What Happened To Ken Rosenberg After Vice City, Why Tommy Didn't Help Him - GTA Lore Explained

[@theprofessional155]

Edit: I won the claim after a month the video is now mine This video has been copyright claimed by take two interactive over the San Andreas introduction cutscenes. Its ridiculous. Im fighting the claim. It expires in 28 days. If you guys do enjoy the video please do drop a like. I didn't want to delay the video any further.

[@RealFredbear]

Copyright claims are dumb…

[@TeddyBear-um5ll]

Ok, alright.

[@MeeMeeCandy777]

Damn! I have just finished typing my comment on here and not even before I was finished, this happens. Why are you doing this, Take-Two Interactive? Let the poor The Professional play games in peace. But I feel bad that not even an hour has passed, you got a copyright claim. Dammit, Rockstar. At least it's better than a copyright strike because that would be MUCH worse...

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

Imagine copyright claiming a video for cutscenes

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

@@MeeMeeCandy777 I feel more pissed on take two and I feel bad for pro I hope he reuploads with no changes if this doesn’t worked I liked the comment to check if it stays

[@MrWaifuTaker]

As sudden as Tommy cutting ties with Rosenberg was, he at least has honor in the sense that he didn't betray Rosenberg and instead paid for his rehab before quietly parting ways. Says a lot about Tommy's character, as most mob bosses would deal with addicts and Ken and Tommy were good friends, and Tommy would never betray anyone unless they were a danger to him. Tommy parting ways with Rosenberg was necessary, otherwise he could've inadvertedly put the entire Vercetti gang in danger.

[@vic8695]

tommy was a complete asshole. He showed no respect to ken ever since the beginning of the events ov VC, he pushed and bullied him, he mocked him. Rosenberg endured all this abise and still didn't betrayed Tommy. After all this, Tommy simply dumped in the rehab center on the other side of the country and cut all ties. This is because Ray Liotta was a pain in the butt for R* and the studio didn't wanted to work with him anymore. Seems he kept having temper tantrums and hissy fits during filming.

[@P.G13]

Then tommy will be force to kill ken… which would be the saddest thing that happened in gta…

[@TheChosenMoose01]

It was also good for Ken's health. I may be wrong, but doesn't he stop using coke after he works for Carl?

[@toshinoriyagi1887]

@@TheChosenMoose01 i assume he stopped it again since he is working with Maddogg who was also an addict but Cj took him to rehab after he saved his life and he hates Drugs now cause it nearly killed him so i think Maddogg will refuse to work with Ken if he is using drugs

[@TheChosenMoose01]

@@toshinoriyagi1887 Probably. So in a way, Tommy helped Ken. Not to mention he got Ken out of his crime syndicate, so in a weird way, Ken got an ending similar to Tommy, as they don't have heat from their Mafia Families anymore.

[@Muramasa1794]

It’s a shame that Rockstar had a falling out with Ray Liotta. Just imagine Tommy appearing in San Andreas. Man what could have been

[@TheProfessor66]

It's possible for them to do it now with the technology we have and there being amazing voice actors who can mimic someone perfectly but Rockstar is corrupt and careless now, they won't do the fans justice.

[@dswagjr8802]

@@TheProfessor66 its not possible anymore since we are in the hd universe

[@theenhancedmatrix3127]

@@TheProfessor66 I can only see it happening if they decide to do REAL in-house remakes of the 3D universe trilogy, keeping the main story intact and adding some additional story to the games all on the RAGE engine. That would obviously be much better than the garbage definitive editions we got in November

[@BlazingOwnager]

@@dswagjr8802 They crossover between universes whenever they want to.

[@xscythe67]

Now I see what Lester meant

[@AH-is5yg]

Ken was a funny character. I'm glad he survive the events of Vice City and San Andreas. He got a happy ending. He now has an honest job. He, Kent Paul, and Maccer are going to be very wealthy working for Madd Dog.

[@hybridShinx]

Maccer needs to stop fapping or he's gonna die unexpectedly :v

[@NoNameforreal]

I think tommy wanted to be him safe because he is kind hearted innocent kinda

[@AH-is5yg]

@@NoNameforreal yeah, even if it means he has to cut ties with him for good. At least Ken got something good at the end. Down he's taking drugs again. Hope he stops taking them

[@bigjwpac]

He’s based on Sean penn’s character in Carlito’s way

[@Adri9570]

*_Ken Rosenberg, the Mike Wazowski from GTA_* 🤓🤷‍♀🤓🤷‍♀

[@dennisjohnson1937]

Even though Tommy is a hardened criminal, he at least has some morals. Most crime bosses would've probably whacked Ken, but due to his loyalty to him he didn't. He even paid for his rehab. I'm glad that Ken had a happy ending, hopefully it stays that way.

[@josephstalin2606]

Yea Tommy was more fair to people like Ken and Lance than he had any reason to be. If it was Sonny he would’ve just had them whacked but Tommy offers many chances unless they betray him which then he just kills them

[@toshinoriyagi1887]

If it was Claude he would have killed him he have no morals or loyalty he is a pure psycho i think of all the Gta characters Claude is the most dangerous of them All

[@dennisjohnson1937]

@@toshinoriyagi1887 Definitely.

[@Zygothknightlord]

All GTA protagonists are a hardened criminals and mass murderers lol. But all of them except Claude have a moral compass and sense of loyalty to their friends or families.

[@dennisjohnson1937]

@@Zygothknightlord Vic Vance is not a hardened criminal.

[@speedy7892]

My fan theory about Tommy knowing how Ken is after San Andreas is that yes he did find out about Ken working with Madd Dogg (probably from television or connections) and sees that Ken is enjoying his life and decides to leave him to his own terms instead of trying to reconnect

[@nicoffee777]

That's a nice theory! Very interesting one

[@donnbaahubali]

He must know

[@ChaplainPhantasm]

Tommy's a good man. A psychotic murderer and drug dealer, sure, but a good man for his friends. Probably he was happy too, seeing Ken enjoy life and everything

[@OhNotThat]

Tommy is a stand up guy simply cause knowing how the rest of the mafia families in Liberty work (the forellis, the sindacos, the leones) every one of them will without hesitation whack loose ends when they stop being useful for them. The culture of liberty mafiasos is dogshit, even loyal soldiers like Tommy get whacked for simply making Sonny feel insecure. Tommy unlike everyone from his liberty city mafiaso culture, DIDN'T whack Ken when he proved to be a liability. Tommy really did turn out to be... *a good fella*

[@skizzo1881]

That's good decision.

[@the_black_dragons293]

"This is so exciting tommy it's just like old days" Cj: who the fck is Tommy!?

[@mariuszmiroslaw2290]

Claude: This is so exciting Carl it's just like old days! 8 Balls: who the fck is Carl!? :-D

[@erdjas5706]

@@mariuszmiroslaw2290 Claude: ... 8-ball: who the fuck is Carl?

[@IkeFanBoy64]

​@@mariuszmiroslaw2290 You just know Catalina talked Claude's ear off about CJ

[@Kishiwii]

Unexpectedly sad

[@DustD.Reaper]

I just love how one of his biggest concerns at a daily basis is just looking good...I mean Tommy just killed Sunny and his men all on his own, but Kens first concern is Tommys ruined suit

[@ONI_LONI]

Can't be a Crime Lord without drip.

[@chevroletastra1619]

Ken is the funny character from the movie and also the secondary character that changes the entire story

[@kamarienelson6201]

Tommy killed them out of Self defense in a scene similar to how scarface ends.

[@ChaplainPhantasm]

Looks are important, no matter how many you kill

[@bloomwinx2259]

Hey it's important to look good.

[@lucapopovici1483]

Man it's so sad that Tommy's actor died this year.... He was a legend

[@Trane141Kingz]

Ain't that the truth

[@conman_yt7999]

*WHAT*

[@conman_yt7999]

"Raymond Allen Liotta was an American actor and film producer. He was best known for his roles as Shoeless Joe Jackson in Field of Dreams and Henry Hill in Martin Scorsese's Goodfellas. He was a Primetime Emmy Award winning actor and received nominations for a Golden Globe and two Screen Actors Guild Awards. Wikipedia Born: December 18, 1954, Newark, NJ Died: May 26, 2022, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic" well I'll be damned

[@regularsnippets]

R.I.P Ray Liotta

[@imagamershorts]

R:I:P LEGEND YOU MADE MY CHILDHOOD BIG SALUTE TO HIM!!!!🥲🤧❤️💛💙😿

[@pauliusmscichauskas558]

Just because Rosenberg doesn't have a family, doesn't mean that Sonny can't threaten to murder it (He doesn't know). Also, might mean parents, not necessarily wife and kids...

[@phantom_xrd]

Also pets

[@Xegethra]

Yeah anyone really, siblings, parents and all the rest.

[@shutit4024]

That’s how I took it

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

That's what I was thinking.

[@gillespriod5509]

Sonny died in 86 Who Will he kill years later?

[@terrymorgan5304]

People really need to stop defending Rosenberg and blaming Tommy for abandoning him. It's Ken's own fault. He was the one who decided to fuck his own health up with that cocaine. So Tommy blowing him off is a smart decision since cokeheads are known to act wild and would be dangerous for business. Just look at Tony Montana.

[@TheChosenMoose01]

He didn't blow him off. He tried to help him, by getting him rehab and getting him out of one of the worst places to be for addicts.

[@terrymorgan5304]

@@TheChosenMoose01 Exactly. I just dislike how people are so quick to blame Tommy for Ken's own decision to sniff coke.

[@luispedroprates4700]

@@terrymorgan5304 honestly I think neither of them are guilty, being drug addicted it's a disease, even when you're aware that you might become a drug addicted, the stress will probably make you lie to yourself, saying you wont get addicted and it will be just one line, and Tommy probably paid his rehab is because he had hope he could cure his best friend, and Tommy just "abandoned" his friend it's because he didn't had a choice, when Ken became the third party between the families in the cassino, even if it wasn't his choice, he couldn't go back to Tommy and involving with his gang after the crusade they made against the Forellis, he even tried, but in the scene of the Special edition of GTA SA, we can see it doesn't work

[@swagoneto7922]

@@frankgrimes7388 He's comparing two fictional characters....Not real life man.

[@mitcheltheman1366]

@@frankgrimes7388 Real or fiction, you know how detrimental it would be to have coke addicts around during business. Tommy had every right to cut all ties with Ken. Ken is lucky Tommy didn't blast him like he did Lance.

[@PatrickBautista_RR3Gamer]

The ending in Vice City is sad in and on itself, as we see Ken's addiction get the better of him and alone trapped in a mob war for control of a casino. Kent Paul is the only Vice City character to be his only friend left until a fateful meeting with CJ.

[@frozezone2947]

How the hell ending in vice city sad ? The ending gave us an expression that Tommy and Rosenberg are gonna run vice city

[@PatrickBautista_RR3Gamer]

@@frozezone2947 I mean it's sad in a _hindsight_ when San Andreas came along. Rosenberg relishes with Tommy's victory, but they eventually drift apart in 90s when Rosenberg's coke addiction goes out of control. Tommy had to send him to rehab and had to cut ties. And like what Professional said, Tommy had to leave Ken out of tough love and he can't bring himself to betray him because Ken was loyal to him.

[@frozezone2947]

@@PatrickBautista_RR3Gamer That doesn't even make any sense, any could of happen during the events of San andreas

[@nier133]

@@frozezone2947 you can’t read or something?

[@buincqv67]

Off topic but it’s funny if you think about it tenpenny is the reason Carl met truth, and then maccer and Paul eventually introducing him to ken, also if it wasn’t for Cesar, cj never would have met jizzy thus saving toreno, tenpenny literally created his own demise .

[@shadowcelica5554]

the cutscene of Johnny having an heart attack might be one of the funiest cutscene in the history of GTA

[@ChaplainPhantasm]

Especially with CJ's delivery of "Damn, that n$@!a fucked up."

[@thebeastwithin6978]

Diarrhea, yeah cool! ☺️

[@MrStuniz96]

Such a shame and a missed opportunity for Rockstar games to not restore all the cut content in the definitive edition, that would have made the definitive edition a mix between a nostalgia and a new experience for new and old players and it probably would have been a good reason to buy it again even if it was bugged as hell.

[@eru.maewos7673]

Blud, the objective of the "Definitive" edition was never to be THE definitive experience of the 3D era but for CASH. So that you know, the version they used for the games are the mobile versions - YEAH -. The game's soundtracks are incomplete because they couldn't and wouldn't pay for the rights even though Rockstar is making 1 BILLION per year.....

[@vexile1239]

Don't forget apparently the ones who did the definitive edition was working with the mobile port made by a third rate group

[@Rares_G4H]

Ken Rosenberg is a best played character by William Fichtner. I had no idea that Ken Rosenberg and Sandman(Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3) were the same voice because Rosenberg sounds panicked and Sandman as a hardcore spec ops soldier. Which proves that Fichtner has some good voice acting skills.

[@meachumstaylor7502]

mind blown

[@conman_yt7999]

Ain't that the guy who was in teenage mutant Ninja turtles?

[@skizzo1881]

Ok I am surprised now.

[@tmik3443]

And black hawk down

[@hewhobattles8869]

"Even if I'm dead by the end of the week, I'd like to think I didn't die poor." I guess when you're living the life of a criminal or mercenary, that's basically what it all comes down to.

[@legoc-3po845]

Thid video just proves that tommy is one of the least insane GTA protagonists other than Niko, because he doesnt bother anybody and just mind about resting from crime. Tommy is also pretty loyal to people even though Lance and Sonny betrayed and tried to kill him.

[@Zygothknightlord]

Well I don't understand why some few people comment anything like "Tommy is more evil or psycho than CJ". Sure Tommy never remorse unlike CJ but he's also loyal to his allies same as CJ and Niko and importantly he has much less bodycount (Tommy only killed 11 hitmans in Liberty City and he only killed a lot of people in Vice City. While CJ killed a lot of people in most areas of California and Nevada , He also killed a ton of Forelli gang members in Liberty City St Mark Bistro mission) and his murders were slightly less brutal than CJ's murders in general. CJ is easily the most brutal GTA protagonist along with Toni and Trevor in my opinion.

[@wslilsoldier575]

Dude what are you talking about Tommy is insane he said it himself in the ending of vice city he is a psychotic killer and drug dealer

[@donnbaahubali]

@@Zygothknightlord Moral characters have more kill count

[@thesun5275]

Naw, Tommy is fucking insane. He is loyal, but ruthless to everyone else

[@skizzo1881]

Loyalty is a key to have good life. I agree with Tommy being least insane. True insane is Claude actually.

[@downeyjr3603]

Tommy parting ways with Ken is a very wise decision otherwise Tommy had to take care of him eventually. Tommy is always loyal to his friends and associates. He's my favorite gta protagonist for a reason.

[@skizzo1881]

CJ and Tommy are the best.

[@galilalexandro4392]

Ken Rosenberg is one of my favorite characters from GTA Vice City, I always thought he was hilarious😂

[@UnbornHeretic]

I like to think that Tommy also doesn't want Ken to come back because he is a recovering addict and Tommy is a drug dealer. Tommy knows that if Ken comes back, it is far too likely he gets back into drugs. Tommy doesnt want that.

[@b.a.m.mdoublem1196]

Rosenberg was lucky to have met CJ. He would have eventually got killed by Salvatore if it wasn't for CJ

[@josh18230]

Rosenberg probably died of a drug overdose either way

[@kingartison]

He’s never totally safe

[@Predators--cz2fb]

Ken’s the luckiest junky in the series.

[@davidyoung2111]

G.T.A. Vice City is my all time favorite game. I just wish you had a jetpack & could swim. I live San Andreas Alot but I liked the Vice City story more, the whole mob thing, plus you could own business in Vice City.

[@gold_soulo]

@@davidyoung2111 vice city stories might be your game, same concept and prequel to vice city and you can swim for like 20 seconds b4 your stamina runs our and you drown

[@YepItsGaryBusey]

Great video man! When I met William Fichtner (Ken Rosenberg) he said he would love to come back in GTA VI

[@hewhobattles8869]

10:45 This reminds me of something my Accounting and Business Management teacher use to say all the time when I was in High School: "Even criminals and drug dealers need accountants."

[@iambloopy]

Man, I appreciate these break downs. I've always known Ken but I was confused by his presence in San Andreas. This break down made sense

[@yoshikagekira481]

Ken Rosenberg *panicking* Carl Johnson:get a grip i can help you! Tommy Vercetti:shut up ken!

[@donnbaahubali]

Both tried to calm him but in different ways Tommy in a dominating way while CJ in a calming way

[@penguinsrockrgr8yt216]

YES I always love these lore videos :) The copyright claim is BS hope you win

[@DB-bq6zc]

What happened?

[@smallies7154]

Hope he loses

[@nier133]

@@smallies7154 life must be sad for you

[@hewhobattles8869]

As much as I would like to see Tommy and Ken reunite one more time and just see how happy they are to see each other, it's probably for the best they keep distance and don't talk. I know it's not really nice to say but Ken is literally better off with Tommy thinking he's dead or just out the mob stuff for good. Because if anyone who connected to that world or even a cop sees them interacting again, that immediately puts Ken's life in danger. He only panics when he's in danger. And what does he do when he panics? His coke addiction resurfaces. I'd really hate to see Ken dead from an OD. This is his one and probably only chance to have a normal life like he told Carl. Speaking of which, he better hope that if Salvatore comes after Carl, he'll be well protected. And I think he will. Because Carl has a great network of people to help him. Also he and Sweet are supremely against drugs, so there's little chance of Ken being exposed to that shit again.

[@henriquecampos4120]

Uh... That's not gonna happen! Salvatore won't be able to go after CJ, unless he does it as a ghost. Claude took care of him in GTA III.

[@Nixkrude79]

Also with ken and Maccer around they always say 3's a crowd look what they do so it a 50/50 chance at best

[@TheChosenMoose01]

@@henriquecampos4120 SA takes place 9 years before GTA 3 does. There was plenty of time to try and kill Rosenberg. Not to mention 1998, when Toni Cipriani returns to Salvatore.

[@donnbaahubali]

@@TheChosenMoose01 There is a rule in Italian Mafia not to go after the person's family

[@TheChosenMoose01]

@@donnbaahubali I don't think Mr. Leone gave a shit after Carl screwed him over.

[@Despon]

Fun Fact: TheProfessional knows a majority of these facts about the inner workings of mobs because he himself has been in many mobs at once and has been on the run from these mobs in multiple states after being found out.

[@Tismdylan]

Oh dear

[@aribantala]

LMAO Nah, he studied Law Enforcement theories in College it's close tho but not quite there 😅

[@Spicystachegamer]

Really I thought it was cause he was a lawyer?

[@SolluxAmpora]

You did a good job with this video. I love Ken so much and I love watching people talk about him.

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

Truly Ken Rosenberg’s cocaine addiction would be a major liability for Tommy Vercetti and his gang. That he didn’t really wanted to kick Ken out of his life. Only his criminal syndicate. Let’s hope there’s some friendship that needs some reconnecting

[@Tedi652]

"My only friend is a bird named Tony" Gets me every time 😂😂😂

[@Trane141Kingz]

Actually... That's sad.

[@tomastoth4018]

R.I.P. Ray Liotta. A lot of people can argue that his best performance ever was "Goodfellas", but I sincerely believe Tommy's character is a winner by a significant margin. This is a masterpiece by all means.

[@BirdGang6]

It sucks that Tommy and Ken had the falling out they did because the ending of Vice City is probably the most wholesome moment in all of GTA

[@commanderproton7763]

Two notes: - Ken had been working with the Forellis for many years prior to VC. An official guide mentions he had been associated with them since 1978. (Further that he was born in 1953, this also proves he couldn't have been Tommy's lawyer in the Harwood Butcher Trial) - We actually know further about Tommy's fate. There was promo website made for VC called "Kent Paul's 80's Nostalgia Zone!" Sometime between the events of San Andreas in 1992 and 2002, Kent Paul developed a drug addiction. By 2002, he was in a halfway house and currently in an after care program. He started the website as part of his therapy. Anyway, in the social problems of the 80s, he mentions Tommy at the bottom. "(see, Tom, I didn't mention your name, nowhere. Maybe you won't get us killed now, okay?)" This confirms that Tommy is still alive in 2002 (aged 51) and still in charge of his Crime Family.

[@alienkeagster2443]

Pro, I think when Ken meant about family he meant his parents and possible siblings.

[@gabrasos1486]

You never disappoint Pro. Your videos really help me with getting schoolwork done. Very relaxing and interesting.

[@melinuevaera]

omg i’ve been waiting for this🤩👏🏽

[@nazrizulkhairi2255]

Been waiting for this, finally, i have always love your lore video hoping for more this kind of video hope you will do on Lance Vance , Avery , Phil Cassidy and Auntie Poulet.

[@Berserkerenergy]

Great Lore Video about Ken Rosenberg.

[@AniKeTAhiReOfficial]

Ray Liotta passed away just a month ago. May his soul rest in peace. Tommy Vercetti and Ray Liotta live on!

[@devangnivatkar2649]

The question that bugs me is how did the Mafia forgive him? He is known to have sided with Tommy Vercetti, jumping ship from the Forellis. Sonny Forelli even threatens him (and his loved ones) during the endgame of Vice City. So he's a known enemy of the mob. However, once his partnership with Tommy ends, the mob (including the Forelli family) employs him in a fairly high position in their latest (and very lucrative) business venture.

[@mariuszmiroslaw2290]

''A 3rd Party''

[@aribantala]

1. Only to the Forellis, the Forellis are the weakest Family in LC by the Time SA happened after the death of Sonny Forelli, that's why Johnny Sindacco didn't even bother bringing a Forelli to his meeting with the Leones. 2. Salvatore Leone want to use him. He's the one suggesting it to Johnny Sindacco Salvatore is a slimy bastard that always tried to play cards that looks fair, when it actually isn't. Johnny Sindacco probably also thought that he could use Ken as a Pawn as well 3. He was only an associate for the Forellis, and the guy who run the Forellis after Sonny died doesn't give a rat's ass about Ken due to their weak oosition

[@tentacledood5784]

Maybe they just decided it was more trouble than he's worth

[@s4life91]

thank you for the upload finally after a long time we got a real good lore video

[@cobygoldmann1821]

I love your Machiavelli quote, I’ve been studying him and his works recently and it was awesome when I heard you quote him.

[@traviseller8160]

Tommy should've told Ken in person/over the phone that he couldn't return. Tommy was right on not letting Ken return, saved his life.

[@larrytod9790]

Funny thing when I first played San Andreas I thought tommy was killed off at some point after vice city because ken doesn't mentioned him once.

[@princessmarlena1359]

“Better Call….KEN!”

[@alnobleman2884]

Lol love it. He does remind me of Saul

[@bigsmoke2580]

Your ideas are always unique !!

[@VenomSP]

I think R* got the Ken Rosenberg character from Sean Penn in the movie Carlito's Way

[@kingjamization]

Hell yeah Pro! We have been waiting for this! Get those copyright claims! As Zero once said: We shall fight to the end!

[@shazmax422]

Wow grove street games ruined Kent Paul’s character model and turned him into a disney character

[@Scorpio19110]

It is that because Ray didn’t appear in SA, that R* thought of such a lore that Tommy sends him away from VC, where the mafia doesn’t have any involvement, so that they can’t find him, but over the time, Tommy realised he’s much better off without him, plus Ken returning to VC was Mission Impossible at this point.

[@TeddyBear-um5ll]

Lore video... interesting... I do like Ken for his goofy and smart personality.

[@justchill1617]

Yeah glad he also appeared in sa, the voice actor really did a good job

[@jacoblangobard4640]

29:00 I never see anyone talking about this reference, CJ is having an internal dialog like Tommy does in vice city.

[@anthonye.belljr.2332]

Great work bro, I really enjoyed your video the GTA games are my favorite so thank you for you commentary..

[@Robith81]

Fun fact : Ken Rosenberg is the only gta character that appear in final mission of two gta games

[@mr_andrew7707]

lance vance

[@andy56duky]

​@@mr_andrew7707 he was killed on one of them. Ken on the other hand doesn't.

[@newageweeb4049]

I grew up playing gta 3 and vice city stories. Your videos got me to play all the ps2 gta games. Thanks for that because now their my favorite games.

[@Maverick-dv6ps]

Thank you for your content Professional, I highly appreciate it

[@brandonperez8977]

I always thought Ken leaves Vice City because had a fight with Tommy and offended him or something. Ray Lolita wasn't very happy working on Rockstar when they came to his house and got underpaid. And Ray got very furious about that later when he heard that Vice City become a success and tells Rockstar that he deserves to be more paid. and ended up having his character dead for saying that

[@kratosgow342]

nah it's also Ray is really difficult to work with during VC production that's why Rockstar decided to cut tie from him

[@TheChosenMoose01]

@@kratosgow342 Yeah Ray would act like a diva. Badger Gooder has a video talking about celebs in GTA and mentions him and Burt Reynolds' time with Vice City.

[@brandonperez8977]

@@TheChosenMoose01 LOL! I still remember that about the diva part

[@josephstalin2606]

“and ended up having his character dead” you mean metaphorically as in we just never hear from Tommy again right? Because he never canonically died and is presumably still the kingpin of Vice city. The only 3d main character that is canonically dead is Vic

[@TheChosenMoose01]

@@josephstalin2606 Tommy could be. He's pretty old as of 2022.

[@anonluxor470]

I always wondered what why ken was in San Andreas working for Salvatore

[@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459]

Tommy obviously parted ways with Ken because of the latter's drug habit but he was at least honorable enough to want to help him get better.

[@AvrahamDiallo]

I am sad we didn't get GTA SA Stories.

[@TheChosenMoose01]

I wonder who we would have been, considering every stories character appeared in another game.

[@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial]

@@TheChosenMoose01 It would either be Sweet, Ryder, Big Smoke (before Tenpenny convinced to betray GSF) or Cesar as the protagonist for GTA SAS.

[@TheChosenMoose01]

@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial I doubt it. The GTA stories' characters were more side characters and not scene as often in the main game. Toni Cipriani was in GTA 3 for a few missions, Vic Vance dies at the beginning of Vice City, and Johnny and Luis appeared in GTA 4 a few times during the main story.

[@MrJchris97]

Would’ve been dope if it was Brian Johnson

[@TheChosenMoose01]

@@MrJchris97 That makes sense tbh.

[@MaytayMaya]

I love you're lore videos man, they're the perfect thing to listen while I'm doing something it's like listening to a history documentary on GTA.

[@xscythe67]

Can we talk about how Sonny set up the deal with Diaz in order to get rid of Tommy? Sure, Sonny thought of the backup plan of extorting Tommy, in case he lived, but he wasn't meant to survive that deal

[@gtagamingmod4080]

Yes i like this story

[@xscythe67]

@cool guy from 2007 it'd be too obvious, plus Tommy would be suspecting one of his gang members to attempt that, considering Tommy already has suspicions about the last incident.

[@justsomeguywithamustache]

Nah Ricardo diaz set up the deal no Sonny

[@xxprototypexx5056]

​@cool guy from 2007 No he couldn't, even if there were members loyal enough to do so, Tommy would 100% recognize that the men are Sonny's. Which is why in both ambushes there not a single Foreli goon, only Hitmen with no known history.

[@xxprototypexx5056]

@cool guy from 2007 Your misunderstanding what I said. I know in the Mafia that if the boss tells you to do something, that you had to do it, that's not at all what I was saying. Im saying that Sonny would not send his own guys because in the event that Tommy survived, he would recognize that it was Sonny's men and would figure out Sonny sent them and broke the Omerta, which would have put Sonny in a very bad situation. Even though Sonny is the mob boss, there are things that even a mob boss cannot do otherwise risking their entire organization and the loyalty of the gang. One of those thing he can't do is killing a main man in the family for no good reason. Doing so risks the gang abandoning or even killing the mob boss because the mob boss is just killing his men because he didn't like them, meaning they could all be a potential target.

[@duarte11_pt40]

It would be pretty cool of we had a cutscene were Madd Dog goes on tour to vice city and Ken sees Tommy

[@Jonics18]

William Fichtner doesnt get enough credit for his performance as Ken.

[@bobhill3941]

Thanks so much for doing this. I never got very far in San Andreas (I wish Rockstar implemented their skip checkpoint feature in GTA games and not stopped with la noir and RDR 1/2) I always wondered what happened to Ken, I'm glad he made it out alive, thanks for the explanation. Also, on the same note, thanks for explaining what happened to CJ's mom. After I killed Sonny I never knew about the level to get Ken out of Vice City.

[@jackkoshyari6916]

Detailed and precise. Great job with the video!

[@henriquecampos4120]

The cool thing about this video is that it's also a hidden lore on Johnny Sindacco as well, since all of his appearances were shown here as well. I love Johnny. My theory is that he ended up in this kind of business because of the family and his father, but I can feel he's truly a good guy at heart. So, my unpopular opinion is that, if I could spend some time with a GTA character, it would be him. I would hug him and advise he doesn't need to follow this path. I admire his courage of going alone to make the proposal to Salvatore, even though he's shitting on his pants as we all would, and how much he naively wanted to unite the families, just to follow his dad's desire. He kept that promise till the end. Johnny was never able to live his own life. He's charismatic, has a soothing voice and he's good at persuasion, even though the deal is ridiculous. He maintains his calm and he never gives me the sense he's gonna backstab me ever. Also, he is friendly and does a warm greeting to Ken... Outgoing even when he's recovering from a coma. CJ should've explained to Ken what he did and that he could deal with the Sindacco by himself, since he was well received and it's not like they're the Forellis or the Leones. That fuck up could've resulted in Ken's death and he would save Johnny as well, since he did a horrible thing with him. That would be something. I don't know if he thought he could apologize, but his greeting was kinda threatening and Johnny was still fragile. He's a victim in all of this. Even though I feel bad for his death at such a young age, I think that was the his best way of go... A quick heart attack. We all know how the mafia treats the ones they kill! At the end, a cool character who's important as hell to the Las Venturas storyline. Probably has a lot of depth hidden we'll never find out. He definitely deserves some love!

[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

It seems Rockstar just doesn't like any character called Johnny to survive, lol

[@skizzo1881]

@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 They also don't like name Lance and Sonny.

[@phantom_xrd]

Ken is someone who I'd like to be friends with.

[@Zygothknightlord]

Ken , Cesar , Woozie and Little Jacob are the nicest protagonists friends in GTA series.

[@phantom_xrd]

@@Zygothknightlord I can agree with that statement.

[@skizzo1881]

@@Zygothknightlord They are the best.

[@lil-neutron1437]

Best lore videos for all the content fr

[@safsnake]

finally a lore video about this, we need more lore vids!!!!

[@christianlarson2933]

Once again Pro, you put more thought into these things than Rockstar ever did.

[@skizzo1881]

My boy Ken was always loyal and good. He deserves to live happily ever after.

[@rangelgaming1374]

Been waiting on more lore video pro, they never dissapoint👍

[@kildawg]

Kent Paul about Ken Rosenberg: That bonkers ambulance chaser. He could defend an innocent man all the way to death row. Also Kent Paul: Happy to work with Ken Rosenberg at Caligula's and to produce Madd Dogg's rhymes

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Also Kent Paul: Got a breast transplant.

[@a_p_vox]

@@poweroffriendship2.0 that's Maccer, not Paulo 🤨

[@patricktate5734]

Nice one Prof. I look foward to the GTA lore videos.

[@tomasgancahaluska]

Johnny died... CJ: "Damn that nigga's fcked up" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@NfiniteRage]

This was why the first 3 games were great. Every game's story interwined with one another. GTA IV and Episodes from Liberty city were great too.

[@EneTheGene]

Soo, gta 1, 2, and London?

[@Tismdylan]

​@@EneTheGene Chinatown wars was better

[@akotostotos9619]

It is hard to imagine that Ken was kicked out. That was one of the happiest endings ever ! Truly ! Every time I finish the game after replaying it , I cry at that scene saying " and they lived happily ever after ".

[@otherssingpuree1779]

39:53 This scene adds a bit more to Maccer. He fights in the desert-snake mission and he is worried about CJ's backup.

[@flamingeel3196]

1 awnser. his cocaine addiction

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

Facts!

[@MeeMeeCandy777]

I saw the notification and I came here very quick! I really loved Tommy and Ken's relationship in Vice City. It was so sweet and wholesome. I feel bad for Rosenberg by the time the events of San Andreas began. Fun fact: Tommy was originally supposed to talk to Ken during The Introduction, but his voice actor (Ray Liotta) wanted more money from Rockstar, so it didn't happen. I really liked his voice actor.

[@peytonguy8431]

You know maybe gta 6 can be about a person in Tommy’s gang and he rises through the ranks and to make the story sad they can say that he died and the player becomes the boss of Tommy’s gang.

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

That would be a true sequel to gta Vice city.

[@TheChosenMoose01]

If GTA 6 releases next year and is based of next year, Tommy would either be 71 or 72 years old, but since Ray Liotta and Rockstar don't get along, I doubt Tommy would return.

[@sreenaths6829]

A proper HD sequel to GTA Vice City? Count me the fuck in!

[@TheChosenMoose01]

Now they really can't make a Tommy Vercetti game since Ray Liotta passed away.

[@sreenaths6829]

@@TheChosenMoose01 so I heard. RIP. It's impossible unless they can change the voice actor but yeah highly unlikely...

[@iPhone3GS_68]

Every gta character has their funniest line in CJs case it’s “I’d love to talk to you but I got some money that needs spending on expensive trash” it’s just too good

[@Icy-ok3gi]

Ken had luck that he met CJ.

[@tottenvillelegend826]

Good explanation. Love these lore videos!

[@GeekyGamer412]

Ken is basically the saul Goodman of the gta universe

[@vilibari1482]

Can we jst admire the quality of the video❤❤

[@yusufamir3010]

Vice city lore is the best

[@hewhobattles8869]

Best Lore: Vice City with San Andreas as a close second Best Story/Plot: GTA IV Best Gameplay/Combat: GTA V Best Missions: San Andreas just because they're crazy 🤣 Best Characters: GTA IV, V, San Andreas all tie Most Iconic: GTA III

[@galilalexandro4392]

@@hewhobattles8869 San Andreas along with GTA4 and EFLC have better combat than 5 and best characters are GTA 4 and all the 3D universe

[@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial]

@@galilalexandro4392 Nah. Every GTA has bad characters.

[@yusufamir3010]

@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial tbh i cant remember any poorly written gta 4 characters. But to be fair rockstar is really good with character writing and character development

[@mattcaporuscio6956]

34:16 is my favorite line from CJ

[@Zygothknightlord]

This is also one of my favorite lines from CJ. CJ has a lot of iconic , awesome and funny quotes.

[@MeepmcarthurtheSECOND]

You deserve more subs

[@Durzeo]

This is so detailed, it makes my life look like a crap story.

[@miguelpascual824]

Rosenberg literally had met all the mafia sonny forelli salvatore leone and johnny sindacco

[@grimmstarkk5795]

Finally I’ve been wondering about kent for so long

[@kobra6660]

Vice and san andreas are my favourite game it showed me how drugs are dangerous and how not playing by the rules can ruin a whole career

[@reyzavcy7827]

Same me too

[@noobsense.]

Ken is Saul Goodman in Miami 💀

[@oj397]

Ken is the accountant and Paul is the sound engineer, Ken is simply so coked out and willing that he doesn’t even fully register what CJ is asking him to do. Ken is the numbers guy at all times lol.

[@wusgoodie7498]

Thank you so much. I always wondered this.

[@Null42x86]

Dear god, i never thought that the lore of the GTA series was so detailed like that

[@hotboy1303]

I can't wait to finish this video