There Will Never Be Another Fighting Game Like This - Def Jam

[@invertbrid]

EA sport BIG was the best sport dev that era imo. Fifa street, NBA street, SSX, def jam, freekstyle, NFL street. All were so good, and age well even to this day.

[@boom350ph]

Ssx is the best

[@Aid.e]

Would love a deep dive into EA Sports BIG for the reasons you listed

[@locdogg86]

the cool thing is that the gameplay is developed by a japanese studio

[@JazzyJeff910]

Now looking at ea today, you wouldn’t believe they created such masterpieces.

[@MansMan42069]

FIFA Street died when it turned into a Futsal sim 😢

[@Galiaverse]

Gotta love it! Don't matter who you are, the idea of being part of or made into a video game just turns everyone into kids shouting the cool ideas in their heads and performing "special moves" for demonstration. Perfectly encapsulates what makes gaming so special.

[@younglove3362]

I did it with wrestling, basketball 🏀, and Def Jam vendetta. I understand the feeling. 😊

[@loopseeker]

ffny was truly lightning in a bottle and one of my all time personal favorites. i dont think a game like that could ever happen again

[@bigttheory]

prob not in this way but a modern rapper fighting game would go triple platinum. sm potential imagine having drake getting mixed to death by kendrick 😭

[@azurerider812]

@@bigttheory big same. Especially after hearing about the beef? FFNY and a modern equivalent was all I can think of.

[@laurentiusmcmxcv]

It's more MMA then the UFC games lol

[@Chandasouk]

I had Vendetta and FFNY. FFNY was such a good brawler with depth. I didn't realize how many OP characters there were until I saw it being played at CEO

[@Smoxie804]

bruh alot of the default characters we skipped on ended up being BUSTED!!!!!

[@Chandasouk]

@@Smoxie804 Fuckin' Pockets lmao

[@invertbrid]

One of masterpiece PS2 game. I love this game a lot and sometimes still complete the story mode once in every year or so. Glad u guys finally covering it. Prob the inspiration for SF6 world tour mode too. Def jam FFNY still has best story mode in fighting game before that.

[@thec0r379]

My godson loves this game. Any time he comes to visit it’s the only thing he wants to play. There was a whole ps5 right there and it did not matter it was all about fight for ny 😂

[@okyouwinleavemealone]

@@thec0r379 🎑🤠🐎 Classic joint 🍀🤞🏾

[@isaac2bands]

can’t blame em i be on my ps2 just as much as my pc

[@okyouwinleavemealone]

@@isaac2bands respect 👑 🎲

[@Dripsugeki]

I've seen a lot of retrospectives on this game before and I think this is the first one that actually mentioned the competitive scene that's been trying to keep the game alive and in the spotlight as best as we can. I appreciate the nod and shoutouts to AXG as well that's been keeping us in ECT and DTN. Great video.

[@Swimmie]

Praying someone makes a fan remake of it one day

[@evolancer211]

Can confirm I was swantoning from the couch all the time!

[@savonwoods980]

"Def dam vanjetta" pulls away from drive thru 😂😂 8:34

[@Ariamaki]

aint that the guy who played guile in the street fighter movie? 🤣🤣

[@agoniavr]

This game was the shit! I played it right away and couldn't believe how amazing it was, both for the idea and the exectuion (at least for young me). It really was a once in a lifetime thing, and it's one of the few games I wish they made a proper remake for

[@tcrimesb54]

Love that everyones making Def Jam content now

[@charlieboy3321]

This game was so good. They need to remake it fr.

[@thatguywesmaranan]

for the modern audience?

[@YOFACE9999]

Will never happen unfortunately

[@hjblacdes61]

This is lightning in a bottle. It'd be impossible to bring this back in any kind of fashion sadly. The licensing would be an absolute nightmare

[@theobell2002]

@@thatguywesmaranan Yes, for a modern audience. That's what remakes are for. To bring old games into the modern era.

[@lamMeTV]

HE GOT HIS BIRD

[@JazzyJeff910]

This was the pinnacle of gaming. If you missed it, you truly missed it.

[@mr.goblin6039]

I played Def Jam Vendetta RELIGIOUSLY on the GameCube. That game was so much fun. I understand why they can’t make a game like this today, but I wish they’d try. I know it would be RIDICULOUSLY expensive, but can you imagine a new one with modern artists and some that can return? I’d love that. I know it won’t happen, but I’d LOVE that.

[@LAST1GGK]

Fun fact: this exact gameplay can be found in an anime game called Ultimate Muscle or Kinnikuman (I think I spelled it right)

[@aceassn716]

Yes on PS2&Gamecube Wish I bought from blockbuster before they closed haha

[@elneco4654]

Same devs after all. Both Kinnikuman Generations/Ultimate Muscle and the Muscle Grand Prix games were made by AKI, though the latter is more of a traditional fighting game.

[@skipatrolslayer]

Man these games were awesome back in the day!

[@MixVideAnime]

Why don't they bring this games back to the new consoles? EA: No money for microtransactions?

[@anversailles]

Probably licensing and royalty issues due to how many big stars were on this game. Back then it was a priviledge to be in games. Now stars know it makes money, they ask for more to get featured.

[@sno4538]

Man fck tht i would glady take baby check just to be part of this game just for fans.. the industries knows how much this well sell. Everyone with a systems i gonna get it. And they can add MT of clothes and accessaries. Hell the give the play a mansion and vehichle so they can spend to customize them. Ffny is top3 ps2 games so a remake or reboot will be just as popular(if done right)

[@TheEregos]

I always thought 2K could steal EA's thunder in making one of these or do a big colab in one of the future WWE 2K games.

[@okyouwinleavemealone]

"Father I highly appreciate you for uploading this" You are my hero 🎑🐣🎸

[@xthonyGenz0]

I remember it vividly getting to play a lot of the EA Sports Big Titles like NBA Street V3, NFL Street 3 and Def Jam NY on the PS2. You know the game will be good if you here that "EA Sports BIIIIIIIGGG!" intro once you boot up the game.

[@tedkhoong]

They don't make games like they used to. Now, it's just "Unreal Engine The Video Game".

[@boom350ph]

If no one else make a better engine then they cant I mean hell helldivers was made with the corpse of a game engine they just revived

[@therock238360]

I mean Unreal Engine the Video Game is just Unreal Tournament

[@illford]

Unreal Engibe is one of the most capable game engines obviously people would use it. You shouldn't blame people who make tools for others lack of creativity, that's silly.

[@theobell2002]

Are you dumb? Why are you blaming the tools for bad video games?

[@theobell2002]

This is like blaming the hammer for putting in the nail the wrong way. Don't blame the tools, blame the user.

[@boom350ph]

Ssx shall will always be the the best game i ever sinked in my childhood

[@bigman88george3]

The first three always bring back warm, fuzzy feelings of early fall chillness and relaxation.

[@jakeenglish8224]

I bought the first two games from a co-worker after not having them for a decade and that person is one of my best friends now. Love these game!

[@BlackKoi321]

I remember playing the hell outta vendetta while staying at my cousins in New York, we stayed up all night playing that game. Good times

[@banishedepsilon1802]

7:32 Don Matrick might be the worst executive in gaming history. Has he ever made a not terrible decision? No one deserves complete failure more than him and he somehow failed upwards to almost completely destroy an entire console brand later on.

[@thelastgogeta]

I'm sure he must have made one right decision in the last 42 years (yes, he has been in the industry that long!) He couldn't really have worse optics if he tried right now.

[@michaelskoomamacher5652]

@@thelastgogeta he made Test Drive, Need For Speed (because he couldn't bring Test Drive with him to EA), and FIFA franchises. But other than those, dude wack.

[@SnuggsMcDuff]

nba street v3. had mario, luigi, and peach on the gamecube. imagine getting dunked on by super mario. i can't block that dude!

[@bigchief4052]

I literally had this game like 3 different times, on every console at the time. Game cube, Xbox, and ps2. I love this game. I spent a lot of time playing it when I was in middle school.

[@8thVigil]

Back when games had soul and culture instilled into them, and big corpo CEOs and MBA grads were ruining other industries instead. Gone are the days.

[@theobell2002]

7:30 - Did you even watch the video? It was already happening back then.

[@MadMax55777]

Randomly found 2nd game of this series back in the day, it was amazing, a tittle that meant nothing to me, turned out to be really fun fighting game with alot of depth. And as always, top quality vid from you guys!

[@yeetleslaw8529]

I have been playing def jam all week. Crazy timing. There is no game like it.

[@hoodjiujitsu3834]

@ 8:25 The fact that method Man was raging on the controller against a little kid has me dying laughing😂😂😂😂😂

[@marvellesaulsberry]

With the exception of DMX all the original rappers came back Look I know Keith Murray wasn't the biggest name but c'mon

[@DippedInInk]

Thanks EA for this cuz I can't tell yall the many many many times I played, beat, played, beat and repeat.

[@GEMINIVice1]

Man!! I loved SSX!!! Good times with that series.

[@feelingrizzly1515]

I used to stomp my friends in the neighborhood with Sticky back in the day. I thought I had finally found my game. Imagine my disappointment when I found out I was just abusing an OP character.

[@marvellesaulsberry]

Def jam icon is probably in New York as well since 106 and park is a venue and that is specifically in New York but that one did have more non New York artist music and culture

[@theobell2002]

"The Block" venue specifically states it's the "southern block" so it's safe to assume Icon takes place all over the states.

[@bernagoga]

An absolute gem of a game. Also do metal gear online 2

[@gnardawgyt]

Very interesting story and great video!

[@imSaerilee]

DUDEEEEE, DEF JAM WAS SO HECKING GOOD

[@wootdahnoot]

Def jam is so good holy moly my main game for years as a kid

[@mooglechao]

Ghostface Killah was my main in Fight for NY

[@hypedrifter1715]

I'm happy people remember this game !

[@yasumedia9528]

Happened to walk by a medium sized tournament of this game at a convention a couple years ago. I was transfixed. We NEED this on current gen. I'm not asking for a sequel or even a fully updated reboot or remaster. Just a port to current gen and hopefully with online support.

[@blackpreyunleashed]

Def Jam's "Blazin' Move" system inspired Tekken's "Rage Arts" and Mortal Kombat's "Fatal Blows."

[@jonathanmaldonado2499]

Djffny It's so unique because of a lot of right place right time circumstances that made it happen, it's true: it really was a once in a lifetime moment for it to be made.

[@Fushiar]

Ffny Pogo stick is the one move i will mever forgot in all super in that game lmao

[@marvellesaulsberry]

That and the jump rope move for me(I think it's called over hard) and I'm vendetta Spida's Harlem handspring

[@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn]

Redman's Balls to the Wall is goated though.

[@marvellesaulsberry]

@@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn I think it does some of the highest damage

[@Wh1ffGod]

Peak fighting game. Wouldn’t play mk so much if they remaster/remake def jam

[@donut358]

My older frat bro broke this out on his modded Wii for us like last week. Had never heard of it before but everyone was dying laughing by the end lit night

[@Leahcimmichael]

Vendetta was my jam

[@badger297]

The golden era.

[@jaughnekow]

One of the best fighting games ever!!!

[@604ckur]

Idk, with the current fighting game renaissance going on, something like this filling in the whole in the 3D space would be appreciated, while also being a unique concept.

[@mario08133]

We need another game like this

[@Brutetank]

Feels like back in the day, people did stuff mostly to do it and say they did. Now everything feels very "what do I get out of it" type mentality, I'm probably wrong; it just really feels that way now.

[@damsen978]

I'd like to see FGC pro players give this game a try to see if they like Fight for NY or not.

[@SwipeGameplay]

It was crazy that this game was originally meant to be the first smackdown vs raw game

[@badger297]

Anyone remember "State of emergency "?

[@NickPR87]

FFNY is one of the greatest fighting games of all-time, but just like WCW vs nWo Revenge is for me above No Mercy; Vendetta holds a special place in my heart because it was the perfect blend of hip-hop and AKI's fantastic wrestling game engine.

[@bigman88george3]

Never got to play these games growing up. I just watched some other kids playing it at a friend of a friend's house for a minute.

[@robochsin]

This game was amazing 😍

[@tubster105]

I was at the GameStop when meth lost The kid was using DMX (the best character in the game) Mef threw the controller afterwards and starting signing autographs angrily

[@deuceblacksmith6681]

5:54 it's like DMX was born to be in a fighting game 😂😂😂 RIP

[@dialectiks]

great video!

[@chadafiy]

I need an urban reign remake or sequel

[@trillswayze]

0:41 Eminem’s Lose Yourself as a metaphor for hip-hop told me everything I needed to know about this video.

[@ronaldedge3317]

R.I.P. DMX.

[@testertesteb4915]

Def Jam was amazing also the sequel

[@badger297]

Bring back MLB Slugfest

[@younglove3362]

If they made a new up to date game they could add in certain rappers. If they make it good enough they could slowly 🐌 get extra people to sign off and later on make extra rappers purchasable.

[@ainahko16]

If a new Def Jam were played today, anyone playing it will think that their stick drift is getting worse but it's because they're playing in the Diddy Party level.

[@PhriekshoTV]

Vendetta was easily the best of them. The wrestling approach was so much more fun Also Freekstyle is still underrated as far as EA BIG goes. Slip Away is one of the greatest numetal tracks of all time

[@irpanfauzi1160]

I Still play this Game on my Android Phone

[@imfinishedgrinding638]

What emulator are you using? PSCX2?

[@krakrex780]

Outside of ska, tony hawk introduced me to Del and KRS which lead me to wutang and MF DOOM

[@40footwolf]

honestly I think if EA were willing to shell out for the music rights and likenesses (a piss in the ocean compared the amount of cash that company has on hand) a rerelease of the first two games with extra concept art/interviews/etc would go stupid in terms of sales. I think millennials would show up in droves like Gen-Xers and elder millennials did for Capcom's recent re-releases.

[@JakeKnight133]

Bring it back

[@jy-li1jq]

I miss old EA

[@aeolus15]

I'm lost. If they licensed it back then, why can't they license it again now? Like, what's the problem with giving permission to use your name so they get paid? Do they not want to pay the artist, etc? I know for a fact remaking FfNY would be a gold mine. Did EA Big go out of business after the fall of Icon? Anywho, I love Def Jam: Fight for New York. Glad I got 3 copies of it 2 for the PS2 and one for the Gamecube✌🏻

[@anthonyrousseau8050]

Because the costs for artists' likeness has dramatically increased in the last 15 year and is a much bigger deal now. FFNY had the advantage of all them being under contract with Def-Jam, which made things less difficult. Now, they're scattered to the wind and many of them work for rival record companies or have their own independent record brand. Putting aside that EA are likely too cheap*** to invest in such a project again, the above-described licensing costs would make any company balk. Even something like a remake would be killed from having a single artist refusing to lend their likeness again. Not so much go out of business as get dismantled before having a chance to recover. EA did that to everyone (their graveyard of dead studios is infamous for a reason) and Big was no exception.

[@RNNK45]

8:36 Def Dam Vanjetta 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@MaykCalibugan]

Imagine playing this game now as P.Diddy as “The Diddler”.

[@jameshamilton8720]

Method REALLY called the kid that beat him a piece of sh*t!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@wepeanutthree5553]

you should try def jam icon. it’s plain if not slightly odd.

[@killbotjames22]

My fastest K.O is 36 seconds. Good game.

[@-3kko-]

“Def Dam Ven Jetta”

[@azurerider812]

TIL that Def Jam FFNY is indeed played in FGCs. Damn.

[@pwnchmonkey1]

Man I'd love a new nba street

[@Jekyll_Jackal]

This video is getting a copyright strike given the tracks used in the background

[@kingpacman_9118]

Along with DMX, Funkmaster Flex and Keith Murray didn't return. I wished they all had returned. Even the circuit fighters. RIH DMX

[@rashodmasters4299]

Icon gets so much hate but back in the day those interactive enviroments were hype as hell

[@waverazor]

I kinda dug it when I played the demo but uhh... It's always going to be compared to def jam vendetta, which is such a Japanese polished game

[@theobell2002]

They are still hype nowadays. It's literally the best thing about Icon. The way the environment reacts to the music is fantastic and I would have loved a mix between Icon and FFNY where you have the reactive environment bumping and pulsating to the music with the fast, chaotic gameplay of FFNY.

[@theobell2002]

Def Jam: Icon is definitely not a bad game. I wouldn't necessarily call it good either. It's okay and you can have fun with it.

[@bes03c]

I played Fight for NY for the first time last year and loved it. I played Icon and HATED it. It has a couple cool features but the gameplay is not fun at all it has no UI during the fight. There are no health bars or any sort of damage indication.

[@elneco4654]

12:18 And also, because AKI has been just about dead for a decade. The last games that weren't a dressup game (and aren't an arcade card-based one) were the two Kurohyou (Yakuza spinoff) PSP games, the second one dating back to 2012.

[@ComicBooksandVideoGameNerd96]

Speaking of Def Jam one thing I always confuse me I know that they weren't signed to the Def Jam record label but how come the G-Unit members weren't in this game like young buck Tony Yayo Lloyd Banks 50 Cent The Game Eminem Dr Dre that always confuse the hell out of me because they had the 50 Cent bullet bulletproof game again I understand that they weren't signed to the Def Jam record label but then again there are people that weren't even on the record label to begin with like Danny Trejo and he was on in the game like he's not even a rapper he an actor

[@aceassn716]

This is still the best 4player fighting game made to me an its been 20yrs!! Powerstone&Smash Bros arent on this level though I love those games as well Still own Wu Tang Shaolin Style as well DJFFNY didnt sell huge due to two other games that just released GTA San Andreas&Halo2 In my case nfl 2k5 (best game made til this day) I didnt sleep much then alot of ecstasy lsd an partying haha how am I alive today?!?

[@anversailles]

It still hurts that they butchered this franchise with ICON. I still play this game. It was way ahead of its time, and still fun. Recently built up a custom Drake and Kendrick and had them fight. Hilarious

[@omegaprime141]

0:47 What song is this?

[@KuroShiiiiro]

(why is the thumbnail snoop dog and not dogg?)

[@TheArrussell]

That comparison to gta and mafia is crazy. Most rappers aren’t criminals

[@ViewtifulJae]

la crème de la crème