The Sinatraa Sexual Assault Allegations Explained Pt. 2

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@theScoreesports
@theScoreesports 3 жыл бұрын
Quick clarification: At 7:07, we mistakenly dated our previous video July 7, 2021 -- that video was from last year and we released it on July 7, 2020.
@zoramajora5893
@zoramajora5893 3 жыл бұрын
You're not time travelers?? I feel lied to 🥺
@JJviniciuss
@JJviniciuss 3 жыл бұрын
Stop with the fake news, we know you guys have time-travelers
@heyitstiesey
@heyitstiesey 3 жыл бұрын
wait whats gonna happen on july 7, 2021??? is this a sign?
@khievvivadh8214
@khievvivadh8214 3 жыл бұрын
U missed the part where Sinatraa went Complicated A lie
@crinklecutchipscringe9167
@crinklecutchipscringe9167 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong, I know time travellers when I see them
@eruptic6503
@eruptic6503 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda ironic that Riot is investigating this case yet many of their employees have come out saying that they had been sexually assaulted by coworkers.
@Underground.Rabbit
@Underground.Rabbit 3 жыл бұрын
Its one big horseshit. We really need to distinguish sexual harassment and vulgar flirtation. One childish move and the man is canceled completely now.
@peacockts
@peacockts 3 жыл бұрын
@@Underground.Rabbit yikes
@Christopher-gd2nm
@Christopher-gd2nm 3 жыл бұрын
@@Underground.Rabbit i think raping someone repeatedly is more than "one childish move"
@Underground.Rabbit
@Underground.Rabbit 3 жыл бұрын
@@Christopher-gd2nm lmaoo was talking about Riot. Prove that about sinatraa too he is innocent until proven guilty. Audio clip is open for interpretations and remember this fact doesnt care about your feelings.
@yuqfps3299
@yuqfps3299 3 жыл бұрын
@@Underground.Rabbit yikes
@ziq1450
@ziq1450 3 жыл бұрын
i just wanna imagine sinatraa in court going "your honor im not even trolling, i didnt" "your honor this guys braindead no cap"
@Knitrokr
@Knitrokr 2 жыл бұрын
xD
@I_brake_4_children
@I_brake_4_children 2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@arkantalebi5519
@arkantalebi5519 2 жыл бұрын
XD
@melviness4769
@melviness4769 2 жыл бұрын
On God 💀💀💀
@HappyVLR
@HappyVLR 2 жыл бұрын
xd
@rebucgnimagla5521
@rebucgnimagla5521 3 жыл бұрын
I think we shouldn’t flame sinatraa or Cleo until the investigation is finished.
@heyitstiesey
@heyitstiesey 3 жыл бұрын
exactly. they could easily be false accusations or they could be real. it's hard to know until we get further info from official investigators.
@chimosgameclub9765
@chimosgameclub9765 3 жыл бұрын
So I'm in generel "Guilty until proven not" But the recording is public, and it is not for the faint of hearts. Even if found not guilty. I wouldn't like cheering for a team he is on
@waynejia9322
@waynejia9322 3 жыл бұрын
@@chimosgameclub9765 the saying goes innocent until proven guilty...its how court works bud.
@amai-w8f
@amai-w8f 3 жыл бұрын
@@chimosgameclub9765 i think you dropped some braincells here sir
@unpinned
@unpinned 3 жыл бұрын
@@chimosgameclub9765 🤨👉🚪
@user-hr3om7jy5o
@user-hr3om7jy5o 3 жыл бұрын
I find it kinda funny how he was playing ranked and typing to all the streamers and stuff that one night
@Luukv.L
@Luukv.L 3 жыл бұрын
The document was also last editted like 10 days before she released it, she was litteraly waiting for Jay to make noise again so she could instantly take him down again lmfao
@oasis7908
@oasis7908 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Yeah I i is
@mist2057
@mist2057 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luukv.L fr?
@Luukv.L
@Luukv.L 3 жыл бұрын
@@mist2057 yea if you go to the document and hover over something topleft you could see it
@Yukiyak0
@Yukiyak0 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luukv.L maybe she edited typos?
@kromzilla3781
@kromzilla3781 3 жыл бұрын
Posting a picture of a random dollar amount sent and saying "it was for my plan B" is about as credible as me posting a pic of my stimulus check and saying "Biden sent me this for hookers and cocaine"
@meta.5848
@meta.5848 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@keylon4518
@keylon4518 3 жыл бұрын
fr and its $60 plan b isn't $60. wanna know what is? a triple a video game
@DerpDave_
@DerpDave_ 3 жыл бұрын
Im dead
@rodmunduruca2587
@rodmunduruca2587 3 жыл бұрын
@@keylon4518 plan b is 60$ u doffs
@legatelanius1103
@legatelanius1103 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodmunduruca2587 if only your mother had $60 back then
@0Wizard
@0Wizard 3 жыл бұрын
Yet they think Twitter publicity is justice?
@rainystormy6128
@rainystormy6128 3 жыл бұрын
Accusing people on social media just doesnt work. Just go to court ffs then announce it when there is a verdict.
@MrInosensei
@MrInosensei 3 жыл бұрын
That's the problem social media is not the platform for these kind of issues. There are multiple non-profit organizations and proper authorities that help and deal with these kind of problems.
@ALLAHwithdaughterALLAT
@ALLAHwithdaughterALLAT 3 жыл бұрын
PEASANT SINATRA FANGAYS hahah
@ALLAHwithdaughterALLAT
@ALLAHwithdaughterALLAT 3 жыл бұрын
peasant GAYme hahah
@tebble3674
@tebble3674 3 жыл бұрын
That mentality is dumb. Like hell nah twitter only makes it worse
@skull123
@skull123 3 жыл бұрын
This man did more hand gestures than I ever did in my life.
@Weiss640_
@Weiss640_ 3 жыл бұрын
lmaoooo i just noticed
@seamoose1731
@seamoose1731 3 жыл бұрын
it's official. tiktok is the culprit
@jackojuice8691
@jackojuice8691 3 жыл бұрын
facts
@DJMoth03
@DJMoth03 3 жыл бұрын
ew tiktok
@prillist
@prillist 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah even tho tiktok doesn’t even know who Sinatra is
@yunix9269
@yunix9269 3 жыл бұрын
@@DJMoth03 watch tiktok and you'll get addicted
@LeBornMajes
@LeBornMajes 3 жыл бұрын
@@yunix9269 i didn't, i got bored after 20 minutes then deleted it
@timothychan97
@timothychan97 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing I can't believe is how Overwatch pulled his MVP skin and said they would not be making any more MVP skins after this, before any investigations happened. If the allegations aren't true, they would've invalidated his achievements in the game for nothing.
@puppywoofr
@puppywoofr 3 жыл бұрын
They havent pulled the skin. I still have/use it. They're offering refunds for those who want them, however I havent looked into it to figure out how. As of right now, people who purchased the skin still have it and can use it in game.
@timothychan97
@timothychan97 3 жыл бұрын
@@puppywoofr ah I see, I guess I assumed they pulled his skin when they offered refunds for it.. thanks for the clarification!
@Alex.af.Nordheim
@Alex.af.Nordheim 3 жыл бұрын
@@puppywoofr they removed the badges on the skin tho, and I doubt they'll add them back even if he's proven innocent
@maskimgalgo2046
@maskimgalgo2046 3 жыл бұрын
@@fiawms that age like milk bro. SJW !? More like full on sex offenders
@malazan6004
@malazan6004 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to society for men in 2021
@fahimmosharrof7209
@fahimmosharrof7209 3 жыл бұрын
Yes 2021, the year when actual sexual assault allegations are twitter fights. Good job everyone
@aakash950
@aakash950 3 жыл бұрын
hahahha but what was the year when that actual thing took place
@nelsonyou4638
@nelsonyou4638 3 жыл бұрын
* 2020 2
@murraystenhouse8469
@murraystenhouse8469 3 жыл бұрын
The police are already involved, but when dealing with public figures the media side of things is extremely important so that (assuming it's true) they lose their position of power.
@diggy3059
@diggy3059 3 жыл бұрын
@@nelsonyou4638 the twitter argument is 2021
@darthvader3946
@darthvader3946 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Sinatraa watching these videos 😂
@DoubleDown310
@DoubleDown310 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Sinatraa replying "First" in the comment section 😆
@wynot999
@wynot999 3 жыл бұрын
sinatraa responded to the story of sinatraa video soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@torn4do703
@torn4do703 3 жыл бұрын
I am
@harimahmed2260
@harimahmed2260 3 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't he watch them? This is a big channel
@denzel444
@denzel444 3 жыл бұрын
He probably is watching to be honest
@crinklecutchipscringe9167
@crinklecutchipscringe9167 3 жыл бұрын
I think these things should just go straight to court and be handled there, stupid to get randos involved and let them comment and react. I think victims should, assuming they have the money to do so, rather approach law enforcement, if they want to destroy the accused's reputation, a court case will do that too.
@bernardeugenio
@bernardeugenio 3 жыл бұрын
cleo filed the police report according to this video.
@asdfkjhlk34
@asdfkjhlk34 3 жыл бұрын
Sexual assault victims rarely are able to get proper legal recourse though
@darthasavage7213
@darthasavage7213 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this should be law.. people are being punished too harshly for one side of the argument, when were supposed to be innocent until proven guilty
@crinklecutchipscringe9167
@crinklecutchipscringe9167 3 жыл бұрын
@@bernardeugenio That's great, I hope justice unfolds
@crinklecutchipscringe9167
@crinklecutchipscringe9167 3 жыл бұрын
@@asdfkjhlk34 Yeah I thought of that, it sucks that the system doesn't always work, hopefully in the future it improves. Even if they don't win the case, a case against someone with a following about something as serious as this is bound to damage their reputation. Especially if there is proper evidence behind it as there is here. My main reasoning for why I think they shouldn't take it online is that the backlash they could receive could cause them extreme distress, I think they should rather try with court and stay offline to help their own emotional and mental state.
@Jesus-oh6nb
@Jesus-oh6nb 3 жыл бұрын
I literally only found out about this dude this morning not by his allegations but this channels entrance of him. And then 15 minuetes after watching the video I see the first video of the allegations, I just got out of the shower and I see this uploaded 20 minuetes ago. First impressions am I right?
@HiddeNinja89
@HiddeNinja89 3 жыл бұрын
That surprising since he's a popular esports figure.
@trepstechs5119
@trepstechs5119 3 жыл бұрын
@@HiddeNinja89 not that popular my guy, everyone plays different games and watch/pay attention different gaming community, not everyone pays attention to valorant
@youngcitybandit
@youngcitybandit 3 жыл бұрын
@@trepstechs5119 i feel like players like faker and s1mple are big enough for most esport fans to know. Sinatraa isn't as big as their names but still is big enough fof people to know without playing OW and val
@trepstechs5119
@trepstechs5119 3 жыл бұрын
@@youngcitybandit not really since OW isnt as big or popular as many other esports game genre out there and valorant is just growing atm so expect most people to not know who are the current people whos playing pro in em.
@pauli7911
@pauli7911 3 жыл бұрын
minuetes
@jojomaho
@jojomaho 3 жыл бұрын
Was it a coincidence that his ex suddenly posted a part 2 of the accusations, when there was a rumor of him playing valo again?
@crazymcjesus
@crazymcjesus 3 жыл бұрын
Who cares regardless
@mist2057
@mist2057 3 жыл бұрын
And shitting on his current girlfriend. She is not helping her case.
@karlf1507
@karlf1507 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazymcjesus everyone
@Yukiyak0
@Yukiyak0 3 жыл бұрын
I dont understand your point?
@1431-y7g
@1431-y7g 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazymcjesus then you probably just wasted 10 mins on a vid about a topic you don't give a shit about or whot
@Alex-------
@Alex------- 3 жыл бұрын
When you spend all your character points on hand movements
@rumham315
@rumham315 3 жыл бұрын
this is funny
@eatrocks6704
@eatrocks6704 3 жыл бұрын
tierzoo?
@Rico-ug1vv
@Rico-ug1vv 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! Super distracting!
@LarkinDowling
@LarkinDowling 3 жыл бұрын
Who ever is guilty is guilty but it is kinda fishy that she decides to put out a part 2 right when rumors that he’s playing Val again
@biggiecheese17
@biggiecheese17 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and there is no way he would throw away his entire career just to coom bro
@aterriblefuze9540
@aterriblefuze9540 3 жыл бұрын
This is very suspicious. Also, why would any sane individual not take legal action on this? Posting it on Twitter sounds like a cheap way to gain publicity.
@LarkinDowling
@LarkinDowling 3 жыл бұрын
@@biggiecheese17 lol didn’t know the pope liked valorant
@unbeatable617
@unbeatable617 3 жыл бұрын
Of course she would, if he actually abused and assaulted her she wants to ruin his life, that's the point of making it public
@aterriblefuze9540
@aterriblefuze9540 3 жыл бұрын
@@unbeatable617 Or she could have done this in a selfish attempt to kill a career for selfish means.
@jackbrax7808
@jackbrax7808 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind everyone that in law there is a principle called “innocent until proven guilty” and “evident beyond a reasonable doubt.” We will never know enough details to really have a complete picture no matter how damning the evidence seems. Let the cops and organization deal with this.
@patrickcooke577
@patrickcooke577 3 жыл бұрын
True. I'm sick of ppl destroying his reputation, I can't imagine being in his shoes
@jackbrax7808
@jackbrax7808 3 жыл бұрын
@@dinisgoncalves3744 Idk. That’s why I make zero calls.
@dtester
@dtester 3 жыл бұрын
@@dinisgoncalves3744 The current evidence isn't that strong yet if you view it without bias. We still need more info.
@xanderwyatt8234
@xanderwyatt8234 3 жыл бұрын
@@dinisgoncalves3744 what about it seems obvious? It honestly seems more suspicious that she releases more info after he's supposedly playing Val with pros again and is going to twitter before authorities.
@Someone-is4lx
@Someone-is4lx 3 жыл бұрын
@@xanderwyatt8234 keep in mind that the last time she edited the document was 10 days before she released it and she deleted it later on and she spent like 75% of the document making herself look like the victim and trying to get people's sympathy
@ando_ow
@ando_ow 3 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that that esports want to be so much close to sports but no way a ronaldo or any other famous sport player just get suspended by a twitter post without a judge involving
@kannakun3258
@kannakun3258 3 жыл бұрын
No one under the age of 25 cares about soccer tho. Old people sport, and basically has no future lmao.
@shallter455
@shallter455 3 жыл бұрын
@@kannakun3258 so many people love this sport and are under 25 lol your clearly American
@heyitstiesey
@heyitstiesey 3 жыл бұрын
elaborate?
@kannakun3258
@kannakun3258 3 жыл бұрын
@@shallter455 No, im german. No one under the age of 25 cares at all, even here whetr soccer is big. The sports dead in under 15 years.
@shallter455
@shallter455 3 жыл бұрын
@@kannakun3258 wtf is soccer you clearly have no friends if you think this sport is dying or have never been to another country other then Germany, many people love this sport and play it football is still the most played sport in England and Brazil and legit every one in my school who was set 1 for pe had been in a football club before and we played football at lunchtime and played fifa it is a massive thing here and other European countries
@lee-nv2xs
@lee-nv2xs 3 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand why they put these kinds of situations on social media, its so stupid.
@Someone-is4lx
@Someone-is4lx 3 жыл бұрын
Clout
@aoi5170
@aoi5170 3 жыл бұрын
Cleo is lying and just wants clout, simple.
@bruhmk6971
@bruhmk6971 3 жыл бұрын
@@aoi5170 you want some clout 😏
@TheRealNickG
@TheRealNickG 3 жыл бұрын
@@aoi5170 Yep. If they want to change my mind they need to get the police to make a statement. If she has turned him in and he is under a REAL investigation, then that changes things. She thinks this is a SCOTUS hearing talking about shit 40 years ago. Nah, beotch, this JUST happened. I say she should hand all of her evidence over to the police and BOTH of them made to cooperate with the proper authorities. This disingenuous "internal investigation" crap is just stupid.
@MissNymwhen
@MissNymwhen 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruhmk6971 this is just so stupid. Just name ONE person who this had a positive effect on their carreer. Yes in the short run they get some headlines but in the long run no extra “clout” and they do this because u winning a case is hard when its about domestic abuse. They may also want to warn people. A streamer is in a huge position of power.
@hanjeyoung9348
@hanjeyoung9348 3 жыл бұрын
Really wish false sexual assault/rape accusations come with jail time or at the very least a fine. Most people that go through that shit can't recover for a few years at best.
@tallerstond8105
@tallerstond8105 3 жыл бұрын
pretty sure they do
@Dixie_normous22
@Dixie_normous22 3 жыл бұрын
they do.
@AvengedKittyLP
@AvengedKittyLP 3 жыл бұрын
tallerstond not in the UK or US since the DA/Judges don't prosecute
@jmiod2819
@jmiod2819 3 жыл бұрын
Youre saying it as if the case is closed and that cleo lied tf??
@oister1658
@oister1658 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the NairoMK allegations from the Super Smash scene
@andrewcui1124
@andrewcui1124 3 жыл бұрын
for some reason i can only see his hand motions wtf
@torn4do703
@torn4do703 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy moves his hand too much
@andreyllosa9106
@andreyllosa9106 3 жыл бұрын
yeah still distracting af
@Underground.Rabbit
@Underground.Rabbit 3 жыл бұрын
Acting like a journalist or some shit. It looks fake and forced.
@emilwitten2472
@emilwitten2472 3 жыл бұрын
Facts please stop
@strategicinsomniac5607
@strategicinsomniac5607 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently they are speaking to us from the future: 7:05 They are telling us what they will post in July of this year haha.
@Casquero18
@Casquero18 3 жыл бұрын
damn, they are predicting
@Thanos23
@Thanos23 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf!! X-files music on the backround 😱🪐
@Casquero18
@Casquero18 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thanos23 omg pog
@Rob.Brown13
@Rob.Brown13 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the shit was actually sent to the police or a lawyer, instead of just posted on twitter. Shit might actually get done. This shit is just stupid... Let the law deal with it and the courts do their job. Twitter is not the way to solve any of this and shouldn't be on the platform or any platform.
@Noridademon
@Noridademon 3 жыл бұрын
3 months later she doesn’t show up to court lmao
@somegalulbad642
@somegalulbad642 3 жыл бұрын
@@Noridademon hella fishy fr
@lifenote1943
@lifenote1943 3 жыл бұрын
There’s not enough proof for a court case so this is literally her only option
@cholovelasco6752
@cholovelasco6752 3 жыл бұрын
There was not enough proof because al the proofs given are one sided only. It's always like this when it comes to women ( I am in no way trying to justify this madness of abuse I am explaining facts) only their side are correct. You'll never know if this is just like the woman who accused 2 athletes of gang raping her and admitted she just didn't want to look bad to the guy she likes that's why she couldn't admit she takes it by 2s. :V
@dhwi5780
@dhwi5780 2 жыл бұрын
bro they want fame
@athena1289x
@athena1289x 3 жыл бұрын
Until we get as much of the picture as we can, let's just leave Cleo and Jay alone.
@Tommy0220
@Tommy0220 3 жыл бұрын
Drama always comes from discord. When will they learn ?
@malcolmkyeremeh5444
@malcolmkyeremeh5444 3 жыл бұрын
^ fr lmao, and the mfs dont ever even cover their tracks
@megatrolllol8164
@megatrolllol8164 3 жыл бұрын
just hope they don't lol
@SavageSimba
@SavageSimba 3 жыл бұрын
Google discord definition
@olivia-mm7pi
@olivia-mm7pi 3 жыл бұрын
WTF? how about instead of men learning where not to SA, they learn not to do it all together
@okawarito7031
@okawarito7031 3 жыл бұрын
@@olivia-mm7pihow about not writing "all man"?
@ifiig8220
@ifiig8220 3 жыл бұрын
Let the legal process decide. If she had real evidence it doesn't make sense to put it on Twitter instead of taking it to a lawyer.
@chickennoodles8845
@chickennoodles8845 3 жыл бұрын
I agree but I think half of it is for the clout
@niet3191
@niet3191 3 жыл бұрын
She probably wouldn't win in court so she wants to ruin his reputation and career
@chickennoodles8845
@chickennoodles8845 3 жыл бұрын
@UCJpUDe6PSQIqCMu_k08U7Ew yea and the audio clip is laughable if you guys look at it
@chickennoodles8845
@chickennoodles8845 3 жыл бұрын
@UCJpUDe6PSQIqCMu_k08U7Ew what the why is ur name like that
@joshxzy
@joshxzy 3 жыл бұрын
Now the Waiting Game begins.
@TheBullet0012
@TheBullet0012 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.. This might drag out for quite a while.. We'll have to wait for the investigation to finish first..
@pol44r
@pol44r 3 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me he recorded the video then sent her it but she won't post the entire vid ?
@acarith8494
@acarith8494 3 жыл бұрын
Thats indeed what seems to have happened. Maybe there was something she didnt want to show? I have no clue
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 3 жыл бұрын
@@acarith8494 tbh seems insanely sus, if she was not dying, why would she not want to show all of it?
@amrfleder
@amrfleder 3 жыл бұрын
@@d4s0n282 maybe because it’s something super personal that she doesn’t want the public to see? is the audio clip she released not enough
@Oky1y
@Oky1y 3 жыл бұрын
@@amrfleder when it comes to something that involves law you don’t just hide something that important so there is probably something sus
@blackhand8299
@blackhand8299 3 жыл бұрын
@@amrfleder It could have been out of context ya dingus
@purpleglitz
@purpleglitz 3 жыл бұрын
he really said "is it cuz i'm ugly" ??? how much more of an insecure pick-me guy can you get, dude has no trust in his girlfriend at the time
@templarexemplar35
@templarexemplar35 3 жыл бұрын
Dude is literally a child but has a huge ego cuz he won owl
@purpleglitz
@purpleglitz 3 жыл бұрын
@@templarexemplar35 yikes he needs a personality change
@purpleglitz
@purpleglitz 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigrob0555 nah the way he talks has manipulative tendencies, especially to a girl who idolizes him. it wouldn’t be surprising if he did take advantage in that case.
@purpleglitz
@purpleglitz 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigrob0555 she said in her longer that she was and she also got an iud for him, no girl is getting an iud for just anyone, that shit hurts. but her saying stop when he knows she goes to the hospital for it still wasn’t enough hmmm
@scottiye1452
@scottiye1452 3 жыл бұрын
@@purpleglitz dude chill we do not jump into conclusions until both sides plus it not ur matter its the police matter not urs
@vdb2192
@vdb2192 3 жыл бұрын
the hands just don't stop
@Ian-hw9nn
@Ian-hw9nn 3 жыл бұрын
Some people do it so it helps them speak clearly
@aesie1229
@aesie1229 3 жыл бұрын
fr wtf ☠️he moving his hands so much 😂
@DominickDecocko
@DominickDecocko 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ian-hw9nn pretentious and low quality move.
@K_J_Coleman_Composer
@K_J_Coleman_Composer 3 жыл бұрын
She: submits allegations publicly on Twitter. He: submits apology publicly on Twitter. She: You don't apologize, why didn't you do this in private?? Sounds like someone trying hard to make him look bad
@narrow3601
@narrow3601 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, not saying Sinatraa is automatically innocent but I'm just saying that that did look like she was trying to make him look bad there
@xythiera7255
@xythiera7255 3 жыл бұрын
@@narrow3601 Nothing happened so he is.inmocent . Just a jelouse ex who cant stand he does great in live .
@narrow3601
@narrow3601 3 жыл бұрын
@@xythiera7255 cool
@tbone9474
@tbone9474 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I don't go for permanent relationships anymore, more than happy being a single father
@fyeaaaaa
@fyeaaaaa 3 жыл бұрын
Happy for you mate
@silverplayer7502
@silverplayer7502 3 жыл бұрын
More power to you man
@good-ol-cam
@good-ol-cam 3 жыл бұрын
Ur pfp brings back a lot of nostalgia
@tbone9474
@tbone9474 3 жыл бұрын
@@good-ol-cam my way of seeing people of my generation;)
@purplewine7362
@purplewine7362 3 жыл бұрын
just accept that no means no and you won't have such a problem in a relationship ever
@Dumbo_Dumbo
@Dumbo_Dumbo 3 жыл бұрын
"Pt. 2" but literally half of the video is the same thing we already heard in part 1. Why?
@grs3579
@grs3579 3 жыл бұрын
Lol i thought i was the only one that believed this. This video is totally useless, the battle of the girlfriends part could have been a 2 3 min part in a proper video once we got Sinatraa's response, they are milking this topic so much and it's so frustrating tbh
@rocker10039
@rocker10039 3 жыл бұрын
Milk that $$$. That's why
@burger406
@burger406 3 жыл бұрын
7:07 that a video coming out in 3 months?
@1ahs921
@1ahs921 3 жыл бұрын
LOL nice catch
@seannoller5557
@seannoller5557 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even see that LOL
@pikaguifalbets7205
@pikaguifalbets7205 3 жыл бұрын
we time travelling today boys
@hotdallogg8902
@hotdallogg8902 3 жыл бұрын
no it was a typo. they meant to type 2020, not 2021 ;)
@tempesttries
@tempesttries 3 жыл бұрын
I think Sinatra might be getting cleared soon. With TenZ playing Raze for Sen it feels like they’re setting up for Sinatra to come back into the roster
@InternetAntagonist
@InternetAntagonist 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I feel like this is all a setup
@gabogantiel6421
@gabogantiel6421 3 жыл бұрын
Who will they bench
@tempesttries
@tempesttries 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabogantiel6421 TenZ cause he's on loan from c9
@Someone-is4lx
@Someone-is4lx 3 жыл бұрын
@@tempesttries doubt it, they have to make him play on the team as much as they can to take advantage of the loan
@LoneBeastYT
@LoneBeastYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@Someone-is4lx loans have expiry dates, tenz's loan was supposed to expire before the vct, dunno if they renewed the contract or c9 decided to extend the contract out of pity.
@hourglass4208
@hourglass4208 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody knows what happened besides those two. Period.
@elk7308
@elk7308 3 жыл бұрын
The texts show that in response to cleo saying she doesn't always want to have sex and sometimes just wants to cuddle, his response is to sulk and throw himself a pity party to try to guilt her into sex. Emotionally manipulative shit like that is enough to make me believe her over him
@unreale2695
@unreale2695 3 жыл бұрын
Those texts could be so easily faked.
@elk7308
@elk7308 3 жыл бұрын
@@unreale2695 Indeed they could but considering the lack of evidence to back that up so far we have to take it at face value
@oxozy
@oxozy 3 жыл бұрын
Bro u fr believe the 2nd doc? The texts compared to the context she gave it doesn't make any fucking sense, and you can literally see in the texts shes trying her hardest to look like the victim, its clear as day she is lying atleast on the 2nd doc.
@elk7308
@elk7308 3 жыл бұрын
@@oxozy There were text matching that exact behaviour in the original document too. Based on what we’ve seen so far, best case scenario: your man is an insecure baby: worst case scenario; your man is an emotionally manipulative sex pest
@railguncs
@railguncs 3 жыл бұрын
@@elk7308 u have any real proofs and you already make conclussions? wtf
@LukBacca
@LukBacca 3 жыл бұрын
She said she would kill herself if he left her implying he wanted to leave her and she blackmailed him saying she would kill herself if he did, idk but this sounds like a fucked up relationship which involved lots of shitty things on both sides its a bit unfair of her to try to put all of it onto Jay and try to purposefully ruin his reputation out of spite.
@cokxi
@cokxi 3 жыл бұрын
its been around 8 months... i tried looking through different sites to see an update about this but couldn't find any... but what truly disgusted me was that there were streamers who tried step on top of sinatraa to boost their social status by saying that if they were sinatraa they would never do that... i fking know that people dont do that and it goes against the law and moral values... its a given that you cant do that... wtf are they tryna prove by saying "if it were me, I wouldn't do that..." and the funny part was that they didnt even knew what happened and were not present there to witness it at all... i hate pretentious streamers...
@teyvattravelguide8555
@teyvattravelguide8555 2 жыл бұрын
if were just talking about sexual assault MYTH would more likely be guilty than SINATRAA
@mori0
@mori0 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the Update
@milo-ur8zp
@milo-ur8zp 3 жыл бұрын
go crash some mc servers
@mori0
@mori0 3 жыл бұрын
@@milo-ur8zp oke
@myles_1x
@myles_1x 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying Sinatraa sexually assualted her but the second he gets big he's sexually assualted me its a constant loop and this "cancel culture" is very bad for the twitch community and valorant community
@haterhater6409
@haterhater6409 3 жыл бұрын
Yo real talk, I don't get posting a second set of information. Logistically any information presented in a second post would already be given if to authorities in cooperating in the investigation. I could see one accusation on Twitter as an act of bravery or something maybe. But going to Twitter a second time seems unprofessional when a professional investigation is being lodged at the claims.
@Someone-is4lx
@Someone-is4lx 3 жыл бұрын
She even took it down later on, she knows what she did was wrong
@growl744
@growl744 3 жыл бұрын
all ill say is I went from 100% believing cle0 to more of a "I will wait to see what the investigation concludes".
@aoi5170
@aoi5170 3 жыл бұрын
shes so sus, she refuses to share the whole vid fir no reason.
@arunahhh
@arunahhh 3 жыл бұрын
@@aoi5170 Ikr and if she even was the victim then why post it on social media? Plus when she replied to emmy's tiktok (sinatraa's current girlfriend) she said that she was silent cuz she was scared that "nobody would believe her" which is obviously very suspicious and makes me think that she is lying.
@andrevarian3744
@andrevarian3744 3 жыл бұрын
​@@aoi5170 but the other people might say that open up about "sexual abuse/harass" is not easy, thats why she doesnt want to share the vid. but it is wise for people to NOT so FAST in taking side. just listen and be silent until everything is proven. especially in todays world where even an accidental touch could make a person screams in pain.
@Hummabubba
@Hummabubba 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine trying to discredit someone coming forward about being sexually and emotionally abused by calling them toxic in video game lmao
@zobeysworld
@zobeysworld 3 жыл бұрын
literally
@dazed3881
@dazed3881 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the update lol
@heyitstiesey
@heyitstiesey 3 жыл бұрын
lol(1)
@gabbawesome1267
@gabbawesome1267 3 жыл бұрын
lol(2)
@maxstauder5035
@maxstauder5035 3 жыл бұрын
lol(3)
@xJunee
@xJunee 3 жыл бұрын
lol(4)
@rhayafayza7839
@rhayafayza7839 3 жыл бұрын
lol(6)
@JasonSab849
@JasonSab849 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the dev1ce video?
@vstuden
@vstuden 3 жыл бұрын
Soon
@PotatoGawds
@PotatoGawds 3 жыл бұрын
What happened with dev1ce?
@farisabyan9325
@farisabyan9325 3 жыл бұрын
@@PotatoGawds he has been transfered to NIP i think
@applejuice6921
@applejuice6921 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa whoa whoa. Why the fuck am I hearing about this just now. That's nuts
@heyitstiesey
@heyitstiesey 3 жыл бұрын
@@applejuice6921 check hltv
@jym2r
@jym2r 3 жыл бұрын
she even deleted her 2nd tweet about this... she knows shes done for
@PsychophantFR
@PsychophantFR 3 жыл бұрын
We know she’s lying, I want Jay back to streaming!
@Jxyyyyyyyyyyf
@Jxyyyyyyyyyyf 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dixie_normous22 That's the exact opposite of what a logical person thinks. Literally it's innocent until proven guilty. You're saying it should be backwards? I'm going to accuse you of raping me on twitter then and you should have to prove that you didn't which is basically literally impossible because the most you can do is say "I didn't rape this person". People lie about sexual assault all the time. Educate yourself my friend. The reason people lie about it is because it's hard to prove that you DIDN'T do it.
@Gimu_san
@Gimu_san 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dixie_normous22 so by your logic, anybody can accuse you of the same sexual harassments against women and therefore, you’re also guilty until proven innocent
@fadhilh3931
@fadhilh3931 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dixie_normous22 stoopid
@obi1011
@obi1011 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dixie_normous22 damn, why would you even take the side of someone in this. Last time I checked doesn't have to do anything with you. You just don't take the side of anyone until the justice does. That's why false rape accusations are so recurrent in society because of people like you who mind of other people businesses
@TRuFIRE456
@TRuFIRE456 3 жыл бұрын
Cle0h deleted the second document today and supposedly her twitter
@jackojuice8691
@jackojuice8691 3 жыл бұрын
haha bimbo e-girl surrenders the high ground
@xMassPownagEx
@xMassPownagEx 3 жыл бұрын
That's An omegalul.
@idrkwtv
@idrkwtv 3 жыл бұрын
oh, that's why I couldn't find her account
@manymoonsago3909
@manymoonsago3909 3 жыл бұрын
but she didn't...?
@LolLol-nf2hj
@LolLol-nf2hj 3 жыл бұрын
The “l” in her username is a capital letter “i”. That’s why people can’t find her twitter.
@fake_giorno7661
@fake_giorno7661 3 жыл бұрын
Weird thing is, why right now, why did cleo just accuse Jay of sexual assault right before VCT masters, sus
@johanneseure6761
@johanneseure6761 3 жыл бұрын
She was mad cause Sinatraa responded publicly and not in private when she was the one who started the whole situation in public when she could have talked to him personally. I really think she wants attention
@kerolinian1182
@kerolinian1182 3 жыл бұрын
5head
@niet3191
@niet3191 3 жыл бұрын
Just a straight up a "He said she said" drama. Sinatraa can't play even though its not proven
@sirkiz1181
@sirkiz1181 3 жыл бұрын
Well usually people don’t just make up sexual assault accusations. There are rare cases of that happening, but there is ALMOST always some abuse that went on.
@sirkiz1181
@sirkiz1181 3 жыл бұрын
@Yuju Waterbottle Both are those things are false. False reporting is a crime, especially if the person falsely accused ends up going or jail. It depends on how many you mean by “a lot”. Are there a couple hundred, sure. But there are hundreds of thousand of real rape accusations. The chance of an accusation being competent made up is probably not even a percent chance.
@sirkiz1181
@sirkiz1181 3 жыл бұрын
@Yuju Waterbottle I looked it up and according to the FBI, approximately 8 percent of rape accusations are false. That’s still fairly low, and additionally, only about 5 percent of fake accusations actually caused the accused to be arrested. That’s means they the chance of being arrested for a false rape accusation is .4 percent. It is possible that Sinatra isn’t guilty, and it is impossible to tell right now. But there is a police investigation so we will see what happens.
@Nobody-su9km
@Nobody-su9km 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirkiz1181 false report is actually a adm crime not a const crime, meanning it's not payed by jail time, it's payed with money, and only IF you actually sue the person, otherwise there is no real punishment, and wtf is going on with people and FBI? FBI don't give a fuck about sexual abuse acusations, they only handle real SERIOUS acusation so OF COURSE most of it is true, you are taking source in the wrong places brother... The false acusations most of the time are droped mid investigation in local polices or don't even get out of the 911 call.
@sirkiz1181
@sirkiz1181 3 жыл бұрын
@Yuju Waterbottle As I said, only 5 percent of false accusations even lead to anyone getting arrested, let alone convicted. I do agree that the societal consequences are very unfortunate. Unfortunately, there isn’t really much to do about it. I 100% percent support people who falsely accuse others being put in jail. They are a detriment to everyone, as people become less inclined to believe real victims and they can ruin the lives of the accused. But schools or businesses not wanting to associate with someone being accused of rape is pretty understandable. Arguably there should be a law that prohibits businesses from firing people related to potential crimes until they have been found guilty, but that would be difficult to enforce.
@camkraw893
@camkraw893 3 жыл бұрын
I think we can all agree on one thing. This was a hella toxic relationship
@FlukeyFuzzNutz
@FlukeyFuzzNutz 2 жыл бұрын
I find it stupid that she wasn’t comfortable but she still stayed with him in a relationship, which I find really weird…
@clement7872
@clement7872 3 жыл бұрын
not jumping to any conclusions or anything, but whoever was in the wrong, either sinatraa or cleo, i hope they get thoroughly punished. Sinatra’s career is clearly over if he is found guilty, but if the accusations were fake, she’s honestly guilty for preventing sinatraa from playing in VCT and should be punshied for that.
@ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018
@ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018 3 жыл бұрын
She won't. The world is full of simps and thots
@sycual
@sycual 3 жыл бұрын
ngl, i think and HOPE sinaatra didn't do all this. His ex's posts are really not connecting dots tbh
@cameronn1891
@cameronn1891 3 жыл бұрын
Idk what dots there are to connect...the audio clip literally has Sinatra refusing to stop when she told him no over and over again. That’s sexual assault, all the other stuff could be he said, she said, but that audio clip is the clearest evidence she could’ve possibly provided. Stop idolizing these guys, at the end of the day they’re just guys who play video games just like everybody else. Learn to accept that just because somebody is really good at a video game, it doesn’t mean they’re a good person too. Even without the blatant sexual assault, the other chat logs and toxic behavior should be enough for you to not respect him anymore. If you think that’s acceptable, then be my guest and defend this dude all you want, but just from those things alone I can’t respect the guy.
@Ginocide02
@Ginocide02 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameronn1891 idk if you've ever experienced the touch of a woman but using that tone of voice is NOT how they say "no" lmfao.
@ezaurmum
@ezaurmum 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameronn1891 yes good point but the being toxic part aren't all gamers like that? I am myself 95% of Online gamers are
@knk7065
@knk7065 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameronn1891 the audio was recorded by jay and it Cleo only wants to release a small part of the audio it’s kinda getting fishy now and the bullying accusations are 100% true aswell so she has already lied
@johannbuere
@johannbuere 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameronn1891 why should I respect this guy? I don’t know him! What we are talking about here is the allegation to be proven guilty or not. If he did do it shame on him and if he didn’t shame on the girl. If need more reminder a woman saying NO when having intercourse might also be her own thing like a kink or something and we have no clue if it is. Had this same reaction with my girlfriend and I got scared for second but she said it was her thing so I just continued under the pre-text that saying while doing it was okay for us but I made sure to be gentle so I could at least lessen the pain if there was one.
@quantensprung9520
@quantensprung9520 3 жыл бұрын
what a disgusting mudslinging. either it's a sad attempt to cancel someone via social media. if cleo was serious she would have sued/indicted him. something like this shouldn't be aired in public.
@nathanhosea489
@nathanhosea489 3 жыл бұрын
For all the people out there who are consistently following this case, do not jump to conclusions until more evidence is revealed.
@doncorleon8104
@doncorleon8104 3 жыл бұрын
This girl went public destroying everything he worked for and after he made a public statement responding she gets mad at him for not reaching out to her privately??? ight lmao
@ducksarepeople
@ducksarepeople 3 жыл бұрын
“Unlucky, really.” - Steel
@Kuneho
@Kuneho 3 жыл бұрын
💥🌎
@casthor64
@casthor64 3 жыл бұрын
If I was Sinatra and I was declared innocent I would go to court with her to demand all the money she made him lose cause this and for all the damage she has done to his image, even if he declares innocent(if he is) he will be marked as someone who has been in a sexual assault problem
@bung0o
@bung0o 3 жыл бұрын
I love how she goes “you could’ve apologized to me. You could’ve at least messaged me personally” when Sinatra came out with his twitlonger & now she just deleted her second google doc. Mans said I’m fully compliant and will do whatever is asked of me for the investigation & she got shook, don’t stick your stick in crazy
@zombiekillerbro6269
@zombiekillerbro6269 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I will pick sides when I hear all the story's/testimony during this investigation
@TheSkyCries1
@TheSkyCries1 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think there is really a side to pick. It just sounds like a really unhealthy relationship and both of them seem emotionally immature and not that experienced in having a healthyrelationship.
@lunatic2178
@lunatic2178 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I'll always pick the side of my favorite content creator. I don't actually give a fuck about what they did
@kingskelethon2256
@kingskelethon2256 3 жыл бұрын
@@lunatic2178 that's not really a good thing lol, but I understand you
@lunatic2178
@lunatic2178 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingskelethon2256 Idk I think its pretty neat
@triple0verkillz45
@triple0verkillz45 3 жыл бұрын
@@lunatic2178 That's such a horrible mentality.
@TheRackoon
@TheRackoon 3 жыл бұрын
Look at all the 15 year old law experts in the comments.
@endercmtv9536
@endercmtv9536 3 жыл бұрын
Make sense
@atmosphericspace4207
@atmosphericspace4207 3 жыл бұрын
everyone needs to chill, let the police handle it. If she is lying about the allegations she will be punished and if they are true then Sinatraa will be punished. There is no point taking sides.
@chrisgoblin4857
@chrisgoblin4857 3 жыл бұрын
A sexual assault investigation shouldn't be taken up by Riot. It should be completed by law enforcement.
@yoshi0k262
@yoshi0k262 3 жыл бұрын
yeh when all this shit happen and everyone was mad he didnt cooperate with riot it was the best move who wants a private company that has biases good or bad to dictate if your guilty or not to the mass
@jedaiahjedaiahjedaiah
@jedaiahjedaiahjedaiah 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they just go to courtroom instead of twitter? These unnecessary actions always lead to ruining someone's career. Also, screw twitter, man.
@Sxyel
@Sxyel 3 жыл бұрын
Sinatraa, EDP, and Lil Mousey sharing cells like crazyy
@ralv
@ralv 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@sebastiangeorgeiorga7122
@sebastiangeorgeiorga7122 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what famous person will manage to fuck up next
@anthonymiller9503
@anthonymiller9503 3 жыл бұрын
Edp 445 (4+4+5) = 13 😳
@TaLibanQ
@TaLibanQ 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonymiller9503 lol
@unpinned
@unpinned 3 жыл бұрын
brooo imagine doe, goin to prison and u see sinatraa, edp, lil mosey and tokyos revenge in one cell, ngl shit would be lit asf prison wont be lame for shit. 😂😂
@Impactframess
@Impactframess 3 жыл бұрын
Someone said in the last video that sinatraa look like the high elf from Skyrim. I can’t unsee it.
@streetballer1997
@streetballer1997 3 жыл бұрын
Dawg that “evidence” with that voice clip is the most playful shit ive ever heard, tf
@xist6138
@xist6138 3 жыл бұрын
u good she legit said no stop
@sirchuy97
@sirchuy97 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't show that in Curry's stream he said that he's done, SEN is probably gonna make the announcement in the next couple of days since they said that TenZ would be with them till the end of challengers 2
@kiru7seven7
@kiru7seven7 3 жыл бұрын
im very late but i dont understand why does cleo go to twitter with this like handle this professionally
@Greenbeanscreens
@Greenbeanscreens 3 жыл бұрын
She did... The authorities don't do shit, I talked to some of my female friends who have been through this and the police can't help, they are to busy with other stuff.
@dreadfulcascade732
@dreadfulcascade732 3 жыл бұрын
@@Greenbeanscreens if you file a report like that I'm pretty sure you'd get some kind of trial
@sondernfy
@sondernfy 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly my takeaway from all this is that relationships can be scary
@flacko_r3519
@flacko_r3519 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, they ain’t . You just need to have your own boundaries and mutual respect. All the stuff you see on Twitter or KZbin is all about money and clout.
@G03LIN
@G03LIN 3 жыл бұрын
No relationships aren’t scary. Not if your not making stupid choices.
@calebmoore433
@calebmoore433 3 жыл бұрын
just don’t emotionally and physically abuse your partner and I promise it won’t be this bad
@Nathan-je7dj
@Nathan-je7dj 3 жыл бұрын
As long it's with the right people but thats hard but not necessarily scary
@Emersongaming99
@Emersongaming99 3 жыл бұрын
that's what happens if you expect your partner to fix all your problems, fix yourself first before getting into a relationship
@tyyler8999
@tyyler8999 3 жыл бұрын
Cleo: I don't wanna fight Jay and Emmy. Jay with millions of fans Emmy with a few thousand on Tiktok. Yeaaaaah, I can see how a few thousand more on top of millions could scare you into silence, lol.
@tyyler8999
@tyyler8999 3 жыл бұрын
@victoria ursan Well, soon we'll see that Cleo is just trying to gain clout and she took personal video and posted it out of context. I look forward to seeing you delete your message in the future.
@endercmtv9536
@endercmtv9536 3 жыл бұрын
@victoria ursan i see the real kid here (:
@elijahgrider417
@elijahgrider417 3 жыл бұрын
one thing she may not understand about not being apologized to personally is that courts won't let it happen because it could interfere with the investigation... therefore he did it so everyone could see his apology.. granted he could just do this to make himself look better to the public but still, legally he can't apologize to her personally until the investigation is over with and justice is served to either the defendant or the accuser.. know the laws, boys, and girls!!!
@simokulli5814
@simokulli5814 3 жыл бұрын
Jay will be proven innocent for sure.
@Box-cz5xi
@Box-cz5xi 3 жыл бұрын
let's hope
@noahgassler746
@noahgassler746 3 жыл бұрын
There's so much stuff that could be easily fabricated, and she has every reason to lie... It's entirely possible that she's completely right, but she has completely failed to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. There's too many things that are shown that seem like evidence but aren't necessarily.
@zZLegEnDZzXD
@zZLegEnDZzXD 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if youre aware but last year he was proven innocent and she didnt even turn up to court
@ryuined
@ryuined 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair he has every reason to lie too
@kevinmiller5051
@kevinmiller5051 3 жыл бұрын
If he's found innocent, his pro team/Riot need to give him the money he would've made if he was still playing. It's wrong that just because someone accuses you of something you're immediately out of work.
@tyyler8999
@tyyler8999 3 жыл бұрын
It happens to even movie stars, you're cancelled instantly, and are guilty until proven innocent. It's a fucked up cancel people world.
@crossjeremiah
@crossjeremiah 3 жыл бұрын
Shit like this can ruin anyone's career. I feel like she's trying to be an influencer. And make it big. So being in some drama will get her some follows. She could've came out a little while ago. But there must be some tensions between her and his ex. This is just some smear campaign. If you're in a abusive relationship that's borderline rape and gas lighting. Get out, don't use all the benefits until it runs out then place blame, a year later.
@Greenbeanscreens
@Greenbeanscreens 3 жыл бұрын
She has recieved more bad publicity than good publicity. Only a delusional freak would make up these claims for their own benefit. She has dated one of the most toxic players in Esports, yet you really think she made it up. The toxicity, the hate in Esports is huge, gaming culture can be great, but in situations like this it also shows gaming culture at its worst. Stop worrying about his career and start worrying about her traumas, her career (that has also been destroyed by this). Also, you clearly haven't been in a situation where you feel trapped, held captive by someone meant to love you, you feel bound to them, there is some part of them that you just can't let go. You let yourself get walked over because you feel like this is what you need to do to keep something in your life. Just stop victim blaming, if you want to blame her, find evidence for it. Find evidence to prove that she made up a huge 9 page document. Find evidence to prove that he is innocent, respond to me with it once you have evidence.
@crossjeremiah
@crossjeremiah 3 жыл бұрын
@@Greenbeanscreens Stockholm syndrome is what you just explained my dear.
@Greenbeanscreens
@Greenbeanscreens 3 жыл бұрын
@@crossjeremiah I guess half the population has Stockholm syndrome then.
@taylormartin4346
@taylormartin4346 3 жыл бұрын
We live in a world where people’s sexual lives are memorialized on the internet forever, for everyone to see. Awful
@hanmoamo
@hanmoamo 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the development, thanks for keeping us informed. This situation is really delicate, hope that there will be some good news and clarity on it. The idea I've made up untill now is that they may be both in the wrong. Sinatraa may have been an abusive boyfriend back then, while Cleo may have slid some trumped up charges between her accusations to gain attention. We don't know, we can only wait and see
@day8366
@day8366 3 жыл бұрын
I like how innocent until proven guilty isn’t upheld at all, ever
@OGGamerjr
@OGGamerjr 3 жыл бұрын
The King is back.
@ploobs3062
@ploobs3062 3 жыл бұрын
this man speaks fluent hand
@IllllIIIIllIlllIIl
@IllllIIIIllIlllIIl 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like hes winning and his ex girl got jealous she aint with him anymore
@chalkywhite8991
@chalkywhite8991 3 жыл бұрын
Really irritates me the amount of people that take these sorts of allegations as if he’s been convicted.
@lythrax4927
@lythrax4927 2 жыл бұрын
this is probably the most famous thing west virginia is known for
@oldirtysean00
@oldirtysean00 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a tough situation and the truth is probably a mix of everyone's story. I don't want to say anyone is lying but it's not unheard of. I know plenty of scummy dudes (myself included) and I've literally seen a girl punch herself in the face so she could try and get another woman in trouble.
@toxin6584
@toxin6584 3 жыл бұрын
Finally not a biased opinion! I do believe that most people have the basic human decency to not falsely accuse someone of a big crime like sexual assault, though
@jeroencox6264
@jeroencox6264 3 жыл бұрын
@@toxin6584 yeah and if we start punishing false allegations it will discourage actual victims from reporting abuse.
@ficedulamortis6434
@ficedulamortis6434 3 жыл бұрын
Toxin unfortunately there are some people who don't have said human decency. Lots of guys have gone to prison for false claims
@toxin6584
@toxin6584 3 жыл бұрын
@@ficedulamortis6434 only about 3-5% of sexual abuse claims are false
@ficedulamortis6434
@ficedulamortis6434 3 жыл бұрын
Toxin *that we know of. That statistic is a pretty stupid one because I'm willing to bet more false rape allegations go on, with the guys name never being cleared. There was that one guy who was in prison for 5 years, an only got out because the girl admitted to lying about rape, for all we know that could've happened hundreds of times, and they never admitted it
@ominical5574
@ominical5574 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is why do people go to twitter about SA not to the police straight away
@matthewhitchcock7856
@matthewhitchcock7856 3 жыл бұрын
These people need to get lawyers, taking everything to Twitter makes it seem very unprofessional
@paradise4213
@paradise4213 3 жыл бұрын
They learned from Trump, haha
@jettsmethod5103
@jettsmethod5103 3 жыл бұрын
it was said that she filed a police report and with how slow they work the means she used may not be historically used but it is a good way to get her story out in this instance
@jatinbajaj8075
@jatinbajaj8075 3 жыл бұрын
People realise that it takes 2 minutes for faking a message , literally that proves nothing and at this point we are framing him
@empurically
@empurically 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno I heard that she didn’t show up to court?? Can anyone confirm that for me? People are also saying that she released the document as soon as he started getting more relevant
@endercmtv9536
@endercmtv9536 3 жыл бұрын
True
@cy-taku3952
@cy-taku3952 3 жыл бұрын
Just go to court not fvcking tweeter thats why I think this usr true
@complex9000
@complex9000 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else find themselves really active watching his hands quite entertaining
@alexulukaya1139
@alexulukaya1139 3 жыл бұрын
Seems weird that if she had proof, she was scared of defending herself despite having effectively a nail in the coffin for anyone arguing against her.
@bergieoldschool
@bergieoldschool 3 жыл бұрын
if a woman says no not before but during sex, just leave and get new girlfriend, she is dangerous.
@Nameless_Strinova
@Nameless_Strinova 3 жыл бұрын
Fr
@xythiera7255
@xythiera7255 3 жыл бұрын
She can also do that any time she wants . So basicly dont get a women in the first place .
@bergieoldschool
@bergieoldschool 3 жыл бұрын
@@xythiera7255 malding, sadly for you I have a gf and she is happy with me. She’s not a crazy person who tries to ruin others people career with rape allegations.
@slappievax2979
@slappievax2979 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda suspicious that she only speaks about this before Sinatraa’s biggest opportunity in Valorant and tries to expose him more right after the rumors that he started playing again. Sounds like she’s trying to ruin his life because of the unhealthy relationship they had.
@mikoalt
@mikoalt 3 жыл бұрын
True. Reminds me of what dafran tweeted, and his everybody laughed about it.
@NobleIIQuake
@NobleIIQuake 3 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, if someone sexually assaulted you I think you'd be pretty upset. She has provided sufficient evidence. Just because she released the second statement as he started playing Valorant again doesn't mean her accusations should be dismissed. Stop victim blaming.
@dun_mangopessoa
@dun_mangopessoa 3 жыл бұрын
@@NobleIIQuake simp
@bootychamp
@bootychamp 3 жыл бұрын
@@NobleIIQuake how is it victim blaming to say her timing is suspect, and he's not even wrong? Did he say it was her fault? Or that she asked for it? He didn't blame her, he just saying there's a chance there are ulterior motives. Y'all just throw that shit around for anyone who questions the first side they hear on twitter, but dont even know what the phrase means
@mikoalt
@mikoalt 3 жыл бұрын
@@NobleIIQuake True. I guess we gotta wait for Sin's response now.
@blindliberty4478
@blindliberty4478 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not taking a side
@kokuma5766
@kokuma5766 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I’m here to talk about your extended car warranty
@HaakuuGoneWild
@HaakuuGoneWild 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the creepy/dour music is a little bit distasteful for such a serious subject. I understand that the music is to create ambience so it's not just a guy talking. But it makes it a little bit theatrical in a bad way. Maybe i'm wrong. But just my opinion. Otherwise good video, with a clear layout of the story.
@faisalfaisal523
@faisalfaisal523 3 жыл бұрын
its just music who the fuck cares didnt even know they had music in the background
@HaakuuGoneWild
@HaakuuGoneWild 3 жыл бұрын
@@faisalfaisal523 as I said. It's just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong but it feels tacky. Plus I like the score and I want them to produce content with some integrity. Obviously it was just a small point of criticism.
@purpleguy3924
@purpleguy3924 3 жыл бұрын
@@HaakuuGoneWild your the only one who thinks that
@HaakuuGoneWild
@HaakuuGoneWild 3 жыл бұрын
@@purpleguy3924 I doubt it, but it's fair enough if you don't.
@unpinned
@unpinned 3 жыл бұрын
the music bro, really? 😐
@mr.unlucky3081
@mr.unlucky3081 3 жыл бұрын
I mean it's not like Sinatraa is not allowed to play valorant...
@sunimod1895
@sunimod1895 3 жыл бұрын
actually decent comments sections good job guys
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