The Strange History of PAPA ROACH

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

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[@ShoelessJP]

Get that bag, king.

[@thedivineline8277]

Is it physically impossible for you to make a video about a woman?

[@Echo3_]

dig the Emmure shirt!

[@joshpetrie8982]

Fun fact: Papa Roach also did a song with the Black Eyed Peas, it’s called “Anxiety” and it’s on the Elephunk album and speaks on mental health as well. It’s also such a crazy collaboration no one would ever see coming

[@real30yearoldboomerhours53]

I heard that on the radio back in 03 when I was 11. I absolutely loved that song. I went to the record store and sampled the rest of that BEP album….boy was I confused lol.

[@trevorburhans5846]

Such a good song!

[@virginielekiwi]

one of my favourite BEP's song

[@Weather_Nerd]

Amazing song! I first heard it on MX vs ATV idk first or second game, I think it was anyway. Or ATV Offroad Fury lol either way track remains a banger

[@coopertimbs-poke3062]

MX vs. ATV Unleashed. This would have been the first time i ever heard both these artists​@@Weather_Nerd

[@MullilluM]

If someone in 2001 had told me that Papa Roach would still be one of the biggest rock bands in 2024, I wouldve told that person. "Uuuh, okay" and walked away with my Sobe juice.

[@TikkiNikki]

*in a glass bottle

[@desertraider8628]

Wow sobes ,those were so good

[@JoSeF...]

🦎

[@mr.onethirtyeight5088]

@@desertraider8628 - They really were!

[@Im-not-clever]

Listening to Harry Potter on your iPod lol

[@Pewpewpew182]

I went to the spike tv video games award show back in the mid 2000s (I was 16 I think). A lot of the celebrities there didn’t want to be bothered. When Jacoby walked by I held out my hand and went “wooooot!”. He gave me a high five and asked me “How you doing dude? Enjoying the show?” I froze and was kinda taken aback, I didn’t expect him to acknowledge me at all since most of the celebrities were pretty cold that evening. I simply replied “i’m having a great time! Thanks for asking, I loved Getting away with murder”. He gave me a fist bump and told me to have a great day. I’ll never forget how chill he was and it made me appreciate them so much more just for that simple act of kindness 😂l

[@ShoelessJP]

Love the story.

[@Pewpewpew182]

@@ShoelessJP 🙏

[@ReanuKeaves1]

What celebrities were being cold?

[@Pewpewpew182]

@@ReanuKeaves1 Snoop Dog, Tony Hawk, Xzibit, some of the cast from Grandma’s Boy and 50 cent from what I can remember. So it was an interesting to be ignored/swatted away from everyone but Jacoby.

[@GoRideChannel]

@@Pewpewpew182 I went with my little brother to see them at Slim's in SF some time around 2002 (?). I have to second that Jacoby is an incredibly nice guy. My brother was a huge fan and waited after the show to meet them and get autographs. These guys were exceptionally laid back and gracious. They were doing voicemails on people's phones, and even offered to re-do one which included profanity when the owner of said phone wondered out loud how his friends from church would react. I went through a period of my life where I dated the friend of a promoter, and loaded in and out dozens of artists, none were as nice as these guys.

[@NORMUNDY]

We met Jacoby in the interview tent at a fest we performed at in 2022 and he is one of the most down to Earth dudes. He came up to our table of his own volition, introduced himself, followed our Spotify, and thanked us for the talk. Childhood dream = made. Awesome guy!

[@tr1co0]

This is so wonderful. Happy for you that you met a hero and they actually lived up to, or even exceeded expectations! Also happy for Jacoby that he is living his life in such a kind and generous manner, as I imagine fame makes it hard to do that. A true win-win.

[@ZackSeifMusic]

Straight up some of the nicest and most humble dudes ever. They give a lot of money to charities and support alot of mental health causes. Their live show is also amazing. Seen them twice and it's such a feel good show. Plus the riffs are sick.

[@Frederick0220]

I can vouch for this. Briefly met Jacoby Shaddix walking around downtown Chicago last Summer. Very nice guy

[@krisratliff3157]

The truly seem like normal down to earth guys. The stuff they post on socials and the fan interactions always have this genuine feel

[@nicholassimon1419]

Great, and I’m sure old, joke I heard recently: Baby Roach: Daddy, what happens if the humans spray us with Raid? Papa Roach: Suffocation, no breathing.

[@meowmasterL346]

No more comments on this video folks, this guy won ^ 😂😂

[@YouTubenostalgia914]

Papa Roach is the kind of music that you can hear a song twice, and know by heart. I actually really like that about them

[@johnkrstyen]

I only know one song of theirs and thought they disappeared after that.

[@YouTubenostalgia914]

@@johnkrstyen Oh.

[@Vidandric]

I still remember being in middle school and my English teacher (it was he first year teaching, and we are just 2 towns over from Vacaville) was so excited to tell us how her friends band was going to be on MTV and TRL. We were like Suuurrreeee. 2 weeks later, Last resort debuted and they exploded. She was easily the coolest teacher after that 😂

[@spfadden082711]

My math teacher said she was friends with Johnny Knoxville back in 01 and we all thought she was full of it. She brought in pics and then called him one day. We were wrong. She turned into the coolest teacher for the rest of the year

[@benkendall5562]

I saw them live just before COVID, didn't have the highest of expectations because I kinda forgot about them after Metamorphosis, so didn't know if they still had it but man. One of the best shows I've ever seen, incredible energy and stage presence all round!

[@Frederick0220]

I randomly met Jacoby Shaddix last summer in Downtown Chicago. He was walking around with his boo. Very nice guy

[@PurlJam444]

I remember when I was 15 & struggling w depression, it was helpful to see Jacoby being open about being suicidal & I’ve always appreciated & respected him for that. Especially since I literally grew up w their music & they were absolutely a gateway band for me.

[@r.babylon2885]

Between Angels And Insects will forever be my favorite by Papa Roach. You can keep Last Resort.

[@therhinolord6084]

These guys are definitely a check point in every person's musical journey. No matter your thoughts on them rn are they were always a pioneer is this subsection of music

[@drop0ut606]

Finn always finds a way to make a positive or at least reasonable comment about things, even if it's something he personally doesn't like or isn't into. I think it's an attitude the vast majority of the music scene could do with adopting at least in some form.

[@sinta_bique]

what? he literally comes with the worst possible takes in metal just to piss off fans

[@drop0ut606]

@@sinta_bique bro you're the only person I've seen say that

[@sinta_bique]

@@drop0ut606 you need to see his videos about black metal and European bands, then. Not that I'm really complaining about it, it's always entertaining no matter how much I disagree with him.

[@johntylerbrowning4331]

Babe wake up finn mckenty is talking about nu metal

[@S7RauzZz]

I struggle to hear anything nu-metal related from Papa Roach. Why the hell people label them this way? Just because they've toured with Static-X or Limp Bizkit doesn't bring any nu-metal vibe to their music. No bouncy grooves, no dirty/clean vocal contrast, no heavy low tuning etc. It's a solid alt rock/alt metal at it's finest but not nu-metal please

[@Bulsky]

@@S7RauzZzevery band that used electric guitars and vocalist sometimes rapped back then was labeled nu metal just because

[@BuckMaster69]

Who is Finn?

[@t0talimm0rtalz]

@@S7RauzZz because that is LITERALLY the sound of music they make lol at the very least Infest was a nu-metal staple

[@nighthawk9532]

@@S7RauzZz”Infest” is a Nu metal album, same with “love hate” but then they moved on to alt rock/alt metal

[@SupplementalSense]

Infest is still one of my favorite albums ever. It's a non skipper for sure.

[@trevorburhans5846]

I feel like it’s worth mentioning the show Jacoby hosted on MTV called Scarred. Just shows how massive they became

[@blacktide888]

I saw Papa Roach for the first time , when they were touring their album F.E.A.R. It was an incredible show . Definitely became a big fan after that.

[@TikkiNikki]

Papa Roach have been a favorite of mine for years because despite being part of nu metal, Jacoby always seemed like a solid dude (despite his past traumas).

[@dominikaksiazek7177]

"despite being part of nu metal" - wait, is "nu metal" like a negative term now? XD

[@TikkiNikki]

@@dominikaksiazek7177 not negative but that breed of fans were some of the worst people I knew

[@LTKK]

Im so glad I was too young to know/care about other people's music opinions. I koved numetal as a preteen/young teen. Would've been so annoying hearing people dump on it all the time lol. I had no idea it was auch a hated on genere. Numetal will alwaya have a spot on my playlist. Metal fans should thank those bands for being such a good gateway into other metal and rock genres

[@JerisJohnson]

papa roach goated and not enough people talk about it

[@myotismusic5019]

I’ve always liked Papa Roach. I’ve always admired how consistently good their music is.

[@sonton7]

As someone who is also from Vacaville, most of us take immense pride in them being hometown heroes. We’re a relatively small town having just passed 100,00 citizens. Thank you Finn for this, much appreciated ❤

[@kronabus199a]

As someone from the general area, Finns pronunciation made me cringe a bit, but I get it. Like when someone in Sons of Anarchy pronounced Lathrop like it was Bath-rup with a V, lol. Vack-uh-ville, not Vah-cah-ville.

[@ellery.celery]

Back in the early 2000’s I kind of disregarded Papa Roach UNTIL I happened to see them live and man, I was blown away! They are INCREDIBLE live which makes me think that may have also help contribute to their longevity! I ended up becoming a fan and seeing them live a few more time after that with each performance being just as great or better than their last. I haven’t even searched for anything new by them in ages so it’s good to know they have new music out that I’ll have to give a listen to!

[@dgj91]

I love everything Papa Roach. My absolute favorite band. It feels like they grew up with me and they were there at every stage in my life. Corny, yeah. But even with everything they've achieved, I still think they're they're criminally underrated. I hope they never stop making music

[@wolrdsstrongestdrummer]

Crooked Teeth is an absolute banger of an album from start to finish!

[@Boozer13]

P Roach has unironically been one of my favorite bands since 2000 when I was 13. And this is coming from a tried and true metal head. They are just incredible songwriters and reinvent themselves constantly which is what a lot of bands from the nu metal era simply did not do, when the genre died out.

[@ThaFashionAssassin]

When I saw Last Resort on my wife’s playlist it blew my mind and speaks to how popular that song was when we grew up.

[@jmcd21182]

If Last Resort was on my wife's playlist I would divorce her immediately and take her to court for the kids even if we didn't have any.

[@Itsyaboy88]

Haha dude how could that blow one’s mind my grandmother knows that song. It’s a worldwide across the charts classic

[@j0hnniefive862]

@@Itsyaboy88 He makes it sound like his wife grew up in a cult or an Amazonian tribe cut off from the rest of the world. Dunno man

[@noah_drums_official]

Met him when I played HELLFEST last year and he is super nice and genuine. Mad respect

[@noah_drums_official]

@noahtaylordrums ;)

[@askthySev]

ok but why does the mention of papa roach & their journey always makes me tear up thank u for doing this video they mean so much to me

[@cjvilleneuve1566]

These guys are genuine good peoples,you dont see that often in the music industry

[@elManu7one2]

14:14 sounds like you say 2002 not 2022.

[@ElliottMontello]

I caught that too - He definitely does say 2002.

[@SolidTryThough]

Left out of this story is that Papa Roach won a MTV battle of the bands in like 00' down here in san diego. It was at Belmont park down in pacific beach. I remember them distincly at the time because my 10 year old brain was obsessed with anything loud on mtv. Within a few years i couldnt stand them but from what I remember, that is what catapulted them into mtv stardom.

[@beth4378]

Last Resort is still one of my favorite songs. Saw the band play at Ozzfest 2001 along side Linkin Park, Black Sabbath, Slipknot, and MM. Great memories!

[@smurph13]

I didn't go to Ozzfest itself that year but they also did a little offshoot show - maybe even a coinciding full tour I'm not sure - but Papa Roach, Linkin Park, Disturbed, Mudvayne and Slipknot came and played at a small town near me and I went to that. I was 15 and it was my first "real" concert. I'll never forget it for as long as I live. The dopamine hit lasted for days after and it made me want to see as many live shows as I possibly can.

[@johnrhines3473]

I first saw pRoach with my oldest son in 2004, and was absolutely blown away by their energy and how they connected with the audience. I'm 56 and still an enormous pRoach fan and never miss an opportunity to see them and purchase new music!

[@theangelbelow88]

Lovehatetragedy was my favorite album from them, definitely think it was also their darkest album

[@lukemullet]

I've met many bands in my years and Papa Roach (especially the singer) were some of the the nicest people I've met. This was in their early days so fame might have changed them but I'm happy they became successful and are still making money from their music.

[@xXxArcher13xXx]

One of my all time fav bands! I think you nailed it pretty much! I love how they manage to change their sound a bit with every album but still be recognizable as Papa Roach!

[@spfadden082711]

Yeah that’s a good point. You always know it’s them even if they adapt a bit.

[@ekims_echoes]

Some friends from Vacaville turned me on to Papa Roach in 1997 and I saw them play at a community center in Vacaville the next year. I probably paid like five bucks to get in to the show. I was really happy for them with the success of Infest and appreciated the refinement over Old Friends from Young Years. What I've always appreciated was Jacoby's honestly and frankness in the lyrics. Some of the tracks on Crooked Teeth really lean in to this - like Help. That album also felt like a return to their classic form.

[@graydenday3760]

That Old Friends album was in my rotation in high school in the late 90s

[@ekims_echoes]

@@graydenday3760 Early college for me, but yeah. Same. There are some good songs, even with lower production value. I'd love to hear them play Orange Palm Drive live now.

[@graydenday3760]

Singer of this band lives in my neighborhood. I see him all the time. I liked their early stuff quite a bit though.

[@Wailmur]

That's cool

[@TheDirtyKenzo]

Crazy how my opinion on them has changed since 99-2000. Constantly evolving and still killin it. Great video as always Finn 🙏

[@kxchase4195]

Love Papa Roach. Definitely one of my favorites, and they are incredible live.

[@florianneumann9441]

Thanks for the update on papa roach... have to admit i totally haven't keept up with their stuff in a long while. Loved their stuff back in the day, so maybe time to catch up

[@ItsJustMe0585]

I can't remember what concert it was, but ended up seeing papa roach live a few years ago and was super surprised how diverse their music was. I was impressed. :)

[@ardley216]

I never ever got into PR, but every time I cut my pizza..... Yeah you know the line..

[@Madvizion]

I performed Last Resort at a dance club called The Atrium in San Antonio Texas. I got a standing ovation. It was awesome.

[@abedekok322]

I will never forget singing last resort in PE with the older kids from 5th grade, even cooler is that I got to see them live a few years later in 2009. Love Jakoby's energy

[@Jdmitchell099]

Best part of the video is the pose on top of the Helix mattress. 😂

[@DadBigE]

I love your work, Finn...do the Type O breakdown. They are pretty special. Yes, I'm biased but not wrong.

[@rafisanders]

Fear is probably my favorite album

[@mikolaj6067]

The history of these big underrated bands is my favorite series on your chanel. Hope that one day you will do a video like that on Architects

[@DarthPhillius]

Love your stuff buddy. Great video. I've been a massive fan of Papa Roach from the start and feel like the 4 album run between Ingest and Paramore Sessions is god tier. It's great that they get recognised for constantly reinventing themselves. Very few bands managed to do that and stick the landing.

[@Vaisin]

Saw Papa Roach live in February 2020. It was amazing, they kill it onstage.

[@Wailmur]

Right before covid

[@Vaisin]

@@Wailmur Yup

[@DucciVinci]

Infest, The Paramour Sessions, Crooked Teeth and Egotrip are all 9/10 albums for me. Can't think of any other band that has four albums in that category tbh

[@chadhenry961]

@3:42 the heaviest thing papa roach has ever done is the song domination with Kayzo & sullivan king, though some might say it doesn't count cause its a collaboration

[@donnyyasu2764]

I always liked Papa Roach but stopped listening after the first 4 albums. Not sure why, but just stopped following for some reason. Rediscovered them last year after seeing them live. LOVE so much of the things I missed. They also put on a hell of a show.

[@chernobylcoleslaw6698]

Once again I watch/listen to a Finn video on a band I could not care less about. ❤

[@chernobylcoleslaw6698]

Quality work is quality work.

[@thehightower5579]

Great live shows, and from the release schedule demonstrating what consistency and hard work gets you

[@johnnylawrence9686]

P Roach has always been one of my favorites with Infest being in my Top 5 Albums That Changed My Life. As a fatherless child, Jacoby's words really pierced and the topics were pretty extreme for a 1st grader to be listening to and understanding. Jacoby gave his life to Christ in 2014 which is so awesome that we share the same spirituality. They are the most nu metal butt rock that isn't a nu metal butt rock band around haha

[@nighthawk9532]

Found so many bands because of Papa Roach and introduced me to the whole Nu metal thing with their album “infest”

[@Zomer2003]

Saw them live about 5 or 6 times. Amazing energy! Even if I can't say that in into the latest stuff I will definitely go to the next show when they start touring!

[@tylertrachy8711]

Yes finally! It's here. Huge PRoach fan and have been waiting for you to show them some love. Thank you.

[@leileyaravencroft]

That song truly represented a generation, didn’t it? Although, I do love “Last Resort”, I have to give love to “Broken Home”, “She Loves Me Not”, “Time and Time Again”, “Getting Away With Murder”. Another song I love but this one Jacoby was featured in was the remix of “Wolf Totem” by Hu. That was pretty awesome too.

[@Caffeine_Club]

Jacoby's feature on Hollywood Undead's 'Heart of a Champion' redux is 🔥

[@edschobs5204]

Yes, love that version. Even though Hollywood undead kinda fell off for me. Besides a few songs here and there, I haven’t liked much of what they’ve done since “swan songs”

[@Man-st1pc]

​@@edschobs5204 You should really check out Hotel Kalifornia. It has a lot of good songs such as chaos or world war me

[@JustJoshLTRB]

Long overdue. Been quietly hoping for this one for a long time. Thanks dude.

[@YokiBrewster]

Last resort came out at the perfect time and hit SO HARD back then, sheesh!

[@Galactic_rats]

I completely forgot how many absolute bangers they had. I haven’t listened to any new stuff since maybe 2010 but hearing some to those 2000-2010 songs for the first time in like 10/15 years I know almost all the lyrics. I need to listen to there newer stuff as I like the sound of it.

[@killercameo2091]

I listened to two of their albums, did my vocal lessons to them, and now a video of them pops up on my feed? I have Papa Roach on the brain and KZbin knows it

[@robbieramirez6704]

Three Oaks Community Center Vacaville CA. $3 and so many bands. Miss those days! Vacaville legends

[@imaginarycreatures9760]

I remember seeing Papa Roach at a local music festival in Sacramento in the mid-90's. They played at like 2 in the afternoon, so the audience was pretty small, maybe a few dozen people, but the band (especially Jacoby) seemed so happy for anyone that was willing to show up. At that point, they weren't exactly "good", but I still couldn't help but root for them. Obviously, they got better, but it's always seemed like that enthusiasm has stayed with them as well. I'm glad they've stood the test of time.

[@TrophyDad117]

They have been my favorite band since 6th grade (year 2000). Not necessarily because of their music but their live performance and the few times I have gotten to meet them. They really do seem to care about their fans and will always take a moment to chat if you catch them. And as stated their live shows are some of the most energetic. You can tell they feed off the crowd and love it when they could just be getting up there to play a few singles and take your money. It’s going to suck when they do hang it up but it’s been a hell of a ride and I can’t wait to hear what comes next.

[@DadCore]

I love PR. That band has been there for me ever since Last Resort hit the radio my 8th grade year. So many songs that are just what you need to find that small light to pull you through a spell of darkness. I’ll always support this band.

[@brycepeschel627]

This is best video I’ve seen here for a while! (The others are great) just this one was awesome! I love P roach and feel they are very under rated! You nailed all the albums! “The connection” is one of my favorite albums of all time. Their live show is 10/10. “Ego trip” is a crazy good album. Well done Finn. Loved this one!

[@valdenay7264]

Im surprised you didnt sample single Ego Trip for the album because that is a banger. Or that in addition to having people be featured on Papa Roach songs, Jacoby was featured on a bunch of other's songs.

[@kristiemarsh49]

Great video ❤I saw Papa Roach once in ‘98 or ‘99 at a very small club called The Cocodrie(rip) in SF(my 2nd home for almost a decade ❤)They had TONS of local support .Glad to see they are still doing their thing 🎉

[@surfingthedarkness]

Saw them live last year at a Metalcore/Hardcore festival and it was soooo friggin good! Jacoby is awesome.

[@carolinaalves5518]

I loved them since last resort, saw them last year live at a festival and they were so freaking good!!!! the best live band i've seen in a long time!

[@blacktide888]

I saw Papa Roach for the first time , when they were touring their album F.E.A.R. It was an incredible show . Definitely became a big fan after that. I also used to play Tony Hawk pro skater 2 a lot as a kid, so I found out about the band through that game .

[@terriblecertainity]

I was genuinely shocked when I found out last year that they are still around. I never heard off them after " last resort" and always considered them a one hit wonder

[@Trevorhollis21]

I would also like to point out the fact that they managed to have 4 No. 1 singles off their 2022 album Ego Trip 🤘

[@jewpac88]

Lead of papa roach just fully seems like the coolest dude, even that deal where he stayed and sang with Brent Smith on a bench because festival was canceled...

[@roele2413]

To me their live performances are a very important part of their success. As an example: I saw them live at a festival with big metalcore and deathcore bands and I thought Jacoby was the best screamer I heard

[@johnritter1083]

I saw them in a tiny bar in Seattle in like '99 and then a fest the year later in WA. But Forever is my favorite song they ever made

[@WinchesterBros666]

I've seen Papa Roach around 4/5 times live now, met Jacoby and the Band after the show everytime. Jacoby and all the Band are absolute Gentlemen, take the time with the Fans, Talk away to you for easily 10-20mins and are happy to autograph/take Pictures. I've loved them since i was around 6 years old (near 19 Years) I'll forever and always go to their shows and continue being one of their Biggest Fans in Scotland. Absolutely one of the best bands to date. Good Music, Great Live Shows and All Round Good Guys 🤘🏻

[@georgthesecond]

I've listened to Papa Roach quite a lot back in late 2000s - early 2010s, even saw them live in my (unknown to most foreigners) city in Russia. I haven't listened to them much lately and definitely slept on their releases after The Connection. This video made me want to revisit their "newer" stuff, thank you, Finn.

[@markcrane1984]

On top of that I met Jacoby in Manchester before a gig and he was such a great guy. Took time to talk to us and genuinely seemed interested in what we were saying

[@OffLeatherWings]

Metamorphosis was my favorite album from them. It was when I was just getting into hard rock music and it was the cool album amongst all my friends. One of my friends even burn the album twice and gave me a copy.

[@gasmaskestore8018]

Orange Drive Palms riff is GOD Tier

[@livierae95]

I got into Papa Roach when I knew we'd be seeing them coheadline with Falling In Reverse. Somehow, I'd gone my whole 28 years never having heard them but still knew the words to Last Resort upon first listen because that song is so iconic. They've since become one of my favorite bands. Jacoby is such a sweet guy, and they were so much fun and incredible live. I spent their whole set singing my heart out with a huge smile on my face. They have such positive, contagious energy, and Jacoby's heart for Jesus shines so brightly through him.

[@ShoelessJP]

Papa Roach are legends, I absolutely love their TikTok account. They seme like super cool guys!

[@Joeyjoejoe1708]

Papa Roach is one of my all-time favourite bands. F.E.A.R. is one of all-time favourite records, simply amazing and highly underrated.

[@rkprodzZz]

My long time favorite band🤘

[@skabcat242]

As someone who lived in Sacramento, Ca. Papa Roach played a lot of locals shows back in the day. It blew my mind when "last resort" was on mtv.

[@thegeeklabyrinth]

The Connection is one of my favorite albums from them. At least from their more rock period. Very solid and consistent. Much better than Metamorphosis or Fear

[@00CooG00]

I swear to god I was just thinking yesterday that you should do a paparoach episode...

[@thirdsouthobbi]

Their music literally helped save my life. I was 15 when Last Resort came out.

[@XxmetalHeadxX88]

The song "Never Enough" got me into Papa Roach. That song is in Gran Turismo 3.

[@x0b34rd4]

Waaaaaaaaay better than "just a Wikipedia summary" could ever be. Great video, Finn As someone relatively new to genres outside of bass music, I always enjoy and appreciate you talking about these bands and artists that I've heard so much about and yet never took the time to learn about or listen to

[@seanwatkins2785]

I wasn’t into them because of my hardcore kid mentality back then, until they took my buddies’ band, Not Waving But Drowning, on tour with them. Jacoby wore their shirt on thr cover of Spin, too. Much respect for that, and I lightened up.