MOST HATED BANDS VOL 3: Five Finger Death Punch, Millionaires, Design The Skyline

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

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[@gore7027]

Can we get a video on how underrated the band lower definition was idk why they were amazing

[@codyank6050]

Can you do a video on how chelsea grin got so big ?

[@stormxlr2377]

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[@HeavyMetalGamer78]

@@stormxlr2377 Literally about to comment the same thing. Then they are just pushing it under the rug making it seem like it wasn't anything important

[@axlaonos13]

@@stormxlr2377 nord was hacked some time ago. We just found out about it

[@TheDigibait]

Personally I appreciate you being respectful when analysing the music

[@HippyMetalhead]

Yes I agree. You should see the video he posted about black metal. Lots of people got mad. Yet he was actually respectful

[@bradhuff5131]

Yeah I like how he does the commentary with as little bias as possible but when he does talk about his own bias he makes sure it's know that that's just his personal preference/opinion

[@CarInMyAss]

I agree. It's how you know he's not full of shit

[@atlys258]

He really does critique and analyze from an outside perspective. I'm personally not into 5FDP and most of it has to do with the vocal styling, just doesn't do anything for me. They're definitely skilled musicians, but I've never been able to connect with them.

[@summability]

That's what keeps me coming back to these videos. They've given me more than one thing to think about.

[@colemarie9262]

"Military-Wife-Metal" HOLY HELL THE ACCURACY

[@TerminalKitty]

Dependa-metal

[@elmSTREETnasty]

@@TerminalKitty Getting pounded by Jody metal

[@TerminalKitty]

@@elmSTREETnasty fuck, ok you win.

[@mastervaderm16]

The first time I heard the band for the first time was in basic training lol

[@elmSTREETnasty]

@@TerminalKitty The real winner is the guy who gets out with no dependa, no alimony and no child support.

[@nonyabeeznuss304]

I was a Marine Infantryman, and atleast in my unit, FFDP was considered something tryhards and POGs listened to. Military units are hugeley diverse, so there really wasn't any one genre everybody listened to, but as for metal Lamb of God was pretty popular among the grunts who liked metal. The fact they were anti-war didn't really bother us. War IS fuckin stupid, and we wanted to go home.

[@jamesharden9565]

BREEKI BRO my dad was in the gulf war and when they would go on patrol they blasted Pain killer, Slayer, and corrosion of conformity

[@DiamorphineDeath]

Seasons in the abyss would have been the go to album cruising through the gulf. I’ve always associated that album with that conflict, their video for war ensemble was about as desert war tinged as it could get.

[@ag11b69]

Former 11B (Army infantry for those that aren't familiar). I honestly never heard of FFDP until the newer guys started coming in after deployment in 07-08. But like the original comment, my unit listened to pretty much everything. Among the metal heads, it was mostly Death and similar bands. I was always more partial to 80s stuff like Suicidal tendencies, metallica, iron maiden. The bro metal of my generation in the military was disturbed.

[@nonyabeeznuss304]

@@ag11b69 Oh yeah, lol, forgot about disturbed. I think I heard down with the sickness and 10,000 fists played on repeat until my ears bled.

[@nonyabeeznuss304]

@@user-oi8cj9gc4o 1/7 Weapons Co.

[@suspicioususer]

FFDP album covers look like those facebook memes that wannabe boomer bikers share that usually have some caption like "Sometimes I gotta let my inner demons out to play"

[@Cherrycokesam]

Brandon Michaels funny story about that. One of the album covers (forgot which one, it had the reaper with the dual pistols) was literally my lock screen in middle school with like “DON’T TOUCH MY PHONE” on it. They literally just plastered their skull logo on the face lmao

[@suspicioususer]

@@Cherrycokesam I think it might be And Justice For None

[@Cherrycokesam]

Brandon Michaels pretty sure it was. When I saw it I couldn’t believe it lol. Like woooowww. I mean I still like em but I can’t help but feel like it’s baby’s first metal band

[@benjaminschoop1123]

Dude the only thing missing is a despicable me minion!

[@dougyoungman4191]

Hahahaha

[@nikkolaspaulfragrances]

DUDE, I'm such a big fan of your open minded thinking. You do something that is VERY hard for most people. And that's give a level headed, open minded view on a topic that almost everyone is passionate and emotional about. Good shit. Love your channel. SUBSCRIBED.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Thanks man!

[@zaprianaatanassova8696]

The Millionaires bring back so many memories from parties in high school lol! They were fun, trashy and symbolized a crazy party atmosphere that a lot of teen girls are secretly after- especially at a time when it was still pretty taboo for female artists to be so explicit about sex, drinking and drugs. Also, I feel like if they were still around today, their music would be viral on TikTok.

[@gatitoburrito898]

Well you where correct, its pretty popular on the "alt" side currently!

[@jinkieez]

literally any OG scene band would be popular on tiktok if it came out today. and a lot of that shit was def trashy.... but at least people would see the fun in it

[@Samzillah]

Yep they would 100% fit right in with Hyperpop girlies

[@velveteenrab1d]

They got viral anyway and now have a tiktok fanbase Now that I think about it, most of the artists that were criticized now have quite large tiktok fanbases.

[@terriblecertainity]

I legit never heard of Millionaires and Design The Skyline

[@manbird2184]

I wish I was as innocent as you

[@Westcoasttrendkill]

Your one of the lucky ones. I had the distinct honor of seeing The Millionaires open for I am Ghost back in the 07'. Only thing to say was i wanted my 45 mins of life back.

[@LiquidDIO]

Ditto, but I was also legit out of the scene by then, and stayed out until recently.

[@shelbygee6283]

You must be really young lol

[@terriblecertainity]

@@shelbygee6283 no, this " scene" stuff just never interested me

[@horzhrw]

Confession: every payday when I'm alone in my car, I jam "Just Got Paid, Let's Get Laid" by Millionaires at least one time through.

[@lazerwulv]

SAME

[@D2MightyDucks]

I listened to that song maybe once or twice YEARS ago, and it's been stuck in my head ever since! And I don't think I've listened to it since.

[@DBL304]

That song is honestly lowkey a bop

[@thekredyard7577]

You are not alone. I'll play alcohol on Fridays at work

[@DaijaWatson]

I love the song weekend remix ft Kyle Lucas by the millionaires.

[@heymattm2245]

The first album of Millionaires it would be better if it called: The Shape Of Pop To Come. They're ahead of the curve.

[@randerins]

Nobody: Random guy: this car is like punk rock!

[@briankerrigan3529]

R B. If he added “but different,” it would have been stellar.

[@ladydontekno]

lol "random guy" is Jeremy Davies from Lost and Justified!

[@FuzzImp]

Those Millionaires songs slap. Unironically, there’s something to be said about trashy party music. Actually, any tunes you can throw on the aux while driving with a group of friends to a club, show, whatever that have a fun vibe will always rule over elitist musicality. The problem for a lot of gatekeepers and highly technically accomplished musicians and bands is they see anyone with more success as a threat or a joke at times. Not to say creating well crafted tunes with extreme musicianship isn’t to be encouraged but something a normie can bang their head to, without thinking about how perfectly executed the 2 triggered kicks at 240 bpm or 16th note sweeps mixed with tapping will always be more successful. I don’t hate any of these bands, and I see why they had some success. I liked your take on factions and how aligning to a group helps build a fan base. Great content as always. Thanks man!

[@emilyelizabeth4365]

I agree with this! Not every kind of music needs to be "good". Sometimes it's fun to listen to trashy music when getting ready for a show or party. Gets me amped up hahaha

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Well said

[@cole5728]

So I worked at a restaurant as a cook and everyone in the back of the house was into metal. All of them HATED ffdp, except me, and yet all of them admitted they had at least one ffdp song they loved. Just goes to prove your point that they objectively have some good talent. Love your videos btw.

[@absolutelamb262]

I’ve noticed that to be the case a lot of the times. Even artist you don’t particularly like have songs that you’ll like

[@franciscoenriquez238]

The only thing that makes me cringe is how these "critics" tried so hard to imitate the way the angry video game nerd talks

[@TheJollyMisanthrope]

You expect originality on KZbin? Even this channel has a rather cut and paste intro. section.

[@leetfukk]

@@TheJollyMisanthrope lmao every time I hear the intro I hear "STICK TO THE SCRIPT. STICK TO THE SCRIPT." Still love the content though and I hope if Punk Rock MBA sees this comment he laughs too

[@franciscoenriquez238]

@@TheJollyMisanthrope originality? It exists neither on youtube nor on any other media my friend, i just wanted to point out the dumb trend of angry reviews from back then, especially rock/metal angry reviews

[@nikolakrastev8880]

Bluemagus is cool though.

[@kznovak]

I feel like Five Finger Death Punch & Kid Rock have quite an overlap in fanbase.

[@D2MightyDucks]

Their venn diagram is basically ONE circle 🤣

[@relyksdjoser6429]

Let's add in Ted Nugent for fun

[@matthewramroop]

You think lol

[@silverglove2012]

Don't forget nickleback

[@kznovak]

@@silverglove2012 Come on, do we really need to diss Nickelback anymore.

[@kylespade5958]

Sir, I drive a Ram 2500 and I prefer Black coffee. Thanks for the shout out though.

[@mattcossel29]

Lemme guess.. Black Rifle Coffee Company? Just kidding 🤣

[@kylespade5958]

@@mattcossel29 Lol, it's alright. If I had to pick I'd go with Tim Hortons, followed by Pete's.

[@KommanderHooyah]

I am a Kyle in the military who occasionally drinks Monster, but I prefer black metal.

[@iflase5823]

Yeckio?

[@SepSyn]

I recomend white ward if you haven't heard them yet.

[@larvaedadindex]

Hell yeah brother

[@KommanderHooyah]

IFlase I cannot say that is me.

[@Zimx02]

Most likely NSBM

[@AshStGreen]

This is one of the best music channels to come out in the last 5 years. Thanks for keeping it real always Finn -

[@Autom4tic]

“Millionaires walked so Kesha could fly”

[@ryanwilson8530]

Hahahahahaha omfg

[@xxstellastarlightxx9284]

agreed I love the millionaires

[@maxpalmer3212]

Millionaires > Kesha

[@randombuilds8336]

I spent 8 years in the army, FFDP never got much love in any of my units. They mostly got made fun of, and had a song or 2 that anyone would say was decent. So even in the military they aren't universally liked.

[@jackson2308]

As a Marine I can confirm. However, the free shows they play on base make for a pretty good weekend.

[@maxonmendel5757]

what about Rise Against? just curious

[@randombuilds8336]

@@maxonmendel5757 more people liked them than FFDP. I thought they had a few decent songs, but don't like a majority of it. They really got a bunch of hate when they had the hero of war song come out, most guys thought it was dumb especially since none of them have done more than drive past a base.

[@codyplaysthedrums11]

Random builds lmao dude the army is different now anytime heavier music comes up FFDP comes us in conversation as being a “heavy” band. I absolutely hate this band.

[@tylerbeggs1197]

And your speaking for your platoon, or the entire military?

[@RanterInShades]

The guy doing the Design the Skyline rant is actually a friend of mine lol I like 5FDP’s first 3 albums, but after that I feel they’ve become kind of a self parody. Outside of that, I actually think they’re a solid band and never really got a lot of the hate.

[@DarkD33p]

Whats wrong about neon color strings on your guitar? They can look pretty nice.

[@freeecountryy]

Oh boy...

[@DarkD33p]

@@freeecountryy Yeah? Gues, you agree with me there. :D

[@k0nstntcs798]

There will always be some people who will find any surface level “insult” when they’ve nothing better to do with their time.

[@masydoda2546]

I just think it's goofy. But the band should have just been lightly mocked for that.

[@michelg3811]

Right? If people can bleach their skin, dye their hair, buy cars that are any color, paint their nails, then you can use neon strings. Change my mind.

[@TheLamphinator]

Yeah millionaires sucked but us scene dudes from that era had the biggest crushes on all 3 of them lmao

[@CH-ml4rz]

U mean ur not following Allison on IG? Maaaaaaannnnnn

[@D2MightyDucks]

@@CH-ml4rz I just checked her out on Instagram and damn 👀👌🏿 She's also been a bit ahead of the curve, using it to shill fitness products since what, 2013? 2012 maybe?

[@CH-ml4rz]

Shes a recurring meme in our SYWH alum groupchat

[@Jorgetime]

high key super hot, raunchy confident girls are my weakness for some reason.

[@bennyfrank8755]

Your not wrong

[@patpatpat]

Military Wife Metal is the funniest shit I've ever heard

[@ilijaantic272]

I'm gonna be honest. I love FFDP, I never watched their music videos, never looked too much into album covers, I just listened to their music. They are actually the band that introduced me to metal.

[@chxrl5067]

Please do Babymetal. Nothing riles up metalheads more than two young girls.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

They sure do hate young women, don’t they?

[@witeshade]

@@ThePunkRockMBA I was actually under the impression that Babymetal was actually pretty well regarded in the scene, moreso than you would expect, which is weird because it is the kind of manufactured soulless corporate production that metal people should despise, fronted by two girl that didn't even know what metal was until their manager was like "you're doing this now". Yet people dig it.

[@aneveningwithebola2727]

@@witeshade Oh trust me there's enough Trve metalheads who hate Babymetal for that exact reason. Gotta go digging for them (or, in my case meet them on guitar forums) but they exist.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

@@witeshade That is a good point too

[@relyksdjoser6429]

They're just pissy that 3 Japanese tween girls go harder than most of what they listen to. Ive also heard some people complaining about not being able to understand due to the language difference but yet rammstein is their favorite band lol

[@hunterstandard3444]

Guy at the beginning looked like Aria Stark with as a guy.

[@ThjyuGaming]

Also on speed

[@Existence_denied]

Its bluemagus

[@Chad_Thundercock_III]

@@Existence_denied it's Ivan moody

[@benjaminschoop1123]

I thought that was Mitchell Davis after a year long government fearing, drinking piss, meth bender

[@djkurse9209]

I noticed that lol I was like is that Arya stark actress

[@michaellorah9051]

FFDP is the Axe Body Spray of "metal" bands

[@ryanwilson8530]

Hahabahahahahah I'm a knuckle head and I love this

[@prg1982]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@griff4277]

7:05, geez I never knew Maisie Williams hated Design The Skyline so much.

[@BagOCheetos]

I thought the exact same thing and thought for half a second I clicked on the wrong video.

[@ProSynyster]

😂😂😂 first thing that came to mind also!

[@TheJollyMisanthrope]

Maybe they were responsible for the Season 8 leaks.

[@briankreitner1873]

The problem with Five Finger isn't that they are patriotic but that they pander to folks patriotism. You'll find a lot more Call of Duty bros and paintball warriors and rejects from the police academy at their shows than actual members of the military. I'm from Missouri and those "Thin blue line"and "Support of Troops" banners play big out here. It's propogandrock at its best{worst}.

[@xWintry666x]

No worse or better than any antifa acab stuff

[@thomasc.5219]

@@xWintry666x k dude

[@briankreitner1873]

@@xWintry666x Can you give an example of a band that panders to ACAB or Antifa? I don't think I've ever heard one.

[@ryanoconnor7508]

Fair and i can't name 3 five finger songs but on the opposite side was reading an interview with the singer of social distortion and they have a song every show where they yell "if you're a racist then you're not welcome here and get the fuck out", do they think there are clan members going to social distortion shows? I think these sort of legacy acts just pander and that's how it is.

[@curt15c00l]

I’m from Missouri too!

[@angelicatrudgen8859]

"Wrong side of heaven" ffdp is literally my favorite song... makes me sad people hate them I absolutely love them! :(

[@baetovenbeats]

Nelly ToXic they’re so corny

[@patrickburton1401]

That’s the lamest damn song lol but I also enjoy lame songs. Personally enjoying music is different than objectifying it. There’s nothing wrong with it.

[@xVDRx]

Is your boyfriend or husband in the military by any chance?

[@angelicatrudgen8859]

I grew up millitary. I like the song. Judge if you want but they are one of my favorites.

[@done1675]

When you get older your tastes will change and mature. I thought The Village People and KC and The Sunshine Band were awesome when I was a kid........

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

Design the Skyline was like if I Set My Friends On Fire was an experimental mathcore band.

[@14vatochongo]

HAHAHA thank you I needed a good laugh this morning

[@davidholmes3619]

Design the Skyline's main appeal was that none of them were ever playing the same song at any given time. They're like a scenecore Slipknot with schizophrenia.

[@yungpo1989]

facts

[@oops6876]

There’s so much more to math than just playing the most random terrible shit. lol

[@riv6580]

Quentin Childs check out their shit before design the skyline, extra large kids, much more mathcore/experimental type shit

[@grimmortal]

00:00 Arya Stark does metal band reviews now?

[@whosaidthat84]

I thought the same shit! He looks like a metal lesbian Arya Stark!

[@nlog7476]

Damn I just wanted to say the same thing but i knew there was already a comment about her

[@MassacreVegan]

Millionaires were punk af. I used to unironically listen to them a lot when I was younger. Their message was very riot grrl in a lot of ways.

[@sailormagic13]

Periodt I love them I listened to them towards the end of their popularity but still

[@mitchellbrubaker2652]

Five finger death punch is Great Value Metal.

[@closinginonclosure]

*Five Finger Discount Most of their singles are covers

[@alejandroramirez4470]

their name alone feels amateurish

[@AGFuzzyPancake]

It's not outstanding. It's not bad. But it does its job well enough.

[@balintsloboda7651]

@@closinginonclosure are they? I checked it and the first cover on the list is 8th (Bad company) and that is the only one in the top 10 list.

[@FunkMastaMegaFlex]

Lol. That is a good way to put it.

[@dalenewberry4610]

Also about FFDP, after seeing the documentary “Hired Gun” I gained a huge amount of respect for guitarist Jason Hook. Highly recommended documentary.

[@krymera666x7]

Dale Newberry awesome doc for certain

[@zachdiamond9126]

Back in high school FFDP was the band that took me from rock and brought me into metal. I don't listen to them anymore I mostly listen to thrash, metalcore and deathcore but I give FFDP the credit for getting me into something new

[@sv1nt0]

I've Always liked ffdp and when i first heard about all the hate they got, i could'nt understand it... then again i'm not from the US, i Think that's part of it

[@moonman908]

Liberals hate 5FDP because they support the military.

[@patrickprice1886]

@@moonman908 stop. They are hated because they are a glorified cover band that uses the military as a marketing ploy.

[@ddcs0s]

The American metal culture has become extremely political and 5FDP falls on the wrong side of it Also 5FDP was very popular with members of the military long before they started marketing towards that crowd because it's the type of music that you want to listen to when your pumped up this idea that they used the military to ride their way to fame is retarded they just noticed that those were the people who more often than not enjoyed their stuff while everyone else was shitting on them so they said fuck it and gave their actual fans what they wanted I love them but I'm exactly what you'd think their American fan base looks like I dip I drink whiskey I love guns I'm a big bald bearded white country boy who grew up on bands like Pantera and when I was living in Cali it was made very clear that guys like me weren't welcome in the more normal metal community so when someone did something different I went that way and this is a very common theme with 5FDP fans ... Lots of metal misfits who don't fit in with the typical left leaning crowd

[@suspicioususer]

@@ddcs0s not really a ffdp fan but agree that the metal community generally leans left. I remember when Obituary made people freak out because one of their shirts featured a Confederate battle flag

[@ddcs0s]

@@suspicioususer I have a replica of one of dimebags guitars (I'm sure you can geuss which one) and it definitely gets a reaction that being said he's one of my absolute favorite musicians ever so screw em but stuff like that doesn't sit well with the mainstream metal community

[@WinkyDink]

Dude, your opinion and insights are always so spot on!

[@Jeremy-hx7zj]

he does but at the same time he has this whole, "haha, you have values or ideals and dislike bands that are the opposite of that, you fucking snarky hipster" thing that gets kind of annoying when you binge watch these videos

[@Karl_Marksman]

@@Jeremy-hx7zj Totally agree. It's basically country kids hating on city kids and vice versa. The whole us vs them attitude is elitist and stupid either way.

[@subasjjones]

Being a veteran FFDP was so over played I couldn’t escape that derivative music every song sounded the same. They became an industry constructed band after their first album. And yes the dudes in the military that love this band are typically names like johnathan or Kyle that are so full of red white and blue that would fight you if you didn’t love FFDP. I hate the band. But I do appreciate everything they have done for our military. They are true when they say they love and support our troops

[@slothjolly8075]

Subas Stevens well that’s good. My comment posted says how the best thing would be a metal band that is made up of actual army peeps that is as popular as FFDP, but so long as they are truthfully supportive of the military that’s cool

[@slothjolly8075]

Btw Ivan got his start in Motograter and very few peeps I’m betting will know that.

[@chickrepelant]

any of them serve? just curious.

[@Privatepyle69]

I've met so many people named Julian that love ffdp

[@slothjolly8075]

@@Privatepyle69 ok this is irrelevant but your youtube name rocks

[@moonboogien8908]

"This car.... Is PUNK ROCK!" I think I said that about my first car after I put Fugazi, shelter, and descendants stickers all over it. I miss the 90's.... *sad boomer noises*

[@zdoggzero6595]

(Sips sugar free monster)

[@mr.onethirtyeight5088]

Your not a boomer if you were that age in the nineties ... Then again I gradeeaattedd in 2004 so what do I know?

[@Amateur0Visionary]

@@mr.onethirtyeight5088 Well, you aparently at least know what a boomer isn't, so congrats for that. That makes you more informed than about 80% of yt commenters.

[@TheHeroSaver]

Dude I loved millionaires as a guilty pleasure 😂 also Hollywood undead was right up there hahaa

[@ryanwilson8530]

Hollywood undead is amazing

[@christmasbenoit9336]

5FDP is what plays in kyles' heads when they see a bernie sanders sticker on someones car

[@pandapo7542]

You mean the democrat lapdog?

[@geoffgero6081]

The part about the coastal liberal metal heads hating on Five Finger Death Punch made me feel personally attacked

[@mandykarevicius9746]

"Liberal Metal Heads" has to be an oxymoron.

[@geoffgero6081]

Mandy Karevicius Certainly not, there’s lots of metal bands who espouse far left political views. The whole Cascadian Black Metal scene is radical environmentalists.

[@SirAuronthehonorable]

liberal metal heads dont exist. At least one band has committed one micro-aggression that has started a movement. Better statement would be BEGINNER ROCK LISTENERS.

[@redneck_jesus7863]

@@mandykarevicius9746 Metal can be very liberal. Bands of Rage against the machine and system of a down. While others are very conservative that of five finger death punch and Pantera to some extent. Anyone's views can be added to a metal overlay and it would still be metal.

[@masydoda2546]

Good

[@Gamerfan2000]

I don't care if FFDP is hated. I still love listening to them.

[@feelingevaporated2912]

Gamerfan2000 relevant username

[@jacobreis5076]

Same here. I love listening to Five Finger Death Punch.

[@whataqt7091]

Same, Idk why people dont like them at all. Some of their big songs are covers... But their originals are pretty good. Not a huge fan of their new music tho

[@blackbeard_yvs8707]

Deadass, just listen to the fucking music god damn. People always have to fucking complain, you listen to your music and I'll listen to mine. If you have a fucking preference and you want to ride its fucking dick right off into the fucking sunset, roll credits.

[@midnightgreen8319]

Fuuucccckkkk yooooouuuu douchebag

[@jsig2899]

Thanks to this video, I'm gonna listen to 5fdp while on my way to get a monster and mcdonalds for breakfast

[@absolutelamb262]

BASED

[@uhhhmaeve]

I’ll still stand up for Millionaires as the best of the scene-pop era, “Talk Shit” is low-key one of my favorite songs

[@Jimmylikehalo]

Five finger death punch isnt for everyone but I personally love them

[@adamfarrell6697]

Yeah I played in a band where everyone but me liked FFDP so it got forced my down my throat a lot which makes me resent them a little more than I should. That being said I was never impressed by their image its BEYOND cheesy/cringey and the AA BB/AB AB rhyme schemes are just way too grade-school poetry for me and is ultimately what prevents me from taking them seriously. But I do really appreciate what they do for the troops. That will always be something i can admire.

[@PUNKF001]

The thing that annoys me the most is the extremely basic “tough guy” lyrics, image and attitude. Being ex military makes them more cringey too. Its like their songs are written by the people that say stuff like “you dont wanna piss me off” and comment on stuff saying stuff like “If i woz there i wud av knocked im out” Those people.

[@pudgebonetv9628]

Navy seal copy pasta

[@cherrypopscile3385]

I mean it's cringe, but it's really good work out music. Like I don't particularly like them, but when I'm trying to get ready to run or lift weights I'll put them on.

[@bakstabbath]

FFDP's first two albums were great. They kind of became a parody of themselves after that.

[@sonroof89]

For sure. Their first album is probably still one of my favorite records. And Motogrator was amazing!

[@johnlukis899]

I just found out about Motogrator from a buddy of mine and yes it is quite good. To be fair, I really liked American Capitalist a lot, but after that it has just been meh

[@OldNerdTV]

I feel the same, I actually love War is the Answer, but all of their albums have that one or two songs I appreciate, especially their collab with Rob from Judas Priest.

[@french1991toast22]

Motogrator was sick. And I agree their first 2 albums are their top tier albums forsure

[@bakstabbath]

@@OldNerdTV agreed!

[@seanonthespectrum8724]

Millionaires invented THOTs

[@Pirategod23]

I agree

[@morgueann12]

As a fellow MBA recipient who loves metal, I enjoy your take on different bands from a business and marketing (i.e. target audience) perspective. This is a pretty clever idea for a series. I also love sociology, media, and marketing when it comes to talking about class. I grew up working class and am now trying to reconcile who I am as I reach middle class status...how I differ from those still in that class where I live (Allentown, Pa) and what I still believe in from growing up that way. Keep up the great commentary!

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

I feel you on that! Glad you made it out

[@seangardner1186]

I’d love to hear about the rise and fall of industrial

[@ConvincingPeople]

Sean Gardner The thing about the rise and fall of industrial music to me is it would be more like a series of rises and falls across a few different but related subgenres. Like, with the old-school bands, you can chart the rise from the Prostitution exhibit at the ICA to the peak with Throbbing Gristle's final concert in Los Angeles and the "fall" with Cabaret Voltaire turning into a full-on synth pop band and Peter Christopherson leaving Psychic TV to form Coil, but that's a completely separate narrative from the mainstream influence of electro-industrial/EBM or industrial metal.

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

@@ConvincingPeople I think we’re forgetting about Mick Gordon, he popularised industrial metal quite a lot.

[@divineunreal2719]

FFDP is what started one of my closest friendships.

[@WickedKnightAlbel]

That's actually pretty cool

[@patrickburton1401]

Music doesn’t have to be objectively “good” to enjoy it. It can bring people together. It can bring back memories. Nothing wrong with enjoying it.

[@jovanreid6782]

Friggin' Brad and Chad over here lol.

[@WitchDoktorProductions]

Dude you're amazing. Great take on The Millionaires, and honestly I'd have loved to see you dive into Dani Artaud's work. She was in The Millionaires and she is INCREDIBLY talented. She branched out to form indie-band Mr. Downstairs with Asia Whitacre and later her now incredible edm-pop music known as Snowblood. For artist' growth especially, I think you'll particularly enjoy her

[@TheCivildecay]

The problem with 5 finger deathpunch is that it perfectly represents the (negative) stereotype of the US army for people outside the US (flag waving, gun-toting, alpha-bro's that can't be reasoned with).

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Good point

[@TERMINATOR101-b8j]

FFDP comes off like the lying grunt that claims he was a Ranger/Green Beret/Delta/SEAL when he was just a cook or a driver that went overseas but never saw action. They did their time, but they're exaggerating a whole hell of a lot to look more badass than they deserve to appear.

[@TheGhostPanel]

I don’t even think of military bro’s when I think of them. I think of dudes who fetishizes the military but never actually served. You know, punisher-skull dudes.

[@TheCivildecay]

@@TheGhostPanel voluntary border patrol guys :)

[@TERMINATOR101-b8j]

@@TheGhostPanel good call

[@MetalTrenches]

Well played pointing out the cultural disparity between 5FDP and hipster metal bloggers. Nailed it.

[@beepboop3540]

Im a veteran, and FFDP pandering to the military is absolutely cringy and hilarious. I’ve seen them live a couple of times not by choice, but because I had to sit through their set so I can see the main headliner that went after them and I was kinda bored and rolling my eyes the whole time. I call it butt-rock lol not a fan, not about it at all. Btw “military wife metal” is super spot on! Ugh

[@cgafken]

I was attending Berklee when I discovered Millionaires and I loved it. It along with some other artists gave me an outlet to not always focus on the high brow jazz, Latin, funk and prog music I was focusing on at school. It also inspired me to make really poor quality GarageBand songs with non musician friends while we were at parties which always turned out to be hilarious and definitely gave those people a fun moment to make music even though they don’t play an instrument

[@johndavidson1455]

I saw FFDP in a rock fest in Columbus Ohio and let me tell you. They were REALLY good live. Like, crazy good. Them and Rob Zombie were the best bands of that weekend.

[@livingdeadgurlll]

I saw the millionaires live at warped tour. They were two stages next to each other and they played right after the punk band the Adicts played. I remember the punks flipping them off and the millionaires talking shit back at them. I was honestly there for both band.

[@bigred6137]

“Angry white guy music” describes hardcore too though

[@caffeinatedinsanity2324]

Bad brains ftw

[@absolutedeath_666]

@@caffeinatedinsanity2324 thank you

[@User-54631]

You named .001% of punk bands..a higher percentage of people die taking Tylenol. If you bring up death I’ll give you another .001% of points

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

All depends on where you live... go to a hardcore show in LA and it's a pretty diverse crowd because LA is a diverse place.

[@bigred6137]

The Punk Rock MBA well yeah but it was pretty much birthed from angry white dudes in the first place. I like hardcore and I’m not trying to hate on it, I’m just saying that it could be described that way too. No hard feelings

[@travis8106]

5:44 "This car is like *PUNK ROCK* 😂😂😂

[@deadinsidemcgee411]

Nothing more punk rock than a fucking Toyota right?

[@elcheekoful]

That was freakin hilarious!! I'm gonna look up that comercial

[@antikrista]

Its a fuckin subaru commercial gghh

[@Amateur0Visionary]

"They weren't just being obnoxious, they were painting an image of themsleves being obnoxious."

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Lol

[@Amateur0Visionary]

Aww, thanks man. Just fyi, i got your point. I just thought it sounded funny. Much love.

[@alemãodeca]

Remember when Five Finger Death Punch made a cover of Gone Away - Offspring and everyone pissed off cause they changed the meaning of the music who talk about the loss of someone and made it sounds like is about war and soldiers. I think the hate on them is more political than musical or anything.

[@alemãodeca]

@Lord Kekistan I don't blame them, I hate the army and my country last war was the WW2, I imagine how people from USA feels about. Obviously I won't hate anyone because they support the army but some people don't think that way.

[@NoksUndKutten]

@Lord Kekistan for example just 3 weeks ago a US drone killed 30 farm workers in Afghanistan (and injured 40 more). All of them were civilians. What the fuck does this have to do with any kind of freedom?

[@alemãodeca]

@Lord Kekistan I live in Brasil and man, don't get offended but every dictatorship on Latin America was supported by USA, Osama Bin Laden too.

[@colemarie9262]

Nah.....the music is just not that good. Any song I've heard sounds like some producer had to create a fake band and song for one scene in his movie that takes place at a "metal show". To out it simply- they sound and look like someone who doesn't listen to metal's idea of metal and metalheads......if that makes any sense. No hate, just not my cup of tea. And being from an american military family I can assure you my views at least aren't political.

[@alemãodeca]

@Lord Kekistan Bolsonaro doesn't have one year on the government and our federal court are already thinking about a impeachment, we'll be lucky as fuck if he don't broke our economy (even more actually). Good luck to USA too, they're talking about a impechmeant of Trump too

[@vlffata]

I thought the millionaires were very refreshing at the time. I randomly saw them playing at warped and my sister had me buy her their EP. I loved how unapologetic they were

[@jasonknowlez]

I enjoy your positive spin on every band, even if its not your cup of tea. Too many angry people out there and its nice to see a change of pace.

[@MetalTear]

Everytime I watch one of these videos, I feel like Eddie Brock trying to tear off the Venom symbiote. Like "noooo, my precious haaaate".

[@W1ntermask]

God seriously I can’t describe how much I love this comment.

[@camelcitycycles9651]

Your argument about tribalism is important because it rings true in politics, culture and marketing. FFDP is not my cup of tea but it’s genius marketing.

[@curtisduckworth9748]

You really called my ass out with the part about people who like Design the Skyline also liking Horse the Band, Iwrestledabearonce, and TDTE

[@ohalistair]

Me: FFDP sound like what Hatebreed would sound like if Kyles listened to Hatebreed. Finn, not ten seconds later: FFDP kinda sound like Hatebreed...

[@bisexualmajima]

'Kyles' do listen to Hatebreed though lmao

[@oldworldpatriot8920]

Jamie Jasta collaborated with 5FDP

[@CaH6633]

Kyles definitely listen to Hatebreed. Sure they usually prefer a little Evanescence or Korn but they definitely love Hatebreed too. That's like the trifecta of Kyle bands right there. I feel like Five Finger Death Punch is for like 40 year old men who yell at their kids in public.

[@ionlyreplytosexproposition8972]

My first thought at the beginning was “why is arya stark bitching about a band?”

[@EagDesert]

I was into Design The Skyline's debut, as I've always been into the spaz-core niche and anything that's just really out-there. So it frustrated me when the Internet mobbed them with hate. The band took all of that bashing to heart, and kinda watered themselves down to a more standard metalcore sound later on. Should have just did what the fuck they wanted and owned all the hate. The people that bashed them mostly had no clue what they were hearing, and probably never even heard of Dillinger Escape Plan.

[@EdmundKempersDartboard]

Victory screwed them releasing that song as their first single. They really do have some good tracks.

[@SpookySkeleton738]

Honestly for me it wasn't so much the composition itself as it was the production on the track. Just really flat and overproduced sounding like everything was played by robots while one of them malfunctioned in the corner (the random gameboy noises really didn't help). It's pretty dumb to even put them in the same ballpark as Dillinger, there's a reason nobody was writing hit-pieces on Calculating Infinity and that's because Dillinger did it right the first time.

[@Fleato]

The ffdp hate is definitely just due to their angry "fight me" style type stuff. But yeah I'm a veteran so I love them for sure.

[@jacoblyons79]

Squeek Tate hahahaha. No it’s not. Five Finger Death Punch’s best material is when Ivan isn’t overly obnoxious. Early 5FDP is pretty decent.

[@DragonKnightX12]

Squeek Tate Nah, Ivan has been struggling with alcoholism for a while now. They almost kicked him at one point, and forces him to go get help. that’s why Tommy Vex was singing for them on one tour.

[@twr412]

@Squeek Tate Shut the fuck up, loser.

[@eggwaffle]

Makes sense that a brainless bootlicking moron would have terrible taste in music by default.

[@sal8964]

@Squeek Tate yes okay I hate america because I didn't like to stand up for the pledge of allegiance I'm such a liberal huh, I don't think you understand valid criticisms and only see the side that fox news shows you.

[@jaynoir5727]

For the next video you need to do Hollywood Undead and/or Blood on the Dancefloor. I like HU though, I found it odd at first but it grew on me.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Finn said that he wasn't going to do BOTDF but here's a good video about BOTDF kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXPTh3SQbcucpLc

[@Lollipopmorgue]

I was too old already to get into scene music and emo screamo stuff so I appreciate your channel letting me know what I missed during that era. And what I didn’t!

[@BNA_Est.1988]

I was having a conversation with a co-worker about how much I feel that 5FDP panders to much for my liking. Literally 5 minutes later, another co worker walks into room w/ headphones. I asked him what he's listening to and he says 5FDP. I said "oh." He says "You don't like them?". I said "Not really my thing. I like Metal." He says "but...but....5FDP supports the military." The other co-worker is CRYING from laughter because of what said in our conversation earlier.

[@STARPHASE]

Every time I write the word 'alcohol' I think of that Millionaires song. Like Gwen Stafani and 'Bananas'

[@charleyslaieplays]

My face when he said “Five Finger Death Punch.” 🥺

[@ryanwilson8530]

Don't worry us knuckle heads just laugh at this kind of criticism

[@JDLong-vt9ib]

@@ryanwilson8530 yes

[@bassmaker4real197]

Fellow Knucklehead here as well

[@jesseduszka5353]

Whether it's a conscious decision or not, I feel like FFDP has gone from a band that those bro-metal guys liked with some generic tough guy lyrics, to actually becoming the whole "Kyle" meme as a physical and audible embodiment. They're metal/hard rock for your average WalMart-goer. As for Design the Skyline, if their latest material is what they would've introduced themselves with, they might have actually went somewhere. Instead it felt like they took the "cringier" aspects of Asking Alexandria and Attack Attack, and turned it up to 11. Awesome video though, man. P.S. can we please get a video on "What killed the later 90's - mid 2000's butt rock genre"???

[@veganpower7825]

Don't sleep on those Wal-Mart mosh pits. Especially on the blackest of blackest friday 😆🤣

[@daks8888]

Thanks that description is perfect lol

[@chuckiebobphil]

Dude you couldn’t have summed up five finger Deathpunch any better

[@ConvincingPeople]

Jesse Duszka Stereotypical Wal Mart goer is more accurate, methinks. We broke folks are a diverse genus. But I have definitely met That Kind of Person in real life, and it is a trip and a half.

[@KokNoker]

The people who 5FDP pisses off tell me that I should like 5FDP far more.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Exactly lol

[@RememberingGames]

"Let's get f***ed up". Damn that was quite catchy.

[@ryanmaass5360]

Five Finger Death Punch actually puts on a pretty fun live show... *braces for impact*

[@thisisfyne]

Five Finger Death Punch is probably hated because we all see the potential, but they went the Avenged Sevenfold / discount metal / bro culture road instead... which is even more insulting to some extent.

[@oldworldpatriot8920]

A7X never went bro culture,if anything The Stage in 2016 was them growing up and maturing away from the route 5FDP is taking

[@evan937]

8:43 even you couldn't say that without almost laughing. I had to pause the video when I saw the dark crystal creature so I could proceed to roll on the floor for a few minutes. 😂😂😂

[@SomeJustice19k]

FFDP puts on amazing live shows! ... I'm an angry white guy, who is a veteran, though...

[@justinhuskey335]

His lyrics are retarded. Can't listen to them because of that.

[@realspartan5206]

Justin Huskey I think the album W.I.T.A. (war is the answer) wasn’t that bad, it’s less “Bro-like” but hey, it’s subjective people like what they like,

[@SomeJustice19k]

@@justinhuskey335 honestly, lots of bands have retarded lyrics. Lol

[@willmurrin9344]

Do a video covering mathcore. Bands such as The Fall of Troy, Protest The Hero, Chiodos, Dance Gavin Dance, Periphery. I’m curious to see where these bands got their influence from and I would like to see your take on it.

[@rebeccanorman5236]

Will Murrin unfortunately he said he’ll never do a DGD video because of the fans lol

[@ConvincingPeople]

Will Murrin I wouldn't call most of those bands mathcore at all, personally, with Periphery *definitely* being a whole different style of music; that said... he's touched on the earlier waves of mathcore in his videos on metalcore (the bit about "Deadguycore") and here with Design the Skyline-bad example for sure, but relevant to the discussion-but a fuller video encompassing the key early players like Converge and Botch moving forward to more modern bands incorporating elements of that style would be neat.

[@thomasfleetwood4727]

Millionaires were the original belle delphine. They're just conning the system. All the way to the scene bank.

[@Raycifer]

I just don't like FFDP's constant cover songs on the radio

[@chrishanson995]

I was surprised the cover songs weren’t brought up!!

[@WhiskeyTango84]

Are they really anything worth saying?

[@realm23x73]

I had to erase my comment after seeing yours..

[@ceryseira]

Ah, that might be the issue, I wasn't aware that was a thing and haven't heard any of their covers, so idk whether or not they're stepping on toes by ruining them.

[@garitotheboss1271]

Exsplor their songs they are the best

[@pmgodin]

Never heard of Millionnaires before listening to this video. Wish I could go back to ignorance. But has always, great content man! Thanks!

[@ktgrnhig]

Millionaires was the precursor to the music careers of those Dr Phil drama girls like Bhad Baby. Change my mind.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

100%

[@Raj80191]

I don't like a lot of FFDP but I think 'Coming Down' is a great song.

[@LaidBackDevil]

Raj Kashyap there are few good FFDP songs. The only ones I can think of are sham pain and Jekyll and Hyde

[@toyotaecw]

Guitargod Their first three albums actually have quite a few bangers. The Bleeding is probably the best.

[@mavste5677]

"They use tribalism as a marketing tactic!" That is unironically a good 50% of modern marketing.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Totally

[@cyberdelicxp9125]

"Military Wife Metal" What? I had to rewind it...to make sure i didnt have a stroke.

[@ryanwilson8530]

I think they are called Sharons not Karens lol

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

@@ryanwilson8530 That's what people called Karens in the 80s

[@MikeA817]

I wish I could go on about my hate, as a military veteran, of FFDP, but I think you summed up what I would pretty much say. It angered me that they deliberately pander to a demographic I don't identify with: red state, Trump-voting, borderline (or just blatantly) racist angry white men. Sure I served with scores of them, but when this demographic was Pantera'ing it up, I was Earth Crisis'ing.

[@turdfurgeson4943]

Earth Crisis'ing just became part of my vocabulary.

[@Rhapbus1]

How dare you put Pantera down like that

[@oldworldpatriot8920]

@Anonymous226 the triggered is strong in this trumpboi.

[@CorvinRayne]

Four syllables.... Mo-to-gra-ter. Ivan’s true fit for his talent.

[@johnrankin6040]

Seriously though, way better than 5FDP

[@Crustapher]

Exactly. My goodness that album is gold to me.

[@Antapexial]

Other bands to include: - Blood on the Dance Floor - Unicorns Killed my Girlfriend - 3OH3 - To Kill Achilles - Eskimo Callboy - For All Those Sleeping - -LostProphets-

[@luispereztasso]

Hot take: Poppy is just millionaires but with talent

[@randydewitt9222]

Luis Pérez so I wasn’t the only one thinking about Poppy, I wanna hear Finns opinion on her. I don’t hate her but people are hating the fact she’s on Sumerian.

[@luispereztasso]

@@randydewitt9222 As I said she actually does have talent mate. I love how she mixes metal with pop but in a way that is actually listenable!

[@hydraglyphics]

Poppy is great! The fact that she's on Sumerian now is even better. Another nail in the coffin of elitism, in my opinion.

[@luispereztasso]

@@hydraglyphics Love what you said!

[@TheMajorCam]

that take is as hot as Paul Walker 2019.

[@sofetchxx]

Damn, I used to love The Millionaires even though I was “straight edge” 😂

[@andrewjohnson968]

Interesting to hear you reference Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza in this video! I know those dudes. I worked at a pizza shop with most of them, and their original bass player Butler designed all my band’s merch ✌️