#5 The Science Behind Tesla Silicon // Cracking the Silicon Code

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The Limiting Factor

The Limiting Factor

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4 жыл бұрын
Class is batteries 101. Your instructor is Jordan Giesige.
@hadioktasuio4054
@hadioktasuio4054 4 жыл бұрын
Insta-click 😉👍
@ajtrvll
@ajtrvll 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of your content is unequaled, amazing, and very much appreciated!!
@peterlewis4199
@peterlewis4199 4 жыл бұрын
Your research is amazing. Thank you.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@cleanitup_pls7893
@cleanitup_pls7893 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jordan, this is one I was really waiting for. Thanks for making the picture much clearer re the "Silicon Anode" which now I understand is much more than Silicon :). This might be worth looking into: "HPQ Silicon announced that its partner, Apollon Solar of France, has delivered the first batch of carbon coated nano silicon powders to Professor Lionel Roué at the Institut National de la Recherche Scientifique (INRS) for evaluation." HPQ is a Canadian company.
@delkroupa
@delkroupa 4 жыл бұрын
I would hate to lose Jordan's videos, but he is just the type of person that Tesla needs on their skunkworks team.
@635574
@635574 4 жыл бұрын
Wht do we know, maybe he is secretly already working with them and just pretends to be 3rd party youtuber.
@grambo1980
@grambo1980 4 жыл бұрын
They are hiring battery engineers
@constructioneerful
@constructioneerful 4 жыл бұрын
I actually said 'yihoo' out loud when I saw you in my KZbin notifications...
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@tlowee
@tlowee 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor I understand this level and quality of content takes time, but ya I was stoked too. 🙂
@Felipe8522
@Felipe8522 4 жыл бұрын
This is almost like reading "Ignition! An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants", and that's equally baffling how chemistry could be so much fun. Nice video, I could listen for hours!
4 жыл бұрын
1:23 I didn't knew I wanted a 10 part series on Silicon.. Please do it!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
lol, there'll be a few at least....
@addersladders2957
@addersladders2957 4 жыл бұрын
How long before Elon comes knocking and offers you a job! Outstanding 👏👏
@matthewabogado2834
@matthewabogado2834 4 жыл бұрын
I think he has already
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN 3 жыл бұрын
This is my go to channel I listen to to pretend to understand modern battery's. Interesting how material sciences are so valuable again.
@alexng4
@alexng4 3 жыл бұрын
i'm pretty sure folks at Tesla are already know about this stuff.
4 жыл бұрын
Wow It is incredible that you can summary the most advanced topics into an worldwide accessible platform. I bet you are inspiring and will continue to inspire a lot of people. Thanks for your hard work, your content is truly unique.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@timyarrow8844
@timyarrow8844 4 жыл бұрын
These Limiting Factor series of battery cell presentations are among the most consequential, relevant, fascinating, and informative Tesla content on the internet. Many thanks, Jordan, for your research and reporting.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
That's a hell of a compliment! Thanks Tim!
@40watt_club
@40watt_club 4 жыл бұрын
please do a 10part series on silicon ... make my head hurt hard :-)
@derrickstableford8152
@derrickstableford8152 4 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of HPQ Silicone? They are shipping silicone particles to a major auto manufacturer for testing.
@carlsapartments8931
@carlsapartments8931 4 жыл бұрын
silicon... silicone is different product.
@Bumbdididi
@Bumbdididi 4 жыл бұрын
Hpq silicon !!! No silicone hahaha
@ronaldfradet4033
@ronaldfradet4033 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks jordan Great Graphics that really helps to grasp the understanding of the materials. Looking forward to your next video
@danxchen
@danxchen 4 жыл бұрын
Good piece, Thanks! Comments:1. Polymer coating TSLA is working on may or may not be only one component/composition. Polyrotaxane is not as electronically conductive. They may need a copolymeric approach using something like PVP or Poly pyrrole 2. There are ways to make silicon forest cheaper nowadays, I think.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for the insight! Great when someone with deep knowledge contributes in the comments.
@bigreaper7425
@bigreaper7425 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan I can't get over that intro music. One of favorites.
@tlowee
@tlowee 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, loving that!
@joe2mercs
@joe2mercs 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always a feast of information. Battery development is like examining all the possible moves in the middle of a chess game in which avenues that initially look promising are often brought up short by show stopping issues later on. It is evident that the problems are complicated and no easy solutions immediately present themselves. So thank you for walking through these issues in an intelligent, logical and thought provoking presentation. As a compendium of the current state of battery development your videos are without parallel.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT analogy! You're most welcome!
@JoseVazquez-ru1nn
@JoseVazquez-ru1nn 4 жыл бұрын
easily becoming one of my favorite channels. After a warm shower, I will grab a fresh cup of coffee and take notes on today's class: silicon and batteries! Awesome.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear I'm not the only one needing notes to digest this!!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Point of note: Shirley Meng is using my videos in her curriculum now as homework 😀
@JoseVazquez-ru1nn
@JoseVazquez-ru1nn 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor I like Shirley! I follow her on Twitter. weird, I just responded to one of her tweets before you commented this. Excellent news man! Hopefully she gives you credit at some point lol
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor Praise indeed! (Do we have to take a bended knee as we open the video's henceforth?) 😁😉
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoseVazquez-ru1nn She did and we have a lot planned 🤠
@jamesowens7176
@jamesowens7176 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! You are one of my favorite science educators at the moment!
@LarsPallesen
@LarsPallesen 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great deep dive into the cell chemistry behind Tesla's new cells. Great research on this one, Jordan! Already looking forward to the next one.
@andyonions7864
@andyonions7864 4 жыл бұрын
You are surpassing your usual high standards. Fantastic stuff. I'm really looking forward to your Battery Day cathode video.
@johndorthy7428
@johndorthy7428 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan, what are you thoughts on HPQ Silicon one step nano silcon process? Will this provide the savings that Tesla needs? Even though it is from an outside source. It seems as though HPQ will be able to customize the silicon depending upon who needs it. Thoughts?
@dewiz9596
@dewiz9596 4 жыл бұрын
“It wouldn’t be Tesla’s style to not solve a problem with first order principles”. Or words to that effect. You’ve just defined the reason for Tesla’s stock price.
@bkinstler
@bkinstler 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you once again - your content is essential, first-rate, in-depth briefing for anyone interested in battery engineering! Thank you for creating such clear, meaningful, and deeply informative content that the world very much needs to learn about. I only wish there were a channel covering solar panel technology of a similar quality…. Suggestions?
@BearsOnASubmarine
@BearsOnASubmarine 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff, Jordan. This one was had a very crisp extra edge to it, the great work keeps on improving.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Crispy is the goal 😁
@aaronweatherson4379
@aaronweatherson4379 3 жыл бұрын
Holy Zapp, Batteryman - the process is going non-linear...!
@johnryan8645
@johnryan8645 4 жыл бұрын
I love your diligence in finding the underlying papers! I am more impressed than ever. Thank you.
@charlesfeng3823
@charlesfeng3823 3 жыл бұрын
1, As particles, less than 150nm will cause a significant increase of SEI impact Tesla using Miron-level Si particles; 2, Tesla using elastic binders (Polyrotaxanes, SiLion) and polymer coating (spandex) to avoid SEI crack and make the structure reversible during battery processes (expand and shrink); 3, Tesla add graphite into Silicon to increase conductivity; In that silicon graphite (low cost and easy produce from talga) 4, New electrolyte:tetrahydrofuran and 2 methyl-tetrahydrofuran
@nicholasklufas2559
@nicholasklufas2559 4 жыл бұрын
As always, super impressed and thankful for your videos.
@Ryannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
@Ryannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn 4 жыл бұрын
I might need some people to make videos about this video. This is maybe the first time I’ve felt like maybe I need a Cliff’s Notes version. Or I just need to watch the video when I’m sober.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
lol, yeah, there really is room for a channel that breaks down my videos. There are some people doing it in other languages.
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor When every video is out covering battery day, please make a playlist for it. Watching all of them in one go would be hell of a ride! :D Great work!
@leomharl68manuba18
@leomharl68manuba18 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jordan. Can you look at HPQ Silicon company. Thanks
@jaykoehn4106
@jaykoehn4106 4 жыл бұрын
This is the only place on KZbin that goes into detail on these topics and I love it!!
@vtr-vegasteslarides569
@vtr-vegasteslarides569 3 жыл бұрын
You are awesome, smart and great way to put it in ways I can even grasp to understand...emphasis on grasp.
@raddaks2039
@raddaks2039 4 жыл бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that just the tabless design alone was game-changing by itself. I see battery day as an announcement of everything they are working on and a series of things that they'll be rolling out in the coming years to continue decreasing battery cost. Tabless is obviously a lot further along than high-silicon at the current moment. Thanks for the overview! It's really cool tech, and your first-principles, cost-based focus on it is super practical and has a lot higher chance of being correct than the silicon-nanowire-esque moonshots. Also, if this is the executive summary, I can't wait for the deep dive. XD
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Nice insights and feedback!
@magnamic5614
@magnamic5614 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, my friend.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I appreciate your support.
@benfriedman5916
@benfriedman5916 4 жыл бұрын
I hit thumbs up during the intro music. Guaranteed gold medal content every time!
@ismailnyeyusof3520
@ismailnyeyusof3520 4 жыл бұрын
Very well researched content, by a very passionate battery technology KZbinr!
@sapth7
@sapth7 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos for the simple reason that you clearly disambiguate facts, opinions and speculations. Clearly you do a lot of research before making the videos. Kudos!!! Looking forward to your next video.
@Finlaymacnab
@Finlaymacnab 4 жыл бұрын
If you keep this up you're going to have to get a chemistry graduate degree.
@d2cheung
@d2cheung 4 жыл бұрын
No degree needed. He is my professor of choice!
@13thbiosphere
@13thbiosphere 2 жыл бұрын
90% irrelevant ....
@FritzSchober
@FritzSchober 4 жыл бұрын
Mind blowing research on your side. Thank you very much.
@WarrenRedlich
@WarrenRedlich 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as usual Jordan.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Warren!
@omrigodijn933
@omrigodijn933 4 жыл бұрын
I just had no idea how much was packed into Battery day. Sandy got me searching, then I found you & this is such a brilliant series. Thank you - just 'joined' the channel. I actually skipped over you a couple of months ago because I clicked & got voice & graphics. I mistakenly thought you were one of those weird channels that spit out press release content without any insight 🤣.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
lol, all good. Thanks for the insight. That provides more incentive to do animation instead of showing headlines.
@oebydoeby
@oebydoeby 4 жыл бұрын
Great and clear explanation. This video clearly took allot of time in research.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Straight up! Lots of consultation with people at the top of the field.
@babbaracos
@babbaracos 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jorden!! Looking forward to the next one!!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome!
@NinetyTres
@NinetyTres 4 жыл бұрын
I am such a nerd Love these studies Great job
@grant3226
@grant3226 4 жыл бұрын
Even though some of this is way out of my understanding, I still got most of what you were saying. Great presentation
@KPHDMEMANISHMISHRA
@KPHDMEMANISHMISHRA 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for sharing, highly informative content. its well organized. Pls continue such kind of good work for the society :)
@ulfasplund3514
@ulfasplund3514 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the ten part series. You make batteries very interesting. I am a happy Patreon. :-)
@xian2708
@xian2708 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, now gonna watch heaps of your videos
@punditgi
@punditgi 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Well done! One small note: micron is obsolete. Please use micrometre instead. Looking forward to future videos! 😃
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Micron is slang and obsolete, but understood and an easier shorthand.
@punditgi
@punditgi 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor The whole point behind metric is a standard uniform system of measurement. If you want to go with obsolete, you might as well just use Imperial, right? 😉
@rookiebird9382
@rookiebird9382 Жыл бұрын
If silicon nanowire adds $100/KWh manufacturing costs on top of the existing battery costs but resulting in 100% increase of the energy density, a 100 KWh battery pack will cost $10,000 more but weigh 50% less. This result is highly desirable by high-end models.
@olegs79
@olegs79 4 жыл бұрын
Scientific proof that nothing in life is free. Good video.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Oleg!
@joesmackunstable
@joesmackunstable 4 жыл бұрын
High five! You should be very proud of your excellent work Jordan.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always Jeff!
@PWGWORKSHOP
@PWGWORKSHOP 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how many people have commented on you working for or with Tesla.. I was thinking the same thing watching this episode..So-ahhh..Jordan, when are you moving to Austin..??? 😉🔋⚡️😂
@yourlydontknowjack
@yourlydontknowjack 4 жыл бұрын
you cannot use THF based electrolyte for high-voltage cathodes (anything other than LFP) because it anodically oxidizes above 3.4 V :)
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for the information.
@aljawisa
@aljawisa 4 жыл бұрын
As a side issue could you possibly discuss 'power on demand' devices such as the E-Cat, and brilliant light powers sun cell system.
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 4 жыл бұрын
BLP has done hundred hour runs of a 250 kW Sun Cell. They have a KZbin channel with videos, occasionally narrated, usually not. kzbin.info Here is a good video that lays the technology out at the "executive summary" level: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHiXaWt-mLh8sNU Their technology is based on new physics, and will cause a lot of heads to explode. It's hard to argue with the heat they're generating, though.
@aljawisa
@aljawisa 4 жыл бұрын
@@incognitotorpedo42 I knew he wouldn't address my comment, but I have to put these brainiacs to the test. The stuff I referenced is undeniable stuff. Even internal combustion engines are not played out yet..aka Walter Jenkins, David Yurth. Rex Research, and the Thomas Bearden website are full of things that would make these peoples heads explode. Looking closely at Elon Musk, I believe 'the powers that shouldn't be' have allowed Musk to do what he has done. Without the vaccines I'm sure my IQ would have much higher, so I don't need any cyber whatever, to enhance my brain. (I just need to survive into God's Kingdom; a whole different topic) But those same powers do everything in their power to inhibit human intelligence. Eliminating those vaccines would cause an increase in the rate of human intelligence, especially among the newly born. Not to mention what Bearden talks about in re-engineering the ways in which we transmit information or electricity, ultimately eliminating or greatly reducing electromagnetic pollution. Besides that even Bearden talks about basically doing a 'Jesus Christs,' by triggering and controlling the cells in the body to basically regrow missing parts like a lizards tail. If you didn't have it in the first place as an embryo, what caused it to grow and then stop. So there's ultimately no need for artificial limbs controlled by neuralink. Bet they regrown limbs have done this in an area 51 lab, with all those other Slim Shady clones. I did find some research on that particular topic in the past, but it might be hard to find it now. humanlimbregeneration.com/how-can-stem-cells-regrow-limbs/ www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-scientists-plan-grow-new-limbs-amputees-stem-cells-1515611 In addition most of these science channels on youtube are in the stone ages. To me these people are like Dr. McCoy, in Star Trek 4, complaining about drilling holes in Chekov's head. I found a few channels on youtube talking about how to remineralize your enamel and dentin. I tried the formula, from one of the channels, and after about 6 months, the two carries in both of my teeth had mostly remeneralized. The tooth that was more natural with smaller old fillings regrew more than the tooth that had more fillings. Thank god the tooth with more fillings had a small carry. I'll check again in 6 more months to see if they completely recover. My point is that if just listen to 'the powers that shouldn't be,' you'll never get the "best" answer you're looking for, it's usually a complicated compromise, where you're never truly free. You're just an ATM to them. One day, as I've heard, Elon will stop selling Teslas. Basically those powers never want you to be free. Theirs a lot of perspectives on that 'I won't sell Teslas anymore' I don't feel like typing about. But It help me to see why Elon was allowed to produce the things he wants. Only elites will make it to mars. Cyber link will make it more easy for the government to control your brain. (I personally think there are 2 levels of mind control, but the higher level form of mind vs mental state mind control needs much more specific attention to the individual, such as drugging them. The mental state mind control is very broad.{5G} neuralink will be much more personal and allow the hacking vote stealing government to directly control what you see. Plus more people will buy into cyberlink according to the hype I'm hearing. But I suppose you could use both 5G and neuralink together to turn many into Al Rokers, or Britney Spears, or Mark Suckerberg) I know Elon is not the man you (me) think he is. And from time to time he'll slip up, and reveal he absolutely does know about non-Newtonian physics (if he gets to Mars or the Moon its a grave yard of higher dimensional ether physics devices/artifacts that basically flip the bird to Newton, that he'll have access to study{maybe like data's head}), kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2KmaHePgMSKZqM and deeper conspiracies. He may be playing some kind of game where he might be using the NWO's plans like Judo, where he does what they want but at some point the things he set in place may be used against them. It's hard to determine what the guys plans are. Don't know weather he's a good guy or a bad guy. But I can see how bad people can use the things he's trying to pursue to harm or control the public. Did I forget to mention AI. CALCIUM CARBONATE, DIATOMACEOUS EARTH, BENTONITE CLAY, HIMALAYAN SALT, COCONUT OIL, VITAMIN K2 (BREAK THE CAPSULES OR GRIND THEM UP) MAGNESIUM, POTASSIUM, PEPPERMINT, WHEAT GRASS www.theothersideofmidnight.com/2018-02-10-jay-weidner/ www.theothersideofmidnight.com/2018-02-03_johnston_troy/ www.theothersideofmidnight.com/20190107_morningstar/
@artsnow8872
@artsnow8872 4 жыл бұрын
@@aljawisa Technology isn't the enemy. Any technology can be used for good, or for bad. See some of the old tv shows called The Outer Limits for examples
@aljawisa
@aljawisa 4 жыл бұрын
@@artsnow8872 I don't believe I said it was the enemy. Besides I've read that statement from Thomas Bearden many times, as well as him saying it audibly. So I don't have an issue there.
@daveduran8158
@daveduran8158 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you such in-depth videos for us.
@bladilac6757
@bladilac6757 3 жыл бұрын
damn i never expected this video to be as good as it is. godly content.
@batterybulletin
@batterybulletin 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Jordan! My personal opinion is it won't be the polymers you mentioned and definetely not THF as an electrolyte solvent for Si or Si/Gr composites.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely be surprised as well if I actually got it right! Which polymer and electrolyte look promising to you?
@RJ_Chicago
@RJ_Chicago 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan, excellent presentation! Given what you presented, does either Nano One, Talga Resouces and/or Novonix have a significant role in this prospective new technology battery production? Thanks.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
No way to know! I think Tesla will be hoovering up all available resources in about 3-5 years. If you can make it and it's good quality at a good price, they'll buy it.
@RJ_Chicago
@RJ_Chicago 4 жыл бұрын
@@garry8390 Hi Barry. I verified what you wrote with additional research. That tells me A LOT. Thanks!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
@@garry8390 I saw that. Things are looking DAMN good for Talga. The are my second biggest investment after Tesla.
@tlowee
@tlowee 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor my biggest. 🙏
@tt3kgtvr4
@tt3kgtvr4 4 жыл бұрын
Faster charging rate video? Yes please!!
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 4 жыл бұрын
Found you today. Thanks for the very informative presentation. You're an excellent teacher. Subscribed.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛🤠 Cheers!
@graphiteevolutiongraphenom1769
@graphiteevolutiongraphenom1769 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla will almost certainly just use TALGA silicon anodes in their batteries. Since Mr Musk spent 2 days in Sweden recently. Seems a high probability.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest and highest grade graphite mine in Europe...I think so too :)
@Medal-EED
@Medal-EED 3 жыл бұрын
I am invested in NOU.V a graphite miner/processer but I am worried that silicone will replace graphite in LI-battery anodes, HPQ.V is creating the Nano silicone particles using plasma touches. Thank you for the informative video, it helps me better understand the battery supply chain.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 жыл бұрын
Covered in other videos 😁
@LaTerreurDuRang10
@LaTerreurDuRang10 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! What is your opinion on the silicon nanopowder manufacturing technique using plasma reactors developed by HPQ Silicon and Pyrogenesis?
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Next video
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Ope! Correction. Video after next. Getting my videos mixed up.
@AbhishekSoni-fv2ks
@AbhishekSoni-fv2ks 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff and deep dive , Jordan. Could you attach the link for the papers as well in the description or on Reddit. Much appreciated.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
No Time! I'm literally working two jobs here and doing the equivalent of a PHD while doing scripting, voicework, accounting, artistic direction, and relationship management.
@AbhishekSoni-fv2ks
@AbhishekSoni-fv2ks 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor you need help mate, Especially with the research stuff? Kudos to your amazing work. I definitely looked them up based on your video though. I remember about your tax department job , but two jobs definitely is a lot. Take care.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
@@AbhishekSoni-fv2ks I wish there was a way! The only think that makes sense to have contributors who make videos for the channel. That would give me some breathing room to make content and research.
@JoyceWSolomon
@JoyceWSolomon 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan, I love your content. Keep up the good work
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joyce!
@JoyceWSolomon
@JoyceWSolomon 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor you'er welcome
@hxteng5348
@hxteng5348 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla is pushing boundaries in almost EVERY front, this literally science fiction come to life.
@handris99
@handris99 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember the Tesla earnings call when Elon almost said too much before battery day? He used the words "this is like alien technology". Sure seems like that after this video.
@andrepiotrowski5668
@andrepiotrowski5668 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jordan, what do you know about SALD (Spatial Atom Layer Deposition)? Could that be the future?
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe. However, it would be more efficient to mix the right chemicals have them self-form automatically. I haven't looked into it deeply yet. I do like that it's a dry process.
@drew210461
@drew210461 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr Giesige!!!
@VincentVanWersch
@VincentVanWersch 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive work 💪
@jarenb2331
@jarenb2331 4 жыл бұрын
Question for anyone. Has it been noted if the 4680 using Silicon and techniques mentioned in battery day will be in the cybertruck or will it use existing tech as they scale the dry electrode machines and pilot line before Austin is finished?
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
No word yet
@jarenb2331
@jarenb2331 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor thanks for the reply. Please let us know if you hear anything on that. :)
@GR-sg2lv
@GR-sg2lv 4 жыл бұрын
Great video ! I love the science behind the innovation Tesla is coming up with.
@energyparticle
@energyparticle 3 жыл бұрын
Enovix has a silicon anode batteries. I think the are building their fist factory now. Great vid, thank you
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, them and about 25 other start-ups. I'll be interested to see who survives
@energyparticle
@energyparticle 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor With TJ Rodgers behind them it's very promising. You will like the tech category of how the solved the 4 silicon problems. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qICzoZV5qL1kms0
@NickoSwimmer
@NickoSwimmer 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jordan for the great in-depth video. Hope you have a safe and happy holidays! TSLA 2021 going to be BIG!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
You too man!
@roberttaylor3594
@roberttaylor3594 3 жыл бұрын
Any opinion on HPQ silicon's process for nanowire and powders and how it might fit in with Tesla's batteries?
@vanekirk
@vanekirk 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work. I liked and subscribed.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@malekmalek9064
@malekmalek9064 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. What's you opinion on HPA high purity alumina as a nanocoating for silicone anodes ?
@nakfan
@nakfan 4 жыл бұрын
Great 👍 Another video from The Limiting Factor ...
@jonschmid5383
@jonschmid5383 4 жыл бұрын
Soo much good information! Thank you for your time!
@jameshood7031
@jameshood7031 3 жыл бұрын
Question for the author: Does this development by Tesla reduce the upside story for Talga that you have previously presented on (given that Graphite composite lifecycle cost is US$10.2/Kwh vs Tesla's stated cost of US$1.2/KWh)? Great presentations by the way
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 жыл бұрын
Not in my view. Talga has already factored silicon in...check out the 'Disrupting Silicon' Video.
@user-wy4mp9ts3u
@user-wy4mp9ts3u 3 жыл бұрын
Biological silica dioxide is a very different beast than naturally occurring silicon dioxide(sand),it is the old diatomic earth amorphous silica.There has been research in battery technology with this stuff I read in a paper somewhere a few years ago and that it had a form of electrical conductivity proton transport they think;is this possibly the mystery silica?
@Yahgiggle
@Yahgiggle 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool, Can not wait for tesla to start rolling out their own production line batteries whatever technologies they use , i think once the production line is up, knowing Elon he will advance that line and keep advancing it, the next ten years will be very interesting, hope tesla do another type battery day in the coming years.
@jamesellis4899
@jamesellis4899 4 жыл бұрын
Great deep dive. Thank you so much.
@randallparent7416
@randallparent7416 4 жыл бұрын
I’m all in on Tesla, and love these videos. Fascinating to me how this can be achieved. But I have one question. In your opinion why will Tesla be the first to do this? Seems like companies that make batteries for a living would be innovating and making strides into this area. Why just Tesla? At least for now. Or am I wrong, others are?
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever worked in a large organisation? Most are horribly inefficient, despite having the benefit of scale. That scale does give them an edge. However, 80% of the brain power remains underutilised. This is Tesla's greatest achievement....getting shit done. That's a topic for another video.
@randallparent7416
@randallparent7416 4 жыл бұрын
I do work for a very large organization, and your right....I see it every day. That makes sense to me. Vertical integration and cutting the red tape corporate BS out of the way anything is possible. Thanks. Consider me a definite fan of the channel 👍
@danielpabbott
@danielpabbott 4 жыл бұрын
This video was incredible... wow...
@Quroxify
@Quroxify 4 жыл бұрын
I love your graphs. Can you share your secret to making great excel or whatever?
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful.ai 🤠
@matthewabogado2834
@matthewabogado2834 4 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video. 🙏 Graphics are getting better. Definitely a move up from a toilet paper roll. 😁
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@artsnow8872
@artsnow8872 4 жыл бұрын
That wasn't toilet paper. That was a large battery cell -- the new 120110 (one twenty one ten)!
@pasanperera3785
@pasanperera3785 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to have the transcript of your videos :) They are jam-packed with info
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
At some point I need to find a way to post them! Maybe website.
@alexl266
@alexl266 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jordan! This was one topic I've been waiting to learn about! Love the work you do!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Alex!
@Manish-lk8pi
@Manish-lk8pi 4 жыл бұрын
This is so comprehensive.. I'll definitely recommend your channel to some geeks i know.. btw how big is your team for all this research
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Manish! Just me! I do everything. There is no one to delegate anything to, and believe me I've tried. Researchers have brains for research, artists have brains for art, etc. I haven't found someone yet who can sythesize and pull all these pieces together. If I could find someone like that, they'd probably have their own channel anyways...I don't make enough to hire someone and they'd earn more making a separate channel.
@SedamBisera
@SedamBisera 4 жыл бұрын
Extreamly well presented and very interesting as is all today related to Elon Musk.
@stcredzero
@stcredzero 4 жыл бұрын
The canisters in the Battery Day production line videos have a flange that makes them larger at the top. Is that significant? Considering that "the best part is no part," either this is going to disappear going forward, or it will server a particular purpose.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly, it's something I'm looking into
@khuo0219
@khuo0219 4 жыл бұрын
My hoodie arrived today too, coincidence?
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 жыл бұрын
lol, the stars have aligned
@thegigisup7
@thegigisup7 3 жыл бұрын
Question: the functionality of the anode is to store the lithium ions and electrons when charged, I am wondering how coating the SEI layer with a polymer and possibly a ‘slippery layer’ affects the ability of lithium to travel into the graphite/silicon? Thanks for the great video!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It doesn't appear that the slippery layer affects the 'kinetics' of the ions much at all based on what I saw in the paper.
@thegigisup7
@thegigisup7 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor thanks for clarifying!
@rubenmalaga
@rubenmalaga 4 жыл бұрын
2000 like dislike ratio is out of this world. Congratulations!
@no_more_free_nicks
@no_more_free_nicks 4 жыл бұрын
10 part series on silicone would be great :)
@jamesbell8861
@jamesbell8861 4 жыл бұрын
I look forward to these videos !!! Thanks.
@morkovija
@morkovija 4 жыл бұрын
НЕ сcompression algorithm really had to seat on that video =)
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