The drop test for oil pump gears is ridiculous. Drop a camshaft and it does the same. The infamous tick is a tiny percentage and there is a reason why Shelby & Roush recommend 5w-50 oil. Lose the weasel piss warranty oil. I think you already know the above and like you said to keep the rpm’s below 7,500 and occasional bursts, not constantly drag racing, and one will be fine. I agree with Aesir07 comments👍
@jeffmartin26752 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you. Harmonic force on a part vs sheer impact on a focused point are completely different. Also agree with the oil. 5W-30 and above seems to fare far more well than anything 5W-20. Hell, the track packs came with 5W-50 from the factory and the internals are nearly identical. Thanks for stopping by.
@cliftonmatchett94262 жыл бұрын
They have plenty of power . Drive sensible and maintain service your fine. If you want a racing engine just go build one.
@zeeosix Жыл бұрын
Stock Coyote oil pump gears are not aluminum, they are steel.
@aesir07842 жыл бұрын
It's piston slap. It's common and these engines are rock solid, albeit noisy. I've had several and they've always help up throughout various degrees of solid punishment. I use 5w50 and a moly additive. Keep my oil changed every 2k and only use synthetic. The slap comes from the way the piston walls are treated from. The factory. It's all over the forums so I'm trying to understand why it's said Ford doesn't know. They most certainly do. Regardless - these are solid engines well designed and you've nothing to worry about with proper maintenance. Especially if you've a tendency to pound them. It's what they're made for. Just cover your ass with the resources at hand. You'll be fine.
@jeffmartin26752 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with you there man. I always thought it was interesting that Ford never said anything about it, but I think they realize it would cost a ton of money to "properly" fix it and just released the TSB that said it was normal, which the majority of people who have it can attest, that it's fine. I was mentioning to Eric below about the oil weights etc as well. I look at the coyote tick as just one of the engine's quirks tbh. Mine has close to 80K miles and it's done it with no issues to performance or reliability. I'll have to make a video of the car come to think of it lol
@aesir07842 жыл бұрын
@@jeffmartin2675 I do agree. - I have 2017 Grand Sport - while it's an amazing car - I LOVE my GT350 - it just speaks to my soul. - I also have the privilege to own a 2021 MACH1 - Absolute mayhem and a grin inducing BEAST. - My cars are my retirement fund and I hope to drive them well into my old age. - I'm 59 and drive like I'm 19 again. Ty FORD and GM! - American, baby! - Be safe and let's put together a CAR show! - Would love to meet everyone. - Aesir -
@jeffmartin26752 жыл бұрын
@@aesir0784 Oh wow, how do you like the GT350 vs the mach 1? I'd love to have either, but I plan on getting a GT350 one day, it's imo one of the best mustangs ever built. Enjoy them as they should be! A big car show would be great. Down the line if this takes off at all, I'll gladly host one
@Elver_Galarga_jugo Жыл бұрын
OPGs aren't needed for big power. People have gone 8s and 7s with unopened coyotes, right down to the stock OPGs and crank sprocket. Just don't hit the limiter and you'll never have OPG failure. Same with the crank sprocket. No reason to hit a rev limiter anyway, that's a clear sign of someone who can't drive
@jafo49Ай бұрын
The tiny bearings on the roller fallowers.
@maxwellsmart87302 жыл бұрын
I bought a Vortech supercharger kit for $8300 and oil pump gears and crank sprocket for $300 and had everything installed for $4000. Got 600 WHP on my 2020 Mustang GT. The car was 47K so I have almost 60K invested. It's a Mustang GT premium with the PP1 and the manual.
@jeffmartin26752 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you were laughing like a kid when you opened it up after the Vortech install. The crazy thing is with the gen 3 engines, you could turn that up if you ever wanted without worry, but personally, 600 is the sweet spot. Gotta pay to play and now you have that extra added insurance now. Smart like your name.
@1234zcrom2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I was disappointed when Ford made the S550 where you have to saw the exhaust off to install axle back mufflers :/
@jeffmartin26752 жыл бұрын
I love the S550 design in many ways, but that is a real big let down, I agree!
@oahusmiles2 жыл бұрын
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@user-xk4vt9ye8j3 ай бұрын
Really? I replace my stock exhaust with a cat back and the whole thing just unbolted at the cat but yeah, if you just want mufflers you’d need a saw.
@MustangGuru2 жыл бұрын
No tick in my 2015 Roush stage3. I did a proper run in of the engine. I use 15w-50 mobile 1. My Roush now has 54k miles on. With just a noisy MT82
@LukeplaysTV5 ай бұрын
hey bro, if your mt82 is noisy put in some bg syncro shift 2, did that on my 2012 and feels brand new
@MustangGuru5 ай бұрын
@@LukeplaysTV yeah. Running BG in it for the last 2 yrs, Better but you can still hear every bearing in it, Shifts like a dream but sounds like a roller coaster. Lol. Putting in a Ben Calamer stage2 this summer.
@LukeplaysTV5 ай бұрын
wow okay! mine isnt to loud now after the fluid switch, mine will prob become noisy tho, good luck on that new tranny!@@MustangGuru
@user-xk4vt9ye8j3 ай бұрын
Sounds like a lot of these problems only affect highly modified engines.
@MustangGuru2 жыл бұрын
My car is boosted, no oil pump issues I’m not using a 2 step or bouncing off rev limiter.
@tonyzackery2 жыл бұрын
Curious - what are your qualifications to critique automotive engines? Mechanical engineer? Journeyman mechanic?
@jeffmartin26752 жыл бұрын
Yup, I’m an engineer and longtime car enthusiast. Everyone is entitled to an opinion on something though. This is geared more towards facts as most things I talk about, I try to from a science or factual standpoint.
@peterpan86493 ай бұрын
You must drive a ls
@ChasingDifferentAdventures2 жыл бұрын
Better than anything EcoBoost From personal experience and the Bronco as well compression failure on cylinder Mounted Next to the too close proximity Turbo, without Heat Shields 🛡 or Insulation Blanket Covers for the Turbos.
@MustangGuru2 жыл бұрын
11-12 has weak rods.
@ralliartstyle Жыл бұрын
Wow…. He considers building a car a headache 🤐
@samiam90592 жыл бұрын
A lot of things to watch out for.
@TheManic.5-OH Жыл бұрын
I learned nothing
@MilushevGeorgi Жыл бұрын
Rods on gen 2 are kinds forged
@Condor19702 жыл бұрын
None of the parts are an issue if you don't supercharge over 650hp. Stock engines have almost no issues. Typewriter tick is oil pressure related. Exacerbated by the oil bypass in 2018+ for better CAFE standards. Best guess is below 30psi, the HLA's are slightly deflated, causing an intermittent tick that has no effect on engine life or reliability.
@Wooley6892 жыл бұрын
Typewriter tick, slack in timing chain which is allowing chain to tap on cover, most times though a header leak of some sort.
@frankjgornickjr3676 Жыл бұрын
Ford 460 big block oh yeah!
@Jhoodemcee Жыл бұрын
It takes a long time to degrade my boy coyote are still getting beat on with no issue
@onefastbob3 ай бұрын
LOL, the oil pump gears are NOT aluminum. They are steel and they can be a weak link at high horsepower levels. And no, I won't be subscribing. When making videos, it is always best to know your subject matter.
@faisalalshami63722 жыл бұрын
the tick is normal for the love of god it will go away when the car warms up. there are hundreds of vids to show you how to stop the tick short term but it will always come back...get over it. jeff your so wrong sorry
@samuelgalo99172 жыл бұрын
So ,everything is wrong in a coyote engine
@rickitysplitz7035 Жыл бұрын
Not really. They are very reliable and have had no problem.