SEA CAT WEAPON BRIEF - NO. 8

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TheShipYard

TheShipYard

Күн бұрын

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@henryvagincourt4502
@henryvagincourt4502 2 жыл бұрын
Rapier was not a land version of Sea Wolf mucker, Sea Cat didn't fully replace gun's the fleet still use Bofors, in our case 2 x 20 mm Oerlikon, ex F126 in the Falklands
@Rambogner
@Rambogner Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a SeaCat missile at home, inert now obviously but has all its guidance kit
@Zitropat
@Zitropat Жыл бұрын
HMS Glamorgan wasn't hit by an MM-40, but by an older MM-38 removed from ARA Seguí. At that time there was no land based version made by Aerospatiale. It was a makeshift mount for 2 container - launchers.
@sage2308
@sage2308 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting: I understood that this was the primary air defence system on HMS Troutbridge
@Hannymcfee
@Hannymcfee 20 күн бұрын
I dont believe that HMS Troutbridge ever had Sea-Cat, just Bofors and 4 indh
@4evaavfc
@4evaavfc 3 жыл бұрын
Seacat was a glorified firework. It wasn't easy to guide to its target and it tended to fizz out on its launcher. The twin 40mm auto cannons it replaced were better.
@Pvt_Badger0916
@Pvt_Badger0916 3 жыл бұрын
Hi James love the channel fella .. my old man would and used to say , it would of better if we used a wet cat instead of sea cat using a trebuchet MMMeeeooowww 🐈🐈🐱
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting Video. I did a lot of reading on the Falklands War and find it quite fascinating. Before I got into the topic I always assumed, that the Missiles in the 80 were all Radar guided. And so I was suprised to learn that quite a few were line of sight guided. I am still not quite sure, were the Sea Slugs present at the Falklands Radar guided with the option of beeing guided by sight or how did it work ? Also I wouldnt say that Rapier was more efficient or effective. Seeing that it has 1 confirmed kill and I think a few damaged ones to its name, of the top of my head. At the time some naval commanders and others placed great hopes into it, but those didnt realy come true. In my opinion , all things considered, in San Carlos Water and maybe outside of it, the would have been better off with some more 40 mm or some world War 2 era AA from a cruiser for example. Or of course a working close in missile system :)
@colinbarron4
@colinbarron4 Жыл бұрын
Sea Slug was entirely radar - guided. No backup optical guidance. It used a beam -riding system which was one of the earliest radar guided missile systems.
@leslieburridge2087
@leslieburridge2087 Жыл бұрын
Hi great video and very interesting. Please give me a shout if you plan to do a video on sea-dart or and the 4.5 gun mounted on the type 42 destroyers.
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure about Rapier being the land version of SeaWolf?
@colinbarron4
@colinbarron4 Жыл бұрын
Rapier is not the land based version of Seawolf. The only connection between the two is that later versions of Seawolf used a missile tracking radar based on the Blindfire radar which could be fitted to some versions of Rapier.
@stephennelmes4557
@stephennelmes4557 6 ай бұрын
​​@colinbarron4 911 tracker. Older version was 910.
@iceman7975
@iceman7975 2 жыл бұрын
Falklands War the Royal Navy having to do miracles with the equipment they had. In my opinion the did a bloody good job of it. Most ships and defensive armament not all, were not apt for the task at hand. they were designed for different threats from a different era. That's the proverbial problem you can never be sure what type of war you are going to fight in the future, especially nowadays with the rapid pace of technological advancements and changing strategies . Hence by the time you build up a modern fleet to counter the threats of today the ships and missile systems might not be as effective or even obsolete by the time the last ships come into service say a decade later. Its happened before. The multi million dollar question is how to build defensive systems fast, cheaply and that are effective and adaptable without taxing too much space onboard ship. My suggestion is to invite politicians that control budget and spending and Armament and Radar designers on to a ship ,place them in harms way in a situation were the ship is being fired at ,and maybe that will inspire them to design a truly effective weapons system.😂😂. Sometimes politicians have done " in proportion" more damage to the Royal Navy and indeed to all the armed forces than missile and bullets have done at war.
@airbraker
@airbraker 6 ай бұрын
Only ever saw it something once. Most of the time it would dive straight into the water with the wings flying back onto the ship. Or it would go ballistic forcing us to turn hard to avoid it falling. One just sat on the launcher burning setting the launcher on fire. Everyone knew it was crap more faith going to the 20mm. The only time I saw it work it was in manual manual mode in the hands of a skilled gunner who hit a slow moving "sitting duck" towed target.
@icarus_falling
@icarus_falling 3 жыл бұрын
Dont diss the skyvan lol they are workhorses and survive all the messing about we do with them, and their kids and grandkids the 330 and 360
@musicman5bob
@musicman5bob 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I was a trained seacat aimer on hms Scylla and trust me it was an totally useless weapon system
@cobbler40
@cobbler40 3 жыл бұрын
I was on DLGs in the 60s armed with seaslug, SeaCat and 4.5 inch guns. I realised we had no defence against low flying aircraft with their jammers on. Also how exposed the seaslug magazine was.
@59patrickw
@59patrickw Жыл бұрын
choice of auto auto auto manual or manual manual I did sea cat trial at Frazer gunnery range as a gunnery rate in the late 1970
@stephennelmes4557
@stephennelmes4557 6 ай бұрын
​@@59patrickwI worked there in 87 while living in Dryad.
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 Ай бұрын
​@@cobbler40"With their jammers on". ROFLMAO.
@timwingham8952
@timwingham8952 6 ай бұрын
There was an acknowledged failure of RN's anti aircraft capability that only came to light during the Falklands war. Doctrine had been directed towards guided missiles as the (almost) sole defence against aircraft. Gun armament was not seen as the future. Seacat was envisaged as the replacement for the Bofors 40mm gun, with the only type of small calibre deck mounted guns planned to remain being the token Oerlikon 20mm. The RN's line of sight Seacat, near useless Seaslug, as well as the more advanced Seadart and Seawolf missiles were all in use during the Falklands war, as were their Oerlikon guns and the RAF' Regiment's Rapier missiles, but attacking Argentine aircraft still managed to penetrate the task force's defences. The relative failure of anti aircraft capability has been ascribed to two basic issues; The first was that the Navy's missile systems had all been developed to engage only one perceived threat - that of Warsaw Pact aircraft on the open seas. Defending ships anchored close in to rugged hilly coastlines (as found in the Falklands) was not a scenario ever thought likely. All RN's missile systems struggled with the situation, with some being lauched "unguided". The second was the lack of a layered defence systems integrating both missiles and guns. Almost all defence eggs were in one basket - namely missiles. The absence of enough closer range automatic gun armament was painfully evident. These days such lessons have been learned , with much improved missile capabilty and close in (gun) weapon systems such as the potent Goalkeeper and Phalanx guns being part of layered missile/gun ship defences, which still includes last ditch 20mm and 30mm automatic weapons. Let's hope we never have to put such defences to the test again. RIP all those lost in the Falklands conflict, and we must always remember those both killed and injured.
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 4 ай бұрын
The Sea Wolf and the Rapier SAMs are two very different missiles, they are not related.
@SteveJory-k7h
@SteveJory-k7h 8 ай бұрын
They could have thought of a worse name than Sea Slug, slugs arent exactly the fastest garden pests.
@Volunteer-per-order_OSullivan
@Volunteer-per-order_OSullivan 3 жыл бұрын
Probably would've been better of with DACR
@stephennelmes4557
@stephennelmes4557 6 ай бұрын
As an AB ( R ), on Arethusa 79 - 82 i worked with the PO ( Gunner ) in the ops room on the Seacat system, and i can honestly say it was shit. Should have been an ASW weapon. Complete embarrassment.
@karmpuscookie
@karmpuscookie 7 ай бұрын
Poorly researched pal, and making excuses for a below par Weapons system is nonsensical.
@TheShipYard2
@TheShipYard2 7 ай бұрын
I will have to agree with you there
@ronniefarnsworth6465
@ronniefarnsworth6465 3 жыл бұрын
Just another Bloody Awful UK weapon system !!!
@TheShrike616
@TheShrike616 3 жыл бұрын
First gen weapons usually are. It led to Sea Wolf, a far more potent weapon.
@stephennelmes4557
@stephennelmes4557 6 ай бұрын
​@TheShrike616 Yes, but about the same range. Shite.
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