The microbiome discoveries set to shake up skincare and why your skin pH really matters!

Elaborate skincare routines will become a thing of the past thanks to strides in our understanding of the delicate make-up of our skin microbiome and the major players within it.
In part two of my fascinating interview with Dr Thomas Hitchcock, a skin biome specialist, you'll hear why the pH of our skin really matters and why he believes curating the microbes within it will achieve more for its health and appearance than skincare ever could.
You can watch part 1 here • The link between SKIN ...
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Dr Hitchcock earned a PhD in genetics from Clemson University and completed post-doctoral training at Duke and Yale Universities where he researched tissue engineering and regenerative medicine. He also carried out research at Weill Cornell Medical College, where he studied multiple myeloma genetics.
Dr Hitchcock has co-authored a book about what it means to properly care for our skin by respecting its entire ecosystem. It's called Rebooting the Biome amzn.to/3wdo9fg
He also presented the Beauty and the Bacteria series available on the ‪@CrownAesthetics‬ channel, and presents ‪@theskinsciencepodcast‬
He is chief science officer for Crown Laboratories and has helped develop the Biojuve skincare range, which is currently physician dispensed in dermatology and aesthetic clinics in the US and beyond.
HOW TO FIND BIOJUVE: Getting a lot of queries about how to buy it. There's a list of US stockists (some sell online) on the Biojuve website (www.biojuve.com) or you can try googling Biojuve with your location to find a stockist closer to you.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
01:20 Lowering the pH balance of our skin
04:00 Retinoids
07:08 Why microbes can do more than skincare
10:41 Balance with skincare actives
15:01 Biojuve microbe-based skin biome care
19:48 Microneedling and the skin biome
23:14 Biome-friendly skincare routine
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[@lisaandrews919]

I believe you take care of your skin from the inside!!

[@drehoward9670]

Love this! I think it's time for us all to get back to more natural remedies for everything! And just as he stated, our bodies actually make their own sun protection. The biggest problem is that our food is so devoid of nutrition, that the protection is not sufficient. Yet another way the industry has found a way to sell a product. Thank you Clare!! I so appreciate this journey you are on to discovering just how much the 'beauty' and health industry are deceiving and preying on us. The marketing machine is their cash cow. .... Blessings

[@thehonestchannel]

Nature really does know best and we have so much more to learn and understand. Thanks for joining me on the journey!

[@sonder2164]

I have psoriasis, betadine is the only thing I have found that keeps it in check. I have never done the steroids treatment. I mix the betadine with a baby lotion called pipette. I accidentally discovered that betadine worked while self doctoring oozing sores from the psoriasis.

[@catthompson1466]

​@@sonder2164that's amazing I suffer off and on from the same in my hairline and the doctor gave me a steroid. I'm going to try your remedy. Thank you for sharing.

[@melelle25]

Interesting. I'm skeptical when a physician has their own skincare line that is expensive. And you can't argue that women who have been using retinols for decades have younger looking skin. Although I'm even skeptical of that because lighting is a filter and most of the KZbin skincare gurus have really bright lights. I agree that less is more. Thanks for expanding our thinking regarding skincare. This led me to do a ph test on most of my skincare products. Bluelene was the lowest PH. I'm not sure about that product either. I've been religiously using it for 1.5 years and I don't feel like my skin looks younger or that it's prevented aging.

[@vickyw8789]

I’ve been using tretinoin for over a year now. I do see a big improvement in my skin but hydration is key!

[@thehonestchannel]

Interesting re Bluelene. I use the sunscreen/moisturizer every day and it really agrees with my skin but we all seem to respond differently to different ingredients.

[@thehonestchannel]

I need to find and utilize these filters 😂 Just kidding!

[@melelle25]

😂@@thehonestchannel

[@fidelogos7098]

@@thehonestchannel A better solution is to put the filters on everyone's eyes! Then we'll all look great!

[@LithaMoonSong]

A good friend of mine never ever washed her face with anything but water, she is the youngest looking chick for her age. My stepfather similarly never used toothpaste he just brushed with water, never had a cavity and he is in his eighties.

[@TheGoodContent37]

Genetics

[@MsThe90]

I wonder what was their diet like?

[@lisaandrews919]

Me too….no fluoride, water for face

[@betzib8021]

But I have a friend that did the same..and she looks 20 years older than she is.

[@ukestudio3002]

My kind of people ..products can be very harmful.

[@misscamay]

I am 50 and people always mistake me for mid 20s/ early 30ish, guys in their 20’s ask me out all the time lol….I am Asian, obsessive about sunscreen, upf face cover, and retin a. I also use pulsating red light. Honestly, I don’t have wrinkles at all.

[@Soapgirl64]

I would submit that is due to your ethnicity. You would probably still look great without that routine.

[@PrinzessKennY]

​​@@Soapgirl64 nope... my vietnamese bf age 32 got lines around his eyes already cuz his diet is trash, he doesnt move at all and doesnt take care of his skin (especially on hollydays) either.. he ages like the average european with similar Lifestyle. 😂

[@sylvia8112]

Can I just say that I didnt want to wash my face yesterday as it was too late and put any cream and my skin looked really beautiful next morning. I actually had to take a clser look in the mirror. Maybe you should not only reduce the steps but let your skin heal as well, take rest.

[@Coreexpression]

Sorry to see that this is only available through an a doctor or esthetician's practice. I'm definitely not trying to get into costly treatments that I can only access by making an appointment.

[@marthaj67]

My goodness, this is SO true, at least anecdotally. I'm 56 years old and have always received compliments on my skin (the women in my family age well, but we have _other_ issues 😄). Anyway, I've started to notice fine lines around my eyes and I'm getting what are sometimes called "smoker's lines" around my lips. _No fair! I've never smoked a day in my life!_ So, I recently started using a topical retinaldehyde and some other serums, lotions, and potions which have been said to smooth out wrinkles. My skin has never been so dried-out and tight feeling in my life! 😩 I'm going back to washing my face at night, moisturizing well, and using a moisturizer with an SPF during the day. It doesn't look like I've damaged my skin, but I don't like the way it feels. I think many of us just don't need all that extra stuff.

[@thehonestchannel]

Dry skin was my cue to cut back on skincare too!

[@erniechipdouglas9779]

Retin a will cause drying out due to retinization. I do think skincare has its place im quite haphazard with mine i use sometime then dont i think diet excercise and managing stress is going ro do more for you

[@joanrobinson451]

I found this very interesting and truly appreciate the content you provide. I am always curious to hear what scientists have to say. And they have been saying for years to stop using antibacterial everything. We need some good bacteria in the ecosystem. However, like others, he lost me when, after being critical of other long studied products, he admitted that he sells a very expensive skincare product and has his own personal r&d lab whip up a highly specialized product for him. I remain skeptical. But of course, I will watch with interest when you have him back.

[@keepright5232]

If he is trying to sell a product. That is big no for me, I am only interested with natural remedy.

[@RC-ud4qo]

It's not a discovery if Korean skincare has been using thilese ingredients since forever though. Specifically those fermented or prebiotics in their toners and serums

[@marcjames3487]

Mind you Koreans do seem to have a natural advantage in looking younger !

[@jrmint2]

Actually it was discovered in Japan, SKII started the whole genre of fermented products. And ppl have been doing yogurt and honey masks forever.

[@AFndjdj7373]

Thanks for a wonderful discussion, Claire! Such a breath of fresh air on KZbin, where “use salicylic acid and a sunscreen” sums up about 99% of videos. I would however challenge the skin microbiome industry and ask why animals raised in completely microbiome-free conditions actually have improved skin healing “Skin wound healing is accelerated and scarless in the absence of commensal microbiota” - Journal of Immunology, 2014 This ties in with the great point you raised about skin bacterial diversity being associated with ageing skin. Taken together, I feel the evidence points to an almost negative role of the skin microbiome on skin health 👀

[@thehonestchannel]

Oooh, there’s a conclusion! I will put this to Dr Hitchcock when he comes back to answer follow-up questions.

[@beyond50skin]

Love this balanced approach. This aligns with what I’m discovering over time …If I look and listen closely to my skin & how it’s adjusting to various skincare actives… the active products that show best results are one’s I add in “low & slow” vs “strong and wrong” 😊

[@thehonestchannel]

So true. I think our natural intuition, if we lean into it, guides us best ❤️

[@wienernanny8670]

Looking forward to read the book. Thank you!

[@thehonestchannel]

It’s a good one.

[@Adhara740]

As far as retinoid are concerned I use it a couple times a week. Skin definitely looks better with it. Don’t overdo anything, unless it’s spf

[@thehonestchannel]

Really sensible approach.

[@hippopotamusanonymous1580]

SPF isn’t great for everyone darker skin tones have it built in

[@annadiciero]

I love using retinol sparingly as well. Every day is definitely too much.

[@deborah972]

Hi loved this video thank you for everything ❤ xx

[@thehonestchannel]

Thanks for being here!

[@emilyteacher236]

I honestly hope that this whole craze about skincare (that I'm also victim of) will slowly go away. I always wonder how beauty influencers can recommend so many serums, creams, etc if they can hardly have time to use and evaulate everything separately. I have posted this question on many occasions: how do you know that it was this serum that gave you wonderful results if you recommended 5 other serums just a week ago? I think it's all about balance: I won't give up on skincare but I always laugh at, for example, two or three step cleansing (with one good product I can get rid of the whole make-up). I liked the interview but it does make me suspicious that the expert you're talking to, sells his own cosmetics...for me it discredits soo many things, sorry😢~!😢

[@thehonestchannel]

All very fair comments Emily. I've had a few people say in the past they'd rather I interview scientists who aren't making products but the reality is most if not all experts have a commercial agenda of some kind and those with the greatest insight and expertise will likely put it to commercial use.

[@youtubeexercise7894]

I agree with everything you said, Emily!! I finally did my own research and am now sticking to the skincare I feel is working for me.

[@ukestudio3002]

This guy is so reasonable. So rare especially in medical professions. Wish he had a yt channel! Thank you again for the video! (Saw the first part.)

[@thehonestchannel]

He has a great podcast which I’ve linked in the description.

[@astuart101]

This is a refreshing take on everything. The outer microbiome and inner is fascinating and worth looking after both as best you can. Even being how illness can impact you. We have viruses and bacteria which battle for our health :)

[@lindajoy23]

Really interesting conversation which makes so much sense to me. Simplify, trust your skin’s reaction, watch out for signs of inflammation, less is more. I’d love more of Dr Hitchcock’s thoughts on retinol, Ivan Galanin copped a hiding from so many KZbinrs but the scientific research he shares makes compelling reading. I’ve been very interested in this topic ever since!

[@thehonestchannel]

Thanks Linda. I will ask more next time about retinoids. I can understand why doctors and scientists feel reluctant to get into this subject because of the backlash that will predictably follow if they don't toe the line. I think as we discover more this will change and I also feel there will be a place for retinoids in skincare for many years to come but the protocols for use may very well change i.e. higher strength, daily frequency long-term is not necessarily the ideal approach.

[@lindajoy23]

Absolutely Claire, thank you for responding ❤

[@daphneryland-jones6732]

Hi Clare - thank you. My daughter found your podcast very interesting, and she already knows about 'less is more'....! She lives in Estonia now and can't afford to buy anything at the moment....which I feel is just as well as there are lots of expensive interventions which have the potential to end up as damaging rabbits holes! She told me today that she is trialing not using shampoo now....finally....after me telling her to give it up 10 years ago to help her itchy scalp. I use only water on my hair about once a week, and then maybe after a few days I will use a little dry shampoo if I feel I need a bit if going out somewhere special. My hair is thicker and soft and curlier and fuller - and not brittle and dry like my sisters (who is also in her late fifties). The carnivore diet heals and restores youth like nothing else I know. Less is so definitely more when it comes to staying young looking. And nature identical hormones in creams....feels like it has saved my life! They really are not dangerous. It is such a scam to tell us to fear them. Very sad to see so many women put off by lies.

[@logiclanguagelearningFrench]

Hi x so can you explain. So you literally eat no carbs? Like what would breakfast lunch and dinner be? I would be so grateful if you could tell me. Health issues here

[@ilanta_sa]

Using gentle natural ingredients will always be supportive of our microbiome. Aggressive ingredients or actives aren’t the best.

[@debgilbert3206]

I have more questions than answers after listening to Dr. Hitchcock. I wonder what is thoughts are on chemical peels and cosmetics just to name two. I believe women are at the mercy of marketing and companies who prey upon our insecurities, so the idea of less is more is very appealing. Thank you for bring this fascinating and important topic to your viewers. 😊

[@thehonestchannel]

I will ask about specific actives, peels and make-up in the follow-up

[@debgilbert3206]

@@thehonestchannel thank you. 😊

[@iiszyman1]

Please ask about rosacea care, too.

[@carlingus7639]

Your long video style is excellent and so professional! My issue with Biojuve -I had beautiful skin for 8 days and then the breakouts and rosacea blotches arrived. I didn’t try anything else new in that time. ‘Purging’ seems like a scam to me, is it possible the probiotic in this is not for everyone??

[@thehonestchannel]

Thank you! Dr Hitchcock is coming back on the channel to answer viewer questions so I will ask about the incidence of breakouts with this treatment.

[@consciouscrypto3090]

My 48 year old sister looks like she's about 35 and she has never washed her face with anything other than water and has never applied any product other than shea butter. That's it. No sunblock even. And she has no wrinkles nor discolorations. Flawless pores. Meanwhile I use all kinds of things from sunblock, to cleansers, moisturizers, actives, microneedling, red light, just to not have dull skin with large pores and sagging. I toy with the idea of imitating her routine, but it's hard to let go of the idea that I need to do these things, since they do all seem to have improved the trajectory I was on.

[@daphneryland-jones6732]

I rarely wash my skin ever. Maybe once or twice a month.. with nothing other than water, or if I use 'soap' I use either African Black Soap or a Dead Sea soap bar. I am 55 now and everyone always says I look more like my daughters sisters than their mother. Menopause was hard - until I added nature identical hormones back in - in cream form - Progesterone and Estrogen and I now take a Pregnenalone supplement to enhance my one production of all sex hormones. I eat a Carnivore style diet with no veg - which helps so much. I don't alcohol or suncream either - ever! Yes, I wear a little make up once or twice a week - but I keep it light and never 'take it off' as this is adding insult to injury in my way of thinking. Oh, yes - and my cat insists on giving me exfoliation sessions daily - so I can't imagine what that does to my skins microbiome!!! I do exfoliate a couple of times a week with a clean pure cotton cloth which is very effective on its own. I am just starting to trial using a little of the Estrogen cream on my face - but only a little as it is likely going to upset it if I do too much.

[@thehonestchannel]

I really relate to this. My 91 year old aunt is similar. Never work make-up or used skincare products and has amazing skin.

[@nancyannesunboxings]

This was quite interesting! I started using retinol nightly a while back and within the last month have added red light therapy and vitamin C serum every morning. I'm noticing a marked improvement in my skin. But after listening to this, I think I'll back my retinol & C down to every other day while continuing on with the red light therapy 5 to 6 days a week. Thank you for a wonderful interview and for always bringing us the best information!

[@ILOVE2FeelGOOD]

Which red light therapy unit are you using please

[@thehonestchannel]

I do something very similar, using retinal just two or three times a week which still seems to give me the benefits.

[@nancyannesunboxings]

@@ILOVE2FeelGOOD The Maysama pulsed light panel.

[@nancyannesunboxings]

@TheHonestChannel Thank you! Good to know.

[@kristinek7436]

I agree with pulsing actives with taking rest evenings. I would consider using his serum/mist a couple of times a week. I wonder if that would be effective.

[@320Fairway]

I Clare, just finished 3 months of Adipeau. I am 74 and look much younger- good skin care. I saw no change with Adipeau.

[@daofjudith]

I am on month two of the Adipeau and I have noticed huge changes. I don’t rub it in. I just slightly tap it and let it stay there for like 20 minutes and then gently rub it in if anything is left and I’m 65.

[@thehonestchannel]

Sorry to hear it didn’t work for you.

[@amandafrancis9168]

I used it just on one area. My right cheek is a little sunken. Used it 4 times a day,leaving it to soak in without rubbing. After 3 months there was no difference. It was worth a try certainly but I didn't re-order.

[@amybird460]

I used Adipeau twice a day for 5 months and no change.

[@lindapringle1285]

Very insightful interview thank you ❤

[@thehonestchannel]

So glad you found it helpful!

[@inquisitive9248]

When my youngest daughter was little, we used to wash her hair with shampoo very rarely -once in a few months. We washed it with pure water and it looked and felt great. She is now more mature and often is a victim of commercialization of female insecurities. I need to remind her then less is more.

[@CherylBerryl]

This was an excellent 2- PT interview w/ the good Doc. It intrinsically makes logical sense to me. I just wish I could know more information on how do we figure out exactly how much is too much, too often, with actives like Vit-C, BHA/AHA Acids, & some form of a Retinoid. I also would like to know if using Regular peptides, & Copper Peptides daily is ok, are they considered "actives?". The topic of Exomes Growth Factors was briefly touched upon by the Doc, and I'd Really like to hear more on that topic. It seems like "everyone's" saying this is a MUST in order for your skin/face to not "fall apart". And, then there are Telomere serums & creams. I found Revive brand to (so far) be the most cost effective one. My brain feels like it's rattling in my head sometimes trying to figure out all of this stuff! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@thehonestchannel]

I'll put the question to him re the different actives and how much is too much. He takes a pretty cautious tone on growth factors - feel there is potential there but also risk which needs further investigation. You may be aware I use a skincare product with growth factors, but I cycle it so give me skin a break as well. It's like we know so much now, but still so little!

[@scwheeler24]

I didn’t really use anything on my face I’m 63, fair skin. Grew up in the south. My skin is awful. Since I at least started a skincare program and it at least looks better along with sunscreen. Nothing can hurt me at this point. I just got a prescription for retinol .25. We shall see

[@ZaraQadir97]

Since I started using coconut oil castor oil and vit C serum here and there. My skin looks healthy and beautiful. Another thing that changed in my life is deep internal connection. I can literally feel my skin and body saying thanks to it. For many years, it was one or another cream serum or laser procedure. After 40 years I feel we have to be very cautious with energy devices. A regular facial massage and tapping with your finger tips gives better result than an inexperienced aesthetician. That's where I have reached till now. May be it will change with some new technologies in future.

[@thehonestchannel]

Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@user-hv4bu2yz5m]

I use castor oil too. I used coconut in the past. Maybe I should mic them?

[@brandinshaeffer8970]

My younger sister moved from rural Oklahoma to stay with me at my home in CA. She was HORRIFIED looking in the mirror at how much older she looked than her older sister. I immediately put her on a scare regimen and within 3 months it was near miraculous how much younger she looked. She was my little sister again. That experience taught me that a regime of well sourced products DOES make a difference. I do a gentle cleanser, a glycolic treatment 1-2 times a week, deeper peel 3-4 times a year, hyaluronic serum, rose day cream, vitamin C natural oils, glycerin Grace spray, and a tallow honey mask that i make at home when i need a pick me up.

[@thehonestchannel]

Thanks for sharing your experience with us!

[@happymouse442]

Thanks for sharing! How do you make a tallow honey mask?

[@catehart3]

Thank you for taking time to do these interviews and share them with the rest of us!! I would really like to know the following: 1. What impact does makeup have on our skin’s biome? Especially coupled with sunscreen and setting powder. 2. Is a gentle cleanser like cerave’s hydrating cream to foam cleanser okay to use? 3. What about hyaluronic acid, snail mucin, general moisturizers, alpha hydroxy acids like glycolic acid? 4. If we don’t wash our face in the morning but we apply vitamin c, snail mucin, moisturizer over our unwashed face does that still disrupt our biome?

[@thehonestchannel]

I'll make a note, thank you.

[@lisabafundo4355]

Yes, agreed, a balance is a wise decision. I know for a fact retin A reversed my aging skin. That being said, i also find i don't need to use it daily and I'm a firm believer of switching up my actives and routine. 😊❤

[@thehonestchannel]

No doubt retin A has a significant impact on the skin. Great that you’re taking a balanced approach. ❤️

[@anab7481]

I’ve been reading on fermented rice water and its benefits for skin and hair, I’m going to give it a try before buying new skincare

[@kathleen9456]

I use retin A but never above .025 and every other day. Same with some antioxidants, I cycle them and don’t take more than necessary. I occasionally take a skincare “break” and only do moisturizer and sunscreen for a few days or week. Despite being an 80s sunbather with multiple serous burns, my skin isn’t too bad, but fat loss and sag have replaced wrinkles. I have to admit that Ive started to pull out all stops and do LED, micro current and micro needling, but I hate the time involved. Getting older in a world that values youth and beauty is exhausting and depressing 😢 I also wonder how even just water affects our microbiome since most municipal water sources use chlorine etc to purify water. Would distilled be better ?

[@thehonestchannel]

That sounds like a sensible approach to skincare. There’s definitely a balance to be had between a manageable routine and an elaborate one that becomes a drag. Also a balance between accepting our aging skin and helping it retain its health and volume for as long as we can. Not an easy one to navigate!

[@ViCT0RiA6]

about a year ago i was using many veeeery expensive skin products, and i had the worst eczema in my life ive never experienced eczema before ever. i caught covid and didnt do anything to my skin for the 2 weeks i was sick, and my eczema was essentially cured... it made me think to reduce my skin products and keep things very very simple basic cleanser and a basic cream, sometimes an over the counter retinol sandwiched between my basic moisturizer- and if there is high UV or a hot season then i wear SPF.. and let me tell you how much the quality of my skin improved since then, and i entirely got rid of my eczema thank God because it was horrible. so at least anecdotally this doctor and clares instinct is definitely on to something

[@thehonestchannel]

Thanks for sharing this!

[@a91170]

Wow! Waiting for the Dr. to come back and elaborate on too much retinoids, and use of SPF.

[@zsazsa8006]

One of my favorite additions to my skin care is living silica gel❤🎉

[@thehonestchannel]

Ooh, interesting!

[@lori6616]

What’s that ?!❤

[@lolitanolita9107]

I don't trust retinoids... I have used retinol and retinA, but I stopped. I only allow myself to use things such as retinal or bakuchiol oil now. Moisturising, clean beauty cream, shea butter, oils, and sunscreens are my skin's best friends.

[@JenniferPayne-Ross-nq7ik]

Excellent interview Clare, thank you! So enlightening. I’m curious about his thoughts on using hypochlorous acid spray to lower the pH of the skin. My hormonal son uses it to control his acne, it’s pretty incredible. It seems reasonable that it may Benefit aging skin as well, by lowering the pH, and benefiting the skin biome.

[@thehonestchannel]

I’ll make a note to ask.

[@JenniferPayne-Ross-nq7ik]

Great, thanks so much, Clare! If hypochlorous acid can effectively lower the skin pH, that would be a very inexpensive method to benefit the biome.

[@jonathonfreelove5321]

This was a great 2nd part and appreciate the honesty dr Thomas spoke with. I’m just curious Claire do you believe certain foods like sugar and dairy can effect skin and aging there doesn’t seem to be much actual evidence studies

[@sylvia8112]

Sugar is the number one factor, well documented and when it comes to dairy it depends what you can tolerate. I know old people who drank milk all their life and they have beautiful skin. But sugar is no 1 enemy as well as processed food

[@thehonestchannel]

Unregulated blood sugar is definitely aging. I really recommend the book Glucose Revolution by Jesse Inchauspe. She covers this beautifully but also shares great practical advice on how to decrease glucose spikes

[@managementcustomerservice2615]

In 2021 I was diagnosed with perioral dermatitis. My doctor said it’s from steroids, fluoride toothpaste etc. I use none of the things she claims causes it. I used clindamycin successfully. Then 6 months later it returned and the RX was ineffective. I tried every single remedy to no avail. Then this January I read an article about a woman who successfully treated her PD with bio juve. The theory makes sense, the skin barrier is compromised. My doctor had me on retinol for decades. The skin on my laugh lines was always destroyed but I continued because I was told it would get better. I’ve been using bio juve since January 10, I still have PD but my skin looks happier. I quit using retinol and acids. I don’t think my doc is well informed so I will just keep trying to figure out my own skin. Please get another interview with this man again!

[@thehonestchannel]

Thanks for sharing your experience here!

[@chariots8x230]

When Dr. Hitchcock comes back, I hope he can recommend to us a sunscreen and cleanser with a good formula that we can use. I need a high SPF sunscreen (SPF 50 or above), as well as a gentle cleanser to remove the sunscreen at the end of the day. But I’m really not sure which ones to get.

[@surrendertoflow78]

I was wondering when the skin industry was going to catch up with this kind of knowledge! This is exciting because I treat do think this kind of research is where it’s at! I wonder what he thinks about how the use of HOCl affects the skin microbiome? It’s in so many “remedies” now and I even have a generator at home that we use for sanitizing instead of alcohol because I can’t handle alcohol sanitizers. Supposedly one can use it without negatively impacting beneficial bacteria, but sounds like we might need to rethink our notions of “good” and “bad” bacteria at least to some degree.

[@thehonestchannel]

I will ask about HOCI

[@daphneryland-jones6732]

Hi Clare. Thank you for this - I rarely wash my skin ever. Maybe once or twice a month.. with nothing other than water, or if I use 'soap' I use either African Black Soap or a Dead Sea soap bar. I am 55 now and everyone always says I look more like my daughters big sister than their mother. Menopause was hard - until I added nature identical hormones back in - in cream form - Progesterone and Estrogen and I now take a Pregnenalone supplement to enhance my endogenous production of all sex hormones. I now eat a Carnivore style diet with no veg/grain etc - which helps so much. I don't use alcohol or suncream either - ever! Yes, I wear a little make up once or twice a week - but I keep it light and never 'take it off' as this is adding insult to injury in my way of thinking. Oh, yes - and my cat insists on giving me exfoliation sessions daily - so I can't imagine what that does to my skins microbiome!!! I do exfoliate a couple of times a week with a clean pure cotton cloth which is very effective on its own. I am just starting to trial using a little of the Estrogen cream on my face - but only a little as it is likely going to upset it if I do too much.

[@thehonestchannel]

Thank you for sharing your experience with us! Love the sound of the cat exfoliation!!

[@lizzioconnor9051]

Wow - your comment is so interesting. Maybe we should have you back on the channel to discuss further ! I love your approach - where do you think it came from ? ThankYou SoMuch. 👍😜

[@shanhare76]

Can you share what hormone creams you use?

[@shanhare76]

Can you share what hormone creams you use?

[@claudiosimonelli4893]

It is clear that the microbiome is as important in our body (gut) as it is on our skin. Why be surprised?! Just as it doesn't surprise me that everything we put on our skin affects it, as does the foods we ingest. So healthy diet for the body and healthy products for the skin. It seems to me that everyone in this great choir of voices wants to find their own podium where they can advertize something impactful and innovative. But no one here has invented another wheel yet. What emerges is that we have to throw away the retinoids and use his product line. Certainly excellent advice.

[@thehonestchannel]

Really interesting take.

[@DdDd-pk4pu]

Thank you❤👏🏼🥰

[@thehonestchannel]

You’re welcome 😊

[@Elven.]

I can't stop using tretinoin, if I stop my cell turnover is so slow that I end up with terrible texture. I don't use makeup, only spf. I don't know what to do. It's not food , it's genetic. Salicylic acid does not cut it

[@thehonestchannel]

If your skin is healthy and doing well with tretinoin I don’t think you should worry. It sounds like you are following a simple routine which is the main thing.

[@vickyw8789]

Same. I’ll never stop. My skin has never looked so good. I’ve been taking browning pills because I do miss some colour on my face.

[@Elven.]

Ty for responding! @@thehonestchannel where's that video on doubts/ more info you have on retinoids? I'm curious to know as much as possible

[@luisacerrato331]

Try glycolic acids and see if that helps.

[@h.v.4148]

With skincare routine or everything else in life (diet, sports, etc.) You can do too much of it. I prefer 3 “active” skin days a week. With a glycol foamer in the morning and retinol in the evening. Combined with a calming hydrating cream and mineral sunscreen. The other 4 days I give my skin rest. Only gently washing it with water and use the hydrating cream and sunscreen. Besides that I do a series of IPL every year.

[@ILOVE2FeelGOOD]

Just wondering if a live goat yoghurt face mask would materially reboot the skin micribiome? ... Cleopatra was a fan of milk bathing and am wondering if that is why she was reported to have beautiful skin

[@thehonestchannel]

Interesting question!

[@seascape185]

Influencers /internet have made things you need insane 😢

[@chariots8x230]

18:13 Is this product safe to use around the eye area and on the eyelids, or should those areas be avoided? What product is recommended for us to use around the eyes?

[@martinep6293]

I have been focusing on eating only unprocessed food and eliminating fast carbs. If you spend a maximum amount of time outdoors hats and clothes are the first weapon. Zinc and diluted baby diaper cream seems to help, but not quite enough to avoid organic sun screen.

[@kerrystone3201]

Thanks again Clare I know what you mean when you say you could talk to him for hours...just the tip of the iceberg really. I have a few questions for next time if you get to ask him. 1. What kind of oils could we use on our skin to promote the growth of C. Acnes and is that a good idea? Jojoba, Emu, Olive squalane are supposed to be close to sebum which might be good? 2. Have you tried using any prebiotics in your lab experiments? And if so, what ones if any, work well? #. How robust is the skin biome? Can some disappear completely ? Or can it come back into balance if we give it the right conditions/a break from product? 4. What ph should we be looking for in our everyday products to keep our skin at a healthy ph? Cheers : )

[@thehonestchannel]

Good questions - thanks Kerry.

[@santanacaipirinha9536]

Micellar water actually isn't that great an option - at least it wasn't for me. It leaves a surface residue on the skin which can act like a film and can block pores and disrupt oil production. That is, if you don't wash it off, but why would you if you use it to avoid washing with something else? I know a lot of people swear by it and I'm sure it works for them, but it took me a while to figure out it was actually the micellar water that was disrupting my skin when I thought it was the most harmless step in my routine. Questions for the Dr. for the next round: will his products be available in Europe any time soon? I only see US providers on the site. And does he recommend not using any other products/actives at the same time?

[@thehonestchannel]

He suggests using a microfiber cloth to remove the residue which I find quite effective. I found a few stockists in the UK just by googling ‘Biojuve’. They’re not listed on the Biojuve site so it’s worth doing a search and see what comes up near you.

[@santanacaipirinha9536]

@@thehonestchannel Yes, thank you for the suggestion. I was already looking for microfiber clothts after seeing this, though still not in combination with micellar water. Just not a good option for my skin. I'm in The Netherlands and couldn't find anything apart from a US site that seems to ship here. They offer the serum with or without retinol, which I find a little confusing after seeing his take on it, so not sure how legit they are.

[@marthaj67]

Not to plug another channel, but Penn Smith (I think it was Penn Smith; I watch a lot of beauty channels 😄) said in a recent video that Micellar water is good to use as a first step in a double-cleanse. I've only ever used it to remove tubing mascara, which it does very well, by the way.

[@santanacaipirinha9536]

@@marthaj67 I watch her channel too. My skin just doesn't like micellar water and to top it off it makes me even shinier no matter how well I remove it. It just looks like I was bedazzled with fairy dust by a My Little Pony.

[@scwheeler24]

Miceller milk like neutragena is nice. I use this almost daily over other soaps. I just wipe off with a disposable cloth wet

[@Retrosenescent]

I cant use tretinoin every day either. After nearly 2 years of using it regularly, my skin still only tolerates it 2x a week

[@thehonestchannel]

Great that you listened to your skin and found the right balance. That's absolutely the right approach in my view.

[@shellebelle6231]

This is so interesting. Help, I have tried to reduce wrinkles above my top lip by using geek & gorgeous 0.1% retinaldihyde every night which my skin tolerates well , but I have noticed the orange peel look above my lip & on my chin area which looks awful. I have normal skin not oily ,Can you recommend any reasonably priced products to help get it back on track please? (I have Cera ve moisturising lotion & have just bought Eucerin 5% urea night cream.?.( I have stopped the Retinal until my skin gets back on track.

[@thehonestchannel]

Glad you found the interview interesting! Personally, I use retinaldehyde too but just twice a week so I would consider cutting back and see how you go.

[@luisacerrato331]

I am 60 years old and people think I am 40. I think heredity plays a role but also, I use sunscreen on my face and body daily. I am trying Korean skincare along with my current skin regimin. I do not eat many processed foods.

[@thehonestchannel]

I think sunscreen plays a way bigger part in preventing skin aging than most folks give it credit for. 👍

[@jillpotts7472]

well love your show. really try. but.. i drink too much🤷🏼‍♀️but im happy and exercise and eat well... can't be perfect, at least i cant ❤

[@thehonestchannel]

There’s none of us perfect Jill! ❤️

[@michellejulene3125]

Clare, you look STUNNING 😍

[@thehonestchannel]

Thank you 🙏

[@rodrigsantsil]

Does anyone know what's good for SEBORRHEIC DERMATITIS? I've been struggling with it since 2015. No idea what triggered it. Ive changed my diet several times. It's only around the mustache/beard area.

[@SleeplessinOC]

Aside from the often heard conventional advice (reduce/eliminate sugar - even fruit , eliminate/reduce caffeine ) I would like to make a suggestion that you start adding beans (legumes) or organic whole husk psyllium to your daily diet (psyllium for those who shouldn’t or can’t eat beans due to kidney disease/issues). Skin problems can often manifest from a toxic overload in the bile of the liver that needs to be thrown away but can’t , because bile , the digestive fluid needs something to be captured in so that it does not get reabsorbed through the intestinal tract. If you’re willing to give this a try , I can make some general serving suggestion if you tell me your height and weight . Another possibility could be caused by yeast in which case cooked garlic can help eliminate yeast in the body (by eating it). Also , it might be a good idea to do a final face rinse when washing , with distilled water. It’s a bit of a hassle but I have read online that it can really make a difference in skin health and acne when done over time.

[@ppyli]

Biojuve is not available for us to buy? How can we get it! Please let us know. Thank you

[@thehonestchannel]

Hi. It’s available through dermatology and aesthetic clinics. If you Google it you will hopefully find a provider closer to your location.

[@meowunboxing6919]

Not recommended for acne prone? There are a lot of users on reddit that experienced breakouts after trying biojuve. Not all, some love it, but enough to keep me from ordering for my acne prone skin.

[@ellec2983]

Loving the scientific knowledge here. Only issue is the use of microfibre cloth. They work well, but they are environmentally toxic, the microfibre particles are too small to be filtered out by water treatment plants and end up in the waterways and oceans, resulting in damage to marine life. Personally, I have been cutting up my old linen clothing for facecloths and they work beautifully, getting softer over time.

[@mrnt1257]

He may have it all right. But it was interesting that he was talking about other people selling their products and then…he was selling his.

[@ellec2983]

@@mrnt1257 Research institutes need to sell their products to fund more research. The thing is, that if he espoused his evidence based research knowledge, and didn't have a product to offer people, there would be immense pressure to produce it anyway. Many amazing products have come from NASA research, and so it goes.

[@thehonestchannel]

I didn't know that so thank you. I'll look into it.

[@walterski8377]

Dont mind someone selling something but to cast shade first on others & their posible nefarious motives because they are motivated by $$. Then minutes later he opens his magic bag & he has a book & some goo to sell that is unique & the bestest of all. Arugh... 😮

[@ukestudio3002]

Listen to his information and how he says it. It says more about his character than the perceived huckstering.

[@seascape185]

Who need all that ! My mom used a good old washcloth ! It removes dirty and skin turnover

[@amandafrancis9168]

So if a lower ph helps the skin biome then in theory vit c serums and alpha hydroxy acids should be good.

[@thehonestchannel]

In his book it’s actually salicylic acid that Dr Hitchcock recommends, but he does say vitamin c is a good antioxidant if you stick to a simple formula.

[@chariots8x230]

Is Biojuve available on Amazon? I searched, but couldn’t find it. So, I’m wondering if it goes by a different name, or maybe it’s just not showing up in the search results.

[@thehonestchannel]

Hi. It’s physician dispensed so no available for general sale online I’m afraid.

[@river4140]

Can I buy this online?

[@daphneryland-jones6732]

I can't find where to buy this in London or how much it costs - not for me, but for one of my daughters who has skin problems. Please can you share these details Clare. Thank you.

[@thehonestchannel]

When I googled Biojuve UK I saw a company called Skin365 sell it online but I have no experience of them. Hope that helps.

[@daphneryland-jones6732]

Hi Clare - thank you. My daughter found your podcast very interesting, and she already knows about 'less is more'....! She lives in Estonia now and can't afford to buy anything at the moment....which I feel is just as well as there are lots of expensive interventions which have the potential to end up as damaging rabbits holes! She told me today that she is trialing not using shampoo now....finally....after me telling her to give it up 10 years ago to help her itchy scalp. I use only water on my hair about once a week, and then maybe after a few days I will use a little dry shampoo if I feel I need a bit if going out somewhere special. My hair is thicker and soft and curlier and fuller - and not brittle and dry like my sisters (who is also in her late fifties). The carnivore diet heals and restores youth like nothing else I know. Less is so definitely more when it comes to staying young looking. And nature identical hormones in creams....feels like it has saved my life! They really are not dangerous. It is such a scam to tell us to fear them. Very sad to see so many women put off by lies.@@thehonestchannel

[@thehonestchannel]

@@daphneryland-jones6732 Thanks so much for sharing your experience with me : )

[@walterski8377]

Interesting on his sun protection focus because UV protection from benzos are not the best chemicals and the EU is going after titanium dioxide as a bad actor banning it soon. Its what makes paint white & sunscreen white. In makeup too

[@thehonestchannel]

He talks about sunscreen ingredients in his book. I’ll explore it further next time.

[@JforFreedom]

I do like oils though. I use Bio Juve and need oils for massage and I feel so dry all day as I don’t wear makeup. I’m 66 yo

[@thehonestchannel]

How do you find the Biojuve? My husband is keen for me to order it so he can use it!😁

[@betsywestbrook7169]

Time revolution uses fermented product to work with your micro biome I think sk2 works that way as well

[@thehonestchannel]

I use a fermented facial oil. It’s incredibly gentle and hydrating so feels like my microbes appreciate it 😁

[@sebrinadickerson3341]

I don't see much difference in the before and afters. I'm not convinced that singling out one microbe is the answer. It makes more sense to 'feed' the good stuff that's already there so it can do what it does best, and to prevent 'overgrowth' of the bad stuff, same as in the gut.

[@sheradenart7907]

I check the environmental working groups database for skin care products that have less reactive ingredients.

[@shiftingperspective369]

never underestimate a root canal treatment, dead teeth means dead shit inside u, nicos and silent inflammation in your mouth and jaw bones what can be the root cause of lots of skin and gut problems!

[@marcjames3487]

This guy talks a lot of sense. For a truly natural moisturiser - I know it sounds awful - but Beef Tallow has proven the best product for my aging skin. I haven't used shampoo for years, and a sliver of soap also lasts for a year. Natural is best. Full disclosure, for the face I've continued with a HLA, Vit C and E serum. Biojuve is a fascinating new approach though, I'm tempted with that.

[@thehonestchannel]

I see a lot of people talk about beef tallow for skin. Fascinating. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@chariots8x230]

10:14 Since it’s recommended that we use sunscreen, how can we wash off that sunscreen? Is there a cleanser that won’t damage the microbiome of our skin?

[@thehonestchannel]

I will ask about cleansers and sunscreen. Avoiding soap on your face is a good start. I use a gentle cleansing balm.

[@chariots8x230]

@@thehonestchannel Thank you. I hope he gives us some recommendations :) I agree with you about avoiding soap on the face. Years ago, I used to wash my face with soap because I didn’t know any better. When I was doing this, my pores were extremely clogged and I didn’t understand why. I had been doing it for years, and I thought my skin was the problem for having clogged pores. At some point, somebody I knew told me that I shouldn’t use soap on my face, but should use skincare products instead. So, I went to Sephora and got a whole bunch of highly-rated skincare products. The problem is that those highly-rated and highly expensive skincare products didn’t make my skin better, but rather worse. They caused skin redness, irritation, and I even ended up having an allergic reaction to a product. What I realized later is that my skin barrier had become extremely damaged from using soap on my face for years, and the products that I was using which contained a variety of different ingredients were just going through my skin layers and further causing irritation & damage to my skin. I was using products that were supposed to help my skin, yet my skin had become reddened and highly visible lines had appeared that were never there before, as a result of the dryness caused by those skincare products. My skin even had a bad reaction to prescribed topical creams that I started using to treat the problems that were caused from the skincare products I had used. So, there was no help anywhere. At that point, I just stopped using everything and only washed my face with water. Sometimes I also applied oat water on my skin to soothe it, but that’s all. Over time, the irritation started to fade, the clogged pores were at least 90% better, the acne I had improved a lot, and my skin started to become more normal. While I’ve stayed away from creams for a long time because my skin hasn’t tolerated them well, I do want to start using sunscreen. My skin has usually tolerated sunscreens when I’ve used them, but I haven’t been using sunscreen just because I’m not sure what cleanser to use that won’t damage my skin microbiome or dry out my skin. I hope to find a high SPF sunscreen and a cleanser with a good formula that will work well for my skin. I like Dr Hitchcock’s approach to skincare where he considers the skin microbiome important. In my personal experience, my skin only started to heal when I stopped using products that were damaging my microbiome.

[@chariots8x230]

@@thehonestchannel Thank you. I hope he can give us some recommendations :)

[@chariots8x230]

@@thehonestchannel I agree about avoiding soap on the face. I was going to give you a more detailed answer about my skincare journey and my experience using soap on my face in the past. Unfortunately, KZbin deleted my comment for no good reason at all. The filters here are horrible. They delete or ghostban thoughtful comments that someone takes a while to write.

[@J.A.706]

Very interesting (both videos) with Dr. Hitchcock. If he comes back, maybe he can ease my concerns about adding a genetic switch so the microbes don't replicate unless under specific circumstances. I don't mind speeding up natural selection and hybridization. But I don't see genetic engineering as "speeding up natural selection." And I don't think humans understand the unintended consequences of intervening too much with genetic engineering when it comes to stopping (or accelerating) the natural processes of anything living on earth, whether a microbe or a mammal. He works in the bioengineer field after all and no doubt may think these concerns come only from paranoid amateurs. But other scientists including evolutionary biologists, also have this concern.

[@thehonestchannel]

I will ask about the wisdom of trying to artificially engineer our skin biome. Thank you.

[@J.A.706]

@@thehonestchannelThank you.

[@charlenewilley6481]

I take N-Acetyl cysteine with glycine. Bestvthing thats made me look younger is going sober 12 months ago and and sunscreen and no tan.

[@contactelisha8069]

I dont thin k they ever answered the question how duo you lower your skin PH. This one seemed to head off into an advert for a skin care range.

[@thehonestchannel]

I pull out the practical points, including a couple from his book, at the end. You can use the timestamps

[@user-gr6xz7ri8b]

I do not remember many of my elder female relatives having that many wrinkles. They did not have much but Dove and Ponds. Hmm, gives me pause. I had so much oil you could have drilled my forehead and the T zone. I feel when I started using the retinas and HA my oil went away I never made the link I just thought I was aging. Hmmm.

[@thehonestchannel]

It does make you think. There's certainly a delicate balance to be struck.

[@kathyb.9712]

I don’t know….another skin expert owning & selling a very expensive product line. But do agree less is often more.

[@thehonestchannel]

A few folks have a similar view. I can see the point but I also think it's only natural that if you spend years researching the skin biome you're going to want to put your knowledge into action.

[@paulinestanley8231]

Hi where can you buy Biojuve l live in Spain Thanks

[@thehonestchannel]

I've put a little note in the video description.

[@RS-xl9tk]

All of our grandmothers and mothers have done nearly nothing for their aging and incredibly SIMPLE regimens and we have seen how they aged 😳 I disagree about not doing anything or doing very little and that this is the way to go 🤦🏻‍♀️ We can’t take the odd story of someone looking 30 years younger by not wearing sunscreen or something to that effect either lol. Of course we need to not go crazy and scale back when possible or at least not jump into everything head first and to the max…I will have to rewatch this to see what are the recommendations? I must have missed that part?

[@dspirit444]

I think you can introduce something new to the market without denigrating what's already there. Ppl have options based on their particular skin type and preferences.

[@lisaandrews919]

I knew asap retinoids etc didn’t work and made my skin look horrible….that was after basically doing little to my facial skin my entire life including no makeup

[@a91170]

But do all people need the SAME skin biome?

[@thehonestchannel]

Will ask!

[@a91170]

@@thehonestchannel thanks 🌹

[@margottfon330]

...but 'less' is something we've had in the past, and ppl were aging, perhaps sooner, than now....idk...

[@annadiciero]

I'm not sure that curating the microbiome is a good idea. Maybe it is. The story about changing the macrobiome and overgrowth of the elk, changing the microflora of the skin comes to mind.

[@thehonestchannel]

It’s a good point that I’ll discuss with Dr Hitchcock next time.

[@Yourdeadmeat69]

Wonder what these creatures would do for HAIR GROWTH?

[@PhyrenWater]

I used Retin-A for several years. When I stopped using it my face is a mess. I have an enlarged pores. I have patches of skin that I have to exfoliate and exfoliate that still doesn’t alleviate the dark spots and they stay my face longer because I can’t exfoliate them properly. I am definitely going back to Retin-a. And this hiatus, has been terrible because I’m older my face is not exfoliating like it used to when I was younger and I need a super exfoliant. I also do the derma needling and that does help some. Now if I get a blemish and it dries then it’s almost impossible to regenerate the skin unless I am using Retin A and not a retinoid. I need something for cell turnover. I guess some women when they get older they have dry skin. I have had oily skin all my life and now that I am older my skin is not exfoliating well it needs Retin a help. Once I remove all the dead cells and regenerate the skin, I can get the Microbiome back afterwards Why not just use yogurt for micro-biome? but I don’t care about Microbiome as much with dead skin and enlarged pores and dark spots. When I use Retin a , it took me about six months, and then my skin was beautiful absolutely gorgeous and I had a thickness to it and the pores you could barely see them. The acne was gone and I didn’t have any dark spots.

[@thehonestchannel]

I also find retinoids are great for enlarged pores. And with any topical you don't necessarily have to use them every single day, you can play around with intensity and frequency until you feel your skin is nicely balanced.

[@PhyrenWater]

@@thehonestchannel I agree with you! And for me there was always a period of time when I became flakey, meaning it dried out my skin. but the Retin a was doing the heavy lifting. And like you say, you don’t have to use it every day but I did I used it every day I used the highest strength because I stayed at home and worked from home. I really didn’t care that my face was peeling and flaking and it’ll do that for six months to eight months maybe a year but once all that dead skin is gone you’ve got beautiful surface skin underneath that that’s gorgeous. No more acne no more enlarged pores and my body had become used to it. And I started using it every other day or three times a week. I just changed doctors and I’m going to find another dermatologist to recommend it for my skin. I have suffered enough taking advice from others. LoL

[@stephweissinger]

New discoveries always worry me.

[@charlenewilley6481]

Very expensive products, I'd prefercto have a expert explain how to protect skin biome that dosent involve buying his expensive products.

[@seascape185]

I don’t even use soap and very infrequently do I wash my hair ! All these soaps and serums and smells attract woman to purchase ! I do get clean and shiny lol but not the way all these woman do .i believe a lot of chemicals are no better than to many germs ok 😅

[@almahammond6405]

Hi. I love your channel. I had a look at your skincare routine. I feel the oil you use first will act as an occlusive and not allow the active products that come next good absorption. I would use the active ingredient products first on clean skin and then follow with the moisture. Just a thought. Also I'm on the fence with exosomes (Calecim), as I'm hearing from other camps that getting off of them can cause unwanted bumps and lumps. I did try Calecim and my rule is to use it for 90 days and assess then whether I buy more. I did not notice any difference. That said, their hair product on my hairline has caused new growth. I will continue to use that.

[@thehonestchannel]

So glad you enjoy the channel! You’re right about the oils. I don’t apply any actives over them apart from my physical sunscreen in the mornings. I apply the oil below the sunscreen as a barrier between the zinc oxide and my microbiome 😁 Where are you seeing those reports about Calecim? I use it in cycles so am taking a break at the moment and no lumps to report.

[@almahammond6405]

It was not a study about Calecim per se but about the use of exosomes in general. What is the name of your microbiome you use, and why do you not use actives like vitamin c or peptides in the am? Just curious.@@thehonestchannel

[@plejaren1]

What do you MEAN? I've seen a youtuber who's 70--- and she looks 30! BECAUSE she has used tretinoin every day for 40 years!

[@thehonestchannel]

He’s saying it disturbs our microflora. It also undoubtedly has a skin smoothing effect. Both are possible.

[@le_th_]

I have to almost laugh at these multi-step rituals that content creators are posting? Honestly, I can hardly believe people are not only failing to see through this for what it is, but also buying into this overt "more more more" marketing nonsense. Then you have others paying exorbitant prices for what equates to moisturizer? I suppose it really is this easy to dupe others...

[@thehonestchannel]

Yes, I guess it’s the sense of not wanting to miss out on that magic ingredient that will make all the difference. I hope we are finally reaching a turning point where the trend moves towards minimalist routines.

[@marthaj67]

They prey on women's insecurities due to aging because we live in SUCH a youth-oriented culture! And they know that "more mature" women are usually the ones with the extra cash to spend on these products. They've got the marketing down to a science. They know exactly what they're doing!

[@Lizajane14]

Seems to be quite a bit of fear mongering here. A lot of blaming on marketing for products while marketing his own. It is interesting information, and may be right, but feels like force feeding and blaming in order to sell his own products and pat himself on the back. Yikes 😬