The Lost Legend of Zelda Trilogy We Never Got

Originally called the Triforce Series, Nintendo created the Oracle of Seasons, originally known as Mystical Seed of Power, and Oracle of Ages games in collaboration with Capcom and Flagship. Let's examine these games to see what made them great and how they hold up today. Also, what happened to the canceled third game in this trilogy? I learned a lot making this video
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00:00 - The Lost Triforce Series
01:54 - The Story of Oracle of Seasons
04:27 - The World of Holodrum
07:45 - Dungeons of Oracle of Seasons
10:00 - The Development of the Triforce Series
13:37 - The Story of Oracle of Seasons - Part 2
16:00 - Secrets and Rings
17:31 - The Story of Oracle of Ages
20:36 - The World of Labrynna
21:41 - Dungeons of Oracle of Seasons
24:16 - The Cancelled Third Oracle Game
27:08 - Differences in Linked Games
28:18 - The Story of Oracle of Ages - Part 2
32:58 - The Finale
35:58 - 100% Completion and Unfinished Business
37:46 - Where is this in the Zelda Timeline?
#LegendofZelda #ALinktothePast #originoracle #thementok
Gameplay Sources:
Link's Awakening Gameplay - packattack04082
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons (Linked) - Rheylis - • The Legend of Zelda: ...
Music:
Zelda: Majora's Mask - The Giant's Theme\
Nayru's Song - NaiTortus - • Nayru's Song
Oracle of Seasons Remastered - Full OST - OkamiDeluxe • Oracle of Seasons Rema...
Oracle of Seasons - Maku Tree's Theme
Oracle of Seasons/Ages- Essences Theme
Link's Awakening - Overworld
Oracle of Seasons - Horon Village
Link's Awakening - Color Dungeon
Oracle of Seasons - Dancing Dragon Dungeon
Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks - Overworld
Oracle of Seasons - The Tower Top Floor and General Onox's Castle
Oracle of Seasons - Final Battle Against Onox
Link's Awakening - Trendy Game
Nayru's song (NaiTortus) Vocal Cover - Charmie Sweets - • Nayru's song (NaiTortu...
Oracle of Seasons - Castle of Despair
Oracle of Ages - Black Tower
Oracle of Ages - Overworld (Past)
Oracle of Ages - Tokay Island
Oracle of Ages - Mermaid's Cave
Oracle of Ages - Jabu Jabu's Belly
Twilight Princess - Kakariko Village
Oracle of Seasons/Ages - Gorons
Oracle of Ages - Skull Dungeon
Oracle of Ages - Secret Maze on the Sea of No Return
Oracle of Ages - The Room of Rites
Oracle of Ages - Secret Battle 1 VS Twinrova!
Oracle of Ages - Secret Battle 2 VS Ganon
Ending Theme 2 - Princess Zelda Rescued!
Credits and Staff Roll

[@TheMentok]

This video was supposed to be half this length.

[@nightwatch3889]

Lmao

[@dustybees6308]

I love long form content so that works for me.

[@nightwatch3889]

@@dustybees6308 amen

[@KtCleansAlot]

I really enjoy the longer videos, Keep up the great work!

[@damiencouturee6240]

That's quite alright. It could be twice this length and I'd still watch lol

[@AngelPerez-tu1nk]

These games deserve the same remake treatment Link's Awakening got.

[@MitoRequiem]

Maybe a bit better than that I'd hope anyways lol

[@DrogaDigital]

@@MitoRequiem why? the Link's awakening remake was a piece of art, and not too many nonsense shit added. I Liked it a lot.

[@mrgreatbigmoose]

They should really market the New Game Plus angle. Such a simple pair of games having 40 hours or more would really jive with today's expectations.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Here's the thing. These games used the same engine on the GBC as Link's Awakening. They remade Link's Awakening. So they can use the remake's engine to remake these. It would work perfectly.

[@andreatassieri478]

literally came down here to comment this, i love playing the new links awakening, as a new player who wasnt born when the original came out, and would love to experience these games also remade

[@KonKaji]

Man, I remember being a child and loving the commercial for Season/Ages everytime it came out on TV back then. I only had Ages, and played it for hours and beat it so many times too

[@darkisatari]

The key was to have a friend who got the other one. For me it was a cousin who got seasons and then I got ages. I met another kids who nonchalantly mentioned he had both and thought “what a spoiled rich kid” lol. Of course I ended up getting seasons for myself anyway

[@elliotlevy8610]

One crazy idea for a Farore storyline was to have Farore is that she is actually playing an instrumental role in ensuring that Link is successful. After all, the entire secrets system implies that Link is somehow able to convey future knowledge to his past self, use that to obtain some new item, and then collect that item in the present as well. This involves some level of manipulating time to his advantage, which is consistent since both Din and Nayru do manipulate time in one way or another. The idea is that Twinrova had a failsafe plan for Farore in case their plan failed. As for the villain who would do this, I decided that the jeweler Vasu and his snakes would be an ironic twist. They are the only other place where secrets can be used.

[@Fjado]

if they had to scrap the third game, maybe they just retconned link's awakening to have been the game of courage

[@lorenabuck5841]

Would make Sense because in that Game you Fight Nightmares you have to overcome

[@ruily276]

Especially considering they added a color dungeon to the DX and Switch version of the game.

[@isgamer-8732]

​@@ruily276 DX came out before the Oracle games

[@MechaOracle]

Nah, Minish Cap, it was made by Capcom.

[@isgamer-8732]

@@MechaOracle That's a different Link though. It should get remade though, I mean the Wind Waker HD Assets are right there.

[@tc6103]

the oracle games are so amazing but overlooked

[@SaintAbsol]

I genuinely consider the Oracle games the most underrated Zelda games. Wish they got the attention they deserved.

[@darkisatari]

Translation note: the Subrosians are still called the “Uura”(ウーラ族) in Japanese OoS. It’s a play on the word “ura” (裏) meaning like “back/reverse side” or “hidden.” So it could have worked as another dimension or underground, either way. Personally I prefer the localized term for its creativity.

[@BirdieSenpai]

I always found it a bit odd that most folks think Seasons happens first, followed by Ages, when, in linked versions, Onox remarks that Link must have defeated Veran, while Veran makes no remark about Onox. Clarification: Hyrule Encylopedia stating OoX Link is the same as ALttp and LA despite coming after is a translation error; in the original Japanese, he is described as a separate Link.

[@colossusequinox5388]

But what about the manga it is in the manga that ages come after seasons

[@padfoot69]

​@@colossusequinox5388 the manga are never canon

[@randomspider725]

I think Hyrule Encyclopedia retconned that info, TBH. At the end of the Linked Game for both OOA and OOS, the credits end with Link sailing off on a boat, the exact same boat as in Link’s Awakening. I think it was the original intention for it to be the same Link.

[@isaac3000]

My point exactly, so Ages comes first.

[@bruzzunathtuch]

Yeah, Ages comes first ^^'

[@Lazypackmule]

Minish Cap is basically Oracle of Secrets, given the focus on exploration with essentially a second version of the world hidden within the regular one

[@srboromir452]

Coolest thing was coming back 10 years or so after I beat Seasons and buying Ages on 3DS and the codes just working from my 10 year old save on a different console

[@LinkEX]

I mean, the 3DS ports are basically emulations of the Game Body originals, aren't they? So it's the exact same rules for the cypher, given you used the same name for the file.

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

@@LinkEX I think they removed the link function but that's it.

[@TheOriginalJphyper]

These games were my introduction to the Legend of Zelda franchise, which makes it very disappointing that no one ever talks about them.

[@pattmahiney]

For real, though... Seasons was so ridiculously fun. Finally getting Dmitri was like the pride of my childhood. Had hours and hours of fun in that little volcano village with the Goroks (or whatever they were called)... I remember the little like dancing mini game they had. Great stuff.

[@TheOriginalJphyper]

@@pattmahiney The Goron dancing minigame was in Ages. The Seasons dancing minigame was with the Subrosians.

[@AlmyTheAlien]

20:23 "Your wife NEVER leaves the house? EVER? That seems a bit regressive-" "How many times do I need to explain that she's literally rooted to the ground?"

[@napoleonfeanor]

Let's just be honest. Nintendo doesn't think about a real time line in Zelda games and just tries to fit things together retroactively

[@RobynHood1021]

And it gets complicated…

[@MousaThe14]

Oracle of Ages was my first ever Zelda game so I’ll always show up when someone talks about these games. While I did always know about the 3 game thing and whatnot, your explanation for which of the original trilogy became the eventual duology is new to me and explains to me specifically why all material I encountered always treated Seasons as the first of the two games. When I got Ages as a kid I also had an official strategy guide which covered both Oracle games and the thing that always bothered me was how it treated Seasons as the one you’re supposed to play first. Honestly the strategy guide was my only motivation for wanting to get the second game. And you know, despite having a tight video game budget similar to yourself I was able to get seasons eventually as a kid and got to enjoy all the password shenanigans therein. Nevertheless, I do await the day that these games get their dues in remakes and for the possible third game to come to fruition under the right team and the right idea. I do have hope for that since Hidemaru Fujibayashi was part of Flagship and he’s such a prominent person in the Zelda team today.

[@GalekC]

it was my very first zelda game that i got, for my gameboy (advance) for my birthday at the start of 2002. so, technically my very first game not precisely shared, along with Shrek Fairy Tale FREAKdown

[@latenightgaming5057]

I remember having the strategy guide for season. And for a while I packed it everywhere. To school, everywhere. To the point it started to break. I loved looking at the artwork for hrs. I love and miss them both

[@Miss_Rydia]

I remember getting Oracle of Seasons because I had a mega kid crush on Din, while my older brother got Oracle of Ages a year or so later, so I was eventually able to play both! Never got very far, though, despite having a strategy guide...

[@darkisatari]

Whaaa you should revisit those. Definitely worth completing

[@TaroLoaf]

Lmao my man

[@nicksrandomreviews]

So, weird suggestion: I highly recommend checking out the novelization of these games. Yes. It exists. In English. They were COYA novels, and relatively short. They also tried to incorporate the link mechanic from the games INTO A DAMN BOOK! Weirdly, my parents refused to get me a GNC back in the day, so...the books are the way I got to experience these two games as a child.

[@catgirl_works]

The Oracle games have always been my favorite Zelda games, and i still have a lot of fun playing them again from time to time. Mostly. I definitely agree that Ages is the more polished of the two. Seasons is an absolute slog to get through. Its a real shame we never got to see the third game. Storywise, I can understand that how much of a nightmare it would have been to link everything together into a coherent story that works regardless of which order you play in. I never bought the excuse that they couldn't make it work with the password system. I reverse engineered them several years ago and the passwords are incredibly simple. I think they only mentioned them as an excuse because the secrets just look like nonsense to most players.

[@GalekC]

i do prefer seasons on the bgm side of things, tho', until we get closer to the final dungeons of ages

[@PowerPandaMods]

They've stated before that the Oracle of Secrets content was spit up. Most of what they had made it into Seasons to help differentiate that game from its Zelda 1 remake origins. Some made it into Ages to fill in spots they hadn't planned yet. And some made it into Link's Awakening DX as the Color Dungeon.

[@KBXband]

I used to be a dumbass kid who kinda used to write Nintendo constantly to get letters back with their advice and a cool Nintendo stamped envelope. Anyway one time I kept bugging them about the next Zelda game and the reply one gave me was three Zelda games for the Game Boy Color. Then Oracle of Seasons and Ages happened.

[@HealyHQ]

As another former kid who used to write Nintendo, I hope we get the missing third game one day so the prophecy can be fulfilled. 🤩

[@Jordan-wv2xz]

Bizarre story: I remember that a friend and I sent a letter to Nintendo when we were young asking specifically why there wasn't an Oracle of Secrets game, and we actually got a response explaining it. The issue is that, well, this happened decades ago, I don't have the letter anymore, and for all I know I could just be misremembering. But it *feels* like something that happened, though.

[@stranger21077]

These were my first Zelda games as a kid, got seasons for my birthday and had to get ages for Christmas 😂

[@WinchesterxNL]

I'm one of probably not many people, who just sees every Zelda Game as its own entity, with no connection to other games, other than their own direct sequels or tie ins. Like the Oracle games, and Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. Despite what the Encyclopedia says. I've loved these games on the GBC, and I actually replayed Seasons on the Switch (have yet to start Ages) And this video was really well done. And shows a lot of love for the games. I highly enjoyed it!

[@lordnul1708]

My personal preference is actually Ages first, since that gives some payoffs that just aren't there if you play Seasons first. For example, in the "B Scenario" of Seasons, it feels like an actual follow up to Ages because of the bit with Queen Ambi and the Pirate Captain... while the Ages B Scenario doesn't do that, but instead just adds a few minor cameos while giving Zelda a couple more scenes and having the Labrynna Maku Tree get jealous. And yeah, the DK reference in the Ages B scenario was cool, but it didn't really pay off anything from Seasons itself.

[@darkisatari]

Good points! It’s also considerably easier to fight Twinrova with the triple shot and Ganon with the Rocs Cape

[@originalsleepyjon]

Just played through both of these carts on my Analogue Pocket. Gotta say, being able to take screenshots definitely helped with the passwords between games ❤

[@CoolPorygon]

"most players agreed Dimitri is the most useful" I don't know if most players are right, the obstacles on the map literally change to be ones passable by the pet that you got. Dimitri is the most useful if you got Dimitri. Moosh is the most useful if you got Moosh. Ricky is the most useful if you're cool. Sure, Dimitri can attack enemies in water, but that's only really going to be something you encounter if you got Dimitri (or on the temporary Dimitri segment, you meet all three). Honestly Ricky is probably the best, at least in Seasons. Long range attacks and Rocs feather jumps all in one item.

[@themightyripples6582]

Honestly, I wish this were longer and that you explored more within the video - granted you more or less covered everything important... I'll try watching another video before deciding to subscribe or not! Enjoyable enough though, these were my favourite Zelda experiences as a child and I did tear up a bit when shown some of the ending sequence after defeating Ganon again after so long. Thanks for the nostalgia, keep making content like this - only consider making it longer and more thorough, don't be afraid to segue into more Easter eggs or fun random things throughout or to hang on important moments longer! :)

[@shredwerd009]

No matter what nintendo says, all the fans say, I will always argue there is NO timeline because it's just a series of games they came out with and just reused IP. Maybe things like WW take place after OOT but most likely, there isn't much of a connection between games outside of lil fun bits like the idea that he goes on the ship and ends up on Koholint. I get people are passionate but it doesn't have to have a timeline or make complete sense. It is fun however to think about, like that Link went off into the lost woods after OOT and became a Stalfos that appears in Twilight princess. Anyways, I flipping love all the GB Zelda's and am very upset we'll never get something similar and new today. 3DS games just weren't the same, and switch basically killed the idea. Botw is the new Zelda and I don't see us getting a traditional Zelda whether it's 3D or 2D anymore. I'm just glad I got to enjoy the games when relevant during release and when GBC was the handheld available at the time.

[@VampyTheVampire]

I grew up with this series and absolutely adored it. The only thing I've not managed with it is getting all the rings in a single save. I've done linked games in both directions, as well as linked hero quest in both directions. It was a wild ride but sadly my physical copies of the games can't keep it's memories anymore so I've lost all the progress it had :(

[@damiencouturee6240]

18:45 yo Ive got this playing on my phone, kinda half watching and I glanced at it during the timestamp and thought there was a bug on my screen. I jumped a little lmao

[@xzs432]

wow that was well thought out and put together, almost 45 minutes long and i watched it all!

[@leonlee8524]

Oracle of Secrets for the new Switch would be Heaven

[@middle_pickup]

When I was a kid I never had these games, but I did get the Nintendo power guide from a grocery store because the art was cool. I was into drawing back then, and loved the pictures of link. I should get around to this duo of games now.

[@darkisatari]

Great video! I love listening to people talk about these games! These were the first games that I owned myself, and I’ve played them over a dozen times (especially back before I had other games). Regarding the timeline, I feel strongly about the precedent set by Hyrule having some sort of connection to these two other countries (in contrast to the alternate dimensions usually depicted) and seeing how Hyrule functions when the Triforce is safe and whole. My position is that this version of Link and Zelda are their own, as they clearly didn’t know eachother before and LA is supposed to directly follow LttP. But the games could fit in anywhere that the Triforce is complete and Ganon has been killed (not just sealed away)

[@TheGoodWillSpreader]

Something you could have mentioned, just for fun, is that the child Link helps to raise? He's literally the key of the password system of the oracle games. You can replicate specific passwords if you replicate someone else's answers.

[@LinkEX]

Good point. Though was it really only the child? I thought the file's name had an impact as well, because it affects how the characters in the game refer to you. (Then again, if you and the other person simply chose 'Link', I guess this circumvents this issue.)

[@SgtSupaman]

@@LinkEX , also the animal companion. That was another thing carried over between games.

[@celowein]

LOVE these games, even 20+ years later. They awakened my zelda obsession as a kid

[@TransientWitch]

My favorite top-down games! I just completed another playthrough start-to-finish again!

[@ZaharaFunk-mw8tt]

I only had Ages as a kid but wow did I play that game to death. I love puzzles and it’s the game that really got me into the legend of Zelda. I never did play through Seasons but this video made me want to pick it up.

[@SteFive]

From the info you had in this video, it makes me wonder if there is a 3rd game almost finished somewhere in some archive since the games were meant to come out within 6 weeks of each other, it's interesting to think about.

[@CrowSongProductions]

I can't wait to hear your take on The Minish Cap - next to these two, it's my favourite childhood Zelda title. I never had any of the 3-D Zeldas until the 3DS hit the market, so I am fondly attached to all of the GB-titles.

[@Annalisa_valdez]

I just looked at ur account and can’t wait to wait all ur legend of Zelda videos 😊 I’m guessing you have played phantom hourglass and spirit tracks as well so IF you don’t already have a video about them (I will see) can you make one abt them? 😊 tyy

[@lordnul1708]

Zelda not knowing you is easily explainable by way of the Zelda 2 backstory with the added interpretation that it was always a tradition and the prince from said backstory simply made it an actual law.

[@arjo321]

I'm not sure what you mean exactly. If you mean the tradition that all female children of the royal family were to be named Zelda, I assume you're theorizing that the Zelda in Oracle of Ages and Seasons is an entirely different Zelda, meanwhile the one we knew from A Link to the Past is the same Zelda asleep during the events of Zelda II? Sounds plausible, but didn't the king have the triforce of courage hidden away? I don't think it would have been present during the events of A Link to the Past and definitely not during A Link Between Worlds if that were the case.

[@lordnul1708]

@@arjo321 partially yeah, I'm saying that given how OoT, Minish Cap and Four Swords take place before ALttP, naming the princess "Zelda" was already a tradition at that point before the prince from Zelda 2's backstory made it a law. Therefore, one could assume that there was at least one generation where the royal family had two Zeldas, for example ALttP Zelda could have had a cousin with the same name (think Nurse Joy) that Link meets in the Oracle games. And then, a few generations later circa the Zelda 2 manual, the events of Zelda 2's backstory happens. How this clarification helps you understand better.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

The Seasons mechanic is definitely my favorite main one in the series of what I've played so far. Simple but implemented in such a cool way

[@ShinGoji1987Official]

Fantastic video! I'm surprised the creators of the second game didn't have the cute villain Varan shapeshift herself into a Dragon or some kind of other reptile monster instead. Since Varan is the name of a Godzilla monster and is a name for a Monitor Lizard in old British English haha. Keep up the great work

[@beipiaosaurus]

Ah, so it's based on the genus for monitor lizards Varanus.

[@ShinGoji1987Official]

@@beipiaosaurus Sure is, I thought that is pretty cool about that character. Plus Varan is one of my favorite Godzilla monsters haha

[@james_daniels]

These games came out when I was like 10-11. I really enjoyed them. At first however, I remember my family wasn’t super rich like some of my friends so I had to choose between one and I chose ages. I remembered regretting it sometimes because I loved the four seasons so much and being able to control them in a game seemed so awesome to me. I eventually ended up getting seasons a few years later at some point though. Great games, great memories.

[@EllisForga-bt5ix]

OH NOCKS made me hit the like button lol, it prompted a genuine guffaw. Great vid!

[@RainbowYoshi37]

If you link Ages into Seasons instead, you'll find Queen Ambi is travelling the world in search of her lost love, whom she finds in Subrosia, as it turns out her lost lover is the undead pirate captain

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

That was mentioned in the video.

[@shinrok]

very good video i must say and what music was used around 18:30? i know it is a remix or some sort of nayru's song but even tho i searched i can't find it

[@DuelingShade]

I could’ve sworn the tree in Holodrum was called the Deku tree like in OoT, while the Tree in Labrynna was the Maku tree. Also the trading quest in both games gives you the Noble sword, the Master sword is only acquired through secrets and linking.

[@ICountFrom0]

There is a rumor of a re-release, or a remake, and I have DREAMED of all three games in one edition, together.

[@scrappy2082]

i absolutely adore the artwork made for this game. It's honestly one of my favorite artstyles in Zelda alongside the Wind Waker look & the OoT/MM artwork :D

[@ringochrist2007]

Great video, keep it up. 👍

[@Simon-xk7qv]

I think they put the oracle games after link's awakening on the new timeline, because some people were saying that link died at the end of LA when he was drifting at sea on a wooden plank, so they put these games after to say that he was still alive and found his way back to hyrule

[@madrox8]

i still remember as a kid and not having a GBA but still rockin a GB color, when i got the other zelda game (i dont remember which one) 2ish years after i had the first, it was non stop playing both and writing down passwords to get secret upgrades like 99 bombs, 99 seeds, mirror sheild, master sword, and other unlockables and when i did finally get to ganon it was just so awesome.

[@HIPHOPHER]

Man, I wish they could’ve developed that last one. Great job Mentok!

[@777Rowen]

I beat Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons and got them through my 3DS XL. I hope they get remakes and include Farore! I remember speaking with her in one of the games, but wish she got a game of her own. Fantastic video! Such great games!

[@Norwaygamer120]

15:02 THAT DIE WAS TIMED SO WELL, I WAS PLAYING DRAGON QUEST V WHILE LISTENING TO THIS IN THE BACKGROUND AND THE SOUND EFFECT PLAYED AS ONE OF MY GUYS DIED 😭

[@BananaR777]

When I was looking into oracle of secrets I learn that a lot the plan assits for it was carried over oraclee of seasons.

[@11shoopdawhoop]

Enjoying this!

[@cristiany140]

Honestly, i dont see why nintendo dont release more new 2d Zelda games as "fillers". That would be awesome since main 3D open world zeldas would take like 5 - 6 years in development. Also, you can see that 2d games can coexist with their 3d counterparts like in the mario and metroid franchises.

[@crono_8398]

A remake of this as a full trilogy would be bigger than a new zelda

[@groom_of_the_stool1]

"Twinrova: The two old lady Gerudo who raised Ganon." The combined form of the two gestated and gave birth to Ganon. They did raise him, yes. Most people only say that part, but miss the birth mother part.

[@Mauricio0973]

They are his adoptive mothers. It is never said anywhere they gave birth to him

[@KR-zg9qc]

I still own both of these titles and cherish them dearly. OOA used to drive me INSANE

[@mRahman92]

We need a video with side by side comparisons of what it means for it to be a "linked game" versus just starting a new game.

[@Yurikon3]

Future Zelda titles should really give some room for Farore to play into the story. She is basically the patron of Link and just like him, she kinda gets sidelined since she seems to usually be the busy-body in the grand affairs of her sisters so they likely don't get very detailed parts in history books.

[@sam11182]

I am very buzzed and when she said quietly "I'm just a cook" 3:52 I internally laughed and got sober. Drink more wine to continue

[@matthewsherriff-growingfoo3110]

Pretty sure i had them both when i was a kid, but that was way too many years ago to remember much about them. But i am playing through all the old zelda games so i am definitely looking forward to these ones again

[@SgtSupaman]

I played these so many times and, since I played through OoS many times before I even got OoA, I will probably always prefer to do OoS first. But, after playing it both ways, it actually felt more organic, with the references between them, for OoA to come first. Regardless, the best answer is that it should be experienced in both directions, because it really changes how they play. I never knew it was supposed to be a trilogy, though. That would have been even better. 6 different versions of a story arc would have been crazy and awesome.

[@GabrielOrtiz-qj6re]

I remember that my school had the oracle of seasons book. I liked the story so much.

[@0pPotato]

I’d love to see the older over view games get a modern graphic touch. I feel many of them would be big hits if they were made like ocarina of time, Majoras mask, twilight princess, and breath of the wild. Edit: those kinds of stories with those graphics would be awesome.

[@darkisatari]

Had to jump in before finishing your video when you compliment the Maku Tree pixel art! I remember in 2001 comparing these with Link’s Awakening and marveling how much bigger and better everything looked and felt. Sad that now they’re kind of overshadowed by LA. I’m hoping for a remake but not in the plastic style of LA’19. Something more fitting to these games’ tone.

[@Pehmokettu]

I bought Oracle of Ages and one of my relatives bought Oracle of Seasons. We promised that when we had finished the games I give my Oracle of Ages to him and he gives Oracle of Seasons to me so we can finish both games. I finished Oracle of Ages in couple of months but he got bored and never finished Oracle of Seasons. And he refused to give his unfinished game to me. So probably I just have to finish both of these games on an emulator one day.

[@WilliamScavengerFish]

Played both games both ways and have recorded the codes in a notebook.

[@robertwhite3181]

I've not watched all the way through yet or looked at the comments but this got me thinking [& I know this may sound weird and extra tedious] but is it possible to play ages first to get the passwords that can be used in seasons then play the 2 games in the intended way already having the passwords that can be used in seasons so it doesn't have to be revisited to collect everything, making it more tedious? If not I'm sorry but I was wondering

[@cabbitkisser2620]

i do remember reading about the 3 zelda games for the gameboy color in nintendo power years ago. but when they finally came out i picked up both game's at toy r us at $30 a piece. at the time i had the gameboy advance & i found out that there was a secret shop. if you got the gb color the shop's door is closed in town. but if had the gb advance the shop will be open. inside the shop you get a gb advance ring & a couple of seeds & i forgot what else was there

[@songsan807]

I remembered hearing about this game back around 2005 but never got the games. Will look for the games and experience this as an adult. Hopefully Nintendo would do a remake and release the 3rd game.

[@oniryuuko]

Every time you say something seems a little odd, or imply it's illogical, to then follow up with Link huffing fumes from that fruit... Perfectly completes the implications; "Dude, how high IS Link today?"

[@Obeliiix]

Team All different Link/Prequels to Link's Awakening.

[@Merik2013]

Watching you brute force Onox why he was using Din as a shield instead of knocking Din away with the Rod of Seasons as intended hurt my soul.

[@Fluffles_The_Bun]

oracle of ages was my first zelda game. i remeber playing the demo in the store before getting it and then getting to the end and the game telling me to be continued lol. i love these games so much :3

[@SolstaceWinters]

#JusticeForFarore I do like the idea of getting Link's Awakening-style remakes for the Oracle games, and actually getting that third game, but I highly doubt that they'd go through the trouble of porting/remaking two games that they have baselines for, _THEN_ on top of all that work *_completely making a whole new game from scratch!_* I don't see that happening, sadly. Din's my girl, but Farore was always a close second. She strikes me as the excitable bubbly one. We'll never know her personality. I've always pronounced him "On-Ox". Pretty literal, I know, but I thought it sounded harsh and threatening, plus it "made sense" with the way the Witches called him "Knox" Your pronunciation of Marin and Tarin hurt me though. We all have our own ways of tomato and tomahto, I know, but that one threw me for a moment. Especially because "Marin" is... just a name that exists. And the logical conclusion would be that her name rhymes with her dad's so his would sound like her's. "Mare-in", "Tear-in" ("tear" as in ripping). Kind of like Malon and Talon rhyming, with Talon actually being a real word for a bird claw (and a direct reference to Marin/Tarin). But again, it's all ultimately tomato/tomahto. Enough to get me to type about it, but genuinely not enough that it matters. Don't take it to (piece of) heart and feel free to point at the wall of text and laugh at him for feeling the need to type all this up over it. We all have our personal pronunciations. That all aside, fun video. I was expecting a deep dive into "the game that never was" rather than a general overview of playing both games, but this was still fun. Been a hot decade since I last played either game. When they both came out, I got Ages and my brother got Seasons. We both agreed to get one and both wanted Seasons, but we've always gentleman's agreed that for games like Pokemon, one would get A and the other B (for maximum efficiency). I remember getting stuck for Ages (heh) on that stupid lizard island. I couldn't figure out the puzzle to get all my stuff.... and when I FINALLY DID, and got all my stuff back, I got stuck in the dungeon. It took me a LONG WHILE AFTER to realize that this one switch out of reach required I shoot a seed at a diagonal - a thing I didn't know you could do. So I sat stuck on that game for a good couple years, until one day in frustration I just started mashing buttons and my boi Lurd just diagonal beaned and the game opened up to me. Meanwhile my brother never made it past like Dungeon 2 in Seasons, so even when I cleared my game... he never let me touch his... so it took me forever to get to play it. He loves Zelda, reads up on all the lore, talks your ear off about the timeline and his theories about why the main timeline is wrong.... but he's only finished like... 3 Zelda games himself. Frustrating.

[@OmegaFox09]

There is a ring that enables you to swim faster too. Helped my poor thumb 👍🏼 For the mermaid suit

[@christopherbenac3776]

Looking forward to the Mishshi cap coverage

[@FewNewReasonss]

I was so happy when both of these were added to the Switch. Wish i kept my copies of both the games from when i was young.

[@BrendonStoopid]

Peak gaming KZbinr right here. Never a bad vid.

[@BobbyHill..]

Just recently replayed these games to experience the true ending myself, only had seasons as a kid. Both games are amazing and deserve a remaster like Links awakening did

[@FerSFumero]

I had a cousin whom I played video games with. He had Seasons, I had Ages, when we finished the 1st game, we swapped cartridges.

[@Dark_Mishra]

1:43 As much as I like the Oracle games and wish they’d made the third game, I’m still kind of glad they didn’t continue doing this split game idea with every following game like they do with the Pokémon series. If/when they finally remaster these, I hope they do finally make The Oracle of Secrets AND sell them as a bundle, not charge $60-70 for each title.

[@angeleenadillion9037]

This game seems so fun- I’d love to see this remade

[@hardyjoe4278]

I completed Ages, but never even played Seasons. I had a feeling the third oracle was going to be the third for the trilogy, but instead she only took passwords.

[@stevesamuals2651]

On the one hand, it would have been neat to add a third game into this group to add even more replay and upgrade value to the way you play and experience everything. But on the other hand it would have also deleted links awakening from existence, so heinsight is 50/50

[@michaelsmith2619]

Oracle of dreams would've been a good third game to continue the world changing gimmick. With you finding a rod that transports you to a nightmare and dream worlds. An entire map of no enemies would be boring though so naybe the villian casts a spell on you so the denizens perceive you as evil in the dream world? Maybe "Oracle of dreams" is the idea that eventually turned into link's awakening.

[@GalekC]

i'm surprised he didn't mention that the director for these games would later go on to direct Skyward Sword, Breath of the Wild, and Tears of the Kingdom. & i always weirdly felt that the bgm & some of the gameplay of SS, the mechanics of BotW, & whatnot of TotK strongly reminded me of these games. & finally, last year, is when i learned of this information & i went straight headlong into major brainrot overdrive.

[@DJRainbowDash]

Rock solid video of my favorite Zelda entries by far. The one thing I'd interject is it's not accurate to say that Seed of Courage became Ages, nor is it that Seed of Wisdom did, because aspects were taken from both to make Ages what it was. I'm sure you are well aware though it didn't get directly addressed in the video, but many of Ages' dungeon puzzles and mechanics revolved around color, showing elements from Seed of Wisdom. While Seed of Power directly became Oracle of Seasons, it wasn't so 1:1 for Ages, being a combination of both Courage and Wisdom.

[@Zarathustra-rj4yz]

These games were so technically impressive. I'm still amazed at their fantastic graphics,

[@brainstormsurge154]

If Seasons was focused on platforming and Ages on puzzles then I imagine Secrets (or whatever they wanted to call it) would have been focused on combat.

[@jyke321]

These were the first zelda games I bought "with my own money", so they have had a lasting impact on me. It definitely was still my parents money, but I think the difference was that it was birthday or Christmas money that I bought eshop credit with, feeling enough like I spent my own money compared to the other ones where my parents bought me wii shop points or game discs directly. These games were a lot of fun either way

[@JustJulyo]

I love long Mentok!

[@zacharydacus6720]

The fact Nintendo made a new engine for link awakening for the switch and proceeded to not use it for the Oracle games is criminal

[@ladylunaginaofgames40]

I read the manga version of the Zelda games, and in those versions, they seem to acknowledge that the Link in the Oracle series, is completely different from the Link in "A link to the past". Although we could argue that Link's awakening is the only game link to the oracles and not to the past. Anyway, it follows the events of the game pretty faithfully with some exceptions: this link came from a long line of heros, and it just so happened that Link's ancestor was in the area during oracle of ages. That Link still has a family to cling to and was basically bored to death about being told that he's supposed to honor his bloodline. It alao solves that plot hole about Zelda not knowing Link, as in both books, Link doesn't get to meet Zelda personally, but she does make him a knight (they just never met in person).