These Two Chairs are Highly Ranked…But I’ll Prove One is Better

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[@venom5809]

Suggesting no headrest on the Gesture is criminal, that and the arms are the only things that make that chair tolerable, otherwise the Leap is so much better. Banks seem to like Gestures, hospitals seem to like Amias, and for home usage most physicians seem to pick Leaps or Aerons, not sure the methodology on that one.

[@moepskie]

Microsoft HQ Netherlands has Gestures all over the place as well Got the Gesture myself as well simply because I need a good chair with a good headrest. I've never tried Leap but I think the chances are Leap is indeed a bit more comfortable than the Gesture if you don't need a headrest. Leap seems to cradle you a bit more than Gesture for better comfort, the Gesture definitely does not feel like it's cradling me which I sometimes miss. I'm still satisfied with my Gesture's comfort overall, but if I could try a Leap with a Gesture-headrest, I'd probably prefer that.

[@AsthmaQueen]

i sit cross legged in gesture, pretty sure i'd struggle to do that in leap. I agree on the headrest, its an absolute must.

[@LuminairPrime]

I like the Leap as an office chair. I wish the arms went higher because I'm tall, and I wish it had a headrest for naps, but it's a great chair still.

[@PaulDickson7]

I bought the leap, returned it after a week due to lower back pain, bought the gesture and still have tailbone pain. Leap felt rigid but I do find myself missing the leap. Removing the lumbar makes the leap better

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Have you tried the Amia? Most ppl who experience tailbone pain with the Leap v2's seat tend to prefer the Amia' seat. Or you could get the best of both worlds with the Lamia.

[@MetalsForBrunch]

you need to see a Dr for your back pain. chairs will not magically heal your back but will help prevent further injuries.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

​​@@MetalsForBrunchI have an Aeron, but I did have several physiotherapy sessions to fix muscle knots in my back. Yes, the Aeron didn't magically fix my back pain, but it damn well supports my back when I'm working or gaming at my desk. I think it's important to have realistic expectations when buying these chairs, instead of buying into marketing hype.

[@moortu]

I got a second hand gesture for 350 euros, base model. And I won't keep it forever, but It's great while I'm waiting for the haworth fern digital knit to come to europe

[@Jonathan-h2d2o]

Hi, I would like to know your opinion on the purchase of my next chair. If you had the opportunity to buy the Steelcase Gesture without headrest and the Colamy Atlas for the same price ($250), which one would be the better choice? I am about 5.5 to 5.7 feet tall. Thanks

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

It depends on whether you really need a headrest or not, but regardless, a Gesture for only $250 is an absolute steal.

[@sawiie]

I own a gesture with headrest, since I'm in Colombia, returning it is not an option and re-selling it is a looooooooong-shot. Since it was such an expensive buy I think I'll be stuck with it for the next 7 years... I really wanted to love it, but it's not comfortable for me 😢. If anyone is on the market for these kinds of chairs I'll give you my two cents, tested the Haworth Fern and didn't like it because the seat-pad was too stiff. Tested the Herman Miller Embody and wasn't blown away by it but it was the comfiest, nevertheless the lack of head rest steered me away from it... If I can recommend anything for someone who likes working lounging back in a more relaxed position, try the embody and if you need a headrest just buy the Atlas Headrest, instead of going for the gesture.

[@venom5809]

You sound like you have a chair problem like me. LOL. I didn't like my Fern at all, sold it. I have a Leap and an Embody and just got a Humanscale Freedom last weekend. I think the Leap is the best overall chair out there but the Freedom so far has been very comfortable, the headrest is truly top tier. I would say the arms are cool but don't go up high enough and the build quality not as good as my Leap or Embody. The Embody I love some days and hate others. It would be a better chair with thicker padding to me. Best recline by far though and truly needs a headrest. If you can find a Freedom I highly recommend trying it out. I like the Fabric on my Embody better than the Freedom but the fabric on my Leap is better than both by a lot, tempted to reupholster the Freedom in Leap fabric.

[@Solidariity]

Do u still have it? Are u looking to sell it?

[@sawiie]

@@Solidariity hello yes I still have it and I'd like to be able sell it

[@Solidariity]

@@sawiie what part of colombia do u live in

[@Solidariity]

I will be traveling to colombia in December and I might be interested in buying it

[@Odseus]

Hrm. The gesture is the next chair i'm going to pull the trigger on when there is a sale.. I don't mind that there isn't as much flexibility with the Gesture.. The arms look great but I have ulnar nerve issues. The seat pad not being as comfortable is a concern. When I tested just the top half of the leap chair.. It feels so small and I didn't feel like i had enough shoulder support. 6"3 260. (chair is for my SO. BTOD sent the wrong chair) I'll get to fully test out the lamia tomorrow.

[@btodtv]

The arms on the Gesture should get a bit wider if your concern was fit, but as far as back is concerned, the Leap is a bit wider through the top. So if you were concerned on shoulders, the Gesture will be narrower than the Leap at the top. -Greg

[@Odseus]

@@btodtv Hey Greg. I received the lamia chair today (the checklist marked the wrong chair again but the right chair was in the box) width isn't a huge issue. It's a great chair very comfortable. The back just isn't tall enough and the lower back support seemed weak even at it's tightest setting (maybe i needed to adjust more).. The deal breaker for me is I like that upper shoulder support. I lean back into my chair. I'm thinking the gesture with headrest is the way to go. BTW the SO loves the chair it fits her perfectly at 5'9 it's replacing a 15 year old Aeron. Thank you for the videos. It really helps out a LOT!

[@swampweed833]

What if I don't ever need to adjust my arms aside from up or down? My current chair has 4 way function and I haven't used it even once in the span of 7+ years of using it and it's only a neusance because if I bump into it I have to move it back in place.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Is the Leap v2 fabric breathable? I'm trying to avoid chairs that make me warm, hence why I don't like the gaming Embody, and prefer the standard one with the balance fabric. Nothing beats the Aeron when it comes to breathability, but I don't want another mesh chair.

[@RaphpowerSGSUModding]

I can't wrap my head arround the additionnal lumbar, i'm testing the gesture at home, and I'll drive far to try without lumbar, because it hurts!

[@Axmedzhan]

As a home chair is the headrest of the gesture wins here or the backrest' flexibility of the leap?

[@JackOnTheMap]

Are you guys not selling Aeron’s anymore? Been trying to buy but there’s none.

[@nanoflower1]

Was there any doubt as to what was going to be the winner? If you've watched any of their live streams it was clear which chair was going to win before even watching this video. 😄

[@nancyransom6874]

Well you aren't wrong. I would love a Leap. Can't afford it.

[@justinzcruiz9808]

Have you guys heard of Hbada? can you review their new E3?

[@michaellieberman9419]

Something about the leap backrest that hurts my shoulders. Just ordered a gesture. Fingers crossed.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Have you received it yet?

[@michaellieberman9419]

@@StardustLegacyFighter tomorrow

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

​@@michaellieberman9419How's the Gesture treating you?

[@dudedudedude36]

lol he said workhouse

[@Deifiable]

Hold on hold on, before I watch, let me guess: It's the one that you guys sell on your refurbished website.

[@btodtv]

We sell them both. -Ryan

[@bd4947]

This isn’t a fair criticism of BTOD- I’ve tested over a dozen ergo chairs- all of the top of the line in most popular configs, and while I like the gesture more than the leap v2 I’m in the minority for sure. Why wouldn’t they promote a more affordable chair that is also more common and honestly more adjustable? And if you want that Amia seatpan for the lamia, just order a replacement pan from BTOD (or Crandall). Can’t speak for BTOD But Crandall will give you money back if you return the old seat pan- and there are options for a revitalized OEM SEAT as well as a new, thicker version. Ryan goes into depth as to why BTOD Sticks with the OEM version on Reddit- if you can find it from about 18 months ago it’s a great read…but like I said criticism for their v2 rec here is unfounded in my experience even though I’m team gesture

[@weirdodude1173]

Thumbs up for the Chairiffs!!

[@MetalsForBrunch]

these chairs look really cheap for what its worth.

[@JorgeFerreira10]

first

[@blackvolgan]

leap looks better imo