Jaguar XF Buyers guide X250 (2008-2015) Avoid buying a broken Jaguar XF (Supercharged | TDV6 | 2.2)

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[@philnorton9723]

My wife’s 2013 XFR, which she’s owned for seven years, has had nothing go wrong with it in its 90,000 miles, just like the 80,000 mile 4.2 XF she had previously. One of the most reliable and durable cars that I have been involved with in 56 years and more than two million miles of motoring.

[@adambaudelaire3365]

I've had mine 3 years, from 100000 to 150000km. Overall it's been completely reliable. Small faults: When I got it, there was a split pipe on the intake manifold causing limp mode. I bought an aftermarket standard length of pipe for $9 and fitted it myself with no further problem. Someone had loosened and not re-tighened another part of the intake which again caused limp mode. A 30 second fix and not the fault of the car. I have the EGR fault now as most of my driving is local and it has gummed up. I've not had it fixed. The dash light is on but it doesn't affect the car at all. I also have the sunroof rattle issue. It's not a big deal. At one point the boot would not open. I had to get in there through the back seats and jemmy it. It has made locking intermittent but it opens and closes fine. Replacing that mechanism is on next weekend's agenda.

[@satsohpal3594]

I am on my 2nd XF, X250. Love them both, had a 2012 model now a 2015, and it is a beautiful car. Common problem: Yes, are failure of Actuator and rear LED light clusters. But only issue I have ever experienced is the stop start function, but other than that, I love mine. 🤗

[@stevebass3992]

2.2 does not have timing chains. Has a cam belt

[@MarkHulme-n3v]

Body control module failures due to corrosion,caused by the windscreen washer pump motor leaking and the fluid tracks down the loom finishes up in the bcm causing all manner of problems,New fuse box from Jaguar £2000 +fitting and then £1000 to reprogram the unit and they don't make it easy for home mechanic to do

[@jameswan670]

BCM failure is due to low battery currency or at the time of replacement of the battery. The actual reason is that BCM memory will be corrupted if low voltage or no currency on the car. Jaguar never recall or provide solution.

[@R04drunner1]

@@jameswan670 two different problems. Prevention is different for both. 1) The corrosion caused by water is best prevented by windscreen washer water pump replacement, plus insertion of a break in the insulation to stop any water wicking into the junction box found in the driver's footwell. 2) The low voltage / replacement battery issue is best avoided by a careful shutdown of the car before swapping the battery - means turning the car off, leaving door(s) and boot open, removing the keyfob so car does not pick it up and leaving the car for 35 minutes. At that point everything is shut down properly so battery can be replaced. Usually that works OK, but very occasionally you still get a BCM problem. If the BCM problem exhibits (e.g. the car refuses to recognise the keyfobs) then use Jaguar SDD to reprogram.

[@jameswan670]

@@R04drunner1 that is quite painful work due to shitty engineering...

[@UnknownUnrecognized]

Even if u use sdd to reprogram, front jets and rear wiper won't work on sportbrake, u need to reflash bcm module and then u can disconnect the battery all u like

[@-JonnyBoy-]

Also note that UK and US gallons are not the same so i assume these are UK MPG ratings. The British Imperial gallon is 4.54 L, while the US gallon is 3.78 L (a 20% difference) This is part of the reason all US cars look to get way worse MPG ratings, they are rated in US gallons...

[@Kellier1916]

Key codes lost after battery change seems to be common, if the car isn't reset for the battery. Corrupted BCM so reprogram or replacement required

[@garethhood9775]

The Bluetooth module seems to be prone to failure

[@skilgour44]

Some corrections: - The n/a 3.0L V6 and supercharged 3.0L V6 are completely unrelated engines - The 4.2L V8 was used in the SV8, not the XF-R

[@themilesdriven]

Good spot, my mistake, thanks for adding 👍

[@skilgour44]

@themilesdriven no worries, mate. Is there any chance of an X260 video soon?

[@themilesdriven]

Just waiting on a bit more info for the Ingenium engines to be confident in the script I’m making for it 👍

[@skilgour44]

@themilesdriven sounds great, mate. I can't wait to watch it. I'm particularly interested in the supercharged V6 examples.

[@Vcclassics_painter_]

2014 xf 2.2 exhaust fumes from engine bay through air vents into cabin,apparently a common problem,but why haven't JLR resolved this.

[@stuartdixey4355]

What about timing chain failures?.

[@marcwigg1093]

Antifreeze reservoir sensor failure

[@trevm02]

I was looking at one of these but this video has put me off

[@themilesdriven]

Don’t forget a common fault can be as little as 0.5-1% of production, so as long as you know what to look for, you can buy a good one 👍

[@DreNeilChat]

Does anyone know how to activate my high beam headlight am seeing only the low beam becoming brighter and not one next to the low beam

[@blahblahblahhahaha8897]

Would love to see a similar video done on the bmw e60 5 series!

[@themilesdriven]

You're in luck, the E60 5-series is on our release calendar for 2 weeks time 😁

[@blahblahblahhahaha8897]

@@themilesdriven Thanks for the heads up and your hard work!

[@themilesdriven]

@blahblahblahhahaha8897 the E60 5 series video is now live 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nInQh6yuitqnfqc

[@philnorton9723]

The best way to deal with the E60 BMW, is to sell it before it breaks.

[@DenzilScott]

What about the rust underneath the car. The XF is terrible and is very bad. Rear inner wheel arches and subframe along with the dif are bad.

[@SWright1978]

Nice video

[@devolution1310]

I am looking at buying a 2009 Premium luxury with the 4.2L naturally asperated motor. It has 103K Km and, according to the service history, looks like it has been well taken care of. Over the course of the life of this car, that equates to about 4400Km/year. As I am in Canada, I am going to assume that the car was never winter driven. I have a little trepidation, however, having heard stories about reliability issues with Jag cars. This vid has helped that somewhat and I have to wonder if the reliability issue thing is a holdover from earlier model Jags. The other thing is using this vehicle in the winter as it is RWD. Have to say though, I do really like the car and, if I do decide to purchase, that I will get a few more years out of it seeing as it is 14 years old.

[@themilesdriven]

I lived over in Canada for a short while and noticed a lot less Euro cars. I got talking with a cab driver in Toronto that had emigrated from Europe about why he had a Toyota, the biggest issue for Euro cars was parts, either lack of replacement parts on the shelf or high cost as fewer patent parts were available.So lots of Euro cars get driven until they really break instead of fixing a part early and not causing more issues. This is just one guys story, but I got told something similar by a cab driver when I was in the USA. Enjoy upcoming snow season 😁

[@devolution1310]

@@themilesdriven So, in your opinion, are the Ford era cars built better and of higher quality than the TATA era XF`s?

[@themilesdriven]

Such a good question I might actually make a video about the whole Jaguar range under Ford and Tata eras. I try to avoid giving an opinion in the guides but from personal experience, the 2009 and 2010 XF seem to be a sweet spot for reliability. Not to say all the other years are bad, but these two years have the last development of older tech engines that are generally a bit more robust at a cost of fuel economy and outright performance compared to later models. The XF is a Ford car for the X250 generation (built from a Ford chassis and developed under Ford ownership) despite being released under Tata. So we'll give it to Ford despite them no longer owning JLR by the time most people had them on the driveway. 👍

[@AndyK.1]

Love to see a guide On a 2019

[@themilesdriven]

It's is on the future video calendar, we've got a few more Jags to do first 😁

[@jameswan670]

BCM failure is due to low battery currency or at the time of replacement of the battery. The actual reason is that BCM memory will be corrupted if low voltage or no currency on the car. Jaguar never recall or provide solution.

[@malcolmdown9170]

Mine has done nothing but go wrong time and time again. It’s at the point I considered scraping it. It’s a 2012 and is currently awaiting another repair as it’s lost connection with the keys. I’ve promised myself this is its last chance. It’s been the most unreliable I’ve ever had. I had to buy a cheep second car for my wife as the jag can’t be trusted. It shuts down and struggle to get it out of gear and it’s a mission to release the handbrake. And the there is the steering lock. Do yourself a favour and don’t even entertain the idea of buying one of these money pits it’ll depress you, and that’s a promise. Up date £750 to repair. And I paid it. I’m a mug.

[@S-u-p-a]

I have had 4 of these. Easily the most durable car in a facelift 2012 form in 2.2 diesel. Your key issue is because of water leak your dealer would have sorted out years back. Or you pulling the battery out. The key coding is cheap if you know what you are doing.

[@pauldavies3764]

You don't need to release handbrake,it is automatically released when you start moving. I've had a 3L s sportbrake a few yrs with no problems

[@JohnMackenzieInverness]

Looking for a XF Sportbrake and found a nice example with Full Service History but was concerned that the interval was 16,000 miles which seems too far for a n engine any ideas

[@themilesdriven]

Is it the 3.0d? In which case I think the schedule is 12 month/15 or 16k miles. But the key is whichever comes first so has the car been doing 16k or more per year?

[@-A-lm5xb]

Not sure how reliable the information in this video is, as there's no such model as a "Premium Portfolio". It's a bit worrying if they can't get the model name right and as for "looking for a Luxury model or above, you have no option but to do just that - "Luxury" specification is the lowest spec. Original model spec levels, lowest first, are: 1: Luxury. 2: Premium Luxury. 3: Portfolio.

[@themilesdriven]

Trim specification was named differently across the world (a quick google search and you'll find this). As stated in the video the names vary across worldwide markets. Our viewership is worldwide so we try and cater for as many people as possible. If you find a mistake in our video we will issue a correction. Your limited trim levels are not correct for all markets

[@-A-lm5xb]

@@themilesdriven My sincere apologies if that's the case. I have watched a lot of videos and never seen them named any differently, until the fairly recent renaming of the options anyway, but if there are regional differences then fair enough. Only other trim levels I know of though (apart from when you get to the XFR, XFS etc.) was that the Luxury (base) model was called the Prestige in some markets later on.

[@themilesdriven]

@-A-lm5xb agreed that the trim convention is as you pointed out in several countries (The UK added 'Executive' with smaller wheels and restricted power to help get the Co2 down for company car buyers). No idea why Jaguar added the additional trim names for some markets, at best guess it was because some markets put value in specific/longer terms. VW seem to always do this. On our most recent VW video there were three trim names for the same specification depending on whether you were in Europe, North America or Asia and not even all European countries were harmonised 😅

[@-A-lm5xb]

@@themilesdriven Thanks, very good info.

[@RunninWithScissors]

I have an XFR and apparently the water pump is only good for 50,000 miles or so. Mines on 62,000 now and don't think it's been changed previously so i'm on the lookout for that telltale sweet smell 😆 I'd say that currently the XFR is a better purchase than the XFR-S, more bang for your buck at todays used prices, and the ride in the XFR is more forgiving, nice to waft about in. Can really destroy most other cars though when called upon.

[@themilesdriven]

Agreed that the XFR is a great buy today, value for horsepower 😁

[@shadyselim2116]

Which is better 3.0L with supercharger or without supercharger petrol?

[@R04drunner1]

Supercharger. Much better performance. It's quite a heavy car so the 3 litre n/a doesn't go anywhere as well as the S/C.