Steven Universe Isn’t Bad, You Guys Are Just Dumb (feat. Veridis Joe)

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The Roundtable

The Roundtable

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@RoundtableVids
@RoundtableVids 3 жыл бұрын
VERIDIS JOE: kzbin.info/door/EOZcVBaCjZAOZYZS-6d3Mw THUMBNAIL ART BY ARTWITHKODA: instagram.com/artwithkoda/ kzbin.info/door/zNnvLLuJ7qhu1c9-_d5oKg 0:00 - Intro 4:10 - Enter Veridis Joe 7:47 - Good Criticisms 14:56 - Bad Criticisms 29:43 - You Haven't Watched Steven Universe 38:16 - The Bandwagon (on Both Sides) 47:44 - The PSAs 51:15 - You're Getting Old 53:22 - Steven Universe is a Stepping Stone (Conclusion)
@hectormgarduzardz
@hectormgarduzardz 3 жыл бұрын
hi
@hannahharkey699
@hannahharkey699 3 жыл бұрын
ok
@Jablinnn
@Jablinnn 3 жыл бұрын
Watermelon
@Indo-Fury6521
@Indo-Fury6521 3 жыл бұрын
Steven universe and Steven universe future change my life forever I was just a loser with no purpose in life I no one never loved me or care but when Steven universe came out it changed my life the show gave me purpose for once in my whole life this show gave me a reason to live and love to see things for what things really are and stuff like that and this is why Steven universe and Steven universe future is the Greatest show of all time in history I hope that this show gets amazing reboot like she ra did and thank you Rebecca sugar for making Steven universe
@wakspacific6928
@wakspacific6928 3 жыл бұрын
Lilly Orchard Enough said
@starrynight669
@starrynight669 3 жыл бұрын
Just remember people: Critique doesn't equal hate! You can still love the show and point out its flaws
@prizmarvalschi1319
@prizmarvalschi1319 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! If you truly love something, you're willing to see and acknowledge the flaws
@MarcDoesNotKnow
@MarcDoesNotKnow 3 жыл бұрын
This! I love the show, it helped me pass through difficult times, but it still has flaws.
@jeanniemaycrawford4466
@jeanniemaycrawford4466 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, hating it labels you as a transphobe
@catzlover7
@catzlover7 3 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of critques of SU, but still love the show
@star7communicator
@star7communicator 3 жыл бұрын
Critiquing something you love just means you want to see it improve, at least for me it does lol
@UnKnown-bo8ce
@UnKnown-bo8ce 3 жыл бұрын
Some random person: "FUSION IS *SEX!!!* " *Steg Universe nervously sweats.*
@LycanMOON
@LycanMOON 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s weird how people say it’s sex when it’s clearly not.people just don’t understand
@alexiaivan7708
@alexiaivan7708 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is even a more profound connection, since it’s a spiritual, as well as physical connection
@hi_mynameis76
@hi_mynameis76 3 жыл бұрын
Fusion is representative of any type of relationship, and I’m sure some of them could be sexual. That doesn’t mean that every fusion is. Steg is father/son relationship. Smoky Quartz is Best Friend relationship. Sunstone is master/student relationship.
@klenstdp1737
@klenstdp1737 3 жыл бұрын
@@LycanMOON Rebecca sugar said it was
@entimoreng
@entimoreng 3 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAHHHHHH
@sunshineartz1926
@sunshineartz1926 3 жыл бұрын
So it's basically the Frozen of TV shows. It's been seven years since Frozen came out and I still hear people talk about how it's one of the worst movies and it's overrated when in all reality, the only time I see it talked about is when people are talking about they hate it
@xblade149
@xblade149 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much. While I think frozen is a good movie, I find tangled way better than frozen.
@sunshineartz1926
@sunshineartz1926 3 жыл бұрын
@@xblade149 Frozen isn't better than Tangled, and Tangled isn't better than Frozen. The two are both really good movies with good characters and messages. I really wish that people would stop constantly comparing them like if Frozen is good then Tangled is bad and visa versa. And your opinion that Tangled is better than Frozen is valid because it is your opinion!
@xblade149
@xblade149 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunshineartz1926 I should've been clear. In my personal opinion I think tangled is better frozen. But don't get me wrong I still love frozen and I think its good. But you're right, I hate when people bandwagon on hate . Or used I don't like the show because its popular excuse that grinds my gears
@lemoncucumber9832
@lemoncucumber9832 3 жыл бұрын
I used to love the show. Then I found the criticism- the huge pile of it. A lot of it felt quite patronizing because they would have titles like Steven universe sucks or whatever, so of course I wrote it off. But- I forced myself to finally watch it. It really pissed me off.... at first. The thing was if I really looked at it, it was all true. The show let me down. I saw all the flaws and the problematic parts of the show. I felt let down because I realized the true potential of the show, and how much it had failed me. Even If you like the show, I’d recommend you look into it, just to understand where I’m coming from. (I completely understand there is a lot of crappy criticism, that is not valid to me/ like the fusion=sex stuff, that’s all just bad. But dont write all the criticism off. There are some really big problems with the show. I don’t want to make anyone hate the show, i just want people to look at things critically sometimes too.)
@sunshineslowking5025
@sunshineslowking5025 3 жыл бұрын
@@xblade149 you know what's weird? people always compare it to tangled. like no one ever says they liked alladin or the lion king better than frozen. idk why
@K1ttyGam3r
@K1ttyGam3r 2 жыл бұрын
While the show is not perfect, it still holds a special place in my heart. I used to _love_ watching Steven Universe with my brother when I was younger.
@Emir_Duzler
@Emir_Duzler 8 ай бұрын
it is not bad but i still can not accept apeasing space fascists
@K1ttyGam3r
@K1ttyGam3r 8 ай бұрын
@@Emir_Duzler Yeah the ending was hella rushed (though that’s to be expected because CN cut the show short due to the atrocious crime-sarcasm btw-that is representing gay marriage in a show)
@greenninja61
@greenninja61 8 ай бұрын
She said facistly
@monacaandmonika2230
@monacaandmonika2230 3 жыл бұрын
Steven universe was one of the first shows I had a passion for. Steven universe made me feel happy. I will never stop being a fan. Edit: also Steven universe help realize that you are never to old to like a cartoon. Now I love cartoons again.
@CedricThePlaystation
@CedricThePlaystation 3 жыл бұрын
Well, to each their own. Same here my friend
@brandonseupersad7916
@brandonseupersad7916 3 жыл бұрын
I resonated with the pilot, but then it got scrapped and something broke inside me. I got back into the show after episode 1 released.
@elebrony
@elebrony 3 жыл бұрын
MLP: FIM did those things for me.
@unripetheberrby6283
@unripetheberrby6283 3 жыл бұрын
That's amazing. :)
@unripetheberrby6283
@unripetheberrby6283 3 жыл бұрын
@@elebrony Yeah, similar with me.
@rabbideadpool5190
@rabbideadpool5190 3 жыл бұрын
I love Steven Universe but I will criticize it to my hearts content, but it doesn’t come from a place of apathy but an understanding that it could’ve been even better.
@starrynight669
@starrynight669 3 жыл бұрын
@@94DeathAngel cinnamon sons?
@genyakozlov1316
@genyakozlov1316 3 жыл бұрын
@@94DeathAngel This falls apart when most "sins" they find are either nitpicks, jokes, or them blatantly misremembering the plot while showing how incorrect they are IN THE FOOTAGE THEY USE. Cinemasins don't actually want movies to be better, because that would make it harder for them to make content. Not that this will actually ever happen, as you can nitpick anything for any amount of "sins" if you want, so their video are no indication of the movie's writing quality. Their videos are entertaining, but don't confuse them for criticism. Even the creators of the channel said they're satirical.
@stevenrogers2684
@stevenrogers2684 2 жыл бұрын
@@genyakozlov1316 uh yeah. Cinema Sins mocking is entertainment. Doesn’t everyone know that? I still see the movies, but I like the criticisms.
@lenardbordo9838
@lenardbordo9838 2 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with you. The fact that this show had so much potential that remains unused and that is a shame.
@matt0044
@matt0044 2 жыл бұрын
“Wasted potential” feels like a subjective term made out to be objective. Maybe you thought it could’ve been better but even if others agree, some will disagree with how it could have been. Hell, if you could “fix” the show, it might piss people off who like it as is.
@Peridot5xg
@Peridot5xg 3 жыл бұрын
*[It's an inevitable fact, to be honest. Even the most beloved and kind person in the universe can't be accepted by the masses. Just look at Ruby and Aquamarine, and many others who still hate Steven to this day. And if you think that's bad, just look at Steven's community...]*
@Helehache
@Helehache 3 жыл бұрын
You have reason. ¿Can I say something to You? I see you in a Lot of English and Spanish videos about Steven Universe. ¿Where You from?
@jirodensetsu1948
@jirodensetsu1948 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@PrinceApollo117
@PrinceApollo117 3 жыл бұрын
Your everywhere!
@cassidystuidiot3071
@cassidystuidiot3071 3 жыл бұрын
I’m confusion
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. 3 жыл бұрын
Well Peri, I love the show and your one of the many reasons why!
@prismwing
@prismwing 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I got to watch this series all at once this year, with no outside influence, and long after giving up all social media. It got to be my own experience and I loved every moment of it.
@jessewilson8676
@jessewilson8676 3 жыл бұрын
I am a grandfather and I did love the show...wish it could continue or at least a couple spin offs..
@allstrange7495
@allstrange7495 3 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree
@urinefetus
@urinefetus 3 жыл бұрын
Gilf
@mr_cream224
@mr_cream224 3 жыл бұрын
@@urinefetus NO
@ladykatie8204
@ladykatie8204 3 жыл бұрын
I think another movie world me nice. Maybe a Lars of the Stars space adventure with the off colors!
@pootis4986
@pootis4986 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh spin offs are most likely to fail
@lemon_p1ss978
@lemon_p1ss978 2 жыл бұрын
I like that Jasper and lapis represented a toxic relationship but as malachite. Lapis trapped malachite in the ocean- and malachite is toxic in water. I thought it was a cool detail :)
@sn0wcake
@sn0wcake 10 ай бұрын
oh i never noticed that! that's a pretty clever detail!
@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines
@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines 2 ай бұрын
Wasn't that unintentional
@dylanoliver403
@dylanoliver403 3 жыл бұрын
In a few months, people will be hating on The Owl House (probably because it’s popular) and I don’t know if I’m ready for that.
@bettercallfrog
@bettercallfrog 3 жыл бұрын
It kinda already happened
@goatmilk1
@goatmilk1 3 жыл бұрын
@@bettercallfrog How?
@duckydonuts8548
@duckydonuts8548 3 жыл бұрын
@@goatmilk1 because the whole a 14 year old being bisexual and one being lesbian
@goatmilk1
@goatmilk1 3 жыл бұрын
@@duckydonuts8548 I mean about genuine hate people have with show not just homophobia
@duckydonuts8548
@duckydonuts8548 3 жыл бұрын
@@goatmilk1 oh yeah well I dont know what people hate about it
@yeeyeeyeeye
@yeeyeeyeeye Жыл бұрын
Two years later and this still holds up. While the show isn't perfect, it still holds a place in my heart, and it deserves so much respect than it gets for being a show that really pushed the limits on how to discuss mature topics like redemption, toxic relationships, and PTSD to younger audiences, and was ahead of its time. This show is the reason why we are able to get more explicit representation of LGBT+ people as seen in The Owl House and Dead End Paranormal Park, and you can't just ignore it just because you think the show is "cringe" or whatever.
@5Chaor
@5Chaor 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of the show's issue has to do with budgeting and time constraints. The best example of this is the end are the main series where something that feels like it should be an hour and a half long TV movie only had 30 minutes. Same thing with the cluster Arc.
@CyberRaveLights
@CyberRaveLights 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think shows should have as much budgeting and time as they want, they have a story to tell, let them tell it
@crispwater7294
@crispwater7294 3 жыл бұрын
I can see why some people are dissatisfied with the conclusion to Diamond Days. By having White Diamond be "redeemed" in 5 minutes, I can see how that comes off as lazy. That episode would have been recieved better if the change happened over 10 minutes.
@ーテイル
@ーテイル 3 жыл бұрын
@@crispwater7294 an entire episode, take it or leave it.
@purple1441
@purple1441 3 жыл бұрын
@@crispwater7294 Tbh, peridot had the best redemption arc. The diamonds' redemption was way too unrealistic for the show.
@jjaa_joyjoyartist
@jjaa_joyjoyartist 3 жыл бұрын
I wish the og series had another season or two. It picked up the pace in seasons four and five but completely dropped the tension around the diamonds that had been building since season one. The cluster episode was a good episode, but it should have been a special 22 minute length. Having two major plot threads being wrapped up from season 2 in the first two episodes of the next felt kind of rushed.
@minertwinsilver6185
@minertwinsilver6185 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying that homosexuality isn’t just about sex, since a lot of people think that way, which is stupid
@truches7509
@truches7509 3 жыл бұрын
I mean there is a sexuality about not wanting to have sex so idk where anyone got that idea though-
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops 3 жыл бұрын
As an asexual who is also gay, can confirm. None of my relationships involve the sweaty naked dancing.
@QuestionableLogic_
@QuestionableLogic_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops Elaborate on this for me please?
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuestionableLogic_ On which part? Romantically, I'm attracted to the same gender. Sexually? Ew, gross. Not all aces think sex is gross, but I do. Asexuality is not having sexual attraction to people.
@filo4854
@filo4854 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops I'm a panromantic demisexual which is kinda I guess similar to asexuality to an extent
@urielacevedo
@urielacevedo 3 жыл бұрын
I feel cartoon network ruins everything that has potential on it's platform. Personally they should take a stand for what their creators want to make rather than focus on what other countries anti lgbt laws say
@toon4thought
@toon4thought 3 жыл бұрын
But I mean... Funding kind of matters. A lot. And there was no real frame of reference as to how well this would go over.
@TheDramacist
@TheDramacist 3 жыл бұрын
Weeell, Nick toons isn't any better. RIP Rise of the TMNTs
@jaycrews9905
@jaycrews9905 3 жыл бұрын
*Adventure time and ok ko*
@adog8355
@adog8355 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaycrews9905 ya
@debussy2059
@debussy2059 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly i feel like Cartoon Network is the best out there, compared to other children’s network cartoon network works especially hard to give the best of the best; and the shows on there are better than shows on other networks (in my opinion). Cartoon network doesn’t shy away from giving representation aswell and has no problem having difficult conversations, even with children.
@angryartist3170
@angryartist3170 3 жыл бұрын
I love SU so much. I will always have a fondness for it. For me SU was perfect. Just what I needed and still kinda need sometimes. And I'm just relieved after watching this because SU is so important to me and I was a little heartbroken at how much hate it was getting lately. SU and the crew mean so much to me and I hate seeing so much discourse because that's not fair to everyone who worked for years on a show that they and I love.
@PercydeRoloFangirl
@PercydeRoloFangirl 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@KirbyStarAnimation
@KirbyStarAnimation Жыл бұрын
I dislike the show and like your channel but saying the main reason why people dislike it is homophobia is not right at least for me since I find it boring and some things messed up like how they easily forgive the diamonds and a good video about it is sarcastic chorus who gave a great review about the shows pros and cons and remember people are entitled to their own opinions so don’t judge them for disliking a show just because you think it’s amazing.
@angryartist3170
@angryartist3170 Жыл бұрын
@@KirbyStarAnimation dude chill. I never attacked anyone for disliking the show. I just hate people who hate on the show without actually watching it. You can like what you want cause I genuinely don't care. Have a good day ❤
@KirbyStarAnimation
@KirbyStarAnimation Жыл бұрын
@@angryartist3170 I am sorry if it seemed like I was saying that and I was trying to refer to the more prominent community and kinda what this video does coming from a channel I like and again I am sorry and hope you have a good day
@2CoolBros.
@2CoolBros. 3 жыл бұрын
Steven never FORGAVE the diamonds, especially White. He can't punish them for anything they've done, and has tried to move on. But he never FORGAVE the person he fantasized about KILLING.
@nox8600
@nox8600 3 жыл бұрын
It kind of seems like he did. Is there any evidence of him still holding a grudge? (Actually wondering)
@idreadFell365
@idreadFell365 3 жыл бұрын
@@nox8600 in Steven Universe the Movie and Future, he clearly did not like their presence. He was also almost tempted to have White slam her four head (which has the diamond gem) against a piller or wall when she let him control her during the time Steven was going through a character crisis.
@Wavyosa
@Wavyosa 3 жыл бұрын
@@nox8600 Actually yes, Steven universe future there was an episode out where Steven was trying to face his problems and While white diamond was trying to help him he visualized him smashing her head into a pillar
@trevorphilips9065
@trevorphilips9065 3 жыл бұрын
@@nox8600 umm he tried to kill her
@prizmarvalschi1319
@prizmarvalschi1319 3 жыл бұрын
@@nox8600 when Steven did the diamond projection thing, his deepest intentions finally surfaced
@attirose7932
@attirose7932 3 жыл бұрын
We really needed a vid like this
@joshuagonzalez4183
@joshuagonzalez4183 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@mimmy4222
@mimmy4222 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@pman9730
@pman9730 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@therockwizard.9687
@therockwizard.9687 3 жыл бұрын
To make fun of! Yep!
@aliendog7627
@aliendog7627 3 жыл бұрын
@@therockwizard.9687 What
@chaliceohearts4658
@chaliceohearts4658 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t really “hate” Steven Universe. I just sort of fell out of it. My problem is that it just got to be “too much” for me. Steven Universe, specifically Steven Universe Future, reminds me of things that I’ve been though in the past. Steven’s pain reminds me of the pain I once went through. I’d rather not be reminded of the darkest years of my life.
@Mha_enthusiast0
@Mha_enthusiast0 3 жыл бұрын
@@ocelotlesbian I agree it’s okay to fall off a show for different reasons even to not like it at all it’s hard to watch or deal with things that sometimes remind you of something else
@crazyhyena1406
@crazyhyena1406 3 жыл бұрын
M o n o k u m a
@parasynesis9260
@parasynesis9260 3 жыл бұрын
that's a completely respectable reason to steer away from something like this
@sam_.offemaria9233
@sam_.offemaria9233 3 жыл бұрын
@@ocelotlesbian Okay
@itsokitsnotyoufoult8850
@itsokitsnotyoufoult8850 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@InkyBeeArtz
@InkyBeeArtz 3 жыл бұрын
I'm at 45 minutes in, I'm so glad they talked about ptsd. I was diagnosed in late 2019 and Growing Pains is a really good representation of what ptsd is. When he said "How do I live life if it always feels like I'm about to die?", it was a gritty, real feeling that everyone with ptsd feels. I'm still not recovered but SU future has really helped me figure out what i need to do to continue recovery.
@waheedabdullah6371
@waheedabdullah6371 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that before COPPA, there were many comments on Cartoon Network videos about ppl wanting to cancel SU
@prizmarvalschi1319
@prizmarvalschi1319 3 жыл бұрын
I saw so many and I just had to think to myself... Why?
@firefly6437
@firefly6437 3 жыл бұрын
@@prizmarvalschi1319 Because people have opinions,people will always have different opinions and you just have to deal with it-
@sonicthehedgehog1606
@sonicthehedgehog1606 3 жыл бұрын
Me:Hey Steven Steven: yeah Me: first time? Steven: huh
@CyberRaveLights
@CyberRaveLights 3 жыл бұрын
XD
@btg-bp4vl
@btg-bp4vl 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@CosmicSponge2004
@CosmicSponge2004 3 жыл бұрын
@@CyberRaveLights Sonic Fans, Hated By EVERYONE since. 2005
@PeterGriffin11
@PeterGriffin11 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@CPGreeno357
@CPGreeno357 3 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOOOOO didnt get this at first until i saw the name and icon
@allstrange7495
@allstrange7495 3 жыл бұрын
35:01 "The biggest selling points on Steven Universe was actually its characters, aesthetic , music, and of course its lore and world building- alongside the representation" I could not put it better myself. This perfectly summarizes what I love about the show. The representation alone isn't enough to make me love it: a lot more is present. I had my own gripes with the show, but who doesn't about basically any show. I really enjoyed this video and appreciate your commentary. I started watching this show because I decided to watch all the shows I thought had "an annoying fanbase" (I just saw it too much on insta) or were widely considered "overrated" because I thought there had to be a reason they were so beloved by a fanbase. The commentary concerning the people who hate things just because they regurgitate other opinions or because its popular previously rang true for me too. In hindsight I wasn't even annoyed by it I just saw it a lot on social media without understanding the references or characters. I recommend people watch shows they hate for no reason without watching prior because it helped me find some of my favorite series. Edit: I also like that it had an overarching plot, even if said plot had its flaws (I just like serialized stories), the stories it taught/concepts it covered without being cheesy (like Here Comes a Thought or really anytime the characters themselves had to grow), and the fight scenes (super powered fighting is almost always cool to me)
@mr.skeltal8687
@mr.skeltal8687 2 жыл бұрын
I actually was one of those people who skipped it when it first came out. I was really into adventure time and regular show at the time and the promos really made it seem like more of a kid oriented show. I was in later highschools years at that point and It just didn't look like my thing. YEARS later (during home world arc premiere), I saw a clip or two on KZbin for the new episodes and was really surprised at how complex it had gotten. So, I went back and decided to give it a chance. I fell head over heels in love with it. The characters, the world, the messages it was such a unique experience. I've seen it all a few times now and I can confidently say that it holds its own and has become one of my favorite modern cartoons. Also, if you're a fan and haven't gotten the art books, I'd recommend them. Very well thought out and beautiful illustrations!
@EJthe24TH
@EJthe24TH 3 жыл бұрын
I think Lily Orchard just got called out
@LudoLmao
@LudoLmao 3 жыл бұрын
Who?
@frencpenc795
@frencpenc795 3 жыл бұрын
@@RemLasher77 come on, you don't have to insult someone behind their back. Too much hate, it's not necessary
@kinbagecabbage667
@kinbagecabbage667 3 жыл бұрын
@@frencpenc795 They literally harassed someone for drawing their character wrong.
@madeeha.2006
@madeeha.2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@kinbagecabbage667 what?? when was this omg i didn’t know
@kinbagecabbage667
@kinbagecabbage667 3 жыл бұрын
@@madeeha.2006 I don't know, I just recall it from Cartoonshi's SubtOWLe House video, part 2.
@Rashy225
@Rashy225 3 жыл бұрын
The Steven only POV was the worst thing about the show. I still like it though. At one point I adored it!
@beedoesthings8037
@beedoesthings8037 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I will admit while the Steven only POV was still good, it held back the amount of development the world could have been given. Just an episode or two about gem society without Steven there to be an exposition sponge would have been very valuable, because as it stands gem culture is very underdeveloped to the point that when the diamonds were deposed and Future was showing the changes, I was left going, “okay, but how was it before?” I had no frame of reference for the changes so they all felt hallow to me.
@unripetheberrby6283
@unripetheberrby6283 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah sometimes it was enjoyable
@CombatSportsNerd
@CombatSportsNerd 3 жыл бұрын
I got to be honest, the show is called Steven universe. Why is it that people expected this dude not to be in nearly every episode?
@austinjohnsen4430
@austinjohnsen4430 3 жыл бұрын
@@CombatSportsNerd That doesn’t mean we have to always be shackled to Steven’s view of the world. There are plenty of episodes of spongebob where we follow other characters without spongebob being in nearly every scene.
@goatmilk1
@goatmilk1 3 жыл бұрын
@@austinjohnsen4430 There are entire episodes where SpongeBob isn't even mentioned.
@Haven414
@Haven414 3 жыл бұрын
Me: "I want something surprising to happen today" The Roundtable: *Puts "Steven Universe" and "hate" in the same video title*
@Dimonds456
@Dimonds456 3 жыл бұрын
I had to reread the title, I thought it was actually a hate video at first XD
@Haven414
@Haven414 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dimonds456 same XD
@inactivioli
@inactivioli 3 жыл бұрын
haha ikr (also, love your pfp)
@Haven414
@Haven414 3 жыл бұрын
@@inactivioli thank you! i used to normally have it as a picture of pearl (my favorite character), but people usually thought i was a girl X)
@inactivioli
@inactivioli 3 жыл бұрын
@@Haven414 oof I get that :') (Pearl is amazing though, but Smoky is my favorite)
@wackyiv219
@wackyiv219 Жыл бұрын
This show made me cry so much while also making me understand some things i was going through but was too young to really understand it. Its like it randomly hits too close to home and you can't help but explode.
@greenninja61
@greenninja61 8 ай бұрын
Patrick Star: I hate this channel.
@darthbane5676
@darthbane5676 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a Steven Universe fan and a Star Wars fan at the same time. Man, that would totally suck. Oh wait, that’s me.😓
@jirodensetsu1948
@jirodensetsu1948 3 жыл бұрын
Damn lol
@prizmarvalschi1319
@prizmarvalschi1319 3 жыл бұрын
I'm both + a Furry, Potterhead, and a lowkey otaku
@monsorelong5066
@monsorelong5066 3 жыл бұрын
You poor soul. I feel bad for you. Im a star wars fan and that's bad enough
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but I think what happened to Star Wars and Steven Universe are very different. People who disliked Steven Universe disliked it from the start, whereas the sequels split that fanbase in half. It turned diehard fans into haters, that's why they are so bitter about it. For comparison, it's like if the Steven Universe fanbase refused to believe Rose was Pink Diamond. If the fans were so revolted by this change that they refused to keep watching the show, then we have a scenario that's comparable to Star Wars. But that's not what happened because while people where skeptical of this plot-point, most of the accepted it overtime as they got more information. Compare that to Star Wars, where many fans still do not accept that Luke would have ever tried to kill his nephew, abandoned his friends, and turn his back on the galaxy. most fans still haven't accepted that because the films didn't give a strong enough argument that it was in character for Luke to act this way. Also, Star Wars was a much more brutal pill to swallow. SU fans had only been fans for like 5 years tops. Star Wars fans had been fans for over 40 years. Even prequel fans have been fans for over 10 years. That's why there was a much bigger backlash.
@a_rs0nx790
@a_rs0nx790 3 жыл бұрын
Lol same
@CPGreeno357
@CPGreeno357 3 жыл бұрын
anybody remember "su critical"? god just hearing those two words give me flashbacks
@CPGreeno357
@CPGreeno357 3 жыл бұрын
@@ocelotlesbian a sub-group of steven universe """"""""""fans"""""""""" that surfaced on tumblr(?), that heavily criticized the show. some of their takes were valid and reasonable, but most of them were REACHING. god, if i could remember any if them i'd tell ya right now but just know they were uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not good.
@jamesaaron8578
@jamesaaron8578 3 жыл бұрын
@@CPGreeno357 Freezing Climber say that to me Bizzare
@thegtfan2863
@thegtfan2863 3 жыл бұрын
I disliked Steven universe at first, until "Jailbreak" aired. That made me do a complete 180. The first season is honestly sorta bland in my opinion, but there are several key episodes that you need to watch, and are pretty interesting. Nice to see a Steven universe video once again. Missed them
@abyssgod4
@abyssgod4 3 жыл бұрын
Yep alot of people just kinda don't like the first season before jailbreak because it was just a goofy kinda boring cartoon
@Emil-lf3no
@Emil-lf3no 3 жыл бұрын
for me it was Alone Together that made me do a 180
@TheDramacist
@TheDramacist 3 жыл бұрын
I was hooked when a Giant Woman showed up
@Tendo641
@Tendo641 3 жыл бұрын
I'll admit I was trudging through it during the first half. The only reason I didn't drop it was because I heard it got better. And they were right, it really did get better.
@kingsaracoon9594
@kingsaracoon9594 3 жыл бұрын
Same! And I was in the age demographic! I thought the first season was too goofy and weird but at the same time I really liked the aesthetics so I stuck around. Jailbreak was phenomenal and was really the episode that got me hooked.
@gloomcat3867
@gloomcat3867 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best take from this is that SU is a stepping stone. It wasn't meant to be a masterpiece or a self-righteous compass, it was made to tell uncommon stories about uncommon characters a lot of people identify with, and to push boundaries about what can be shown or not in a cartoon or what is appropriate. And as most people realized, there ARE people who resonate with these stories, there are kids who need validation and courage and have stories with them as protagonists. Also, mental issues NEED to be addressed and not just ''shown''. You just have to look at how kids react to a relevant character of color as Black Panther and Garnet and many others. SU walked so the shows that we love and enjoy today could fly.
@imani7979
@imani7979 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, i don't really see garnet as "representation" for poc (specifically black people), she's just black-coded at the end of the day she's a non-human lifeform that just happened to look kinda black. I want real poc on screen like connie, now THAT'S representation.
@drakefrid4948
@drakefrid4948 3 жыл бұрын
hugs dont heal mental illness in real life but go off i guess
@August81804
@August81804 3 жыл бұрын
@@drakefrid4948 it didn’t immediately heal him. Everyone in his life was asking for support from him and eventually realized how that hurt him and apologized and offered to help him. It shows a time jump of a few months to where he is getting therapy and the people in his life are being a lot more healthy with him. It’s not immediately healed the moment he gets hugged, it’s meant to be a stepping stone to him getting the support he really needs.
@yashjoseph3544
@yashjoseph3544 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raya-ir4tm Nice job straw-manning the original commenter's points. Try actually addressing the points instead of using fallacies.
@stevenrogers2684
@stevenrogers2684 2 жыл бұрын
Well the ones that loved the show, especially this channel, did make it out like it was a masterpiece, and that no one better dare to question it or its story. I am curious to know exactly what shows that SU helped to "fly" though...
@animationsfa4478
@animationsfa4478 3 жыл бұрын
I used to hate this show with a passion at the start of it i watched one episode and was hooked. now i love this show with a passion
@animationsfa4478
@animationsfa4478 3 жыл бұрын
most of my animation are about it
@chickenstripz1961
@chickenstripz1961 3 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear, I'm glad you enjoy the show. I do as well
@Nicu-vy3gm
@Nicu-vy3gm 3 жыл бұрын
Idk i liked it when i was a kid when it first aired
@Karmeon1982
@Karmeon1982 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nicu-vy3gm I was 7 or 6 when I first saw it it was with my cousins in a hotel (it was giant women a good episode to start off watching, this show because it introduces fusion a important part of the show)
@brimcd
@brimcd 3 жыл бұрын
That was basically me with Amphibia
@WDonut04
@WDonut04 3 жыл бұрын
Coming from someone who’s a huge fan of Steven Universe, if someone has good faith criticisms of it, that’s fine with me because I do have criticisms of the show itself. However, the show is unfairly treated like a punching bag (especially by obsessive Regular Show and Gumball stans, alt-right 4channers, and Lily Orchard and her simps) for no reason. Rebecca Sugar has been through too much. People are too antisemitic and homophobic to her and her show.
@nighthawk4744
@nighthawk4744 3 жыл бұрын
You had me then you lost me.
@orlandotheg1923
@orlandotheg1923 3 жыл бұрын
You messed it up dummy
@CyberRaveLights
@CyberRaveLights 3 жыл бұрын
@@nighthawk4744 people hate Steven Universe cause they hate gays and minorities to sum it up
@WDonut04
@WDonut04 3 жыл бұрын
@@CyberRaveLights not all of them, but some of them. I can vibe more with su critics who have issues with the story than homophobes
@nighthawk4744
@nighthawk4744 3 жыл бұрын
William Afton I know about those kind of people. Like I can assume a neonazi is gonna hate steven universe by default. I was referring to lily orchard being included in that number. After season 5 I felt really disappointed and went on KZbin to see if anyone else had that feeling. Hers was the literal only video I could find at the time. I immediately assumed that it was gonna be a trash anti-gay bash on the show. But it was like 2 hours so I thought “I doubt someone would hate rant for that long” so I watched to see if there was anything redeemable. Practically everything except her anger outbursts were true. She actually pointed things out I had not even noticed before like the bismuth thing and the fact that human zoos are historically horrible and for some reason there is one in a kids show. If you haven’t watched her video I do recommend it. You can skip over the rant bits if you want.
@The_Gidz
@The_Gidz 3 жыл бұрын
I love the series but there's a ton of valid criticisms for it whether we like it or not. It's extremely flawed
@xblade149
@xblade149 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I just don't like the obvious brain dead criticism that's not constructive
@The_Gidz
@The_Gidz 3 жыл бұрын
@@xblade149 Yeah, there's a ton of that going around and I have a few friends who have insulted my liking of the show over basically nothing. But there are definitely valid problems with it, some of which have been brought up in these two hour rant videos -- despite the overall tone of them being brain dead for the sake of appealing to the people who hate the show.
@jirodensetsu1948
@jirodensetsu1948 3 жыл бұрын
Yep agreed
@Anonymous-gq4gq
@Anonymous-gq4gq 3 жыл бұрын
Agree completely
@KhaosAdmiral
@KhaosAdmiral 3 жыл бұрын
that is a good way how to look at it, While I do like the show I do have some issues with how certain aspects do play out.
@aniasc0de932
@aniasc0de932 3 жыл бұрын
the main reason I managed to get through my pain, and may I say I went through depression pretty early, is because of Steven Universe, and what it did for me compares to no other show I've ever seen, and I'm proud to call Steven Universe my main fandom, because it changed me as a person, I'm 16 now, and yet people saying a show is just a cartoon when it has just as much potential as Steven Universe did, or Adventure Time, or svtfoe, its sad because honestly I love it when my friends get into a show that I love and a show that helped me through so much hardship and even with its mistakes, I honestly never cared, I cared more about the message it gave me, to keep going through life, because life on this beautiful planet is worth it for ourselves I am proud to be apart of the Steven Universe fandom, and I will never be ashamed
@waterdroplet5594
@waterdroplet5594 2 жыл бұрын
I'm only on the 4th season, and it's already so amazing, but I can't figure our how to watch season 5-7 or whatever number of seasons there are. Pls help
@KirbyStarAnimation
@KirbyStarAnimation Жыл бұрын
I dislike the show and like your channel but saying the main reason why people dislike it is homophobia is not right at least for me since I find it boring and some things messed up like how they easily forgive the diamonds and a good video about it is sarcastic chorus who gave a great review about the shows pros and cons and remember people are entitled to their own opinions so don’t judge them for disliking a show just because you think it’s amazing.
@LegendaryAceAttorney
@LegendaryAceAttorney 9 ай бұрын
Amen to that SU is goated I just finished the show and the movie
@Suspense_Is_Dead
@Suspense_Is_Dead 3 жыл бұрын
Us fans know Steven Universe has issues, but we still love it.
@Mha_enthusiast0
@Mha_enthusiast0 3 жыл бұрын
Yep 👍🏽 we can’t ignore it but we have to realize everything has flaws
@elisd7099
@elisd7099 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mha_enthusiast0 I now consider myself an x-fan of the show now. Not just because of my own issues with the show, but because the internet pointing out all the flaws in it really made me feel dumber for not noticing any of it.😒😠😑😤 Thanks a lot, EZ PZ, Lily Orchard, E;R, upon many others!😩😫😖😣🙃😔😟😭😢🥺
@finneverwins
@finneverwins 3 жыл бұрын
@@elisd7099 same
@theblackswordsman5039
@theblackswordsman5039 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not entirely true, I hate the show for how bad it got
@Suspense_Is_Dead
@Suspense_Is_Dead 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes we need to look past mistakes and look at the beauty of something
@herodaresfire4512
@herodaresfire4512 3 жыл бұрын
I love Steven Universe primarily because of the characters and story.
@Wavyosa
@Wavyosa 3 жыл бұрын
Same💛
@servine1212
@servine1212 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why I disliked it. The characters were to hit or miss for me. Some (like connie) felt complete, while others never really got fully developed. The story concept was rad and kept me engaged, but the filler drove me crazy. Also I cant get over diamonds as characters.
@Wavyosa
@Wavyosa 3 жыл бұрын
@@servine1212 fr. I love steven universe but the way he forgives people like the diamonds drives me crazy.
@Wavyosa
@Wavyosa 3 жыл бұрын
@[Bad Boy] what’s wring with season 5?
@TheDragShot
@TheDragShot 3 жыл бұрын
​@R a n g e r ¿Season 5? I felt it was already declining by season 4. By season 5 I had already stopped watching new episodes on release, I just didn't care that much anymore. To this day I have no desire to watch the Future season at all.
@matttale7918
@matttale7918 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t hate Steven universe After all, it’s hard to hate a show without actually watching it.
@Angie_Ashf3rn
@Angie_Ashf3rn 3 жыл бұрын
BAHAHHA OKAY THIS ONE GOT ME I CANT- my sense of humor is so broken I’m a Steven universe lover but honestly, this comment really is a mood but instead of the topic being Steven universe, it’s Star Wars and things like that. I never got into those shows
@matttale7918
@matttale7918 3 жыл бұрын
@@Angie_Ashf3rn were like polar opposites lol
@Angie_Ashf3rn
@Angie_Ashf3rn 3 жыл бұрын
@@matttale7918 😂😂😂
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd 2 жыл бұрын
just curious why u didnt watch it
@matttale7918
@matttale7918 2 жыл бұрын
@@QWERTY-gp8fd never peaked my way interest for my age, and the art style and character designs didn’t do it for me, though I’ll bend on the art style and characters, it just doesn’t seem all that interesting to watch season 1 to finish for me.
@deathstar602
@deathstar602 2 жыл бұрын
"But I remember reading that RS once said....SOMEONE LIED! SOMEONE LIED TO YOU!" This was hilarious 😭😭😭
@harukano9930
@harukano9930 3 жыл бұрын
It's popular to hate on popular shows that aren't perfect. It makes some people feel good that they can point out those little bad things and seem better than all the people that enjoy this show. The more people like and praise a show, the more clever and superior the person criticizing it will seem with his edgy comments. People should learn to accept that there is no problem in enjoying a show that isn't perfect and that different opinions exist and are all valid. PLEASE use more "I don't like this, because...", rather than "This show is absolute trash and you should feel bad for liking it". Especially when a show is good (even if not perfect), as is usually the case. Those people are not just toxic, but also very annoying.
@jirodensetsu1948
@jirodensetsu1948 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah agreed
@garibaldibritann1240
@garibaldibritann1240 3 жыл бұрын
Well, EZ PZ (a troll also SU hate-boner) anyone?
@thewetstickybandits1990
@thewetstickybandits1990 3 жыл бұрын
One of my problems with his videos and here is when he said about the Diamonds being redeemed he treats his statements like it's a fact and shames any anyone who degrees and says it's insulting to Rebecca sugar.
@jirodensetsu1948
@jirodensetsu1948 3 жыл бұрын
@@thewetstickybandits1990 who are you talking about
@tunasalad9693
@tunasalad9693 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's okay to criticize a show made by a team of people, but remember you're critisizing a team of _people_
@gensynjent.espiritu7568
@gensynjent.espiritu7568 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I remember being in the 8th grade when SU first came into CN and I immediately thought of how it's definitely a kid show but boy was I WRONG. I got hooked because of one fateful flash of the channel while Steven pulled Rose's sword out of lion's head. That was the moment where I saw that Steven Universe had more.
@dazedandconfused5711
@dazedandconfused5711 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I really enjoyed the first few seasons, but the whole overaching plot was truly terrible
@xempororhxppyx
@xempororhxppyx Жыл бұрын
It IS a kid show.
@Hulk1566
@Hulk1566 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that you were able to address the "sTeVen foRGivEs nAziS" bullshit and that the Diamonds aren't actually redeemed or forgiven but rather held accountable for their actions. That really means a lot to address this problem.
@jirodensetsu1948
@jirodensetsu1948 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@carlacarrero4975
@carlacarrero4975 3 жыл бұрын
Steven may not have forgiven them but the show still tries to force us to see that their not that horrible by giving them powers that they didn’t have before just so the show can undo the damage that was done
@Hulk1566
@Hulk1566 3 жыл бұрын
@@Madmankey13 It's not redemption. It's accountability.
@ron4202
@ron4202 3 жыл бұрын
I hate what they did with the diamonds. I mean, they did genocide... ouch.
@Lolo_Antonio-FryEmUpFan
@Lolo_Antonio-FryEmUpFan 3 жыл бұрын
Ok but why he hates Kevin more than them
@Zistheone2
@Zistheone2 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the old days of Steven Universe when the only problems we had were people complaining about the Uncle Grandpa crossover & fans giving fake negative reviews for Keystone Motels
@jamesaaron8578
@jamesaaron8578 3 жыл бұрын
Little Dark Age
@GemCB7
@GemCB7 3 жыл бұрын
I am completly agree to say about "Steven perspective"... Because, yes, Steven its a middle character in development between others like Pearl, lapislazuli, and others. actually its possible to made better things without Steven. Yes, he has the moral perspective , but its not necessary when the others characters can do It for itself.
@lenardbordo9838
@lenardbordo9838 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. Maybe some spin-offs will repair that little flaw of the show. Steven is a fine person, but we had enough of him, I think.
@crashlanding9938
@crashlanding9938 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the songs and themes in the show helped me through some dark times in my life. When no one in your life has ever said some of the important messages of the show, it means a lot to finally feel like you're not crazy or being gaslit by those around u. In my family a regular theme was to be mean and never say sorry, but steven was always caring and genuinely empathetic. It makes me sad that people hate the show because steven just saying, "Hey you, show me a solvable problem" means so much to me.
@greenninja61
@greenninja61 8 ай бұрын
It’s also very useful to get laid and such.
@harriyanna
@harriyanna 3 жыл бұрын
there's always gonna be groups of people who hate things that are well-liked/popular, but there's something so mean spirited about the hate this show gets. and its kinda terrifying.
@mariedit9935
@mariedit9935 3 жыл бұрын
I've been scared to tell people S.U is my favorite cartoon because of the hate it gets :( I grew up with it Edit: love your videos
@brettkeaneindivijual1032
@brettkeaneindivijual1032 3 жыл бұрын
So, what you’re saying is that hating this show is mean spirited situation? What is this show, the bible for you? Well, I guess that Steven indivijual is like this generation’s Jesus Christ. Although, too bad he didn’t end up like our lord and savior, situation. Could you imagine that? I did-in a dream situation. I once had an indivijual dream where I was reenacting the scene of the Passion of Christ, where I was the roman indivijual and I was giving Steven the dominatrix situation. I can still remember all the blood and screaming that was coming from Steven. And then it ended when I pierce his heart after I had cruxified him, situtation. I wonder of that dream is telling me something 🤔
@firefly6437
@firefly6437 3 жыл бұрын
no I just don’t like the show- it’s not about the popularity It’s just not interesting to me.
@yourarchnemesis8453
@yourarchnemesis8453 3 жыл бұрын
or people just don't like it.
@Slyest4255
@Slyest4255 3 жыл бұрын
Not really I use to love Steven Universe but after Steven just left Lars in space with the offcolors my views on the show went down hill. I was really disappointed with that pink diamond reveal it completely changed Rose’s character for the sake of a plot twist and don’t get me started on Future. Steven Universe will always hold a special place in my heart, I and many other people who dislike the show don’t hate it just because it’s “popular” its just hard for us to get passed its many flaws.
@BabyShark-yg6to
@BabyShark-yg6to 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm not here to throw shade" *proceeds to throw shade*
@elisd7099
@elisd7099 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations,🍾🎈🎉🎊you played yourself.
@elisd7099
@elisd7099 3 жыл бұрын
@Hooty HOOT HOOT Austric Vox failed letting go of his hyper fixation with Steven Universe and making thousands of videos on it.
@elisd7099
@elisd7099 3 жыл бұрын
@Hooty HOOT HOOT Austric Vox failed to accurately represent how the fandom reacts to new episodes with his reaction videos, he acts like a spaz out snowflake hyena with 20 grand of sugar in his body. So three failures I guess.
@elisd7099
@elisd7099 3 жыл бұрын
@Hooty HOOT HOOT Failure number 4: Vox doesn’t pick up on more context as to why some of the “bad criticisms” are actually valid, the show’s animation in South Korean animation studios because of outsourcing from their because Cartoon Network cut the show’s budget, resulting in the show making less money than their other shows. Also, a lot of social commentary misconceptions about what fusion represents, and the implications of how it works logically, or how previous writing in the show’s text says many different things from earlier interpretations. So failure number 5 right there.
@elisd7099
@elisd7099 3 жыл бұрын
@Alex JG Austric Vox’s straw man argument is people hate Steven Universe or think less of it because of homophobia, and he even tries to scientifically break it down.
@rae-rae8005
@rae-rae8005 3 жыл бұрын
I swear, I had this ex friend who said he didn’t like Steven universe and he didnt even see the full series. He made me watch the first episode of one of his favorite anime’s In for him to watch more episodes of Steven universe cuz while season 1 wasn’t the BEST at design and animation, it still got amazing as it progressed. The guy who constantly complained about it, had the audacity then to go from watching the first episode to jumping to watch the LAST F**KING EPISODE OF THE SERIES!!! Why in the hell would he do that?! I get it if he actually watched more than one episode and didnt like it, but when he skipped to the last f**king episode?! That was just an insane move.
@brettkeaneindivijual1032
@brettkeaneindivijual1032 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it’s not like the middle part situations are good anyway. I suppose he’s an indivijual with a good instinct situation.
@rae-rae8005
@rae-rae8005 3 жыл бұрын
@GODWIN VINCENT GEVICE Moe Ikr..? Not to mention he had a LOT of moments where he started fights or his viewpoints just made me want to scream. Trust me, they were bad
@firefly6437
@firefly6437 3 жыл бұрын
It’s because the show isn’t interesting enough, that’s usually why I skip episodes in a show. Steven Universe was never really interesting to me.
@rae-rae8005
@rae-rae8005 3 жыл бұрын
@@firefly6437 while I admit there are skippable episodes, it infuriated me that he went straight from Gem glow to Change your mind. He missed a LOT of what happened
@jeanniemaycrawford4466
@jeanniemaycrawford4466 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh the last few episodes were trash
@jamesevans1176
@jamesevans1176 3 жыл бұрын
For me I really like the Steven centric nature of the show, it makes it feel more... Real for me? Cause you don't see things being done when you're not there, and so you want to put yourself in to help or know what happened. I loved the light hearted nature of the first viewing of the show and it was an escape for me. As the show started touching on heavier topics like relationships and mental health my love grew. Around the time of Stevonnie coming out and dealing with their own insecurities for a stronger relationship and the song Take a Moment I was dealing with my own severe depression and really made an emotional connection to the show more than "hey this is neat and has cool themes and rep!". Of course my takes and feelings are my own, and it would also have been cool to see other things happening such as Peridot on her own figuring out that Home World sucks, or Space Pirate Lars, I think Steven Universe as a show was meant to have a very singular and narrow view and it works well.
@SCOTGamingwithJack
@SCOTGamingwithJack 3 жыл бұрын
don't forget the snarky glaring rantsonas distgruntled af looking at you in thumbnails
@Tarikkb
@Tarikkb 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it was a bad show , I just think it had A LOT more potential they didn’t use , it could’ve been seriously amazing , but it’s not a bad show , I started to settle for the show tbh , I stayed for the concept and that’s it , the music is average at best and there are a lot of cringy scenes and writing
@dazedandconfused5711
@dazedandconfused5711 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the writing was terrible you can't ignore that
@dazedandconfused5711
@dazedandconfused5711 2 жыл бұрын
@@skythebunny Maybe we woulda gotten some better story plots or a nicer smoother resolution to things
@rexgood4
@rexgood4 2 жыл бұрын
@@skythebunny Slick I've begun to accept this narrative- because I forget Rebecca did work on adventure time and wrap that series up. She does write incredibly well when she's given lots of time/episodes. But she falls heavily short to being rushed.
@Samuel152
@Samuel152 2 жыл бұрын
Cartoon Network is at fault for rushing Rebecca Sugar since they didn't like Garnet's wedding.
@JLacay
@JLacay 2 жыл бұрын
@@skythebunny It's so hard to say that it's CN's fault because the Crewniverse could've made the plot a lot smoother if they got rid of half or more Beach City/filler episodes than people wouldn't complain too much.
@thegamingchannelxd9547
@thegamingchannelxd9547 3 жыл бұрын
People: daaamn Steven universe fandom still here Me: we never left
@jaycrews9905
@jaycrews9905 3 жыл бұрын
Still here
@Dimonds456
@Dimonds456 3 жыл бұрын
Present!
@jirodensetsu1948
@jirodensetsu1948 3 жыл бұрын
Yup tottally never left
@FlashQuatsch
@FlashQuatsch 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't "still" imply you never left?
@kalvin187douglas
@kalvin187douglas 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@sofiaardvark9039
@sofiaardvark9039 3 жыл бұрын
What. A. Relieving. Video. To. See. I found the part about the animation studios especially interesting, I thought the inconsistencies in the art style we're just the artists' different styles, I didn't know the animation studios also had an effect on the style.
@utopiaa_1775
@utopiaa_1775 3 жыл бұрын
It’s even weirder because Rough Draft’s work on the movie + future looks *way* more polished and on-model than their episodes for the original series, which is pretty confusing
@sofiaardvark9039
@sofiaardvark9039 3 жыл бұрын
@@utopiaa_1775 hm. That's weird, but I'm sure they had a higher budget.
@cheezbiscuit4140
@cheezbiscuit4140 Жыл бұрын
whether or not characters are "on model" all the time is an artistic choice animation studios make. The disney studio under walt had a strict all on model policy and I think that influenced a part of public opinion on that.
@krowkat5491
@krowkat5491 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I think it does lot to help with combating the negative stigma around the show. Its almost cringey how much people hate/attack the show because they cant acknowledge the good parts about it and would rather throw it and it's fans under the bus than have a meaningful conversation.
@stalebread9825
@stalebread9825 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but the space nazis and rebeccas lack of a back bone made me hate this series even more props to you for finding gold in garbage
@diminie_chimket
@diminie_chimket 6 ай бұрын
​@@stalebread9825 sorry you don't actually understand the show 😊
@stalebread9825
@stalebread9825 6 ай бұрын
@@diminie_chimket im sorry you dont and youre trying very poorly to convince me otherwise bum
@stalebread9825
@stalebread9825 6 ай бұрын
@@diminie_chimket im sorry your pea brain lacks the neccessary media litteracy to understand
@Dragonspeak30
@Dragonspeak30 Жыл бұрын
Do...do people not see how uncomfortable all the characters get whenever the Diamonds show up. It's just...always awkward af BECAUSE of that history. How is that redeeming them??
@KirbyStarAnimation
@KirbyStarAnimation Жыл бұрын
Did bismuth get punished for nearly killing Steven yes they did yet the diamonds only get a slap on the wrist rather than having them exiled from gem society at least
@Dragonspeak30
@Dragonspeak30 Жыл бұрын
@@KirbyStarAnimation It's not like they can get rid of them. Like the video said, they're the only ones that fix the problems that they caused. And with Steven moving out, they're going to be relied on even more. I'm not saying more shouldn't have been done- but this wouldn't be the first time a finale was rushed to the end cause the parent network decided the creators couldn't have more time to add to it.
@KirbyStarAnimation
@KirbyStarAnimation Жыл бұрын
@@Dragonspeak30 Yet here’s the thing the whole Cartoon Network cancellation doesn’t work since the show had 5 seasons originally but then got a movie and sequel show while the owl house didn’t even have a full third season and still did better with resolving stuff.
@Dragonspeak30
@Dragonspeak30 Жыл бұрын
@@KirbyStarAnimation Literally no one is saying this resolution was flawless, alright. You're free to dislike it all you want - but going after people who enjoyed it despite the flaws is just silly. You can like something while still being critical of it...which a majority of the fans of the final season are.
@KirbyStarAnimation
@KirbyStarAnimation Жыл бұрын
@@Dragonspeak30 I’m not going after people but I am stating my opinion and I hope you have a good day and can we atleast stop having a debate with no possible conclusion.
@Nennecatgirl
@Nennecatgirl 3 жыл бұрын
THE CROSSOVER I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!
@akiraevangelionultimateali5199
@akiraevangelionultimateali5199 3 жыл бұрын
Jasper never got any redemption and it’s kind of too late and she never will and I don’t want to any more she had a chance and she ruined it even and I am a monster she was nowhere to be found
@guccelia2701
@guccelia2701 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I don't mind that. Not everyone will have neat character arcs, and Jasper not coming around completely fits her character. The ending showed her at least having the inklings of changing her thinking- I feel that's more at home in the show's (and especially Future's) themes, that everyone changes and moves on in different ways. Jasper going from hate to scary adoration to confusion feels really interesting and dynamic for her, and lets you imagine what might happen in the future with her
@akiraevangelionultimateali5199
@akiraevangelionultimateali5199 3 жыл бұрын
@@guccelia2701 She can easily be manipulated into evil by bluebird
@KalinTheZola
@KalinTheZola 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like people can sometimes use phrases like "show don't tell" as a platitude because they don't understand what that means and shows why people need to consider writing an art form that requires study and not just something you can say you are with full authority.
@jlshootingstar333
@jlshootingstar333 Жыл бұрын
For a long time i considered SU to be "a great show with a terrible ending" but this actually made me realize the ending of the show wasn't as bad as i thought at the time. It still has flaws, but it worked out about as good as it could (especially considering the time given was shortened)
@madisongoodwin5246
@madisongoodwin5246 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone who says “it’s not for me” after watching a few episodes: I felt the exact same way. I watch cartoons like SU all the like, but I never felt compelled to watch it. Even when I did watch it, for pretty much the entire first season, I didn’t really like it. I thought it was kind of boring and I just didn’t enjoy watching it. But as I kept going, I grew to love it. So all I am asking is give it a try, and don’t stop because you don’t like the first few episodes. Edit: okay, I need to clear up a few things. I am not being a crazy fan who is defending SU just because some people don’t like it. I am simply giving my opinion. I am not saying that everyone has to watch it or that everyone will like it, I am just saying that I didn’t like it at first either but I grew to like it. I have no idea how I could have offended some of you by making this comment, but apparently I did, so I’m sorry.
@dudemevill1699
@dudemevill1699 3 жыл бұрын
It always depends on people actually.
@himdevil2391
@himdevil2391 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of logic is this. If a show doesn't grip you a show doesn't grip you. Why give a show a chance when you already did by watching a few of the episodes and coming to the conclusion that it's not for you. You sound like bronies when people say they dislike mlp after watching the first few episodes of it. "But watch more, you'll like it!" No, no I won't because the show already failed at gaining my interest. SU fan's logic never ceases to amaze me.
@dudemevill1699
@dudemevill1699 3 жыл бұрын
@@himdevil2391 They mostly just put hate comments but that's what a fan does if they dislike what they want they will defend it for their lives.some will.
@fishencasedinjelly3950
@fishencasedinjelly3950 3 жыл бұрын
I watched the entire thing and like it at first, but I felt it slowly got worse, I couldn't even finish future.
@dudemevill1699
@dudemevill1699 3 жыл бұрын
@@fishencasedinjelly3950 I finished future and it sucked the ending sucks.
@dimmie8616
@dimmie8616 3 жыл бұрын
'if every porkchop were perfect, there wouldn't be hotdogs"
@beast_pasta2392
@beast_pasta2392 3 жыл бұрын
That's my favourite Greg quote
@slumpsenju7849
@slumpsenju7849 3 жыл бұрын
It’s “we would’ve have”....right??? No seriously it’s been a while since I heard that
@COrraThereal0ne
@COrraThereal0ne 3 жыл бұрын
@@livelaughfnaf1987 IT LITERALLY ISN'T.
@yashgurango3303
@yashgurango3303 3 жыл бұрын
@@livelaughfnaf1987 no offense but its we woudnt have hotdogs
@FirstNameLastName-pg3pi
@FirstNameLastName-pg3pi 3 жыл бұрын
@@livelaughfnaf1987 no offense but its "we wouldn't have hotdogs"
@krono7843
@krono7843 3 жыл бұрын
When SU came out I thought it was just another stupid kids show but once I watched it I actually liked it and now its ij my top 5 favorite shows.
@ChaosEnthusiast
@ChaosEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
this show did not deserve all this hate man
@NickAndriadze
@NickAndriadze 2 жыл бұрын
*24:29* That's exactly what I liked about King Andrias' ''redemption'' in Amphibia. He wasn't redeemed, he was just given a satisfying conclusion. His final scenes reflect that. Andrias, after thousands of heinous acts he did to the flora and fauna of Amphibia, is seen tending to the wildlife, *in chains,* which shows that he has not been forgiven. He has only been given a chance.
@deannawaller7462
@deannawaller7462 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up on Steven and I just lived for everything going on. My dad doesn’t like it because Steven has a gem in his bellybutton even tho never watching the show. And I’ve seen a comment saying “ If you like Steven universe you are gay” me being a straight person 🤨
@kennyobi9871
@kennyobi9871 3 жыл бұрын
Stevens gem is on his stomach because he doesn't have a bellybutton. Steven never had an unbelical cord since he was never born. Your dad missed that. He also may have missed the gay is okay memo.
@kyssully
@kyssully 3 жыл бұрын
@@ocelotlesbian tf
@sabriel_-
@sabriel_- 3 жыл бұрын
Same👄👁️👄 Except for the fact that im gay- lol
@kosei8338
@kosei8338 3 жыл бұрын
I am here now because I this show helped me threw my loneliness. It made me feel better about myself. It got me into singing which I love to this day. Most of my friends are not straight I love them so much. Do they like this show no. But when I bring it up to normies I get laughed at but it is a good show. My favorite show in the whole world and I cried to see it go
@parasynesis9260
@parasynesis9260 3 жыл бұрын
thanks so much for this! i'm a die-hard fan aswell, but you did help me understand more about the diamond arc. i never really considered WHY they had to stay somewhat in power
@mikaylalynn7682
@mikaylalynn7682 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved all of SU because it taught me so much, even in just one episode. Ill always be a die hard SU fan 💘
@TheBig_Boss64
@TheBig_Boss64 3 жыл бұрын
It’s more popular to hate Star Vs than SU
@stevenarts5415
@stevenarts5415 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno about that maybe svtfoe is hated just bc of the ending i gotta admit it was a fast wrapup with not mutch ecplonation and it was disapointing star deystroyed magic tho su can't be hated it is just imposiible to find any biig reason to say that the show is awful
@supercvnt
@supercvnt 3 жыл бұрын
At least Svtfoe actually deserved criticism
@stevenarts5415
@stevenarts5415 3 жыл бұрын
@@supercvnt yeah it did i'm not saying su deserved it., It doesn't
@jaylinroyal2173
@jaylinroyal2173 3 жыл бұрын
@@supercvnt steven universe does deserve it critism what are you getting at the plot problems cliches bad writing handling of poor characters is valid critism and not because its popular it just it has bad writing ends conflicts terribly and and sends some bad messages sometimes
@mariedit9935
@mariedit9935 3 жыл бұрын
I mean... you're not wrong lol
@dervinci4757
@dervinci4757 3 жыл бұрын
Steven Universe has always been a special show for me. I've been a fan since the beginning, having watched the premiere in 2013 at age 11. At the time, I felt that I connected with Steven due to his bubbly and 'wanting to see the best in people' nature. I had never seen a (human) character like Steven before, and even small details like his heavy-set design were super appreciated to me, as I wasn't exactly a slim kid myself. Looking back, it's odd really, I've been compared to Steven in real life before, but I've never really sat down and thought about how much this show grew with me. How Steven grew up with me. Of course, I'm not a half-gem half-human individual, but I was still a kid who was growing up and starting to see the world around himself for what it really is (that it's not all sunshine and rainbows), much as Steven would learn new things about the gems and the world around him not being picture-perfect either. Jump to 2019, back when we were first introduced to the time skip, Steven now being 16. Funny enough, I happened to be 16 years old when the movie premiered. It wasn't really until Future started airing that I had come to appreciate Steven growing with me, as I myself had been suffering from blaming myself for actions and feelings I had felt in the past and present. I had a hard time accepting myself, and would often let my anxiety get the best of me. Seeing that Steven was facing similar problems, although being fictional, was really comforting for me, and hell, I'd say helped me get onto my path to self-acceptance. When the finale aired, now being 17 at the time, I had never cried so much at any piece of media in my life. The finale and Steven turning into a monster felt so real to me, I knew exactly what he was feeling and it really stuck with me. Seeing Steven get through it, and him realize that although he isn't perfect, he still has a family that loves him and supports him made me realize that I'm not perfect, and that's okay. My favorite songs from SU further showcasing this, being "Looking Forward" and "Change Your Mind". I feel as though I can't thank Rebecca Sugar and her crew enough for their creation, as I definitely wouldn't be the same person I am today without it.
@noakinn
@noakinn 3 жыл бұрын
"name one show that's perfect" Avatar: TLA :))
@jeanniemaycrawford4466
@jeanniemaycrawford4466 3 жыл бұрын
True true
@ZarenXI
@ZarenXI 3 жыл бұрын
The Great Divide
@COrraThereal0ne
@COrraThereal0ne 3 жыл бұрын
You mean Gary Stu Aang who literally bows as the plot demands him. The finale bullshit where Aang gets his *Avatar Spirit* back through getting *physically* hit in one spot in his back and immediately knows everything from his past lives. *IS JET ACTUALLY DEAD? THAT'S NOT EVEN A JOKE, THE WRITERS JUST GOT LAZY AND FORGOT ABOUT HIM THEN OFFHANDEDLY REFERENCE IT IN EMBER ISLAND PLAYERS* *THE PACING OF BOOK 3 IS RUBBISH* *Zuko's mom plot goes fucking nowhere and no I'm not gonna read a book to solve a plot thread explicitly set up in a fucking TV show and then went nowhere* *Zuko magically perfecting the lightning redirecting technique the instant he uses it against his father without having done so before hand* *The spirit world* *Aang probably could've called on another Avatar to possess his body if he was really hesitant in his fight with the fire lord* *Aang couldn't have called upon a spirit to posess his body in his fight with Ozai?* *Aang was specifically told that in order to regain his Avatar State he would have to let go of everyone he cares about and then it's never bought up again*
@charleswashington3447
@charleswashington3447 3 жыл бұрын
@@COrraThereal0ne that's not what happened, he lost his connection to the avatar state when he got one shot in the back and had to reconnect to it. When Zuko redirected the lightning, isn't that what happenes to every anime character every. Everything else you said was true.
@snorey1176
@snorey1176 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZarenXI great divide may be the worst episode in atla but it’s still a good one
@azumarill964
@azumarill964 3 жыл бұрын
Steven Universe was one of my favorite cartoons of all time when it started, and I still acknowledge its moments of brilliance, that showcase what a special show it could´ve been, but at least for me, it has given one bad step after another, to the point in which it fell from grace for me. It in not a good show, nor a bad show, it is a cartoon that exists.
@naijah8151
@naijah8151 3 жыл бұрын
U understand my feelings yet I get called a phobe and satan his words not mine I mean he said it in the video I’m gonna go watch ATLA😂😂
@azumarill964
@azumarill964 3 жыл бұрын
@@naijah8151 Bruh, jails exist, gem bubbles that prevent regeneration exist, it is the least you can do to defeat a threat like the Diamond authority. I have no problem with the diamonds being portrayed as tragic individuals, but talking it out because of that is a bit too much.
@purple1441
@purple1441 3 жыл бұрын
Steven Universe used to be my favorite show from Seasons 1 to 3. I didn't like Seasons 4 and 5. The movie was okay, but then Future ruined everything. And the diamonds are probably the most poorly written villains I've ever seen in any form of media. Seasons 1 to 3 feel like they were written by an entirely different person compared to the rest of the show.
@azumarill964
@azumarill964 3 жыл бұрын
@@purple1441 I’d probably take Future over seasons 4 and 5 any day. I understand it is not a good follow up to the ideas in the main show, but I still think it is fine as a story. I saw it when I was in a very low point in my life, and I could relate a little bit, and it made me feel a little bit better. Some episodes are gems, especially Snow Day. The finale was awful, but it was fine overall.
@purple1441
@purple1441 3 жыл бұрын
@@azumarill964 understandable
@allstrange7495
@allstrange7495 3 жыл бұрын
Great video dude! The effort showed. I noticed how your lines matched up with the characters' speech multiple times. You fleshed out a lot of concepts I've already heard and considered in a well though out manner. I hope this video gets the attention it deserves
@orlandotheg1923
@orlandotheg1923 3 жыл бұрын
The show has MANY problems, issues that many criticize and it is justified, don't be surprised and if someone hates it, whatever, if you think its perfect to you, sure, just enjoy it. I used to be a huge fan but I have a love-hate relationship with SU, an atrocious finale and season 5 was a dumpster fire, I have many criticisms of the show, it has some great aspects but in my eyes is brought down by all the complete and utter shit its packed with. (Also stevens depression in Future is portrayed badly, what a fucking joke)
@purple1441
@purple1441 3 жыл бұрын
Steven Universe used to be my favorite show from Seasons 1 to 3. I didn't like Seasons 4 and 5. The movie was okay, but then Future ruined everything. And the diamonds are probably the most poorly written villains I've ever seen in any form of media. I think I also have a love-hate relationship with this show. Seasons 1 to 3 feel like they were written by an entirely different person compared to the rest of the show.
@chickenstripz1961
@chickenstripz1961 3 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between criticism and out right attacking a person for mentioning the show. (Which does happen and was also the point of the video)
@orlandotheg1923
@orlandotheg1923 3 жыл бұрын
@@purple1441 100% factual
@orlandotheg1923
@orlandotheg1923 3 жыл бұрын
@@chickenstripz1961 obviously, I'm talking about genuine criticism.
@stevenrogers2684
@stevenrogers2684 2 жыл бұрын
@@orlandotheg1923 yeah people keep *saying* their attacked for liking the show but I’ve rarely seen that. Criticizing the shows flaws isn’t actually attacking you. Maybe you don’t like having to explain why you like certain things but it’s not an attack.
@soumatwins8237
@soumatwins8237 4 ай бұрын
I have a somewhat complicated relationship with Steven Universe. Originally I *hated* the show, but not due to fandom or anything. I hated it because the Season 1 marketing annoyed me and some season 1 episodes I peeked at grossed me out? In the sense that I judged it by the artstyle. On top of that a lot of people were insisting i had to watch it which made me petty as hell. Around the time I was a freshman though (I'm 24 now for reference) I saw some really cool fanart on tumblr that made me reconsider, so I "secretly" started watching it, not wanting people to go "I told you so," and fell in love. I "secretly" made fanart and eventually got so obsessed i just had to talk about it which made me... regrettably tell my ex. The very person that insisted I watched it in the first place and tried to get me into it by joking he looked like a hispanic Steven. My love for the show outgrew his since at a certain point he started talking shit about it being "milked" and on top of that I saw a lot more drama over the years about people criticizing the show and just.. A lot of rocks were thrown at me basically. He and I had a very messy breakup for unrelated reasons, people were criticizing the show in bad faith, some of my closest friends hated on some of my favorite characters or spread completely untrue rumors, i heard some horror stories involving the toxic part of the fandom, and on top of that I endured a couple of hiatuses so it felt like my love for the show kept being tested that by the time Future's finale aired i just felt exhausted.. I want to rewatch the show. I want to recontextualize it instead of seeing my abusive ex in Steven (in appearance alone with minor personality bits). I want to ignore all of the drama, but I guess it's just exhausting to even try now... All this to say *thank you* for making this video.. Even if idiots will continue to be idiots it puts me at ease knowing that there are good and well-informed people defending the show. I hope that makes sense, I'm not really good at articulating things..
@arlyduran1510
@arlyduran1510 3 жыл бұрын
AGREED!!!! Here’s my lil two cents on my SU experience: I was really skeptical of the show when it first started, but I got around to watching it during season 3. I fell in love with the character interactions and the hidden lessons the show had to provide. After seeing other good shows turn a bit sour as they progressed, I didn’t want that to happen to SU. Then the movie came out and my skepticism was proved wrong. Then same thing when Future was announced. The hatred towards SUF so was immense that I refrained from watching it until I asked one of my good friends if it was good or not. After a quick recommendation, I watched SUF in one whole sitting. The most impactful part of Future though was its portrayal of anxiety, depression, and ptsd. Yes it has a few issues with it, but there’s no such thing as a perfect representation. The insecurities of Steven not being needed, the anger towards himself for not knowing what his purpose is other than “helping”, the despair to which he turns to different (healthy AND unhealthy) coping mechanisms like planting or fighting and how even then coping doesn’t remove the issue from existing, to even the desperation of wanting to marry Connie because then he’d feel wanted again.... all of that connected to me as a person who deals with both anxiety and depression and has also suffered emotional trauma that still affects how I live and see myself to this day. I still turn to fanarts and conversations about the show because it shows me that what I’m living through is a real existing thing with real effects to both myself and the way I act. It says that I’m valid, and that it’s okay. If you hate the show because it’s not your thing, that’s alright. If you critically criticize it not for knocking it down but instead for analyzing it, that’s alright. Hating it and influencing others to despise it for its “bad morals and lessons and its immature childish image” is so heartbreaking to see and hear. This show has substance that can help someone to see the error of their ways or even strive to do better. Just like my hesitance to keep watching in fear of what horrible things this show could “teach me” almost prevented me from finding true comfort in the validation of my experiences, creating that hesitation in others could prevent them from finding something they could enjoy or even learn from. anywho those are my two cents but thank you to y’all for making it this far! Have a fantastic day!!!
@deshawnedwards6412
@deshawnedwards6412 3 жыл бұрын
The first Roundtable video of 2021!
@jessiepandora7437
@jessiepandora7437 3 жыл бұрын
I am a simple person, I see a Roundtable vid, I click. If I see Veridis Joe? I AM LIGHTSPEED
@henyo5409
@henyo5409 Жыл бұрын
2 years later this still holds up. great work guys. yall always made the best SU videos
@RockFendiiiii
@RockFendiiiii Жыл бұрын
alot of this is just wrong
@at5203
@at5203 Жыл бұрын
@@RockFendiiiii What parts specifically
@cookievampiress
@cookievampiress 3 жыл бұрын
This show will always mean a lot to me but that doesn’t mean it’s flawless I can learn from what it did right and what it did wrong and that’s OK
@lenardbordo9838
@lenardbordo9838 2 жыл бұрын
Let's hope the crew will too.
@BrandonJames2016
@BrandonJames2016 3 жыл бұрын
One of my friends refuses to watch the show because of “lesbian rocks” but I told them to give it a try and it wasn’t for them but they didn’t say it was trash so everyone has different tastes in shows and that’s fine
@ghostpoke
@ghostpoke 3 жыл бұрын
Steven universe future blew my expectations out of the water. this is a Childs cartoon we are talking about and i was invested all the way to the end of the show. Steven didn't feel out of character at the end, is was a mental break down and i felt so invested in the effects he had on himself and others around him. the emotions and his ups and downs felt real. unexpected, manic..
@takke9830
@takke9830 9 ай бұрын
The most infuriating thing about reading white diamond as a „na*i“ is that rebecca explained in an interview that she was inspired by an old psa made for girls about menstruation that was being really rigid and cold and how she felt that white diamond representing that would be a good thing to have as a villian in the show. An old outdated system gatekeeper who doesn‘t really get the „youth“ with their „rainbow nonesense everywhere!“ basically that was what she was meant to be. The gem equivalent of that ra*ist relative essentially but as a representative of a advanced species. White is a traditionalist regressive if anything. And a symbol of a black and white rigid worldview. That‘s why her shoes look like ancient marble and her appearance looks both like a old timey statue and also a 20‘s cartoon. Like the actresses of old timey movies with that black lipstick. And I for one really appreciate that she was willing to change cause it represents that sugar at least believes that even old timey regressives can adapt and try to do better or at least understand the ones they try to opress. The show doesn‘t ever try to say being a bigot is ok if you just say sorry once. It‘s trying to find ways to actually change the minds of these kinds of people and systems in order to inspire children and adults that enjoy the show to try and solve issues without violence. And while there is a limit to what you can do, what the show does from the beginning is that although people can be messy and can get into fights so easily, there is still ways to talk about things and come to a consensus. Wich can happen. I did that myself. It‘s hard. It‘s very difficult, but it‘s not impossible. You just have to be willing to see the people you talk to as human beings and talk to them in ways that actually impacts them to open their minds and find consensus. We don‘t live in a perfect world of course. But we also won‘t ever get far especially in stuff like exploring the universe if we endlessly just go by a kill or be killed mentality.
@BigBroTejano
@BigBroTejano 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that thumbnail totally isn’t inviting some easily avoidable backlash that I’m sure won’t later be complained about.
@QuBeeni
@QuBeeni 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanzigFan-vq3zf wdym?????
@jamesaaron8578
@jamesaaron8578 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanzigFan-vq3zf hahahaahahahah How the hell it turn as click bait The time The thumbnail qoute Or even the video Is so bad that much worst part calling it a click bait
@stevenrogers2684
@stevenrogers2684 2 жыл бұрын
They literally picked a fight on purpose with that one. Then tried to play victim.
@CPGreeno357
@CPGreeno357 3 жыл бұрын
god i just feel like this video is gonna cause some discourse for the next few weeks lmaoooooooooo
@aworldanonymous
@aworldanonymous 3 жыл бұрын
You've got me convinced to give it another try, I think my only barrier to it now is that what I remember from watching it is that I found it kinda twee for my tastes, which is fine, I get why people like that, but it's not really my style. The biggest thing that had me convinced not to continue watching it however. was the redemption arc thing, which as you've pointed out here is more about accountability and restorative justice than "instant redemption of the bad guys", which actually has me more interested to watch those parts of the show than I was before.
@jamesaaron8578
@jamesaaron8578 3 жыл бұрын
You can make a response video on Awstruckvox
@maurycyoseka1057
@maurycyoseka1057 Жыл бұрын
Ruby Gleeman: "But critics hate Steven Universe." Grand Mama: "Of course they do. Critics are stupid."
@yowonderland5710
@yowonderland5710 3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely didn't like the show to begin with, I thought EVERYONE LIKED the show. I knew nothing about the hatedom.
@nameless_noofab
@nameless_noofab 3 жыл бұрын
my classmates do be hating me for being too addicted ( they said "they waste their time singing nonsense" )
@BootybaHooty
@BootybaHooty 3 жыл бұрын
get new friends
@azcartoons4622
@azcartoons4622 3 жыл бұрын
The songs of Steven Universe are beautiful works of art
@eduardoho5637
@eduardoho5637 3 жыл бұрын
At least, Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi had much better nonsense singing.
@FirstTry9948
@FirstTry9948 3 жыл бұрын
My love for the series doesn’t return from Steven’s evolution, it’s Spinel.
@mancave10369
@mancave10369 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, the “You guys are just dumb” part and the thumbnail are meant for the toxic/immature haters and critics only, not for the hatedom and critics in general. (P.S. Thank you so much for making this video. After having to endure what seemed like hundreds of SU hate comments, it’s nice to see people who seem to agree with me on my thoughts on SU and (a big portion of) the hatebase.) Steven Universe is perhaps my #1 cartoon I like that everyone (or at least most people) seem(s) to hate.
@alexgomez6723
@alexgomez6723 3 жыл бұрын
It’s poorly communicated and the arguments are terrible
@stevenrogers2684
@stevenrogers2684 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raya-ir4tm basically he’s whining about people criticizing something he likes, and how dare people not think this show is amazing even with glaring flaws. I had to actually laugh at how angry he was sounding complaining about how people were complaining.
@flowerbit4137
@flowerbit4137 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!! Steven Universe needed a video like this so badly
@ssshinomiya5125
@ssshinomiya5125 3 жыл бұрын
The first few seasons were just dope in a way that I could jump in, watch the ep, and finish it without thinking about it later...but now it's too complicated and I can't just watch it without seeing a character crying or some emotional thing which is just...not my thing TL;DR: Me want fighting, not crying
@HellfireComms
@HellfireComms 3 жыл бұрын
I would've liked a bit more action, but the whole show has been emotional management my dude. Crying was a thing way before S3.
@xmant8842
@xmant8842 3 жыл бұрын
I respect both action and emotion. I'm kind of fine with a show lacking one as long as it has the other and does it well (and if it doesn't have either, characters can help me love the show). That's why I like steven universe and Darling in the Franxx (an anime most people don't seem to like because of the finale. People say how much they hate the ending because of a big out of nowhere twist in the story but I didn't care because the characters were pretty great and the love story of the two main characters was beautiful and tragic.
@SoupsStudios
@SoupsStudios 3 жыл бұрын
49:43 hey... uh, so unlike many think, same applies to furries! I know it’s not really on topic just feel like people should know since the big stereotype is that it’s a kink.... which, I mean, it can be.... but it’s a wholesome community and you should get to know more about instead of being a sheep and abusing them before know more. Great video guys! Really appreciate what was said.
@hypnoticskull6342
@hypnoticskull6342 3 жыл бұрын
"Who wants to watch a show about people crying?" :Every fan of SU: M I I
@Endothelia
@Endothelia 3 жыл бұрын
The way he said "but the takeaway wasn't supposed to be PEARL RAPED GARNET" had me rolling. I've been a fan of the channel for 4 years now, and the way it grew up and evolved is fuckin' amazing.
@southeastindependentsocial330
@southeastindependentsocial330 2 жыл бұрын
That one really got me too 🤣
@researcherchameleon4602
@researcherchameleon4602 3 жыл бұрын
36:03 “GET BACK TO WORK OR YOU’RE SHATTERED”
@prizmarvalschi1319
@prizmarvalschi1319 3 жыл бұрын
Made me smile
@researcherchameleon4602
@researcherchameleon4602 3 жыл бұрын
Aquamarine: “want to know who else threatens to shatter people? MY DAD”
@rainbowbrony12
@rainbowbrony12 3 жыл бұрын
*sees this thumbnail today, on Friday* "Well, I wasn't until now..."
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