Ali's IMPOSSIBLE Victory Explained

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The Modern Martial Artist

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@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
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@GunslingingSpider0
@GunslingingSpider0 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on G Man Gerald McClellan
@nickhughes7858
@nickhughes7858 6 ай бұрын
Can we please see a break down of Foreman vs Norton I know it will be very similar to Foreman vs Frazier but it would still be a very interesting and entertaining video to watch
@verity4917
@verity4917 6 ай бұрын
@TheModernMartialArtist, you can say whatever you want Muhammad Ali WAS THE MAN OF THE 20TH CENTURY, THE MOST FAMIUS, A LIVING LEGEN! Check this up!🤔
@hitcity44
@hitcity44 4 ай бұрын
M a​@@nickhughes7858
@Jabbing_Jack
@Jabbing_Jack Жыл бұрын
"I hated every minute of training, but i said, 'Don't quit', suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion." -- Muhammad Ali
@FreeThinkAlways
@FreeThinkAlways Жыл бұрын
And a woman abuser
@mustafaatalay212
@mustafaatalay212 Жыл бұрын
He will remain a champion forever.
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 Жыл бұрын
❤well said and well OBSERVED.
@albertlim2773
@albertlim2773 Жыл бұрын
ALI ,is simply the BEST.
@Ihavenoidea12342
@Ihavenoidea12342 11 ай бұрын
Common Ali W
@Makkushimu
@Makkushimu Жыл бұрын
I think the whole Ali losing to Frazier, Frazier to Foreman, and Foreman to Ali is a perfect example of "styles make fights".
@bjuganda7758
@bjuganda7758 Жыл бұрын
Rock Paper & Scissors
@geraldfriend256
@geraldfriend256 Жыл бұрын
No better example
@dudetrustme8320
@dudetrustme8320 Жыл бұрын
Fraziers style was terrible against the excessive power of Foreman.
@marksheppard6498
@marksheppard6498 Жыл бұрын
@@dudetrustme8320 Same results if Tyson fought George
@OfficiallyWrexx
@OfficiallyWrexx Жыл бұрын
Except that Ali’s first fight with Joe was a once in a lifetime fluke with Ali underestimating Joe (this happens a lot when you legitimately feel like NOBODY can whoop you) and Joe literally fought his absolute BEST fight that night. My theory anyway with the rest of the trilogy as evidence(plus Ali and a lot others thought he won but that knockdown had CRAZY effect worldwide lol). Let’s also not forget Ali was forced to throw 3yrs of his fighting prime away due to bullshit prior to their fight.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
Fun fact George Foreman in those 8 rounds against Ali landed more punches on Ali than Wilder did in all 3 Fury fights combined (30 rounds). Foreman 194 punches landed, Wilder 177. He landed more punches than Usyk did in either AJ fights as well. By the way this is not saying Ali is bad, this shows how amazing Ali was to not go down once. It also shows how much more they threw and the accuracy of these greats, Foreman was not even known for his stamina or punch rate at all back then.
@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
A lot of that has to do with Foreman knowing how to jab and body punch really well. But Ali's endurance was insane, I can't think of many heavyweights that could take those body shots. And enough head shots landed to give Foreman a victory over pretty much any other heavyweight at the time. So the crazy thing is that Foreman's plan worked, he executed it well, and it would have gotten him a victory over pretty much anyone else. At the same time, Ali had way less room for error than he usually did. A few more head shots in the early rounds and I think he would have been down.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
​@@TheModernMartialArtist yep, that's a perfect analysis as always and as you say many people think of Foreman as just a really hard puncher, but he was much more than that.
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 Жыл бұрын
Ali could have done his stick and move routine and George would have rarely landed
@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
He says in his book he couldn't. George did too good a job cutting him off. According to Ali, he was literally unable to dance. I think most would have given up at that point if their entire style had been rendered useless over a few rounds!
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
​​@@youtoo2233 if he could why didn't he, that sounds like a much more sensible idea than getting punched 194 times by one of, if not the hardest punchers of all time. If it was easier for Ali to do a James Braddock style win, he would have espcially as Foreman had much worse stamina than Max Bear, making stick and move even more attractive proposition. But Ali didn't, because he couldn't against Foreman especially at this point in his career.
@klaudioabazi4478
@klaudioabazi4478 Жыл бұрын
This is my Favorite Boxing Fight of All Time. The Hype, the buildup, the Fighters, the Showmanship, the stage, David and Goliath, and the unexpected and iconic outcome. It has all the hallmarks of the perfect legendary story. Truly a unique event that will never be repeated. R. I. P. Ali, Go On strong Big George.
@damonshekhem8906
@damonshekhem8906 Жыл бұрын
Do you know a young guy told me that Foreman was nearly the menace Tyson was in like are you ignorant they literally thought Foreman was going to kill Ali
@klaudioabazi4478
@klaudioabazi4478 Жыл бұрын
@@damonshekhem8906 I Love Tyson but he was a child in comparison to Foreman in his prime in the intimidating game.
@damonshekhem8906
@damonshekhem8906 Жыл бұрын
@@klaudioabazi4478 I’m in total agreement
@FatherofMan25
@FatherofMan25 Жыл бұрын
Ali’s comeback arc is the greatest story in sports history. It peaked with his victory over Foreman. If his career had ended after that fight, it would’ve been truly storybook.
@klaudioabazi4478
@klaudioabazi4478 Жыл бұрын
@@FatherofMan25 i fully agree bro. But Ali's pride got the better of him. Add to that an army of sycophants in his entourage convincing him that he was invincible, damaged his body more than it should have. Tragic, but still the Legend never dies.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
19:12 one other thing to mention is how unbelievably accurate Ali is here, every single punch lands exactly where he wants even though foreman is stumbling forward and to the groud, Ali's reaction time is so great he does not throw that last punch as he knows Foreman is going to the ground.
@elijahjamescomia2601
@elijahjamescomia2601 Жыл бұрын
I don't think every punch he threw here hit foreman but when it did miss foreman he just used the missed punch to set up another, it was a thing of graceful brutality
@vistarecords4930
@vistarecords4930 Жыл бұрын
Ali really controlled this fight. His speed was too much for Foreman, and if it had gone to the scorecards Ali would have won as most of Foreman's punches missed or did little damage. By the third round Foreman was just swinging wildly, where Ali was methodically targeting (and hitting) Foreman.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
@@elijahjamescomia2601 which punch missed of those 4? The clip shows every single one and foremans head being jolted by everyone.
@elijahjamescomia2601
@elijahjamescomia2601 Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-cw3rz there was a hook (which wasn't shown in the clip) that he tried hitting with which didn't hit
@elijahjamescomia2601
@elijahjamescomia2601 Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-cw3rz foreman blocked the left hook and i'm not sure if the right hook was actually intended to move foreman's guard
@ggggggrrrrrhhhh2065
@ggggggrrrrrhhhh2065 Жыл бұрын
"Very even fight." "Ali, a sneaky right hand." "Another sneaky right hand." "This time he works shoulder-to-shoulder with Foreman... AND A COMBINATION! FOREMAN! IS DOWN!" *Bob Sheridan and the audience explodes*
@sholaebofin6090
@sholaebofin6090 Жыл бұрын
I love his commentary it's so epic
@Treebot1
@Treebot1 Жыл бұрын
And he was the only one that saw what Ali was doing before the end of the fight
@stavros693000
@stavros693000 Жыл бұрын
Just found out that Sheridan passed away on 27th of september 2023, he was 79 yrs. R.I.P
@chuckemeade
@chuckemeade Жыл бұрын
@@Treebot1 No Joe Frazier stated "he's using that old pro skilllmk on George and George's falling for it" I don't George is gonna make it".
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 Жыл бұрын
❤HAHAHA agreed
@jamesmarshall6619
@jamesmarshall6619 Жыл бұрын
My favorite comment on this fight came from George Foreman. Foreman said "Ali said 'Is that all you got George?' And I thought "Yup.'"
@muhammadamjagraza359
@muhammadamjagraza359 Жыл бұрын
Then GF wept bitterly😅
@lO_OI
@lO_OI Жыл бұрын
"When he tried pawing to break his guard, he found out the ex-champion had no guard" is such a raw line
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 10 ай бұрын
Yes : beautiful improvisation under the circumstances, showing yet again, HOW Ali NEVER stopped thinking as fighter .
@kencusick6311
@kencusick6311 Жыл бұрын
Ali had one of the greatest chins in heavyweight history and he was impossible to hit in combination. To see Foreman hit him with combinations is incredible. But he took it. Archie Moore said years afterward that he saw Ali was an escape artist of the highest quality.
@Ihavenoidea12342
@Ihavenoidea12342 11 ай бұрын
Definitely one of his most underrated qualities, took punches from shavers
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 10 ай бұрын
❤well said and well REASONED.
@healthyone100
@healthyone100 18 күн бұрын
i always said Ali best weapon that he could take a punch!
@tonyfortune346
@tonyfortune346 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching boxing for a long time and I've seen thousands of different boxers but nobody made boxing look as beautiful and graceful as Ali. If i could only watch one person's fights for the rest of my life theres no question it would his.
@sebastiaankrul2403
@sebastiaankrul2403 Жыл бұрын
The story leading up to this fight has to be the greatest in boxing
@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Both men are fascinating characters with crazy stories. Both heroes in their own ways!
@kcash6359
@kcash6359 Жыл бұрын
@@TheModernMartialArtist The fight was originally scheduled for September 24th, but Foreman got cut in training. That extra month being in Africa helped Ali. He had time to win the country over.
@ghostdance56
@ghostdance56 6 ай бұрын
You mean the accusations that someone was tampering with Foreman's food? LOL
@wesleyausborn4256
@wesleyausborn4256 2 ай бұрын
​@@ghostdance56and had ropes that would STRETCH more than regulation so the Rope-a-dope was a sucker move amplified.
@ghostdance56
@ghostdance56 2 ай бұрын
@@wesleyausborn4256 - Rope a dope was nothing more than Ali hanging on for dear life. What else was Ali going to do before Foreman tired.
@kristianjosh8293
@kristianjosh8293 Жыл бұрын
To the world, it was a boxing match. But these two warriors were employing wrestling/judo and Muay Thai techniques. It was truly a Mixed Martial Arts fight at the heart of it. What an era.
@damonshekhem8906
@damonshekhem8906 Жыл бұрын
Great point
@sholaebofin6090
@sholaebofin6090 Жыл бұрын
Very true ali loved wrestling
@santosomarzerpaaguilar2072
@santosomarzerpaaguilar2072 11 ай бұрын
Ali fue muy preciso, poderoso y una velocidad indescriptible.
@bidensbrain69
@bidensbrain69 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@fifthbusiness1678
@fifthbusiness1678 8 ай бұрын
Huh? No, they were simply boxing.
@damienhouse7706
@damienhouse7706 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! This is the only video I ever wanted you to remaster, and you did it! Good job man.
@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
I really needed to because it deserved it. It was crazy going through both of their books because they both give round by round accounts and often brought up the same moments. But they saw things completely differently, until the end of course.
@CarlDaCool168
@CarlDaCool168 Жыл бұрын
@@TheModernMartialArtistwas actually hoping you’d expand on your old video so thanks
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 10 ай бұрын
❤agreed 100% well said.
@rafaelperezsosa9950
@rafaelperezsosa9950 9 ай бұрын
@@TheModernMartialArtist what books?
@damienhouse7706
@damienhouse7706 9 ай бұрын
@@jayedwards4787 ...He did. He discusses it in the same video he discusses Foreman vs Moorer. You need to look harder.
@sharpvidtube
@sharpvidtube Жыл бұрын
Ali was the greatest, as Tyson said, he would do whatever it took to win. He had all the skills, was incredibly fast and had an amazing boxing brain, but it was his willpower that that took him to another level. Any other boxer would buckle in this fight, with the heavy punches Foreman threw, but Ali was willing to go the 15 rounds.
@stavros693000
@stavros693000 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Ali was prepared to die in that ring! He paid a heavy price to acheive greatness in the second half of his career....Amazing comeback story. It was like David & Goliath!
@stavros693000
@stavros693000 Жыл бұрын
@@jayedwards4787 Getting hit to the body does more damage...Ali pissed blood for weeks after the Rumble in the jungle! BTW Ali was rocked a few times by foremans power shots that got through Alis guard and landed flush on his chin!....But Ali had next level resilience, recovery & stamina!
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 11 ай бұрын
Foreman never went 15 rounds but once
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 10 ай бұрын
❤exactly. Well said and well REASONED.
@johnharris8191
@johnharris8191 7 ай бұрын
The Greatest retired undefeated, Clay was defeated by five different opponents.
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 Жыл бұрын
Truth is very few knew the strength of Ali, much stronger than people realized which is why you see him manhandling George quite a bit
@misterwachulochulo5262
@misterwachulochulo5262 Жыл бұрын
he wasn't that strong he was just incredibly accurate and good at breaking rhythm, so those laser-pointed punches would land when his opponents least expected it, which made them always devastating if ali had been a natural powerhouse like foreman then he'd have at the very least one body in his record
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 Жыл бұрын
@@misterwachulochulo5262 several Fighters that are on record talking about ali said he was very strong in the clinches and they couldn't break free, look how he would push Foreman head down and lean on his back, tied him up
@misterwachulochulo5262
@misterwachulochulo5262 Жыл бұрын
@@youtoo2233 I didnt know that, damn, having strength and cat-like accuracy is such a deadly combo, no wonder he got as far as he did
@active.7universal
@active.7universal Жыл бұрын
Norton also stated that hitting Ali was like hitting cement
@andu1854
@andu1854 Жыл бұрын
Ali also was just as tall as George, so he didn’t have the size advantage
@jk_46
@jk_46 Жыл бұрын
Ali's speed and accuracy was just on another level! It was on display again for all to see in this fight and even though he spoke to Foreman, took his best shots and talked more, the punches still did proper damage. Foreman looked tired by round 4, his face was starting to swell while Ali was landing more and more clean shots while forman was hitting body or air. He took Foreman to deep waters and drowned him🙈. I know Ali is the self proclaimed greatest but when he was focused on proving a point and did the necessary training, he was just about invincible. He stopped the monster who everyone thought would kill him. It has to count for something! One also has to considering that he wanted to fight anyone and everyone, sometimes multiple times if needed. Legend!
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын
I feel privileged to have witnessed the great Muhammad Ali in his prime. No more to be said.
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 Жыл бұрын
❤agreed 100%
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 11 ай бұрын
Watch the last minute and a half of round five and you'll see Ali's greatness
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 11 ай бұрын
George Foreman was 40-0 with 37ko nobody gave Ali a snowballs chance in gell, but Ali predicted what all he could and couldn't do, he was confident. He said George was slow, plodded around the ring like a mummy, telegraphed his punches, Ali dissected George like a surgeon.
@sidharthk2793
@sidharthk2793 9 ай бұрын
​@@aarondigby5054 Foreman was too overconfident and barely trained due to injury. He even prayed to not get Ali killed. Imagine how much could Foreman train with that attitude, He simply had no plan. He lost because he was exhausted fastly. He had Ali at the 7th round I guess but couldn't finish since he himself was tired.
@HorangiTiger
@HorangiTiger Жыл бұрын
"He hurled thunderous haymakers with all the fury of a god of war laying waste to a defiant nation." Your narration is always so fun to listen to lol. Great video! I've always wanted to see you cover this fight more in-depth.
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 Жыл бұрын
❤well said and well OBSERVED
@Uncommon_Senze
@Uncommon_Senze 8 ай бұрын
A little florid for my tastes, but it is entertaining to listen to. 😀
@KingSadim
@KingSadim Жыл бұрын
I'll never know how Ali survived those body shots, you could see the power behind them
@drinfernodds
@drinfernodds Жыл бұрын
@@formosan2823 I remember Ruslan Provodnikov had a video showing that his piss turned black from all the body shots Tim Bradley landed on him. They didn't even look bothersome and Tim's not a hard puncher, but it did a ton of internal damage. Ali probably pissed colors that were only perceptible to mantis shrimp.
@cygnusprime6728
@cygnusprime6728 Жыл бұрын
​@@drinfernoddsthat disgusting but hilarious, I learned about mantis shrimps crazy eyesight.
@andu1854
@andu1854 Жыл бұрын
Ali had a great chin, and could Take a punch and he let George punch himself out
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын
@@andu1854 He was talking about body shots not punches to the chin.
@mr.doctorcaptain1124
@mr.doctorcaptain1124 Жыл бұрын
I mean, he didn’t survive those shots… Ali died early of Parkinson’s and was a shell of his former self by the time he hit the age of 45. And every medical doctor on the face of the planet believes, but cannot prove, that he got that from boxing… But he died a king.
@borood1188
@borood1188 3 ай бұрын
Ali trained his mind to be invulnerable to Foreman’s blows. He convinced himself that Foreman could do nothing to hurt him. The mind is very powerful. It worked.
@incognitobrown7782
@incognitobrown7782 4 ай бұрын
This is THE MOST legendary fight of all time. For Ali to come back and beat that version of Foreman (he was more fearsome than peak Mike Tyson), and the way he did it, is stuff of fairytales - Unbelievable! Both absolutely great champions . And then for Foreman to come back older than ever and become champion again is probably even more unbelievable!! Both great champions - One & two in my books.
@truthpopup
@truthpopup 5 ай бұрын
That fight was not so one-sided as many seem to think. Throughout the bout, Ali landed dozens of punches to Foreman's head, which had a cumulative effect. The knockout in the 8th round was the coup de grâce.
@MattanzaMafiaFedora
@MattanzaMafiaFedora Жыл бұрын
Glad we got a more in-depth breakdown of this fight, David! Next, could we please get Sugar Ray Leonard vs Floyd Mayweather Sr?
@Khamae77
@Khamae77 Жыл бұрын
Funny fact. With longer arm reach, Ali was 6'3" 216 lb and Foreman was 6'3" 220 lb. But Ali was considered as the dancing butterfly and Foreman as "Big" 😉
@sethteeter5225
@sethteeter5225 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the reason foreman looks bigger is because of how much bulk muscle mass he had compared to alis lean mucsle mass
@thespy7795
@thespy7795 Жыл бұрын
Foreman is actually 6'4" Ali was 6'2.5"
@kcash6359
@kcash6359 Жыл бұрын
@@thespy7795 You are correct, although Ali may have been 6'2 and 3/4. I have stood next to both fighters, although not at the same time. Foreman's hands are huge.
@ballhawk387
@ballhawk387 Жыл бұрын
Don't know their true dimensions, but it is obvious there was not much of a size difference. Same with Ali vs. Liston. Ali was a big heavyweight for his time.
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 11 ай бұрын
​@@sethteeter5225Ali had a more sullen physique he didn't look all muscle bound, George looked all Hulkish and slow. This is what the British announcer said about Ali "the Dancing Master with the Lightening Quick Hands" what people need to do is listen to the play by play announcers as their calling the fight instead of hooping and hollering in the background.
@GaryJazon
@GaryJazon 8 ай бұрын
David, You give the best analysis of anyone Ive seen on boxing (thank you for your great content.) I am 58 and remember this fight very well. Everyone including myself at the time surely thought Ali would lose. My dad was the only one who thought Ali could do it
@gulizarkarasu308
@gulizarkarasu308 8 ай бұрын
Your dad know a lot about boxing. I hope he is still alive.
@Wavecurve
@Wavecurve 5 ай бұрын
Ali's glamorous charm concealed his toughness. The man took clean punches from the hardest hitters.
@vistarecords4930
@vistarecords4930 Жыл бұрын
Ali fought a really smart fight against Foreman. He let Foreman tire himself out in every round, and Ali managed to steal 5 of the 7 rounds (as I scored it) in the last 30-45 seconds of those rounds. He'd come to life late and land more good punches in the last 30 seconds of the round than Foreman had for the first two and a half minutes. Ali's speed was too much for Foreman. Most of Foreman's punches either missed or did little damage. Just like Frazier and Norton gave Ali fits in their stylistic matchups, Ali was all wrong for Foreman. It was a great fight, but Ali owned it.
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 10 ай бұрын
❤Precisely.
@Ken_Frazer-619
@Ken_Frazer-619 8 ай бұрын
​@@petergreen5337Ali would've beat Foreman in a rematch for sure by Knockout in 1975 or by a Unanimous Decision in 1976
@gregd806
@gregd806 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you took a revisit of this fight, knew there was more story to tell from this one... 10/10 Work here, Mate!
@johnrenehan7406
@johnrenehan7406 10 ай бұрын
This is the best in depth analysis of this iconic fight ever ; unlike several others - it highlights how many good hits Forman actually landed onto Ali ; Watching the complete fight a good few times , it was difficult to see many of Gorges punches land at all ! A brillant critque
@robertmorris9998
@robertmorris9998 Жыл бұрын
Great job remastering this video, and the commentary pretty good too!! I remember this fight well. I was (and am) an Ali fan, but I could not ignore the power of foreman. Every punch, if connecting clean, could do severe damage. He was truly a beast in the ring, completely unafraid and fighting with gladiator abandon. No one was more shocked than I when Ali got hit, again and again, yet somehow remained on his feet. It is a testament to his will and resolve, and a great chin as well. After he weathered the 3rd and 4th round, I knew how it was going to go, and began to feel bad for George. He had been outfought, and outsmarted, and was going to pay the ultimate price for it. Surely one of boxing’s greatest contests, by two of its icons…
@Halibut86
@Halibut86 Жыл бұрын
George looks absolutely exhausted just a few rounds in after the rope a dope! Whether that's conditioning, heat, or excessive force expelled trying to KO is hard to say; probably all factors. Interesting to learn that it was a tactic Ali used in sparring to test his opponents. You definitely needs tons of experience to use a strategy this risky against one of the most powerful men of all time!
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 Жыл бұрын
❤exactly well OBSERVED
@TheBillaro
@TheBillaro Жыл бұрын
he was taking head shots throughout the fight. imho this hurt him cumulatively.
@danielbrown7115
@danielbrown7115 Жыл бұрын
He was drugged. Ali had to win because if he lost there would have been a riot and massacre of epic proportions. This was in a murderous African country that hated George and loved Ali. Go see the movie When we were Kings and George Foreman autobiography By George. The ropes were not supposed to be as loose as they were by regulation.
@asmrnaturecat984
@asmrnaturecat984 9 ай бұрын
ali had said even before the fight that foreman never had many rounds in the ring, same thing he said before liston compare to ali, he always pull the match to judges decision or tell the ref to stop when his opp couldnt go on and ali fought more frequent, he has more stamina, skill, and experiences
@andu1854
@andu1854 8 ай бұрын
He punched himself out
@blueeyebandit
@blueeyebandit Жыл бұрын
" Ernie Shavers the hardest hitter in boxing history " According to Ali , Ron Lyle , Larry Holmes... And basically anyone who faced the Acorn AKA Black Destroyer , never the less Big George is right up there .
@bjuganda7758
@bjuganda7758 Жыл бұрын
Even Big George said that he glad he didn't fought Earnie Shavers which shows Big George respecting the power of Earnie Shavers
@blueeyebandit
@blueeyebandit Жыл бұрын
Both Joe Frazier and Big George where ducking a Shavers fight , opting to set up another opponent . Shavers had a feared reputation every boxer testifies to his power . Only Ken Norton was humble when asked the comparison of punch power who hit harder he said they hit about the same . @@bjuganda7758
@TheBankofJosh
@TheBankofJosh Жыл бұрын
Shavers said he asked both Frazier and Foreman to fight and they both denied him
@active.7universal
@active.7universal Жыл бұрын
​@@TheBankofJoshtrue//bazooka Joe said (no earnie I'm not fighting you man you hit to damn hard )
@Ken_Frazer-619
@Ken_Frazer-619 8 ай бұрын
​​@@bjuganda7758if Only George Foreman didn't take a year out he would've fought Shavers, Quarry or Bonavena as Ali wanted Foreman to win a tune up while he was fighting Lyle and Bugner so they can fight around the time of the Thrilla in Manila meaning Frazier's shot would've been pushed back to 1976 and Norton's to 1977 An Ali-Foreman rematch in 1975 would've been a war with Ali winning again by knockout
@strikeback1080
@strikeback1080 4 ай бұрын
Your story telling skills are second to none. The fact that you can make a person excited with anticipation about what you're going to say when describing a fight they've seen countless times is amazing.
@BuddhaLove77
@BuddhaLove77 4 ай бұрын
I agree 100%!!!
@ender8170
@ender8170 Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely LOVE some videos on Foreman's techniques and how he fought. Everyone talks about second career foreman, but never first career when it comes to how he fights. I don't really care for cross guard foreman that much, but long guard foreman was INCREDIBLE! please talk about it!
@wesleyhite8203
@wesleyhite8203 5 ай бұрын
The first time Liston fought Clay no one thought Clay had a chance. Liston was the man that couldn't be beat. Had those big Tree Trunk Leggs. Clay was the Skinny Kid from Louisville. The reason Clay won, it was the old story of speed and skill, up against Sheer Brute Strength. When Ali fought Forman, that was Age and experience against Youth and Strength. Ali really was the Greatest. Ali wrote a script, Forman did exactly what Ali wanted him to do.
@askalucas411
@askalucas411 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all you do. Incredible videos. I just finished watching the Ali vs Forman video you just uploaded and all I can say is thank you for such incredible work. ❤ every video you have uploaded has been 100/10 God bless you and your family brother
@TheModernMartialArtist
@TheModernMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate that! I went hard on this one, weeks of research. The fight deserves it, contender for greatest fight in history. I'll keep making these videos as long as people care to watch them :)
@kcash6359
@kcash6359 Жыл бұрын
@@TheModernMartialArtist Yes, thank you. This has always been my favorite fight. Saw it on Closed Circuit live, in Worcester , MA that night.
@achillesiq491
@achillesiq491 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite Ali fights! Never get tired of watching it and hearing everyone that night thinking Foreman would win by knock out...then only til about the 5th round did the commentators start to doubt...ha!
@ghostdance56
@ghostdance56 Жыл бұрын
Not just the commentators, anyone with any sense believed Ali had no chance. Ali was luckiest man alive that night.
@turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun2088
@turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun2088 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostdance56 no luck. Technic, speed!
@ghostdance56
@ghostdance56 Жыл бұрын
@@turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun2088 - He layed helpless on the ropes most of the night. Who you think you're kidding?
@haroldsmyth6685
@haroldsmyth6685 6 ай бұрын
​@ghostdance56 joe frazier was wrong jim brown was wrong. You in good company
@Ken_Frazer-619
@Ken_Frazer-619 5 ай бұрын
​@@ghostdance56 lol helpless yet he was out boxing Foreman and winning on points and hurting him if that's helpless than a domestic cat is a severely nerfed lion
@zoyazam8776
@zoyazam8776 Жыл бұрын
"Ali finishes the job with a cross and watches the man the world told him cannot be beat, fall to the floor" -David Christian My favorite line from the other video about Rumble In The Jungle
@Treebot1
@Treebot1 Жыл бұрын
It bugs me when people say George Foreman lost because he was tired. Ali was sniping him with stinging laser precise shots thruout the fight. Something like 15 straight right hand leads in the first alone.
@duranfreeman839
@duranfreeman839 Жыл бұрын
Ali was a damaged fighter after this one!!
@bobbyhulll8737
@bobbyhulll8737 Жыл бұрын
@@duranfreeman839this fight was inconsequential to Ali’s Health .
@bryanmulcare9083
@bryanmulcare9083 Жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ali is one of those fighters where he can trash talk against his opponent and show why he’s better. He’s one of those guys where he can pull off the impossible.
@jasintosamora5599
@jasintosamora5599 9 ай бұрын
I remember this as a kid. Two great warriors. Ali is the greatest boxer fighter of all time. Imo no one comes close. May he rest in peace.
@lesson9280
@lesson9280 Жыл бұрын
"the unexpected rhythm caught Ali by surprise." is one of the funniest things in fighting i have ever heard and seen.
@saddlerjfk
@saddlerjfk Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a breakdown on Ali's defensive style when doing the Rope-a-dope. Did Foreman never land a single liver shot or did Ali just make sure ever single body punch landed in a place that didn't hurt as much?
@Treebot1
@Treebot1 Жыл бұрын
he deflected a lot, but he definitely took a lot of brutal shots. he undoubtedly trained his body to withstand punishment so he could protect his head. larry holmes would later remark on Ali pissing blood for days after fights. he paid a huge price for those victories
@kcash6359
@kcash6359 Жыл бұрын
@@Treebot1 Luis Sarria was Ali's masseur. He kept Ali's body in shape and worked with him through most of Ali's title fights. Ferdie Pacheco said Sarria was a "fitness guru", and Angelo Dundee stated Sarria added years to Ali's career.
@Eb-or
@Eb-or Жыл бұрын
Is Sarria responsible for killing Ali's brain then?@@kcash6359
@Ihavenoidea12342
@Ihavenoidea12342 11 ай бұрын
He kinda did that
@SheldonPlankton-gp8il
@SheldonPlankton-gp8il 10 ай бұрын
Check 8:48
@cyberjayhd7051
@cyberjayhd7051 Жыл бұрын
I can tell this video is gonna be great. The craziest heavyweight fight I've seen
@cmbrewer84
@cmbrewer84 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how a younger Ali knocked out Archie Moore one of Foreman’s trainers and defeated Foreman with Moore in the corner watching
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 10 ай бұрын
❤Moore had also trained Muhammad Ali before he teamed up with Angelo Dundee. Archie Moore and Sandy Sadler had a CLEAR PLAN of how to DESTROY the " butterfly " Archie Moore and Sandy Sadler had KNOCKED OUT 200 fighters between them.
@asmrnaturecat984
@asmrnaturecat984 9 ай бұрын
foreman also adores his mentor and sparring partner sonny liston imagine restoring liston's honor by ko'ing ali..he had all the motivation and reason to beat ali
@Ken_Frazer-619
@Ken_Frazer-619 8 ай бұрын
​@@asmrnaturecat984Fun fact in 1972 Ali wanted to fight Foreman in an eliminator to face Frazier as he couldn't stand the fact that he would only get his shot at Frazier after Foreman did and George didn't beat the fighters he beat to get the shot but Foreman's camp refused
@granadosvm
@granadosvm Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this fight. Ali was my idol and he looked like he was losing and (to my childhood untrained eye) not even trying. Little I knew Ali was experiencing early stages of Parkinson's, not being able to evade punches with the agility of early years, he invented the "rope a dope" to use the ropes like in 8:21 where if he had been standing and had to resist the impact, he could have been knocked out, but he just left his body go as back as possible in the slightly lose ropes, letting the ropes absorb part of the impact. Something similar in 8:39 and 11:48 Ali was making Foreman feel tired and instead of the attempts of devastating power Foreman was trying, Ali was slowly mining him down. By the time Ali knocked Foreman down, Foreman was too tired and lacked the stamina to stand up on time. Foreman had the strength to stand up and fight again, but it took him too long. In the words of Ali himself, every champion wrote his page in the book of boxing, but Ali wrote complete chapters.
@Defender_928
@Defender_928 7 ай бұрын
@victorsanchez-castro8944
@victorsanchez-castro8944 Жыл бұрын
These historic fight breakdowns are my favorite type of video that you put out. Thanks for the great content
@petegilgan8909
@petegilgan8909 8 ай бұрын
A common misconception is that 'Big' George Foreman was much larger than Ali. He wasn't - in fact they were almost exactly the same size - with Foreman possibly a little taller - though Ali had a slightly longer reach. Ali won here because of the following: He was the better boxer: He was not in the least intimidated by Foreman. He was faster: He was more experienced: He had the improvisation skills to adapt DURING the fight (which Frazier and Norton did not possess). Oh, and he was as tough as hell.
@Jokoman019
@Jokoman019 14 күн бұрын
Foreman and ali had almost identical body measurements but people imagine that he was just towering over Ali. It’s a testament to how intimidating and ferocious he was during that time
@limmeh7881
@limmeh7881 7 ай бұрын
Ali’s approach reminds me of some Musashi quotes and duels. Musashi would show up late to duels as he knew it’d frustrate his opponents - Ali took every chance he got to frustrate Foreman via trash talk. Musashi also advised breaking up one’s rhythm and the rhythm of the opponent - another thing Ali did here. Ali also used his own stuff, like taking all those punishing shots on the ropes. Something he trained for, but no doubts that it was another F U to Foreman who was obviously a hard puncher. It’s also surprising to see the inspiration from other martial arts…Foreman’s pawing from Judo, and those Karate style blocks from Ali. I know from my experience that some Karate blocks aren’t necessarily blocks per se: they are more like redirecting incoming blows. I could keep gushing…but this was a pretty neat analysis video. Makes me want to see more style/fight analyses.
@cnh2132
@cnh2132 Жыл бұрын
"Boy, you've picked the wrong moment of the fight to get tired!"
@dfk09
@dfk09 Жыл бұрын
Great video but slight correction: Ali was 32 in 1974 when he faced Foreman. He was born in January 1942.
@fearsomename4517
@fearsomename4517 Жыл бұрын
Literally the best boxing match since forever. "I said I was the greatest before I even knew I was" - Muhammad Ali
@timephire
@timephire Жыл бұрын
Great timing on dropping this one! Rumble young man rumble!
@twobyfour
@twobyfour Жыл бұрын
"You`re not hitting George, You`re not breaking popcorn George"! How Ali pulled this off is incredible.
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 11 ай бұрын
The first time both fighters were guaranteed $10million purses." The Rumble in the Jungle "
@andu1854
@andu1854 8 ай бұрын
Ali had a great chin, never was knocked out
@robintranter6462
@robintranter6462 6 ай бұрын
The truth is Ali could no longer dance for 15 rounds and so it became necessary to adopt a new style. Rope a dope wasn't new, Ali had already used it in the first Frazier. From then on Ali would take a lot more punishment. The sad part of this story is that the American authorities stole Ali's best years, depriving the world of seeing the greatest boxer of his generation at his best. It was mean and it was deliberate. They didn't like Ali because he would not join the military and because he had converted to Islam. Ali was an artist in the ring and I doubt there will ever be another one like him.
@xctkillaprodigyx2586
@xctkillaprodigyx2586 Жыл бұрын
This is the best channel on KZbin and its not even close. Thank you so much for your amazing analysis and content. Peace and love my brother!
@jgreenbelt
@jgreenbelt Жыл бұрын
I am so happy you remade this video!
@keep_walking_on_grass
@keep_walking_on_grass 7 ай бұрын
I was 10 years old and watched the fight live at night on a small black-and-white TV. The quality wasn't nearly as clear as it is here on YT or anywhere else. All I saw was Ali looking really bad, with his back against the ropes, and I was shocked. Then it suddenly happened, and Foreman went to the canvas. I watched that fight 100 times ever since then and this is the fight, I adore Ali for the most.
@Defender_928
@Defender_928 7 ай бұрын
Thx for sharing your beautiful memories with this fight ❤
@zainwasem
@zainwasem 10 ай бұрын
This fight is full of patience, confidence of Muhammad Ali. he is the Greatest ❤️ Ali Punches speed accuracy his comments everything is top class.
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 10 ай бұрын
❤agreed 100%. Well said and well OBSERVED.
@am2382
@am2382 Жыл бұрын
They robbed Ali's potential prime between 67 - 69.
@vistarecords4930
@vistarecords4930 Жыл бұрын
Ali would have been frighteningly good - great - during that period. If you look at his last few fights before the ban he was really becoming an absolute monster. So fast, but with enough power to put his opponents down on the canvas. The fact that he came back after so much time off and won the title back is amazing. The Ali that took the title from Foreman was great, but nowhere near as great as he would have been in 1968 and 1969. And if he didn't have that time off he would have been sharper in the early and mid 70's - think about that!
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 10 ай бұрын
IKR, Ali should've sued for potential income lost
@naunau311
@naunau311 9 ай бұрын
@@aarondigby5054 Sued who lmao. He's the one who broke the law.
@-dave3577
@-dave3577 8 ай бұрын
@@vistarecords4930 He would also have likely retired a lot earlier and probably with his faculties still intact.
@mercistephens7325
@mercistephens7325 8 ай бұрын
@@naunau311 An unjust "law" deserves to be broken
@anemicroyalty8764
@anemicroyalty8764 Жыл бұрын
Please do Tyson-Douglas! Feels like the only big fight you haven’t done.
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 11 ай бұрын
Tyson/Douglas was a bigger upset than Ali/Foreman
@JAMESGANG-f5u
@JAMESGANG-f5u Жыл бұрын
This channel is SO GOOD. The best of its kind. I’ve been subbed for over 4 years now. Fascinating breakdowns for the well educated combat sports fan as well as being simplified enough for the new viewer.
@jojolisticallyspeaking4266
@jojolisticallyspeaking4266 Жыл бұрын
It's been a while Bro. I miss your spot on narration as your video plays on. You have a great voice too. This Ali/Foreman fight is a masterpiece! Keep it up buddy.
@JAMESGANG-f5u
@JAMESGANG-f5u Жыл бұрын
That combo Ali dropped GF with in rd8 is a TOP10 moment in SPORTS history.
@justdynee
@justdynee Жыл бұрын
I think it was Ali's size which almost matched Foreman but was 4 pounds less with similar heights and reach that made him in this fight. He could tie up Foreman unlike Norton or Frazier. That is what he did in desperate and non desperate times. Over time the guy with the bigger muscles had to pay for carrying that extra weight. Foreman lifts weights in training, usually a no-no especially in them days. I think Foreman was out on his feet in rounds 5,6,7, and 8.
@therealc.t.7085
@therealc.t.7085 5 ай бұрын
Norton was actually slightly taller than Ali and physically stronger but he didn’t have the chin or style for Foreman.
@lucasmungoni5580
@lucasmungoni5580 Жыл бұрын
Just the fact that it was held in Africa already made it a hit
@itsnotme3882
@itsnotme3882 Жыл бұрын
Why? Couldn’t a great fight have been held anywhere and still been a great fight? It’s about the fighters isn’t it?
@drinfernodds
@drinfernodds Жыл бұрын
​@itsnotme3882 the promoter Don King was working with the government of Zaire, whose leader wanted the publicity of the fight for his country. Basically like how Saudi Arabia throws a ton of money to host boxing bouts now, like Fury vs Ngannou.
@camoss3724
@camoss3724 8 ай бұрын
@@drinfernodds Plus, Don King couldn't get the funding or the venue for the fight in the United States. Or anywhere else for that matter.
@davida.munene9118
@davida.munene9118 Жыл бұрын
Often recognized for his speed, his brute strength is so underated. He manhandled foreman even in the early rounds, He was really really strong
@jameshogan6142
@jameshogan6142 4 ай бұрын
Just watch the birds eye burger ad where Ali and his Mom appear together. It is easy to see where he got his size and strength from.
@headroomdave3468
@headroomdave3468 3 ай бұрын
Ali's greatest asset was he could take a punch that was also his downfall. Foreman punched himself out. And he wasn't used to fighting that long. All the extra time in Africa and the cut. Had an effect on him. I also remember reading back then. That he lost like 30 pounds in 6 weeks. Never thought ali was gonna win back then was A shock😮 I met Foreman 30 years later when he was 55. Unbelievable unbelievable physical specimen then did not look his age at all.
@TECHNOIR
@TECHNOIR Жыл бұрын
George Foreman has long belied F. Scott Fitzgerald's maxim 'There are no second acts in American life' - George is a fantastic human being, love him. Ali's victory was genius and arguably birthed the perfect George. George would be one of the first to admit that losing was one of the best things he has done
@pauldrew3696
@pauldrew3696 Жыл бұрын
There were probably only 3 times Foreman hit Ali clean in the face or jaw, but those shots would have dropped anyone else. The man was simply mythical with an iron will.
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 10 ай бұрын
❤exactly well said and well REASONED.
@VegetaWien89
@VegetaWien89 Жыл бұрын
The remastered video we have all been waiting for!
@sethteeter5225
@sethteeter5225 Жыл бұрын
You dont know how excited ive been for this thank you so much
@HatoriZenzo-un9gx
@HatoriZenzo-un9gx Жыл бұрын
i think we all like ali because he always looks like you are watching a movie where human is fighting against MONSTERS , he looks too human too smart and speed while his opponent alwas huge and musclar and like predator this era was so cool for heavyweight
@howardacquistapace5967
@howardacquistapace5967 Жыл бұрын
"the mummy" tag was given by Ali to name how foreman would be moving near the end of fight after Ali , as he had planned, allowed him to wear himself out throwing all those huge blows without really connecting with the elusive and self protected defense Ali had cooked up. Ali, pre fight quote "I'll be the mummy's curse"
@TechnoLawyer
@TechnoLawyer Жыл бұрын
Ali, fear? I’d think this fight would show he had none. Foreman had demolished Frazier and Norton, looked like he’d do the same to Ali. And Ali shit talked Foreman before the fight, shit talked him during the fight, beat him mentally, then beat him physically. My favorite comment from Foreman on this fight was that there was a point where he nailed Ali with a perfect right and Ali said “is that all you got George?”. Foreman said he thought “yeah actually” and got really discouraged 😆
@blisshyatt6350
@blisshyatt6350 8 ай бұрын
I loved the first Ali Foreman breakdown you made and very happy you did one in much more detail. Keep em coming!!
@riossalinas2819
@riossalinas2819 Жыл бұрын
Your breakdowns are professional and sound. Love this
@eddyyt7466
@eddyyt7466 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, you introduced me to the great Emanuel Augustus and I’ll forever thank you for that.
@abrorakbaraliyev6051
@abrorakbaraliyev6051 7 ай бұрын
I have nothing but respect for both of these men as they showed us such a spectacle
@GaiJinGringo
@GaiJinGringo Жыл бұрын
So glad you did a proper vid on rumble in the jungle,besides the 6 min vid
@TimeNap
@TimeNap Жыл бұрын
I remember thinking this fight was All getting beat up for 5-6 rounds, then flipping it and winning. Then I watched it and was surprised that Ali was always in the fight and winning exchanges.
@tonyfortune346
@tonyfortune346 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm not sure how that narrative got started but everybody who hasn't actually watched the fight thinks that's how it went. I thought the same before my first time watching it.
@holywarrior96
@holywarrior96 Жыл бұрын
Please breakdown Evander "The Real Deal" Holyfield's gamelan for Tyson. You'd be perfect guy because you offer an unbiased insight and you'd a great job explaining the circumstances surrounding that fight.
@enreeekay2754
@enreeekay2754 Жыл бұрын
I’d really like an analysis on the Ken Norton - Larry Holmes fight, easily one of my favorite bouts of all time. Holmes taking the belt through a 15 round war with Norton was truly thrilling to see especially with how technically sound they both were. Keep up the good work my man, road to 1 million!
@JN_Nikki
@JN_Nikki Жыл бұрын
Foreman in his actual prime and champion🏆. Ali defeated him😮❤ He was so depressed that took 15 years to recover
@WarriorsOfYasheral
@WarriorsOfYasheral Жыл бұрын
Ali is still the greatest of all time.
@samueldowney2806
@samueldowney2806 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, thanks for this one man. Great video. Love both these legends.
@constantintummescheit4314
@constantintummescheit4314 Жыл бұрын
Man i love your channel I hope you keep it up man can you continue to break down George Foreman fights?
@andu1854
@andu1854 Жыл бұрын
I liked that Ali took on every top fighter during his career, so he did have some losses, but I still consider him one of the greatest (unlike Floyd, Who was only concerned with a 0 in lost column, and avoided fighters until they were last prime)
@antonydrossos5719
@antonydrossos5719 Жыл бұрын
While generally, there seems to be this rivalry between Boxers & Traditional Martial Artists, as a practitioner of Kung-Fu since 1989, I'm absolutely fascinated with the skills that Boxers posses! Excellent analysis of their respective techniques!
@freezhollywood
@freezhollywood Жыл бұрын
Ali is a from a different cloth. To survive a monster but not only survive the monster but conquer the monster!
@streetguru9350
@streetguru9350 Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize the other video was 6 years old, nice remaster. PLZ MORE MIKE TYSON CONTENT THOUGH!
@jerrodmecca7745
@jerrodmecca7745 Жыл бұрын
Notice that George sat down in his corner. Something he NEVER did. That was a tale tell sign to Ali that Foreman was wearing down.
@bobbyhulll8737
@bobbyhulll8737 Жыл бұрын
Foreman wasn’t used to fighting anyone past 4 rounds
@demoniac972
@demoniac972 Жыл бұрын
The extremely high level of these 2 warriors is incredible, here it is clear that boxing has nothing to envy of wing chun
@SOLE_II_SOUL
@SOLE_II_SOUL Жыл бұрын
“I know you have em picked, but I’mma show you how great I am!” Ali’s pre-speech is as legendary as this fight.
@genehauser3913
@genehauser3913 Жыл бұрын
You are the most interesting and the best fight video producer in KZbin.
@Tyrell_Corp2019
@Tyrell_Corp2019 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that Foreman trained under Sonny Liston who was defeated by Ali. Liston was a beast. Looking at footage just before their fight, most would put him crushing Ali. Gotta give it to Ali's incredible unique style tho. His near featherweight footwork and powerful jab really set him apart. There will never be another like him.
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 11 ай бұрын
And that snake like jab, sneaky right hand and footwork the likes of the HW division had ever seen.
@Tyrell_Corp2019
@Tyrell_Corp2019 11 ай бұрын
@@aarondigby5054 His footwork was so unique that Bruce Lee adopted it. (I read that in a book years ago,). Many people don’t know that. But when Bruce first came to America as a young man, martial arts wasn’t such a big thing. It was all about karate. His main art form Wing Chung, has limited footwork. Bruce, being the way that he was, changed things up and it all came from Ali’s footwork. Watch Bruce Lee in his films doing his own shuffle.
@darksu6947
@darksu6947 6 ай бұрын
Sonny Liston is one of the scariest men to ever walk the face of the earth.
@veryunusual126
@veryunusual126 5 ай бұрын
Man, you make such insightful and interesting videos about the legends of boxing, I LOVE IT🎉❤🎉❤🎉🎉
@OU888
@OU888 Жыл бұрын
Best one so far my guy
@SOULJALOS
@SOULJALOS Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you mentioned foreman’s jab and wrestling/defense (framing, hand trapping, controlling and turning opponents etc)
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын
Not to mention how he tripped over his own foot.🤣
@TheGunDude
@TheGunDude Жыл бұрын
Man you make these videos so incredible. Bringing the fights to life!
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