religion - the bad parent [cc]

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In this final appendix to the TA series, I present my fundamental problem with religion .... the Parent-Child relationship gone bad.
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subtitles
Bulgarian: Djeitko
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Faith school documentary:
• Video
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Recommended TA texts:
1) Ian Stewart & Vann Joines: 'TA Today: A New Introduction To Transactional Analysis'
2) Thomas A Harris: 'I'm OK, You're OK'
3) Eric Berne: 'Games People Play'
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videos in the series
TA1 - ego states and transactions
• Transactional Analysis...
TA2 - games theory
• Transactional Analysis...
TA3 - gimmicks
• Transactional Analysis...
TA appendix i - KZbin games
• KZbin games
TA appendix ii - religion

[@TheraminTrees]

'why is your logo a ghost baby in a tux?' -The channel logo's actually a fetus in a tux. It's a reference to the idea of preserving the child within the adult.

[@jordanmchighlander9365]

That's really interesting. I thought it might have been a reference to the idea of how things in our youth affect us long into adulthood or the idea that even as adults we are still at the mercy of the things that shape us.

[@the_hanged_clown]

that could mean two things

[@Tabby3456]

"It's a reference to the idea of preserving the child within the adult. " Does liking Baby Yoda count?

[@amandalee714]

Your videos have helped my life so much. EX-JW here! Thank you 🙏

[@raymondcarter1137]

@@Tabby3456 NO! You must worship twilight...ON YOUR KNEES! Praise team Jacob.

[@mr-ch405]

Religion sounds alot like emotional bullying in a relationship.

[@romant142]

David Beczuk yes

[@williamedstrom5681]

Theramin has a video on that, too!

[@ARedMagicMarker]

Because it is.

[@sebas8225]

psychological bullying indeed.

[@VicarOfQuestions]

A lot, not alot. Grammer bullying...

[@LadyDoomsinger]

My response to proselytizing is always the same: "Any entity that demands worship, is not worthy of it."

[@VaughanMcCue]

Spreading god swill is a compulsion.

[@laskurtanceixixii]

​@@VaughanMcCuewhat

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@laskurtanceixixii If English isn't your first language, it may not be easy to explain.

[@TheDormantP]

@@VaughanMcCue He understood what you meant very well, he was simply shocked at the nonsense that you just spouted.

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@TheDormantP Spouting nonsense requires quoting a bible verse. Numbers 22;28 Besides, anyone who thinks me a fool, is no idiot. S. Milligan Thanks for your interest and contribution 1 ;40 5 Sep'24-G.M.T.

[@TheraminTrees]

'The point of a God is that he exists' -Until evidence is presented, that claim is an assertion without substance.

[@Gandaleon]

The fact, that spiritual leaders often like to be addressed as "father" and reversely call their flock their "children" supports your theory, that religions tend to have an infantilising effect on their followers. For an outsider it is really absurd (and kind of inappropriate), to see an elderly person refer to their young pastor as "father".

[@CarloCopier]

Gandaleon Interestingly, according to Matthew 23:9, Jesus doesn't want religious leaders to be adressed as "father".

[@jilliansmith7123]

What about how the people are the "sheep" and the leader of a religious group is the "shepherd?" It's not EVEN child/parent...it's human and farm animal. Sheesh!

[@valivali8104]

Personally it isn't any better if pastor/priest/whatever is older than member of (sub-sub- etc. sect of) their religion... 😰

[@TheDragonSeer]

Thank you. I have a horrible P->C relationship with my parents, and went to a pseudo school where they taught the Christian propaganda version of biology, empathized evolution as a theory, and had closed-minded, racist, and downright insane teachers. Home is worse, as I'm constantly forced into the Child position I held for all my life and expected to just "be" an Adult when there was no love, compassion, or caring on their end. I turn 18 in three months, and learned everything I know completely alone. Your videos help me see the light. When I make enough money in the future I'll donate to you.

[@Astronut128]

Exactly the same here. "INSTANT OBEDIENCE" was something I'd hear as they smack me if I so much as hesitated at a command. even at 28 they still feel they need to bark at me whenever we are together. I'm kinda nervous, at a very early age I started trying to have an A-A relationship, but that was purged from me. Now that I'm an adult planning on having kids eventually, I know nothing about how to foster that kind of relationship, where do I start?

[@thomaskavanagh9780]

I hope now for you at least that your life is going well

[@littlekishmish]

Hey there. How are you doing now, 3 years later?

[@spectranaut2464]

Its good to hear that someone got out of it. Im currently still in this relationship with my parents being a month from 18 and having parents who feel the need to control every aspect of my life and supress any sort of independent thinking or acting.

[@Jw-un8oh]

@@spectranaut2464 Your choice is to manipulate them and play to the illusion that you are a good Christian, meanwhile behind closed doors being your true Atheistic self, or leave at 18. It is really up to you. I would stay and be a hypocrite as long as you can. Take advantage of them just like they did to you. Don't get revenge though, just go were the help is. If they stop helping you, get the fuck out immediately. Do not forget that, you need help and they might not always give it to you. Get the fuck out whenever you need to. Do not hesitate.

[@JKOT05]

I've learned valuable lesson :"The louder advertisement, the worse product." And religion has rather loud advertisement.

[@Ras_Spinoza]

9 YEARS?😳😳 Where have I been all this while? This channel is so life changing.

[@williamdooley1862]

I wrote my senior paper on religious indoctrination on children from their parents.

[@Ty_Cunningham]

Good for you

[@vierrieckhardt6305]

yes

[@zacharygilmore1075]

I wrote my paper on how I became a (still closeted) atheist.

[@RAFL94]

Why do religious people feel the need to spread ''gods'' word? If he's all powerful he could easily forcefeed his ''knowledge'' and ''wisdom'' into our brains instantly. But he doesn't. No, he puts it in a book that doesn't make any sense with It's far too many contradictions. The whole religious thing is a joke.

[@Mantafirefly]

Memetic natural selection. If in the past there were religions groups who did want to spread their ideas to others, and others who did not feel the need, which groups would you expect to see the most of today?

[@eternalreign2313]

TT touch on this subject in a couple later videos, and it's something I often use with theists too, especially when they think we're just not seeing gods signs, and that is, a god would know exactly how much evidence each of us would require to believe in him, so if we're missing his "signs", then it's his failure not ours. Or as I like to say, clearly god wanted me to be an atheist who goes around the internet mocking his followers so what gives you the right to question his divine plan lol?

[@coweatsman]

The Amish for all their funny clothes and customs at least have a prohibition against proselytising which they see as vanity. They have some little insight into the human condition. They can see the gamey aspect to it without knowing anything about TA.

[@daleeloph7759]

RAFL94 the sad thing is it says to do this their bible and if you reject their message you are rejecting God and then they feel like they are being persecuted

[@yehiaelyamani6943]

The need is baffling to me and I couldn't understand a bit. Why can't they be satisfied with possessing the absolute truth? In islam, answers given amount to "we are ordered to do so" and "we get to please Allah more and get rewarded for it". Neither makes sense to me, and how would it be pleasing to the Supreme being to coerce lesser beings to believe or even allow murder to achieve the mission.

[@microbiologeest]

I was a Christian and I used to do "spread" God's word to "save" people who are "damned" or "rebellious" to God. I genuinely believed that it was the greatest thing to do in life, and that was what was being taught to us. Luckily, I got out of that indoctrination. I feel sorry for the people I talked into religion(luckily, my marketing skills are shit so I didn't get anyone in) and to the people who'll be manipulated into joining that church.

[@CaptainSaveHoe]

Your responsibility should be to undo the damage you did.

[@mr.nomura]

The pious and delusional call it "the good news". It's more like "the bad news". I really don't see how mental enslavement can be "good". Shows how twisted and warped the christian mind truly is.

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@CaptainSaveHoe Since @microbilogeest had an abysmal sales record, what could it do other than confess the sins before The Flying Spaghetti Monster and drink from a beer volcano? It does not appear to have caused any damage.

[@stephengalanis]

I think Catholicism, with it's continual hyper-focus on Mary as a visualized mother figure, does a better job of making childish adults than most.

[@FKAAYA]

As a Muslim I think we hold that title

[@egrace3738]

As a freed former catholic, I completely agree.

[@VaughanMcCue]

Notwithstanding a side of beef hanging on a cross above every hospital bed reminding the patient the quality of the surgeons.

[@zeddeka]

The emphasis on guilt and god watching you 24 / 7 is emotional torture, I think. One of my friends, a Catholic who also happens to be gay, was absolutely scarred by his religious schooling. Sounded like little more than psychological abuse that he went through.

[@sithispadomay492]

I saw Jesus Camp yesterday... Such scary, very child abuse, much fear. Wow.

[@lowlowseesee]

Sithis Padomay the school that Fischer, excuse me, the camp that she was running got shut down after the uproar that was created by the reaction to the film is what i heard

[@ablobofslime4612]

just wait tiill u see a gay conversion camp.

[@helloworld1682]

Pumpkin Spice Latte - you’ve seen that movie too?

[@noname-by3qz]

@@lowlowseesee yes I just checked. The year after it came out. 2007 they announced they'd close it.

[@algobo]

'If we're to grow up as a species, we need to adress the systems that infantilise us' - That's so true! I've been thinking about this a lot, in other words, but the same principle - I think we live sorrounded by toxic information, toxic relationships and toxic systems that are not providing to the majority of us, as a species, with the congnitive and informative tools to evolve!

[@inezneal6917]

he coercive part hits. It's so true where decent treatment is withheld to illicit compliance. A lot of toxic people ignore or attack you if you poke holes in their actions then respond with love bombing when you address their carrot.

[@TSPMikey]

I can’t believe this video is 10 years old! You’ve been doing SO much good and I’ve only just recently discovered your channel! The information your Channel covers is literally life changing, so I’m really grateful for all the hard work you’ve put in to keep this going. I really hope more people discover you 🙌

[@mrbarthoss1]

Deftly articulated, and very effectively presented. I rank these vids as some of the very best on the subjects of faith, religion, human behavior. Bravo!

[@coweatsman]

Maybe some one should write a book called "Religions People Worship" with the same kind of analysis as "Games People Play".

[@mariae321]

This channel is brilliant very informative thanks so much. This channel has helped me so much.

[@misterid1075]

I now think of this video every time I drive past a guy on the side of the road with a sandwich board and a megaphone ranting about the end times. I live in America so it's about once a week.

[@cediviannareeda4305]

They have to do it once a week, I mean if they don't catch it before it happens, they might have to admit they were wrong, and that's completely out of the question

[@DuckInGameStop]

I always laugh when I see those people, I wonder if they realize how many others throughout history have "predicted the rapture" and obviously been wrong?

[@acoolerhandle]

@@DuckInGameStop apparently it’s actually a sin to predict the end of the world. Makes you wonder why they do it

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@DuckInGameStop The way I drive after 30 beers, the end could be closer than Mr Sandwich board has anticipated.

[@MxHavmir]

I really liked the Parent-Child visuals in this episode, keep up the good work

[@BHGiant3]

So I finally got the guts up to tell my wife I'm an atheist. Wow, that was hard. Many tears. She just didn't know what to think. Gradually, things got better. She started reading and our arguments started to become discussions. She's still very religious and I'm still very atheist but I think we understand each other. I'm happy to say that I've lost nothing and feel like I've gained everything. It was worth it.

[@VaughanMcCue]

Wow, this is an old post. I hope you are going well. Pleasedescribe how it transpired .

[@mofire5674]

Yes, if you see this, update us!

[@tear7934]

Just finished the entire playlist.. Big thanks to my teacher who played this in the class.. Your channel is such a gem.. Thank you so much for making such high quality videos way back in 2010..

[@Catlord98765]

Most religuous people on the internet are good people who dont yell, cuss and constanly prosolatize to people of other beliefs. It's just that on the internet, you don't really see those people or see them as different from non-religous people because they arn't the ones talking about religion.

[@gematria79]

The "Golden Rule" is all that young children need to taught about basic morality. Anyone asking questions should be entitled to correct facts & honestly be told that we don't know all the answers to every question YET. We should encourage EVERYONE to do research for themselves instead of EVER allowing the "supernatural" to be a conclusion.

[@tedfranks1186]

I was flogged as a child for my belief that there is no god I was only 5 when this started and continued till i was ten by both my parents and the father of the church my parents went to as I grew up I found no evidence for god or gods even though I gave it many chances for many religions and as I found out the historical evidence on why there is no god or gods my belief became concrete in my thinking.

[@EvolBob1]

Christopher Atkinson You were flogged as a child? What happened at 10 when it stopped? How is your relationship with your folks today? And is this kind of behaviour still happening in your childhood area? Although there is clearly no evidence for a god or gods, the child abuse you have described is something else altogether. The worst part - I suspect - is you having to lie about believing in their faith, to avoid further punishment?

[@GeatMasta]

The worship thing made me realize that while ancient aliens conspiracy is even less substantiated than actual religions, it's most consistent with the desires of a god. E.g. an artificial super intelligence may need constant approval from life to avoid shutting down, as a safety mechanism of some sort.

[@jot801]

GeatMaster it's a cheat. the AI gets shut down if it's creator thinks we are unhappy with the way it's running things. Thus it creates religion to maintain the illusion of our love and acceptance. I wonder what would happen if we all hated god.

[@Daniel-dl6cu]

I really like these videos. I'm not an atheist but it has really helped me understand some of my own emotional trauma from religious indoctrination and move towards beliefs that I feel are much healthier for me.

[@zachb.6179]

When I was about 5, the sermon at church was about how if you don't tell people about God before they are 6, they're less likely to be a believer later in life. At the time, I remember thinking, "golly, I'm pretty lucky." But somewhere in my late teens i was like, "wait a minute!"

[@LoverElephant97]

@TheraminTrees I'm 14 and a huge fan of your vids.They're so beautifully done, and are incredibly honest and easy to relate to, especially the Instruction Manual for Life. I haven't come out as an Atheist to my parents yet, and I'm unsure how to do so or how they'll react, but your vids definitely helped me put many of my beliefs into words, without being insulting,accusing or angry,which is where most of the hate for Atheists comes from. You're an inspiration, thanks!

[@stanleyjones1935]

You have been one of most amazing of the KZbinrs who turned me away from religion. Breaking down religious indoctrination to its core had helped me understand my previous self when I used to believe and also understand my family who are still fundamentalist christians.

[@atheistickhan7216]

I'm happy that this channel was recommended for me...great videos by the way .

[@Pondering_Primate]

Perhaps one of the best channels, thankyou 😊

[@jilliansmith7123]

One of my favorite anti-atheist names is "godless atheist!" I so want to just say, calmly, "Exactly." What else IS an atheist, but someone who doesn't believe in a god or gods? As an atheist, I do find humor in such names.

[@Soapandwater6]

"A godless atheist". They always say that with a sneer in an effort to shame. I want to tell them hell, yeah!

[@larsswig912]

@@Soapandwater6 I mean, saying "godless atheist" is like saying "wet water" Imagine insulting water by calling it wet

[@Soapandwater6]

@@larsswig912 😆

[@ugolomb]

"Godless atheist" is a tautological redundancy.

[@kpk1958]

God I love this channel! Thank you TheraminTrees.

[@dgrhm08]

“If we wish to grow as a species, we need to address the systems that infantilize us.” -Brilliant! I wish we heard more of that idea being promoted in the US.

[@Lesbionairre]

Thank you. I rarely feel a need to 'thumbs up' or comment. I did both.

[@peppermintgal4302]

Tai Lopez keeps showing up as ads, and its interesting to watch how manipulative he is. He hands you a problem via power of suggestion, ("maybe you're in a tough position in life right now,") establishes trust/empathy, ("I used to be like you,") and then sells you a solution. Wish this guy would get flushed down the drain. Can't wait for them to discover he's committing tax fraud or something.

[@MrEkaterian]

Someone needs to show this to every human

[@MintyLime703]

Doesn't mean they'll change if they don't want to

[@TendresseExige]

I like how you always put as many subtitles as possible in your videos. It's very useful for people like me, who are trying to learn English. Kudos

[@gwennafyr]

Your videos are wonderful, their clarity and fact-based style refreshing. It seems to me that you have put a lot of time and effort into creating them, and it is all too rare to see someone so openly and generously shed light into the darkness of humanity's slavery to superstition. I hope that everyone with the opportunity takes time to hear you out with an open mind. Thank you so much for what you are doing.

[@Andrew-od4vg]

I was fortunate enough to watch this right after the social transactions series. Now I have a plethora of tangible examples of every type of social transaction thanks to these comments!

[@Soapandwater6]

"Nothing needs to be worshiped." Thank you for putting into words what I have thought for years.

[@TheraminTrees]

@42976675 'is it inferred that only non-believers are mentally healthy?' -The video states it's about the specific parts of religion I have a problem with - and explains the nature of that problem: unhealthy Parent-Child dynamics. The video, however, also explicitly acknowledges that Adult-Adult relationships are possible with religious people, and that I've personally experienced that. So your inference that 'only non-believers are mentally healthy' is your own.

[@VaughanMcCue]

Two big people who imagine mythology is real may mean their chronological age is high, but their mental age has to be questioned. Of course, most of us are slightly cracked, as that is how the light gets in. The difference is that many of us don't hold delusions based on your mythology of talking snakes and donkeys.

[@absolutelynot554]

I am so grateful to have come across your TA series. After watching them all in chronological order, I am thoroughly pleased to have watched this as a conclusion. Thank you for helping us better understand ourselves and the world around us.

[@wrathofainz]

11 years later and believers haven't changed much.

[@mulllhausen]

this is excellent! i liked your comment on government at the end too

[@TheraminTrees]

Peter Miller Yep, it's pointless congratulating ourselves on escaping one system of infantilisation, only to go on unwittingly submitting to others.

[@mulllhausen]

TheraminTrees i became an anarchist soon after i became an atheist. i was interested in finance and i was flabbergasted at the structure of modern banking - it was pretty much the opposite of how i had always thought banks worked.

[@DIMentiaMinecraft]

TheraminTrees I don't know that it is actually pointless. Congratulating ourselves while failing, makes the realization that we failed later, a more poignant experience. I must have failed to leave religion a dozen times, each time a little less sure than the time before that I had finally found something meaningful. Gradually I began to realize that I might be pursuing a pointless goal. I now hold the opinion that 'meaning' appears to be what we make it, rather than something to acquire. I reached that opinion right about the same time that I decided that I had found an *opinion* which (for the moment) seemed to make sense, rather than a transcendental truth. Nothing like a little repetition to drive a message home.

[@SoldierGeneral64]

Peter Miller Ummmm anarchism doesn't work you realize that right? Check out Somalia lol

[@mulllhausen]

SoldierGeneral64 somalia has a government

[@FishyBoi1337]

Wow, another amazing video, but i’d personally love to see this channel tackle some of the absurdities of governments as well; because religion and tyrannical governments go hand in hand afterall, don’t they?

[@redpillsatori3020]

... And now I think BLM and Wokeness can be appended to that as well

[@gido9467]

@@priyapepsi It means there’s a strong chance this person carries bigoted ideas, and doesn’t like it when they’re pointed out. 😆

[@FishyBoi1337]

@@gido9467 always fun coming back to long-ago posted comments and seeing the remnants of arguments long since deleted at least by one side. Hope you're doing alright, stranger :)

[@gido9467]

@@FishyBoi1337 I’m doing relatively well. Here’s hoping the same for you. 😊

[@kittycoley3300]

I think john lennon had it right when he wrote IMAGINE A WORLD WITHOUT RELIGION

[@claires9100]

I was 23 when I was first aware of that line in his song. I got the chills when I heard it. And it rang so true to me. And I have since been trying to imagine that world. Thanks for reminding me.

[@deanmccrorie3461]

It’s called a communist state

[@moenavarro5865]

@@deanmccrorie3461 Wrong Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion, too

[@suides4810]

red wood thars actually nice tho

[@moenavarro5865]

@@suides4810 exactly has nothing to do with communism 😉

[@johnnyanonyme]

I just watched your TA series and wanted to say thanks for making these videos. They are a useful introduction to Berne's model. You obviously spent quite a bit of time on research and building the videos themselves. I appreciate the obvious investments made here. Thank you!

[@GiftedFiasco]

This series blew me away. For passing on even the tiniest of your knowledge and life experience to me, thanks Theramin.

[@jonahankin3667]

Genuinely one of the best videos I've ever seen on this subject. The explanation is perfect and very thorough. Coming from someone who isn't an atheist, by the way.

[@romant142]

Jonah Ankin how come you believe?

[@Ras_Spinoza]

@Jonah Ankin. Yes, why do you believe?

[@TheraminTrees]

@Kazenic1 'However, you may say "You see what you want to see." ' -Nope, I'd probably say, 'What standards of evidence are you proposing?' Because when you lower the threshold for what's considered 'evidence', you don't only let your divine beliefs in - you let a load of other people's in, that conflict with yours diametrically. They can't all be right. But that's the road we inevitably go down. Then everyone's gods - and their demands - are 'validated'. I worked that out when I was a christian.

[@TheraminTrees]

@jemborg I don't know if we've been regressing, or just never really grown up. I think there are considerable deterrents in place in many cultures, against the attributes we might associate with the Adult state. I suspect they're often about the retention of individual or group power, but also I'd suggest there's a strong streak of actively wanting to be 'looked after' in various ways - wanting others to sort things out for us. Hence, by carrot or stick or both, we often submit.

[@jameswilkinson259]

Your videos are gems TT. Your keen insight and skillful use of the English language are admirable. Kindest regards sir.

[@zenkim6709]

Nice 2 see that Transactional Analysis hasn't disappeared. My best friend Jeff always invited me 2 come visit him whenever I felt like it, & offered 2 let me browse his personal library. Among his books were "Transactional Analysis" & "Games People Play" -- both of which proved 2 B very interesting, starting w/ the foundational premise that all social interactions can B viewed as "transactions".

[@cediviannareeda4305]

4:46 guild of Christian assassins, I found my new band name

[@TheraminTrees]

@Alux2003 'And who said that personal freedom was an easy game anyway?' -Precisely.

[@Adamslowsis]

Amazing and well put, thought I would have to say it caters to those already past the belief systems it deconstructs. To someone still in the grip of faith, this would all be too overwhelming, and hard to follow.

[@MisheelChuluun]

I agree. I shared on Facebook to my family and friends, anyway...even though some of my friends are "believers." Also, this doesn't address all religions or belief systems. I was raised Buddhist/Agnostic. When I was a child, my parents took my brothers and me to Christian Churches at suggestion of friends for some Sundays, just so we got perspective of what our friends believed. Pretty open-minded of them, considering they thought the actual construct of the Christian stories puzzling.

[@carrolandre304]

This was a great demonstration of socialization. I am glad you enjoyed it. I think it captured the problems of humanity that creep into the many institutes we can be involved with. I think the belief system that is or needs deconstructing is the one that we know what is best for others. I think the demonstration of how parent, child and adult interact was well illustrated, I am a firm believer in Christ. I do not have a problem with such a belief. I am quite happy to have my faith. I do not feel any more or less superior to anyone for it. I am fine with anyone Else's belief's. Criticizing,Blaming,Complaining,Nagging,Threatening,Punishing,Rewarding to control (as in manipulating) I am glad atheist, can see past this example, as was mentioned by the presenter that it was a misrepresentation of Christianity. It shows a lot of open mindedness, and maturity, I can respect his views, and I would agree that any example of feeling superior to others is a vain attempt at trying to control others. Probably the people most offended by this would stand to reason be a believer. Although I think most people can see past what is real, so I do not think it matters.

[@RM-ti8nf]

I keep coming back to these videos- they articulate what I feel and help me clarify thoughts.

[@DrakeMagnum]

I'm never, ever disappointed by your videos Professor Trees. I love what you do for KZbin.

[@37parman]

Great, great video. I watch this and say to myself..."Now that makes sense." Can anyone read any text in the bible or quran and say the same?

[@sac14411]

thanks for this awesome video with mind chilling voice :D

[@taylorsmith8576]

Everyone needs to think critically of their beliefs. One of the best ways to disprove a certain religion is to look at how modern religions are made. Like scientology or the church of latter day saints. There is no evidence

[@TheraminTrees]

I guess not. Well, for those interested, my refutation of the cosmological argument stands - any being that performs any action has to be subject to time, otherwise there can be no sequence of events. The objection that this makes a 'category error' by judging a 'necessary being' by the standards of a 'contingent being' is off-base. Nope: what I'm doing is pointing out that the 'necessary being' being presented is unworkable. Saying 'this unworkable thing must've done it' is not a conclusion.

[@blue-pt9jc]

It's the first time I've heard someone give an argument for not being either humble or arrogant I've never even considered that there was a middle point!

[@KendrixTermina]

"Doublethink" is really the word for it. There I was, developing an interest in cosmology videos and dinosaur books, and I go, "...but Daddy, which is the actual truth then?" "There are two truths." I just assumed I was still stupid and small and just didn't understand yet - I was being taught to become a dependent person. But you see, all the science books and videos always explained *how* people arrived at conclusions like, for example, how the universe expanding was concluded from redshifts.

[@Falcodrin]

Cosmology and Christianity (at least my parents version) don't work well together. That's one of the biggest strains between me and my dad. He knows I love everything to do with futurology and space and he likes it too but I can't really speak openly without letting him know I'm an atheist so it's leaving him feeling like I'm avoiding talking with him. I just want to have a good conversation on how civilization would need to evolve towards the end of the universe or something but he believes the rapture is just around the corner and we won't ever upload our brains and climate change scientists are wrong because God wouldn't let us ruin the world. It's tiring.

[@eniolaolubosi487]

I feel like the preacher at the beginning was Nigerian. Here preachers can scream on the streets with megaphones at 5 AM if they want. If you tell them to shut up everyone will see you as evil

[@thebigbangtheoryispuregarbage]

The whole of africa.its quiet sad

[@0nlyThis]

We inherit the gods of our elders, ensconce in their religion, defined for us in their language and supporting their mores - passed on to us, without alternatives, while we were yet incapable of discrimination. Inherited biases all.

[@magicdarragh]

This was a BRILLIANT video man. It really is one of my favourite videos on youtube. Seriously. It's so well thought-out, systematically and unemotionally explained through sound rational. FAIR PLAY man. Brilliant.

[@Fraizie4V]

I'd just like to say that your videos really have helped to open my eyes these past few years in my transition from catholicism to atheism. This is a real breath of fresh air, not just in the internet's chaos, but in any context. Thanks

[@thenon-stopdad601]

People who preach on trains like this I'm sure do usually have mental health problems.

[@jortikkaa568]

best channel ever

[@Wistful77]

"The guild of christian assassins" are coming for us?! Wtf. I knew it wasn't based in "love". That is so offensive. Puts me on the defensive.

[@MintyLime703]

Nothing shows more love than killing the opposition so they can't speak out against your "love" That'll show em, nobody will dare call our god immoral after we kill them all. Out of love, of course. Fucking abhorrent.

[@M3t4lManiac]

Yours and your brother's videos are among my absolute favourite videos on KZbin.

[@musiqal333]

Your videos are well thought out and absolutely deeply informative. Keep up the excellent work!!!

[@wolf1066]

Advert at the beginning of an atheist video: "Hello, my name is Aure, which is the Hebrew word for 'light'. If you already knew this, you've..." *skip* me: "...probably seen this stupid ad for _israelbiblicalstudies_ come up before." I know her name, what it means and who she works for - which is three more things than I ever wanted to know. Here in New Zealand, pushing your religion on others is also seen as crass and vulgar - doesn't stop some people but they tend to get shit from all quarters for doing so, especially since those who do so are usually extremist wingnuts with highly fundamentalist or evangelist outlooks, which is equally offensive to quiet private believers as it is to non-believers. *To the privileged, equality feels like oppression* - which about sums up religion in general. For years they've held immense political sway, got to say who was or wasn't a rightful monarch of a nation and what was or wasn't lawful or "moral" and once they started losing that power in the face of growing equal rights for women, homosexuals, transgenders, non-believers etc it's all "help, I'm being oppressed!! Come see the violence inherent in the system!" I met one Christian who had the whole victim-complex going, stating he had been oppressed for his religion (in New Zealand, of all places, where you can be any damned religion you like without systemic oppression) and allegedly had people "spit in his face" _just because he believed in the salvation of Jesus_ - five minutes with this arrogant twat and you quickly saw *why* people would _want_ to spit in his face as he was one of the most aggressive and insulting evangelising and proselytising arseholes you could meet and you quickly began to doubt that the negative reactions he got were *solely* because he believed in a particular religion. Apparently, telling him to fuck off out of your face and stop shoving his religion down your throat was "oppressing his religion". Being *equally* rude and obnoxious to him as he's being to you is "oppression". Reacting adversely to him treating you like a child and demanding you accept Jesus as your saviour was "oppression". He was just a poor victim of a cruel godless world... when they finally do bring out the Victimisation Olympics, he's my bet for gold in all the Religious events.

[@TheOrthodoxAlbanian]

I had a Christian ad 2 at night, “I don’t know what’s keeping you up at night, but click the link below and we have a team of people ready to talk to you about God”. What the hell? When it comes to me, I am staying awake as I have things to do, not because of things not going well for me which in return makes me lack sleep. But when it comes to those that have emotional trauma’s, such Christian ad’s are manipulative, taking advantage of others whilst they are in vulnerable positions. Highly unethical.

[@TheOrthodoxAlbanian]

Great comment by the way. I agreed with it all.

[@wolf1066]

@@TheOrthodoxAlbanian Cheers :) Yeah, unfortunately, there's always some unethical manipulative person willing to prey on people with emotional trauma. If it's not the churches, it's some lying fucking "psychic" claiming they can put the person in touch with the dead or answer questions. Much and all as I hate religious people using people's vulnerable emotional states as a means to recruit, at least they've frequently got the excuse that they're genuinely deluded into _believing_ that shit (certain ultra-rich televangelists being the obvious exception), even though their behaviour is unethical by deliberately targeting vulnerable people. I hate "psychics" even more, because they _deliberately_ use trickery to achieve their "results" (Googling information about the subject, _deliberate_ Barnum Statements etc) so the "genuine belief" defense doesn't apply - you can't _learn_ how to use Barnum Statements or look up information on a person's Facebook page and then claim to "believe" that the information was given to you by dead people. Deliberately unethical *and* deliberately deceptive.

[@dinameshrif6430]

you are the best athiest channel on the internet. Thank you!

[@mcelhannan]

i wish i could like this twice :-)

[@MonirKhan-vt3ru]

How did I miss this! Wonderfully analyzed. Thank you.

[@TheNinjatoker420]

Just subscribed, i think i've watched nearly all your videos, it's extremely hard to come across videos as insightful, entertaining and engaging, Your "why live" video collaboration with qualia soup and your TA series is just unreal, there's just no other word for them.

[@jazztutorial]

Hi Theramin, I love your videos. What animation programme do you use?

[@joesickler5888]

Prolly an updated version by now.

[@danieldd1804]

@@bootuber4335 he’s 3D ones are made in blender

[@canadiannuclearman]

Not restricted to religion. North Korea society. Nazi Germany the inquisition etc. It's good the passengers on the train spoke up. But not always do, because of fear.

[@canadiannuclearman]

Yes in the old 1970's book "IM OK YOUR OK" does show the 3 states Child Parent Adult Therefore having 9 combinations. At work I thought I was in an Adult adult interaction but it was apperant the boss thought it was a Child Parent which made it awkward. In my previous post another example was Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge was another your labeled as an antirevolutionary. The people on the train are ok. The time to worry is when people keep silent for fear.

[@LaTortuePGM]

10:21 if we come from dust, why is there still dust ?... 😑

[@SilortheBlade]

Great video. One of the best i have seen on KZbin. Thanks for all your work on this.

[@davidtancon9975]

so good, great arguments, nice simple diagrams and easy to read text. Great vocal delivery. I could watch these video's all day.

[@csbaca1]

As an "Athiest," I have always wondered, why do we need a name to not believe in something that's not there in the first place? What do we call people who dont believe in Thor? Normal? 🤔😂🤣

[@jejeo4372]

Yeah right?

[@VaughanMcCue]

They are called atheists by Thorite's and gardeners or whatever job description they have by others. Being a beekeeper is a challenge because a hard of hearing fundy might stone you to death when you say you are an apiarist.

[@h_chase1974]

Wait 9:52 there is a guild of Christian Assassins? The fuck? That sounds like assassins creed but inverse.

[@BadMouse101]

What do TheraminTrees and Qualiasoup use for their animations? I want to make animations like this too!

[@MusicalInquisit]

It's probably blender or Adobe AfterEffects

[@MedK001]

@@Drako9823 what the fuck

[@manthasagittarius1]

These TA videos are very good. I found my way to them through your beautifully conceived, moving and one of a kind (among so many) tribute to Christopher Hitchens. Thank you too for the time and personal involvement in the way you voice the videos -- you have a great, well-paced vocal presentation, calm and firm. Looking forward to exploring more of your creations.

[@SUPERritschi]

I have a question! Is the whole opening scenario a thought experiment or was it a real situation?

[@TheraminTrees]

Real situation - unreal as it felt at the time.

[@SUPERritschi]

Sick shit bro! X(

[@coweatsman]

I would have replied with "An everlasting baroque? I love baroques. Is God or Satan putting on the beers?"

[@fadedglory1045]

Yes god creates a perpetual state of being a child. The Heavenly Father. Former cult member (JW) child or human sacrifice in the form of dying in need of blood. Almost lost my daughter. I thought it was just a nice group of people and since I was raised in it I didn't see how it could harm. Boy did I learn differently. Thank you for all these videos. Much indoctrination to come out of and get out of my kids.

[@Waba_Tube]

I wish I could give 100 likes to this video

[@bobsagget823]

This was a very articulate video. The content here is exactly what I was looking for, I liked how you made clear references and backed up everything with well deduced reasoning. Definitely one of my favorites, good job :)

[@Raw799]

Can't believe I only now have stumbled onto this channel. Will rewacth and incorporate your same critique to my debates. Thank you.

[@evilbob840]

Interesting that the hate comments over 3 words long both contain elementary school level grammar mistakes.

[@thedankatheist3466]

Its been 9 years and you still sound exactly the same lol

[@EmoBearRights]

Transphobia is also growing.

[@baileygregg6567]

It's causing problems for kids growing up. Get out of your own way.🍀👌🇺🇸

[@baileygregg6567]

@Bobo of all the names to pick, there's literally years of Howard Stern content singing against the name Bobo saying dumb things😹🇺🇸

[@baileygregg6567]

I'd imagine anybody would become intolerant to something that their shoved towards against their will oh, I believe another word would be repulsed.🐑👌

[@baileygregg6567]

@Bobo never took a Latin class but even I could guess that much, and I only assumed that much because I took some Spanish and some Japanese when I was a kid and noticed some similarities do just some Asperger's Syndrome I would assume😹👌

[@EmoBearRights]

'Manipulating your world view' really? How does recognising different ways of gender expression really put you out.

[@SBecktacular]

I love your channel and content- Haven’t checked what’s new/old, but all of it is interesting and thought provoking... Thank you 👌🙏

[@kiatiming101]

Well done video sir. Even with my limited vocabulary, your point clear and concise. I find the time to watch your entire series.

[@LucreDenouncer]

"NOTHING NEEDS TO BE WORSHIPED" makes me think you're an anarchist. Authorities that cannot prove their legitimacy must be dethroned.

[@jejeo4372]

Do you worship authority?

[@LucreDenouncer]

@o. t. There will always be people with more authority within specific fields. The only justified hierarchy is that of knowledge. Some people know more than others and that'll never change. Ideally, knowledge would be equally accessible to everyone so everyone has the same opportunity to get to the top of that hierarchy. Private schools and nationalism make that impossible. We should work to abolish both.

[@LucreDenouncer]

@@jejeo4372 Me? No. Nothing needs to be worshiped. I respect certain people who have good ideas but I never worship them.