12 Gauge Buckshot - Old School Style

[@SHOT_GUNNER]

I really enjoyed this one. I like to keep things simple. As a beginner these loads seem to be the ticket.

[@theshotgunscientists]

For sure

[@crankygunreviews]

I am very impressed with how well those Lee Load All's work, you make them sing. I steered away from them because they didn't have as good reviews as the Mec's, and at the time I could not find a .410 set of dies for the Lee press. Now with 3d printing you can do so much more, and it makes these so much better. I have been lucky finding my Mec presses used for around $100 each, have 3 of them now, one for each 12, 20, .410 and they work great. Your channel is not only informative, but makes my days a lot better when I am doing dull word processing at a desk all day (exaggerating of course)

[@theshotgunscientists]

I really appreciate the feedback man thanks

[@peterweikel7123]

Now that I live a in a remote area where stores and reloading supplies are not so readily accessible I have been wanting to diversify my 12g loading. This has been helpful. I will be ordering some supplies for my next trip to town so I can try a few of the things mentioned. I even picked up a single stage press to go with the progressive

[@theshotgunscientists]

Nice. I’d get a manual too they are very helpful.

[@ireland_love_life]

I really enjoyed your video. I’ve had a Lee press sitting on my Reloading bench for a few years now and watching your videos has given me the kick up the ass to start Reloading, my 12 g ☘️

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks man. It’s a lot of fun.

[@joshgreer2324]

Always a pleasure to watch you cook up the food for the range I can’t wait to shoot some of these latter today lol

[@H2obuffalo0823]

Yeah Buddy Awesome Video. I dumped a whole scoop of buffer on the bench doing exactly what you did. Thanks for not editing out the little goofs. Keeps it real for me.

[@GalloPazzesco]

Nicely done! Subscribed, bell rung, commented, upvoted, liked, shared ... may the algorithm gods smile favorably upon your channel.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks man

[@GalloPazzesco]

@@theshotgunscientists you're welcome man 👍🏾👍🏽👍🏿👍🏼

[@sharedgoogleyoutubeaccount3662]

Appreciate this! 👍

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks

[@3.eyes.open.]

You should be really careful to avoid chronic lead poisoning my man I love your content and wouldn't want you to get sick please take all the necessary precautions to avoid it brotha we care about you and your well being

[@theshotgunscientists]

No danger man I wash my hands constantly. Been doing this for years.

[@bertkilborne6464]

I was just looking for buckshot load data for X12X with a cushion - This is the only place to find it. Thanks for your help

[@theshotgunscientists]

Glad I could help

[@brianalbee4153]

Thanks for the awesome video! Just got some 00 on order so looking forward to cooking up some loads. Like the powder coat finish

[@jeffw1246]

I'll have to check out that hair curler trick. I just cast a bunch of 00 buck and got timing down so that instead of one long sprue from the Lee mould I got 6 individual sprues. Was going to put them in the pot for next time but thought hey, why not load them? Put first one in sprue point up. then place angle to angle for maximum fit-just have to weigh each payload for data. Ought to have a big tumbling effect on old magazines.

[@patrickkinney4998]

I’ve use a basic load like that. 26 grains of pro reach in fiocchi hull. X12x gas seal. Didn’t have card card wads so I used 31/2 felt cushion wads. 12 0-buck. No idea what the pressure is. Haven’t tried buffer.

[@brentmccarley2513]

Cool video i like it

[@theshotgunscientists]

I'm glad you like it

[@mikeridge]

👍🐿️

[@Krowka666]

Another good video buddy! Talking about old school, you ever dip your toes into black powder or BP substitute loads? I’m going to start loading triple 7 with fiber wads, BB’s, #1 buck and #4 buck

[@theshotgunscientists]

We load pyrodex all the time and I’ve actually started making my own black

[@Krowka666]

@@theshotgunscientists hell yeah! Same here

[@sylviacisneros5474]

Hi, we are new to your channel, just became subscribers. We are enjoying your content. Can you tell us which is your "hair curler trick" video, we are very interested in seeing it. Thank you

[@theshotgunscientists]

10 gauge buckshot range testing part 1 at 20:50 or the more recent video 16 gauge 1 3/4 ounce tss reload at the begginging

[@maxwilliams7654]

The last 2¾ red hull load you did was that an estate hull also

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yep

[@raysherrod9322]

If you will take the primer holder out ( little bolt looking object) And go get a stove bolt 1/4 to 7/16 shorter and put in place you can push the resizing ring much better. Thanks for all the good info and watch and record all that I can.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks man good idea

[@raysherrod9322]

I found that out reloading some 3 inch Extra high Brass Shells.

[@WayniacKT]

very helpful bro! Thanks for this one. Could you just put a shot card on top to save the fingernail polish trick?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yes

[@Recargasygambiarras]

Friend, I really like your videos, I also have a channel for refills and testing refills in Brazil. What white powder is this that the friend used between the lead spheres? Strong hug.

[@theshotgunscientists]

It’s called buffer

[@vrodrider1978]

What do you recommend on a good trap shoot load considering what’s available today. I use to use hodgden clays with 7.5 shot an clay buster wads but Clays powder is not available much these days

[@theshotgunscientists]

Winchester AA super handicap, red dot, titewad/titegroup, high gun, perfect pattern, e3, wst, green dot, and a few more powders will all do very similar to clays.

[@rsvp2rip570]

In the 8 pellet 000 load you used 23 grains of Longshot. Did you try larger charge weights? Did you find that more powder gave too much pressure or just patterned bad? I would think that you could go to 27 or 28 grains. Great videos, keep up the work.

[@theshotgunscientists]

I meant to say 28 not 23.

[@ClarkesonTheMarksman]

Morning Tyler. I was just wondering about load data for hs-6, 1 1/4 oz loads. Hodgdon do not list any for 2 3/4 straight wall cheddite hulls/primers but they do for fiocchi, federal hoa/gold medal using winchester primers. it's listing between 32 - 34 grains on the federals and 35 for fiocchi's. Could I use 32 grains with a cheddite hull/primer, gaulandi green ssw or mg42 and 12 pellets of .31 cal? Have you loaded much up with hs-6?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Most of us use fiocchi/Cheddite/rio data interchangeably if the data is under 10,000 psi

[@maxwilliams7654]

Is the orange hull you used in the second load a orange monarch hull?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Fiocchi

[@patrickrussell2877]

I'm just getting into shotshell reloading. I've been metallic reloading for over 26 years, and I'm realizing that probably makes me just smart enough to be dangerous. Shotshell reloading is a whole different animal. On the 3" cheddite 15 pellet 00 load, if I wanted to drop that to 12 pellets is it as simple as adding another 1/4 inch fiber wad? I made a dummy round with Cheddite 3" hull, 29.5 grains of longshot, x12x gas seal, 1/2 inch fiber wad + 1/4 inch fiber wad, 12 pellets 33 cal. 00, clear plastic overshot disk with roll crimp. Everything stacks up nicely. The shot I have is Hornady. They are true 33 cal., (measured them myself) and weigh 53.2 grains each, 12 of them is 638.4 grains. If my calculations are correct, just shy of 1 1/2 ounces. About 18 grains shy. Just about right to buffer them if I want to. What would be a max charge to work up to? I simply cannot find any data with that payload weight and those components in my books. My gun is gas operated and I'm only going to work it up to where it reliably cycles it. Or as Johnny would say, am I already about to "blow my face off"?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yes dropping out a few pellets for some fiber wadding is fine. Max charge for 1.5 ounces is 30.6 with longshot and it’s 1310 fps 11,600 psi. Hodgdon has free load data on their website for all of their powder. The 1.5 ounce loads are typically for 2 3/4” shells but work great in 3” with extra fiber wadding for more cushion. Lowers pressure.

[@rickm5853]

Thanks for the video. Please link to your curling iron video. I did a search and could not find it on your channel. Sounds real interesting. God bless

[@theshotgunscientists]

10 gauge buckshot at the range part 1 skip to 20:45

[@rickm5853]

Great trick . Thanks a bunch.@@theshotgunscientists

[@michaelhenry462]

great video thanks, im new to this, why powder coat the balls and why use buffer

[@theshotgunscientists]

Powder coat prevents lead smearing in the barrel, buffer helps with patterns

[@ianpaul6931]

Hey great video, wondering what kind of scale you are using there?

[@theshotgunscientists]

It’s not branded, my uncle had it laying around and gave it to me when I needed a scale. If you watch our newer videos I’m using a cheap Amazon fuzion scale that is far more precise. I’d go with it.

[@ianpaul6931]

Thanks for the reply! Keep the videos coming!!!

[@maxwilliams7654]

Are the peddles removed from the green super mini for your zombie round

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yes

[@user-he9it3gl7n]

Can yall do a video on powder coating buckshot

[@theshotgunscientists]

Wade rush has a really good one and we use the exact same process he does. Bubba rountree outdoors.

[@brentmccarley2513]

I have a old blue ribbon 12 gage i think its made by stevens i load with black powder with lead shot will it harm the barrel to shot daisy bb's in it ?

[@theshotgunscientists]

You have to use steel shot wads and if it’s got a full choke nothing larger than #4 steel and keep the pressures on the low side

[@user-tv8bf5xd6u]

Hey Tyler On that 1 1/4 oz. Load with 31 grn. Of Long shot @ around 1375fps. How much would you back of the Long shot to get it closer to the 1200 fps or even a little less. Shooting double barrel so no cycling concerns. Thanks Steve

[@theshotgunscientists]

25 or 26 grains.

[@jacobackley502]

You ever do these with longshot? I was thinking of copycatting the factory 1 buck 16 pellet loads with some of my fiocchi hulls

[@theshotgunscientists]

I think most of those were done with longshot

[@jacobackley502]

@@theshotgunscientists yep commented to early

[@H2obuffalo0823]

Oh I can't find fiber wads in stock anywhere. I did find some made for black powder brass 12 guage hulls. They are pre lubed with some kind of bore butter. Have you tried these? That are really tight in the fiocci hulls and kind of fall apart. Your thoughts please. Thanks.

[@theshotgunscientists]

I haven’t tried those but ballistic products has 1/2” fiber cushion wads available in all gauges right now I just ordered some 2 days ago

[@H2obuffalo0823]

@@theshotgunscientists Thanks Man Loving these loading videos! these

[@eddiewhite9759]

I've used the 12ga waxed 1/2 in wads and they are a bit over sized for plastic hulls. I just trimmed them a bit and made them work. I have the right ones waiting in my cart at ballistic Products right now. In 20 16 and 12 ga...

[@ClarkesonTheMarksman]

ive noticed that the ssw in a cheddite hull is loose and causes powder migration. is that a massive issue?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Use a 1” square piece of napkin or paper towel under the wad to stop it from happening

[@ClarkesonTheMarksman]

@@theshotgunscientists I've watched you and Wade use that nifty trick. But thought it looked kind of ugly in a clear hull. A tiny bit of powder migration isnt going to affect pressures that much to cause a blooper?

[@Stanley-xc4yc]

Dang! 31 grains long shot powder, with cheddite primer ? Did your shoulder hurt?

[@theshotgunscientists]

No, these loads enough nothing for use these days. We’re used to shooting 2 3/4 ounce loads in 3.5” and 3 ounces or more in 10 gauge.

[@Stanley-xc4yc]

@@theshotgunscientists well I'm jealous.🤠 Amazing content.

[@Hal-zf9wg]

Enjoy your program on KZbin. But has anyone ever told you that you look like a young Travis Trent.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yep all the time. Also Ronnie van zant

[@markpurifoy8302]

I got the 10 ga fiber wads. For the life of me I can't get them into the shell without destroying them or have them come apart.

[@theshotgunscientists]

You have too then flatten them with something. I’m only using the 10 gauge fiber wads because I can tear them up for use in other gauges. If you’re just loading 12 gauge or are a normal person, get the 12 gauge wads.

[@markpurifoy8302]

@theshotgunscientists they where out so tried using them as in some of your vids. Thanks again.

[@robert4027]

is crimping important and why please ? I haven't done it to any my reloads just cardboard and glue

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yes. You need something to hold the shot in and a consistent crimp will get you more consistent velocity and pressure.

[@MP-fl2xe]

Can I use steel shot in 12 g?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yes

[@larryking606]

Hey Tyler, I have just started to powder coat my buckshot, there’s so many ways to do it and I would like to know how you do yours ! When you get the time , I would like to know your thoughts on it ! Take Care and Be Safe

[@theshotgunscientists]

Look up bubba rountree outdoors on here, I use the exact same method as him. I use a coffee can instead of a brass tumbler though.

[@larryking606]

Thank you very much , Tyler , I do appreciate it ! Oh by the way , Merry Christmas and pass that on to Josh ! I am still not doing well with Holidays . I have seen ole Bubba 's video on powder coating !

[@larryking606]

Thank you very much , Tyler , I do appreciate it ! Oh by the way , Merry Christmas and pass that on to Josh ! I am still not doing well with Holidays . I have seen ole Bubba 's video on powder coating !

[@larryking606]

Thank you very much , Tyler , I do appreciate it ! Oh by the way , Merry Christmas and pass that on to Josh ! I am still not doing well with Holidays . I have seen ole Bubba 's video on powder coating !

[@larryking606]

Thank you very much , Tyler , I do appreciate it ! Oh by the way , Merry Christmas and pass that on to Josh ! I am still not doing well with Holidays . I have seen ole Bubba 's video on powder coating !

[@MP-fl2xe]

What’s the powder he puts over the red shot? What is purpose?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Buffer, it keeps the shot more round which leads to better patterns

[@MP-fl2xe]

@@theshotgunscientists Thanks for the info… I am gathering data and tools the make my own shot loads. This is very new to me.

[@theshotgunscientists]

@@MP-fl2xe no problem man

[@jonleone777]

Can you do a vid just like this one but with blue dot

[@theshotgunscientists]

Sure can

[@jonleone777]

@@theshotgunscientists that would be awesomel

[@patrickrussell2877]

My apologies sir. I went to edit and add to my question about the estate and cheddite hulls and inadvertantly deleted my post.

[@michaelhenry462]

what does fingernail polish do

[@theshotgunscientists]

Seals the shell

[@michaelhenry462]

doent mess with it opening when fired@@theshotgunscientists

[@theshotgunscientists]

@@michaelhenry462 no

[@michaelhenry462]

thank you so much for the responses

[@attilasantha3371]

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[@theshotgunscientists]

This is one of the first few videos I made when I started filming, wasn’t comfortable on camera yet. I’m far from a beginner lol.

[@johnnorman7708]

Some states have prohibitions against using buckshot for deer hunting. The laws have been on the books for decades. Nobody even knows why in most cases. Some say it's not reliable enough and therefore "unsporting" and inhumane Others say it's because it's so deadly that it's not "sporting" enough. That's ridiculous. Guess the state governing or regulatory body needs petitioning to correct that in light of there being no scientific or practical reason to justify a buckshot prohibition.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yeah that one never made sense to me either. I guess one way they could be looking at it is #4 buck being .24 caliber may not be effective enough at longer ranges. No reason to prohibit the larger pellets though.

[@johnnorman7708]

@@theshotgunscientists You would think that if they finally legalized .410 slug and most handgun cartridges, that buckshot wouldn't be such a big deal either. I honestly think there must be a personal bias against or for some stuff in "regulations". Of course I remember a time in Colorado when .357 Magnum was not legal as a handgun round for deer. Theoretically was not powerful enough. That had to be a deliberate bias to eliminate the most common center-fire magnum revolver cartridge ever used for deer.