There's a Problem with Makita Makpacs and I am GOING TO FIX IT!

[@coolbugfacts1234]

Just spray the latches with some armor-all or similar car interior protectant, and they'll snap together perfectly. I have gen 1 systainers from the early 2000s that have turned dark beige from sun exposure, and they snap together perfectly.

[@ShadowFoam]

Thanks for the tip! Much appreciated!

[@troyqueen9503]

Brian Sedge from Festool did a video of that.👍🇨🇦

[@chriswade9616]

Makita fanboys are something else. They're shit boxes with shitty latches and Makita should revisit their design rather than me having to DIY them so they're less shit.

[@cyclemoto8744]

thanks for the tip

[@cyclemoto8744]

@@chriswade9616 I fail to understand why anyone would be a fan of the Macpacs unless they acquired them for free or heavily discounted. In terms of good functionality and reasonable price, in my opiion Toughbuilt wins.

[@TheDREAD666]

Instead of filing the latches, just use some silicone oil. They still hold properly, but run extremely smooth. In my experience, the oil stays on quite long. By the way: the Makpacs are compatible with the Systainers by Festool (basically, they are the Systainer Classic). However, they have to be in the bottom as the T-Loc makes it impossible to put them on top.

[@ShadowFoam]

Good tip there! I’d mentioned the connection between Festool and Makpacs too!

[@Rodasfast]

berner clic are the same

[@michaelfairchild]

Festool newer version only have bottom clips, so you can stack up them on Makpacs, but you cant other way around. Old Festool systainers are compatible with current Makpac. New version of Festool sortainers and systainers have that only for to be compatible with older style.

[@jamesccutts]

@@ShadowFoam They also work with the Metabo Metaloc (older) and Metabox (newer) organisers, though again only they only work on the top of the classic systainers, makpac's.

[@michaelfairchild]

You should start making top panels too for the Makpacs. As per Makpac itself, I always file down the latches, but check it everytime I sand it to be moving smoothly and staying in place. First thing I do though is peeling those pesky stickers and then using WD40 for remaining glue.

[@ShadowFoam]

Might end up doing a part 2 with all these top tips! Thanks mate

[@sachae321]

Best upgrade I did - pictures of the tools and accessories that I've put in the case on a sticker since I got my cases separately.

[@ShadowFoam]

That’s such an underrated top tip! I love it!

[@m0aze611]

Used these for bout 7 years now, have a few Festool ones, I have to say they are great. Yes the latches are a pain, I also have the Festool dolly which if the Makita is like is an absolute god send. Great vid thanks 👍🏻

[@ShadowFoam]

Festool are seriously underrated boxes, shall have to do a video about them in the future!

[@timderks5960]

It amazes me that nobody here seems to have mentioned that the latches work fine, but only after you've used them for a bit. I've got a few makpacs that've been around for a while and have been used quite a bit, they open perfectly fine with barely any effort. I've also got one that's basically brand new, and that one indeed is horrible to open, like they all are in the beginning. They just have to wear in, you don't have to do anything special to them. You can, sure, but I'd definitely try greasing before filing. You can always remove grease, can't put back what you filed away.

[@ShadowFoam]

Interesting point mate, I've had my cases a few years now, and they make this noise, how long do they need to eb in use for this noise to stop?

[@timderks5960]

@@ShadowFoam I haven't had mine for that long, 4 years max, and don't even use them that frequently, but they've never made that noise, maybe on a few occasions. I was more focused on how hard they are to open. That definitely improves after a little while.

[@jordenkraaijeveld569]

I have a few for 6 months now and don’t have any problem with the latches

[@MrAkwaholic]

The filing simply speeds up the wearing in process. Silky smooth from the start.

[@mirceaalex8313]

They work fine but after a while from 4 you end up with 2 of them. That was literally the only reason why I after my tools got stolen from my van instead of buying Makita again I went for DeWalt. Same or arguably better quality, same price but way way better boxes for tools without buying something extra.

[@Bastelcontainer]

I threw nearly all my Makpacs out and replaced them with T-Loc Systainers. The Classic Systainers aka Makpacs are dinosaurs of a storage solutions. The earlier you get rid of them, the better it gets

[@frankcurley]

Many skinned knuckles as a result of those clasps. But I detested having the continous unstacking to get at what you wanted. As soon as Milwaukee came out with the drawer selection on their Packout series, I switched over on a weekend.

[@ShadowFoam]

Agree with you, that’s why I thought highlighting the Makita drawer system was opportune 👌

[@cristianpaulmartinez52]

instead of filing the latches. I put beeswax / skateboard surfboard wax rubbed it on the latches and tracks for them. worked well easy to close and quieter.

[@ShadowFoam]

Great idea! Thanks for sharing!

[@AdamSuffolk-f7q]

Would be good and interested to see a video on how you can use your shadow form for track saw and circular saws. I have a track saw, two circular saws and a metal saw. Seems harder to organise them as I only like drawers in the packout.

[@ShadowFoam]

Closest we’ve done so far is this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJbQqmd7m7JgpJIsi=2wDDAh0QQp9r0aCR

[@bobojames8978]

I use Makita tools and Milwaukee packout. Makita cases I’ve found are very brittle And shatter easily in cold weather. Milwaukee doesn’t seem bothered with extremely cold weather.

[@ShadowFoam]

I’ll have to try them out in extreme cold, what a great idea!

[@irishhandyman2009]

Ive been using Packout for 3 yrs now. Those carry all sorts of Makita tools. I have dropped the boxes and have yet to damage boxes or tools inside. My ONLY compaint is that the lids are black. Dont leave lids sealed with tools inside under direct sunlight. I rattle caned them white. The packouts with clear lids amplify direct sunlight. I just unlatch and let lid rest. I love my teal tools but they missed out on more of my money on tool boxes.

[@joeshepherd4412]

Personally i use the milwaukee packout half boxes for most part due to having a small van and the better build quality but recently dug out my old makpac boxes and bought the incerts for them to uses for all my screws and fittings ect on the van as they a lot better size for my van than lot other brand boxes and relatively well priced if I decide to add more

[@ShadowFoam]

Id love to see how those inserts have turned out!

[@Brucey367]

Thank you for the tip of filing the latches, my boxes are so easy to open now 😊

[@ShadowFoam]

Happy to help!

[@peterthill]

@@ShadowFoam Sometimes it can go so easy. And in the most of the time you didn't get an easy solution. So thanks for the tip and after sanding down the latches it closes smooth and in silence

[@projectrebuild908]

I feel there is a missed trick. The dolly should be an add on to the sack truck. So you can get it off the van and upstairs or curbs, then use the dolly to move the stack to tasks on the job. Great and simple upgrades that anyone can do.

[@ShadowFoam]

Might have given me an idea for part 2 🤔

[@projectrebuild908]

@@ShadowFoam Glad I can help.

[@Mikey__R]

It's a huge advantage being interoperable with Festool, Hikoki, Mirka... The Bosch boxes might be better engineered (the latches are still pants) but they don't stack with my other tools.

[@ShadowFoam]

Really great thought that! I did mention something similar with the Festool boxes too, are you a Makpac user?

[@Mikey__R]

@@ShadowFoam I have a Makita tracksaw and a Festool Domino, yes. I'll be getting some systainers / Makpacs to hold my ROS and other Makita tools too. Thanks for the tips, I'll be buying some foam soon.

[@dg2908]

I've relegated my makpacs to tools I use less often, the stuff I use every day is now in Metabo's Metaboxes. Same dimensions, one clamp to stack or unstack instead of four (although the way they stack takes a bit of getting used to at first), you can access the inside of them whilst they're still in the stack and they have a briefcase handle which is great if you're just carrying one

[@ShadowFoam]

Great disagree with you there! They are a great box!

[@TonyRiches-gs5le]

What would you recommend for the blue point 3/8 socket sets it’s a really handy set for most quick jobs buts It has the world’s worst clips that just fall off if the look at them the wrong way and a handle on just one side, so every time you pick it up to go and start a job you first have to pick up all the tools you’ve just checked up the road.

[@nZebco]

I have done the foam stuff on all my Makpaks years ago, just a tip, always combine the tools in a way that you carry one box for few operations. As for the latches, I used wd white lithium.

[@ShadowFoam]

Great tips, thanks for sharing! How many makpacs have you upgraded?

[@nZebco]

@@ShadowFoam Around 14 boxes..also for Mafell snd Festool few of them.

[@henricmoberg]

Been watching your videos lately and really enhoy them, well done! I was wondering if you tried organizing the router with all the accessories? I'm goign to order some shadow foam and was looking for an example for how to do it since there are a lot of bits and pieces. Cheers and thanks from Norway!

[@kenric1460]

Is there anyway to add a lock to these boxes? Specifically the #3 Makpac Thanks

[@rizla6220]

Great Video, I got some alley sheet cut to fit the lid, screwed it to the four points to the lid, I then mounted five battery holders to the sheet alley, I found on makpak 3 and 4 box's I can carry tools under the battery's in the same box. winner winner chicken dinner...

[@ShadowFoam]

Really like that idea! Might “borrow” that for a follow up video!

[@andrewking8081]

I've done similar with a piece of ply , 4 makita batteries on stealth mounts and 4 bosch 12 v with relevant chargers in the box

[@Tosnowood]

Спасибо за подробный обзор, очень приятное динамичное видео! У меня много инструментов Макита и я сейчас думаю о покупке системы хранения. Идея со вкладышем из пены наиболее удобная, это сохранит и сам ящик, и инструмент внутри него от ненужных повреждений. Я обратил внимание что вы используете этот метод даже для настенного хранения инструмента, очень оригинально :) Привет из России!

[@ShadowFoam]

Спасибо за добрые слова! Рад, что вы тоже заметили мою стену для инструментов из пенопласта. Я думаю, что это важно, если вы работаете на небольшой площади, чтобы сэкономить жизненно важное пространство на полу! Дайте мне знать, какое решение для хранения инструментов Makita вы выберете!

[@chrisschrama]

Nice upgrades. But changing to the T-loc system is the real gamechanger.

[@ShadowFoam]

Shall be covering those soon!

[@1988antenne]

switched to bosch completly. quality is so much better and the l-boxx system is superior too.

[@ShadowFoam]

I can’t argue, I do love the L-BOXX system

[@DreStyle]

just using the latches a couple of times make em better , i have a 7 year old box and its smooth as frig , if you sand em down be very very carefull or they might open on their own

[@TheSynthnut]

The MakPac drawers, organisers and cantilever box are crazy expensive for what they are. I like the MakPacs themselves, though even these are a bit dear if you want to buy them stand alone, considering some folk just bin them!

[@ShadowFoam]

I totally agree! I only really make this video for all the boxes I got free with Makita tools I wanted

[@patbird9694]

Didn’t know Johnathon was a Makita Makpac Rep. Nice job making me want to buy more Makpacs.

[@waseempervezx4460]

What’s the name of light weight material you cut shapes out of it?

[@jjoohhhnn]

Looking forward to you covering MakTrak in the future, hopefully it's successful enough they design more cases for it.

[@georgebarrowman9509]

You never mentioned that once the latches are in place, you push them down to engage their lock so, even if they’re loose, (or you’ve filed off too much) they can’t disengage by themselves.

[@steveweaver3020]

Great vlog, I just have 1 type 2 box, can I put 2 levels in the box? I have 1 drill, 1 impact driver, 2 batteries and ancillaries. Cheers 👍

[@ShadowFoam]

Might be a squeeze, have you measured up?

[@steveweaver3020]

Not yet, best I do and try it out, thanks 🙏

[@simonhubert2392]

Very useful video. Do you have any ingenious tips for labelling the boxes as i never know what's in each box and i don't just want to write all over them with a Sharpie

[@ShadowFoam]

Might do, think a part 2 video may well be coming up!

[@combrogi]

Can you not leave the wheel base on and attach it to the sack carrier?

[@evanxplayzyt8461]

You guys should make inserts for Klein tools mod box

[@ShadowFoam]

We have got our hands on a few Klein boxes! 👀

[@xl000]

Not sure what you're doing with your makpacs, but I own 3 of them and all of the latches open and close normally. Maybe just a bit harder to close that I would like, but it's not a big deal

[@ShadowFoam]

Might be the luckiest makpac owner on the planet 😂

[@samphire]

Glad I watched this, time go ham with my file!!!!

[@ShadowFoam]

Let me know how you get on mate! 👍

[@PaganWizard]

Do you have a distributor in the USA?? If not, do you ship to us?? 6:00 To prevent any waste when spreading your adhesive, rather than applying it all over the surface of the wood, spread it over the high or raised parts of the MakPak, and then install the wood. 1/2 inch or 10mm plywood is probably going to be stronger than the MDF that you used, or at least it looked like MDF. $1,410.21

[@ShadowFoam]

Actively working on a US distributor, but we do ship to US on our website - www.shadowfoam.com - thanks for the glue tip!

[@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513]

I actually bought two cases with the battery inserts. I have a lot of batteries for my mowing business where I use the 36v mowers and other garden tools. Those latches are terrible

[@ShadowFoam]

Try filing them down mate!

[@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513]

@@ShadowFoam I will be...

[@mochiboy7750]

patiently waiting for makita to bring out their new storage system, until then I'll just watch these tips and hope I'll be able to afford it when it finally comes

[@HallstedDavid]

At 18:06 is a bottle of Heinz ketchup on the desk not in foam. Fry fry as you may, unless it is in foam, it's not organized.

[@patrickobrien5367]

Great video thanks again for your video 📹 👍 😀 its great help 😊

[@cyclemoto8744]

Compared to Milwaukee and Dewalt, the Makpacs are rubbish. In saying that, other than 1 Dewalt box I own 4 Makpacs because they were a bargain compared to the opposition. Thank you for sharing this fix. Cheers from OZ

[@GreenSaxon]

Armour All Protectant sprayed on the latches and drawer slides works wonders. No need for filing.

[@ShadowFoam]

Great tip! I’ll try that!

[@derekpbyrne]

The Makita Dollie's are very expensive... I got myself a cheap dolly for hardware store which accommodates a Mak pak fix some 1"x1" trim to suit size of mak pak and hey presto you save yourself 70+ quid ... I can get 5/6/7 boxes stacked and easy to move around.... great video guys yeah those catches are soooo annoying!

[@ShadowFoam]

Great tip!

[@XaltLures]

I put pfte-spray on the latches to make them buttersmooth..

[@fischer-felix]

It would be so good if makita started using t-loc systainers as well...

[@ShadowFoam]

I would love that too!

[@kroneditor9266]

Very helpful video - thanks! I wonder if Makita will sell the new latches as an accessory or spare part?

[@ShadowFoam]

Would be nice if they would 👍

[@sponka6459]

P-84399 - small latch for drawer (2 pcs in set) P-84408 - large latch for drawer (2 pcs in set) 453974-8 - makpac latch

[@timothyroper1897]

well put together. your thourghts are spot on.

[@ShadowFoam]

Thanks mate! Appreciate that!

[@Spiegelradtransformation]

OMG, we have to do a video. So i'm looking for Problems. MDF is heavy you can do the thame with much thinner plywood.

[@ShadowFoam]

Link me in when you do your video, I’d love to see it!

[@Spiegelradtransformation]

@@ShadowFoamNext i do a Video for Physics.

[@B100-c4m]

I have all my battery tools from makita but i find it too much of a hassle with 4 latches per box. Especially tools you need everyday. i use a few makpacs for storing machines together with accesories.(like my 1/2" impact with sockets) the plastic inlays are indeed not really useful when you keep your batteries elsewhere. i now buy mostly only "body" tools but when there's a good deal for a set i buy the set and put the box(and charger) on marketplace and about the latches; a bit of silicone spray or something does the job for a while. they will wear in eventually.

[@ShadowFoam]

What boxes do you use for your everyday tools?

[@B100-c4m]

@@ShadowFoam Buckets, wheelbarrow or the big one with 4 wheels. Model is called Master made by Renault if im correct.

[@AndreiGrozea]

They better come out with a better system, would be cool to see a Makita version of the packout. The only redeemable quality of the makpac is you can get 2nd hand boxes for pennies

[@tomn2629]

Much better than filing, it is better to spray the MaKPac and the plastic bar with Teflon spray. This works for month.

[@ShadowFoam]

Thanks for the tip! 👍

[@EkayPvp]

Shouldn’t have the change the designs when we pay so much for tools. But thanks for tips, great video

[@anothercoolchannel4528]

Amazing! I’ll have to start using em boxes

[@ShadowFoam]

Great stuff! How many do you have?

[@Just_a_Meowto]

Love MakPacs ❤

[@ShadowFoam]

What did you think of this video?

[@rueban96]

Why is this product not being updated by makita?

[@ShadowFoam]

Your guess is as good as mine

[@rueban96]

@@ShadowFoam I have invested heavily into the 40v line as a contractor and have been using the Mac pac system for almost two years. Every problem you dealt with was present back then, and the comments and reviews were the same. Love the tools, extremely underwhelmed with the cases. They either need a redesign or at least adjust the molds to make the latches work easier. Who has time to screw around with them.

[@alankearvell7084]

I have had 4 Macpack lid hinges snap on one side, so I have dumped most of my macpacks in favour of DeWalt cases, they are better made and cheaper in my opinion.

[@thedoctor3459]

I don't know if you do something or you just collect and like a good and quality tool, I would also like to have a good and quality tool, but I can't, I think you have a tool in millions ($), congratulations

[@benburton8463]

I work on building sites and dont think foam is good for me an mdf on the bottom. It weighs more and i need to ram as much tools i can in small boxes.

[@ShadowFoam]

That’s fair enough but otherwise, organising your tools in foam would make it much more apparent when one of your tools has gone walkabout on site

[@TylerTLOlogan]

Excuse me, sir. I appreciate your efforts in wearing protective equipment. Although, you may also consider covering your eyes. Gloves, perhaps? PPE saves!

[@ShadowFoam]

I do goggle up when I’m cutting mdf

[@three-phase562]

Bit disappointed in those drawers. Looks like they don't have any real runners and just slide on plastic shelves? Fair bit cheaper than Milwaukee drawers, but I don't think they would last as long for site use.

[@ShadowFoam]

Might not, but it’s a great option for organising hand tools in a workshop 👍

[@NLDHGRockStaR]

i am a Festool and Makita user, Makita all the 18 v tools, Festool the corded tools. Tanos is owned by Festool, so it would be weird if they woud'nt use them , besides that. the fact that they quit using this type of systainer 10 years ago and moved on to t-loc and now impoved that systainer aswell to a new one , and Makita still uses the latch type says also allot. festool listened to their costumer who said this is crap.i mean , the fact that after all these years you still have to file down brand new Makpacs to open them as they should be in the first place says everything to me.

[@ShadowFoam]

Do you have any Makpacs?

[@NLDHGRockStaR]

@@ShadowFoam i have i think around eleven or twelve of them, why?

[@dr.bik.sauerlanderene_HR]

I like Makita, I own over 150 Makita Tools and Batteries, but I am sick off this boxes. I switch slowly to Dewalts Tstak with drawers and Stanley Tooltroleys.

[@ShadowFoam]

Wow, I would love to see that collection!

[@UltimateToolReviews]

I wish Makpacks were more common in the USA.

[@ShadowFoam]

Come to the UK mate, they get launched at you over here!

[@ollie9199]

Yea silicone spray every few months on the latches works a trick

[@kisielthe1st]

Had no clue YATO branded tools were available outside of Poland lol.

[@zahidshabir4038]

Where is the cooler MakPac with insulated interior. They sell a drinks cooler Makpac (it is non electric but they do sell electric coolers but those are not Makpac compatible but they do support battery power use and AC home charging and DC in car charging on top of the batteries and the electric coolers can also keep things warm instead of cold) ALSO forgot to add that the cooler Makpac has white locking tabs unlike the black ones on all the other Makpac cases

[@ShadowFoam]

Haven;t got a coller Makpac, do you reccomend them?

[@matthewmeuleman9872]

Can you get your product in Australia

[@ShadowFoam]

All products available worldwide at www.shadowfoam.com

[@thijsholwerda8400]

Silicon spray does the trick

[@ShadowFoam]

great tip mate!

[@Psychoticgamer94]

You could also pile up all the plastic shavings and snort them

[@tomislav5689]

11:02 nice edit

[@ShadowFoam]

Thanks mate, pretty seamless isn’t it?

[@MrFerrie60]

they all do it even the festo units

[@ericjames5163]

I really like my Makita, but the term "makita teal" makes me giggle a bit. The colors are close, but many are noticably off. My tools get spray painted orange so i can see who is borrowing it so i do not care how off the colors are. I will giggle, but I really don't want to pay a premium for color. Batteries, bearings, motors, function, and feel are all more important to me than the color.

[@24revealer]

I find most other storage systems are too big for what I use them for.

[@ShadowFoam]

You a Makita user?

[@24revealer]

@@ShadowFoam I sure am! The only tools that come in Mak-paks in Canada are Track Saws that I have seen.

[@emilymt1]

Silicone grease and don’t file it I have loads of mark one festoon sustainers works a treat

[@martinpallmann]

aren’t they just gen1 systainers?

[@ShadowFoam]

Do you have any?

[@coolbugfacts1234]

Yes, I don't know why Makita insists on continuing to use them, since T-Loc systainers came out almost 15 years ago

[@martinpallmann]

@@ShadowFoam yes. Have a stack of them.

[@glenashton5308]

Vaseline works well too.

[@ShadowFoam]

Thanks for the tip! 👍

[@omnibuildersnz]

time to break out the file!!!!!!😂😂😂😂

[@ShadowFoam]

Let me know how you get on mate! 👍

[@NaenaeBoy]

Yup the latches are terrible

[@BBBCP-564pawyt]

Silicone spray or Wd40 is the easy way with the latches....do not file them.. Just spray them!!

[@DreStyle]

i dont understand i have plastic inserts in all my tool boxes and they fit perfect... they last for years

[@billystray7007]

Rumor has it makita's coming out with their own rolling toolbox system different than this

[@ShadowFoam]

If they do, I’ll get my hands on it to compare on this channel! 👍

[@lee85gavaz]

🫨 nice, but I still hate them 😅. p.s. the new are Bosch blue color 😂

[@ShadowFoam]

I’ll have to check those out!

[@joaquinchan9936]

they are the worst when compared to Festool. Not sure if it's even worth making the improvements, especially how expensive they have gotten in the States.

[@ShadowFoam]

How expensive are they in the States?

[@joaquinchan9936]

Ever since the pandemic, the prices for Makita has gone up exponentially to the point where I don't enjoy purchasing new Makita stuff in general. As for the Makpac boxes, they raised the price up ever since they started calling them Makpac in the States. The new additions like the cantilever tool box all has like this Festool price tag on them which makes no sense whatsoever and they are not that new if you are familiar with Tanos systainers. @@ShadowFoam

[@martincday007]

Makita really do let themselves down with the quality of their boxes, the inserts are a joke and some like the grinder are not fit for purpose. These are excellent tips but shouldn't be after-sale mods they are things that should come as standard. While the fundamental modular design is excellent, the material choice is poor.

[@ShadowFoam]

Totally get what you’re saying here Martin, I’m just offering up some tips for salvaging the boxes that come with the tools already, would hate to see them end up in land fill

[@martincday007]

@@ShadowFoam Sorry if I came across as criticism of your tips, they are all good and worth doing. The plastic insert that Makita provide is so flimsy - and if there is anyone out there who has a grinder that knows how the battery, handle and tool bar fits into the mould please tell. I just feel that if they want to build on their reputation for good design the case ought to come standard with foam inserts at the very least. I find I end up spending more on the insert than the case. ShadowFoam is excellent, but it is almost mandatory because the manufacturers are falling short.

[@gavinhay6627]

Yeah, crap latches and brittle plastic. Their other cases at least have less brittle plastic, but I've lost both latches off the case my hammer drill came in.

[@ShadowFoam]

It is annoying that they just pop off!

[@danthelambboy]

Just spray the latches with silicone lubricant

[@ShadowFoam]

Great idea!

[@oksionovv]

ывается купи и доделай сам 😂 у меня точно такая же проблема с этими замками думал что со временем разработается но нет пластик на замках очень твердый

[@johnathangoldsworthy]

the new ones are only slightly better

[@ramstafar]

You didn't care about the dolly at all 😅 I wanted more context about it

[@ShadowFoam]

haha I wasn;t sure people wanted to hear me go on and on about it

[@gerkostuff598]

I love Makita but will not be a fan of this storage system. What you really need are sturdy boxes with large and smaller drawers with sliders. Then you don't have to disconnect everything every time. A MDF 12 mm bottom adds extra weight and less space. Other brands do so much better.

[@salavatkh]

I 'fixed' latches by spaying a bit of WD-40))

[@ShadowFoam]

Great tip mate!

[@muntee33]

Whether you want them or not? Mine come in a cardboard box without a battery or charger. Really, cordless is worth 2x-4x as much and you dont get the battery these days, or even a case?!? What a racket

[@phillwildman]

I had lots of Makita power tools, very good, but I got rid of all those MakPac boxes. I hated them. horible design.

[@razvanionel3039]

quality management leaves much to be desired

[@ShadowFoam]

Nothing a few simple fixes wouldn’t sort out!

[@patrickguyot1290]

I dont like hard plastic tool boses,they break too easilly

[@ShadowFoam]

What tool boxes do you currently store your tools in?

[@mikewilliams6086]

Makita the most expensive system out there with the worst boxes! Why not go with systema ĺ box and help standardise and improve on something good

[@DreStyle]

haha yes the staring is so real :P

[@MinkieWinkle]

Always disliked the makpac boxes, they are awful to use compared to DeWalt's and Milwaukee's storage solution. It's a real shame since i would like to have good cases for all my Makita gear, just not the macpacs, tempted to just buy Milwaukee cases

[@ShadowFoam]

Not even with all these hacks to fix them?

[@joshpointongunz3136]

DeWalt isn't even beating ridgids pack out slow down Milwaukee yep they are winning packouts but dewalts is trash

[@cal5566]

Want them or not, that's the truth, so jealous of some of the new tough storage systems from the usual suspects