Doors and Glazing in a Green Oak Timber Frame

Green oak needs a crystal ball to know where it will move and shrink, that's why it takes a different approach from conventional installs. By isolating the glazing, (or door frame) from the oak post it allows the oak to do it's thing without effecting the glass or joinery that is installed between them. Here is my take on installing the door frame, as I mentioned in the video there are many options, this is just what worked for us.
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[@ianlee9067]

As a person who has been working with hardwood for many years, tip for the future, suggest putting a touch of goose fat on the end of the screws to make them screw in easier, this will prevent screws from breaking and make it easier to get them out in the future

[@kevintodd6150]

I worked in construction for nigh on 50 years up here in the North East (Newcastle) area Tim, and I can honestly say that you put some of the (so called) tradesmen I have come across to shame. Obviously you can afford to take more time to do things not having to work to a price etc, but your attention to detail is amazing.The old saying of "do it right the first time" is obviously your work ethic.Well done and all the best to you ,Jo and the girls for 2020

[@richardfoggin8975]

Enjoyed the honesty of the bottom window cill. Made me feel a little more okay with the slight mishap I had today. Also wanted to say thanks for continuing to keep us updated on the porch! I've been renovating my first home over the past year and knowing what others are doing (and that it can't be done in a weekend) is comforting :) all the best for 2020!

[@PERKINS4107]

Mate - just seen this particular clip/uplode....your work is tops!!! spot on!!! - love the fact you totally appreciate the way/effect timber moves......ie expansion and contraction. Love the glazing tape and the 'non-fixing'of the door frame to the green oak timber frame. The amout of times I've tried to explain to so called 'intelligent 'people (customers!!!) expansion & contraction!!!!!!!! Lovely, very well explained and very well executed film!! - nice to see a fellow, really decent joiner; using decent materials......truly understanding them with explaining about pre-oil finishing, proper plugging using grain direction etc... Your great! Well done!

[@listerthat]

Absolute excellent work. You videos make me want to push myself more. Everytime I think to myself nah that's a step too far I see what you can achieve. Just finished our bathroom before Christmas with reclaimed herringbone oak floor. Moving on to pulling down an aluminium porch and refreshing it with ceder clad on timber frame with composite door.

[@azza1793]

I have commented on your videos in the past and yet again you impress me, not only do you do thorough research and planning but your quality of workmanship is professional which would put a lot of guys i work with to shame also considering that you are not even in the building trade nothing fazes you. Keep up the great work and video content for 2020 Tim 👍

[@jolalo123]

Jesus, already looks great, had never thought of that way to install, blends right in with the wood work.

[@jonmac6133]

Looking good. HNY from Memphis, TN, USA! 😎👍🏻🎉

[@zedman442]

Lovely job. Your right about the stainless screws compromise on strength and corrosion resistance!

[@coops6621]

Cracking job. You'd be hard pressed to get someone in who'd take such care and attention as you on your projects, keep it up!

[@athloneduke]

Like the format of the video and as usual a cracking job 👏🏼👏🏼

[@rjamsbury1]

Just made some parsnip soup tonight too! (Roasted with rosemary rather than curried though). The porch is looking great

[@Simon78]

Riiiight that’s the steam I’ve been seeing during this series !!! Great work btw looks awesome!

[@MrJohnnynapalm7]

Well done, Tim - a pleasure to watch 👍

[@vivaldi1236]

Have you considered painting the pipe the same color as the mortar? Brilliant build, as usual.

[@TheCountryCottageGardener]

Fantastic, looking forward to spending 2020 with you lol. All the best for the coming year 👍👍

[@gerwood340]

Brilliant work. Been looking forward to this one 👍🏻

[@PB200559]

Superb stuff. You are an adult lion my friend.

[@user-uf3wz4fy2h]

Happy New Year from Greece !!!!!!

[@jamowallace]

Really enjoying this project, excellent work my friend

[@edo178]

Looks great! Good solid explanations and great workmanship!

[@barrydoxseyuk]

Great job, love oak. Inspirational.

[@waynekwoods2799]

Looking so good like it was made for it .📐📏✏⛏⛏

[@olyjfitness]

Loved your profile drawings . I'm attempting to make a back door with glazed head from old cupboard doors. Gave me some visual options . Hard to tell whsts going on with porch or rear doors when you see the final product ..

[@mandyleeson1]

Love the attention to detail.

[@charis128]

Beautiful work.

[@scottvirgogp]

Looking fab!

[@kevinbutchart7187]

Happy New Year to you and your family!....looking very nice! you couldnt pop round and do my porch area too?..lol

[@Norwichjase]

Good John b, looks great. I'd love to know more about you and what you do for a living etc (I guess KZbin is becoming more and more your living), you seem like a fantastic guy and I'm sure lots would like to know more about you.

[@noelkealey]

Looks great, happy new year to you and the family.

[@xw6968]

Happy 2020 and a good start. Very nice.

[@billywhizz98]

Nicely done

[@gregorymcd944]

Looks great!

[@Hollegripchannel]

Why did you opt to have the door opening outward ?

[@freddieleethompson3536]

Can’t believe you’ve only uploaded one video this year... 🤪

[@franceshallen2478]

LOL.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Slacking huh! 😂

[@freddieleethompson3536]

The Restoration Couple Happy new year to you and your family. I’m looking forward to your 2020 content. Cheers Tim. 🤜🏻🤛🏻

[@felixreali7101]

looking good :)

[@MrWayno79x]

Good to hear you considered the bloom kit for the flue. To be honest I would have been very surprised if you hadn’t thought of it. Love your videos, keep it up, Thanks. Ps what it’s you trade/day job?

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Probably going to take the flue out of the roof instead now as the kit won’t clear fascia. 🙄 I’m a photographer by day. 👍

[@ivaylomitev8302]

Did you account for any shrinking? like how many % of shrinking did you think it will experience?

[@masherco]

Do you order the green oak posts without heart (box heart) most of the ones I come across seem to be box heart and they are prone to twist badly

[@Dan-tj7ft]

There are such thing as gaps, only expansion joints

[@ClaireChelton]

Please can you tell me what double glazed units you used? Planitherm?

[@sleahyathotmail2834]

Great video & your attention to detail and workmanship are second to none. I have a query regarding u-values. Part L1b of the building regulations (Paragraph 4.21 & 4.22, Table 1) requires that doors should not exceed 1.8 w/m2 k and windows / roof windows 1.6 w/m2 k. Having made the frames yourself, you will have no idea what the actual u-values are as it is the Uw value (glazing & frame combined) and NOT the Ug (centre pane) value that is required. Also, I wounder if you have considered paragraph 4.2 as I expect the total amount of glazing exceeds 25% of the floor area? I am a SAP assessor and come across these issues on a daily basis.

[@sleahyathotmail2834]

Although I should add that if you keep it as a porch and do not remove the existing external quality doors separating it from the house and the porch is not heated then it will be exempt for Part L1b.

[@olyjfitness]

Does all that matter if you are making it for your own house ?

[@malcolmbale9566]

What pocket hole jig is that?

[@TheRestorationCouple]

K5 I think.

[@tomgreiner88]

Is the music at the beginning from something? sounds familiar.

[@JohnnyMotel99]

Ha! Now I see why you are making a new workshop....no need to open kitchen door for long lengths.

[@colingmaccoll]

Hiya, what have you done regards scribing etc to your rendered wall with the boiler flue on it. Surely your oak frame won't just butt up to that? Interested to see how you made it fit that side if the install.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

The oak face boards were scribed yes. I then added some of the expanding tape to act as a gasket of sorts. The wall may be clad anyway.

[@colingmaccoll]

@@TheRestorationCouple thanks for the Info, keep at it!

[@stevenroe972]

Hi pal... where do you buy your oak from? Keep up the good work 👌🏼

[@jonny7491]

I’ve asked that before it seems to be a trade secret.😂

[@oldschoolengineer58]

@@jonny7491 i have asked on other channels and got no reply, its as if no one wants to let on where to get hardwood from!

[@mbc204]

@@jonny7491 Tim did a whole vid before showing where he got the oak from.

[@jonny7491]

M Bc thank you, I’ve only been subscribed a few months I’ll have a look at past videos.

[@thomasleach4448]

Given they live in the South West I would guess Yandles near Martock

[@ryanfox9898]

Any reason for having the window beading on the outside rather than the standard inside?

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Only option with this frame of door opens out. Beads tend to be external on timber windows anyway. (I think) lots more on that I’m future video though.

[@markreid1162]

Hi Tim just wondering what pillar drill you use and is it good

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Some cheap and cheerful one I bought from Wickes years back. Fine for what I need but not great.

[@Robperger]

Does this kind of thing require planning permission in the UK?

[@xw6968]

Rob Roy i believe he told this in the beginning of the build.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

In most cases a porch will wall under permitted development, check planning portal for the details. 👍 size and height restrictions, etc.

[@tanyaroyredcar]

Thank you. Uncanny that many of your last videos are similar to what we are doing on our restoration at the moment - so following with interest. We've just finished a very large framed porch/vestibule in 5 yr seasoned oak. We took sawn beams and have joinered everything on site. Surface glazing with EPDM tape, Osmo 325 one coat and 320 clear for subsequent coats. We're waiting for glass and everything is ready for that. We've ordered a double combination frame and door in engineered oak from Distinctive doors. This is coming all fitted but unfinished. What treatment would you recommend for a)UV protection and b) finish. ? manufacturer is not recommending any oil whatsoever on engineered oak and suggest that this will kill their warranty... do you have any suggestions please? thanks in advance. photo attached FYI ibb.co/4g07XMD

[@stevecraft00]

I cringe when you're using your table saw. Don't you have a guard?

[@catabaticanabatic3800]

A guard? As the saying goes, "I've just removed the guard for demonstration purposes to make it easier to view". A table saw comes with a guard in the box. The first thing you do to make it a usable tool is to bung the guard straight in the bin. They hamper you so much that they render the tool virtually useless.

[@scott3589]

Can I recommend these to you for pilot holes. I use the 5mm ones all the time for my renovation, as it has a lot of very old, dry oak in the house that just splits when I smash a screw into it. perfect for 4/5" screws www.toolstation.com/draper-hss-long-metric-drill-bit/p1275

[@halstirrup]

No gloves when handling lead . Not sure that good for you

[@steenfraosterbro3268]

I'm surprised it is even legal to use. Lead was banned in Denmark (were I come from) several years ago.

[@stephendye1437]

Most likely lead substitute, real lead isn't commonly used

[@xw6968]

Its still used in a lot of countries.

[@phildxyz]

Lead extensively used in UK. Wash your hands after, no big deal. Maybe more precautions if you were a roofer using it all day every day...