The GOAT XV | Rugby Pod Pick RWC Dream Team

[@TheRugbyPod]

THE RULES OF THE GAME: Can only select from the starting XV of the 2015 All Blacks, 2023 Springboks & 2003 England RWC Winning sides 🏆

[@kristian762]

Just do like world rugby and change the rules quick. Cause I wanna pick from the Bok bench

[@Will123Ben]

PSDT and Richie McCaw mentioned in the same breath! Legends of the game!

[@sportsdictionary590]

McCaw and PSDT is the best flanker combo of all time IMO

[@darnellengelbrecht4400]

These two would be unplayable

[@kainoizking]

It would literally be unfair to play that 6&7 combo. Can you even imagine lining up in the tunnel, looking to the side and seeing those 2.

[@owyn4799]

@@sportsdictionary590 It's a literal struggle to pick an 8 man with those 2 guys as well. Like between Parisse, Read, Vermuelen, Savea, maybe throw Pocock in there? Who do you pick?

[@ashleysoudah]

McCaw, PDST, Pierre Spies

[@mikezog1030]

@@owyn4799 Tough choice for a fetcher between Pocock and McCaw.

[@theinnercircletrainee1117]

Guys don’t remember mr consistent Ben smith. Unsung hero of that all blacks team

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

Ben Smith was absolutely brilliant

[@desttu9531]

I know Jesse Kriel is in the convo as one half but we have to mention Am who had a great 2019 RWC and was legitimately the best 13 in the world for a while

[@tiekumark]

@ lukannyo Am was in the conversation of one of the best players in the world for 4 years till his injury. Kriel couldn’t get a look in.

[@desttu9531]

@@tiekumark yup, I fully agree with that. Injuries have curtailed his progress in the last few years

[@shelr8204]

Am has a great rugby brain on him. That behind the back pass to Nkosi lives rent free in my head but credit to Kriel for taking his opportunity and playing the best rugby of his life.

[@tiekumark]

@@shelr8204 yeah Kriel took his chance well during Am’s injury

[@axxey]

@@tiekumark recency bias, Kriel has had his best year ever so far this year, not so standout consistantly historically. Randomly i would have easily gone conrad smith for 13 but a toss up at 12.

[@Damudean]

Smith is easily the best Fullback out of those three

[@blizzard6741]

Who invited England 03?

[@Sbu_Phakathwayo]

We have an imposter in our mix 😂😂😂

[@nkosinathimazibuko2561]

Nahh for real😂😂

[@booey28]

😂

[@Bambi157]

😂😂😂😂

[@kingwobz7556]

Was the last time any other team other than the AB's or springboks had the cup

[@brodieanderson3414]

Savea on the wing in 15 was the bus , he couldn’t be stopped

[@Waywind420]

Michael Hooper stopped him cold

[@taraishot100]

Julian Savea was a beast in his prime he still plays super rugby for Moana Pasifika

[@nicjanos3260]

that Number 8 call is an all time shocker over Read and Duane! 😂

[@wesleylang172]

Good lord not taking Read is criminal.

[@desttu9531]

Dallaglio going in over those two guys are a crime against Rugby😂😂 and they made it sound like an easy choice

[@HhhFff777-q4c]

As a Boks Support - I would say it has to be Read at 8

[@rprobp186]

Nah you’re showing your age, lol at no 8

[@Damudean]

Yep, their choice was emotional 😂😂😂

[@RozWentworth]

hmmm...Ox definitely all time no. 1

[@nicholausvanheerden3470]

Without a doubt.

[@ContendwithChristJ12-1]

​@nicholausvanheerden3470 I agree not a prop out there that can stand against him

[@thanduxoloponti2415]

What about Os Durant?

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

He didn’t start

[@lesedi.p.m.k]

He didn't start in the final

[@monzt7230]

I felt inlove with him when he done the haka😂😂😂

[@aldobonaso3481]

I think the 2019/2023 Boks haven't finished writing their careers, so are at a bit of a disadvantage here...after they retire, people will look back and be astonished by what they managed to achieve...but these are all incredible players/teams.

[@kylewestman5400]

Agreed, a Pollard, Eben, Frans, PSDT, Kriel, Kolbe. Honestly speaking 😂😊

[@skibbitybopmdada]

@@kylewestman5400can’t forget Doogz greatest inside center

[@louisfourie800]

As a south african, you cant put pollard above DC. Like yeah pollard is one of the best ever fly halfs, but DC, maybe Richie mccaw are the best rugby players of all time. And jonny wilkonson arguably the 2nd best england player of all time.

[@matthewvanrensburg3824]

The comment section showing just how few people actually listen to hear/pay attention with their entirely out of context complaints about the selections made and fan favs who were snubbed yet not eligible😂😂😂

[@sibzism]

Okay... got a bit strange with the DC worship, but totally understandable 😂 Imagine a world where McCaw and PSDT played in the same team 🤯😳

[@mikebrownphotography2784]

Ignoring the subs/bomb squad is a crime. Ox Nche, Malcolm Marx…. How are they not in the conversation

[@patrickchilds2987]

Ox is a wonderful player but played off the bench . He is up against players such as Oz DuRand, Jason Leonard, Tony woodcock. As for Marx he was hardly the best hooker at the rwc, Mauvaka, Sheehan? Montoya, the past hookers like Fitzy, Wood,

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

@@patrickchilds2987Marx exited the tournament early, so that wasn’t his time. Seriously Marx is the greatest 2 in rugby history, easily.

[@simonhague2674]

That was fun... Good stuff lads!

[@skibbitybopmdada]

Leaving out the Snake gonna mad a lot of Kiwis mad

[@mornepieterdelport5632]

I would love to see a dream team from 03 England team, 07 Springboks and 11 all blacks.

[@mvubu6823]

I want to know what POLLARD has to do to get ahead on the all time #10 list ahead of Wilko. His achievements and MVP level are insane. 2 x WC gold, 1 x WC bronze (all whilst making multiple clutch plays or kicks in all 3 events), Junior WC, max individual points in a match vs the ABs ever.

[@LetsOGGE]

You make a valid case for Pollard; the reality is Wilkinson transcended that fly half position. In a way.. he’s the Lomu of the fly half position as McCaw is at flanker. Carter quickly took over from Wilkinson but.. it’d always be them two at the top.

[@TheCryptoSniper]

Pollard is quiet low coverage, low ego, quiet guy..

[@sechuan]

i think DC over pollard any day... excpet WC final day. i think if youre choosing a team to win you the cup, you gotta take pollard

[@mvubu6823]

@@sechuan I said SECOND PLACE DC is the king

[@treeZo360]

Pollard is what, 29? And he cant start for springboks...im a bok fan but its disrespectful to Carter and Wilkinson comparing them to Pollard....many a player has won a world cup but its their performances as a whole that is viewed. Goal kicking alone cant be viewed as the ultimate barometer

[@mikezog1030]

I am South African and I would choose DC and Wilkinson.

[@saiyandemonisher]

How the fk do you pick a World team without OX Nche. The Rugby pod sponsored by World Rugby

[@matthewvanrensburg3824]

Didnt start the final, so not eligable for this little game.

[@owyn4799]

Was Oxs name mentioned?? It's starting xv.

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

LISTEN TO what they said

[@Forcez89]

Calm down buddy it’s not that deep 😂

[@patrickchilds2987]

There are plenty of outstanding props in the same bracket, big Oz du Rand, Jason Leonard? Yhe Beast, and my pick Tony woodcock.

[@brodieritete7568]

Leaving Australia out who has won more RWCs than England TFOH

[@Jay685toa]

Australia 1999 Rugby World Cup squad: Andrew Blades, Tom Bowman, Matt Burke, Matt Cockbain, Mark Connors, Dan Crowley, John Eales (captain), Owen Finegan, Michael Foley, David Giffin, George Gregan, Nathan Grey, Richard Harry, Daniel Herbert, Tim Horan, Rod Kafer, Phil Kearns, Toutai Kefu, Stephen Larkham, Chris Latham, Jason Little, Patricio Noriega, Jeremy Paul, Joe Roff, Scott Staniforth, Tiaan Strauss, Ben Tune, Chris Whitaker, Jim Williams, David Wilson. Australia 1999 World Cup Cricket team : Stephen Waugh (c), Shane Warne (vc), Michael Bevan, Adam Dale, Damien Fleming, Adam Gilchrist, Brendon Julian, Shane Lee, Darren Lehmann, Glenn McGrath, Damien Martyn, Tom Moody, Ricky Ponting, Paul Reiffel, Mark Waugh.

[@axxey]

I could happily take Tim Horan at 12 and John Eales out of this selection. Then i have 2nd thoughts at lock, i wish i could pick Retallick, Matfield, Eales and Etsabeth at the same time.

[@deonsmit5398]

Finally rugby commentary outside of SA that pronounces Damian Willemse correctly. I don't understand how they all pronounce Damian Mckenzie no problem and sound like theiy have a stroke when it comes to Damian Wilemse

[@VanderlayLux]

Awesome video, very entertaining

[@adrianincapetown7043]

Just gonna say, Damian Willemse has two WC winners medals by the age of 25.

[@MobBarley00]

Ox will be rugby player of the year. First prop to win it. In a just world anyway.

[@axxey]

It would be nice if he got a nomination but criminal if he's ahead of PSDT this year unless something vastly changes in end of year tours. Modern props are difficult to select as they don't play large % of games. I think PSDT is 5 player of the match out of 6? games played.

[@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905]

at least 6/15 are complete misses for me, but to each his own i guess Jim

[@mikezog1030]

Dallaglio!? Pish, Duanne killed them all although Kieran Reid was super mobile.

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

Reid probably otherwise Vermuelen. Only 2 names at 8.

[@heathbatwell4479]

The England squad won one World Cup, NZ and SA teams won back to back RWC with most of their squads intact.

[@hctnati]

The 2011 to 2015 AB team lost only 3 games during that period. Had no idea. However, it highlights how good that team was.

[@ShiNooBi1986]

England players will only make the bench maybe

[@treytoomuch]

True but some of those selections you cannot deny...

[@MrAhuapai]

@@ShiNooBi1986 Martin Johnson and Jason Robinson would be my English picks

[@CraigMinnie]

Stop talking about the English greats that won one world cup and were world class for maybe 4 years .They not in the same league as the Southern hemisphere 2 great teams the one that dominated for 10 years and the other that's been at the top for 6 years.If you choose a greatest team it would be difficult to get more than 3 Northern hemisphere players in it

[@desttu9531]

Thank you for pointing out the obvious!! The English always measure their success tenfold compared to others😒 just like they do in football and cricket

[@simoping]

@@desttu9531 🤣🤣🤣

[@liamwilliams6651]

South Africa never dominated like NZ did. They won two worlds cups and then played second fiddle to NZ in the RC every year. Only NZ have ever dominated the sport.

[@CraigMinnie]

@liamwilliams6651 If you think we haven't dominated what do you call back to back world cups a British and Irish lions series, beaten the All blacks in there last 4 games .So Nz is my second favorite team and I just love Southern hemisphere rugby dominating world rugby.Tell me what your Northern hemisphere rugby teams have ever dominated or achieved, Oh sorry you have 1 world cup in 40 years.

[@fomofud9479]

​@CraigMinnie he is talking about between RWC's mate. The AB's of 2015 had a 90% record, the Boks between 2019 and 2023 had a 62% win record.

[@jaybeenabaro]

Very difficult to pick a team given its very subjective and with only teams from '03,'15 and '23 to choose from but if you included the '07 springbok team I would choose Matfield as one of the locks and Habana on 1 wing. Eales and Gregan (from '99)would be contenders probably Joost from '95 as well (maybe as subs)

[@Cereal_Killa_za]

Would go FdP 07 over joost

[@stuartwood9339]

Jeez boys, some wild selections here 😂😂

[@spikem8613]

Gareth Edwards and Phil Bennett (Wales 9 & 10). Out of this world and worth a mention. Go watch the videos of those two from the 70's, if you can.

[@meeshnozigqwaba8972]

how many world cups did they win?

[@ShiNooBi1986]

They won a series in NZ for Wales and led the British and Irish Lions to Victory and grand slams in the 70s. They are greater than this Irish team currently

[@desttu9531]

So the best loosehead props in WC history is an Englishman???😂 Kitshoff, Ox, Mtawarira, DuRant, Moody, etc

[@ContendwithChristJ12-1]

😂

[@knowmean]

Os du rant best ever . These twats know f uk all about history and quality . Unsubscribing

[@patrickchilds2987]

To be fair Trevor Woodman was a fantastic player and is a decent shout . I would go with Tony Woodcock

[@knowmean]

@@patrickchilds2987 any of them win a web Ellis ?

[@meeshnozigqwaba8972]

@@knowmean all of them did bud, os & kitshoff won 2

[@jeffwill5391]

I know he wasn't a starter but Malcolm Marx has to be right up there.

[@MrAhuapai]

Imagine if PSDT and McCaw also had Ardie Savea at 8 Just frightening!

[@joelchihota4994]

Diesel Duane ⛽️ all day everyday

[@erhardtjoubert3455]

This wasnt in any way impartial... sorry, not picking KR at 8 is insane (and im a south african btw).

[@jckriek6477]

Agreed

[@TobiasCassidy]

You need to do a full 23!

[@ivanmynhardt]

Like why are we talking about Eng 03 and not Aus 99 or SA 07. Its just weird.

[@TheCryptoSniper]

Thats how far back they needed to get a NH team.

[@lesliedickson-tetteh5197]

Lmao some of these picks are downright criminal 😭😂

[@dhirshg]

General comment, unrelated to 03, 15 and 23...Frans Steyn should be in any all-time XV for me - at least on the bench at 23 lol!!!

[@Ell-p2o]

frans steyn could have been the only player to have won 3 world cups . 2007 2019 nd 2023 if he had joined the squad

[@MiguelGomes-kg6ml]

Fourie Du Preez not even getting a mention 😂😂😂

[@nokuthulahappinessnkosi1603]

7-Sam Underhill 🙌🏽🔥🐐

[@mike18owen]

Great video, who do you have as your bench 😂

[@mattyb3780]

Steven Kitshoff, Dane Coles, Frans Malherbe, Eben Etzebeth, Brodie Retallick, Pieter Steph du Toit, Richie McCaw, Kieran Read, Aaron Smith, Dan Carter, Julian Savea, Ma'a Nonu, Jesse Kriel, Cheslin Kolbe, Ben Smith .. the closest Englishmen for me were Phil Vickery, Martin Johnson, Neil Back, Jonny Wilkinson, Jason Robinson

[@peterjones9938]

More interesting if it included the 2007 bok team too

[@TheBigJimShow]

Blame producer Rob for the list we had to choose from.

[@axxey]

I think he shouldn't have given you any names to choose from, just each coming up with picks for each position and debating them.

[@WD87482]

Next episode the bench based only on players who were on the bench in the final.

[@HibeeMcbee]

Brodie and Whitelock are light years ahead. In fact, just name the 2011-2015 AB’s.

[@luiscunha8899]

Did you guys forget the 07 boks? For sure big Vic walks it?

[@luiscunha8899]

And Habana?

[@meeshnozigqwaba8972]

the 07 team & the 03 english side are in their own conversation which is a tier below this. they are just shoving that 03 side down our throats

[@anotherstormer]

I can get on board with the picks BUT its just so hard not to go 14 Kolbe, 15 Robinson! Surprised the lads went Kriel over Conrad Smith. I mean, I rate Kriel but feel Conrad Smith was on Lukhanyo Am at his best level but across an entire decade. I get that you need a shortlist but as a die hard Bok fan its hard to leave out older Bokke players. Os. Matfield. Van der Westhuizen or Du Preez are both in with a shout vs Aaron Smith I reckon. Though the picks are still excellent. Apart from prop. Any world GOAT XV not containing Os du Randt...

[@reynhardttheron6901]

You guys had to mention Deon Fourie he played more than 70min😂 and man he played in that final!

[@dublin7]

1 Joe Moody, Dane Coles, Frans Malherbe 4 Eben Etzebeth 5 Martin Johnson 6 Richie McCaw 7 Peter Steph De Toit 8 Lawrence Dallaglio 9 Aaron Smith 10 Dan Carter 12 Ma'a Nonu 13 Jesse Kriel 11 Julian Savea'a 14 Cheslin Kolbe 15 Ben Smith

[@rileyfreeman9726]

Kriel over Conrad is just criminal on so many levels.

[@colinhugo5455]

Handre Pollard most points in world cup finals. Hes the ultimate big game player

[@etheruan]

England fan - springboks 2019 were better than springboks 2023 IMO. Not by much but so many players at their absolute peak

[@jameswyatt4443]

That is absolutely not true. I’m South African. The Springboks system was nowhere near as well polished. 23, were a far better coached side, because Rassie had a lot more time to prepare for 23. The 19 team were predictable and one dimensional, because Rassie came in, in 2018, they resorted to a very simple and effective system which was classic South African rugby. 23 brought a lot more complex rugby patterns and tactics which had been integrated into the system over years.

[@etheruan]

@@jameswyatt4443 yeah that's a good take, like I said I think it's close. I just think the '23 team were much better than anyone else in that tournament so have extra level of greatness. Whereas the 2023 team are probably the team in terms of navigating knockout rugby, but it was such a close tournament that if you replayed it again there could easily be 3 or 4 different winners. I think you'd also find more of the '19 players in this team if they'd gone with them

[@jameswyatt4443]

@@etheruan I agree that Beast, and Lukhanyo Am were better than the 23. But for me as a team the Boks were better.

[@Alias-gy3tz]

Agreed. The 2019 Springboks were better.

[@jameswyatt4443]

@@Alias-gy3tz No they weren’t.

[@alexmorton2151]

Martin Johnson and Jason Robinson are the only two English who should be in there. And they have to be in there.

[@davidpells4298]

Despite Ox Nches heroics Steven Kitshoff is still the best Loosehead in the World.

[@jameswyatt4443]

Not a chance. You know he’s came back from injury like 6 weeks ago.

[@jacquesventer3170]

Nod, "How the fuck is he playing super rugby" LMAO

[@nicholaslead6016]

That was brilliant

[@lukeozade9957]

This isn't even an all time list. My personal one. 1) os durandt 2) sean fitzpatrick 3) adam Jones (only welshman) 4)eben Etzebeth (most capped springbok best overall lock) 5)Victor Matfield (greatest lineout lock ever) 6) Jerome Kaino 7)Richie McCaw (the GOAT of rugby and this is coming from a Saffa) 8)Kieran Reed (was Considering Duane just think kieran as captain did more for NZ) To the backs 9) Fourie Du preez if there was ever a more complete accurate and rounded scrumhalf. I've never seen them. 10) Dan Carter need i elaborate 11) Bryan Habanna (yes lomu was a monster and legend but as a 11 and pure winger Bryan would literally run circles around lomu in their respective primes). 12) Ma'a Nonu 13) Brian O'Driscoll (only Irishman) 14) David Campese simply undeniable at 14 also the only Aussie in my Opinion 15) Percy Montgomery (toughest choice really hard between the rolce Royce of fullbacks André Joubert but I'll Go with percy, his Boot won the boks that 2007 world cup not missing 1 kick also the boks record points scorer). In total: 6 Springboks 6 All Blacks 1 Wallaby 1 Welshman 1 Irishman What you think. I think it's pretty fair and balanced with the 2 heavyweights of tugby history having an equal lions share and a few once in a lifetime players from other nations.

[@ShiNooBi1986]

I'd swap in PSTD at 6 and Cullen at 15, Lomu 11. Ab fan

[@lukeozade9957]

@@ShiNooBi1986 fairs with the PSDT shout but his main position is 7 and despite how goated pieter is. He ain't no Mccaw. Cullen was class. But he didn't win his country a world cup so that's why i didn't pick him. Lomu and Habana are probably the biggest debate here because despite being without a doubt the top 2, 11's to grace the game so far (if cheslin keeps playing the way he does he could stake a claim) they are also polar opposites with lomu being the big ball carrying but still surprisingly fast winger whereas Bryan was the most electrifying winger I've layed eyes on. I just prefer the Habana type to the lomu type also bryan has the record for tries in a world cup and has actually won one. That said as a Honourable mention. One wing from the AB that just gave me chills and stress was Joe Rokococo. That man just cause havoc in bok games and was so clinical.

[@lukeozade9957]

@@ShiNooBi1986 but otherwise glad we agree on 12 of the 15

[@jckriek6477]

How is Laurence picked over two double World cup winners 😮

[@dhirshg]

Should have included Aus 99 and Boks 07!!!

[@Abieso-h7q]

No Kieran Reed who transformed he's position and was part of the greatest winning team of all time!!!

[@TheCryptoSniper]

Where I differ: 1. OX 2. Marx/Coles 4. Eben 5. Retallick [Jonno, didn't have the work rate of either] 8. Read, Duane Vermeulen, Lols 3rd choice.. 12. DDA, Nonu, NH dude

[@TheCryptoSniper]

+ pollard has achieved so much quietly he is under respected.. If he 3-peats with a drop goal winner in 2027 he is top of the tree.

[@BlazeEigs]

Love the bants but need to know the criteria for the choices cos there are monsters left out

[@calvatron88]

These guys are clueless

[@Kid_Senekal]

Ooofff..some shockers, real bolters in there 🤣

[@peterhunter6040]

My best XV of the 21st century based purely on ability and impact 1. Ox Nche 2. Malcolm Marx 3. Andrew Sheridan 4. Etzebeth 5. Maro Itoje 6. PSDT 7. David Pocock 8. George Smith 9. Antoine DuPont 10. Dan Carter 11. Cheslin Kolbe 12. Ma nonu 13 Brian O’Driscoll 14. Shane Williams 15. Ben Smith

[@achumangelanga6299]

Almost a perfect list but Du Preez over Du Pont. Du Pont is still writing his career but both Smith and Du Preez are better for now. You need to have Whitelock or Retalick in there

[@peterhunter6040]

@@achumangelanga6299 mate, I’m basing this purely on ability, not longevity or achievements. Maro Itoje is the best lock I’ve ever seen play, DuPont is the best player I’ve ever seen play.

[@rileyfreeman9726]

Pure ability?? Pocock shouldnt be anywhere near. He quite literally was only a jackal threat. Offered no ball carrying, okay ruck hitter, he was a good tackler at best but all he did was just swoop over the ball and just stand around for the rest of the match. Give that to McCaw

[@douglasdejager8450]

Fourie du Preez at 9

[@whitebear5405]

How is Beauden Barrett not in the conversation for the 10 jersey?

[@katatonickiwi8310]

Because he didnt win a World Cup at 10 .... he was a sub in 2015 .... for Bender iirc ....

[@ivanmynhardt]

This use to be one of my favourite rugby shows but damn way to many England players in this squad.

[@jameswyatt4443]

English bias. 3 English forwards, 3 South African and 2 NZ. Duane and Read are the best 8s ever, but you pick Lawrence Dallaglio. Martin Johnson is a myth, he couldn’t touch Eben or the Kiwis. When we talk about loose head props, anyone other than Saffa or Kiwi is an insult to even bring up. Not one Englishman gets anywhere near that 15. I’d take almost every South African from the 2007-09 team, and the 2010 All Blacks, and 2019 Springboks over that English 03 team. 99 Australia were better, and 95 South Africa and New were too. 2003 saw maybe the worst NZ and Springbok teams ever, England don’t win it in any other year. Overrated trash.

[@desttu9531]

@@jameswyatt4443 PREACH sir, PREACH

[@stevieg8356]

Richard Hill was a quality player for England but didn’t have the hype as some of his team mates. Although would be hard to place him in this team over McCaw and PSDT. Some of the Aussies have been overlooked.

[@lexbryant23]

It’s subjective you utter clown.

[@Thudsrayz]

Duane Vermulean! Hang your heads in shame. Conrad Smith was so underrated. Rwc11, no teams could go wide cos his defence was causing turnovers. French in the final would get minimal metres up the middle so take it wide, Smith would tackle whoever it was behind the gain line, and nz would win the breakdown. It was constant. By rwc15, nz had become such an attacking force, Nonu got more attention, and rightly so, but Smith was NZs most important player of rwc11 imo, and was always the rock of the backline while he was there. Anyway, fun game. Do one for rwc87, 95, and 99 next. Yes I'm old enough for opinions on them

[@mattm7426]

Ox and Os top 2 of all time

[@jarrodjosephpage3803]

Boks replacement 1 and 2 - ox and marx

[@henk_iii]

1. Ox 2. Taylor 3. Malherbe 4. Etzebeth 5. Retalic 6. Kaino 7. PSTD 8. Vermeulen 9. Smith 10. Carter 11. Savea 12. Nonu 13. Kriel 14. Kolbe 15. Willemse

[@ThandoNdoku-hk1ew]

Yes

[@desttu9531]

@henk_iii good list, I would put Mcaw and PSDT though since Kaino and PSDT are both blindside flankers..

[@tiekumark]

@@henk_iii agree with this. But I’d have McCaw at 7 and PSDT at 6 with Bin Smuth (Ben Smith) at 15. Differnce maker

[@louisfourie800]

Not oncluding mccaw is mad. Also willemse is just always injured. He is good on his day but unreliable

[@ShiNooBi1986]

Read won a world player of the year

[@louisfourie800]

Wish they did a bench aswell. That would've basically been only SA

[@matthewashman1406]

Sonny bill ,beauden Barrett

[@louisfourie800]

@@matthewashman1406 Its hard to compare a 5-3 bench with a 7-1 bench. So you need to decide on that first. If we doing a 6-2 I agree. 7-1, for me sonny bill is the better player, but beauden can probably cover more positions and we'll have kwagga on the bench who can play back 3 and possibly scrummy. Its a hard one, but I agree

[@superfragilicious]

Thor on 8 all day long.

[@1stpush]

Does Ox count as he wasn’t a starter?

[@mvubu6823]

My only squabbles on the list #8 REID

[@Cereal_Killa_za]

Beast didnt play the 23 WC But definitely would have picked Reid

[@mvubu6823]

​​@@Cereal_Killa_za I'm being dim.. had 2019 in my head. Edited it

[@mrfearfactory94]

All time ever: 1. Os Du Randt 2. Fitzpatrick 3. Papremborde 4. Frik Du Preez 5. Meads 6. Michael Jones 7. MCcaw 8. Vermeulen 9. Edwards 10. Porta 11. Julian Savea (yes I agree with Hansen that he was better than Lomu). Horan 13. Mike Gibson 14. Habanna 15. JPR. Special mentions to Matfield, Jean-Pierre Rives, Carter, Buck & Zinzan, Sella, Gerber. From the three world cup teams that they are talking about: 1. Os 2. Marx 3. Malherbe 4. Johnson 5. Matfield 6. PSDT 7. McCaw 8. Vermeulen 9. Du Preez 10. Carter 11. Habanna 12. Nonu 13. Smith 14. Kolbe 15. Robinson

[@katatonickiwi8310]

"Teams that they are talking about" doesn't include 2007 Boks so you will need to lose 4 of those Bok players ....

[@mrfearfactory94]

@@katatonickiwi8310 replace Os with Kitshoff, Matfield with Retallick, Du Preez with Smith, Habanna with Savea

[@user-rv4go7ry3v]

If Jonno is captain then: Richard Hill to replace Richie McCaw at 7. Of course no one can agree with this but you are all wrong.

[@jameswyatt4443]

It should be 11 and 15 ABs, and 19 and 23 Boks. The likes of Beast, Lukhanyo Am, Israel Dagg should be in this team.

[@Alias-gy3tz]

If we're going back all the way to 2003, I want the Boks of 2007 included as well.

[@jameswyatt4443]

@@Alias-gy3tz I agree, they’re better than 03 England. But I’m just saying it’s kind of dumb for someone like Beast to not be included for example.

[@robsparrow]

Marx way better than Cole. Who was a dirty player that did not carry rugby values. George Smith best #8 ever.

[@desttu9531]

@@robsparrow George Smith was an openside flanker😅

[@katatonickiwi8310]

Um ... no. Coles at his peak which was around 2014-2016 was best in the world. Sure he could stir the opposition up, but the guy did the hookers job while passing and running like a back. He was a modern Sean Fitzpatrick. I do love Marx though, no denying his talent. ... and yeah, George Smith was an openside. Robbie Deans moved him to 8 so he could pick Pocock iirc

[@RobertAlexanderAckerman]

Where is the Bench?

[@bradleytichauer8515]

Haha! You guys must be drunk! Wanting to leave Kolbe out 😂😂

[@Allyphant2909]

1- Woodman 2- Coles 3- Vickery 4- Johnson 5- Retallick 6- PSDT 7- McCaw 8- Read 9- Smith 10- Carter 11- Robinson 12- Greenwood 13- C. Smith 14- Kolbe 15- B. Smith

[@meeshnozigqwaba8972]

5 englishmen & 2 saffas? yet the boks went back to back? geez the bias is written on the wall

[@MAG1323-b1z]

I don't like it when these types of "best xv" are chosen by ONLY european players or pundits. No disrespect to your choices, but there is an inherent disregard for South African players in these conversations. This is suppose to be a RWC Dream Team right? The Springboks and New Zealand are the only two teams to win back to back WC's and yet you guys still include your English players before players who have won 2 WC's? It's a well know fact that most of world rugby does not like South Africa's "style of play", hence in conversations like this a lot of their players just get snubbed. I'm sorry but these kind of "exercises" for entertainment is rather misleading. Some of those player you guys mentioned wouldn't even make a franchise team in SA. You mean to tell me a player like Ox Nche who has DOMINATED since winning in 2019 and then again in the 2023 WC that he doesn't make a WC Dream Team? Come on guys.

[@knowmean]

After 60 seconds of debating your first and 2nd player highlights how clueless you all are in the worlds best players . Unsubscribing. Os du rant , was a 1995 and 2007 RWC champion.

[@jamesplumb4517]

Richard Hill has to play 6...

[@murraysmith595]

As a Kiwi. Ox at 1. Without his scrummaging South Africa most likely dont even make the final..

[@stevebuchmann9868]

Why are England 03 in this conversation?! They were the best for about 2 years, but you could say the same about SA 07 or one of the WC winning Aus squads…

[@patrickchilds2987]

Why are they not ? They are not picking teams but players .

[@molotosefara9934]

No consideration for Bryan Habana?

[@Cereal_Killa_za]

Didnt realise he played the 23 WC. Its only the 03 eng 15 AB and 23 Boks teams

[@molotosefara9934]

​@@Cereal_Killa_za I missed that point....my bad.

[@grantcombrink9595]

To me this refers to the perinial question who was the best player in any given Sport. Especially difficult to agree upon in a team sport, and then compariing players from different erras. Rules, equipment, tactics , cards etc has chanched the game and the type of player to the past England won in 2003- many moons back. To be fair to the players you should not compare them now to the modern day player. Unles ,like this podcast, it is done for a bit of banter. . SO How many soccer player goats from England 1966 soccer team compared to France 2018, and Argentina 2022 lol.

[@SolosoloAfaluko]

Trevor Woodman?!?!?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂...

[@PowerHouse1987]

Comment section naming players that didn't start.

[@Luka_WiFi]

N15 Ben Smith

[@aadilsr]

Matfield ?

[@markwinter7511]

Is there a Dan Wilkinson?

[@peterwomersley]

Did Cristian Cullen never win a world cup By far the best full back

[@jameswyatt4443]

Barrett and Dagg are better. Cullen is living off of easy years in rugby. It’s easy to score when everyone is worried about Jonah.

[@katatonickiwi8310]

No he missed 95 by a year, got picked out of position in 99 and not selected 03. John Hart was an idiot. He had the ABs BEST ever back 3 in Lomu Goldie and Cully and he decided to play musical chairs in 99, playing Cully on the right wing, and trying to make him an outside centre during the tournament. Then in the 03 RWC, Mitchell decided that Cully, who was NZs best FB in 03 Super rugby, wasn't good enough, not even as back up when one of the ABs were injured. They selected a player that went on to have a 1 test career.