These Trucks Are GAME CHANGERS | Scout Terra + Traveler

[@IslandAdventures]

big thing you missed is scout says these have 80% user serviceable parts, so you can work on it in your driveway.

[@Trashed20659]

The only thing you should have to service is the gasoline powered generator. There isn't really anything beyond brakes and tires to repair in an EV, which is kinda the point. Repairs are a bug, not a feature.

[@CrumResearch]

best feature, this commitment and promise. hoping for Wrangler-like variety of third-party add-ons and interfacing to electrical system, too.

[@hamsterbrigade]

@@Trashed20659 Literally everything else on a car(outside of the engine}, suspension, bearings, cooling system etc... can and will need to be replaced at some point in the vehicles life. Do you think EV manufacturers don't have repair centers?

[@Trashed20659]

@@hamsterbrigade Actually, when a system is electrified, the maintenance becomes less. The mechanical aspect of things is what breaks most often. The fewer the moving parts, the less failure. I don't doubt there will be a need for service, just not as much of it.

[@aeromtb2468]

really working on your high voltage battery pack and mc/inverter.

[@Kreegrrr]

Front bench driver seats?!!! Love it! Bring back drive ins and watch the population number sky rocket! lol.

[@stuffjunk5019]

right, most vehicles basically have a dinner table for a console, not convenient to say the least lol..

[@tetchuma]

Without the Scout, there would not have been a Bronco OR Blazer.

[@beekeeper8474]

😂

[@martinbaggott1052]

Would love to get one, but 3 years? I’m 77. I don’t even buy green bananas!

[@ieattuna]

Live long!

[@bretfoy4710]

This is actually the first EV I would consider owning props to them for developing the range extender before the big 3 domestic kings

[@rogerrussell9544]

Remember the Chevy Volt?

[@panzer948]

@@rogerrussell9544 Right, I do as I owned one for 11 years and believe me, that range extender ability of the Volt really worked as we always considered it an EV first but without range anxiety. Took it on several multi day trips using gas only; while at home only used battery. It eased my way into the EV world when I realized that even with a lousy 40 mile battery range of my Volt, I still relied on the battery for 95% of our driving. I now have a full EV in the Mustang Mach E but I did put a deposit down on a Traveler with Range Extender knowing that most would want this to ease their way into the EV world so figured it would help with resale. But yeah, more EVs should be adding gas range extender tech to their EV lineups as an option. I am not sure why Chevy went away from it as it would have been a great idea for their EV Blazer/Hummer/etc. It seems like EV sales are down recently since most that were not scared to buy one (like myself), already have. Its going to take something like Range Extender options to get the rest of the masses into trying an EV. In a sense, that is exactly why I was okay getting my latest one too!

[@desertdriver7056]

Great overview and comparisons, thanks. I think the Scout, particularly the Traveler, looks terrific. I put a deposit down but who knows by 2027/2028. Still, with that Harvester gas extender and gorgeous design, I'm on board.

[@Roddaculous]

On paper these things sound great. And the design is beautiful. I just wish we didn't have to wait 3 years to see them. I'm all in.

[@rogerrussell9544]

You realize this is a VW?

[@zccolby]

It is not though. It is backed by VW group, but designed and produced in the US. the reveal event goes over this in detail. They were a startup company that received funding. VW has nothing like this ​@rogerrussell9544

[@daviddickmeyer5231]

@@rogerrussell9544not even close!

[@davisng2646]

These EVs with range extender sounds good, like these Scouts and the new Ram pickup. Might be the only EVs I'm interested in

[@Candisias]

Same.

[@IvanRojasX5]

Probably most if not all people will go for the Harvester extended range... Because I mean, you can rely solely on the battery for the daily driver, specially for those daily drives less than 62 miles (or a hundred kilometers). And for the longer trips, just fill it with gasoline, and you're set to go. And unlike purely electric cars, nobody stops you from bringing one or two 20 liters cans for extra gasoline for even longer trips.

[@g.fortin3228]

Love the older Scout and it sure looks like they put a lot of thought into the styling and usefulness of this new one.. hope it hits the ground running ! Not giving up my 4Runner too soon but hey maybe someday !

[@n7narcosis]

Don't kid yourself this thing will be $100K+ before it reaches your hands.

[@marceinthemountains]

Hopefully not, they are saying it will be direct to consumer, so hopefully no insane dealer markups. Time will tell.

[@rogerwilco1777]

@@marceinthemountains yeah tesla truck was also direct to consumer and supposed to 'start' at $39.9K.. ..and this has a 2027 release date, so it'll probably get released in 2030.. by 2030 Im pretty sure a toyota corolla will be 100k so this will probalby be a billon dollars

[@masterblaster2733]

Might replace my appreciation of Rivian.

[@jefflloyd394]

Great, love the pick up, but need a smaller one.

[@TJWinter1221]

If Stellantis can get its act together and price Jeep Wranglers below 40k, where it SHOULD be, it would leave the competition in the dust! I hear that might just happen since dealerships can't sell them at 60,70, 80k. A year-end blowout sale is about to happen. It's going to be a buyers market! Finally.

[@davehaller6477]

If you have a option to remove the doors and the roof like the Jeep or Bronco.... I am sold.

[@quentinnicholson8202]

I know VW will never do a v8 but I’d love to have either of these if they offered an inline 6

[@perigosu8449]

I placed the $100 deposit the same day I heard about it. Hopefully, the infrastructure catches up a bit by 2027. Looks great!

[@beekeeper8474]

😂

[@darrellfilyaw7255]

I have a 79 SS two. I will keep my big gas guzzling V8 y’all can have the hybrid.

[@bryanmauroner3347]

Volkswagen enthusiast here. While I can appreciate the effort from Volkswagen in the end it’s Electric, and has its limitations. As a Touareg 05 4.2 V8 original owner Volkswagen needs to bring back the Touareg to the North American Market. A Diesel option or 6 cylinder hybrid would satisfy the Flagship market in North American not an Electric Vehicle.

[@JimZabad]

Correction: The LC250 is only available with the turbo 2.8 inline 4 cylinder (hybrid) engine in the USA. Thus, it has less HP/Torque than stated. It is unfortunate that the Scout isn’t a true hybrid. VW, from what I understand, isn’t going to make solely powered gas powered vehicles in the immediate future.

[@dnvm84]

In my past I have owned three Scout II and they were awesome when it came to off road. I am glad to see the name but sad that it is not a US brand. I am concerned about the batteries and water. Only time will tell.

[@arcostonian]

It is a US brand. Literally based, designed, and built in the US, by Americans. VW is just putting up the money

[@dnvm84]

@@arcostonian Thank you for the information. I did not know any of that. This is the first I had heard of this come back and seeing the VW name tied to the brand. It will be interesting to see how the new trucks do. Hopefully they won't rust as bad as the originals.

[@panzer948]

@@dnvm84 Yep, to be built down the road from me In Blythewood, SC. Supposedly will have 4000 jobs when all gets going. VW bought the name out in an earlier deal but is keeping it as a separate company based here in US. I think the design team is in Michigan for example.

[@bayareahustles]

Ready to see a scout compete with HUMMER these are some nice trucks indeed

[@kevinbmw135]

Reservation placed Terra Electric + Gas, but will cancel my reservation if Ford comes out with a Bronco Truck. I love my bronco but miss not having a truck bed.

[@toastranger72]

Don't know why more hybrids don't use this setup. Let the gas engine run at it's peak efficiency rpm continuously. That way you get the most out of the gas, and the longest life out of the engine. Start stop systems on combustion engine vehicles are the dumbest thing ever. The engine never warms up, contaminating the oil, and you keep using it in rpms it doesn't like. You'd be lucky to get 90k miles out them. My Acura has 164k and I expect it do another 100k more.

[@infam0usP]

love the Traveler but don't need all that space. make a 2 door version about 8-10k cheaper that's still eligible for the tax credit and I'll gladly buy

[@stegomon]

If it is not a Tesla. I am all in!

[@T.I.R24]

No, it's a pos vw.

[@rogerrussell9544]

@@T.I.R24 If it had the 345 or 392 I'd be more tempted.

[@avery3991]

@@T.I.R24VW doesn’t have anything to do with this brand other than funding

[@elefterioskoukoulis7612]

@@avery3991 they use the vw parts bin, the range extender would likely be developed from a vw 3 or 4 cylinder engine

[@nc3826]

​ @elefterioskoukoulis7612 exactly what VW parts? only a few generic parts will be used in both VW and Scouts, that most consumers will never see or touch.... (FWIW Tesla wants other automakers to adopt its 48V architecture to reduce the net cost of production for those generic parts, it doesn't make them Tesla parts) And it's hard to see how Scout will fit any existing VW engine in such a flat tight space, where they stated they are planning on putting it .... ​ @avery3991 Scout does have some former Volkswagen executives.... But the current EV architecture VW / Rivian Partnership.... Means there's a good chance Scouts will feel more like a Rivian, than a Volkswagen...

[@scottboyd8892]

I really believe this is a good thing depending on the battery that is in the vehicle, and that is why Toyota CEO said EVs are failures and the world will never be just EV. The Toyota CEO was referring to the Lithium battery. I am not sure people remember or are aware of what the Obama administration did (being Obama did.) Obama placed restriction on how EVs and Hybrids were able to be used in the USA. VW came out with a 2 cylinder diesel engine to charge a battery and would travel 207 mile on a gallon of fuel. One gallon. In the USA it would go approximately 198 miles on a gallon of fuel. Obama said if you build a Hybrid as a charging only, then you could only have one gallon of fuel to use no matter if it was gasoline or diesel. Well, we don't want EVs due to numerous things, but range is a big reason before charging for a large amount of time. I am not sure what happened, but right now there are Manufactures building vehicles with a charging engine generator and not to put the vehicle in motion. Good! The good is due to hydrogen fuel or even ammonia fuel will be the future and neither of the two we use now and are zero emission. That pisses off the Swamp in office now, because their money tree will die. It isn't just the Democrats, but mostly are. It is Republicans also and some are not in office now. Obama and Biden are two in the mix and we know Biden was due to the info that has come to light. Just think what we don't know.

[@sedrickphillips]

For me its design and price

[@theoldfashioned_]

Beauty

[@dwightk.schruteiii8454]

I wonder how the range extender will work. Would I ever need to charge the car? Couldn’t I just fill it with gas and let the generator do the rest?

[@ag4eng]

Actual production remains to be seen. Weren’t the prototypes built by Magna?

[@HamRadioN0CKL]

What happens when you damage battery underneath while "offroading". Then you get that battery wet and 🔥 the forest down because you cant put it out.

[@rogerwilco1777]

What happens if you puncture a gas tank and a hot exhaust burns down the forest..? you dont even need the tank to puncture, hot exhausts alone start multiple fires a year.. I'm pretty sure the random person 'puncturing' their offroad EV and starting a fire will be WAY less than the random douchebag without a spark arrester

[@HamRadioN0CKL]

@rogerwilco1777 easy to put out fuel fire with on board extinguishers as well friends. Now try that with a giant lithium battery on fire.

[@rogerwilco1777]

@@HamRadioN0CKL non issue. ICE vehicles catch on fire 80 times more than ev's. so for every ev forest fire there will be 80 ice related forest fires.

[@AaronVets]

@@HamRadioN0CKL🧠💀🤡

[@pangtsr]

This looks exactly like a Rivian.

[@richardmiller3808]

Built here I would buy just for that reason alone.

[@RedDevilDog1207]

Make it a hybrid and dump the cabana top for roof rack with integrated solar

[@panzer948]

Technically it is a hybrid with range extender option, but actually better than most hybrids (like the Prius types) as it could still be fully EV if you never exceed its battery range. So best of both worlds.

[@RedDevilDog1207]

@@panzer948 I don’t want to rely on charging stations with continued increased cost, blackouts and wait time as primary source of power. I also don’t want to spend $60k plus to only then have to build a power plant at my home.

[@panzer948]

@RedDevilDog1207 well get this and only use gas to power it. That is what the range extender offers. Just, like our volt, if you only wanted to use gas it will allow that... albeit the gas tank capacity will be smaller than typical trucks. Then, over time, you will realize that charging at home while you sleep and never stopping at a gas station for pricey oil to feed terrorists every few days is actually a plus... heck buying an EV should be the most patriotic thing one could do since it uses 100% home grown energy.

[@RedDevilDog1207]

@panzer948 🤣🤣🤣 okay sure

[@panzer948]

@RedDevilDog1207 yep exactly. If you just think about it, it all makes sense! I work at a power plant and drive an American EV! So I'm about as patriotic as it gets! Didnt you ponder as a kid about the future? Jetsons and their flying cars? No we are not there yet cause we can't even get past using Dino DNA. Heck in 1890 most people wanted to continue to use horse and buggies. I want humans to advance not stand still. We each can do our part! 😀

[@SamanthaGray-u4f]

The reason most automakers are going under they're trying to convert to electric vehicles but most of America doesn't want an electric vehicle this is why they're not selling

[@mcsike7264]

Tesla model Y becoming best selling in the us this year

[@panzer948]

well most Americans could ease their way into EVs if they bought one with range extender options like Scout is offering. That is essentially what I did back in 2011 with the first year model Chevy Volt. I later replaced it 11 years later with a full EV after I realized that 99% of our driving was with a battery (and that is on a vehicle with only 40 mile range...).

[@cannabeastie]

Oddly enough..., the warranty on my current vehicle runs out in 2027...😊

[@jimhanle2971]

This is a concept vehicle with a one off interior. We shall see in 2028 what it looks like then . Relax

[@hamsterbrigade]

Those Land Cruiser numbers are completely wrong. It looks like someone mixed up the specs with a GX550. A new land cruiser definitely doesn't tow 8100 pounds.

[@brucesong286]

Can it been modified the parts like Jeep or Bronco? If no, it will not be too much fun to me

[@brucesong286]

like 37 tires, suspensions, or winch mounted?

[@371kenny]

​@brucesong286 yes. They said you can customize it when you order.

[@panzer948]

As both a Jeep (CJ5) and new Bronco owner, I too wish for this and based on what I have seen, it will indeed. Besides, if enough of these sale there will be 3rd party companies popping up everywhere to sale aftermarket parts.

[@feoxorus]

I'd take one customized with I4 turbo diesel or an inline 6, otherwise it's a hard pass.

[@rogerwilco1777]

Good idea with the generators.. can they be used the entire life of the car?, or were they ment to be a 'backup' for when you cant charge at home..? Either way it'll be good for off-roading trips, just carry extra jerry cans of gas like you would with any other ICE off-roader.. (but 2027 release date with a 50k starting price, come on, tesla truck was also supposed to start at 39k and we all know how that turned out.. I'll be amazed if it comes out before 2030 and you can get a dual generator one for under six figures)..

[@czaz00]

You forgot Ineos

[@jamesw1791]

I'll pass on anything with a battery. Hydrogen is the next best bet.

[@j.need4qlife483]

While hybrids are unsettling, full ev's are terrifying to own. Vehicles are way too expensive to buy and reliability from all manufacturers, which has been in downward death spiral. Batteries for both hybrids and ev's are so expensive to replace, and if the vehicle is in a minor accident, chances are the insurance company will total it. The majority of hard-working Americans can not afford such vehicles to support families. Too much risk and expense.

[@panzer948]

so much misinformation here that I don't know where to begin. Sadly, you are drinking the negative Kool-Aid and not looking at the full picture. As an owner of either a Hybrid or full EV for the past 23 years, I am speaking from experience in knowing both pros and cons and believe me, the pros far outweigh the cons. Don't be scared and just go buy one yourself to find out the truth. Why are so many people scared of progress or change is beyond me. Folks like you back in 1890 would still be fighting for the horse and buggy... Now that is funny.

[@Brisco_County_Jr]

They aren't changing any game at that price point. Doubtful they'll even hit that price point.

[@rogerwilco1777]

We need 'cheaper' options, not many people can drop six figures on a car.. .. but lucky for you, these companies always lie about numbers. Tesla Truck was supposed to start at $39K remember..? ..and dont worry, the one you'd want, aka the Dual-Generator 'Off-Road' model will be a six figure vehicle for sure.. so good for you if you want to spend house money on a car, but its bad for the rest of us who want cars, but those six figures would be better spent towards a house, or feeding a family for a few months.

[@glenmallory9982]

I’ll take a restored Terra two door with the 345 and the Chrysler automatic over this thing. Pretty trucks but where i live EVs dont cut it.

[@panzer948]

Wait a min. The Rivian doesn't have mechanical front and rear differentials or sway bar disconnect like the Bronco, Jeeps, and planned Scout so no way it would excel offroad. In most tests the Rivian doesn't do as well as the Jeep/Bronco so how could it be better than the Scout at offroad prownessnes since the Scout seems to be designed with more of the pure offroad specs of Jeep/Bronco.

[@jakeblakeley2246]

Two things here: 1. these are going to be huge. Slightly smaller than the Hummer EV. 2. Most modern large EVs are body on frame; its the easiest way to fit battery packs into the structure. Rivian is a body on frame with Unibody elements for example

[@jeffevers7596]

Too bad there’s no two-door convertible

[@BaconCruiser]

The headlight design is too close to a shitty Hyundai Santa Fe. They need to pull more from the old design of the Scout.

[@chapp-1e564]

Will it be midsize? ( like ranger,colorado, tacoma) or fullsize ( like f150, silverado, ram)

[@greathey1234]

I hear EV I run as fast as I can while humming some V8 noises

[@danielrichter3826]

I hope the prices is not High. And comes with a gasoline engine

[@JB-xi2yv]

Its better, but evs are not feasible unless we're going to mine other planets anytime soon. What part of "open pit mine" and "slave labor" don't people understand?

[@bossfan49]

These are VW/Rivians. Using IH Scout names is a disgrace to the legacy.

[@StefanoKlironomos]

Scout made a toaster - what is happening to us :)

[@jaymangan]

Why can’t we get a real gas motor? EV’s don’t work in the Rocky Mountains in the winter!

[@feoxorus]

Bet they don't fare very well in a German winter either unless you live in a city and keep it in a heated garage. Oh wait, Germans can't heat anything because they cuddled up to Pootie! 🤣🤣

[@feoxorus]

Bringing back the iconic Scout brand is brilliant, making them EVs is just stupid. They're dead in the water unless they make gas- or diesel-engined models. I would never take an EV off-road, their range is too limited with no hope for refueling. The new "bronco" has been another ill-conceived attempt at cashing in on an iconic SUV. Looks similar to a proven winner but, like Jeeps, they are junk. I'll keep my 60 year old Scout because I can strap on a 5-gallon gas can and get home, it only requires a very basic set of SAE tools to work on almost everything - and it keeps appreciating in value.

[@_Yep_Yep_]

How much did Scout pay you to blow them, @Ideal Cars?

[@mw6563]

Reservation placed in the first three minutes they went live.

[@jshap-td9dj]

electric. period. with a briggs and stratton to recharge the battery. not interested.

[@jasonshep5585]

Nope! Lost most at EV!

[@josephvandyke1017]

Isn’t scout part of ford

[@FireRescue884]

Thanks to Volkswagen scout is back, but now Volkswagen is going down so scout will fade back into history again. Parts are hard to get and the price before dealer bs is 65 grand, goodbye scout 😂

[@marceinthemountains]

Scout says these will be direct to consumer, so no ridiculous dealer markups.

[@FireRescue884]

@ Due to franchise laws, direct to consumer won’t happen. They know that, thats why they partnered with VW. But if that was the case, they should partner with Amazon 😂

[@joed4325]

With dealer lots full of EVs they can't sell, let's come up with a new EV that won't sell. Makes sense to me.

[@devous987]

They're staying out of dealer networks and are selling direct to consumer like Tesla, that alone is a huge draw.

[@panzer948]

actually, the fact that this has an option for a range extender automatically makes it a special class beyond the standard EV and yes that includes all Tesla models. Its an EV first with the option to use gas. Should help win over many that are still nervous about changing technology. More EV manufactures should have this as an option.

[@faheemabbas3965]

The Scouts actually also come with an EREV option with a gas engine range extender.

[@joed4325]

@@faheemabbas3965 it is still an EV

[@nunyabiznus5428]

Making it an EV is a loser. Try crossing a river and getting your batteries wet since they are in the floor of the frame.

[@mcsike7264]

You do know ppl iffroad there rivians hummer ev and cybertrucks right and cross rivers all the time dont talk shit when you dont know shit😂

[@nunyabiznus5428]

@@mcsike7264 ok. I guess your version of crossing a puddle and my version of crossing a river are different.

[@mcsike7264]

@@nunyabiznus5428 rivians can go in 3 feet deep water the cyber truck even have a mode for it

[@splurb5000]

If this is just a VW, why would I trust it more than a VW? I wouldn't buy a VW EV.

[@ryanwalters6184]

It not. It is rivian software and has a completely new design. They're likely using the Bosch motors that rivian did not use.

[@bachbui]

“looking for who ask?”

[@highwolf8022]

Too expensive, too late, nothing new here. Just another techy click bite that’s way over engineered. VW should have put a 4 cylinder engine and 3 speed manual transmission. Something anyone could afford. They will sit on the lots just like the Bronco, and grand Wagoneer.

[@MossMini]

It will be dead on arrival in two years.

[@bcampbell0011]

nobody cares

[@rogerrussell9544]

Another overpriced unwanted EV that nobody asked for. This is a VW EV that will be no more reliable than their other EV's.

[@maxapollo1]

What is the % of owners that will take these 80k trucks off road

[@T.I.R24]

Their under 60k...and i take my 125k truck off road all the time.

[@brucesong286]

I don't think this one can off road like Jeep or Bronco, it more like a rigid look SUV

[@warsteed357]

Disappointing😞😞😞😞😞

[@horuslupercal3872]

How so?

[@warsteed357]

@@horuslupercal3872 ...I grew up with scout. A non~gasoline or diesel engine is just disappointing in my book.

[@yousicianyounis9234]

​@@warsteed357fair enough but it's look like an EV that embrace the classic car aesthetics with modern technology and functionality so the one of few EV that I would like to buy.

[@napoland9676]

You lost me at "Now under VW."

[@oklahomawheeling4x4]

Hybrid ev's are all crap....they catch on fire in your driveway parked turned off. This is a propaganda commercial. They are fucking up....they won't sell. More corporate crap!

[@horuslupercal3872]

Can you show me that this happens more than with gas cars? You know gas cars do to just no one cares so it isn’t reported

[@lancepayne7528]

You must live in China, fucken stupid human

[@rogerrussell9544]

@@horuslupercal3872 Gas cars catch fire, usually electrical fires and they can be quickly put out. EV"s burn to the ground regardless of what you throw at them.

[@richardshuster1480]

This thing will blow any gas powered vehicle out of the water. 0-6 in 3.5, let's see your gas guzzler do that.

[@rogerrussell9544]

@@richardshuster1480 Ah yes, the reason everyone buys a truck. The fast 0-60 times.