History of Nintendo's Failed Peripherals | Gaming History

While Nintendo is well known for stellar hardware on the console and handheld market, there were numerous amounts of hardware that also came out that weren't so stellar. 3 of which ended up being massive failures, especially when approaching the online market. Today we explore 3 of these.
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[@TheObsessiveGamer]

So note that I use the terms "killer app" and "128 bit era" here. The reason for that is because these were terms that were commonly used in the era. Killer app for instance was used alot by game journalists then (and to an extent now too) to refer to major system sellers. 128 bit era was what Nintendo and Sony were referring to the era. So as someone from the era, I am using the terms that were commonly used then, both for some authenticity and just cause I am use to it at this point. Edit: Also for those that don't believe me, here is a magazine from that very era (1999) that uses "Killer App" to refer to Shenmue on Dreamcast www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fepje3f4b29l61.jpg

[@AG-kb7yb]

Is this a collection of your individual videos?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@AG-kb7yb Yep it's a seamless compilation of 3 videos. I like many others do compilations once in a while. So watch them however you deem best

[@AG-kb7yb]

@@TheObsessiveGamer You should put compilation in the title to make it clear, at least in the description.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@AG-kb7yb Ah good point. Yeah i'll plan to include in the description. Thanks

[@AG-kb7yb]

@@TheObsessiveGamer Ideas for the series: Expansion pak Gba link cable Gyro GB/A games

[@GingerBradMan21]

kind of crazy how we went from floppy disk, to flash storage cartridges, to CD's, to Cartridges for handheld games, to CDs for hand held games and DVD and blu rays, all the while disk based hard drives were the norm the whole time only for everything to go back to cartridges as SSD's are the norm now.

[@TOBAPNW_]

To my knowledge the only handheld that used CD was the PSP

[@genderender]

@@TOBAPNW_ UMD was a slightly modified DVD format, its how it could hold almost 1GB of data per layer. a CD format in that size would only be able to hold a few hundred MB at most (see mini-disc also from Sony). as well, since its not actually a DVD it could hold a ton of movie data via h264 over DVD's mpeg2. honestly a pretty neat format that should have been used more than in a psp

[@shalpp]

Modern storage medium works differently than cartridges of old Those were essentially banks of data that could be tapped into like RAM at similar speeds through the cartridge bus (it's how all those fun add-ons work) SSDs and even switch carts now work like disks without any moving parts

[@skydiams2668]

Yeah nintendo went : Playing card, Cartridges (famicom , NES) , floppy (Famicom Disk system), handheld ( Game and Watch) cartridges (snes N64, Gameboy), cd (GC), cartridges (Ds 3ds) , cd (wii , wii u) , cartridges (Switch) they May have flops but they always tries to create exclusives and original designs :P

[@itsarin2166]

To be fair modern SSD and cartridge are way more capable compared to CDs and disk nowadays. So it'll only be natural for them to return to cartridge format.

[@thethirdpurseowner]

The 64DD could have been really cool if it had come out when promised. Like, that online service is almost exactly like what the Dreamcast had - imagine if Nintendo had beat them to the punch!

[@Yixdy]

But, it did come out? it used stupid ass 64mb floppy disks

[@thethirdpurseowner]

@@Yixdy Okay reread my comment. I said if it had come out _when promised_. i.e. if it had come out in 1996 like Nintendo had originally planned.

[@jamescunningham.8294]

@@Yixdyhe said if it came out when it initially was supposed to come out. The fact that it came out so late is what really did it in.

[@carljewett1659]

That was the problem with a lot of Nintendo add-ons is that they waited till it was too late to bring out those add-ons and why they didn't do well.

[@joeyreidelbach5509]

The reason why 64DD didnt reach Usa cause Nintendo of American killed it cause they thought it was pointless to release an Add-on near the unvealing of Project Dolphin aka (Gamecube) for a system that was going to be replace in a few years by the Gamecube and Nintendo doesnt want to be in a Sega sitition where Sega was supporting multiple consoles plus Nintendo ran into problems with 64 DD.

[@meganpayette5996]

I still can't get over the fact that the reason the Mobile Adapter GB never released here overseas is because not every kid was able to own a cell phone. Not the case nowadays!

[@Plaprad]

Still blows my mind that in the mid 90's we had a rich girl in my middle school class who got her own cell phone. It just blew everyone's mind. Even one of our teachers just stared when she showed it off it was such a big thing. Now, damn near everyone has one. I think I have three or four old ones laying around.

[@jonnyOysters]

A lot of adults back then didn't even have cellphones. I feel like it was the early to mid 2000s when you could take for granted most people having a cellphone.

[@AbsnormalCoolest]

we need a switch phone adapter

[@Clodd1]

Nobody remembers this, but back in the mid-2000s, Nintendo did this survey on their website asking if people wanted them to release an accessory to play N64 games on the GameCube, like an N64 Player. Looks like not many folks cared. Just imagine how cool it would've been if they had actually gone through with it.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I actually remember this poll. I voted in favour of it cause of how cool it sounded.

[@bluedistortions]

It would have flopped. In the mid 2000s, you could get an N64 for $20, assuming a Nintendo fan didnt already have one. Why bother with an adapter? Truth is, nobody would have bought it.

[@sneakerhead4770]

I actually never owned a GameCube. I’ve had nes snes n64 and the Wii and now I still have my 64 and I got snes classic mini with like 7k games on its pretty sick 8 year old me would have lost it. Back in the day a friend of mine did let me borrow his GameCube for a few months cause he didn’t play it. I think I just played ssx tricky on it that was a good game but I never got into GameCube too much didn’t feel like it was a must have I know some people liked it better than 64. I like classic games not really into the new stuff got a PS5 I never even opened the box just sitting in my closet smh I should prob get rid of it

[@Clodd1]

@@sneakerhead4770 You're definitely a retro gaming guy. Welcome!

[@brendancurry9808]

4:08 "such a surprise a flagship series to be on this add-on" I'd argue that's what you'd want for a product to be successful

[@michag4337]

i think they mean at that time. if it didnt work and you messed up a flagship launch that could be a killer back then.

[@RestlessWandererOriginal]

In crazy times, childhood nostalgia is my medicine

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Nostalgia is what I like to feed lol

[@wussup12345]

Time to grow up and face the world bro

[@Tazerboy_10]

Yup

[@chesspunk489]

​@@wussup12345Why can't you be grown up while enjoying nostalgia?

[@SGAM2020]

So that's why it's called the dolphin emulator

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yep . These guys knew what they were doing :P

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yep . These guys knew what they were doing :P

[@LeviathanTechWiz]

🐬🐬👋

[@Triple_R_93]

I legit got the GameCube online adaptor today just to play PSO on a private server 🤣

[@little_finger]

you can access private servers on gamecube online?

[@jb-br8bf]

@@little_finger yep. You need a modded version of the game, which means modchipping your console.

[@mrmxypltk]

​@@jb-br8bfthis isn't correct. There are private servers that you can connect to with just a standard broadband adapter. No modchip required. (source, I've done it, and also the Schthack server connection guides) You would need a modded system if using a Wii or Wii U, but not if using a Gamecube.

[@revengenerd1]

My OG Gamecube from 2004 has its BBA still, I do regret though around 2010 when a landlord illegally evicted me I had a cib mint condition BBA, and the box for my component lead (I still have the lead luckily) I remember when I played PSO I bought a custom made cheap PS/2 to GC adapter on Ebay so used a normal PC keyboard.

[@NobodyYouKnow01]

Nintendo: "Look, our Famicom can go online!" The world: Nintendo: "Look, you can download levels with our Satellaview!" The world: Nintendo: "...RandNet? The World: Nintendo by 2001: "Fine, no online first party games" The world: "HAHA NINTENDO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY ONLINE GAMES HAHA BAD CONSOLE"

[@Engdyn]

I thank the algorithm for suggesting me this video! Really well done video

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Algorithm is doing this video wonders. Thank you very much!

[@joebykaeby]

Fun drinking game: take a shot every time you hear the phrase "killer app" lol No but seriously I've seen longer videos about just one of these peripherals that weren't anywhere near as informative and well-done as the coverage here

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Don't actually, you 'll die lol But thank you :)

[@SupremeCheesePlz]

This was such an interesting video! I’ve been here from the start and it’s great to see how your channel grows and evolves, I love how you go all in with the information. It’s something that while other channels may cover the same topics, but they lack the all In information that your videos have.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thanks for the long time support! I try to be as thorough as I can while keeping it interesting

[@ShadowTraitYT]

Nintendo never made a successful add-on. Nowadays it's like the only add-on that you can buy is the non-nintendo made Game Genie 💀

[@Infindox]

I wouldn't consider the Sateliview non-successful, however the issue with it was only Japan had it.

[@Zinkolo]

I mean the game boy player was pretty successful.. As well as the expansion pack for the N64 but only because it was necessary. The Wii motion Plus was also pretty good and essential

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

@@Zinkolo Yeah but it became a lot easier to just make the Wii Remote Plus so the controllers themselves have gyroscopes.

[@rockettaco]

​@@Zinkolo Indeed. I remember using one on my GameCube when I was younger. All fun and games until the startup disc goes missing. xD

[@klonoafan2012]

The japan only famicom disk system was pretty successful when it was released back in 1986 selling a million units however the rampant piracy and the cost of making games for a disk being more then a simple cartridge ultimate killed it

[@natbatlightwood5288]

I kind of feel like they shouldn't have announced it before it was ready, given how ambitious the DD was for the times. Like i know they like to tease these things early to get the hype train going, but i feel like they should have waited until it was almost finalised and ready to go. And maybe it woulf have worked out better.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Even if they waited, I think it would have been too little too late with how late it came out in its life cycle

[@townsjim]

The 64DD still rustles my jimmies, it was showcased in Official UK Nintendo magazine for about 2 years, me and my friends were all excited to get our hands on it, and then out of the blue Nintendo announced that it would only be released in Japan. It was one of the biggest teases and letdowns for gamers of all time.

[@PhoenixFireG5683]

You have a new subscriber! This video thoroughly caught me up on gaming history I had missed out on through most of these past Generations. ✌️✨

[@Hunt4Yoshi]

Pretty sure the 64 had cartridges because the failed snes cd contracts left cd gaming in a negative light

[@Hiars_D.]

Wow, this video was amazing. So full of... Wow, just incredible. Unfortunately, in Brazil, most of these consoles were way above the minimum wage, making it nearly impossible to buy one unless someone was really rich or had way, way above average financial conditions. The internet only became widely accessible in Brazil around the 2000s. Unfortunately, Brazil is very behind in many things compared to the rest of the world, especially back then regarding video games. But I loved the video, full of information, very detailed. A solid 10.

[@pumpkinplushness]

Love seeing video drops from ya!!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thanks :)

[@jillthinksimabreakfasttaco4904]

I have watched many of your videos and I am impressed by your knowledge and thorough research on Nintendo game system history. Keep up the good work!

[@leviwarren6222]

Looks like Nintendo's best "add-ons" and peripherals have been console updates and upgrades. DS Lite/i, Wii Motion Plus, Switch OLED, Game Boy Color...

[@CreativeGeoff]

Even if the N64 had disks, the fact that it was released nearly 2 years after the OG PlayStation was really what stunted its popularity. Still, The 64 was a beast and a staple of my childhood!

[@GauBan2501]

I do enjoy videos like this. To see items that I have in my collection getting shown off with detailed to people who may not be aware of.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you! always neat to see something like that eh

[@V1VISECT6]

I remember Sony offering a peripheral allowing you to connect a ps1 to a mobile phone and download content. I don't think this ever took off,atleast outside of Japan.

[@zacwoods]

Funny considering the Wii is legit the greatest console “add-on” ever created. Many dont know it is just a slightly more powerful Gamecube in a white rectangle instead of a purple box. It started as an actual add on with the remote plugging straight into a Gamecube and being used for a few games.

[@LethalBubbles]

Do they count as failed if they never really got a large distribution in the first place? I think in some of these cases, Nintendo would've just cancelled them, but had some obligations, such as RandNET for the N64, or with the mobile phone companies, or SEGA with the modem/BBA. So they released a very small number of them to say they did, then wrote what they could off. Well yeah I guess that's a failure from a business sense. But the thing is, the modem, and especially the 64DD had large followings of fans who would've bought more if they had been made available. With the cancellation of the N64, and the piracy concerns with the GCBBA, it makes sense why they chose what they did. But the 64DD was consistently the "Most Wanted" in Nintendo Power's list of up coming games, for like 4 years. I really wish it, and the GC's 3D monitor would've been fully released reached their full potential. Imagine LAN parties on 4 GCs hooked together with no need for TVs, or expansion packs and internet for N64. Amazing stuff.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thanks and failed is subjective but it's failed as in it didn't meet Nintendos expectations when they were developing it. They expected it to be a bunch bigger deal, to launch and have mass appeal, but ultimately it wnet nowhere as they themselves weren't sure how to tackle it. Granted the 64DD only was at the top there cause both A) No one knew about its price and B) it had a large lineup of games at the time before it left the platform.

[@ShadowSliph]

I'm pretty sure the choice to use cartridges had more to do with Nintendo's _very_ public falling out with Sony, and the failure of the Phillips CD-i, along with Nintendo's licensed content on it.

[@42calking53]

No one is going to mention the sewing machine or the GB real sonar fish finder that actually workes in water as any other fish finder of that time

[@Odelayderado]

Imagine how much bigger super Mario 64or legend of Zelda ocarina of time could have been with discs maybe we would get Luigi and yoshi to ride in Mario and the time events and more interactive world like what was thought of in ura Zelda

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Zelda especially. I mean Mario 64 2 was being planned for it 64DD and was to feature both of those, so may be quite on the ball there

[@Killertamagotchi]

Technically speaking, the 64DD discs would be quite similar to a Zip disk and in theory they could have held as much as the Zip disk later, which would have been a maximum of 750 MB. However, because of the constant shifting that caused the 64DD to flop, there was only the standard 64MByte disk

[@hectorosbert]

I thoroughly enjoyed this video and found it very informative. Hope to see more!

[@Bro-cx2jc]

Nintendo was pretty smart using Mini DVDs to overcome load times for the GameCube as well. And while I'm not certain, I think the way the Wii used full sized DVDs also sped things up. So the guy wasn't wrong, those problems were definitely overcome lol

[@NEStalgia1985]

I think the problem was that Nintendo started way back with the disk system and created a department called add on hardware peripherals and so rather than relocate the workers they kept em together and that's how the super Nintendo play station idea came to a possibility, then when it failed they assisted Philips, then after that they had a new console and the department handled and made the 64dd. Yokoi needed a department to supervise and for three home consoles and 1 portable he got them. I read somewhere the st. Giga and wowow had gunpei Yokois grandfather on the board of directors/new products and seeing his nephews genius inventions he thought it best to team up with Yokoi and Nintendo because he couldn't hire him due to contracts as well as nepotism. Then sadly enough he got called to video game heaven and I pray he never created a virtual boy disc drive......

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

There was a team just for add-ons? That's interesting to hear. Any idea what the name of the department was? Would be neat to read up on them.

[@GameJunctionMedia]

64DD just didn’t reach that level that the Satellaview did in Japan. Truly unfortunate. Still today though, the 64DD is my holy grail.

[@gamehulk]

Magneto Optical was a damn cool technology. We used it on ultrasound machines back in the day. A fairly large durable storage medium. We backup dozens of ultrasound cases to them and keep them in a cabinet in the cardiology department. It was hell to digitize them though because there were hundreds of the things and the MO readers were slow as heck.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Oh interesting, didn't realize hospitals were using that tech. Was it more the zip disk variety?

[@gamehulk]

@@TheObsessiveGamer No, they were big just like the DD64 disks and held over 1GB. If you pulled the little slider on the case open it looked like a CD inside. Now that I'm trying to remember, these ultrasound machines were from the late 90's and had S-VHS drives on them for export and were being phased out by the time I got hired. The MO drive was actually on the server. On the "new" machines we would send to the server and the MO disks were used to archive off old cases. Zip disks were used in the consumer space, but in medical it was MO disks or magnetic tape. CD burning was never reliable enough to use for archiving. When they got rid of the system that used the MO discs, they put in a tape jukebox and once every few months you had to go in and remove the full tapes and swap in blank ones. Man, there's a lot of goofy old tech we used to use over the years that are dead and buried now. Good riddance lol

[@Nathan-mu1pz]

The video of Miyamoto playing Ocarina in the office looks like a treasure, where can I find that??

[@josephcronin2965]

I had the gamecube dial up modem and I used to play the crap out of phantasy star online. Man I really liked that game. And surprisingly, there wasn't a ton of lag or anything. It was a good experience, especially since we had two phone lines. I had to get very fast to type quickly on the controller as I did not have that keyboarde controller. (I really wanted it though.)

[@Plaprad]

I do remember the thing that connected a GBA and Gamecube. On my first deployment to the desert I bought a GBA and GC. Actually still have the GBA. I wound up buying the cable for like 2 Dinars in Kuwait City. Yeah, it was bootleg and didn't work. Much like all those DVD's and PS2 games we bought.

[@gjms]

I sooo remember dissecting each damn photo of the DD and dreaming what it could do. 😢 A valuable lesson in trust for a child.

[@IceKoldKilla]

Nintendo backstabbing Sony lead to the PlayStation, PlayStation 2 and Dreamcast all being threats to the N64 in its lifetime. GameCube wasn't until 2001. And then they had Xbox to deal with too. Nintendo really suffered for years. The Wii saved them. In terms of portable consoles, they never struggled. Even with PSP being huge, DS was successful.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah Nintendo was haunted for years over that one bad decision. Glad they finally were able to pull through eventually. Switch really now feels like the modern SNES

[@theendofit]

If more modern consloles used cartridges it would drastically cut down on how much space games take up on systems. The whole reason they rake up so much space is that optical is way to slow so discs act more as a key and full game is on your system.

[@rionthemagnificent2971]

They should have worked with HDD manufacturers, to make a flash cart style system for the 64 that contained 3x-4x the space of a n64 cart. As the 64DD disks from Nintendo + ALPS are notoriously fragile.

[@JClark2600]

@0:45 Sure PS1 came out in 94 but so did Wing Commander 3 (PC). In WC3 the dev's had a known quantity and designed full cut scene movies well before Playstation even knew what that was. Still to this day, the WC3 (PC) game argument, why the PC is better that console holds up. Consoles are proprietary and very expensive. PC's on the other hand have economies of scale seeing they have large companies buying hardware thus driving down the cost of R&D opening them up to a better market. The only real reason to buy a console is marketing, you favorite game dev only has a license with say MS or PS.

[@encycl07pedia]

You don't even know what a date being "pushed up" means. A release date being moved up means it comes out EARLIER, not later!

[@zaxchannel2834]

I still don't get why the broadband adapter never got support outside of PSO

[@danieljimenez1989]

It's not true that it was a halfway point but a master of none. All of the 64MB were writable, which was a huge amount. Consider a whole ps2 memory card was usually 8MB. The DD was a pioneer of persistent storage, this is why the track editor is DD exclusive in F-Zero X, since the cart could only store some 64kB in flash.

[@fakefakerson9444]

The claim that Kirby 64 was moved in the 64DD shuffle and turned into Kirby Air Ride is a bit inaccurate considering Sakurai put out his dev diary video on it and basically said it was born from going "uuuuuuuh crap we need something to go with the release of the Right Back At Ya! cartoon. Let's make a racing game they're cheap and quick". Maybe it was inspired by that tech demo that definitely resembled Air Ride but the two seem unrelated going by Sakurai's word.

[@ark01000]

Fun fact. The bba actually really wasn't a failure. It was a predecessor to the Wii's online functionality. It was launched as an exiting new thing but Nintendo decided to focus on games more until the next gen. The adapter is still functional for land connection, games like curby and Mario kart I think can use land. While phantasy star online focused on a more mmo format and is still functional today if u change to a private server in setting.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Well it was a failure in the sense that Nintendo wanted a big internet play with the system but they never could come up with one, so it was in the end a failure in how underutilized it was by Nintendo. What came after is a different story entirely and what the fans did themselves is especailly another story

[@ultimate_pleb]

64DDs nuts!

[@5gods]

34:13 my favorite GBC game of all time (the blue one)

[@mannhimself]

The modem and broadband adapter couldve been utilized more, sadlymitnjust wasnt. I could go for the DD addon for my 64 too if it was released in NA.

[@little_finger]

the mobile online for pokemon crystal was so innovative

[@themetalgamer9864]

Imagine an alternative history where Nintendo 64 pioneers DLC, online gaming, AND gets a port of Final Fantasy 7.

[@G.L.999]

Zip Disks should've been the storage medium for the N64 at its launch if not CDs. Only increase the storage of the Zip Disks from 64mgbytes, to 128mgbytes or 256mgbytes(depending on how cheap and afforadable it would be to get extra data on the Zip Disks). And if the cartridge slot remains, have it be served for other purposes like an SNES converter to play SNES games on the N64 and add in more RAM functionalities for bigger and better games for better results! Or if Nintendo wanted to absolutely make cartridges the main thing of their priority, and NOT invest in any CDs or Zip Disks, another alternative they could've tried was to take all the standard cartridge chips that exist in each cartridge and placed them all inside the N64 console itself. That way, all that Nintendo and third parties had to do was focus on the ROM chip side of manufacturing; games would've been way cheaper, afforadable and easier to develope for; keeping software prices down to a reasonable level. Because of the fact that each cartridge had alot of chips inside of each cartridge sold, the more that were inside the cartridge, the higher the price of the games were. Instead starting out the introduction of the N64 with cartridge sizes from 4 to 8 to mgbytes of data at launch, we could've had game data storage from 16 to 24 to 32 mgbytes at launch. Then as time would go on, the cartridge ROM storage would greatly increase 48 to 64 to 96 to 128 and 160 mgbytes of cartridge ROM data as time would go on!

[@SicketMog]

What's the song playing in the background in the beginning? I know/recognize it SO well but can't think of where it's from rn. Mario Kart? Edit: ah yeah it was MK64 (first stage) but a bit slowed it seems?

[@CyberFoxy87]

Think there was a Nintendo Power magazine in the past that had people voting Zelda 64 over the 64DD Wondering if that's what gave them the clue that people weren't worried about the DD so they cancelled .. IDK I would have loved to see where the DD would have gone.. But was not to be :/

[@codename96]

Zelda 64 should've been bare bones how they showed it the followed up with ochraina of time

[@FlameRat_YehLon]

And my guess on the online service of Switch is that Nintendo was just a bit too early to the party when coming to home console level handheld. Back then Tegra was actually the only reasonable choice because of its GPU power, but its CPU was infamously bad and that ultimately lead to Nintendo dropping almost all of the systemwide features, and that includes most of the online features as well. But I guess ultimately it just worths to popularize the idea of playing full format games on the go. Not that it's the only choice though, as there have also been quite some mobile games that got rather close to the production quality of home console games, and the dev would expect the player to play on different platform using cross saves.

[@catantcha99]

The problem with games on phones is people won't even buy games that cost more than a dollar even if it is a fully featured game like all those final fantasy games that say they only have like 10,000 downloads even though they are full games

[@FlameRat_YehLon]

@@catantcha99 giving how pricey micro transactions can be, I think the issue is more on poor marketing rather than that the market weren't there. Some people pay for mobile games because they know they will get something back, while full price games is like, nobody would ever know if the game fits them. More dedicated gamers can tolerate wasting money on unsuitable games every now and then (or, maybe all the time because actually playing the game takes quite some grind), but that's just not the case for casual gamers, which is like almost all of mobile gamers. And therefore it actually make no sense to charge the full price of the game up front on mobile. At least not without full refund guarantee or demo version.

[@nr5834]

The BBA plus PSO was pretty useful for loading isos to my gamecube *shrug*

[@IceKoldKilla]

Lol so Nintendo did paid online subscriptions and library of games before Xbox did Xbox Live and before Sony started offering PlayStation Plus. 🤯🤯🤯

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yep, Nintendo preceded them all by quite a bit

[@AndrewGistKlaxMaster]

Seeing as the SNES and even the NES had it...

[@JerseyDevils21]

Cartridges were cool to have in a collection, but honestly cds were the way to go

[@holdupits420]

No loads times was actually legit tho so cartridge is best

[@25143J2]

You do know The legeng of Zelda: Oracle of Secrets was scapped early in development right? You showed a box art of a game that almost existed but never was finished.

[@joshuadenton346]

Nintendo was way too stubborn on switching to normal disks. I remember getting my GameCube and being mad when i realized i couldn't play cds in it.

[@Nytrusdeathcyde]

idk if i would cincidere the ethernet adapter for gc was a falure i mean phantasy star online did use it oine of the best games of that era imo

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

It's a failure in that Nintendo heavily underused it. They wanted an online landscape but didn't give a damn

[@themetalgamer9864]

Damn. Imagine Final Fantasy 7 on N64.

[@minordelayz]

Playstation games used barely any of that 700mb CD capacity. It was all FMV and Red Book audio.

[@zitrodivad]

i just started wondering, if they’ll ever add the 64dd games to nso??

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@zitrodivadreally should. Hey access to Master Quest and F-Zero Expansion

[@zitrodivad]

@@TheObsessiveGamer also mario artist! 🎨 🤓

[@cliffcorson4000]

A major reason for Nintendo dropping to 3rd was that they never targeted the hard core gamers. 99% of all games were "family friendly" and that's where Playstation and Xbox leaped ahead. The designed games as well as had 3rd party developers that looked at the hard core gaming community and gave them "killer" games

[@Chrisezo]

Nintendo to this day is still playing catchup with other competitors, because just look at the Switch which used a somewhat old chip when it came out, and not to mention that the services they provide through their Online subscriptions, are vastly inferior to what Sony and Microsoft offer, and a lot of people say to try and defend Nintendo that they use old tech and stuff to make stuff "affordable", and have a "new take on using old stuff" but to me it just means that they just refuse to get on with the times, which make the people in leadership roles at Nintendo just boomers that do not understand the current landscape, and you can also say the same for their other affiliated companies such as Gamefreak, which is why the newer Pokemon game releases have been so bad, but these companies will never learn their lesson as people continue to blindly support them, out of some misplaced loyalty or something as if they owe these companies anything.

[@suntannedduck2388]

Link cables to Wii U continuation of the same idea. VMU to Wii U is similar. Otherwise yeah. They try. Only few ideas, end it. Some fail, some end on used up ideas. Also DD, Zip Disks.

[@powerfulaura5166]

6:51 Diablo is an RPG lol.

[@NEStalgia1985]

Hey that brawl commercial might be lost media

[@joonboi84]

39:02 is this a RECENT community update on the dreamcasts online systems? Like can you just go online still on a Dreamcast????

[@Danakedgamer0523]

Imagine paying a hundred yen in Japan for a pokemon news service that's free now, I also always wanted a GS ball in pokemon gold but I never had a cell phone until like 05’ years later now I just use emulators to get celebi literally without using pokemon home to get it

[@Ultima_Atulos_Maxim]

What is the video source of the clip at 2:08 and ending at 2:17?

[@sundhaug92]

CDs have another problem: At the time the mechanism was very expensive

[@Disneymagic24]

loved this video!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you! :)

[@woman-at-arms]

liquidation doesn't mean ending it means selling

[@zombl337og]

this stuff is only like 30 yrs old, but feels like its 100

[@codename96]

Lol we still have load times just disgusted as cut scenes

[@Astromanaught]

Nintendo NEVER figured out online. even the switch absolutely sucks when it comes to online multiplayer. It's at least 3 generations behind.

[@justdaddy]

not true, Mario Kart 7 had flawless online on my 3DS. it was quick, stable and very easy to use. it's still my favorite online mode of any game I've played, ever.

[@FriendofMineralTown]

Nintendo: we thought we’d test something for a niche market for fun and we never expected it to be a 10 million unit seller KZbinrs in the west: ALL OF NINTENDO’S FAILURES

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yep :)

[@KawaiiEvoMii]

The random ladies they had doing the GameCube reveal were funny to me for some reason lmao They look goofy

[@Fr0zenNightmare]

Still the best example for me is the broadband adapter for the GameCube. Iirc only the two Phantasy Star Online games could use it (Episode 1+2 and Episode 3), so why ould you really buy it? It's not a good game, even though I remember playing it for so many hours. And I remember an interview grom a magazine with EA, which said they won't have their next racing game or fifa (can't remember 100%) online ready on GameCube because there aren't enough broadband adapters sold... well, no shit, if next to no games can use it, why would you buy it?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Indeed the case. I mean PSO was popular cause it was an early online console game with a semi-mmo perspective. But yeah the EA problem there goes back to Nintendo just not giving a damn in promoting it

[@Stonerbear7754]

What about the Nintendo PokeFlute? When I was younger, I was driven to Nintendo HQ but a man in a white Van. He told me about the Nintendo PokeFlute which you play with your mouth, the downside was you had to close your eyes when using it, which in assuming is why it was never released

[@chesspunk489]

The pokeflute got cancelled due to white discharge coming from the end of it.

[@MorgorDre]

Please dont show the light blue N64 on top of black 64DD. That really shurt in eyes and heart.

[@jasongeyer2111]

man N 64 days were awesome ❤

[@MarkCodyDirtAndMingle]

Man; this video is very interesting - but the editing between the images of things you're talking about is way too fast and I keep having to pause to look at things (that are quite obscure; hence I want a longer look at them) and I find that it's really stressing me out. Slow down! Where's the fire?

[@alejandrovega7343]

I got star wars dark forces remastered for the nintendo switch oled model I am definitely going to buy star wars battlefront classic collection and kingdom come deliverance for the nintendo switch oled also star wars force unleash

[@Fuchie]

It's ironic how Nintendo tried to innovate and pioneer online gaming on console to only be beaten by Microsoft and Sony down the line. Nintendo is still far behind with its online services.

[@johneygd]

Whether nintendo was heady or lazy with what they were planning,they still did delivered those products so they did kept their promisis and they paved the way for the future so they atleast tryed it and that’s what matters😁👍

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah they may have been badly handled at least they slowly learned to adapt

[@ashkirby8896]

Where’s the Satelleview and Super Game Boy, 2 of the most famous add-ons for the SNES/Super Famicom?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

None of those were failures

[@ashkirby8896]

@@TheObsessiveGamer What about the Famicom Disk System?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@ashkirby8896 not a failure

[@itchey911]

Like everything at its time all good things start off hot and then become cold. Add-ons to things and once we're a good idea at the time like Nintendo did over the course of the Decades!!

[@dun0790]

Something i wonder there were demos of a GBA with a touchscreen at some point with Nintendos history i wonder if this was what the DS was going to be but past disasters with the DD and sony Famicom Nintendo decided this should be an all or nothing venture not just an add on to prolonge the life but a third pillar or experiment

[@savage751]

Hmmm Nintendo went from N64 (successful) GameCube (flop) Wii (successful) WiiU (flop) Switch (successful) so history tells us there next console will be a flop. Not counting handhelds

[@peluquin98]

39:56 man why did they discard the red gamecube

[@FennecTECH]

the "128 bit era" doesn't exist. there were never any true 128 bit consoles and only recently with ps4 and xbox one have we gotten true 64 bit consoles. we will **NEVER** see a console with a 128 bit memory address range. i doubt wewill ever see a CPU with a 128 bit address range as there is literally no point unless you find an application for a processor with more ram than all of the data we have ever created. both ps2 and origional xbox were 32 bit consoles. as was the n64 (it was just a dual processor system similar to modern multicore processors) the number of bits in a consoles cpu address range ceased to be useful as an metric of its capabilities after the 16 bit era the only reason we ditched 32 bit CPUs in computers is because we needed more than 4GB of ram thats litteraly all the address space (bits) of a cpu does is determine how much memory the CPU can work with.

[@goldensyrupgamingshow2978]

Killer App

[@seanshingatok303]

GB mobile would have been awesome!