There are two versions?!? - Creating the Qur’an with Dr. Jay - Episode 46

The Sana’a Manuscript is also known as the Sana’a Palimpsest. This means that this particular manuscript has two layers of writing on it. An original layer or lower layer that has since been erased with a new layer written over top called the upper layer. They have found two versions of the Qur’an with over 70 variants in 63 verses. Many of these have entirely different sentences. This should shock the Muslim world. Why would the lower layer ever be erased when the Qur’an is supposed to be the perfectly preserved revelation from Allah? Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay reveal the astonishing evidence of two Qur’ans.
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[@peterjackson2625]

The Quran was being updated until 1924. There, in Cairo, a final version was chosen and the others dumped in the Nile. It never came from Allah through angel Gabriel.

[@AdamosDad]

"Eternity is Too Long to be Wrong" Stay away from Islam.

[@yeshua7136]

Yes, so true it's a mistake u don't want

[@adrine5193]

I CROW UP IN MIDDLE ESTE WE ARE RUNNING FROM ISLAM TERORST RELIGIÓN

[@sultanahamed2484]

Stay away from truth ready for hell flames

[@polokucoch8112]

@@sultanahamed2484 Didn't you mean to say Stay away from FALSITY of islam or be ready for HELLFIRE...

[@user-vp8pg3zq3m]

*NO MATTER WHICH QURAN VERSIONS THAT THESE 2 ANTI-ISLAMIC PRESENTERS HAVE SHOWN, THE INTENDED MEANING OF THE QURAN ARE STILL THE SAME BECAUSE ACTUALLY THEY HAVE SHOWN QURAN DIFFERENT DIALECTS (NOT VERSIONS). SO FAR THESE 2 ANTI-ISLAMIC PRESENTERS HAVEN'T PROVIDED ANY CONTRADICTION IN THE INTENDED MEANING OF THE QURAN DIFFERENT VERSIONS THAT THEY HAVE SHOWN BECAUSE THEY DO'N'T UNDERSTAND CLASSICAL ARABIC AT ALL* 😆 .

[@Meks-]

*A smart muslim is a former muslim❤*

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@Meks ........................ Do you find Abdul Fadi smart? -04-29-24

[@polokucoch8112]

@@defenderoftruth3212 Abdul Fadi? He hasn't DUMBED himself down to the education level of mahamed, THE FALSE PROPHET. Do you still support a pedoFILE? -04-29-24 By definition mahamed, the pedoFILE WAS NOT A PROPHET : allah SPOKE to Adam, Moses, David, and other prophets in the quran, allah EVEN spoke to SATAN, BUT allah NEVER spoke to mahamed. mahamed . NEVER did any signs in the quran mahamed NEVER did any prophecies in the quran mahamed was a SINNER in the quran mahamed was not given a name at birth in the quran mahamed doesn’t know who his father is in the quran mahamed was DECEIVED by SATAN, WAS BEWITCHED FOR A YEAR mahamed making up stories? Show me where the angel identifies himself as “jibreel” in the Quran. mahamed was NOT a prophet.

[@shirleyharso2232]

​​@@defenderoftruth3212Yes he IS. He's followed the living Lord Jesus Christ who is in Heaven NOT the one whose body had decayed in grave!

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@shirleyharso2232 ...................... So, you are comparing Prophet jESUs pbuh to Prophet Muhammad pbuh. By your comparison, you are admitting that Prophet jESUs pbuh is nothing but only a mere prophet. -05-09-24

[@ishtarlew598]

How can Moslems say that there are no differences, then say the differences mean nothing.

[@bankubanga789]

All the time 😂

[@AndrewDean-rt8cv]

Because they lie about their ideology

[@defenderoftruth3212]

3:78. And indeed, there is among them a party who ALTER the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, "This is from Allah," but it is not from Allah. And they speak untruth about Allah while they know. -04-29-24

[@ishtarlew598]

@@defenderoftruth3212 and that's why Allah affirms the Torah and Gospel many times

[@Enjoyinformation-hi9uo]

Blessings, fantastic video yet again. Both of you have done so much work bringing all this information to the public.

[@user-er4yl4io7k]

Shalom and Love from Dhaka Bangladesh.

[@mysotiras21]

The Sanaa materials contain 2 versions of the Qur'an which differ markedly from each other. And today there are 37 DIFFERENT Arabic versions of the Qur'an, which frequently contradict each other. Muslims need to abandon their Islamic fantasies and go where the facts lead. Seriously. Great video.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@mysotiras21 ...................... If the Muslims abandon Islam, where do you think we should go? To your religion? Can a man-made religion be more better than the religion of Allah SWT? Q. 3:19. Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah, then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account. -04-29-24

[@Soothsayer210]

I find it a bit hard to believe 'School Text' excuse because since it is so expensive a commodity to write on in those days, * you can't expect school kids to practise on it like a black board. * even if it is the experienced scribes writing on it, you can't expect so many variances in just one sheet.

[@jakefrost8017]

Maybe it was his son and leather was an iPad lol

[@adrine5193]

NO LIES NO ISLAM 😂

[@kinggamer_15]

True 😂😂😂😂

[@MsFatiah]

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[@sultanahamed2484]

Worshippers of pagan god's human god's usually say this to conceal their shamelessness

[@ProphetMohammed-69]

😢 do you know how much work I put into making lsIam?

[@kinggamer_15]

@@ProphetMohammed-69 Yeah! The work of violence and hatred.

[@user-vo4xw6mf4r]

Reciting the Quran makes u Muslim...Understanding the Quran makes u leave Islam

[@jakefrost8017]

Unless you like kids 😏

[@Thecrusader-ym3sh]

Ayoooo 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣​@@jakefrost8017

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Ignorance of the Bible makes you a good Christian through blind following. Understanding the Bible makes you an Atheist. -03-23-24

[@jamalbaraja6130]

You are too stupid to understand because millions did and reverted.

[@Kumarapwmss1989]

​@@jakefrost8017bullshit

[@melchiormapa3597]

Dr. AL Fadi and Dr. Jay, your mission to the Muslims is in God's hands. Let the truth speak in your ministry. Thanks be to God.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Do you think their teachings will lead you to Paradise? Jay Smith and Abdul Fadi are dragging you to go with him to reside eternally in the raging fire of Hell. 33:66. The Day their faces will be turned about in the Fire, they will say, "How we wish we had obeyed Allah and obeyed the Messenger." 33:67. And they will say, "Our Lord, indeed we OBEYED OUR MASTERS and our DIGNITARIES, and they led us astray from the [right] way. 33:68. Our Lord, give them double the punishment and curse them with a great curse." -03-23-24

[@Pissarrio]

i am certainly enjoying and benefiting these series of videos. the things that are being discussed here have been untouchable for a long time and i am happy to see someone is putting them under the microscope as Muslims would not do that as Yaserghadi said that "we poke a little bit and then we say khalaas and dont go any further".

[@anistristan1202]

I have to say that I love watching your show. Very informative and definitely way ahead in terms of uncovering the hidden truths of Islam. I especially liked the recent episode on Quranic anachronism...

[@daduzadude1547]

Ibn Abbas said: "If parts of the Quran are lost, then complete it with poetry." Oops REFERENCE: Fath Al-Bari, Volume 13, Page 437, In Hajar Al-Asqalani Grade: Hasan

[@Calatriste54]

"The little girl was six years old.." End of discussion..

[@InfoSphereEnlightening]

Are you american?

[@JusticeforAisha888]

@@InfoSphereEnlightening she was six dont try to deny

[@stefanblumhoff2744]

How dare you insult our beloved ped, ah prophet nbubh. She was 5, get your facts straight.😮😅

[@ThrowbackandBackAgain]

“In the US literally 144 years ago (in 1880) the age of consent was 10 in most states, 7 in the state of D3l4w4r3. Still today, the age of consent can be as low as 13 in many states, and 16 with no limits.” “Age of consent in Vatican City was 12 UP UNTIL 2013.” And ok let's turn a blind eye to the fact that there have been over a millenium worth history of peeeedo priests.

[@ThrowbackandBackAgain]

“In the US literally 144 years ago (in 1880) the age of consent was 10 in most states, 7 in the state of D3l4w4r3. Still today, the age of consent can be as low as 13 in many states, and 16 with no limits.” “Age of consent in Vatican City was 12 UP UNTIL 2013.” And ok let's turn a blind eye to the fact that there have been over a millenium worth history of pee..eedo priests.

[@samuelflores1419]

As always great job. Just another hole to add to the Perfectly Preserved Holey qur'an. God bless you both and your ministry!

[@ftk-forthekingdomministrie7439]

Excellent work 👏

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Recycled work.

[@tc7500]

Great show! Magnificent work like always! 👏👏👏

[@Shiekh420]

THERE IS A REASON WHY PHILOSOPHY WAS BANNED IN THE ISLAMIC STATE. BASICALLY THAT EOULD CAUSE PEOPLE TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL OF THIS

[@ThrowbackandBackAgain]

"THE ISLAMIC STATE" ? which islamic state ? And what is "PHILOSOPHY" to you ?

[@collybever]

Presumably you mean ISIS ? There was good philosophical work done in medieval Islam, but they seem to have dropped the ball around the time that the mongols were causing devastation. They did work on Aristotle for instance, that Europeans then used themselves, but oddly this was rejected by Islamic scholars, maybe it was too open-minded an approach, and they wanted no questions during the devastation. Also the Quran would be hard to defend with totally free enquiry- Allah claims the sun sets in a muddy pool etc. The modern development of Science relied on that test, investigate, observe, examine data, kind of philosophical approach.

[@Shiekh420]

@@ThrowbackandBackAgain KALAM . AND LOGIC SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST ENEMY OF ISLAM.

[@Shiekh420]

@@collybever I AGREE WITH YOU, THEY DID SAVE PHILOSOPHY THE GREAT TRANSLATION WHERE SUPPOSEDLY THEY WOULD BUY BOOKS FROM EVERYWHERE AND PAY ITS WEIGHT IN GOLD NO MATTER THE ORIGIN, AND HAD THE ROSETTA STONE MOSTLY TRANSLATED BY THEN. BUT THEY SOON AFTER BANNED IT ON THE BASIS THAT IT WAS DEEMED HERETIC TO QUESTION ANYTHING THAT HAD TO DO WITH ISLAM . NOW IT HAS BECOME A CULT LIKE MENTALITY AND ANYONE WHO QUESTIONS ANYTHING IS ALWAYS TOLD " WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION THE HADEETH OR THE QURAN OR THE MAN OR HIS GOD?" ANYONE THAT TELLS YOU NOT TO QUESTION ANYTHING REALLY DOES NOT HAVE YOUR BEST INTEREST IN HEART OR THE INTEREST OF THEIR PEOPLE. AS A CREATION I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO QUESTION ANYTHING AND ANYONE , JUST LIKE ANY FREE HUMAN BEING . ALSO ONCE YOU LEAVE IT, THEY WILL PERSECUTE YOU AND CALL YOU A KAFIR . EVEN IF YOU STILL BELIEVE IN THE CREATOR .

[@Shiekh420]

@@collybever I HOPE YOU GOT MY REPLY BEFORE THEY REPORTED IT, WHICH HAPPENS ALOT ON KZbin DUE TO SHADOW CENSORSHIP OF KEYWORDS. ALSO WHY THESE VIDEOS HAVENT SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE.

[@greenzone7371]

Watching from Nigeria 🎉

[@morghe321]

God bless all our Christian brothers and sisters in Nigeria.

[@Enjoyinformation-hi9uo]

Professor Jay Smith looks very tired in this video. I hope his health is OK. Blessings again.

[@user-yk8id2fg4n]

Professor?

[@Leo-yx7rk]

​​@@user-yk8id2fg4n Whilst Jay Smith's qualification is Doctor, you might consider the possibility the OP is using the term "professor" in another, though equally correct manner in context of the definition of that word. "professor... n... 1... 2. Chiefly US & Canad. any teacherin a university or college. 3. a person who professes his opinions or beliefs. [Latin: a public teacher]..." (To aid proper understanding, I cannot advise strongly enough, the value of a good set of dictionaries and thesaurii. It can spare a great deal of the sorts of error, confusion, and miscommunication that perpetuates conflict).

[@Leo-yx7rk]

​@@user-yk8id2fg4nIn any event, I think it is somewhat rude, and appears not a little disingenuous to be dismissive of Dr Smith's many years of work and study, and his objectively verifiable, evidence based approach to this subject matter (which does also draw on the work of many, many others also, including Muslim scholars).

[@historyandhorseplaying7374]

He is indeed very tired... of winning!

[@DeltaDonsan]

He is keep in mind this was recorded last year

[@bartconnolly6104]

They will be saying Al Fadi admits is basing his research on a layer! Joking aside while Al Fadi here is his usual humble self Al Fadi is one of fthe leading scholars on the Sanna as his PhD is actually on the Sanaa.

[@MichaelPetek]

Isn't it more on point to observe that the Qur'an doesn't tell you how to be a Muslim? It doesn't tell you anything about the five pillars (ibadat) of Islam. In fact, the earliest legislation about ibadat is the Muwatta of Abd el Malik, promulgated by Caliph al-Mansur, the Abbasid founder of Baghdad. Where did he get the law of ibadat from?

[@bankubanga789]

Interesting

[@Stratiotis_tou_Christou]

InshahJehovah InshahYeshua ✝️☦️☦️☦️💪

[@corticallarvae]

YHVH is pronounced Yah-Whi Aa in ugaritic Canaan .

[@Stratiotis_tou_Christou]

@@corticallarvae My YHVH is only the TRIUNE GOD. Please read my comment, I do not condone the traditions of pagan Canaanites. Now, either you can refer God to the True ELAH TRIUNE GOD, or polytheist God, or some other Pagan god.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@Stratiotis_tou_Christou ...................... You said your god is a triune gods, but in your "inshah" you have only dual gods. Why did you not include your third god in your "inshah"? Who is your third god? -03-23-24

[@arastusattarad6530]

Dear brothers in Christ. May God bless you abundantly. I been looking for some news of sister Hatun. Would you share any updates

[@SatSingh-mm4gg]

Closed captions crashed and burned on this one

[@saloanyousif3308]

God bless you for your efforts

[@JustARandomUser2468]

Without Lies, Islam Dies And Without Lies, Allah Cries

[@user-ex9pc9ps8x]

Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.

[@jamalkhan3708]

One century complete this year of the Quran. Celebration 🎉 🎉🎉🎉

[@c.w_]

Time to tell Muslims to celebrate their eternal book!! 😊

[@inkyfingers3447]

Which of the 37 version of the Koran is celebrated ?

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@inkyfingers3447 ....................... Which one is good choice, a book from God? Or, a book from men? -03-23-24

[@rockzalt]

If it was a student's schooling text then what were they teaching? A student scribe hears what his teachers say and can write that down too.

[@roborob347]

How would that explain words and entire verses being different from one another? Even if they are school texts (which is unlikely) they were copying something completely different to the modern Quran.

[@mysotiras21]

Excellent point.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@mysotiras21 ............. Jay Smith is imagining that the situation in that time is the same with the situation today. He refused to know that writing materials in that time was very scarce. As such, used materials have had to be re-used by erasing what had been written before and superimposed it with the useful and important ones. This is the case of the so-called Palimpsest. -03-23-24

[@rockzalt]

@@roborob347 A student only writes down what enters his head and then he transmits it onto the paper. If he is incompetent then that's how entire verses being different are written down.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@roborob347 ........................ You mean it applies the same to the Bible?

[@alwaysgood3913]

Hey Al Fadi, will you be uploading the rest of the video series on Psalms with Rev Anthony Rogers?

[@anastasiamamis6441]

I watch a lot of videos but one that caught my attention is one shares by new brothers. It took him years for studying and comparing other book with the Holy Bible. He came to Christ and cfm Bible is the truth.

[@TheCrawfojo]

I have a question about abrogation If a verse is said to be abrogated are there any cases were the original verse was deleted or completely replaced

[@TheCrawfojo]

No evidence just an educated guess on my part@@whatistheevidence370

[@BertoKinawa]

Abrogated or not Quran is wrong, here is the proof: *Premise 1:* J and M gave different requirements for Heaven. ¹) *Conclusion 1:* Either J or M gave false requirements for Heaven. *Premise 2:* A prophet does not give false requirements for Heaven. *Conclusion 2:* Either J or M was not a prophet. *Premise 3:* The Quran says both were prophets. *Conclusion 3:* The Quran is wrong. It is not the word of God. *Premise 4:* M said J was a prophet. *conclusion 4:* M was not a prophet. Note 1: According to M 5 pillars is mandatory for Heaven. It is impossible Jesus said that, 5 pillars is mandatory, 5 pillars was not available at Jesus time. If you can not point out which premise is wrong and which reasoning to draw the conclusions is not sound you have to admit that the conclusions are valid.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@whatistheevidence370 .................... In the current situation, when a law is repelled, it is not called abrogated, but it is called superseded. The present law superseded the previous law. -03-23-24

[@stlouisix3]

The Quwrong is a very diverse group of different, varying books 📖 with many holey holes 🕳️ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Are you referring to the Bible?

[@stlouisix3]

​@@defenderoftruth3212, are you referring to your 'incorruptible, preserved, perfect Word of God-Lah/al-lah Bible'?

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@stlouisix3 .................. Don't get easily irritated. I would not dare to criticize the Bible if I have not read it from cover to cover. And I can give as many holes as you like if you like. How about you? Did you dare to read the Qur'an? I know of many Christians in my community who are afraid to touch the Qur'an. What more to read it? And if I were to choose between the Qur'an and the Bible, I would not give a second thought. I would right away choose the Qur'an. Why? Because in the Qur'an, it's all revelations from God. While in the Bible, I did not find a single revelation from God. It is all being told by third person/s. That is for the Old Testament. In the New Testament, nothing. It's all stories told by Mark, Matthew, Luke, John and Paul. These 5 persons are supposed to be the authors of the New Testament. Never mind for the Old Testament. It's being plagiarized, anyway, word for word by the Bible writers from the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh). It's the look-out of the Jewish Rabbis to know its author or authors. -04-29-24

[@TheCrawfojo]

thanks

[@TheCrawfojo]

I suspect that the Quran was originally inspired by God but later changed some how. I specifically I suspect the verses about Christs crucifixion were changed with some other verses

[@user-jn9dl9px6r]

Most likely based on a heretical teaching and evolved into syncretism.

[@patttrick]

Nah

[@YolandaLocasalas]

It was inspired by a false God of course.

[@zeroch1ll150]

The quran is pieces of all the religions of that time. It has aspects of all pagen religions, Judaism, and Christianity.

[@TheCrawfojo]

So God let them deceive 2 billion believers?

[@stefanblumhoff2744]

Are there any links anywhere that give a quran and its english translation that translate the words prayers and blessings correctly. I noticed that when proof checking texts for online qurans that they mistranslate blessing and prayer

[@--MattBlack--]

An eternal Quran in clear arabic is impossible. The arabic language devoloped from proto arabic and from Proto-Afro-Asiatic. Also the Quran isn't even complete according to Ibn Umar who said: "Let none of you say 'I have acquired the whole of the Qur'an'. How does he know what all of it is when much of the Qur'an has disappeared? Rather let him say 'I have acquired what has survived.'" (as-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur'an, p.524).

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Since it was in Mecca where Adam had landed, isn't it that Arabic is the oldest language in the world? -03-25-24

[@sopwithsnoopy8779]

Has Dr. Jay read any of Keith Small's works? From my understanding, Small was a leading expert on the history of the Quran.

[@secondtimothy-four1-4]

If someone (like me) wants to see and check for himself the original Islamic manuscripts online, where is or are the best online place(s)?

[@truefaith4200]

We are fed up with islam telling lies without ending!

[@ThrowbackandBackAgain]

You're blinded by your own lies 😂

[@BertoKinawa]

Isra Mi'raj and splitting the moon are the biggest clear fat lies in history, Muhammed still didn't know the sun doesn't set until he died.

[@martinjackman2943]

@@ThrowbackandBackAgain The psychological term for your statement is "projection" All faiths are " lies" because they profess as truth things which are not objectively provable... But Islam goes one stage further.. it enshrines falsehoods as part of its core belief

[@defenderoftruth3212]

If that the case, don't bother to know Islam. Just stay in your religion if you think it has no lies. If the allegations made by Jay Smith had already convinced you that Islam is telling lies, then just keep on praying to your "triune" gods. After all, in the Hereafter, we will be able to know exactly is what is the Truth. If yours is the Truth, yours is Paradise, ours is Hell. But if ours is the Truth, then ours is Paradise, yours is Hell. -03-23-24

[@BertoKinawa]

@@defenderoftruth3212 M was not a prophet, and Quran is wrong, here is the proof: *Premise 1:* J and M gave different requirements for Heaven. ¹) *Conclusion 1:* Either J or M gave false requirements for Heaven. *Premise 2:* A prophet does not give false requirements for Heaven. *Conclusion 2:* Either J or M was not a prophet. *Premise 3:* The Quran says both were prophets. *Conclusion 3:* The Quran is wrong. It is not the word of God. *Premise 4:* M said J was a prophet. *conclusion 4:* M was not a prophet. Note 1: According to M 5 pillars is mandatory for Heaven. It is impossible Jesus said that, 5 pillars is mandatory, 5 pillars was not available at Jesus time. If you can not point out which premise is wrong and which reasoning to draw the conclusions is not sound you have to admit that the conclusions are valid.

[@leonielson7138]

My theory is that there are two Muhammads, the Prophet and the Plagiarist.

[@Brotherdirt1]

Muhammad was a plagiarist

[@YolandaLocasalas]

The false prophet*

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@YolandaLocasalas ........................... Call him any name you want, but in the Hereafter, there is no one you can run to for intercession to Allah SWT but only to him. While the Unbelievers of Islam are languishing in the raging fire of Hell, no prophets shall be granted by Allah SWT, not even Prophet jESUs (pbuh), to get near Him, but only Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). And Allah SWT will grant the pulling out from Hell those that at least there is an iota of belief in their hearts that Allah SWT is the One and Only True God. -03-23-24

[@historyandhorseplaying7374]

To which book are you referring at the end sir?

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

You'd think that this research would result in a mass exodus from that false religion but if honest research was the solution then Catholicism would have been emptied out hundreds of years ago. I very much appreciate all that your both have done to bring light to a VERY dark part of the religious world. May God continue to bless and to prosper you both.

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

@@garybowings1538 - Huh? I'm funny but "EVERYONE?" Why I run for Christian bible? Do you mean the New Testament? The bible is bigger than the "Christian" part. Next question.

[@mikejohnson5059]

How old was the mosque where these skins with writings found?

[@suzannakoizumi8605]

Jesus of The New Testament is a different person than jesus of the quaran.

[@mozi4305]

Why in the Quran many many time Kaaanaa ( Was & Were ) but Very few Time Huwa ( is or He Is ) ??? Is it Copy From other Books ???

[@davidabramovichkosciuszko4216]

👍

[@patttrick]

Next year in Jerusalem.

[@user-vi9iu7er8p]

Who is the prince of lies? Who is anti Christ? No other than satan right? Now go figure who is the god of muslim.

[@nathanshiferaw9498]

Three Eyes Two Right Hands One Chin and One Left foot that’s grow test and why does Allah need a chin 🤨🤨 if Allah has body parts that means those body parts require time and space so in theory Allah does not own one left foot two right hands and his three eyes chin it’s common sense.

[@ruthl3909]

Without lies Islam dies

[@JustARandomUser2468]

And without lies, Allah cries.

[@midimusicforever]

Islam busted again!

[@user-xb3xl5ic7v]

Can you please encourage Adam seeker on you tube he is working among Pakistani Muslim just like you are doing, please mentioned my name to him. God bless

[@shirleyharso2232]

If Islam is the right religion why should they need to defend themselves by just attacking the Hebrew and Christian Holy Bible?

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@shirleyharso2232 ....................... Who is making videos attacking the Bible? None. Who is making videos attacking the Qur'an? Jay Smith, Abdul Fadi, Mel, etc. etc. Lots of the Christian missionaries. -05-09-24

[@ericmbiti]

Without lies Islam die

[@kingjames6928]

Halal version and haram version. 😅

[@maiaki8703]

3 main versions of Quran. Pedo version 72 version Bending version 😂😂😂

[@ibrahimabdaziz1056]

Dont base the qur'an on translation you read the original qur'an b4 you took abaot qur'an.

[@shirleyharso2232]

Smart people believe and follow " the living Lord Jesus Christ who is heaven" and will NEVER believe and follow the self-claimed prophet whose body has decayed in grave!

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@shirleyharso2232 ..................... Your comparison is an admission that Prophet jESUs pbuh is nothing but a mere prophet. -05-09-24

[@almazchati4178]

It is good that you started seeing double, I thought you were seeing 30-40 versions before. It looks like your vision is improving, but still need to see a good doctor. If that does not help, practice some counting!

[@daduzadude1547]

Here is a list of the 10 readers Nafi al-Madani (d. 785 AD) Ibn Kathir al Makki (d. 738 AD) Abu'Amr Ibn al-'Ala (d. 770 AD) Ibn Amir ad-Dimashqi (d. 736 AD) Aasim Ibn Abi al-Najud (d. 745 AD) Hamzah az-Zalyyat (d. 773 AD) Al-Kisa'i (d. 804 AD) Abu Ja'far (Medina - d. 748 AD) Ya'qub al-Yamani (Basra - d. 821 AD) Khalaf (Kufa - 844 AD) The following is a list of the transmitters Qalun (835 AD) Al-Bazzi (d. 864 AD) Al-Duri (d. 860) Hisham (d.859 AD) Shu'bah (d. 809 AD) Khalaf (d. 844 AD) Al-Layth (d. 854 AD) Isa ibn Wardan (d. 777 AD) Ruways (d. 853 AD) Ishaq (d. 899 AD) Warsh (812 AD) Qunbul (d. 904 AD) Al-Susi (d. 874 AD) Ibn Dhakwan (d. 856 AD) Hafs (d. 796 AD) Khallad (d. 835 AD) Al-Duri (d. 860 AD) Ibn Jummaz (d. 787 AD) Rawh (d. 849 AD) Idris (d. 905 AD) You are able to order any of these online. Among all these different Qira'ats, there is an overwhelming 93,000 differences. The one chosen to be the standard Qira'at in Cairo was Hafs, in 1924. Hafs was a student/transmitter who died in 796 AD. He lived in Kufa.

[@almazchati4178]

@@daduzadude1547 Kiraat is the permissible readings, which does not affect the meaning. New England English and Texas droll are two different kiraats. You people know this and still insist on it is wrong. Why don't know condemn Texans to hell for reading your Bible with different sounding English?

[@daduzadude1547]

@@almazchati4178 dude. If you understood Arabic you would know how wrong that statement is. Your Dawahgandist fool you because they know you don’t know better. Case in point: Are we Christians the “worst of creatures doomed for hell” as per Hafs, or the “most innocent of creatures doomed for hell” as per Warsh?

[@BertoKinawa]

​@@almazchati4178 M was not a prophet, and Quran is wrong, here is the proof: *Premise 1:* J and M gave different requirements for Heaven. ¹) *Conclusion 1:* Either J or M gave false requirements for Heaven. *Premise 2:* A prophet does not give false requirements for Heaven. *Conclusion 2:* Either J or M was not a prophet. *Premise 3:* The Quran says both were prophets. *Conclusion 3:* The Quran is wrong. It is not the word of God. *Premise 4:* M said J was a prophet. *conclusion 4:* M was not a prophet. Note 1: According to M 5 pillars is mandatory for Heaven. It is impossible Jesus said that, 5 pillars is mandatory, 5 pillars was not available at Jesus time. If you can not point out which premise is wrong and which reasoning to draw the conclusions is not sound you have to admit that the conclusions are valid.

[@daduzadude1547]

@@almazchati4178 you very clearly don’t speak Arabic…

[@savagelifeboxing22]

Jesus is God!

[@dudeduderinoduderino9689]

Its either eternal and without mistakes or its not?..IF it is with mistakes then Islam's koran is false,

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Just verify it when you get to go to heaven. Will you be able to go to? -05-09-24

[@dudeduderinoduderino9689]

@@defenderoftruth3212 In the koran your allah created the heaven and earth, yes? In the Bible and the Torah Jesus did. John 1/1-51, John 14/6, John 17/1-26. To your question the answer is yes, Because God came in the flesh and atoned for my sins in his place. Because I believe God and his word, Jesus Christ.

[@user-vo4xw6mf4r]

U understand it as 3 God's...that's your understanding ...not ours ..Are u a son ...are you a father ...are you a grandfather ..how many are u .....

[@mysotiras21]

LIAR!!! NO Christian EVER claimed to believe in 3 Gods. Comment reported.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@mysotiras21 ............................. The Father is in an unknown heaven. The Son was crucified here on earth. The Holy Spirit is flying everywhere. -03-25-24

[@mysotiras21]

@@defenderoftruth3212 , NOPE. The Father is KNOWN in heaven, since He IS our LOVING Father. ONLY ISLAM worships an unknown, totally transcendent "god". The Son ROSE from the grave and is now in heaven. The Holy Spirit PERMEATES all the Universe, but RESIDES in those who place their faith in Christ. The next time you blatantly LIE about Christianity, I will report you for it. You have been warned about this MANY times.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@mysotiras21 ............................ Hi, crying baby! I'm not talking about whether the Father is known or not. I said: The Father is IN an unknown heaven. The Son was crucified here on earth. The Holy Spirit is flying everywhere. It means they are NOT one because they reside in separate places. Before you cry, read first carefully what you are reading. -04-02-24

[@irfanmehmud63]

You didn't discuss the argument on which Asma Hilali came to the conclusion of being a "schooled text". There is a phrase before the chapter Touba in the lower text: "Don't write Bismillah before this...". This indicates it was a classroom practice where a teacher was dictating students and hence the instruction of not writing the Bismillah which the student mistakenly wrote as well thinking it as a part of Quranic text.

[@123dsj123]

I must admit - you have a wealth of recollections (memories). You said that the many errors in the Sana’a Palimpsest were classroom practice work-sheet mistakes whereby a teacher was dictating Quran to students. Tell me, how many students were in the classroom, and what year did this happen?

[@ThrowbackandBackAgain]

@@123dsj123 Are you going to become Muslim if he states the source or are you going to go "ok anyway..." 😂

[@mysotiras21]

Parchment was simply to valuable to waste on school students. And even if that were the case, WHAT was that student learning from his instructors, to come up with a Qur'an so vastly different from that on the top layer???

[@xavierbesnard9201]

Pas de changement...jusqu'à la prochaine modification.

[@mysotiras21]

Things were CHANGED between the two layers of the palimpsest. had that not been the case, this video would not have been made. Faites attention s'il vous plaît!

[@corticallarvae]

These issues exist in all of the abrahamic faiths they are all taken from the epistles of many …

[@Islam_Unmasked]

Exactly 👍​@@garybowings1538

[@ThrowbackandBackAgain]

@@garybowings1538 "perfect preservation" LMAO

[@mysotiras21]

NOPE. You will NOT find a Biblical palimpsest in which the two layers of text differ widely.

[@ThrowbackandBackAgain]

@@mysotiras21 Do you specifically referring to "Biblical palimpsests" or The whole Bible itself ?

[@mysotiras21]

@@ThrowbackandBackAgain, since this video is about a Qur'anic palimpsest, the only genuine comparison would be with a BIBLICAL palimpsest. To my knowledge, there aren't any. And even if there were, you would NOT find that the lower level of the text differed markedly from the upper level. the THOUSANDS of early Biblical manuscripts we have match each other quite closely, differing mainly on minor matters such as spelling and word order. These do NOT affect the Gospel message in any way.

[@y.israel922]

Keep barking 🦮

[@mysotiras21]

You mean - Keep DESTROYING Islam with FACTS, LOGIC, and EVIDENCE. Don't worry, they will.

[@user-vp8pg3zq3m]

*MUSLIMS LOVE JESUS AS PROPHET. JEWS & ATHEISTS DON'T LIKE AND REJECT JESUS. JESUS IS NOT GOD. PROOFS BELOW:* 1) John 5:30 (Good News Edition, Today’s English Version): *“I can do nothing on my own authority. I JUDGE ONLY AS GOD TELLS ME so judgment is right, because I am not trying to do what I want, but only what he who SENT ME wants.”* 2) John 12:49 - *For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who SENT ME commanded me what to say and how to say it"* 3) John 14:24 - *"He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who SENT ME"*

[@kawseralam5969]

Muslim claimed lot of version of bible is available.

[@mysotiras21]

Muslims LIE. All they really mean is that there are different TRANSLATIONS of the Bible. BFD. There are MANY English translations of the Qur'an as well, and they DON'T all say the same things.

[@jamalbaraja6130]

I live in Sana'a and what these two liars claim is not true because the second layer was done by someone who was a student trying to learn in his own words and it was for his own understanding and it certainly was not an original script. I personally visited the grand mosque and found that an original script of the Quran at the time of Ali the prophets cousin and son on law is available with them from the time of the prophet.

[@bankubanga789]

All that you have no proof of 😅what student? What's his name and age? The sana is suppose to be the oldest so bunk.your visit to a mosque if that quran isn't the oldest and btw what version of the quran was it?' The hafs?Warsh or what?

[@user-vp8pg3zq3m]

*FACTS - ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD TODAY. MUSLIMS LOVE JESUS AND JESUS LOVES ISLAM* .

[@Kumarapwmss1989]

Fastest babies breeding religion in the world

[@thejohnwhiteproject5202]

Nope! Islam is a failing religion. Mosques are closing and Muslims are finding Jesus of the Bible. That is something that your Ima n won’t tell you. Do your research honest and fairly.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@Kumarapwmss1989 ....................... You mean Christians are not anymore breeding babies? -04-02-24

[@GabrielEddy]

There are thousands of verifiable textual variants among the New Testament manuscripts. Response?

[@aaronmusa234]

how silly. I mean really these guys are embarrassing themselves. their own biblical scholars. erman. metzger Owens. lewis concluded after years of research ' there are 50000 biblical manuscripts no two alike. none of the gospels were written by any apostle. John 3 16. and mark resurrection were added in much later ' oy vey. muslim 2002 ps pastor Bosworth smith ' the quran is the only scripture preserved in its original language'.

[@mysotiras21]

LOL!!! SERIOUYSLY??? There are 5000 Biblical manuscripts with MINOR variations between them, mainly spelling and word order. These DO NOT affect the Gospel message AT ALL. Moreover, Christians do NOT claim that God wrote the Bible, nor that it has been "perfectly preserved". Different for Islam. if your god wrote the Qur'an then WHY are there so many ERRORS and CONTRADICTIONS in it??? is Allah simply stupid??? And if it has been perfectly preserved, then WHY are there 37 DIFFERENT Arabic Qur'ans today, with 93,000 differences between them??? MANY of those differences change the meaning of the text.

[@aaronmusa234]

@@garybowings1538 bible followers ...your own bible scholars have confirmed there are 50000 biblical manuscripts no two alike and none of the gospels were even written by any apostle. bible followers response / there is a verse missing out of a surah /chapter ' looooool last one out of church hit the lights

[@mysotiras21]

@@garybowings1538, BINGO!!! I LOVE the story of Abdullah Ibn Sa'd Abi Sarh. The Islamic sources themselves record how several people realized that Muhammad was a charlatan.

[@mysotiras21]

My reply to you seems to have disappeared. The differences between those 5,000 bible manuscripts are mostly MINOE manners of spelling and word order. These DON'T affect the Gospel message AT ALL. Moreover, NO Christian EVER claimed that the Bible was written by a god, or that it has been perfectly preserved. Islam has painted itself into a corner with these patently false assertions about the Qur'an. You are therefore guilty of false equivalence, not to mention the logical fallacy of whataboutism.

[@aaronmusa234]

@@garybowings1538 bible confessed Jeremiah 8 8 ' scribes falsified the Bible with their lying pens ' christian scholars ' 50k biblical manuscripts no two alike ' christian apologist responds ' Muhammad added in ' and blessed be allah ' lol

[@necmettinmutlu306]

The lower layer and the upper layer in Sana manuscripts may be the Arabic meaning of the Quran. So it could be someone's attempt to write a translation. These scrolls don't mean anything. you are wasting your time.

[@mysotiras21]

These scrolls DESTROY the Muslim claim of perfect preservation. That is hardly a waste of time.

[@necmettinmutlu306]

@@mysotiras21 Let's say it was changed, the order of the verses was changed The words in the verse have changed The meanings of words have changed. They replaced the prophet's interpretation with another interpretation. God already warns us about this. If there is a mistake in the Quran, you will re-interpret it. The prophet has already reinterpreted it. So, in order to claim that the Quran is wrong, you will have to reinterpret it. If there is a deficiency or inadequacy, then you are right. The first thing we need to do right now is to reinterpret the holy books. We shouldn't do anything else about religion Re-interpret the book from beginning to end and then see if there are any shortcomings. If there is deficiency, it means there is no God. If there is no God, it means there is no one to save us from hell.

[@mysotiras21]

@@necmettinmutlu306 , the only "scripture" that needs complete re-evaluation and reinterpretation is the Qur'an. Why? Because it started as a CHRISTIAN Aramaic lectionary, but was translated WROGLY into Arabic to be used as the scripture for a totally different religion. Oh, and please DON'T drag Muhammad into this. Islamic Muhammad NEVER existed. He is a FABLE that later Muslims INVENTED to explain the rise of Islam. ZERO 7th century historical evidence for such a person. Let's stick to facts rather than fairytales.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@mysotiras21 ......................... As per thorough study of Bart Ehrman, the Dead Sea Scrolls have nothing to do with Prophet jESUs (pbuh). It is about the culture and tradition of the Gnostic people living in the bank of the Dead Sea. -04-02-24

[@mysotiras21]

@@defenderoftruth3212, LOL!!! SERIOUSLY??? Peanut, I know you stone-kissers view Ehrman as a demi-god because he rejects Christianity, but this is absurd. Ehrman is JUST a New Testament scholar, and not even a particularly good one. He has NO expertise on the Dead Sea Scrolls AT ALL. Moreover, the Dead Sea Scrolls CONTAIN the Tanakh, so they contain ALL of the Messianic prophecies that point to Jesus.

[@mhamedkhattabi5863]

jay smith always hides the fact millions of muslims in those days knew koran by heart so there is no way that book can be corrupted like we cant corrupt today book that was printed and millions of copies were sold

[@mhamedkhattabi5863]

@@garybowings1538 i am talking about throughout ages . jay is frustrated because history bible is not like koran . we dont even know who the hell wrote those 4 gospels. on the other hand koran was wriiten and memorised during time of the prophet

[@YolandaLocasalas]

​@@mhamedkhattabi5863We don't know who wrote the Quran and as you see, your prophet FORGOT verses of the Qur'an, so we cannot rely on memorization.

[@mhamedkhattabi5863]

@@YolandaLocasalas go and get informed first then come back . islamic sources are full of how koran was written

[@mhamedkhattabi5863]

@@garybowings1538 read this first The Caliphate had grown considerably, expanding into Iraq, Syria, Egypt, and Iran, bringing into Islam's fold many new converts from various cultures with varying degrees of isolation.[36] It is believed that the general Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman reported this problem to the caliph and asked him to establish a unified text. According to the history of al-Tabari, during the expedition there were 10,000 Kufan warriors, 6,000 in Azerbaijan and 4,000 at Rayy.[37] A large number of soldiers disagreeing about the correct way of reciting the Quran may have caused Hudhayfah to promote a unified text. An example of the confusion at this time is seen during a campaign in Tabaristan, where one of the soldiers asked Hudhayfah, "How did the Messenger of God pray?" Hudhayfah told him the soldier prayed before fighting.[38]

[@Islam_Unmasked]

You mean Islamic sources are full of lies about how the Quran was written. ALL of the information about how the Quran came to be written 200 to 300 years after Muhammad and Uthman 🤨

[@user-kx9mz8me7o]

The Holy Qur'an is the final heavenly book containing the fully truthful words of the only true god Allah. The only true god Allah is the protector of The Qur'an. The Qur'an has only one version and it will remain unchanged forever because the only true god Allah is The Protector of The Holy Qur'an.

[@maiaki8703]

What about their most favourite book the 72 version? 😂😂😂

[@hollyaldahir5116]

EARLIEST COPIES OF THE QURAN:According to Wiki: The Birmingham Quran manuscript is a parchment on which two leaves of an early Quranic manuscript are written. In 2015 the manuscript, which is held by the University of Birmingham,[1] was radiocarbon dated to between 568 and 645 CE (in the Islamic calendar, between 56 BH and 25 AH).[2][3] It is part of the Mingana Collection of Middle Eastern manuscripts, held by the university's Cadbury Research Library.[2] The manuscript is written in ink on parchment, using an Arabic Hijazi script and is still clearly legible.[3] The leaves preserve parts of Surahs 18 (Al-Kahf) to 20 (Taha).[4] It was on display at the University of Birmingham in 2015 and then at Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery until 5 August 2016.[5] The Cadbury Research Library has carried out multispectral analysis of the manuscript and XRF analysis of the inks.[6]....The codex Parisino-petropolitanus is one of the oldest extant manuscripts of the Quran, attributed to the 7th century.The largest part of the fragmentary manuscript are held at the Bibliothèque nationale de France, Paris, as BnF Arabe 328(ab), with 70 folia. Another 46 folia are kept in the National Library of Russia in Saint-Petersburg. Two additional folia have been preserved, one kept in the Vatican Library (Vat. Ar. 1605/1) and the other in the Khalili Collections in London (KFQ 60)." In any case, there is controversy as to whether this manuscript was written during the last years of the Prophet, or under Abu Bakr or Uthman, both of whom were close companions of the Prophet, were known to memorize the entire Quran and were engaged in the written preservation of the Quran. So, there is no argument about the integrity of the manuscript; that it does date from the last years of the Prophets life to no later than the caliphate of Umar ibn Affan.

[@stephensipe5405]

The problem with the Quran and even Muhammad is 2 fold. 1ST, in Aramaic and later Arabic, the title Makmed, the Blessed One or Anointed One, is spelled the same as the name Muhammad. The only difference between Makmed and Muhammad is tick marks not in existence in the early 600AD period. 2ND, after Rome exiled Jews from Israel to places outside Roman Empire borders, some Jews ended up in Baghdad. The line of Rabbis leading this exiled group of Jews was called Makmed, the Anointed One. One the last leaders of this group was Solomon The Pharisee. This name is often mistranslated into Arabic as Sulaman The Farsi. He was part of a group of rebels attacking Roman in Jerusalem in the early 600s. He was known as Makmed, Suleman The Farsi until slain in battle. There was a caravan merchant named Muhammad. He did steal a pagan meteor stone from Petra and take it to Medina, and ultimately to Mecca. This Muhammad was murdered by poisoning in 632AD. His dying words were, “I feel like my aorta is being cut!” Ironically, this Muhammad stated GOD with slay false prophets by cutting their aorta. So how did this all get made into the story of Muhammad and the Quran we have today? I would not blame it all on Uthman. A Jewish Christian denomination called the Nazarenes, spoke and wrote in Aramaic, and referred to Jesus the Messiah as Makmed, the Praised or Anointed One. The exiled Jews in Baghdad called the leader Solomon The Pharisee, Makmed, the Anointed One. A caravan trader named Muhammad got fame stealing the black meteor and bringing it to Medina, then Mecca. Ulthman wrote 50 years AFTER the Muhammad the caravan leader was murdered. He probably heard stories about his conquests for his Medina tribe. He looked at Jewish Christian Makmed, Baghdad Jewish Leader, Makmed, and the caravan conquerer Muhammad, and could not distinguish the Arabic spelling differences from Makmed and Muhammad!!! This means many early Shura in the Quran are actually Aramaic writings of Jewish Christian Nazarenes who called Jesus only by Makmed, the Praised One. Modern New Testament Gospels had these same passages with the name Jesus. Additionally, Uthman used the writings of Solomon The Pharisee by changing the name to Suleman The Farsi. He listed the conquering of Jerusalem and Petra as Muhammad’s achievements, when these were really Makmed Solomon The Pharisee achievements. Finally, Uthman ties it all to the caravan conquerer named Muhammad who was murdered in 632AD. Then Uthman burned all the Jewish Christian Nazarene writings, the Jewish Baghdad writings of Solomon The Pharisee/Sulaman The Farsi, and any writings about Muhammad the caravan conquerer. This left only his Quran as evidence. But alas, the controversy continued. Why was there still Quranic controversy? There are 2 reasons. 1ST, the Arabic script used by Uthman was not so well defined that copiers and readers of the text, made different interpretations. Other scribes wrote these down as original. Overtime, no one knows which was authentic. This is still true today.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@stephensipe5405 ........................... Just ask yourself, why if there in no Prophet Muhammad pbuh, why there is Qur'an and Islam? -04-29-24

[@stephensipe5405]

@@defenderoftruth3212 This is an easy answer. Pagan Arabs were allied with Jewish Pharisees in exile in the area today called Baghdad. The Jews had Religious Academies in cities called Sura and Hadithia. The Jewish leaders were called Exilarchs. They were called the Anointed Ones, or in Aramaic which they spoke, Makmed. In Aramaic and Arabic script, both the Title Makmed and the name Mohammad/Muhammad are spelled the same IF no tick marks are used. In fact, even Jewish Christians called Nazarenes referred in Gospels and hymns to Jesus using the title Makmed. The only certain historical things about a camel caravan conqueror named Mohammad or Muhammad was: he stole a Black Stone from Petra and moved it to Medina; he was murdered in 632AD by Jewish women whose husband he slaughtered; and that many campfire stories were told about him. In about 750AD to 790AD, literate Arabs collected 1,000s of writings of Jewish Academics and Jewish Christians. To these, they wrote down oral histories based on campfire tales. These Arabs actually inserted Jewish Christian Nazarene writings about Jesus, using the Title Makmed, and mistranslating it as Mohammad. These same Arabs changed Jewish Academics into Arabs! Solomon The Pharisee became Suleman Al-Farsi, and Et Herman became Uthman. Whenever Makmed was used by these Jewish scholars taking about their Exilarch using Makmed, it too became Mohammad. Finally, the real person named Mohammad was added to all of these writings. This is why Islam today has 6+ Qurans and 70+ Readings interpretations. The 1924 version was an attempt to try to create 1 Quran, but this is not universal. I believe Arab leaders tried to create a faith based on Arabic to further their political and military goals. All they ended up doing was codifying Arab paganism around a Black Rock; enshrining it in a city that never was, Mecca; and diverting Arabs away from their true Savior, Jesus the Messiah, the Christ. What a waste of energy!!!

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@stephensipe5405 ................... Just hope your faith is not just a waste of energy. Hope Prophet jESUs pbuh, the Messiah, will save you from the raging fire of Hell. Hope your Bible will be accepted by God as His book, though it is only written by men out of their mere ideas and opinions, and assumptions. -05-09-24

[@stephensipe5405]

@@defenderoftruth3212 I hope you never have to go through an experience like mine to know GOD is here now and has been always. I do not guess about what will come. I am beyond belief and know. I hope your heart is opened without my drama. If I can give you guidance, ask and I will answer to the best of my ability with Holy Spirit help if needed.

[@Correct-Information-]

Based on what I have heard from this video, I can tell that the information 1st of all is not accurate. Also, the majority of the video was [ Let's assume,' or stating possibilities ] And if we go by the same concept, here is a link that shows how many times the Bible was edited: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_verses_not_included_in_modern_English_translations I believe it would be more beneficial if the information shared with the audience correct or stating that you are not aware of it 100%.

[@mysotiras21]

YAWN. Stop whining like a brat on a playground and show us EVIDENCE that Jay is wrong. CHANGING the topic to Bible-bashing does not help your case. Whataboutism is a LOGICAL FALLACY.