Is it OVER? | 2024 Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio

[@TorqueTestChannel]

There's no weapon quite like an Alfa with a warranty

[@kylem324]

I’d be worried that my warranty period might outlive the dealer network. 6800 cars! That would be a healthy volume for… 10 dealers?

[@BlakeJoy]

I just found out TTC is a TST fan, both excellent channels!

[@jamesterakazis6624]

So am I to assume you want an M 3 out of warranty ? You're brave dawg

[@andeleputo89]

Lol modern M3’s are actually reliable af. Those engines handles tremendous amount of boost with no issues stop living in the past

[@jamesterakazis6624]

@@andeleputo89 You're judging modern Alfas off the rep of Alfettas from 30 years ago DAWG !!! LMFAO

[@e.heckscher1576]

"A little behind on electronics, technology and gizmos" sounds like heaven to me.

[@Finnish_Skydiver]

This was also the fastest production 4-door sedan in the world when it came out: It broke the Nürburgring record. It’s not just awesome to look at. -It’s also ballistically fast.

[@665Thunder]

exactly, the germans took years to fill in the gap with this car, then of course they made it, one wouldn't expect otherwise from people who were able to survive the dieselgate... (read: with all the money and resources they have)

[@fredwilliams7893]

​@665Thunder Um caddillac ctsv says other wise. Broke the Nurburgring first!! And no I do not own one or being biased. It's just facts

[@copeautomotive]

Stelvio broke the record as well several years ago. While their records have fallen, it’s a testament to Alfa’s heritage… even as the underdog to the Germans.

[@665Thunder]

@@copeautomotive Alfa is an underdog to the germans only when it comes to economic resources. As a brand Alfa is as much heritage as you can get. I'll give you some examples: - Audi is a rebranded Vw which eventually started making so much money which allowed them to make some good stuff recently. Their brand is 90% a result of their marketing campaign of the past 20 years. - BMW little to no competition heritage, have been improving their reputation in the 90s with some higher spec models, before then they were just average, though focusing on RWD and good build quality - VW is a generalist brand, really no brand appeal at all, if not for claimed through marketing reliability (was true at some point of their history). I can't believe how people can still choose this brand after the dieselgate (I'd rather buy a sub brand such as Seat or Skoda instead) - Mercedes is probably the strongest brand of the germans, great heritage and solid cars, never really had direct competition in their pursuit of elegance, comfort and quality, until they started to really struggle with it in the 2000s and never recovered back to the former glory - Porsche is the brand with probably the best heritage, a great brand with strong racing background, credibility and image. A reference for every car enthusiast Alfa, Lancia and possibly Ferrari are, in my opinion and not only, the greatest car brands in history. If you look at the origins Ferrari came from Alfa Romeo, but went to other lengths into the luxury sportscars market. The tech, performance and design offered by Alfa and Lancia in the mass market, were unmatched by any german for decades, basically from the 1910s until the end of the 80s after which all cars started to follow a standardization and had to be made to make money, rather than dreams, which the Germans excelled at more than anyone else. Just wanted to provide a bit of context to Alfa being an "underdog" :)

[@bigchimpin4215]

Zero marketing, poor dealer support, no community involvement and minimal after market support.

[@ourfutureisdark]

most important comment is right here

[@MB-zt9eo]

Do you need Marketing to buy a car?? 😱 main things is to have the right spare parts / a good person who is able to manage the car.

[@bigchimpin4215]

@@MB-zt9eo when you have an awful reputation and go missing for your years, you need to market and rebrand yourself… I don’t think you understand how hard it is to get parts for Alfas in the states. Judging by your comment, I’m guessing you aren’t from here and you haven’t had to deal with these issues.

[@MB-zt9eo]

@@bigchimpin4215 This is a proper dealer issue. Not a marketing issue. Agree with You about dealers. My 4C has the same problem but I use Scara73. or if you want Gms or Alfaworks or Romeo Ferraris. In US i have seen a lot of good not official mechanics. Giulia 🍀 is car not for daily but to keep for the future as collector It is a good wine to test time to time and enjoy. Waiting the day that Stellantis will sell Alfa to a good Player who care about this Historic Brand.

[@alpe6228]

Just an unreliable piece of shit sadly,just get an m3 and you are good to go.

[@jackofharts9]

Used Giulia Quads are turning into decent deals on the used market. 2017-2019 being had for low 30s. Somewhat underrated in my opinion.

[@Bronilli]

Just picked mine up. Worth every penny

[@jackofharts9]

@@Bronilli hope you like it, I could see myself picking on up in the future

[@pereldh5741]

Just bought mine! Manual ’16 for 50k €. Think its a good deal going forward

[@HallowellsSpeedShop]

I don’t think I’d pickup a ‘17 or ‘18 due to some of the issues. Just some voltage & fuel pump issues. ‘19’s they fixed. ‘20’s they added CarPlay. ‘21 they added Port Injection to go along with the DI. So ideally you’d want a ‘21.

[@Bronilli]

@ mine is ‘18 and it has car play

[@stickvortex]

These Alfas are the most slept on performance cars in recent years. The driving dynamics it has cannot be matched by any of its competitors. If you enjoy driving, and by that I mean dynamic driving, you will love this car.

[@The11901]

It’s easy to fall asleep on a car that spends months in the shop…

[@mjsmotorsport]

Thanks for keeping that mentality alive and well, helped me get a deep discount on the best car I have owned to date

[@Bronilli]

@@mjsmotorsport hahahahaha

[@The11901]

@@mjsmotorsportHappy to support your gambling habit.

[@mjsmotorsport]

@@Bronilli 😉

[@wheelj81]

I’m so glad you did the review on this. You tend to be more understanding of who would want to buy the car, and why. Matt gets in and tries to make his opinions become objective truths. I like your style better.

[@drtone]

lol

[@m87orion]

Yeah I don't listen to the podcast that much because of that very reason.

[@jeffrey-f]

Hahaha made me laugh but true. Matt thinks he’s car royalty

[@cbotten106]

I dislike when any commentator does that, tbh. Matt's far from the worst on that score though, but point taken.

[@wheelj81]

Hate to have kicked off a pile-on-Matt session. I like him and his perspectives are valid from a certain point of view. But the thing that I think gets lost in his messaging is the intent of the car vs is it or isn’t the best option in its class. When talking about sports cars, everyone would buy a Porsche if the only thing that mattered was performance and usability. Objectively, they do that better than anyone. But sometimes you just want an Aston, or a Lotus, or an Alfa BECAUSE they are imperfect. Zack nailed that. It was just fun to drive for him and he’d rather that than a perfectly designed infotainment system.

[@tomsmith8971]

Being in Europe, I’ve had fewer issues with parts and availability. A few months ago, I picked up my Verde Montreal Giulia Quadrifoglio (QV). Before that, I extensively test-drove the BMW G80, but in the end, the Alfa stole my heart. Here’s why: Design: I know looks are subjective, but for me, the Giulia is one of the most beautiful four-door saloons on the market. Its proportions, curves, and unique styling stand out in a sea of "same-same" sedans. Driving Experience: The Giulia feels more engaging and rewarding to drive. Yes, the G80 might be faster on paper, but on real roads, the difference is irrelevant. In an era where EVs are hitting sub-3 second 0-60 times, those numbers have lost their meaning anyway. What matters most is how a car makes you feel behind the wheel, and this is where the Giulia truly shines. If I want to go fast, I’ll do that on a racetrack. For daily driving, the emotional connection is far more important. Interior & Simplicity: I actually love that the interior feels "last-gen" in some aspects. I have physical knobs and buttons for everything I need, and Android Auto works seamlessly. I don’t need massive touchscreens or gesture controls. The smaller integrated screen suits me perfectly, and I prefer it over the oversized tablets found in newer cars. Exclusivity: I enjoy the fact that the Giulia is rare. It's not something you see on every corner. People think I’m crazy for spending $120K on an Alfa, but that’s part of the charm. It’s a decision driven by passion, not conformity. Reliability: The so-called "QV reliability issues" are wildly overhyped. I’ve had no major issues, and I feel like most of the horror stories come from people who have never even driven one. Proper maintenance and care go a long way, as with any performance car. In the end, I chose soul, character, and driving engagement over pure numbers and tech gimmicks. No regrets.

[@mjsmotorsport]

@@tomsmith8971 most accurate post in this entire comment section. A lot of it is over hyped because we are wired to gravitate towards negativity, and boy does social media and KZbin comments showcase that.

[@rvc25]

The reliability issues all stem from that 2017 car and driver extended review of the QV. kind of a BS take on the car considering Ethel age of the article at this point.

[@aryanenzo]

2024 QV owner here. The classico gauge cluster's rev go clockwise. You don't need to be in race mode. The infotainment screen is significantly brighter than my GR Supra's, and it is VERY easy to read thanks to it being a matte coating, which also explains the slight grain. There's never been any condition where I couldn't read the screen. There's no downside to the display because anyone would use Apple Carplay or Android Auto anyways. I've only used the main UI to set the car up and that was it. Not every car needs a 15 inch tablet stuck on the dash. This display is perfectly integrated and functionally simple, easy to use and it really does just works, and that goes for the rest of the car as well. Everything works as expected and it is not a complicated car to use. Carplay works more reliably than my 2021 ND's for example. I absolutely love my Giulia. I have extended warranty, and even if there's issues in the future, it is worth it because its such a pleasure to commute with and take it to twisty roads. It's the only car out of 458, 360CS, Cayman GT4, GR supra, BRZ, ND that i've driven spiritedly to make me literally say "WOW" and "YES YES YES" in the corners. It is magnificent. Just perfect.

[@exaflop]

you saying the giulia is more fun in corners than a gt4 or 458?

[@aryanenzo]

​@@exaflop The GT4's issue is the long gearing. I can't really shift the car, its always in second gear because the gearing is too long. The engine doesn't sound good either until you're well above 5000 RPM which is hard to get to in public roads in 2nd gear and above. The steering ratio was longer than the 458 or Giulia's but it felt precise and communicative. Otherwise the car just felt sterile in the corners somehow, I don't really think its a fun car for the streets/canyons. Its a good track car. The 458 spider didn't have the chassis or steering feel I wanted. The steering was sharp, and precise, but nearly zero feedback. I had absolutely no idea whats going on with the front end. The throttle was way too sensitive, and I had difficulty modulating it in corners. The exhaust valves kept opening and closing as well abruptly. The car felt very digitized for some reason. It just wouldn't be my first pick for a driver's car. The Giulia QV I have has been a more complete package than either one of those two for casual street/canyon fun. I can only fault it for its brakes, as i've cooked my pads/rotors in a short time with spirited driving. The car needs better pads. The steering has better feel than the 458 but worse than the GT4, however the car just has this magic to it, it just flows into the corners and changes direction so smoothly and predictably. Imagine an S curve. The way the Giulia weight transfers and changes directions through it, is magic, its just *right*. I'll never forget when I took my first corner in the Giulia, a corner im familiar with. I kept saying YES YES WOW YES. This chassis is absolutely magnificent. It's really hard to believe its 3600-3700 lbs. I had a GR supra prior, and they're not even on the same planet as driver's cars. Think of the Giulia as a 4 door 510hp BRZ. That's how it feels, all while being such a comfortable commuter. It's a very, very special car, and more than the sum of its parts.

[@exaflop]

@@aryanenzo wow. nice feedback. drove the 458 on track many many years ago and can't remember anymore how it felt tbh. but would love to drive the giulia..sounds like its an awesome car! they should pay you for the great review tho:)

[@jamesterakazis6624]

@@exaflop Original owner of custom ordered 2017 Giulia Quad and the answer is YES !! Time for math class dawg... Porsche + Audi = Glorified VW

[@solrubrum]

I have a 24 QV as well. I was looking into picking up a 458. You really enjoy the QV more than the 458?

[@Food_n_Driver365]

It ain’t over. I have over 100,000 miles on my GQV. It’s got even more to give. It’s such a thrill 💯

[@inline6-b586]

That dig at johhny depp was outta nowhere🤣🤣

[@jamesjross]

I think that was more a dig at Amber Heard.

[@secularist1969]

catching strays

[@Petrospect]

I do really love these Giulias, in many ways it feels more at home than new BMWs to this E36 owner. That might be saying something about the plastics but god, a Quadrifoglio would just be sublime. The same paddles are in a Ti and they're just brilliant. It'll be a shame if such a storied badge is lost to Stellantis troubles.

[@papapetad]

I really like what they did with the design on these. Great piece of car sculpture.

[@theclutch19]

11:40 OMG I LOVE THIS "How many of us haven't pulled a Johnny Depp and overlooked glaring problems in the pursuit of beautiful excitement."

[@Thatcardude207]

I own my second QV which is a 2023 in Montreal green as shown in the video. I have owned and currently own cars as on my channel. I think I can say this is one of the best cars I have ever driven or owned. Besides its gorgeous looks, the direct steering, Smooth power delivery and the engine sound is quite special. This is my third alfa (with the third one being a Stelvio 2.0) thats a combined miles of 86K on all three vehicles and never had to take it to the shop for repair not even once. Still love driving QV to this day when I got my first one in May 2017.

[@cbotten106]

Nice that you've got a flunky to take the cars over to the local Alfa store for you, dude. The've got the red double arrows down (on reliability) from CR for some reason. Oh yeah, that's it, they break a lot.

[@wcmontana]

Your reviews just keep getting better and better Zach. This was an excellent one.

[@MattJelonek]

You buy an Alfa with your heart, not your head. Truly the only reason. Zack, great presence on screen. Talent that really needs a better video crew or at least more than one camera.

[@uksharif]

The new Alfas, you can genuinely buy with both. If you don't care about not having the LATEST technology (and frankly, I'd rather buttons than these iPads-on-the-dash situations), they're finally ok again. Helps that they look so good on the road compared to their competitors

[@wallacem41atgmail]

Alfa Romeos are reliable? Who knew?! I've been driving them since 1969. It's always about the driving dynamics.

[@DanDan-tt6gv]

True, because if you give a thought… you wouldn’t buy a Stellantis product.

[@CarsandCorey]

I just got back from visiting the Alfa Romeo museum in Milan. Such a wonderful and storied brand that continues to make lovely cars! I know Matt loves to hate on the 4C, but I absolutely adore mine, and the Giulia line is a great carline that I wish made a bigger splash in the States. Now being left with the Stelvio, Tonale, and Junior (and the sold-out 33 Stradale - that doesn't really count), I am worried we'll only see crossovers from Alfa in the States, if anything at all. I hope they don't go the way of Lancia, reduced to some crappy badge-engineered Stellantis products.

[@davidromba3584]

Glad to see you revisit this car. I've had my QV for almost 4 years, and am about to tick over 60,000 miles. It's been rock solid and a riot to daily drive. My continuing theory is the ones that have trouble are the ones that are rarely driven because their owners treat them like a Pagani. That said, the dealer network does suck big time.

[@lakid042]

Utterly loved my 2018 Giulia (especially once modded). One of the few cars in my life that I looked over my shoulder to admire it every single time I got out of it

[@Casey_J96]

It’s really a shame these are going away. I love my Giulia Ti and plan to keep it as long as I possibly can!

[@محمدجباری-ث1ر]

These cars are awesome 👌 👏.

[@محمدجباری-ث1ر]

That's an awesome car. Keep it 😊.

[@navyrotc2012]

I got the extended warranty on my QV. I can’t imagine giving it up right now

[@pereldh5741]

Zach in my favourite car, this is X-mas! ❤ Thing is, when it came out it beat the M3 in every measurable aspect, top speed, 0-60… Since then there’s been really two (2!) new M3’s… And its still the one I’d buy! 😎🇮🇹 (actually I’ve just bought a 2016 manual 6-speed, more fun than auto IMHO. E92 M3 ZF box, basically) Electric gremlins are usually because the whole system is set to a minimum threshold voltage a bit too high. Which means when the battery sinks below say, 12V, all kinds of warning lights etc show up, scaring everyone, or it wont start. Just get an AGM battery (they don’t have one!) or use trickle-charger if it’s still for a week.

[@OdyTypeR]

I loved hearing the 4 leaf clover's backstory. But 1:26 it wasn't so lucky for the bug.

[@ddawkins36]

Awesome video, thank you! I’ve owned 3 Evo IX’s, an e46 & e90 M3 and a F87 M2 comp and to be perfectly honest, the Quadrifoglio is one of the best cars I have ever owned. The handling is by far right up there with the IX, absolutely tenacious grip and prowess. The tech isn’t an issue with CarPlay, I bought the car to drive, I have a computer at home to surf. Let’s get back to driving. ❤

[@jbrandon302]

So it’s the worst handling car according to your list?

[@Henriksson22]

I have an Stelvio qv and i was actually on my way yo switch to a m2 comp. After the test drive of the comp i just felt how good the qvs are. I ended up driving my stelvio home again.

[@ronincamera1328]

Amazing video.. Zack always kills it!!!

[@vladimirmirkovic5314]

That was an A+ review. Always found you knowledgeable and entertaining when with Matt, but after this solo review, you’re arguably top three in the business.

[@RomansAutos]

For some reason, the Alfa marketing team made this the best kept secret

[@محمدجباری-ث1ر]

😮!

[@Ben-bg2eg]

Alfa has a marketing team?

[@محمدجباری-ث1ر]

@Ben-bg2eg maybe!

[@sneakybandera8894]

@@Ben-bg2egtrying to be funny when a 2.0 giulia can gap your egg😭

[@Ben-bg2eg]

@@sneakybandera8894 Press X to doubt

[@TheDominic1612]

The blue colour on the alfa is so beautiful😊

[@silent_unseen2099]

Verde Montreal Tri-Coat, bellissimo! Arrivederci. 🍀🏁

[@lambrosstamos4494]

This gorgeous green color is also underrated compared to the red one. It might not make business or financial sense, yet I would love a Carbahn(ed) by Steve Dinan Giulia.

[@mattlittlej]

As an Alfa owner these things are grossly underrated. They drive like BMWs used to (if not better) and the lack of screens is a benefit since you still get physical controls. And as long as you stay on top of the maintenance and drop in a better battery they're much more reliable than they were 25 years ago.

[@wheelj81]

Yes! Finally! Thank you! Can’t wait to watch.

[@jindip9409]

The last time I was this early Matt almost crashed a Alfa quad

[@stickvortex]

That damn tight right hander… lmao

[@the_canyon_carver]

I love my 2020 QV. It’s the daily that can do the daily thing and rip up ACH. My C5 Z06 and Elise are great weekend cars but I find myself taking the QV out a whole lot on weekend drives now…

[@mjsmotorsport]

@@the_canyon_carver I hear you. The Alfa is the car I tend to grab keys for first.

[@sarahdell4042]

If you live near proper roads. It doesn’t get much better than an Elise!

[@carlosb6269]

@@sarahdell4042real drivers know this. It’s not always about hp/tq figures.

[@albroumand]

I’ve had a Quad since 2019 as daily driver and no problems. I have and will continue enjoying every mile 😊

[@loopba]

It’s an amazing, thrilling and beautiful driving experience. Must to drive one to really know. Pure love. Still want one..

[@YazAMG]

Still in love with this Italian, even with all the baggage. ❤

[@PekkaImmonen]

Spot on review! 🙏 We have had a moped version (200 hp) of Giulia for five years now. I still love it, extremely fun to drive, really excels on curvy roads. One car reviewer nailed it in my opinion by saying that whereas German cars feel like they are on the rails when cornering, Alfas feel like a ballet dancer. As for reliability, the only headache comes from the battery and it's connectors. Bad contact will give a ton of false positives, which can be avoided by keeping battery connectors clean. Then of course having a good service helps a lot. I use Auto Milano in Helsinki, which does an amazing job keeping Alfas in good condition.

[@erickbaka]

Just wanted to thank Zack (had to look up your name, so not a previous fan or anything)! This was a masterfully done review (and I watch a LOT of car YT) and I found myself thoroughly enjoying it. Like the Alfa you reviewed, I can not point out exactly what made this review SO GOOD, but it is!

[@gunsandcommissions]

Jeremy and the old Top Gear group did everything in their power to keep Alfa alive.

[@stevemartegani]

I wasn't expecting a discussion about Cracker Plants in a video today

[@mikemiller4072]

Great review Zack. Keep up the passion.

[@craigyirush3492]

Had a Ti Sport and I’d say the driving dynamics were more than pretty good. Best 4 door sedan I’ve ever driven. And as for the tech, it had car play and everything else I needed. And unlike modern BMWs the screen was integrated into the dash elegantly, not stuck on top looking like an abandoned tablet! We’ll miss the Giulias when they are gone …

[@stevemiller1626]

Alfa did what they do about every 20-30 years. Drop an absolute banger then peace out. The Giorgio platform is so much better than any other platform, and it's nearly 10 years old.

[@jbrandon302]

Better than the alpha chassis cars? Better than an m3 comp? With its brake by wire? Doubt it.

[@meissiah]

Alfa is making a mistake. The drop in sales rest entirely on Carlos Tavares shoulder. The formula is correct. It needs updates and support.

[@simonmorty8344]

Fantastic car and only car thinking upgrading my Kia Stinger too. And Zach is becoming such a good motoring jounalist its refreshing to watch him just get better with each show. Great presentation, great knowledge and a true petrol head..keep up the great reviews Zach!

[@PhantomMark]

Had my quad 4 years next summer - not had a single problem, never selling, love it to bits...I still love my E46 M3, but the Alfa has a soul almost unlike any other modern car now, apart from maybe a Ferrari 458 - that's on my long term want list :D

[@stefan-stocksmadesimple5241]

Buy it because it's different, because it sounds different, because it looks different, buy it to help the company..

[@AP-cc1uw]

Got a 2024 Carbon Edition in Rosso Etna. Going to be a forever car for me. The M3 just isn’t interesting to me at all.

[@gregs8685]

Great review, and great point about variable ratio steering. The Porsche 997 introduced variable ratio steering and it was a big loss in feel from the 996.

[@charliecleanup]

Thank you 🙏

[@ncarters]

Love Zack’s reviews 💯

[@albertcervantes3953]

The quadrofolio has been my dream car since it first came out

[@CarSpex]

That green looks awesome.

[@nberkel]

I think the biggest fail of this car is the marketing behind it. Sort of just dumped off and left to fend for itself...

[@jjpg2000]

Love these cars.

[@NOrlando952]

😭😭😭😭 I’ve had two TI Sports in a row. My current one is a 2019 Q2 with the LSD and adaptive suspension. It’s so much fun. I also work for BMW, I choose to drive an Alfa Romeo.

I want a manual wagon version of this. We DO have a manual in Europe though. And it's awesome.

[@scottjeffrey3347]

And us Alfisti across the pond HATE you for reminding us…

[@stevenwilliams1805]

I also still think it's one of the most beautiful sedans I've ever seen.

[@deanarmstrong8185]

In this car review, I learned about the science of saltines!😂 very good breakdown. These cars have an emotional soft spot and many peoples hearts.😊

[@MW-gi1tr]

bought mine new in 2018. had it for six years and 38k miles. not one problem. not one issue. traded it in on my 2024 Cayman GTS 4.0 and got 36k from the dealer. pretty positive experience from start to finish

[@Jay-xr3sb]

How does it compare to the cayman?

[@MW-gi1tr]

@Jay-xr3sb totally different cars but indo think the Alfa is certainly a better all arounder. really wanted a manual transmission which is the only reason i got rod of it.

[@stevelovescars]

I have a 2019 Giulia Ti Sport. It lacks the visceral thrill and noise of the Quadrifoglio, but it's quick, efficient and the suspension and handling is sublime. It's also comfortable and, so far, very reliable. I do have a 100k mile Mopar warranty I haven't had to use yet and am not exactly sure who will work on it as the nearest Alfa dealer is now 2.5 hours away. But it does make me smile every time I drive it. If you're brave, the used values for these make them a rare bargain.

[@MNlotus1]

I have owned a Maserati Quattroporte since 2008. I love the car and still drive it today. It is getting old and still has Ferrari prices for anything that goes wrong. I still get compliments on a 15 year old car. It has been hard to find something special to replace it but I think this video convinced me that I need one of these!

[@moey505]

I have previously had 3 M cars and 2 AMGs. My Giulia QV is my favorite by a long shot. The steering feel and communication through corners is incredible for a sedan.

[@johnking8288]

Why it feels better on it's feet is the suspension; it has aluminum double a-arms on the front, which is the best suspension for handling and ride quality.....that's why the Ferrari designers use it. BMW uses MacPherson struts that I believe are cheaper to make.

[@xtnuser5338]

Double a-arms does have the POTENTIAL for being the best handling design, because of how the geometry can be. But it's not a guaranteed thing. The geometry has to be done right specific to all the other variables of a car's dynamics. Double a-arms does not inherently make ride quality better. That depends more on spring and damping rates being suitably chosen to compliment the mass, the wheelbase, the resonant frequencies, etc. It's certainly possible to have a soft and smooth ride on MacPherson struts and have a shitty harsh ride on double a-arms. Neither handling capability nor ride quality is just magically inherent in a given type of suspension design.

[@ded1333]

I've been shredding tires on my hopped up 2019 stelvio qf for years. Literally zero mechanical issues. I'm talking an average of 2-3 launches a week and multiple pulls well past go straight to jail speed. Not a single hiccup. It's starting to get interior rattles as we approach 60k miles though and I've had the carbon fiber replaced once. Still easily the best car I've ever owned and there's a lamborghini in my garage

[@CarEnthused]

I loved mine. I stand by it. Best performance sedan available (for now).

[@bcbw07]

There’s one at my apt building, I appreciate it more now.

[@flush_entity]

I leased an Alfa simply because of reliability. By year 2, my trunk hydraulics stopped working, engine made a weird noise (brought it back to dealer to fix, they fixed.) Weird probably with ignition button saying i dont have the key on me, fixed via dealer too. TMPS issues, lights keep poppin up saying PSI is low, check with my own TMPS machine and its fine, fixed via dealership. Otherwise, engine and tranny (transmission, just in case someone take offense.) were mostly fine and helluva fun to drive! Last two years i had it, it had no issues.

[@N_1812]

Leased a 4cyl AWD Giulia from 2018-21. Beautiful car, was more engaging than the competition at the time, and… had strange issues. Significant oil leak at 30k miles and one corner was on a different tire (!!) than the other three from the factory (or dealer). In that time, the values dropped like stones, dealers dried up, and the cars basically didn’t change. The lease was a good deal and the right call on every front, but that was a special little sport sedan.

[@scottjeffrey3347]

2021 Giulia Ti Sport, black/red I have 41k miles and it’s my daily. I won’t ever get rid of it because for several reasons-practical, fun as hell to drive, and it’s my favorite color scheme. Depreciation on these things sucks, but if you never get rid of it, it doesn’t matter. If I was a millionaire, I would either do a manual swap or import a manual from across the pond.

[@stewarty777]

Legendary but ..... Great review!!!!! Don't follow the crowd yet we do!

[@ironbloodedmyth1204]

Always loved the look of them ever since I saw them being displayed at town fair out here in Cali.

[@MB-zt9eo]

I just bought one. Ordered 10 months before. 👍 red etna full carbon. With my 4C are the perfect sisters and you will see like 4C price will grow up year by year as a real Petrol Head car.

[@porschenineeleven7922]

It’s over. Changed their name to Beta and joined Jaguar

[@nizdaoud]

Can’t wait to get one of these depreciated in a few years

[@Bronilli]

@@nizdaoud son they are deprecated

[@mikehertz6507]

It's been a few years. 10 actually

[@jjchockey]

@@Bronillinot all the way quite yet. They will get under 25K.

[@Bronilli]

@ I hope for your sake they will lol

[@4KITTIES-ADV]

I had one and loved it, extremely reliable except for an early bug in software that treated a 1/4 tank of fuel on a slope as empty. The dealer updated the software, and all was ok. Then I crashed it at 180km/h. I would highly recommend the 2024 model as they have ditched the e-diff (torque vectoring) for a mechanical one. The e-diff software has been responsible for a lot of crashes due to its unpredictability.

[@lordzevallos]

I need to own one of these before the user car market buyers realize they’re undervalued right now.

[@davidhunternyc1]

At 7:28, the infotainment screen is slow but I love how well integrated it is into the dash. I can't stand how Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and Mazda have cheap plastic infotainment screens plopped on top of the dash like they bought them from the toy aisle at Walmart.

[@alerobyfeb7502]

The ex CEO of Alfa Romeo, Jean-Philippe Imparato (now is the CFO of Stellantis) said that Alfa Romeo will still make gas powered cars.

[@MattBHerz7]

Had a 2020. It was sublime.... Flawed but sublime. I regret selling it. If alfa can stick around the US, I'll get another one.

[@665Thunder]

the only flaw of the 2020 model is that they made the front track geometry worse to accommodate consumers not wanting the front tires to squeak while manouvering.

[@sunnysaenngarm5375]

@@665Thunder As a 2020 owner, I can confirm lol. The 2018 I drove for some time was better in this aspect. 2020+ interior refresh with driving dynamics of the 2017-2019 would be 10/10.

[@RosserNFT]

Dope car!!!

[@665Thunder]

The Alfa Romeo Giulia is a unique product which will never exist again. The only sedan engineered in cooperation with Ferrari engineers who started from the top performance model, speccing it down to accommodate 4 cylinder engines as well. If you buy an M3, that's a tuned 320d with loads of modifications everywhere aimed at improving the start product, if you buy a giulia 2.0 super, you're buying a tuned down quadrifoglio (same high tech chassis, racing suspension scheme, perfect weight distribution, carbon drive shaft, wheels, aerodynamics, basically everything except the engine, and some extras, such as smaller brakes, lower torque ZF AT8, no diff at the back and no active splitter in the front). They focused so much on the substance, less on some key end user, non driver focused items. If the giulia had been advertised like an Audi A4, been equipped with apple carplay from launch and matrix LEDs, it would have had loads more success. Nobody ever mentioned any defects apart from these (and I second that as an owner).

[@RayoAtra]

Ive been planning on one of these when i trade / sell my SHO. Unless i go GT350. Different cars for sure. Ive always love the quad.

[@bwest6275]

Now that’s a bold color choice 👀

[@Deetroiter]

Italian motorcycles and Italian cars are pretty popular in Bay Area California for some reason, but outside of the area I never see any Italian cars, only some Italian bikes. True shame because Italian cars, especially the Alfas, are gorgeous styling and exciting as hell to drive. There’s a certain rawness to the driving experience that all the other manufacturers don’t have. The Americans, Japanese, Germans, etc…their driving feelings and feedbacks don’t come close to an Italian vehicle, like this Alfa

[@baddriversofcolga]

I'll take one in wagon form with a manual and perfect reliability.

[@covolt882]

Yall pleaseeeee take a gander at the Giulia TI awd. 4cyl turbo, rear bias awd ZF transaxle, all of the handling of the QF. I’ve daily’d mine for 2 years and constantly been blown away by it. And its all mopar stuff!

[@bobsagit10]

Drove my first QV and damn is it significantly better than an f80 m3. Haven’t driven a new g80 to compare.

[@TydiriumPilot]

The new G80 is pretty awesome. I own a Quadrifoglio and will be getting a manual G80 to accompany my car.

[@marcinrojek1436]

I don't think you drove f80. I have QV stage2 and previosly I had a m3 f80 with similar power. There is no way that a person with M3 experience could say giulia is "significantly better". They both have plusses - steering, agility, comfort (suspension is soft in N mode), torque spread and stock sound is a + for Alfa, for BMW - aggression (between 2000- 3000 it kicks you in the face) quality, ability to drift and make safe powerslides, more intelligent systems, easy tuning, wideapread knowledge about the car among specialists, audio, infotainment, different looks than cyvil version - much more muscular, turning off traction control completely. I love my giulia and it looks amazing but she has a lot of minuses. I would make a perfect car out of the two and I believe g80 is an attempt to do so, yet ugly. I drove it and it is a next level of performance vs alfa Q and f80.

[@TydiriumPilot]

@@marcinrojek1436 I drove the F80 and my Quadrifoglio feels significantly better, lol.

[@arned2493]

Hey man, I am fully enjoying my Q4 Ghibli Modena, and that is coming to an end too, so that thing about Italians do it better, yes, in many, many ways (not all) but yes, I am loving my Maserati.

Lol. That is an automatic, awd, 2 ton weighing lump. Don't mention a ghibli in the same sentence as the great Giulia Quadrifoglio.

[@ikhwankamaruddin9222]

Marketing. Beautiful car❤

[@paulmcdonald9592]

Good job. I'm thinking...

[@Hangoversteer]

Zach is very good at his job.

[@bigboymarket]

I bought a QV 2019 Trofeo White with CCM,Without Sparco seat @26k odo....I enjoy driving it every time i stepped in.....Very Fun......Only Negative is that wish inside materials was better quality.....back up Camera feeling like even worest than my 2009 lexus ISF.........

[@BitterCarGuy]

Very good video, Signore Klapman.

[@carguy7627]

That dude delivering the cheese is so nice to warn you with a nice tone 😂

[@Finnish_Skydiver]

FINALLY! I waited so long for this review. Sorry for asking you if this was similar to the Diablo. Was just too curious to hear what you think of my car

[@luobomu9747]

I think it's funny how lots of sports cars with a special race mode cluster... just transforms into looking identical to my old Honda Civic!

[@BlargMyShnoople]

I've owned two of these, I absolutely loved it as a sports car. The problem was that it falls so short on a lot of the daily driver aspects which led me back to the German's

[@e46m54nissansr20937]

Rumor has it Alfa were planning to make an AWD version as well a few years ago