The Last of the Starks [GOT 8x4] GAME OF THRONES 8x4 [REACTION] First Time Watching!

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[@judson9223]

So glad you guys recognised the tragedy of Missandei's last moments being spent in chains.

[@TheOctobersReact]

that was the worst freaking part!

[@EchanteDante]

Yeah it sucked! But of all the deaths to make Dany go from “I want to be different…I want to make the world a better place for the people. To I want everyone innocent to die!”

[@SilverBloodedOne]

If I were Missandei I would’ve grabbed Cersei, jumped off that ledge and killed us BOTH Game over! 😂

[@sivannatalie]

A kill from the grave

[@amazingronaldo9656]

Right? Either grab her and jump or just jump so Cersei doesn't get to have her killed.

[@RobertHoward-d8g]

Would have been a better ending than the one that followed.

[@leeyaferguson9019]

@@SilverBloodedOne AGREED.

[@ashscott6068]

"What kind of person climbs on a fucking dragon?" "Umm...YOU did, Tormund! Remember? Last season? The thing with the little rocky island in the frozen lake?"

[@ronaldamcmillian6014]

Fun fact… when this aired live a Starbucks cup was on the table. They edited it out later.

[@AstroAvenger]

Funny thing is reviewers that had seen the episode days before knew about it, but couldn't say anything due to an NDA.

[@slipknot95maggot]

@@AstroAvenger THAT is a fun fact. The starbucks thing, meh. The idea that somebody knew and COULDN'T say because of NDAs, hilarious

[@monlovchel]

Also, remember Varys DID look Dany in the eye and said he felt she was doing the wrong thing.

[@Tsunami7964]

What had she done wrong at that point? I’ve not watched the final season for a while now but from what I can remember, she’s at dragonstone..?

[@Steez224]

and remember Dany did burn Varys when he conspired against her.

[@Steez224]

@@Tsunami7964 Nothing. He's lost his marbles.

[@gintuner4371]

@@Tsunami7964what has she done wrong? She has always been a conqueror by force. She has been a complete psychopath ever since Drogos death.

[@girlnettles]

And Daenerys LISTENED to him and they did this siege meet-up thing. EVEN AFTER HER DRAGON WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE SKY!!! She STILL listened to Varys. So what’s the problem now?

[@sariel8406]

Dany wasnt using Jorah. Not being able to love someone back yet still being in their company isnt "using".

[@kcitsgt]

Dany’s problem is she told herself she was the best leader and everyone around her agreed. As long as she stayed across the narrow sea, there were no great leaders to compare herself to. When she got to Westeros people had been competing for the throne for centuries, they had honed their skills. Jon was a great leader because he’d been surrounded by great men and women. Dany had not. She only had a few trusted people and they were mostly “yes men” when confronted with seeing how people followed Jon even though he didn’t want them to, she was shaken.

[@alicia1465]

Dany doesn’t have a claim, but she has spent her adult life doing everything to get the throne she felt she was entitled to…she has taken on Dothraki armies that once pillaged, raped, and enslaved people to fight her war, she has conquered lands in the East to gain armies, etc. Sansa isn’t in the wrong. She has seen how people who feel entitled to absolute power behave. She knows that Jon bent the knee out of love and not in the best interest of the North, even if it was needed for the battle against the Night King. Rewatching the whole series recently made me realize that the “heroes” aren’t always good and right.

[@awadoma2702]

No one is Entitled to sit on the throne!! The Targaryens took it by force Then Robert took it from them by force The Lanisters took it by force Now Dany wants to take it back by force The throne belongs to whoever is strong enough to take it and strong enough to hold it.

[@gintuner4371]

Which doesn‘t mean its right, and why we prefer living in democracies xD

[@thedrinkinggamemaker9749]

​@@gintuner4371best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter, to best understand why Greek Philosophers scoffed at the idea

[@gintuner4371]

@@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 ok, and yet our entire world revolves around it and thrives more than ever before. Greek philosophers also believed in some pretty ridiculous stuff, its not enough to just say „greek philosophers said a thing and theyre obviously smarter than we are“ if you have a point to make, go ahead, but so far i cant see any in what youre saying

[@michaelnavarro964]

28:19: Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet...

[@baronhomer1]

She's a horrible leader

[@TenTonNuke]

...but they haven't forgotten about her!

[@SIREN27]

the writers forgot

[@dero2430]

@@mjq3555 Forgetting about the Iron Fleet doesn't make it invisible lmao. The fact that she didn't notice them from the sky is a joke...

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

​​@mjq3555 Um, maybe because they obliterated one of her allies fairly recently?? His fleet already wrecked her on two fronts! Plus, she saw his fleet with her own eyes when she went to KL for the meeting with Cersei.

[@ravenofwar]

I believe it's one month to get from King's Landing to Winterfell.

[@adrianpeart]

sure, by carriage

[@ravenofwar]

@adrianpeart In the book it seemed like a pretty slow-moving procession. There was at least one wheelhouse for Cersei and the children. They brought a bunch of extra people to tend to everyone, plus there were a lot of freeriders that just tagged along. I believe Robert also brought his collection of Targaryan weapons with him. And who knows how much of their clothes and stuff the lot of them brought since we know there was at least one feast.

[@kemikemi]

If Dany had taken Lady Oleanna' advise to "BE A DRAGON" right of the bat, she would have her 2 dead dragons alive, King' landing and Cersei' head of a pike. It's ok, show must go on as written LOL!

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

D & D liked the actress who plays Cersei so much they didn't want to kill her off so they destroyed Dany's army and dragons to level the playing field.

[@hypocritex]

Dany doesn't have a claim. Jon being alive nullifies it. She is owed nothing in terms of succession.. Unless Jon is dead. Whether he wants it or not.. He is the best equipped to be a good ruler as well.

[@isiahfed]

Exactly and people are so blind to this because of their feelings towards dany

[@theIronwolf1984]

This...and also the fact that the Mad King lost the throne by right of conquest No Targaryen had claim anymore at least until Dany conquered them again...but in terms of heirs I guess technically since all his kids w Cersei were Jamie's then Stannis should have been on the throne and was the only one with an actual claim on it since none of Robert's bastards were legitimized. ..lol sorry for the ramble but those that claimed that Dany was right to be mad cause her birthright was taken...and it's like nah it was never hers or jons since they were overthrown...anyway cheers

[@morpheusjones4753]

Wouldn't abdication have been a solution? Jon announcing to the north that he refuses the crown?

[@slipknot95maggot]

He is NOT the best, you are welcome to argue that he is the BETTER as compared to Dany, but he is NOT the best he's an ignorant moody dork who has spent his life in isolation he knows NOTHING about the kingdoms, there are literally prolly HUNDREDS of better choices than Jon, and to move to address the dork beneath you, "and people are blind to this because of their feelings towards Jon" He readily explicitly admits he doesn't even know all the houses in the North. Literally wtf are you talking about saying he would be best.......? Tyrion and Varys powercouple, boom, sh4t all over Jon with half a brain cell and one lazy idea. I'd have taken Lady Mormont over Jon easy. Do you really want me to list off people who haven't spent their life in a moody coma ignoring most of the world around them.........? His whole life was shunting himself into a corner, then being at a wall with a hundred criminals, then walking around in the snow for [a long time]. Now he's THE BEST EQUIPPED, with his inability to even keep track of all the houses in his own really rather sparsely populated patch of snow Insane Delusional Self-assured Kookoo talk He's a moody dork. Let him live in peace. A man who tried to, OOPS DID, unalive him, tried [perhaps even literally] to curse Jon right before he got unalived by saying "you'll be doing stuff for them forever", he clearly just wants to live in peace, you're trying to employ him with the single highest position in the land. Literally I don't even believe you like him as a person with how you're trying even so many years later to ruin his life by forcing everything he's fought against upon him. Even I am doing more justice by him, and I'm the one who keeps calling him a moody dork. At least I listen to him. And pay attention to his life and qualifications He is NOT the best equipped I don't care to argue with you about him as compared to Dany, do feel free to make that claim instead next time :D

[@slipknot95maggot]

@@morpheusjones4753 ............he already did that.......................... can I direct your attention backwards a few episodes.......? To be clear I love your idea personally, don't mean to be rude. But the North sucks. He came back and said "naah she got it" and they all caused a scene

[@DC3328]

Cutting away from Sansa and Arya learning about Jon got me heated lol

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

They did waaaaay too much off screen in seasons 6, 7, and 8.

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

At the end of the episode you can actually see the moment when Dany went insane.

[@shonquesanders4232]

She didn’t go insane .. smh she was angry and hurt that she lost everything and gave her all to a group of people who did not appreciate that she left everything and gave it all for nothing.

[@Intel50]

@@shonquesanders4232she went insane , I don’t get how you can deny it

[@starsimvidz]

Euron's magical, invisible armada and pin point accurate ballistas are almost comical

[@newdohl]

Always amazes me that The Iron Isles, containing only "Rocks and birdsh*t," can produce and man 1,000 ships in such a short amount of time. And how are these ships able to score a first-shot hit on a fast moving, flying target without being in visual range? -endrant

[@DukeJimbob]

Ships must be made of rocks and the bird shit is the glue

[@Ceractucus]

Seriously. Imagine the King died and there was no Euron. Yarra could build the fleet to end all fleets, How did they ever lose. Being on an island and having utter mastery of the sea means they never get invaded, but can invade anwhere near an ocean, or deep enough river with impunity.

[@slipknot95maggot]

Rocks and birdstuff is obviously meant to tell us something true while being stated through a heavily overstated filter. ....They're the boat people. Yeh. They made a lot of boats. If THEY had been the ones employed to *also* build the scorpions, then you would have a point. ...they're the boat people you dork XD

[@slipknot95maggot]

@@Ceractucus ...........Yarra WAS promising to rebuff their armies and make them more - ... god, y'all really just try so hard. How did who ever loose...? The ironborn....? Because - ....... Theon and Yarra....? Because - ...... Dawg what are you talking about XDDDDD

[@nicolasguzman519]

It is known the iron born get what they need from others, it not would be strange if they had obtained the woods the needed it from the closest lands

[@seanmorehouse2834]

As rough as Jaime leaving Brienne is I think there's two things going on. One, he's just in love with Cersei. Good people fall in love with evil people all the time and it screws their whole life up like has happened to him. He cares about Brienne a lot but at the end of the day she's a friend who he got drunk and slept with and she caught feelings, she's not his girl. I think him being harsh with her as he's leaving is just him trying to give her the "It's not you it's me" thing. He's trying to tell her it isn't her fault it isn't going to work out, so she doesn't feel like she did anything wrong. Second thing is he also has to go back for honor. He's pledged to Cersei and he's a Lannister. Going north to battle for life vs. death is one thing but siding with Dany against his own family would be something different. He would feel like a coward if he just sat around and let his own house get wiped out without doing anything. It sucks but ultimately it's the right decision for him to leave.

[@TheOctobersReact]

i loved this comment bro, genuinely i was siting here in my head thinking about it then your comment popped up and you nailed it!

[@seanmorehouse2834]

@@TheOctobersReact I don't know if y'all have finished watching yet so I'm not gonna say anything but there is a second part to this that I'll post on the last episode video.

[@TheOctobersReact]

we finished, but just don't say anything till its over so people wont get spoiled, I'm surprised how many ppl are watching for the first time with us. that makes me feel happy! some people don't understand we are ahead in real time unlike you so thanks for being considerate!

[@nyztan0]

The script for season 8 is just incredibly bad unfortunately, there is no way to justify the writing for Jamie no matter how hard you try to bend it around to make it fit.

[@LuvFearlessly]

He definitely also “caught feelings.” She brings out the best in him. The attachment just didn’t have long enough to develop enough to ultimately keep him away from his sister who is pretty and clever but has no other redeeming qualities (other than loving a few beings that are 50%+ her DNA). His character development would’ve been solidified if he’d resisted the urge to go back to his sister. Instead, all down the drain. He is not “hateful” like his sister. She’s just his weakness.

[@michaelanderson5301]

I did enjoy the first 3 episodes of Season 8. I did not care much for epi 4. The reveal of Jon's heritage to the Stark Sisters was so rushed and a missed opportunity. I would have loved seeing Bran hold both of his sister's hands and show another walk back in time and maybe have half an episode of Rhaegar and Lyanna scenes while the girls looked on and commented and maybe even given a play by play from their own perspectives. Almost like a reaction channel. Sounds a bit much, but I feel this could have worked beautifully.

[@seecha8970]

I saw another reactor make a very interesting comparison about Jon and Danny. They stated that Jon does good deeds because it's the right thing to do whereas Danny seems to do good deeds because she wants recognition and validity for her good deeds.

[@gintuner4371]

Exactly. Waging wanton war for her reasons is complete lunacy. Jon fights wars to protect others.

[@Lightbrite93]

she has this like messiah complex. combine that with her obsession for the throne and it's a recipe for disaster

[@LuvFearlessly]

Dany has also done good things just because they’re what’s right….

[@taneshah.1260]

My girl Missandei deserved better. 😢

[@EchanteDante]

Jon not petting Ghost is such a weird choice

[@Marfy_]

"we have your translator, surrender now or you will never be able to talk to foreigners again"

[@roystoyscomics1361]

R.I.P. Missandei. 😢

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

"She kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet". -Dan and Dave

[@slmott399]

And guys, make no mistake... that is a legit quote from the creators. The same guys who said "themes are for eighth-grade book reports." They both did a great job of hiding just how big of a hack they each were.

[@kobarsos82]

Daenerys and her army casually roaming through the sea and air. Rhaegal dragon : "I am sorry mother I am blind today, they wanted low budget for me and finish this fast, so I had to die from offscreen scorpion bolts to shock the audience cheaply. Bye."

[@daniellegales]

Robert's rebellion was not based on lies. Resentment against Aerys and his actions had already been brewing before Lyanna eloped with Rhaegar, and the rebellion started properly after Aerys unjustly executed Ned Stark's father and brother then demanded that Jon Arryn surrender Ned and Robert for a similar fate. "Robert's rebellion was built on a lie" is one of the most bizarre lines in this entire show and reveals just how little the showrunners actually understood the books they were adapting.

[@sivannatalie]

Ramsey was not Sansa’s “arch enemy.” He was her rapist.

[@Tsunami7964]

‘ShEs mA QuEen!’ - Jon Snow series 8

[@dero2430]

He's not Jon Snow anymore. He's Aegon "The Simp" Targaryen.

[@Droidd1993]

@@dero2430 queen slayer

[@dottzie33]

Apart from the dragon , Jamie and ghost which really p***** me off I’m still niggled they couldn’t go to the effort to write the conversation and reactions between the Starks and Tyrion/Sansa

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

Ghost and all the wolves were done so dirty by the dragons hogging all the CGI budget.

[@carriesmith742]

14:42 ironic that Dany said, "Take what is mine", when in actuality, it's NOT HERS! 31:58 Not kill a city of innocent people would be a good start. 40:59 she can attack the Red Keep directly and leave the rest of the city alone. They didn't do anything. 43:02 1 month, not 6, from King's Landing to Winterfell.

[@mack_taylor]

It took 1 month to get to Winterfell from Kings Landing with a large party. A couple dudes on horses could get there in less time.

[@k.v.7681]

The month to travel is a bit odd. An army can march about 20-24 miles per day (in good conditions). Winterfell is about 1600 miles away from KL. That would mean about two months and a bit marching pace. That would mean the King's party traveled at about 50 miles/day. But a good horse can only cover about 35 miles a day (they're not as enduring as people. Faster, yes, but the tire faster too), and that only sustainable with small teams, not a whole court following. Provided they have horse-outposts to change horses, they could push it a bit, but not that much. In times of war, small parties at high pace/bursts of gallop and outposts for fresh horses, let's say we get to 50 miles/day. It would still be a month for a couple dudes. The king would have needed about a month and a half.

[@mack_taylor]

@@k.v.7681 I agree. It probably would take me 6 months to complete that journey lol

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

This. One month with the whole royal procession and tents and carriages. Quicker without all that but still not to the teleporting extent we see in the last two seasons.

[@adrianpeart]

@@k.v.7681 Good grief, it's a fantasy TV show with dragons, zombies, witches that can resurrect the dead, giants & a crippled boy who can see through the eyes of animals plus time and space. It's not real life

[@gintuner4371]

@@adrianpeartyeah but you cant really justify breaking the rules and metrics of your own story with contradictions. They had to because they wanted to abruptly end the show, even though a boatload of things would have actually happened in the world during the duration of their trip back to kings landing.

[@gangsta891]

"Sansa is little fingering" wait whuuuut hahaha pauseeee

[@rahilrameez8635]

That came out wrong

[@terrygracy8345]

Gotta agree Jamie going back to Cersei just undoes so much of that character arc. Not sure if it’s good or not.

[@TheOctobersReact]

I think the moment he slept with Breanne, he just fell in his heart It wasn’t right. And I think in that moment, he just wanted to run back to Cersei out of guilt she really ruined him.

[@raistlinmcfly7535]

@@TheOctobersReact jamie's arc is still a Great arc. it's a "falling" arc, he's come a long way, but Cersei is his poison, his desease. one can redeem himself (and he did) but there are things impossible to defeat. Cersei is a good metaphore for cancer. when you think you've healed, it kicks back and wins the flight. I love Jamie, he is one of my favorite characters.

[@raistlinmcfly7535]

not all arcs must be "positive" arcs. as I said in my other comment, a "falling" arc (or "negative" arc) can still be a good arc.

[@terrygracy8345]

@@raistlinmcfly7535 totally agree. And we’ve seen Jaimie go back to his sis a few times even though now she’s totally reprehensible and he knows it. It’s just a tougher one to swallow because he did so well. He was even happy after that battle at Winterfell. Actually enjoying himself. Something we’ve rarely seen him get to do

[@marjofrance83]

The most powerful Dracarys in the entire show. Daenerys needs to honor the wish of her best friend, almost sister......

[@shootingreal5945]

Would you say that if you were one of the innocent ppl engulf in flames, would you say as you are burning to death, it's OK, she is honoring her best friend last words.

[@marjofrance83]

@@shootingreal5945 No, i say in Daenerys state of mind, lost dragons, lost missandei, lost her kind of power she had before.....losing Jon.....She can snap

[@sengarichardson1706]

If you have read the books you will have picked up on the fact that Danearys has a lot of fear, she asked her maid to sleep in her bed because of this, also, her descent into madness is already being shown in what is book 5 (2 books make up book 5), so she was going to go mad, unfortunately the show didn't give enough hints to show that. Varys said it, 'every time a Targaeryn is born the gods toss a coin, and wait to see if it lands on the side of madness or not'. Varys was aware of the madness that ran in the Targaeryn family because of all the incest. We definitely needed at least 10 episodes each for S7&8 which would have helped to lay a better storyline. The biggest issue is the prophecy, the prince that was promised, his is the song of ice and fire. That's John, Stark and Targaeryn, and they definitely let his story line down. However, I have made peace with the ending. Main characters have died from S1 onwards. Shoutout to the Hound, I loved his character all the way through. I was House Stark from the beginning. It's been so wonderful to relive this series with you guys. I have loved each episode with you, your theories reminded me of the way we discussed each episode. I waited until S5 was over before reading the books.

[@MariaPetrescu]

From King's Landing to Winterfell in the first season it was a month's ride with carriages, the entourage and the entire royal court. Realistically it would take less if someone is travelling alone (like Arya and the Hound). Also, dragons and ships travel faster. The "fast travel tokens" are because the storylines have been condensed. In the first seasons, there were many different threads to look at, but now it's just 3 locations (Winterfell, King's Landing, Dragonstone).

[@brianreid5891]

So cool that you guys are appreciating the show even though this season was clearly rushed. Everyone wouldve loved more seasons and a slower pace at the end, but I love that you guys are really seeing all perspectives when reflecting on the episodes. Great job! Cant wait for the last couple episodes and HOTD!

[@boki1693]

I agree with you. The last seasons were rushed and could of been better. But they were still entertaining.

[@MarcOfAnArtist-rg1qf]

Spoiler-ish. Controversial, but I am okay with the way that it ended. I wasn't at first especially with the long wait in between seasons and what not, but I made peace with it. I see a lot of people are still quite let down about it...I get it. We invested years on this show. But being a downer in the comment section, even right from episode one about the ending is doodoo. I kind of like to see their opinion on it as people who had the luxury to watch the show in a shorter time span.

[@Sir_Osis]

Correct. One of the biggest complaints most of had about the final season is how rushed it was.

[@morpheusjones4753]

At this point, in addition to losing 2 of her babies and her 2 MOST TRUSTED advisors AND Best friends in a short amount of time, there is no one left that will check her worst impulses. After all she has done to help preserve mankind in Westeros, she still gets no love from the people of Westeros, Arya and Sansa. There is no one left to prevent her from going mad. Gray Worm might have been able to, but after losing Missandei, he has already gone mad too.

[@black-widow33]

Even though bran knows everything, he has to let free will be, and let life play out the way it does. Amd example of messing with it is hodor...and white walkers scenes... Sansa does have reason to question dany.. targaryans murdered the starks.

[@manolososadavinci1937]

4:43 ser Davos being the first the hail gendry as the lord of storms end and being the head of the Baratheon house brings 💙💙💙💙💙because ser Davos house “Seaworth” family words are “Sworn to Baratheon!!”

[@Nemophilist850]

Daenerys has been somewhat mentally unhinged since season one.

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

Truth. Starting with dabbling with blood magic to try to keep Drogo alive and also using blood magic ritual to hatch the dragons.

[@rahilrameez8635]

Or way before that when Drogo promises to Rape westerosi women and Danny looks at him like Yes Daddy lol.

[@TheAbominableDrFaustus]

🏹🐉 Everyone: “Damn, why didn’t we think of that?”

[@dcummings336]

Let's talk about Jaime. Remember that Cersei is pregnant🤔😂

[@davidp9575]

A lot of lost story opportunities because the producers weren’t comfortable with fantasy and magic without source material. Bran’s warg/raven abilities could’ve been used for more, Arya could’ve done faceless stuff, Jon’s resurrection could’ve been explored more.

[@gdogdynasty6646]

That and they stopped caring. They had a big Star Wars contract in the works and had already moved on from the show. They rushed things and stopped caring about story. End the end that cost them as from how bad things ended with GOT they ended up losing that Star Wars contract. Even rushed I liked everything up through 8x3, the rest could have been written by any other writers that cared about the show and fans and turned out better in my opinion.

[@rickycox6111]

Still the greatest show ever.

[@raistlinmcfly7535]

word.

[@theveryworstluck1894]

I just noticed that Jon rides the dragon named for his father: Rhaegar ---> Rhaegal

[@keef5]

Good catch with Pod drinking

[@dmille1959]

Missandei to Daenerys "Burn them all."

[@slipknot95maggot]

It's a small thing, but at the very end when Dany walks away as she turns around she like - ... makes a really wide turn and almost stumbles, like not falls but like swerves like she's not moving straight, it's almost like a drunken thing, she makes this really wide swervy turn before she "rights" her direction and walks straight and dang that really sells it so hard for me. That's such a great subtle thing. So livid she's almost drunk with anger and it affects how she turns because her mind is far from proper mobility. Really nice little addition there. I dunno if that was her call or a director or w/e, but, 10/10. Palpable. She doesn't turn away she almost .... falls back into reality from her mental state

[@lolalilolily]

About Bronn... go back in time when Tyrion sent Shae away. Who escorted her to the ship and came to visit Tyrion in his cell, all dressed up in new gear, lord of a castle? 👀 He's never been his friend.

[@SapperSapperSapper]

My favorite part of this reaction was watching them realize that Jaime's redemption arc was compeltely wasted in this episode. One of my many many many many grievances with the last season.

[@SmokinDroFrayser]

Vikings Vikings Vikings Vikings please

[@jcnom6606]

Tormund you climbed a dragon

[@loganpeters8350]

After you watch this should you should watch Vikings

[@TenTonNuke]

This show somehow made dragons incredibly disappointing. Kings were trembling at their mere mention when they were babies. But apparently all it takes to kill them is a couple of big arrows.

[@katemoon1594]

It was so sad to see your reaction to that moment with Jaime leaving. :( Really didn't feel right after everything either. I really loved all of your afterthoughts about this episode! Definitely vibing with all of your thoughts about the Battle at Winterfell and Cersei. I wish they would have kept adapting more of the book material! But alas... I can't believe you're almost done! 😭 Don't worry, tho.... _The North Remembers_ 🐺 🏰❄️

[@Marfy_]

"i was at a UN convention last week, suddenly the chairman asked me if i knew who the president of china was. i thought it was a joke so i said no, but then she turned to everyone and asked who the president of china was and nobody knew! then went to me and said i think you should be the president of china, even tho we are not entirely sure there isnt already a president of china"

[@CollideFan1]

As you see, this season is trash and you see why a lot of fans hate it. Character arcs totally destroyed. Logic thrown out the window. Dany is flying to Dragonstone and she can't see a huge fleet of ships below? GTFO here with that. Fan favorite character wearing plot armor, speaking mainly of the last episode. Never cared much for Sansa and this episode really made me loath her. She's an oath breaker by revealing Jon's secret. Her dad would be so disappointed in her. Emilia did a good job with her facial acting with Missandea's death. The look of concern, disbelief, anger, full on rage. You see the slight twitches on her face as her feelings are changing.

[@boki1693]

Your reaction to these last seasons is mine exactly. Of course they were rushed and the showrunners did us dirty. Of course there should have been more seasons. And of course they were not the best seasons. But did I find them entertaining? And thats a big yes. I have a theory that seems to be baring out. The peeps who really hate the last seasons are the peeps who read the books. And generally speaking that boils down to the peeps who read the books know much more of the lore and because they are book readers, connecting all the threads in logical ways is more important to them than all the high drama and visual allure of the tv show. I read the books but so long ago, I know the show way better than the books. It's much more important to me to be entertained than worrying about logical things not making sense in a fantasy setting. But thats just me. Examples, it makes no dam sense that Dani didn't see Euron's boats while she was in the air SCOUTING with the dragons. That was dumb and stupid but I got over it 5 seconds after it happened. It made no dam sense at all for Arya to sleep with Gendry. It looked very contrived and forced and very awkward. But I didn't let it ruin the episode or show for me.

[@DC3328]

They went through the 5 stages of grief at the end of this one

[@chaosbolt66]

The Starbucks cup was left on the table 😂😂😂

[@TheOctobersReact]

we totally missed that!

[@betwixttales]

@@TheOctobersReact They went back and edit it out after netizens made them aware of the screw up. 😆

[@jrafel1707]

About the burning Randall Tarly and Dickon. IMO she had no choice. If you are fighting a battle and start filling dungeons with people, and the more people you give the choice to, the more that will take that choice and the more dungeons you fill - then you have to start leaving people behind to care for those prisoners. Especially if you are the attacking force. Even after you've won, They still may rebel and cause problems.

[@CrazeeAdam]

Most have considered this the worst or 2nd worst episode in the show. I don't think it's horrible. But also it's pretty convoluted and some characters do some very stupid things. Still there are good things in it.

[@sengarichardson1706]

Have you considered reacting to the Last Kingdom?

[@johnwolfe7596]

@20:00 Tyrion asks, "what's she like down there?" referring to Brienne's private parts. This is where you can really see the childishness of the writers. They can sometimes craft amazing, wonderful scenes such as the desolation of the Great Sept of Baelor, but then they have the most intelligent character in the show acting like a 13-year-old.

[@HuntingViolets]

Lann the Clever is the prequel spinoff I'd like to see.

[@morpheusjones4753]

@54:47....Imagining Daenerys trying on an iron thong...🤣

[@CranDolFans]

I love your reaction videos, and I love that you guys pay attention to the details. Everybody has their own opinion on the show and on particular characters. Where my opinion greatly differs from yours is the Dany scenario. I don't see her any different from Cersei as far as being power hungry. Although I know Dany's character was necessary to the story, I noticed very early on that once she got the taste of power, it would go to her head. She did do a lot of good deeds along the way, but did she do them for the right reasons, or did she do it to build her army?Something to ponder. I didn't like the fact that she would have people burnt to a crisp because they wouldn't "bend the knee" and wouldn't agree to fight Jon's war against the dead unless he "bent the knee" all because she thinks that she is the "rightful heir" to the throne. So thinking that way from her perspective, why didn't she immediately "bend the knee" to Jon when she found out that he was in fact the true heir to the throne (even though he wasn't interested)? Instead, she begged him to keep it hidden. It was sad to see Missandei beheaded, but don't think for a second that Dany wouldn't have killed her or anybody else for that matter if they got between her and the throne. I find it kind of hypocritical that you frowned upon Sansa grinning as the dogs mauled her torturer, but made no mention to Dany grinning as she had her dragons burn people.

[@doorattachment6926]

I cried so much when Theon died he really changed throughout the series. But you guys are in for one hell of a surprise

[@crazy_indian3921]

Can't wait for you guys to catch up to HoTD🤌🏽 S2E1 dropped last night

[@AstroAvenger]

@@NikoStark1 For a first episode it was pretty good, not sure what more people wanted from it.

[@jammydodger5838]

@@NikoStark1it was good except for blood and cheese, think that could of been executed a bit better

[@HuntingViolets]

Arya sounds like a Lannister -- just us.

[@bigw725]

shit i’m listening to this as i do something else and i locked in as soon as you said kill from the grave lmao i haven’t thought of that in years

[@black-widow33]

It's 1 month from Kings Landing to winterfell

[@iamgriego]

do you remember when Arya and Nymeria reunited, she said to her dire wolf that that's not her, it's a call back to herself.

[@kemikemi]

LOL! @ "AEGON SNOW" You got me with that one Mrs. October.

[@hypocritex]

Hoping she wasn't serious.. The annulment already made clear.. he is in fact a Targaryan .

[@leeyaferguson9019]

I liked the ending. 😊😊

[@iscariot2180]

Arya and Sansa were telling Jon don't go South with Daynerys. Their point was that them are his family and he should stay in Winterfell and protect his family. So Jon decided to tell truth that his actual family by blood is Daynerys not two of them.

[@Gekokujo76]

I could go off for hours/pages about how and where the show lost its way and failed due to rushing the narrative, but this episode showcases why brilliantly in many examples. Cersei had few redeeming qualities besides (her cheekbones) that she loved her children. We SLOWLY see Cersei lose her children one by one and become more desperate. Apply that to Dany who has lost 2 of her children, seen her rule threatened by Jon, lost the "loyalty" of her advisors, seen Mssandei taken hostage, and knows that the small folk dont love her....she HAS snapped. The show rushes and doesnt REALLY give enough spotlight to these factors and how they affect her along the way. Arya's training is a similar thing...a bit more time and context could show a better through-line between her ninja training and her killing the Night King that would have made that dynamic make a lot more sense. They rushed these seasons and it hurt a lot.

[@SerbAtheist]

Don't buy it. It's people being willfully obtuse because they didn't like the message of the story.

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

​@SerbAtheist listen. It's completely okay that you like it. But people can give very solid examples of where and how the show started to slip. You don't have to "buy it", but let's not put our head all the way in the sand. A good writer can get their audience to accept almost any storyline, IF told properly. The quality of the writing matters, as does continuity.

[@kennethsmith8788]

Yeah, the were too many moments watching the last couple seasons where my immersion in the show got shattered completely because I couldn’t wrap my head around the massive changes occurring without the careful and steady buildup we’re used to. And then there’s the Night King and the undead army, who were built up for seven seasons only to be put down in a single episode. That really took the wind out of my sails there.

[@SerbAtheist]

@@lynnjohanssen6552 Solid examples? Great, tell me some of these! I've heard them all and am less than impressed with them. Second of all, if a work of art brings with it a completely new set of rules it will be very difficult at least at first to get the majority of people on board with this way of looking at things. For example, for a long time impressionist paintings were derided and mocked as children's paintings and I don't even have to tell you what the status of rock music was. Most people watching GOT quite simply wanted an ending which glorified and affirmed all the most standard power-fantasy tropes, not to mention heaps of self-righteous violence inflicted on the 'bad guys.' They did not want a thematically rich, somber and pacifist tour de force about the horrors of war and power-hungry messianic figures. The very fact people spout things like 'Cersei deserved a more violent death' or 'Jon's heritage should have mattered' shows just how little people understood the show on a fundamental level. No amount of 'continuity' would have helped here. At some point what the show was and what the audiences wanted it to be would have to inevitably diverge.

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

@SerbAtheist the complete abandonment of a realistic timeline. The writing for dialogue decreased substantially with characters often speaking in partial sentences. The rushing of Dany's descent into madness. Lazy writing is the biggest sin, here. D&D's own words show how lazy they got. HBO and GRRM pleaded for more episodes to tell the story but Dave and Dan wanted to move on to Star Wars and condensed the last two seasons down. They tried to accommodate for the horrible writing with huge battle productions, but even that couldn't hide the bad writing. Even the actors were unhappy with the end and in, perhaps one of the few things a majority of people have been united on in the last decade, MOST people agree the last two seasons were subpar. The end was so, controversial and universally panned, in fact, that D&D were fired from the Star Wars project! No one wanted to work with them for years after that! Also, way too much happened off screen. Stannis' death, Arya's fight with the waif, How the magic of the faces actually works. How Arya suddenly became a super ninja, when in the last fight we actually saw with the waif, Arya was still getting her ass handed to her. Jon telling Arya and Sansa about his parentage, Sansa telling Tyrion about Jon, etc etc etc. Lazy. Writing. If you want to accept a half assed end product and call it art, that's up to you. But the rest of us don't have to be gaslit into excepting the dumpster fire as art.

[@kmvoss]

I remember how I felt when the iron fleet suddenly 360 no-scoped the only air reconnaissance in the world and it felt like a fever dream! It made absolutely no sense and every time I see it I am reminded of how dumb some of these last episodes are. In any case, great reaction.

[@fernandof.2225]

The mechanisms under Winterfell are malfunctioning. You 2 missed that. After the battle nothing seems to be working.

[@coldfire22]

The worst thing in this series is the treatment of Ghost. I just can't forgive that. I don't think that Jon, in the novels, would never separate from Ghost like that. It just felt so wrong.

[@HuntingViolets]

The Starks actually have uncle-niece marriages in their history (at least two, but only half-uncle, which might not be much different with shared DNA than a first cousin -- I'm not sure, but they wouldn't know either).

[@manojwarkad4856]

"Sansa is little finguring".. 😂

[@Density13]

Love yall's reactions, way out of topic but I've heard Mr. October speak about Supernatural, any chance yall do a reaction series to the show? I know it's VERY long and idk if Mrs. October has seen it but that would be cool if she hasn't. I looked at your Patreon and didn't see it so I wanted to ask in case I somehow missed it there.

[@Necrothep]

2:04 We call him Lord Friendzone because we watched the Honest trailer of game of throne and Pitch meeting.

[@davidwatson7196]

Great reaction guys!!! I just have one correction, in your observation of "time jump". The writers/producers of Game of Thrones, already established "time jumps", as early as season 1 episode 1("Winter is Coming"). The time it takes to get to the north from kings landing, and vice versa, is 1 MONTH. If you remember, in season 1 episode 1, King Robert, Cersei, Jaimie and all of his army arrived in Winterfell in the same episode. Remember? Cersei said to King Robert, "WE'VE BEEN RIDING A MONTH MY LOVE." 1) Cersei and Jaime were overseeing Jon Arryn's body in the Throne room in Kings landing. 2) 15 minutes later into the episode, they all arrive in winterfell. With respect. NO ONE COMPLAINED THEN, IN 2011. No one complained until 2016, AFTER Benioff & Weiss announced, that season 8 would be the last season. In season 6 episode 10, when Varys was in Dorne forging a pact with the Dornish and the Reach. And, at the closing scene, Varys is seen on the ship with Daenerys sailing from Mereen back to Westeros. People began to complain about "Time Jumping". The main reason why the fans weren't complaining in season 1. But, were complaining in season 6, 7 & 8 about time jumping, is simply because the show is so good that they just don't want it to end. Unfortunately, you guys seem to not want it to end, as well. Again. Time jumping in this series has already been established, as early as season 1 episode 1. Just go back to season 1 episode 1 and see it for yourself.

[@jaybird8192]

I don't understand why you don't get why Jon had to tell Sansa and Arya! Remember Jon was raised by the Honorable Ned Stark, who lost his life for being too honorable! Jon is honorable just like the one who raised him! Jon's earlier quote: "Words become meaningless with constant lies!" Something like that!

[@Tsunami7964]

Even the honourable Ned Stark kept Jon’s identity a secret for all those years. I’m sure Jon could have done it too.

[@jaybird8192]

@@Tsunami7964 The only reason Ned kept the secret was because Robert would have murdered Jon! No reason to hide his Identity now! He is the true heir, even if he doesn't want the throne! It's like saying Renly was heir before Stannis when Robert Baratheon died as king.

[@alexflorea4879]

Great one guys 👍 And on another note I can't wait to see your reaction to The Green Mile my absolute favorite movie ❤

[@edmunddantes7097]

Read the book. It's pretty damn good.

[@alexflorea4879]

@@edmunddantes7097 I have read the book I've even read The Count of Monte Cristo ☺

[@edmunddantes7097]

@@alexflorea4879 Never heard of it....

[@Nichole-1989]

Sansa kept her mouth shut for all of 20 minutes. 🙄 Welcome to the "Jamie Lannister ain't sh*t" club. I felt this way from episode 1, and my feelings have not wavered.

[@matsaidso]

omgg could y’all eventually watch the boys? it’s a great show honestly

[@killerclair]

It really bothers me how they did Dany so dirty in this show. There is so much unrealistic scripted pressure on Dany to "make the right choice" - when she has been making the right choices for years and years and the people love her for it. Male rulers for 1000's of years sacking and murdering and rolling through cities and no one bats an eye. Someone like Cersei who blew up the Great Sept with wild fire, killing thousands of innocent civilians, gets to keep ruling and people are like "whatev she did it for her family". The writers here turn Dany into an uncharacteristic version of herself with zero development. She deserved better. / End rant. Also though. I have LOVED being on this journey with you guys. I laughed with you, I cried with you, and now I get to cringe with you. Mr. October: "Bro how did she not see this fleet coming, she's in the air with dragons, she can see for miles!" 3/3 arrows hit that flying dragon, without it somehow not noticing all those ships GG.

[@jeffreymorgan2269]

Since Robert’s rebellion was based on lies Dani doesn’t deserve to be on the throne… Jon does!🤷🏽

[@txheadshots]

Dany has never been a nice person... she's had one goal: To rule by any means necessary. Yes, she freed slaves, but she's always demanded absolute loyalty. Only her advisors - Jorah, Missandei, Dario, Tyrion, and Varys - have coached her to curb her destructive impulses. Sansa and Arya see it... and Varys and Tyrion are starting to

[@pauldourlet]

Cersei has made a horrible mistake by killing Missandei. Her last words were Dracarys (burn everything down). What will Dani do now?

[@amazingronaldo9656]

I was so upset that they killed Jaime's character arc in this episode! Assassinated it! He had this redemption arc going on and I thought his going to Winterfell was him nearing that final redemption, if not achieving it. And then they tossed the whole thing away and made him leave to go back to Cersei. I was so upset when I saw that part. They just tossed that whole 7 seasons of character arc in the bin. For love? He left for honor above love and throws that away again? And how did they just forget about the Iron Fleet and just sail and fly without scouting. She's on Dragons and gets ambushed by ships behind an island? Every shot hit one dragon and then couldn't hit Drogon after? Just was so disappointing.

[@bigw725]

now yall get all the “sort of forgot” comments im sure yall have gotten throughout this whole show

[@bigw725]

3:16 “i bet they’re all just gonna burn from now on”