Rings of Power WILL NOT be Fixed - Looking at the Season 2 Trailer

Rings of Power Season 2 has backed itself into a narrative corner... how will they extricate themselves from insta-Mordor, dirty little Harfoots, and elves who can't seem to figure out who Halbrand is!
Michael and Jonathan take a look at the FIRST Season 2 trailer for The Rings of Power, particularly looking at Sauron, Eagles, and--staying true to their old tricks--a new insta-tower right at the end!
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[@TheOneRingcom]

Forgot to talk about the eagles on the Meneltarma! They lived there, but they didn't interact with any of the characters we see in The Rings of Power (in fact, they would have abandoned Númenor at this point). And, it looks like they didn't try to get closer to Tolkien's writings by even the smallest margin. They wrote themselves into a corner in Season 1, and now they're backing themselves into it even more.

[@Adamadam-zc6pe]

Thank you. Was just about to yell at you about this but you caught it lol

[@sarahgould5435]

They didn't write themselves into a corner. They looked at every iconic element of PJ's films and said "We want to write the origin for that!" Lack of Silmarillion rights is just an excuse, not an explanation. With everything they *did* have the rights to use that got chucked immediately out the window in favor of making their own thing, I see precious little evidence that they would have honored the source material, even if they had the rights. That isn't writing yourself into a corner, that's jumping out of a perfectly good plane, landing on the ground, and then choking and wheezing out to the stewardess, "I think I'd like that parachute now. Just set the pack over here, next to my hand, where people can see it and might believe I actually tried to use it." "Writing themselves into a corner" assumes that they wanted to work their way back around to the lore as Tolkien wrote it. If they had ever the slightest intention of doing that, they would never have made up so many contradictory and asinine origin stories.

[@xXSjapXx]

Tolkien's separate universe??

[@christianefiorito3204]

Who made this wig. Couldn't they afford a better more e pensive one. This looks like Halloween.

[@morghoulmutilera2996]

there 's NO WAY any of the Manwë Great Eagles ,would ever let ,Ar FarAmazon ride them. This show can't even touch, the dust over Proffessor's notes

[@frankvandorp9732]

"But they were all deceived. For another wig was made...." Best comment I saw under the official trailer.

[@bjornh4664]

Wigs of Power?

[@di3486]

“One wig to rule them all” - another gold comment😂

[@caradhwen7749]

I’m still bothered that Celebrimbor looks like Mrs. Doubtfire.

[@XiaoFury]

😆😄

[@Ken-fh4jc]

I’m bother he didn’t know what an alloy was before Sauron told him. The guy is a fucking master smith I think he knows to mix metal.

[@VaderPopsVicodin10]

And walkin about in a FCKNG NIGHTGOWN.. 😂

[@di3486]

Lmaooo

[@johnord684]

Thats not Celebrimnor

[@heatherblack7593]

Why does Annatar actually look like a Tolkien elf when every other elf in the story looks like some guy in 2024?

[@timeweston]

I was struck by that too. Was Sauron a trend setter for the elves? A fashionista? Are they going full Hugo Boss, giving the evil people the coolest look? Are the elves in Jackson's LOTR trilogy simply cosplaying?

[@DavidTMSN]

Because the people running the show don't care about the intellectual property and want the "elves" to reflect the modern audience. Pandering. The agenda always takes precedent over everything else.

[@istari0]

@@timeweston You nailed it. After the War of the Elves and Sauron all the surviving Elves were like "That Sauron's not a nice guy but man he looked good being bad." They're still talking about it in Tol Eressëa.

[@Turambar512]

Did you not see most elves had long hair in the trailer?

[@jake_gon_jinn]

Here's a simple answer: Cause he's a White Straight Evil Male Villain and the DEI rules doesn't apply to him!😂

[@federicaesu8580]

The Eagles lived on the Meneltarma as a sign of the friendship of the Valar with the Numenoreans. They went away or maybe Manwë called them back to Valinor when the Numenoreans became envious of the Elbes and abandoned the the ancient traditions of the Edain

[@fantasywind3923]

".. the birds of Númenor were beyond count, from the kirinki that were no bigger than wrens ... to the great eagles that were held sacred to Manwë, and never afflicted, until the days of evil and the hatred of the Valar began. For two thousand years, from the days of Elros Tar-Minyatur until the time of Tar-Ancalimon..., there was an eyrie in the summit of the tower of the King's palace in Armenelos; and there one pair ever dwelt and lived on the bounty of the King. Unfinished Tales, Part 2, Ch 1, Description of the Island of Númenor Towards the North Cape [of Forostar] the land rose to rocky heights, and there great Sorontil rose sheer from the sea in tremendous cliffs. Here was the abode of many eagles.... Unfinished Tales, Part 2, Ch 1, A Description of the Island of Númenor If anyone approached the summit [of Meneltarma], at once three eagles would appear and alight upon three rocks near to the western edge; but at the times of the Three Prayers they did not descend, remaining in the sky and hovering above the people. They were called the Witnesses of Manwë, and they were believed to be sent by him from Aman to keep watch upon the Holy Mountain and upon all the land. Unfinished Tales, Part 2, Ch 1, Description of the Island of Númenor Then the Eagles of the Lords of the West came up out of the dayfall, and they were arrayed as for battle, advancing in a line the end of which diminished beyond sight; and as they came their wings spread ever wider, grasping the sky. But the West burned red behind them, and they glowed beneath, as though they were lit with a flame of great anger, so that all Númenor was illumined as with a smouldering fire.... The Silmarillion, Akallabêth And of course the fact that these Great Eagles are now 'approving' basically of Ar-Pharazon...the greatest tyrant of Numenor by gracing him with their presence...it shows how much of a joke this tv show is!! What mockery of source material and Tolkien themes!!!!!!!!!

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

Elrond and Thranduil to Amazon's elves: Doth mother know you weareth her drapes?

[@DavidTMSN]

Anyone who even remotely associates Amazon's adaption with Tolkien's intellectual property is going straight to Hades.

[@lucasholmberg5708]

Lucky for us Hades existance is as probable as middle earth being real lol

[@thisismyname3928]

@@lucasholmberg5708

[@legionofthedamned157]

The boiler room of Hades

[@sectureverothoughtcriminal7734]

You think they have ever picked up a copy of any Tolkien book, much less bothered to read one? This is a "series" made by morons who watched the animations, movies...maybe read The Cliff Notes.

[@datacorz]

"We have Sauron at home."

[@thisismyname3928]

🤛

[@batboy555]

Temu version

[@JamesRaetz]

Even a baby eagle would NEVER bear Arfucking-Pharazôn. Ever. They're not taxis. And she's riding a horse again. But was that a harfoot on fire? One can only hope. Thanks guys.

[@Zenocrate]

I shall implement the same policy I followed the last time around: ignore all the promotional material and watch nothing of the show but devote my precious time to watching and listening to fellow-Tolkien nerds disembowel it.

[@dinmavric5504]

not sure tolkien would approve of that, taking time out of your day to hate on something. bit odd choice

[@dhLord64]

@@dinmavric5504 the people hating this should take a page from Tolkiens book and move on with their lives rather than hate watching it and putting down anyone who likes it. When Tolkien disliked Dune he didn't waste time trashing it. Christopher hated the movies but moved on with his life and never mentioned them again.

[@LeeLee-nc7xj]

This is the way.

[@Paisa231]

​@@dinmavric5504I don't see where he says to hate it.. If he has my view point, this is pure cringe entertainment that rop gives us xD im looking forward to Disparus dismantling of this next season ;)

[@MatejZizanovic]

Thats todays crowd man, no wonder every show gets cancelled after 1 season. Todays kids just have too much fun shitting on things...

[@Zenocrate]

Reducing the Eagles of Manwë to carrier pigeons seems like something the show would do.

[@johnkowalsky1988]

Immersive fast travel mod

[@Marcelocostache]

Are they not Maiar spirits ?

[@morghoulmutilera2996]

the existance of this ..show...is the proof that Morgoth has returned

[@lotuschamp7796]

I did not see a single episode of season 1, the reviews were traumatic enough for me..

[@TheWatcherxx99]

Same. Short haired elves was a deal breaker for me

[@redshed2020]

I watched it. I wanted to form my own opinions on it. Which didn't differ much from those who disemboweled it.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

Watched episode one. That’s it. I gave it a shot and as I watched “Galadriel” one a boat sailing to the Undying Land, I told myself if she jumps off the boat for her revenge boner, I’m done. That’s been her one dimension the whole time and seeing her brother’s dagger be taken from her I just knew. They’d have to contrive the entire story from that one stupid point then on. And they did and it never stopped.

[@flvflv4712]

I can't believe there are channels (and supposed Tolkien's fans) that actually see this piece of crap as something to look foward to. WE know what Tolkien would say...and anyone who is blessed by some kind of critical thinking cannot pretend this is a good rendition. I'm afraid a see a lot of youngsters unable to understand the depth of Tolkien's work.

[@ricardotorres5524]

What do you think Tolkien would say about PJ movies?

[@amandag5072]

@@ricardotorres5524 He probably would not have liked those either.

[@zoebaggins90]

@@ricardotorres5524 We know what his son said.

[@TheSavvycaptain]

You forget the true power that Amazon holds, money. Many of those channels are just shills that bent their knee to the dark lord Bezos to peddle his "adaptations" for access to interviews and free trips to the UK.

[@nalublackwater9729]

@@ricardotorres5524 Why bring PJ movies into the fray if no one mentioned them? Too scared of comparisons? Many Tolkien fans didn't like the movies either. Any of them, or the cartoons that came in the 70's and 80's, or the radio dramas, or any artistic depiction in drawings or videogames, or any media that is not the written book, but at least those works held some respect towards what Tolkien wrote, something this nonsensical slop cannot say.

[@frankvandorp9732]

22:05 Based on the surrounding of that tower, my first guess it is Orthanc. It would make zero sense at all for Orthanc to be created this way, so it's something this show could absolutely do.

[@metoo7557]

When a junkie is addicted, the dealer can cut their product as much as they like and the junkie will still come crawling back. Why would they fix it?

[@redshed2020]

I would think that losing over 60% of their audience from episode 1 to the finale would be motivation for most companies to course correct. Amazon clearly does not care.

[@metoo7557]

@@redshed2020 That's because it's not about what the peasants think its about. it's about control. They will not produce western culture as you remember it anymore. that's over. the only thing they'll produce is their own. which is woke culture. and they have been doing it to existing western culture for nearly 10 years. Everyone by now should have LONG realized they've done it to everything. LOTR, Terminator, Star Trek, Star Wars, Indiana Jones.. Marvel, DC, Ghostbusters, anything that is/was distinctly western culture has been gutted with the values of western culture and replaced with woke cult with a plastic cover of some existing pre-western culture. I am amazed people don't understand this yet.. it's been nearly 10 years. They don't care about what you want. and we're reaching the point soon where no one is going to remember actual western culture in media anymore. they'll have adapted to woke culture and know no different.

[@JCO2002]

I watched a total of 35 minutes of season 1, in two tries - even though I'd downloaded the first few episodes as torrents - and then gave up in disgust. No intention of watching any of season 2, but I'll certainly enjoy folks like you tearing it to shreds. My sympathies, though, for having to watch it instead.

[@paulemge9156]

I had it on in the background

[@di3486]

I watched reviews of the final episode that made me LOL so hard😂

[@ricardotorres5524]

Your loss!

[@amberlee6878]

Same. Season 1 was so boring

[@amandag5072]

I stopped watching episode one after 5 minutes, I was fuming and walked out the room. My son made me come back and watch the rest of that episode to "at least give it a chance". Funnily enough he never watched any more either!

[@lapis166]

Galadriel was literally married when he talked to her

[@lauraitalia1334]

Everyone hates the proto Hobbits

[@barneymiller4088]

First, I love the idea of a telling of the creation of the Rings and the One Ring. Lord of the Rings begs us to hear this tale. So the setup is awesome. All the problems start right after that. The made so many mistakes, story protagonists, world building, casting, … . For me the first problem was Galadriel as the main protagonist, she is reset to basically a male masculine character, even though she was a massive magical feminine beautiful character in Lord of the Rings.

[@redshed2020]

And they just made her so unlikeable. You've gone far astray when the ultimate evil Sauron is more likeable than Galadriel.

[@joebobhenrybob2000]

They made a HUGE mistake taking on the main plot line leading to events in Lord of the Rings. And it's hard to write immortal beings as your main characters. Especially if you're a not-that-bright "writer" who hates the Ethos of Tolkien's works. Of all the things in the Appendix they could have gone with! They should have covered Aragorn''s time leading the army and navy of Gondor during Denethor's youth. Fighting the Corsairs of Umbar! Everyone loves pirates. How do you #%^#% that up? PS - it was awesome when Galadriel yelled "NOW THIS IS PODRACING!!!" and then tried spinning.

[@djokealtena2538]

Guyladriel: He's been among us all along... Yeah no shit you brought him and kept your mouth shut when you KNEW who he was and forged the Elven Rings anyway...

[@TheStacanova]

1. Why is Sauron the only character who looks like an actual Elf? At least the hair looks like an Elf and not that dumb “Elvish Presley” or Tight Fade, hair style the other Elves have. 2. There’s another actor they hired named Gavi Singh Chera, that is supposed to be playing an “original” version of Sauron, they could have a 3rd actor playing his Annatar form, which would make it more believable he’s not recognized, so it may not be Chuck Vickers alone playing Sauron/Annatar/Halbrand/Etc. 3. They only have 5 seasons, they don’t have time to show everything! That’s sarcasm, btw.

[@jasonracey9600]

Annatar looks like he's about to bust out a guitar and lay down some tasty riffs. \m/

[@zoebaggins90]

Lol, yeah, he would have an amazing metal band. 🤣

[@theyodax7926]

What gets me is that there are people like you guys who know the lore so much and yet the studios will not seek any advice on the script.. it's just mind-boggling considering the money they are spending.Good Video. thanks

[@Paisa231]

They fired Tom Shippey, a JRR Tolkien Scholar! During the post production of season 1! He is known to be the #1 lore expert in the world. And instead hired an unknown self entitled activist, as lore expert....

[@zoebaggins90]

They don't want to present the lore accurately. They want to ruin a White man's work because they're marxist activists.

[@cbrettb]

Nothing can be done to save this Rings of Prime fan fiction. It has been FUBAR since the beginning. Thanks for your continued championing of JRRTolkien’s legacy. Btw the Eagles of Manwe would circle the Meneltarma during the times that the King or Queen of Numenor would ascend to the summit to offer praise to Eru while the populous followed in silence.

[@TheOneRingcom]

But there was no interaction with the Numenoreans other than that, right? No saving people or bringing messages…

[@cbrettb]

@@TheOneRingcom the only interaction were the clouds shaped as of giant eagles with outspread pinions coming from the uttermost west as a warning to Númenor during Sauron’s reign there prior to the armada’s departure.

[@Dcuniverse60]

​@@TheOneRingcomwe want akallabeth on the big screen no this is fault of Jeff beos

[@Enerdhil]

​@@TheOneRingcom It is impossible to know for sure whether or not the Great Eagles communicated directly with the Numenorians, but if it happened it would have been them communicating with the Faithful and warning them of the evil that was spreading through the country. Other than warnings, I can think of no other reason for the Eagles to communicate with Men. Certainly nothing is recorded in any of the Annuls.

[@drewboogie2849]

“There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.” George W. Bush

[@timeweston]

Anyone else wondering when Theo is going to pull the hair back from his face to reveal 'pointy ears'? Oh my GOD...He's Arondir's son!!!! ..the cringe writes itself

[@markgregorygacosta531]

Here's my wishlist for Peter Jackson and his future plans for the LOTR movies: 1. Make a live action movie about the battles that took place in Mirkwood and Dale during the war of the rings. It would be great to see Thranduil lead his elves into battle and Galadriel with her husband destroy Dol Guldur with their magic. 2. Make a movie about the blue wizards 3. Probably finally see Tom Bombadil in live action with his own short film or whatever

[@DavidTMSN]

There're not going to do that, that'd take common sense. Creatively bankrupt.

[@michaeldpa1333]

The ONLY joy I found in this deplorable series was the comment sections. What a waste of money. Amazon cant even give thier Warehouse workers a decent raise but tries to salvage this disaster series for 5 year olds.

[@chrisderhodes7629]

How is it a waste of money when there was huge viewership?

[@kimberlyoldschool]

The description alone that is quoted at 3:01 is extremely and laughably Not Tolkein. The entire concept of a vulnerable set of people relies on modern-day social-worker speak, not anything that would have applied to a feudal/farming system where even royalty like King Theoden could be forcibly corrupted. If Sauron is pure evil, EVERYONE is vulnerable. That’s the point.

[@cynfaelalek-walker7003]

3:24 this makes it look like Sauron is the main character lmao

[@Marcelocostache]

He is The Lord of the Rings without Him there are no Rings of Power.

[@redshed2020]

I mean, they basically made him the most likeable character.

[@tarzan8575]

A pair of Eagles live in the Kings house until the Numenorians turn against the Valar. From The Tolkien Gateway. "In the Second Age, a pair of Eagles had an eyrie in the King's House in Armenelos, the capital of Númenor, until the reign of Tar-Ancalimon, when the Kings of Númenor became hostile to the Valar. The Númenóreans believed that three eagles, the Witnesses of Manwë, were sent by Manwë to guard the summit of Meneltarma; these appeared whenever one approached the hallow and stayed in the sky during the Three Prayers. Many eagles lived upon the hills around Sorontil in the north of the island."

[@user-pg1jq3xr3h]

They lived in Numenor, but nowhere is there any mention that the eagles worked part-time as taxi drivers

[@mannyparganaos5889]

u make our point, the eagles wasnt there for drive ar pharazon around...u just said it "until the reign of Tar-Ancalimon"

[@Enerdhil]

Those eagles were most likely normal eagles, not the Great Eagles of Manwë.

[@hummakavula3750]

Best disguise since Lois and Clark

[@jeansalomon8225]

One wig to rule them all

[@nihilistajustinianvs6168]

Do you remember that scene when Joffrey Lannister destroys the books that Tyrion gave him, with the sword that Tywin gave him in season 4 of Game of Thrones? Yep, that's exactly what Amazon is doing. Poor dialogue in a trailer that should capture attention, and I repeat, many say it looks "spectacular", but it costs more than 50 million dollars per episode, the visual effects must be AT LEAST attractive, and yet it has horrible CGI with Drugged wargs who attack Gandalf Meteorite... At least Annatar could have been given a better wig, glasses, a fake nose and mustache to make him more "false."

[@timeweston]

Lipstick on a pig

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

One of the most important aspects of storytelling is consequences and tension. There was none built in the first season. Nobody was hurt that impacts the story in a meaningful way, no questions were left and no risks were taken. Guyladrial survived a volcano, a sea monster, and entire ocean, and I’m supposed to be concerned of the story next season or the characters? Sauron didn’t lose anything because he was just out galavanting around. He had no plans for anything and things just kind of happened. What ever were his goals? What was anyone’s motivations? The only one with solid motivations was Guyladrial on a revenge quest that she didn’t even complete after stirring up crap in three different regions of the world.

[@Deathblade]

I’ve been waiting for this video. Thanks guys!

[@Tarorc79]

Sauron will be like : It is I.. le-clerk !

[@abdullwahab_q8526]

I really love your channel sir ❤ love from Kuwait🇰🇼

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

Don’t forget they created the three elvish rings on a Tuesday afternoon 😂😂😂😂

[@djokealtena2538]

And with Sauron's influence...whilst they were created last to avoid Sauron having its influence over them...

[@haroldb1856]

For the elves, they were the greatest of rings, yet a sign of their doom. For Sauron, it was Tuesday.

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

@@haroldb1856 No kidding, it took more time to smoke a brisket than it did to forge those 3 rings.

[@abovebeyondkct6589]

This show legit makes Robyn Hood look like genuine Shakespeare.

[@chrism2964]

I said it when season 1 came out, but the problem with this show isn't that its just a bad show, its a bad concept, which makes it a bad show. The reason being that if you are going to make a show based a fiction book it really helps if you actually have the rights to that book. The fact that they are even trying to make a show based on part of the Silmarillion while not having the rights to it is stupid. They have to actively not adapt it and you can see in the show where they are side stepping the plot in order to not fall foul of the Tolkien estate. Getting permission on a case by case basis is obviously not working.

[@amandag5072]

I believe they only have the rights to some of the appendices, and nothing for the Silmarillion.

[@waylander9265]

I’d highlight that the Silmarillion isn’t really suited for adaptation, at least as a concept. The overall book is too broad, reading more like a history book than a novel. What you can do is take some of the more focused individual stories such as Beren and Luthien, Children of Hurin and the fall of Numenor and adapt them individually. Rings of Power doesn’t have any character or event to build itself around, it just wants to tell the story of the Second Age, which is why it’s so directionless.

[@chrism2964]

@@waylander9265 I have no problem with a show or movie that would try to do that, not every show has to have traditional structure. The problem is they cant even follow the story. We dont have a narrative text for most historic events, but they make reasonably accurate shows based on historical events. Its hard to do that when you have no narrative to follow, and aren't even allowed to follow the basic story. TROP is having to make up a story, when one already exists. It wont be as good, and it will always upset the fans. At least the jackson movies followed the stories quite closely and changes were understandable given the medium.

[@olivergiggins7931]

It's a bad situation definitely, but they're also not following the events they have the rights to, so the problem isn't lack of material. They just don't know how to make a story into a plot, so instead they've made up their own, which they're also not good at.

[@Shango_64]

Where did he go? Nobody's seen Sauron since he put on his wig of power!

[@gags730]

Two Years is way too soon.... I would have waited a lifetime not to see season 2.

[@elchavode6479]

Trailer feels like a geneic fantasy adventure

[@circedelune]

Actually it feels like a cartoon made by 9- year-olds.

[@rovhalt6650]

Fixed? Are you joking? You can't fix this mess. It's unfixable. It's like Mr Bean destroying whistler's mother. It's unsalvagable!

[@EnygmaRecords]

16:03 - Tolkien did write about the eagles and Númenor; three eagles guarded Meneltarma. The Númenóreans called them "the Witnesses of Manwë". The King's House in Armenelos was always inhabited by a pair of eagles until Tar-Ancalimon. Lots of eagles lived around the northern area of Sorontil...

[@factorfantasyweekly]

He really going through that Perry the Platypus type transformation here. Unrecognizable honestly.

[@--Sama-]

"Annatar" looks awful with that hairstyle. They turned Sauron into a joke. What a pathetic show, I didn't watch S1 and I will never watch S2.

[@ziephel-6780]

they already screwed up Sauron with Halbrand

[@nihilistajustinianvs6168]

On his forehead they forged the rings, the lore is consistent, lmao

[@Shave-ice]

Lies, you watched season one

[@davidbowles7281]

@@Shave-ice I tapped out at elf cancer. Ric Flair couldn't have done a better job.

[@StupidBros]

Looks super fucking fake and shitty

[@neocortex2043]

The man who talked about the jobs said "they are immortal" or something like that, but he had no interaction with Galadriel. He interacted only with Halbrand who at that point looked like a human, not like an immortal creature or elf.

[@Puma5]

Thangorodrim was First Age in Beleriand and created by Melkor. No way that‘s it.

[@jacobreed5655]

Reporters: "Mr. Trump! Mr. Trump!!" Trump Turns: "Yes?" Reporters: " Did you see the trailer to Rings of Power???" Trump: "Sad." Reporters: "You think diversity in LoTRs is 'sad'?" Trump: "I think you letting my senile opponent, Joe Biden, who can barely string two sentences together, write two whole seasons of a beloved franchise is sad."

[@CrystalsnGems]

I’ve been so uninterested in this show that I didn’t even realize they were releasing a second season until just now.

[@alexkats30]

The insta-creation of everything is another blight the modern CGI has inflicted upon us and the modern film storytelling, because without cgi, they would have to find a longer sequence of scenes to produce the same result , which would have been more pleasing optically and more engaging narratively. CGI is a tool which should be used wisely and in moderation, instead nowadays you have more of that, that adctual locations, actors and sets smh

[@erfarion]

I think they will try to make it look like Annatar was in Eregion during/before the events of Rop s1. That's why Celebrimbor needed that huge fancy forge to be built and maybe the rings for dwarves and men were already made. I can be mistaken, but i think i remember Celebrimbor said something about Halbrant looking familiar when they met in s1.

[@tobiasford7940]

Hey folks and its great to see your videos again. I agree with Michael though about the eagles. I also think that so long as you respect and acknowledge the paradigm then its ok to flesh out blank areas of the sand box. Eagles are massive, intelligent and quasi divine and just because Tolkein didnt actively focus the lens on an event; doesnt mean its implausible for one to fly (or roost) in Numenor - maybe it got curious and followed the silmaril chariot one day 😊. Just to be clear though i dont think RoP is doing that.

[@ecthelion1735]

In addition to Meneltarma, the eagles lived in Sorontil in the north of the island.

[@danguillou713]

I bet they will reveal that Annatar has been hanging out in Eregion for the whole time. Really excited to see how they explain that he can be Halbrad at same time: can he teleport or can he bud off clones of himself?

[@christianefiorito3204]

Poor Vulnerable Sauron was left by bad Guyladriel

[@Drak976]

He just wanted to grill and smith.

[@goyasolidar]

A Sauron-Galadriel romantic arc is just about the dumbest thing ever conceived.

[@JamesRaetz]

Yet Sauron and Guyladriel are true soulmates.

[@ito2789]

They are still trying to make it their own...not gonna happen.

[@nategraham6946]

The Valar did take the appearance of Elves when they first introduced themselves to the elves, so it may be possible.

[@kordel2756]

15:50 the frame is set as to give a short illusion of Ar-Pharazôn himself wearing the eagle wings, in a way borrowing eagle's power for a while. It would suggest the scene is meant to show eagle's support of AP, his plans or actions. Or maybe rather that the crowd percieves him as having this support. He unsheaths the sword before he becomes aware of the eagle, so the whole clip looks more like AP already decided to go to war not that he's only about to learn of it. Funnily enough I can't think right now of any good show utilising the wing trick, for sure that's what live action mulan and the got season 8 finale did.

[@brianmurray6287]

I couldn't get past S01E03 so I don't expect I will be watching the second season but you guys can scout it out for me.

[@jerryknuckles736]

Peter Jackson working on "The Hunt for Gollum" looks exciting for the grim times were in. A little bit of the Dunedain and the Mirkwood Elves should be alright.

[@robzei95]

So Halbrand decided to become evil because Galadriel rejected him? Who wrote this shit

[@ProudlyShadowBanned]

An incel

[@CarlWheatley-wi2cl]

They just don't have the talent to do this. They don't have the writers, the advisors, the creativity or the vision. An amateur theatre group larping at Tolkien. Taking on that length of the timeline was idiocy from the start. Even the most appropriate team imaginable can't pull that off and they wouldn't even try to begin with.

[@carlmcclatchie2122]

Great vid guys. don't forget they declared the eagles for the elves in pretty much scene one of the first series, when they did the war summary prologue. I seem to remember eagles killing dragons or some kind of flying beasts, but definitely eagles on the side of the elves.

[@rogermazuca4582]

Big birthday shout-out to the beautiful and only Galadriel Cate Blanchett who celebrates her birthday today May 15th.

[@tonyusa5509]

The Eagles were going to Numenor and they were staying at the Holy Mountain. They stopped going there once the Numenorians turned their back to the Valar ( Black Numenorians) and joined the cult of Melkor

[@frankvandorp9732]

I have seen the few supporters of this show claim that Annatar needs to have the same face as Halbrand because otherwise the audience wouldn't be able to tell who he is. In other words, they apparently think the fans of this show are such utter simpletons, that they don't understand the concept of a shape changer and will be confused if Sauron's new form doesn't have the same face as his previous form. So to make it more understandable for these cabbages, they will have him have the same face and have all elves just be too dull to recognize him.

[@feelnopain666]

One wig to trick them all 😂

[@johnsmoth7130]

Didn't the Numinorians believe that there were eagles on Meneltarma?

[@ricardotorres5524]

Shhh…let them think they know what they are talking about.

[@Enerdhil]

What do you mean? The nation gathered on and around Meneltarma three times a year for prayers to Eru and feasting. The Eagles would have been flying in circles above them during the ceremonies and feasts. So of course, all Numenorians knew about the Eagles of Manwë.

[@haleyschreiter9746]

Alas, poor Sadoc! We knew him well, Horatio 🤣🤣

[@dewulfe9913]

Dey terk err jobs!!! never gets old 😂

[@xXSjapXx]

I love the analogy of remember-berries, truly makes it a harry potter catastrophy!!!

[@Drak976]

Member Hagrid? Member eagles?? Ahhh I member eagles! Remember Gollum? What if we made a new Gollum trilogy? No no just 2 movies. 1 will be told from Gollums point of view and the other will be told from Smeagol's point of view. Peter Jackson should send me $ and I will not spoil his plot anymore. Yes there is a whacky barrel adventure it's half an hour in each movie.

[@FK-le7wg]

Have him wear glasses ... the perfect disguise.

[@Drak976]

Somehow Harfoots haven't gone extinct yet. 1:20 Wow who is this new guy? He looks so tranquil and zen like a normal elf. 15:35 The eagle would just be fine with these already corrupt people. So many of them? Not like meet 1 dude out on a hill? I dunno the lore is so thick.

[@moiragreyland]

Hold on to what matters most…Diversity!!

[@zoebaggins90]

There's literally an Asian elf in the trailer. 🤣

[@Tar-Elenion]

"No bird ever came there [Meneltarma], save only eagles. If anyone approached the summit, at once three eagles would appear and alight upon three rocks near to the western edge..." UT, Description of the Island of Númenor "Likewise within the lands the birds of Númenor were beyond count, from the kirinki that were no bigger than wrens, but all scarlet, with piping voices on the edge of human hearing, to the great eagles that were held sacred to Manwë, and never afflicted, until the days of evil and the hatred of the Valar began. " ibid

[@TheOneRingcom]

But the Númenoreans never really interacted with them. That's what I'm thinking... Plus, I'm betting--like Michael--this was sent by Galadriel.

[@Tar-Elenion]

@@TheOneRingcom I don't know what you mean by "interact". It is just a fact that there were eagles, including eagles of Manwe in Numenor. Neither of you recalled that. "From the days of Elros until the time of Tar-Ankalimon, son of Tar-Atanamir, some two thousand years, there was an eyrie of golden eagles in the summit of the tower of the king’s palace in Armenelos. There one pair ever dwelt and lived on the bounty of the king." NoMe, Land and Beasts of Numenor I don't think the description there however implies great eagles of Manwe. The Amazon show is, of course, just making it up...

[@Enerdhil]

​@@Tar-Elenion I would be surprised if any of the Great Eagles could land anywhere in Armenelos near the King's palace without destroying buildings with it wings

[@Gorbz]

Just remember, to Payne and MacKay just because Tolkien never said specifically that events never happened, then that means they could have, no matter how much has to be bent and broken to allow it.

[@458joey]

"DEI ELVES" OMG MY RIBS HURT FROM LAUGHING SO HARD.

[@AmbarVB]

theres a Beren in the distance... im not suprised

[@MasticinaAkicta]

I have seen better narrative sense in a bag of yarn left in a room full of kittens.

[@andreaswojtylo7167]

Maybe the Eagle is sent by Manwë. In the Akallabêth it is said that the Valar are sending emisaries to Númenor to get them back in line and are refused, this could be shown by Pharazôn drawing his sword

[@meta_haha]

Why do you consider that tower was made *in an instant*? You don't see the beginning frame pre-explosion. Current running theory is this is where Sauron died by the hands of Adar, and an explosion was the result, ala PJ's take on Sauron dispersing into the Ether.

[@MildandLazyGuy]

Yeah it was the harfoots that caused S1 to tank. Sure sure.

[@michaelpalerino5276]

Eagles did live in Numenor. I believe there was a pair that lived atop the King's Tower in Armenelos, until the Shadow came.

[@iwannaplayssbb6665]

Evil cannot create, it simply corrupts

[@AlfonsJQuack]

Amazing! Love the art. That's exactly why I think an animated adaptation would be great.

[@superduper476]

ME WANT MORE WOKE!!!! Dumpster 🔥 2.

[@kristianwesterdahl9576]

The sea is always right 👍🏼

[@danbendix1398]

"A Prime Membership will bind them all ..."

[@Mahabalipurama]

Please someone explain why Celebrimbor is played by this actor? WHYYYY? Why him? Lets be honest he’s too old for this role, what did he do during the auditions and why did he even audition for the role of the immortal elf blacksmith, no doubt strong and looking like a man in his prime?

[@VaderPopsVicodin10]

SO glad to see you guys NOT shilling for this horrendous garbage.. subbed.

[@johnmorris1009]

Sauron had been evil since his very early existence - and I mean completely evil. There is a possibility that when Morgoth was cast out into the void, Sauron felt real remorse over some of his past actions and may have briefly wished to redeem himself, but we do not know this for sure and that's about as close to being good as he ever came, after his initial corruption. By the time he arrived in Lindon, over 1000 years later, he had long since returned to his evil ways and certainly had no desire to be loved. I think what the series is doing is trying to apply the George R R Martin logic to its characters; no one is truly just good or evil. However in the cases of Galadriel amd Sauron, that isn't true and this "blurring the lines" template can't be applied to their characters.

[@onepunchmantolkienfan5383]

15:22 that is Don Lemonless!

[@ekszentrik]

Real Hobbit clans get the correct "-foots" suffix, but the fake Hobbits are Harfeet.

[@toodlescae]

Anyone who says that no one realizing that Superman and Clark Kent are the same person doesn't work on film owes Christopher Reeve a posthumous apology after seeing this crap. I compared the vine things as coming straight from Jumanji just not as bright. Sauron/Annatar let it go..let it go. Can't hold it back anymore..and pulled an Elsa. 🤦‍♀️