Is Pokemon Sword as bad as I imagined?

[@TheSaltFactory]

As is tradition with Pokemon games, I made a major error almost immediately. In every Pokemon game, your Pokemon learn moves mid battle. For some reason, Ember being learned in middle of the first battle I had in the game just blew out my remaining brain cells to a point where I forgot about something that's been in the games since the first one. Hell yeah. Also I'm American, I just live in Germany because of my wife lol

[@SpankinDaBagel]

All good dude. We all space out sometimes.

[@heyboxgaming]

I... Didn't know this. I was as blown away as you hahah

[@Killerpoison96]

Man, with the sheer chaos of the universe I'm just glad we still got a video.

[@Burnape]

Was going to comment this lol

[@malcolmalexander5484]

@@SpankinDaBagel 1p1sss!1

[@thenostalgictexan7826]

Fun fact: I lost to Hop on purpose for the first battle. you literally do have to growl 40 times in a row. that's how weighted it is for you to win. kinda ridiculous.

[@Ashelybee]

Hop is so annoying you can't even care about him when he becomes sad about you constantly beating him is almost like they are trying to force you to think "yeah hop is my best friend"

[@ferr247]

and it just restart it or it gives you a alternative ending?

[@thenostalgictexan7826]

@@ferr247 just some different dialogue after the battle.

[@jayjaygolden5123]

yeah hop id a joke until his fucking goat uses defense curl 5 times in a row and it takes forever to ko. marnie on thr other hand..swept the floor wirh me on multiple occassions

[@thealmightypuht.a.p.]

Yea. Really makes me appreciate older Pokémon games. I was a dumb kid when I beat those games and they are infinitely harder than modern Pokémon games. Wonder why GameFreak decided to turn their games into walking simulators that hold your hand anyways. 🤣

[@codymccormick7317]

"The speed of two snails pushing three snails" will always be my favorite Saltism

[@ghostoflazlo]

Im w you on that one!

[@MikaelMarius]

That was clever indeed.

[@Meromorphic]

Adding salt to that situation will make things... messy

[@codymccormick7317]

@@Meromorphic oh no...

[@fyrentenimar]

Which video was it first in? I know I heard it in another (either skyrim or Kotor 2).

[@Vmar98]

My biggest problem with Pokemon Sword and Shield was the scale. Everything is made to look and feel gigantic. The sprawling hills, the wild area, the stadiums, you can even set up camp while traveling. But since it's still a 3-5 minute walk to the next town so everything feels close by, and the game uses real-time(or just event-based time) so camping doesn't feel like camping and more like having multiple short picnics in your backyard on the same day. The wild area doesn't even feel like an actual wild area because it's clear where you can and cannot go, and the massive city walls are always visible. It's more like a big park. It feels like they wanted to make a grand world without the effort of actually making it big

[@MrSpartan993]

“It feels like they wanted to make a grand world without the effort of actually making it big.” There’s your answer.

[@akl2k7]

Oh, and there are random parts of towns in the background that you can't even visit, even though there are houses there. It makes me want to see an actual open-world Pokemon game that had some effort put into it. I guess the best we'll have to hope for is for a fangame like that.

[@ForrestFox626]

Yeah, because it isn't like these guys first big games

[@maxspecs]

The DLC fixes this pretty well, they’re nothing but wild areas and they’re far larger and more varied.

[@killax5628]

@Hkg 1 nah not rlly not all open world games are good first try and a lot them r very empty

[@renownedbandanawearer1345]

38:20 Honestly Opal’s questions being obscure and unfair fits really well with the fairy typing of the gym. Fairies are famously enigmatic and vain.

[@henryhere]

Ok but that doesn't make it fun though

[@renownedbandanawearer1345]

@@henryhere It makes it funny for me to watch someone else deal with

[@Matty002]

as part of the majority that doesnt know anything about the temperament of fairies, this wouldve been cool if they had made it apparent. as @@henryhere says, its not fun otherwise. going through a random topics trivia test in the middle of a game known for turn based combat kills any fun you mightve been having. this also underscores the low quality of the game. they couldve tied in the test to fairies, but they didnt even bother

[@Hypnotichypno]

@@henryhereyes it does

[@AmirPrinceling]

Yeah it suits her character perfectly, rather than it being made ridiculously easy it actually rewards you for paying attention and talking to the NPCs in the gym. But people just nitpicking this game to death.

[@drunkborb5463]

To be fair, an ancient mural is EXACTLY the kind of thing you could find in a Denny's. Place is surreal

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Traveler's Log: We journeyed into the depths of the local Denny's this afternoon to obtain the lost tablet of Amon-Ra. We encountered an undead being that constantly complained about not being entombed in "the good one", whatever that means. The basement contained a collapsing pathway that has lead to, surprisingly, a second Denny's. We have made camp in the subterranean parking lot, and plan to investigate tomorrow. It's odd. People come and go to this mysterious place, yet all pretend as though they can't see us. They clearly do, as all seem to suddenly become fascinated by nearby scenery or the contents of their pocket as they near us. Perhaps the answers lie in our adventures tomorrow.

[@Crunkles1119]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 I wish I could like this comment more than once

[@DekkarJr]

Ancient and encursted in syrup :D

[@rin77823]

Little Known Fact: Leon is, in fact, the unbeatable champion of the galar and does, in deed, have a charizard.

[@lantrodijosh6224]

Charizard is a pathetic, weak Pokemon without Mega Forms. I might have taken Leon more seriously if he had an Infernape or Blaziken.

[@rin77823]

@@lantrodijosh6224 You don't understand, it doesn't matter what pokemon Leon uses because he is the unbeatable champion who uses a charizard

[@bearandthebull2372]

@@rin77823 Leon has a charizard and is unbeatable?

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

@@lantrodijosh6224 imagine thinking an amazing weather sweeper is bad. Lol

[@K_hessel]

Thank you, John Clarity, for the clarity. You are the unsung hero of TSF comments section. ❤️

[@awkwardGardener]

The thing I think SwSh did best for sure was making the Gym Challenge feel like a huge event like it's always been said to be. Participating in the tounament at the end of the game reminded me of the good ol days of watching the first Pokemon League in the anime, with crowds gathered from around the nation to watch how it play out. It really felt fucking great.

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Bede’s hair is emitting a pheromone so powerful it feels like I’m taking meth

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Bede bede bede

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Is bede *ever* going to do anything about that delicious looking cake hair because it’s making me hungry

[@kamen6009]

@@sarah.lovelace.animated So you are a cute girl and a bede fangirl

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

@@kamen6009 I’m just hungry

[@kingofthegrill]

52:30 that's another reason the second Pokemon Ranger game, Shadows of Almia, is one of my favorites in the entire series. You start out as a kid in ranger school, you need to prove yourself to graduate, then you become a small-town ranger, then need to prove yourself to work up the ranks and become a top ranger, where you actually get involved in saving the region from the big bad and their team. It's a really smooth progression.

[@idyllwilde281]

it’s an amazing game!!

[@kingofthegrill]

@@idyllwilde281 It really is, top 5 game.

[@lenelene3488]

One of the best Pokemon games to this day

[@PaintedHoundie]

1:04:34 Leon's response is honestly very appropriate. an energy crisis in a world that created something called infinity energy is a terrible premise, i think this world's leading scientists will eventually find a way to solve such an issue, especially with a time window of a thousand years. Rose is tripping, and his solution is insane.

[@fyrentenimar]

Not just that, but Leon even told him he'd help him... after the championship match. Rose was so fucking impatient to solve this crisis that he couldn't even wait one extra day. Like, what, were the stars in a certain alignment that day that made it so they absolutely had to act that very day or they'd miss the opportunity?

[@johannesseyfried7933]

@@fyrentenimar Probably would have made for a better Explanation. "I have to release this extremely dangerous Pokémon from its Prison *now* . We can't wait any longer. If it wakes up while the Stars are aligned, it will be so powerful that not even the Champion will be able to stop it!"

[@Bogglemanify]

@@johannesseyfried7933 I almost wish that pokemon would stop pretending to write a story and literally have a character go "because of pokemon bs, you need to fight this game's legendary."

[@Nosretep]

Also Regieleki exsists too.

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

@@johannesseyfried7933 alternatively, it could be something along the lines of "people always say they'll do it tomorrow, but when will tomorrow come?"

[@EmperorPretzel]

This game really showed the need for voice actors when you have a literal singer as a boss battle and crowds awkwardly cheering. Like just get the voice actors from the show its kinda crazy to think in a game with really not a lot of dialogue that they couldn't get voice actors. It made sense in the Gameboy era when voices really couldn't be played on their sound cards but now it is just kinda insulting and gives dialogue this weird uncanny valley feeling to me.

[@MrSpartan993]

Yeah but that would require Gamefreak to actually UPDATE the series to a standard that surpasses what was possible in the 90’s.

[@Trisoulwolf]

There was a singer that had a voice: Roxie from Pokemon White 2/ Black 2. So they actively made it worse.

[@matthewhall1467]

A reminder that gamefreak did not give a fuck about SW and SH. Apathy in terms of design, advancement and even graphical standards scream “we’re just pushing this shit out right now”

[@dc_dachi]

I definitely agree that it's super jarring to see a modern 3D RPG without voice acting. I also think it's just a good idea in terms of accessibility. Pokemon games are primarily aimed at children, and with how much dialogue there is in Pokemon relative to other kids games, having voices to read alongside can be super helpful.

[@EmperorPretzel]

@@dc_dachi That's a good point I bet it would be good for kids

[@pickyphysicsstudent201]

I like to imagine that Salt's wife is called Pepper.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Will they name their son Cinnamon?

[@DelightFools]

@@dalekrenegade2596 their son and daughter are Cumin and Paprika

[@MisterJackTheAttack]

She is Cake, apparently.

[@edentitycrisis]

Awh love ‘Thena in your profile

[@PointNemoProduction]

Any blues clues fans here?

[@etourdie]

Fun fact: when developing X and Y, they went and made models of a higher poly count than the 3DS could handle so that they would never need to go through the effort of creating new models for every old Pokemon. And then they said they couldn't include every Pokemon because they remodeled them.

[@lordmonarch2995]

Basically because the mons couldn’t fit which is BS because the DLC proved otherwise. I’m just taken aback and what down syndrome idiots the fans are. I will never forget the people thanking GF for this piece of shit on Twitter!

[@haydenboggs3271]

Funnily enough, they just said "f*ck it" and actually made updated models and textures for a lot of Pokémon in Scarlet and Violet, I guess they learned that the old models didn't go over so well with fans

[@etourdie]

@@haydenboggs3271 People were fine with the old models, what they weren't fine with was the fact that Game Freak said they were going to leave Pokemon out of sw/sh because of the effort it'd take to re-model and re-animate them all, then they only used the old models while reusing the animations

[@haydenboggs3271]

@@etourdie Oh yeah, forgot about that

[@Slothydactyl]

So I've actually tested losing to Hop in the first fight. And it is DAMN hard. The first few attempts felt so pointless that I just kicked his ass anyway. I think he's literally programmed to lose. The first few attempts, I ran out of PP while he could just sit there and spam growl or other status moves until I eventually kill him. HOWEVER, I did have an attempt where I did manage to lose due to him finally using an actual attack.

[@yesno8273]

was there some special dialogue when you lost or did gamefreak never expect someone to lose so its the same dialogue everytime?

[@Slothydactyl]

@@yesno8273 Not that I can remember. I'll have to try it again and see, but I'm pretty sure the game just continues on as normal

[@deathcon6261]

Fun Fact: Blue is also programmed to use all his status moves of he can kill the player. This isn't new.

[@Slothydactyl]

@@deathcon6261 Does it need to be new? I just felt like sharing.

[@Purpose_Porpoise]

@@yesno8273 There is. Lose to him twice, he says he's "undefeated" in the second battle and I think he says "sorry mate" in the first battle. Beat him first battle and lose second battle he says something about "getting his revenge". Lose first battle and win second battle he says something about you getting payback for the first battle. And winning twice is shown in the video. I think those and the first Peony fight are the only three story battles that you're allowed to lose without getting sent to the last pokecenter. Could be wrong, though. I haven't tested this in months. Edit: You can lose to the breeder in the wild area without being sent to the Pokecenter as well just remembered.

[@xzxz85]

I find it funny that towns with like 10 houses have a 30.000 capacity stadium

[@KillZallTheBeast]

People now live in pokeballs and are only allowed out to cheer in the stadiums

[@EatWave]

@@KillZallTheBeast The concept of Pokeballs does allow one to justify towns not appearing to scale by just saying that space compression allows more people to occupy less terrain whether that is what GameFreak intended or not.

[@arcanegentleman-3429]

@@EatWave Wosh

[@TheReZisTLust]

I don't, people travel

[@onetwothreefour3957]

it's the hungarian style the smaller the town and the more important politicians live in it, the larger a stadium it gets

[@TheKingofbrooklin]

My problem with the game was that the adventure aspects really fell flat. The routes had barely anything to explore. (Like finding a cave which is not a path to your next city. Just to find rare items and pokemon). Also I miss hidden legendary's which are not linked to the story and needed exploration to find. The game was way too easy. As you said gaining xp was laughable easy. My problem with the story is that it takes you too often at the hand. At nearly every town and at many routes there was a character from the story and a cutscene starts. It all felt like a playable anime for children. All I want is the feeling of being on my own adventure.

[@MrSpartan993]

Tough shit as long as people keep paying Gamefreak for this trash and the sales were, of course, phenomenal as is the case with basically every Pokémon game.

[@theheebs100]

it's literally impossible to not be over leveled unless you purposely change out your pokemon when they get too high in level. I avoided wild battles and only didn't go out of my way to do all the trainer battles and I was still over leveled

[@rocketeer9183]

Speaking of the cutscenes every town: pokemon should really incorporate escorts and companions more. Gen 4 had 5 escort missions and they ptetty much never did it again. If Hop wants to follow you every damn where he should be able to accompany you sometimes, especially in a game with an emphasis on raid battles.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

The only series that made me feel like I was participating in an anime is Persona. Mind you I haven't played Sw/Sh but they would have to hire a writer first to accomplish that feeling. The characters and dialogue are too horrifically bland to be decent anime characters.

[@derply5692]

I mean it's a pokemon game just play the older ones

[@VirtuallyReality]

I enjoyed the cultural confusion with the ancient tapestry in the restaurant. Many pubs in Britain are historic sites, or have been around to witness historic events. My local pub had paintings and old newspapers about historic events all over the place.

[@Aaron-ky4sz]

The game doesn’t infer anything regarding that in the slightest tho, so Salt’s confusion is warranted tbh. I, too, was thrown off and felt like it was out-of-place. Was totally expecting the owner to pop out and explain something about it, but no. Meanwhile Sun & Moon practically bathe you in Alolan/Hawaiian culture

[@VirtuallyReality]

@@Aaron-ky4sz in the UK, the pub landlord would be too busy picking up teeth to explain local legends to you. I was more pointing out that's it's unremarkable to find a local relic hung above the bar of a local pub, or some plaque commemorating some battlefield on which the pub now stands.

[@Aaron-ky4sz]

@@VirtuallyReality Lol I love that, fair enough. I just wish Sw/Sh gave a bit more context for things like that, especially after Alola. It’s clearly a detail that went over a lot of non-Brits’ heads. Meanwhile the only British culture I’m picking up on is the slang the characters use (and curry)

[@Sammy_The_Umbreon]

​@@Aaron-ky4sz be happy you pick up on the slang. Those people that dont play in english basically have no indicator its based on britain until they google it.

[@williamrisbridger60]

Even so, you’re not going to walk into a Yates and find the Bayeux Tapestry sitting on the wall next to the toilets. The game implies that this particular tapestry is as significant in their world.

[@spriddlez]

I happened to be wearing mostly pink when Opal talked to me... she still told me I didn't wear enough pink =/

[@squirtleislife1312]

There's never enough pink

[@madladmudkip9236]

I has always wondered what happened if you tried that... why am I not surprised there was nothing to it

[@Envy_the_Darksider]

Me: *Pink eyes, pink hair, pink clothes* Opal: NOT PINK ENOUGH! Bede: *Is wearing a purple coat* Opal: PINK ENOUGH!

[@AniGaAG]

Oh come on! Her recognizing that would've taken effort, you silly goose. ... I mean, not that much effort... a little bit of effort... or so.

[@oalbuquerque2899]

:(

[@BrendanGeormer]

"In the Galar region, Pokemon get big" unless you're in a normal battle, in which case they're all the same size.

[@TheWeirdDinosaur]

Cries in wailord

[@SleepyDonnnn]

Cries in eternatus

[@krimorant]

Cries in why doesn't gamefreak properly scale their pokemon

[@vitodtin9304]

damn, where the burn heal when ya need it?

[@steel5897]

@@krimorant They did in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, the game everyone thought was a joke and made as filler until the "real games". That game also still looks better than Sword and Shield graphically.

[@MahDryBread]

1:13:30 Okay, so I still haven't beaten Shield yet so I've never seen the ending, but oh my god, when those two showed up I had a laughing fit

[@ahaak3382]

OMG YOU'RE BIG LEAGUE MDB!!

[@luisalpjax3929]

one pokemon game i couldnt finish, too horrible

[@shadedergu9921]

With how short that game is; it really must've broken your tolerance

[@rayflyers]

Let me know which fossil Pokemon you get in the Crown Tundra

[@caseyleenb]

i feel like every time i see those two, i just get a migraine. easily the worst postgame, imo.

[@bradigan]

The problem I have with the whole "the adults will handle it" thing is that it is a lazy way to push the story forward without making you a part of it. It's just another check in another box. Why should I be invested in this thing that I'm told I don't need to be invested in? They literally say it's not my problem. I don't even get to see it happen

[@cleverusername2578]

Yeah I found it interesting to hear the perspective that it’s ‘the adults taking responsibility’ because I’d previously watched another review of the game making fun of the stagnant, actionless ‘plot’ caused by this dynamic.

[@bradigan]

@@cleverusername2578 I'm glad you reminded me of this comment, because now that the new games have been released with such glaring performance issues, I'm thinking the devs had to forgo some part of the plot that they had planned to make because they were rushed and didn't have time to conclude it. It seems more likely to me that the adults handling it was a big ugly bandaid to bridge the gap between actually finished parts of the game than it being planned this way.

[@EtterWolf15]

I'm in the same boat. I found it an incredibly bold choice for Salt to say that games primarily aimed at children who want to go on adventures with their animal friends break his immersion when they have the child characters in this childrens' fantasy go on adventures without adults stopping them. Like, you're already playing as child exploring an entire region inhabited by powerful wild monsters with no adult supervision, encouraged by multiple adults to do so, but children stopping evil plots without being told no by an adult is where he draws the line? And i completely agree that Sword and Shield's story suffers from teasing exciting story elements and then preventing the character from taking part in anything exciting until the very end. Not only is it a jarring scenario by actively teasing excitement and then not delivering by telling you "don"t worry about it," it actively plays against the idea that your character is supposed to be the "new hero" of Galar by preventing you from doing anything worthy of the title and instead pushing you to focus on the gym challenge for personal glory.

[@Lo0serx3]

​@@EtterWolf15 it's honestly especially annoying they did this in Gen 8, when every player trainer is 15-16 since gen 5

[@PyroOfZen]

"I like that they don't force a kid to save the world. Any interaction with the plot from here on out will be my own choice." Oleana: "Salt, go save the world!"

[@theplaybunnyarcade3375]

I'm also pretty sure in the last games for the most part you're literally stalking people that tell you directly not to get involved in adult business

[@lillith7257]

Also the game: over here Over there Hey don't come here Don't go there If you come over here imma fight ya 5 times Oh go here but you can't return for the entire main story Etc etc etc

[@FeiFongWang]

Yeah, Salt was uncharacteristically forgiving on this review. I'm thinking that Pokemon games in general have just been SO low quality and SO lazy that literally any positive point in this game pleased him immensely.

[@rocketeer9183]

@@FeiFongWang thats the charm of pokemon, they do the bare mininum so often any positives that actually can be pointed out impress you.

[@KenanVonKaiser]

Well Oleana Did That Cause No One Else Was Around Leon Was With Eternatus, Raihan Was Assisted In Evacuating The Stadium And Oleana Is Not Really Considered To Be A Pokemon Trainer More Of A Assistant!

[@BladeBloodTear]

For the bit about showing how shook Hop was with losing to Bede. He actually does drop his "starter" since Wooloo is is very first pokemon he has had long before the game started. It's why Hop already has the Wooloo for the first rival battle with him.

[@BarokaiRein]

One of the biggest problems I have with the game is how unforgivably bad some of the animations are and how dead all almost all of the pokemon's idle animations are. Seriously pokemon colosseum ''2003 game'' had way livelier animations and all of the pokemon also had full on recoil animations whenever they took damage and fainting looked really painful.

[@sun332s7]

The 2003 game looks shit too please don’t nostalgia glasses it lmao

[@budakbaongsiah]

@Riley D To be fair, the point of the Final Fantasy franchise is to constantly change while being familiar. Perhaps a more apt comparison would be Dragon Quest.

[@drumo2273]

@@sun332s7 The animations, not the graphics my guy. I never even played that game in my childhood but I do agree with him, the animations in that game are a lot better than in SS. To be fair there are *many* more pokemon, but the disparity between some of them are just too jarring to ignore.

[@lillith7257]

An easier and more apt comparison would be gen 5 Who had full battle animations for all 500+ pokemon Considering Swsh had less than that initially Even though gen 5 ends up looking funky it was on the DS and managed that much towards the end You're telling me these xy models couldn't have been built up with animations at only 400? On the Switch? Excuse me?

[@jailcatjones3250]

@Riley D I miss the GameCube Pokemon game

[@octolockg5059]

The story is literally just "It's one hero. No, two people had a sword and shield. Wait, no. They were Pokémon. Oh, right. They fought and won against a massive alien. Rose is bad." Sonia just so happens to try to figure out the mystery when you're starting your journey when most of the places that develop this "mystery" are in plain. Fucking. View.

[@shuichisaihope398]

I know this is 7 months late but 💀 yes you've put into words what I had about Sonias "mystery solving" we literally just walked around in the most populated places and ended up solving the "mysteries" she was so desperate to solve

[@frogitude3106]

@@shuichisaihope398 I replayed this game and realized how EASY it was for them to make the story good. I haven’t watched through the video all the way through so my bad if he covers it, but the whole “why was the truth hidden? There were Pokemon?” Thing always bugged me because. They never explained why the truth was hidden. So easily they could’ve made rose SLIGHRLY more compelling as a villain is if he hid it on purpose since the Pokemon were the only things to end the darkest day. He could’ve used his company to fabricate historical landmarks and hide it, but they fumbled and the truth was hidden “just because” this game does a lot of telling and not a lot of showing, they try to convince you it’s this great mystery, but it’s genuinely so confusing because oleana and roses motive is stupid and not compelling at all. It can TOTALLY be compelling but they just half assed it horribly. I enjoy this game a lot but if they spent more time actually thinking about the plot it coho he been BANGED

[@gtddark232]

It’s a Pokémon game they aren’t known for their amazing story

[@dangeroustheannoying3618]

Am not gonna lie, Sonia was the most annoying part of the story, I felt nothing when she became perfessor..

[@Loner098]

​@gtddark232 So we're just gonna ignore the gen 5 games, Sun & Moon (not the Ultra games), and Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games (especially Explorers of Sky)?!

[@TheOnesmallwhisper]

The weirdest thing to me about this game is that there are supposedly a bunch of gym challengers running around, yet a player doesn’t run into them unless they are hop, bede , or marnie or inside the gym already. Instead you fight random people again, or team yell, which would be fine, but they should have programmed some other challengers AI and maybe made them a bit stronger, since they are “endorsed”.

[@robertlupa8273]

Actually, there _is_ a unique trainer for each type (except Dark, Fairy and Psychic) that can be challenged in post-game champion tournaments (the equivalent to Elite 4 rematches). They're the same ones you see in the gym during the main story. Sadly, they never use Dynamax, but their teams are still pretty good. I remember watching a video that tried to figure out which one could be the one that lost to Hop in the main story.

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Everyone else: talks about the combat Me:* “gym leader bede is the most appetizing yet”*

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

The weirdest thing to me is that the level curve is so poorly designed. It's like they just gave up after they realized how over leveled a player that spends any amount of time poking around would be.

[@ryanhernandez1877]

Who are the "endorsed" challengers? And by who, by the way? And how are they endorsed? Do they get, like, Gigantamax stuff to use?

[@gryphon4150]

It would have been cool if the gym challengers were like the ace trainers of this game and they had tougher pokemon and better AI then the normal trainer.

[@zaidhernandez4601]

I just wish the cities had more to them...yunno some more houses, stores, special places...hell other generations did way better

[@krimorant]

cries in lumiose city

[@Purpose_Porpoise]

One of my biggest complaints with SWSH, as well... and I liked the games. The caves, the snowy areas(with the exception of the dlc. I liked the dlc maps), Glimwood Tangle/Ballonlea, and most importantly- Wyndon should have been WAY more fleshed out.

[@madladmudkip9236]

@@Purpose_Porpoise yeah Galar has some of the best looking cities in all of Pokemon... I just wish there was more to do in them

[@wastelandlegocheem]

I'm shocked how little they cared.

[@FraserSouris]

Eh, I don't really agree. The towns in SwSh are about par with past games anyway. In most traditional JRPGs, the point of towns is to be a quick break from the "active" content like routes and dungeons. Making towns bugger and more fleshed out wouldn't really increase the gameplay present like it would in something like Skyrim.

[@atraxian5881]

"great option, shitty implementation" Pretty much Sword & Shield in a nutshell.

[@HPWolfgang]

So true. Game freak need to realise the diversity of the Pokemon fanbase and rehaul those settings for players. I should be able to skip all dialogue and just do a fresh run if I want.

[@kyotheman69]

clearly feels the company is tired of making pokemon, which is understandable, what nintendo needs to do is let them make other games and try not bring out pokemon so often, even fans are starting get tried of them i personally wish they put more time in the games, they haven't evolved at all since GB days

[@OhNoTheFace]

lol gen wunners

[@LoinkLoink]

@@OhNoTheFace So, are you implying that only genwunners hate Sword and Shield? Because if so you need to seriously reevaluate the situation

[@OhNoTheFace]

@@LoinkLoink If that makes the boomers feel better

[@indy-dog2]

3:26 hop is actually named after the plant, a lot of the characters are named after plants actually. leon is named that cause dandelion, (it makes more sense for the japanese names, leon’s name is dande in japan), marnie’s japanese name is mary after rosemary, rose is.. rose, bede’s japanese name is beet after beetroot, and if you count the DLCs, honey is one half of honey mustard, mustard is the other half, peony and peonia are.. peonies. a lot of the names are kinda dumb but i think its interesting that they used plants as a theme.

[@cmdrapollo9699]

Hop: Shows up depressed Salt Factory: “I like that”

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Bede: has his hair exposed Me: *devours the white curls*

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

You should probably know that I’m just here bede-cause of bede’s delicious cake hair

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Hop’s bangs look like sunflower seeds

[@exiel2740]

Hop: I'm so happy! Salt Factory: And I took great offense to that.

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Bede: has his hair exposed My stomach: 🧁👀

[@tristanneal9552]

It's funny that you appreciated the adults taking care of stuff for us. I hated that, it felt like literally everything interesting happened off screen, like it was someone else's adventure and I was a side character. I think a better in-between would be us assisting the adults with whatever catastrophe. We're still involved, but it's not ridiculously contrived.

[@SquidSystem]

Was looking for this sort of comment. What's the point of having events like that if the player can't do them? Video games are supposed to be enjoyed by the player, not NPCs, and it seems like Leon had more of the journey than we did

[@lucidlullaby894]

I may be misremembering but in BW the npcs help you out by taking on the grunts in dragonspiral tower and make it easier for you to get to the top, the protagonist gets the most important role and the other characters look like they’re actually contributing

[@Caesar_Sandwich]

@@lucidlullaby894 ya characters like cheren would help you out a lot

[@Caesar_Sandwich]

And ya, it was pretty stupid in my eyes, since thats how we get dungeons and fun parts of the game, thats why sword and shield are empty, because the player does basically nothing and get no memorable dungeons like the sylph co building, the rocket HQ in johto, the magma and aqua hideout, the galactic buildings and mt coronet, the cold storage, dragon spiral tower, the desert resort, the flare HQ, po town, not all dungeons are great, but at least they're there, what does sword and shield have, nothing.

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

I dont really care for that one since those events are only gigantamax battle. The same thing in the post game which is bot really exciting at all since there is no really dungeons in the game whatsoever.

[@pikebasss]

I felt really bad for Hop most of the game. He’s like having a crisis and is constantly doing everything he can to get better and then I reck him every time usually with 1 or 2 Pokémon.

[@Edgar_A_Bro]

It dont help that we stuff our pokemon with XP candy til they OD. It was unbalanced as hell but it made filling the DeX pleasant.

[@RainmakerXBooty]

Every trainer you fight is like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYitY3RneZ5oZ68 you just smack them around, no challenge. The biggest detriment to this series is the constant hand holding.. we needed a harder difficulty 10 years ago (and we got it for 5 seconds in black and white but only post game and only one of the versions had it)

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Hop’s bangs look like sunflower seeds

[@Aaronn-je8cx]

@@RainmakerXBooty Ultra Sun and Moon are probably the last decently hard Pokémon game we’ll get.

[@jarbies004]

Yeah I didnt feel like I had ab adventure with a rival to challenge me with, I felt like I was crushing a kids dreams

[@ARDIZsq]

Something worth noting: They DIDN'T remake the Pokemon models for this game, they only updated the textures. They've been using the same models since XY, but the 3DS textures were low quality, so they update those, which probably only took a few minutes each considering a lot of Pokemon have relatively simple textures to begin with. This is why when playing the 3DS games on an emulator like Citra you see the high quality models with low quality pixelated textures. The only new models are the Gen 8 Pokemon, including the Gigantimax forms.

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

I’m very hungry. If bede heard my stomach?

[@HopelessXzavier]

late response but no. Theres a reason why you dont see many IP's with that many animations, voice acting, and individual characters with unique designs. People want pokemon to literally be the most expensive RPG made. Baldurs Gate by larian studio has less unique models -because- implementing 300+ unqiue models with any amount of aesthetic consistancy is not gonna take a studio "a few minutes." You're asking for actual months to a year for that alone. I hate how pokemon fanboys live in a world where skyrim hasnt been republished fucking 7 times because of the amount of work it takes to release a new IP with all these demands met. Unless you're actually clamorig for Sun and Moon 2 and sun and moon 3 and sun and moon 4, where they could ACTUALLY flip assets with no work. It's like, how do you play any amount of sword and sheild and go "Hmm, this should've been a cheesy shitty asset flip, it would've been better." or "An open sourced project has made decent progress in updating ALREADY MADE IP, it must be the same as making a new game."

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Bede gets cloned: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3PKoJ6rmtFpsMU

[@ARDIZsq]

@@HopelessXzavier I never said SW/SH should have been an asset flip, the most expensive RPG ever made, or that making 300+ models took "a few minutes." What I said was that they didn't recreate all of the Pokemon models from Gen 1-7, they simply updated the textures, which is what I said would have "only taken a few minutes each." Pokemon textures are relatively simple, mostly large blocks of color with some small details consisting of mostly a few lines, and then the eyes. They could either upscale the textures or just redraw over important parts like the eyes. Or, you know, since they reused the models, maybe they made high quality textures back during the 3DS games and just used compressed lower quality versions on those games to save on space, since it'd be ridiculous to use HD textures on the 3DS. Again, this is why on emulators people had higher quality models with low quality textures. Other than that though, they have reused animations a lot. Most attacks consist of a simple jump and a PNG, and Hop reuses animations from Hau. It's not like Pokemon fans can't have better standards. They're the highest grossing franchise with over a hundred BILLION dollars to their name. People weren't complaining about them reusing models, it was them reusing models while cutting out half of the Pokemon with the excuse of "we REMADE all of the models." There are other RPGs that can add a bunch of unique characters, voice acting, AND unique animations, yet Pokemon can't for some reason. For instance, Xenoblade 2. There are TONS of Blades in that game, all with unique designs, personalities, animations, and fully voiced cutscenes. The difference between Xenoblade 2 and Pokemon? Among many other things, Xenoblade 2 actually took their time to make a good quality game and story. Pokemon churns out games every year or two, and it really shows. They use low quality assets and textures, they cut out an unnecessary amount of Pokemon, and the story might as well not be there at this point. If the Pokemon company actually cared about making good games, they could, but instead they keep pumping out garbage. There's been a large amount of fans for years who have wanted them to take their time making better games, but it's the loud groups who go "Give us a new gen," or "We want remakes" who push them to keep giving us what are quite frankly bad games. Nobody wants these games to be "the most expensive RPG ever." Nobody is asking for a shitty asset flip. We just want actual good games. I don't care if they keep using the same models for the next 5+ years. The problem is that they keep lying, cutting back features and Pokemon, and giving us low quality games that aren't worth the $60, and especially not when they make us pay MORE money for an expansion pass for more Pokemon. I mean hell, even something like Pokemon Masters has voice acting in it. A mobile game is doing more with the IP than the main series games. That's just sad.

[@samreddig8819]

@@HopelessXzavier the point is, if you're gonna pull 90% if the work from the other games why was over half the dex gone at launch?

[@GamerBlazened]

Leon: "Ok Ill help you, just wait until after tomorrow" Rose: *"And I took that personally"*

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

I pulled an awesome prank on Avery kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHO4moBpftSfprM

[@nunosilva8865]

That is the pinnacle of storytelling, you just don't see it *it's a joke okay*

[@Just_normal_youtube_channel]

Truly fantastic writing. All it missing is someone saying “It’s ________ time”

[@Kumaclaws]

Given the game’s massive flaws, I actually really like the concept of the Fairy gym. I like that the gym’s gimmick also blends into the battles, with quizzes that buff or debuff stats. The first couple questions are relatively easy, but the third one throws in a curveball to teach the player that some of these questions are gonna be bullshit. The gym leader’s questions are even more tricky, with the last one being impossible to get right. But why? Because fairies are tricksters who commit petty crimes, just to watch people get pissed. It all perfectly fits together and it’s everything I could have wanted in a fairy type gym.

[@iandean1112]

Her answers are on her league card!

[@violetsparkles5453]

the last one isnt impossible you just have to guess the youngest age option

[@LordTyph]

So they actually had gyms be something decent and play around with mechanics mid-battle? Something they should have been doing for a while?

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

-except for an option to eat bede’s hair

[@GeorgeMonet]

I can't stand that shit. If the game is going to cheat me then it has to allow me to cheat it.

[@RoleCrow]

I mean the switch can run the Witcher 3 so i figure gamefreak could add more than 5 people to a city and add some facial animations...

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

It can't do it while sustaining even 30fps though. They can definitely do better with the hardware but The Witcher 3 port is compromised to high hell.

[@chris.6349]

doesn't the witcher 3 run at like 480p at barely 30 fps? the switch isnt a console that can run a lot of modern games sadly

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@chris.6349 It can't even maintain 25 fps in busy cities or swamp areas (a large chunk of where you engage in combat.)

[@jaimeantonioolaguezchirino5805]

@@chris.6349 The Witcher 3 is arguably one of the most overloaded and most poorly optimized games tough, not a good stick to measure the switch. However the console is still more powerfull than a 3ds and sword n' shield barely meet that standard.

[@RoleCrow]

I know it´s a bad port my point is that it runs and pokemon doesn´t require much so gamefreak is just lazy, compare it to Breath of the wild then...

[@lilith1992]

Thank you for pointing out the massive flaws in the raid battles. I am the type of player that plays alone, I always have. As soon as I was working and had my own money, I bought both copies of a pokemon game to be able to trade with myself. I do not want to battle with 3 other strangers, but as you said the npcs are overall stupid and worthless for those fights. I find this even more annoying because those encounters are based on quite strict rules, like you said the fight ends after any one pokemon has fainted 4 times and you are generally just given ten rounds, then its over. With those shields and those limits I have had almost no chances to get those 5 Star raid Pokemon.

[@NaturesFlame]

Imma do you a solid and point out Reflect/Light Screen. Covers the whole party and the extra bulk gives you MORE than enough time to nab the 5 stars

[@deadeyez0132]

? Just connect to the internet. You will literally never lose a raid again. There's no interaction with other users so as an introvert it will do nothing but make your game better.

[@Noblemartel]

@@deadeyez0132 You need to pay more money to use that feature. Overall it doesn't seem worth it.

[@puppiekit]

@@deadeyez0132 they literally say they don't want to battle alongside strangers on the internet lmfao

[@NoobKingu]

@@10tailedbijuu 20 bucks a year can get you a good book a year

[@bigtimetimmyjim6486]

The earlier gens allow you to explore a lot of side content and encourage you to progress the main story at your own pace. Sword and Shield, on the other hand, were enjoyable for you because it was as painless of an experience as possible, shipping you on a maglev through the main story arc without any jarring interruptions. It was a painless, 8-10 hour experience that was unspectacular, yet inoffensive, although it has questionable replay value. That is what the series is now, I guess, a $60 ten-hour digital day trip where you get to check off all of the boxes of the "pokemon experience".

[@isetmfriendsofire]

I do miss the hostility of the environment.

[@Raidon484]

Yeah, I think he basically said "I want a Pokemon game, but without the story". Tell me then: WHY PLAY THESE GAMES IN THE FIRST PLACE? Since when do I play a game and then be like "You know, it's fun and all, but you know what would be really great? Having this game (where some are arguably at least known for some pretty memorable villains or rivals, etc.), but without any story." You know, the reason you have this adventure in the first place? But wait, right, this game has no story whatsoever, so it has no replay value whatsoever, not even sidestories!

[@32rush79]

@@Raidon484 i play pokemon to explore side areas and make interesting teams and play the game at my own pace, and this has always been the premise until gen 5. no one plays pokemon for the dogshit story lmao

[@OriginalGameteer]

@@Raidon484 uhhhhh probably because I enjoy the formula and building up a team? If I cared that much about a story-driven game I'd probably go play something with worthwhile stories to tell. I'm not saying story's a bad thing, but a) people can like things for different reasons so calm the heck down, and b) since when has story been a make or break in this series? Outside like gens 5 and 7 the overlying story was never anything worthwhile or important at the end of the day The game has serious flaws, doesn't change the fact I enjoyed playing the game. I don't give a shit if the story's good or not when I'm enjoying the game I bought anyways.

[@briannelson3830]

The way they make the characters look is offensive to me

[@rcb5432]

Be fair to Pokemon. It isn't one of the largest grossing franchises in the world, it is THE LARGEST. Gamefreak definitely has the money to make a good game.

[@isetmfriendsofire]

Probably hiring a bunch of new people could solve at least a noticeable amount of issues.

[@iantaakalla8180]

And yet they never will.

[@HDGaminTutorials]

I just cant beleive we dont have some awesome next gen graphics pokemon game and I cant beleive the animations still look as bad as they do after years of pokemon games double kick still looks like shit

[@pumkin610]

On the other hand, they don't need to make good games, they're rich. Who among them could create a masterpiece? Who has the passion? It's like star wars.

[@pumkin610]

@@HDGaminTutorials a group of people could probably make something better in unity, no joke

[@pikachufanz4744]

i really appreciate that Salt has kept his opinions consistent with previous games and acknowledged when he liked a feature. for example, when he evaluated the previous generations' stories, he constantly complained about the adults never doing anything. now that the adults do something to help, he is happy.

[@positivea9111]

@@10tailedbijuu Is it because it boring to go to A to B without anything cool happening because if it is I can agreed on it.

[@speedygus2564]

I would have liked some recognition for when Gen 5 did it, but I suppose you can't ask for everything.

[@prcervi]

a sad side effect to the adults no longer being useless, we the player just lost access to half the plot and events and pokemon accidentally outs itself as formulaic as balls

[@heavygunner4039]

@@prcervi aye, now the adults do too much

[@greensabr200]

@@heavygunner4039 from a narrative perspective its awesome that the adults aren't useless, but from a gameplay perspective it's shit

[@headcandi93]

As a Brit I kinda took the swimmers on the freezing beaches as a joke about how oddly optimistically we approach our weather - it's so shite most of the time that people do swim in freezing water and everyone takes their shirt off the second it hits over 15 degrees Celsius. People will stubbornly set up camp on beaches even if the wind is blowing their towels/ice-cream/toddlers away

[@KaiserVarius]

WHY!?

[@TheBigGlober68]

Yes that is us British Folk. Weather above Freezing point and we have a mental breakdown

[@TheBigGlober68]

@@katlynklassen809 I live there you salty knob

[@amziedragon6619]

Same that was my thought too! Getting ice cream at the beach while it snows in winter is normal for British peeps lol

[@ItsZorroDood]

I like that the game didn't even establish that Rose's organisation is called Macro Cosmos. You just randomly find that out because the battle text boxes say so.

[@readmylipsmum1079]

To me it screams that the game was straight up unfinished. They clearly did a poor job cutting alot of the end content

[@lillith7257]

I straight up only found out in the end

[@An_Entire_Lime]

Rose's weird plot was probably one of the most hilariously bad things Ive seen in a video game

[@ZorotheGallade]

27:00 That's a subtly genius moment because his Pokémon's signature ability is Steam Engine, which empowers them when they get hit with a Water-type move. So it does make sense he would train them in a cave with Water-types.

[@shadowrosegaming3566]

I think you got the wrong timestamp

[@ZorotheGallade]

@@shadowrosegaming3566 Fixed it

[@TheAAJYu]

It would have been genius, but the game points out immediately after that the Carkol isn’t his own; it was out on a Poke Job and Kabu was helping it out. Kabu doesn’t use the Rolycoly line on any of his teams either.

[@ZorotheGallade]

@@TheAAJYu Well bummer. There goes TPC managing to not have a cool detail on accident.

[@bharatgoel8809]

I wish steam engine had absolutely any niche

[@zakai-kaz]

“If you stand your ground with everything you got, it doesn't matter what’s right or wrong.” The Internet sure thinks that.

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

I fell asleep and then in a dream I literally saw an adult hop with giant yellow petals on his hairline

[@blitzie66]

@@sarah.lovelace.animated u good?

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

@@blitzie66 yeah, hop is probably half sunflower tho

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Bede sure looks good (to eat) in pink tho

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Bede’s hair looks so TASTY

[@Nuclear_Gandhi]

Say what you want about Team Yell but at least the villain team being a bunch of football hooligans is accurate to the setting

[@mcdylster6678]

The answers to Opal's questions are all on her Gym Trainer card. She is just seeing if you actually read it. I just used the wiki for answers though lol.

[@mcdylster6678]

@SharinganSakura yeah. It is a nice little feature. I think it is to get people to play around with their trainer cards

[@mcdylster6678]

@SharinganSakura I've played like 12 hardcore nuzlockes of sword and shield and I think I only found that out on my 4th run or so lol

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Some1 shave bede’s cake hair because the pheromones be like meth

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

If bede discovered that I had telekinesis but I’ve only known how to manipulate hair?

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

If piers noticed that his skunk hair likes to spray people at random?

[@chippps9163]

Out of all the issues this game had, the one that frustrated me the most was not getting to wear the extra uniforms you can buy at the gyms in the gym challenges themselves. I too, thought it was an obvious addition and was very disappointed but I guess they thought people wanted to wear uniforms outside of the gym challenges and not in them.

[@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega]

even in the rematch of the championship you cannot wear other clothes, lucky the DLC star tournament makes you able to wear your normal clothes, my gold outfit looks awesome

[@MrGingerSpecs]

Tbf with galar being based on the UK, you can walk in to a random pub across the country and see some kind of amazing mural pasted on the ceiling or wall that's depicting some event that happened hundreds of years ago, as an example there's a pub called the Wellington just outside of Waterloo Station in London that has a mural of the battle of Waterloo on the ceiling

[@aerrae5608]

The thing about type themes is they can actually be tough. It's just gamefreak doesn't make them tough. A rain team with a drizzle starter and all Swift Swim Pokemon would be VERY difficult. Imagine Mega Swamper, Kingdra, Ludicolo, Poliwrath, Kabutops and Barraskweda. That would likely require your team to be completely redone to handle it as the enemies speed and power would be obscene.

[@zero1343]

That's one thing that some of the romhacks do really well. Make it feel like you have to actually tailor your team to the gym or challenge rather than just using the one super effective move throughout.

[@Nobody-su9km]

@@10tailedbijuu Legends is easier actually, it's not complex, just click a move, kill the guy, get revenge killed, proceed to revenge kill and so on until the battle ends, and the interactive battle mode is kinda of a joke 3 atack patterns with BIG evasion windows, so easy to dodge is not even funny...

[@blazingblaze250]

To be fair, I want to have an enjoyable challenging game. I don't want to grind out a competitive team for casual play.

[@cjjcrodrigo1149]

@TrainerblueTube *Looks at pokemon insurgence*

[@eagletgriff]

*pokemon reborn/rejuvenation moment* *souta flashbacks*

[@sourpatchkilla]

They never showed it but in the cartoons when a pokemon goes dynamax and uses an attack the stadium actually has some sort of force field/ plot armor to stop all attacks from exploding the arena...lol

[@QwertyCaesar]

There's some flavor text that they're not actually that size, that it's just some kind of projection of their inner spirit or whatever.

[@lvlHive]

@@QwertyCaesar So they made Dynamax pokemon even less cool?

[@QwertyCaesar]

@@lvlHive Meh, it doesn't really matter to me either way. It's a fantasy contrivance in a fantasy series. If you're playing a pokemon game and going "this is totally unrealistic, that person would be fried to a crisp" there's a "you" problem with how you're approaching the game.

[@Shazam1998]

@@QwertyCaesar I don't think that has anything to do with realism and complaining over it not being there. Dynamax was a downgrade of Mega Evolutions in the first place, and to then be told that Dynamax basically isn't even real just kinda takes away from the whole "spectacle.

[@QwertyCaesar]

@@Shazam1998 I personally vastly prefer Dynamax over Mega-Evolution and I know a lot of folks who feel that way. I think that Mega-Evolution had more potential but that it was largely squandered on pokemon that were already popular and/or powerful. Not really a fond of the fact that they're just Digivolving into anime fighter characters rather than actual species either. Dynamax introduces Gigantimax, which does at first seem to bias towards certain pokemon, many already popular, but when you actually look at it Gigantimax is a mixed bag because sometimes G-Max moves aren't as preferred for a situation as D-Max moves - Charizard is a good example of this. Even if we still incorrectly assumed that G-Max is preferable every single to D-Max species of pokemon can benefit from a D-max as opposed to just the few dozen pokemon there's mega stones for. Also just as a matter of personal taste but I prefer Gigantimax forms to Mega Evolutions aesthetically because rather than looking like edgelord anime fighters from a shonen like many of the megas do many of the Gigantimax forms look like an animal, but a titanic, ancient of that individual species. Gmax Lapras, Butterfree, Snorlax, Centiscorch, and Corviknight off the top of my head look like they could exist in the pokemon universe as lowercase L legendary, as kaijus that myths form about like how in the real world we have, for example, myths of giant snakes and lake creatures they might have myths of a giant Butterfree. I'm not going to defend all Gigantimax forms or denigrate all mega evolution forms (there are some fantastic ones among the cringe) but if I had to pick one and ditch the other I'm keeping Gigantimax without hesitation.

[@superdawge808]

Oh yeah, that final Rose conflict and randomly "saving" Leon from just talking to Rose was so weird. It's like they NEEDED a conflict but had no idea how to implement or be creative with it. They honestly didn't even need it, the game was fine even if it didn't exist

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

What about the fact that bede looks like a vanilla cupcak?

[@MrTrombonebandgeek]

if black and white is anything to go by; they couldve, but mightve had outside constraints to tell a story they wanted

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

@@MrTrombonebandgeek when I see bede in ballonlea’s colors I think that if I ate him he’ll probably taste so good that I won’t regret it no matter how much I get punished for if

[@FNDoomer]

Bede should have showed up right before you battle rose or sometime during the darkest day.

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

@@FNDoomer I know, right? Bede looks so damn appetizing in pink that I literally just devour him

[@anothergamer112]

Your Y-comm discussion really highlights how genuinely impressive it is that whenever Game Freak introduces a quality of life change, they introduce 10 new inconveniences.

[@chriskoloski32]

Ironic that you used gen 5 gym leaders as an example for when adults make kids do dangerous things, when the gen 5 gym leaders actually did stuff and tried to not get you involved

[@timurtheking]

Gen 4 is a good example

[@theurbanreanimator7244]

@@timurtheking literally the first gym leader in gen 4 makes your go through actively busy mines with both pokemon and mining work, greets you casually and asks you to go back through the mines alone after you find him, and if im remember right gives you the underground equipment to mine yourself, definitely not all the gym leaders are the most concerned about a kid safety in gen 4

[@theurbanreanimator7244]

@TrainerblueTubeAlright, i wasnt sure if he did or not because last time i played gen 4 was two years ago

[@theurbanreanimator7244]

@TrainerblueTube Yeah gen 4 is my personal least favorite gen so i dont revisit it too often

[@timurtheking]

@TrainerblueTube why do you need to tell me this? I already said gen 4 was a good example

[@strangeone9456]

“And he gets blown out so bad he gives ME a revive” made me laugh way to hard lmao

[@Luchux177]

You know what would've been cool? People complain about how they always seem to funnel you away from the action or anything mildly interesting that's happening by Leon or someone else. Then why not have the MC be a bystander and let us play as Leon for those portions? Give Leon a set team that includes the third starter (if you are worried about spoiling his team just handwave it as him using pokemon that he's training for later on.) and make those battles something of a puzzle encounter with several ways of solving the thing. It would've been awesome

[@ColdEmperor]

If they’re concerned about realism which is why I’m assuming is why Leon took care of the dangerous bullshit why not age the damn MC? A 10 year old will get murked in the first patch of grass. Switching to an adult doing it is cool but having your MC be 18-20 is even better.

[@Luchux177]

@@ColdEmperor I mean, a lot of the protagonists seem to be in their early to late teens. The youngest looking ones are from gens 1 throught 3, but Lucas and Dawn look like they are 14 at the least, Hilbert and Hilda can't be younger than 16 as are Nate and Rosa. Calem and Serena look like they are 17. Elio and Selene seem to be a return to the trend of yoinger characters though, that's kinda sad.

[@hamburgtortoise9217]

@@Luchux177 I know the protags in Black and White and 2 are at least 16, if not 17. I'm pretty sure for every other one they're 12 except for the first game where they were 10. Also I think x and y were 16, not sure about s/m though.

[@mr.preston1632]

@@hamburgtortoise9217 Games before: 11-12 BW: 14 BW: 14 XY: 16 SM: 11 SS: 11 It says in Bulbapedia this but I dont know if this is stated

[@3possumsinatrenchcoat]

@@hamburgtortoise9217 I remember being flabbergasted at being told in a moon cutscene my character was eleven. stuck with me because it was just so stupid based on how the avatars looked.

[@ajh22895]

One of the weirdest parts of this game is the AI trainer levels. There's multiple areas where enemy trainers use a single pokemon that is 5-10 levels weaker than the wild pokemon you just caught on the route they are on.

[@Boredman567]

24:45 Rose standing there in his boxers talking to a strict lady in high platform heels gives me some uncomfortable BDSM vibes.

[@MrTrombonebandgeek]

doesnt help that salt called her the "handler"

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Hop needs to do something with his bangs as they look exactly like a sunflower seed crown

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Also bede’s hair looks like a cream puff

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Like does bede’s hair have to be like cotton cocaine?

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Somebody call 911 because bede’s hair is cotton cocaine

[@LeleJackMusic]

The "high quality animations" still makes me seethe, especially because we lost the National Dex. And the swimmers in the icy ocean area actually made me feel really uncomfortable during my play through. Such an easy fix to put the swimmers in wetsuits or something or, hear me out, maybe don't have people swimming in icy waters while it's hailing. Take a couple days and model a boat for people to sit in. Gah.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Why doesn't anyone else ever Surf on a pokemon? I know this is the game where surfing is 100% axed in favor of swimming with a bike, but, just, as an aside.

[@millionshadesofdarkness2165]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 lazy devs

[@eagletgriff]

@@millionshadesofdarkness2165 but like other games too :(

[@nyx3983]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 in or/as there are ace trainers who use surf & dive. don’t know why that wasn’t continued.

[@ZellyTheFangirl]

waking up to a Salt Factory vid really be like having a nice big bowl of breakfast salt

[@monketron]

After playing Legends Arceus extensively, i thought about trying to play Pokemon Shield again, since i only played it for about 8 hours, and didnt remember much. I forgot how bored this game makes me feel. Its sad how boring and formulaic this game is, because Scorbunny is so cute! Hope we see some Galar pokemon in future Pokemon Legends games!

[@BloominGandalf]

I actually found the fact that Hop is perpetually going through some crisis of confidence/ serious depressive episode to be one of the more attention grabbing aspects. Not sure how intentional it was, but I found his story more interesting than mine.

[@shadowrosegaming3566]

He still annoying

[@PoopHobbit]

that's my biggest problem with the game. You are just watching everything happen to everyone around you and the player character has like... nothing to do besides camp.

[@luci_datum]

See, I feel like they could have actually explored that more - him slowly losing confidence more and more, and your character can actually choose to cheer him up or put him down, which can change the trajectory of his personal arc into the end game where he eventually decides to become a professor - either because he gives up pokemon battling entirely due to nobody believing in him, or because he decides to give it up because he feels like his talents lie elsewhere. That's asking a LOT from gamefreak though, even if all they would need is to change some dialogue and animations overall. The game would still be dogshit but it would make Hop sliiightly more compelling overall.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I do agree that it's at least kinda neat... but it feels more like some new hire made the obvious "we beat this kid so much, why isn't he depressed yet" joke, and the insulated staff responded with a "that's genius!"

[@zoologygirl252]

Same i think he was actually really well written as a result. Its a good character arc

[@rboss5919]

I think the problem with Hop being just ahead of you in badges is that he never feels like a serious threat in the early and mid-game. He's constantly getting out classed by you and the other gym challengers and his personality is "happy-go-lucky kid who doesn't realize that he's not as good as he thinks he is."

[@ThePainkiller9995]

"Imagine an athlete doing poses and the entire crowd going nuts" The entire sport of bodybuilding lol

[@QwertyCaesar]

Salt acting like he wouldn't flip his lid if he saw Usain Bolt in public doing his pose.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

We'd all lose our shit if Shaq appeared and dropped his iconic Shaquille "I Kneel" pose

[@jaz5721]

Also, Usain Bolt

[@mordet2]

Lol "sport"

[@TheForeignGamer]

I mean, isn't that literally the entire appeal of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure?

[@mattbarker97]

I love that so much of the stuff praised in this video was actually new in Pokemon Let's Go. I think the Let's Go games are significantly underrated games with awesome mechanics and a unique shake up of the formula. Overworld pokemon, portable PC, etc is good stuff that should definitely stay

[@Loner098]

Honestly, the Let's Go games are currently the most polished Pokemon games on the Switch.

[@AmirPrinceling]

I won't lie, Let's Go bored me to absolute death. Like I was playing Pre-School Pokemon. I have never been so bored playing Pokemon as I have been with Let's Go.

[@tylercoon1791]

@@Loner098counterpoint: PMD RTDX

[@Linkario]

I love that the town team yell is from is essentially designed as an old school style beat-em-up like Streets of Rage or Double Dragon with the characters jumping out of windows or doing flips from outside the screen, forcing you to beat em up before moving on. The "GO" neon sign was nice touch as well. I understand wanting it to blend into the world more and have more significance as a place within it, but looking at these places as "levels" you have to clear just seems to make more sense sometimes.

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

And that’s why I’m suspicious that team yell’s got *rabies*

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

Piers’s habit of wearing live animals as wigs is causing issues regarding whether or not he has allopecia

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

@@10tailedbijuu because, his skunk hair looks ridiculous!

[@Gunner1997100]

"Too big to fail." You're not wrong they could make Pokémon remakes actively uglier on every level except resolution and still drown in money.

[@GameLeaderR]

They could probably down grade resolution too and still sell lol.

[@fyrentenimar]

Is that a jab at the Diamond and Pearl remakes?

[@mr.preston1632]

@@fyrentenimar Yes...

[@modernkiwi6447]

Gamefreak has no reason to try anymore with modern Pokemon games because they are pretty much guaranteed to do well financially. And unless something big happens in the near future that would force Gamefreak to put some effort into development, I doubt that's going to change. The best we can hope for now is TPC giving development rights to a company like MonolithSoft or Bandai Namco

[@mr.preston1632]

@@modernkiwi6447 People hating BW and people loving pokemon go has pretty much led gamefreak to not put enough effort into this game

[@lewb2046]

I think most of the issues will be fixed when they finally release Pokemon Gun

[@narutobroken]

Pokémon ICBM gonna be lit

[@yesman8514]

@@narutobroken Pokémon Nuclear Winter!

[@bradensmith8682]

I'm excited for its DLC: the Bumpstock Backyard and the Silencer Schoolyard.

[@eaglesoar1188]

Gotta shoot em all

[@pickyphysicsstudent201]

Going from the pattern of the third installment (Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, etc), Pokemon Gun will have minor tweaks to the gameplay & story. 80% of the 15 each version exclusive pokemon they have in both versions will be accessible. Maybe the version specific gyms will be mixed 'n' matched, so you'll have Sword's rock Gym and Shield's Ice gym. Most of all, there will be 50 roaming legendaries.

[@MasonOfLife]

This probably doesn’t help, but Leon is based on a professional soccer player (as soccer is huge is the UK where Galar is based on) Those are soccer shorts and soccer player’s often wear leggings/thermal leggings for both style or for warmth when playing in the fall/winter So it’s appropriate given the whole Pokémon League Challenge being very comparable to the Premiere League (basically NFL of Soccer in England) Does it look a bit weird? Sure, should he have a different outfit for walking around than he does while battling? Sure, but it’s stylized relatively appropriately Anyways

[@luc1137]

"Hops mum called her son a noun" bro you cant say anything, youre named after a mineral

[@Zachattack1cub]

Action* which translates to calling him a verb.

[@chaosmuffinminecraft]

Jesus, Walt. They're rocks.

[@RatBoyDunce]

I mean technically everyone’s name is a noun

[@BeardFaceSuper]

@@Zachattack1cub No. Hops is referring to the plant which is used to create beer. Therefore it is a noun.

[@Zachattack1cub]

@@BeardFaceSuper Actually still wrong. This was said by the creator of the video, not the game itself. His name in-game is still HOP, not HOPS, and HOP is a verb or action. Hell, HOPS is also still a verb or action, in the present-tense. Your statement is only true in the context of JUST the creator's sentence, not the game itself.

[@tlcompletionist7892]

Me: Sees T-Posing Hop Ah yeah. This is gonna be good.

[@Elitus]

All hail T-Posing Hop

[@justinsinger2505]

In defense of barry. He was so headstrong that it got him in trouble countless times and when he loses to Jupiter at that one lake after you get the 7th gym badge you see him realize how wrong he was to rush headstrong and carelessly.

[@albertozalon8477]

Barry is awesome dude just bashes through half the hurdles

[@YouW00t]

That Arcanine survived because you used a Physical Dynamax move while burned. It reduced your Gyarados' attack by half so even with your mon's chunky attack it took some work.

[@WatsonDynamite]

even more if that Arcanine had Intimidate

[@baddragonite]

"I would never say that *GAME FREAK IS INTENTIONALLY NOT FIXING RAID BATTLES TO SELL MORE NINTENDO ONLINE SUBS* " Lmao

[@cameroncornell3683]

Watcha mean? Magikarp and wobbifet are great teammates against a toxisitry

[@volcanolord100]

@@cameroncornell3683 Ironically Magikarp tends to be one of the better team members. They usually actually attack with hydro pump.

[@sarah.lovelace.animated]

But bede’s tasty looking cake hair tho… also I’m so hungry that I don’t know if he heard my stomach.

[@zachgaines8349]

Honestly, a poster-size copy of the bill of rights on the wall would absolutely NOT look out of place at applebees.

[@cecillewolters1995]

That 'Switching to one handed mode' when Nessa appeared was a stroke of genius man hahaha Awesome video, great review, gotta take notes for my own future games, thank you very much! :D

[@bjoernsenp.5664]

Im sure stroking had something to do with it huehuehue

[@bottledducky9610]

@@bjoernsenp.5664 i cant

[@cyber_zen8366]

That was the best joke in the video

[@FeiFongWang]

Why do people like Nessa again? She looks and acts extremely generically and has the body of a 16 year old, with the head of an anime inspired Cabbage patch kid.

[@duckinator2951]

25:43 This had me in a laughing fit

[@Nexuish]

Can you imagine a Pokémon where you can choose to be a champion like the usual storyline or a researcher? I think that’d be neat

[@roskari8772]

@sway4all what.

[@caswellweird]

Salt: Try, guys. Come on. Just try. Pokemon fans: nah, don’t do that. You’re perfect. *hands Game Freak more money*

[@genyakozlov1316]

I mean, his complains about the story were pretty idiotic, so I would rather no one listened to them, but Gigantamax battles did sound very unfun, so that I can agree with.

[@bruno17289]

@@genyakozlov1316 But the story is dumb, is a regression from Sun and Moon. And even White and Black. Are we okay with some aspects of pokemon being actually worse than it's predecessors because they don't have to try?

[@SleepyDonnnn]

@@bruno17289 Sun and moon at least had interesting characters and decent story id compare it more to x and y

[@caswellweird]

@@SleepyDonnnn crazy thing is that the characters in SwSh ARE good. If you read their league cards they are very fleshed out and unique, the problem is that NONE of their traits beyond a surface level impression are ever shown off. The game tells you about Sonia and Leon’s old rivalry but never actually represents it in their interaction unless its to exposit that piece of info. If you watch the anime you get to see just how more lively and fleshed out the characters are.

[@mariokarter13]

Contrary to popular belief, Pokemon isn't a video game series. It's a merchandise empire.

[@koldmoons]

The thing about the young protagonists always fighting adults got my brain on a tangent on a Pokémon story where the bad guys are really ambitious kids that wanna get rid of all the adults, and they are able to do it because no one thinks they are serious. So the end of the game is the protagonist has to undo the actions of the baddies and teach them the error of their ways… I get what you mean by the limitless potential of these games and how it is wasted.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Only if the protagonist is a mid-to-late 20's general failure and dropout who sets out to give some bad kids spankings even though nobody asked him to.

[@hadoking3636]

Danganronpa: Ultra Despair Girls.

[@kamikoto1558]

@@hadoking3636 faxxxx

[@tuesdaygrey1032]

I like the detail that Hop chooses the Pokémon that Leon's Pokémon is weak against. Hop is really focused on defeating his brother and living up to him, to the point where he is willing to open himself up to be vulnerable against you just to have that advantage against his brother. It makes the most sense if you pick Grookey because then his water type Pokémon would be strong against the leftover starter AND Leon's Charizard.

[@rainermist2357]

You're giving Gamefreak way too much credit...

[@waleeddarwish2380]

I picked scorbunny and he picked grooky, meaning it's weak against his brothers charizard. Your overthinking gamefreaks design

[@WatsonDynamite]

except Leon only picks the remaining starter after you and Hop both choose so there's no way Hop could have known

[@CrispyBaconYT555]

25:45 are we going to ignore how he switched it to one-handed play when the second gym leader came on screen? Comedic genius

[@blitzie66]

i was too distracted by the fact he didn’t like the best part of the song

[@robertlupa8273]

A better way of showing your, uh, "love" for the character than vocal (if still ironic) simping. Sometimes silence can be worth more than a thousand words.

[@716_ハディくん]

literally searching for this comment

[@fell5514]

I feel like Spikemuth is a reference to old school beat 'em ups like Streets of Rage where after thrashing a group of goons a big pointer finger pops up in neon telling you to keep walking right like you have been the whole time.

[@happiestaku6646]

Doesn't work for a Gym though.

[@maxspecs]

It’s a super cool reference though, between the dark streets, the way grunts come out in formation, and the jazzy music.

[@sammydray5919]

That could have worked if it was done well

[@mr_mykal]

Actually, it is incorrect that they had to remake the models from scratch. The 3DS games had framerate issues specifically because they made incredibly high poly models to future proof the Pokemon models to use in the future for more powerful hardware. These models have been used for things for Pokemon Go, Pokemon Masters, Let's Go Eevee/Pikachu, and I think even Pokken Tournament. At worst, they only had to make new texture for the models... Either way, if they did decide to remake the models from scratch, that sounds like a colossal waste of time and resources and made the 3DS games laggy for no reason OR they you know, were straight up lying. (Either way, neither is a good look.)

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

I think that whole thing was lost in translation, they did remake a lot of TEXTURES for the switch games, if you want prime evidence take a look at Vaporeon between the 3DS games and LG P/E, though it's mostly the small devteam that's ruining Gake Freak's good name...

[@pit2992]

Pokkén Tournament has abdolutely new models, they are nothing like the 3DS one. I honestly did found your comment interesting until you mentioned Pokkén, meaning you literally do not even know what you are talking about.

[@SmartSmears]

@@pit2992 the part of the comment where he said he wasn't sure and didnt say so definitively ?

[@serpentmaster1323]

@@pit2992 Actually you are wrong about that. Pokken Tournament does use the exact same models as those on the 3DS. Textures and thoughtful animations make a huge difference!

[@pit2992]

@@serpentmaster1323 How so? The animations are completely different, the height, the way they stand, the details, their whole bodies are different, and many other little things.

[@zeroqp]

Dude, can I just say, I love your video style! It's such an awesome mix of relaxed, down to earth review, with the funniest humour (largely thanks to the subtlety) I've seen in a long time. You literally made me laugh so hard that I cried a little from the joke at the second gym leader 😂

[@TheGrandSilence]

I just cant agree on the whole "Let the adults handle it" thing, sure its more logical and what not but as the player you get utterly cockblocked from the plot until the last half and hour where you have to save the world in like ten minutes so you can then challenge the champion who still acts like he stands a chance when you have the evil skeleton shrimp monster on your team

[@stego7782]

One thing I hated was that I had to hold myself back from one shotting every pokemon in sight, and even then it was still way too easy. You've probably heard it a thousand times but the ability to change the difficulty would be such a good addition to the game, that way you can still provide a challenge for the more experienced players and also have a fun game for kids new to the game. I've downloaded rom hacks for gen 3 -5 games that increase the difficulty of gym battles so that they actually have a team with 6 Pokemon with actually 4 moves that all work together with a strategy. It doesn't even seem like that much work for Gamefreak to do that.

[@theurbanreanimator7244]

The hardest a pokemon game will get is the battle tower or (and sometimes this is hit or miss) if theres a fight with Red, all other in game battles tend to be a breeze and even "difficult" trainers like Cynthia or some of the battle towers can be jokes if you even use the smallest bit of brain power, the best way you'll have to be challenged are nuzlocks.

[@burstvgc]

Wasn't expecting the casual controls joke on nessa. Damn thats clever.

[@moldyzucchinis3251]

Was wondering if other people noticed that

[@slevinchannel7589]

Its terrible. IGN has bought shame on themselves, on their family, and on their Cow, as Dragon Mushu would say, because they praised this beyond believe.

[@tiruliru1189]

@@slevinchannel7589 Indeed.

[@FraserSouris]

@@slevinchannel7589 Is it really a bad thing? Like, Pokemon's movement isn't complicated so is halving a simplified control scheme, especially one that makes it easier to play on your phone while playing the game during its boring moments a bad thing?

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@FraserSouris Friend... i fear you've forgotten Quality...

[@diojiwoolf]

The tapestry wasn't just hanging in some corporate highway exit Applebees! Some pubs in the UK go back a century! Ancient tapestries and other historical relics have been found on the walls or in the basement of restaurants!

[@thehillsarealivewiththesou6759]

My local pub dates back to the 1700s and is furnished with very antique furniture, it even has a Stuart period helmet on the wall!

[@chrisallinson1951]

There's loads of pubs in the UK older than a century. York is full of pubs older than the USA.

[@princepsregem4006]

“What did I eat for breakfast” has mad “What is in my pocket” energy.

[@sweetssandbox3526]

That’s not a fucking riddle, BILBO

[@a.g.m8790]

Breakfast is always what yesterdays dinner should have been

[@oryonatwood9299]

@@a.g.m8790 Unless it's leftover pizza. Then we find true equality of the meals.

[@a.g.m8790]

@@oryonatwood9299 No. Exceptions.

[@Calruxio]

I can see Opal being Smeagle. Instead of yelling "BAAGGINZZEZZ!!!" it would just be her cranking her head back yelling "BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDEEEEE!!!!!"

[@lilybeejones]

Raihan reminded me of some of the Colosseum bosses. Like having a team with a STRATEGY. Like rain dance and thunder, or protect and earthquake.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Gamefreak has yet to top Skill Swap Slaking, Baton Pass Scizor, and Tyranitar with a guaranteed SE physical move that you explicitly do NOT want to kill ASAP all on the same team.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

@@10tailedbijuu True. I'm still waiting for Scizor to be added to mainline pokemon games.

[@Nobody-su9km]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 there is literally a scizor in the elite four aaron's team in pokemon platinum, and in diamond/pearl rematch... He's dificult to obtain because he is an evolution line pokemon, but he's present in the game.

[@hpswagcraft]

god i miss colosseum quality pokemon games

[@Tyhoon01]

The wishing star/dynamax band thing has bugged me for a while and it's such a simple fix that it's actually kind of comical; make them a limited resource. This would make the second Hop fight have a bit more meaning and foreshadowing as you're now battling for Leon's Band with the loser getting Sonia's, signaling their endorsement of the two of you as trainers, (this could also be where a technically meaningless outcome could be used to make the game harder, with Hop having a stronger team should you have his brother's band). It would also make Bede's actions a bit more heinous and villainous, as he's now actively stealing them from other trainers, knocking them out of the competition as he goes, (a suggestion he could have received from Oleana). His later action to destroy a national monument to find just one more would also make a hell of a lot more sense as well due to there being fewer trainers to fight and the few remaining being quite tough. This would also make Marnie and Piers make a bit more sense, with Piers' gym lacking the funding or sway for him to both give his sister his band to show endorsement and keep one for himself. With them falling out of the sky and into your laps, being plentiful enough to be sold to and purchased by children, and ultimately not mattering at all in the long term except to make Rose look like the biggest idiot alive, everyone just comes out a bit worse because of it.

[@realhuman1793]

10 out of 10 idea honestly

[@staydetermined6717]

We need a mod of this-

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Its worse. Most people dont even get it. Most have 'forgotten' Quality, let alone thought about 'Potential'.

[@thejonbrownshow8470]

I love how in the thumbnail hop is the only one in 3d and asserting dominance at all times

[@midastheunwise2423]

I actually enjoyed the Spikemuth section, because the side-scrolling style and neon signs pointing 'Go', with the thugs just jumping out at you from everywhere, is an obvious reference to the Streets of Rage series. If you've not played those games though, it probably doesn't make much sense and seems weird.

[@Gandalf-fe3gw]

But was it really a good idea sacrificing an entire town that could have been actually interesting for a silly reference? I mean, those who know that game they are referencing probably got a chuckle from it and rated the town a bit higher than the average player would...but at the end of the day, it's just a freaking boring town that is entirely a straight line. That's something that maybe, and only maybe could have worked in a 2D Pokemon game, but not in a Switch Title that already suffers from lack of content ^^.

[@thesummerofmark]

A one hour and 20 minute video? Damn Salt, you’re getting lazy smh

[@jacobfromallstate4963]

NO HEZ NOT, U R LIER

[@K_hessel]

@@jacobfromallstate4963 he is, sorry to say. He's too important to make the fans the 6 hour pokemon video they deserve

[@Realppbutt]

@@K_hessel gamer

[@jacobfromallstate4963]

@@Realppbutt ty for your interjection Mr. Poopypeepeebutt

[@crimsonking440]

This is just a warm up for his 72 hour mass effect trilogy video.

[@Zakon673]

Just a comment about the fairy gym leader's nonsense trivia questions: they might be annoying, but it actually makes a lot of sense to me when you consider she's the Fairy-type gym leader. Fey in folklore are capricious and think in alien ways and are fond of unfair games played at the expense of others, so I thought it added a lot to her character to ask questions that you have no real way of knowing the answer to, or where the right answer is the opposite of what seems obvious like with her favorite color.

[@zavierlee695]

Have to agree. Also, it was kind of funny. I started giggling when the omelet question came up and I was penalized. The trainer even says something like "Wrong! Though I guess there isn't any way for you to have known that..." The penalty didn't matter anyway when you're oneshotting their pokemon.

[@XonixDerps]

Agreeing to both of yall as someone who enjoys folk tales and lore this one pretty funny to me. Kind of an : Ahhh I see whats going on here.. lol (except.. without the real threat of one going "Welp, im bored.. ill just burn you now"

[@cameronhector9074]

I think this is a great explanation, but it makes it sting more because if that was intended, a single NPC saying something to that effect would have been all that was needed. Instead, it feels random and unstructured.

[@kimetheus]

@@cameronhector9074 I agree with this mostly because whenever I played it I didn't even know about this. I'm not into folktale or anything, so them just never giving me a hint to what the hell was happening felt cheap and like it was punishing me for doing what I was taught up until that point. They could've easily made a little riddle with it with the person outside the gym or something saying along the lines of "fairies are tricksters you know" and then you realize oh fuck I'm getting these wrong because she's tricking me. I think her fight was just bad design and should've added a hint for people who don't care about folktales.

[@bamby7766]

​​@@kimetheusThen y'all would of complained about them hand feeding dialogue lol. It was pretty fucking obvious with what they were trying to convey especially with the literal NAMES of most fairy type moves. Can't win with pokemon fans lol.

[@TheLoneReni]

I just had a fun idea for spikemuths gym, what if all but one or two of your pokemon got stolen when you enter and you have to fight all the grunts to get your team back before the gym? And it's random which ones you get back so you have to really think about how best to traverse the terrain.

[@WatchUsReviewStuff]

Salt: “Who names their child after a verb” Also Salt: *character is named after a seasoning*

[@Ares9804]

Even worse: Sworddude and Shieldbert. Wow.

[@danielalorbi]

Salt can also be a verb. "I salted the meal", "I assaulted the child". ...wait

[@1tylersego1]

@@danielalorbi wait

[@matthewscottshea]

"Hop is pretty goddamn annoying!" Music to my ears.

[@EWOODJ]

...

[@Ghost7065]

Agreed

[@Patolagos]

How

[@TrisTime]

The one handed mode joke killed me, 10/10.

[@mekudu-man3804]

Same.

[@amberdenwukong8936]

I was hoping to find this comment

[@kevintreese4544]

A cool little detail that I want to mention is that if you get through the entire 6th gym without falling into any of the traps, the gym leader will actually comment on it and praise you. Not really a huge thing, but it’s a nice touch.

[@isidoreaerys8745]

Someone takes a steaming dump on your desk zips up their pants and confidently marches out of the room and you say “oh, I like the 💩 cone shape. It was a nice touch”.