the Pad Swap Measurements?

[@blackinkster]

Appreciate two takes 👍

[@KevinWuOfficial]

Is the new Dunu Arashi review coming soon?

[@ResolveReviews]

Probably not. I'll be doing a forum post with measurements eventually. It... has some issues unfortunately.

[@tracycrum3788]

@capraaudio, which of your straps is best for the FIIO FT1 Pro?

[@BAAa-tw7lo]

I'm on Hifiman He400SE stealth, and I listen primarily to techno and ambient music. I have an Aune X1 Dac. Will Fiiio FT1 Pro be a nice improveent for me? My budget can stretch to at least 500-600 dollars.

[@devils_shadow]

Recently switched from a HE400SE (terrible build quality) to a pair of Fiio FT5. I drive them using an ifi zen dac v2. The FT5's are a sleeper in the industry as far as I can see, not a lot of attention on them but they are superb. Build quality is excellent, the bass is exceptional without being overwhelming. This is the first pair of headphones that I don't feel like equalizing. They are not neutral headphones and on the warmer side, but they are excellent for non-critical listening. I listen to synthwave/techno/EDM/Dubstep and game on them and they are what I'd call end-game for me. Look them up.

[@BAAa-tw7lo]

@devils_shadow appreciated!

[@GadZookz]

Nobody said plethora!👍🏼

[@FisherMan-bh9dn]

Thanks for the warning.

[@GadZookz]

@ Yup, plethora is one of those boutique words that is used so rampantly it is in danger of being used up. Conservation is well advised for the next 27 months.

[@darekk7459]

How do these headphones compare to the Meze 105 AER, Sivga p2 Pro and Sivga SV023? I suppose the Fiio FT1 Pro are worse/cheaper made, but what about the sound, is it worth paying a little more for the 105 or one of the Sivgas? I am also considering buying the Hifiman HE6SE V2 which is probably a class above in many respects, but I am discouraged by the fact that they are heavy and uncomfortable (and yes, I know, an efficient amplifier is necessary). I mainly care about good quality, low punching bass and nice holography and spatiality (I listen mainly to ambient, downtempo and experimental electronica).

[@areitz1962]

I dont have any Planars, but have the 6xx (love them). Should i make these my 1st Planars?

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

I would like to point out, I've made a suspension strap with just a loop of fabric and 2 strings, attached to the same points as the capra strap? Shipping for the capra strap was nuts where I am and this fabric solution 100% fixed my comfort issue.

[@jackpytleski7750]

Solid effort

[@arokis9185]

Love this headphones and know when I saw that it’s nice base for mods make me happier!

[@calvinyip364]

How does it compare to edition xs?

[@SiegwardZwiebelbrudi]

if you want soundstage, this one isn't for you.

[@export2file]

Especially regarding fit and comfort that is my question

[@Zysperro]

@@SiegwardZwiebelbrudi is it more intimate? I personally don't like wide soundstage, I like feeling like I'm in the front row or right next to the instruments. How does it compare to Sundara tho?

[@calvinyip364]

​@@SiegwardZwiebelbrudi How about the details retrieval and resolution? Compare to the X's?

[@Anomalyn1]

Not all people can wear Edition XS

[@WatchVirtrinous]

You can mod it though

[@jonji-kz2nz]

I was thinking about buying it but it seems too big for small/medium heads

[@bribrishyguy6516]

Could always get the Capra strap ​@@jonji-kz2nz

[@Anomalyn1]

@@jonji-kz2nz me too man, me too...

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Not all can wield it's power

[@timschutte3961]

What strap did you buy for these headphones..?

[@JPX728]

It was slightly mentioned but would it be better to buy these at $250 with some pads or strap to make them better or get the Hifiman edition XS at $270 now or maybe even the Sundara at $229? Asking as a hobbyist that just enjoys music and powering off Questyle M15i that DMS recommended for simple set up that could power the hifi headphones and probably the Fiio. Wish i could try the three to pick my favorite but doesn't always work that way. I listen to all kinds of music, Vocal Rock, Rap, Trance, Country Jazz Spanish Music etc.

[@angelofbliss]

how does the review change if you add a DAC , like a creative g8 ?

[@FearlessP4P1]

Is this the best planar magnetic headphone at the price range of $200? Is there something way better that cost $50-100 more? I’ve been wanting to try planer magnetics for the longest now. This one and the 7hz timeless piqued my interest.

[@dominikalbers6983]

I had the 6xx and the Edition XS and iam listening to this on the FT1Pro and for me its my favorit of the 3. I swaped the Pads to Dekoni Fenestrated Leather. The Sound is great for me. The cable is awful, just way to stiff. I bought a Tripowin one 50€, much softer.

[@bryangel9979]

How would you compare the XS to the FT1 pro? Which has the best bass slam? Thanks.

[@dominikalbers6983]

@bryangel9979 i did not listen to them side by side. I think there is not huge difference in the bass. The FT1Pro "seals" a bit closer around my ear than the Edition XS did, the XS sounded bigger but also a bit brighter. The FT1Pro i a bit darker in the upper treble which shifts the attention more in the mids/bass. Niether is a real slam Monster both are pretty linear.

[@areitz1962]

I really wanted to check out the MM100. Shame to hear this is better but I guess thats a good thing with the price being half as much

[@SuperEnforcer88]

Where you did get the strap?

[@subbybass1432]

I can't send links, but if you search for "Capra Audio comfort strap" on google, you'll find it :D

[@rem792]

Capra Audio

[@troupsterT]

Is there anywhere we can purchase this suspension strap that you have conjured up? I'd love to put one on my FT1.

[@tradiopen]

That's capra audio's strap, search for "capra audio fiio ft1"

[@TheRealAstro_]

Is this going to have better build quality and QC than the Edition XS? Otherwise might as well get the XS and replace the headband

[@AnbuReckz]

QC with HiFiMan is a mixed bag you might get a good pair you might not.

[@WyattOShea]

@@AnbuReckz Maybe I've just been lucky with the ones I've owned (original he400 and sundara). Both had no sound or build quality issues whilst I owned them. I just got rid of them because I wasn't the biggest fan of the sound.

[@rem792]

We don't know yet, it's just a matter of time. All I can say is I haven't been very happy with the build quality of their IEMs but that was a few years ago now. I had two cables break and the mmcx connections failed too

[@FenrirAlter]

Hifiman build quality is ass. Considering the hifimans original cost or even the arya stealth original cost it is kinda insane how they got beaten build quality wise by so many headphones half their price.

[@alex.nadiradze]

FT1 Pro or HD 490 for critical listening and production/mixing? (I need good bass representation)

[@planteaoteo1623]

Do you guys have a brand/model for a velour pads that fit these Fiio ft1 pro and still maintains or enhances the sound quality please?

[@herseyberry4655]

I think these guys need a blind headphone test. Take their 3 favorite song, and score 10 headphones then decide on the top three. The limiting factor is they have to be played on the same amp. Once you use different amps,the test is garbage. I definitely kown that tube versus solid state can widely affect sound. Even solid state amps make differences in performance.

[@n0xt]

They will easily recognize them by weight, shape, materials etc. which will make the test no longer blind.

[@marcelussilva8857]

FT1 Pro or Aune Ar5000 in sound quality?

[@marcelussilva8857]

Who is better in sound quality: Mondrop Para, Sivga Anser, Aune Ar5000 or FT1 Pro?

[@ODIOPOWER]

capper strap link ??

[@calvinyip364]

How is the sound stage?

[@herseyberry4655]

I still want to know who designed the Phillips SHP 9500. That person is a genius ! A cheap open back for the masses. I broke it after 4 years, falling asleep in my bed.If you put thick leather pads on it 110cm by 80 cm, it's a banger, just like my Superlux 688b. Does anybody know who makes replacement pads for the Monoprice 560 ? I went to thier website, the pads no longer in stock.

[@fugazister]

my oh my resolve whats with the mic?

[@FisherMan-bh9dn]

He forgot to bring it into the same room with him.

[@edkulzer8723]

The greatness of this review bulges. What are those pads at 1:53? Beautiful!

[@VegettoQ61]

Resolve is using the ZMF Universe Suede Pads, and DMF is using Dekoni Audio Choice Suede Replacement Ear Pads for the Audeze LCD Series.

[@625jaketron]

I believe in that particular shot they are the stock pads that come on the FT1 Pro, tho both DMS and Resolve said they prefer the others the other reply mentioned

[@hifitommy]

NICE moustache DMS ! well i had to buy the FT-1s after hearing them at CanJam SoCal and watching your recommendations. the strap will be ordered soon but you may have forced my hand to get the Pros as well. i had to give the HE4XXs a shelf low end boost to get the suggestion of true low bass (smom of you call it sub-bass) and after its headband failure, I snagged a strap aftermarket band from APOS 😇. Now because I really like planar reproduction and I am CHEAP and the Pros have a similar deep bass reach like the FT-1, I will likely put the $200 out for them. my next improvement has to be the wires. i am surprised you both aren't complaining about the microphonic character of the fabric covered wires on the FT-1. the wire on the Eris was exquisite, unlike its over-fat mid-bass. Zeos recorded his cash refund to me which legitimizes his honesty about the situation. back to the wire. that flexible and attractive cable is right up my alley as long as I can get something similar at a really affordable price. Aune has one but I prefer XLR to Pentaconn as both of my DAC/AMPS have XLR but only my xDuuo TA-22 only has Penticon, my Monolith THX doesn't. i hope I can get my issues RESOLVEd 🤓

[@kroses13]

Is resolve using accentum plus?

[@balllovewow]

Do I need to sell my MM-100 and get these instead ? any advice ?

[@JamesAlexanderFoxhal]

You don't need to do anything. If you enjoy them then that's all that matters. It's about the music after all.

[@hartyewh1]

Would love to hear a comparison with HE400se Stealth. Both with EQ as well. Sundara is imo rather overpriced when XS is almost the same price and HE400se Stealth is so close with perhaps better bass performance or more engaging at least.

[@Mssv2013]

Which has punchier bass, the He400Se, Sundara, or the XS?

[@hartyewh1]

@Mssv2013 I haven't A/B tested HE400se Stealth and Sundara, but from memory Sundara has a bit more tightness to the bass, but much less weight so the former might actually be better in many situations. Edition XS improves other areas more than bass though I would take them over the other two. All this assumes EQ as in what they're capable of and not just stock tuning.

[@lama-lama-lama]

I want that poster. Link please!

[@luismarcoperezthemsel1677]

ey guys so i have a sony xm4 that i coonect via jack to my xlr from el gato and i really want to update just for game and music consumption nothing profesional ive been looking for a dac/amp and i think im going for the magni unity any recommedation for an open back headphone ??

[@brandonburr4900]

Longtime watcher and turker here. I'm sorry. But I stopped watching once BOTH of you swapped out the pads. That's like changing the room for listening to music in a 2 channel system with all the room treatment etc. Or when resolve thinks he needs to eq everything. I didn't stay long enough to find that out. Just review the product as is with all its faults and quirks. Most will not be going through the trouble to go through endless pad swapping . Honestly, today their are so many different pads out there you are only going to confuse your audience.

[@RUMBLEGO1]

Word

[@herseyberry4655]

For real. I basicly stop pad and tube swapping. Budget, Budget, Budget !

[@brandonburr4900]

@herseyberry4655 same here. If folks are swapping and upgrading tubes it's no longer in the same budget or category. Might as well recommend something else. Don't waste the video. And since I'm on a rant I'm getting really tired of seeing basically every headphone (regardless of how good or bad it is) being broken down to the point yoir wondering what did I get out of this video and why am I still watching? That sort of analysis is great and all and we know no one headphone is perfect but each one is being broken down to such a degree you can't differentiate it from the rest easily . Sorry for my rant.

[@2old2steak]

They did a good written review, but this just feels like an extremely disinterested long term impressions vid. It's a weird thing to put out for headphones that most people don't even have yet.

[@nullgator8073]

Nice one

[@emeruen]

6xx keeps breaking the $200 barrier. I don’t like them personally, yes i’ve tried different pads. I just shouldn’t have started out with sennheiser as my first audiophile headphone (i love bass). XS is just a better headphone in my opinion just for the bigger sound

[@RUMBLEGO1]

That replacement pad looks hefty. How does that affect the sound quality? You both put them on but didn't discuss this.

[@devils_shadow]

Why is everyone sleeping on the exceptional Fiio FT5's? It seems like it's the industry's black sheep. Sad as the build quality is superb, the package overall is an amazing offer and sound is awesome as long as it matches your preferred sound profile (or you can just EQ). I know it's mentioned that these are better than the FT5, but how exactly? Price-wise? Sound-wise?

[@ponz3974]

This is a good video format for reviewing headphones.

[@coardtech]

Do ZMF Bokeh and Bokeh Closed please. Maybe Caldera Closed too.

[@zoltantoth1566]

this is very good; more of this please; but just switch off music before recording

[@unafflicted]

holy hell, dms has great taste in music

[@DMS3TV]

Ayeee

[@zeissiez]

The AR5000 is really good too.

[@reallyoldcob]

-1.5 @ 400 Hz -0.5 dB @ 600kHz v transformative on these for me

[@reallyoldcob]

as the biggest Sundara fan in the game - the FT-1 Pro definitely sounds more detailed to me - closer to the XS than the Sundara in terms of “resolution”

[@baaltroth1957]

I died laughing at the beginning... thanks for that

[@Arsonloke]

Definetly not flat headphones. I want to get a pair of Audezes mm100s

[@jackpytleski7750]

Whats better FT1 or FT1 Pro?

[@aight3565]

If you need isolation FT1. If not then FT1 pro

[@FenrirAlter]

They pretty different headphones even if the name suggests otherwise. Ft1 is a dynamic closed back headphone. Which is really good for bass. Meanwhile the ft1 pro is a open back headphone with planar drivers which gives them a bigger soundstage and they are most neutral.

[@audie-cashstack-uk4881]

BULGE THERE ANGLED PADS TO ANGLE THE DRIVERS such a audio phile 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@herseyberry4655]

Let the haters hate, somebody at FIIO has brains, look at their product line. How many are lousy products ?

[@davdidit6]

Never thought that “ bulges” would be any issue in the headphone industry.🤦🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

[@biomechanism1]

The hating on the 660S Never stops 😂

[@SiegwardZwiebelbrudi]

This is not a warmer Edition XS, soundstage differences are night and day between the two. You will read this comparison over and over again, because thats what people think, when they see the FR graph, but the XS is spacious where the FT1 Pro is rather intimate...side the side the XS is on another level, especially after EQ

[@sampokojiin]

driver size and shape basically but not everyone wants a size 14 slipper against the sides of their face

[@Default_Defect]

@@sampokojiin Yeah, I love the sound that come out of my Edition XS, but even with the capra strap and endless reseating, it never feels like I'm wearing it correctly.

[@SiegwardZwiebelbrudi]

@@sampokojiin well yeah, of course. driver size plays a huge role here. i don't get your point. this isn't about wether the FT1 pro are better for your usecase, this is about that they don't come close to the Edition XS. In every discussion about these i read, they are "just like" the XS, which is nonsense. they have a comparable tonality, sure, but so do speakers that are EQed towards a similar target.

[@sampokojiin]

@@SiegwardZwiebelbrudi I guess they can be similar enough subjectively, I guess the reason why they are both being compared and assimilated to each other because the FT1 Pros sit closer in performance to the Xs rather than the Sundaras. FT1 Pros have a more forward midrange like the HD6XX/650 that the Edition Xs doesn't have, but has the same recesses around 1.8khz region which the 6XX/650s don't have. The edition Xs does have a sparklier upper treble but that can be assumed because of the different dampening materials and minor difference in upper frequency tuning. I do get your point though that they don't similar enough for you, but if other people see and interpret the FR's in an objective way then I can see the argument why someone would call the FT1 Pros a warmer Edition Xs. Personally and maybe objectively, the reason why the Edition Xs sounds much different is because of the driver size difference which is another factor to consider because these won't be able to be seated perfectly on an unlucky person's ears and therefore sound subjectively worse. I disagree with my statement being useless lmao. But I get why you would say that. Sorry about wording it too poorly. Anatomy plays a huge part in sound perception.

[@herseyberry4655]

Nit and pick are back.

[@rhalfik]

I'd like to point out that the screws that hold earcups are tiny and they can unscrew or even break under the weight of the earcup with bigger drivers on this headband.

[@Thechosendawg]

selling an XS only has 3 months of use. if anyone is intrested ( too big for my head)

[@herseyberry4655]

Take note: The FT-1 is selling like hot cakes.

[@herseyberry4655]

It's a mass market headphone, they wanted an affordable quality product. You have to figure to lower production costs to make more profit.

[@SheepDude-qp7ux]

Dr. Jeckyl and mr. Hyde thumbnail

[@KmtS9]

Had bought the Edition XS a few weeks before these came out for $240. Had the chance to get the FT1 Pro yesterday for about $160. 🥲 As much as I wanted to still get them just coz of how cheap they are (plus the fact that they have your seal of approval), just couldn't justify another headphone purchase right now especially since my HD 600 are also arriving soon. 😅 I also have the FT1. So i really am set on headphones for *hopefully* a long enough while.

[@teeteetuu94]

You can buy it still, and sell the one you don't prefer as much.

[@2old2steak]

If you're happy with your current stuff, just forget about new headphones for the most part. Get too many and you start listening to your equipment more than the music.

[@ChrisKeyman]

How compares the Ft1 with the xs ?

[@KmtS9]

@teeteetuu94 sadly, 2nd hand market where I am isn't great. Would lose a ton of value plus would take a long time to sell off as well. I will learn to be content. 😂 And the Edition XS are wonderful to listen to!

[@KmtS9]

@@2old2steak agreed!

[@el_arte]

I sense these are annoying to reviewers because they are so cheap and still match the preference zone better than much more expensive and much more praised sets.

[@garethde-witt6433]

Does it really matter NO the average person just doesn’t care

[@hildegarden6]

FT1 doesn't have competition? K371 is the competition. I own both headphones.

[@balllovewow]

I have K371 and plan to get FT1 in near future. Do u had some advice for me ?

[@hildegarden6]

@@balllovewow Unless you like collecting headphones, my advice is to stop sidegrading, and upgrade to E-MU Teak or AD-D5200 or Vérité Closed.

[@q3aki]

the thing with the planars these days is that they're getting cheaper and cheaper - not so exclusive anymore

[@Armand-v5c]

Still in shipping boat from Hong Kong 🫤

[@f7p1764]

the short answer is you need to hear it yourself.

[@CookinBeatloaf]

You guys acted like you're a couple that broke up but is waiting until after the holidays to tell everyone

[@aRc11-11]

Treble troubles? Not for me.

[@nonchalantd]

17:22 😀

[@herseyberry4655]

Every headphone ain't for everybody.

[@jw-lk1pe]

stop calling him Resolve. it sounds ridiculous. His name is Andrew and your name is Doug

[@DMS3TV]

DMS the 3rd is actually legally my name.

[@jw-lk1pe]

@ Douglas

[@colddish]

I find noticeable differences between stock 3.5mm and 4.4mm. Based on your impressions, I suspect you guys chose 3.5mm.