The Porsche Macan T Is Greater Than the Sum of Its Parts - Two Takes

[@TheSmokingTire]

Update: I spoke to the Camao driver via IG. The driver apologized profusely. He had received some extremely bad news that morning and wasn't in the right headspace to be driving. He's also learned some bad VERY habits from other people that drive the canyons at night (I.E. crossing yellow touge style). I was empathetic (to the news he'd received) but told him to stop driving dangerously, do some track or Auto-X days, and learn responsible canyon driving so that he can enjoy this hobby for decades to come. - Zack

[@jareknowak8712]

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[@chrisej5987]

Aughta pin this ✌️

[@midnightchaser9453]

Really hate that crossing the double yellows gets dubbed "touge style" out west. Im pretty active in the Appalachian touge scene and we are VERY anal about people doing stupid stuff like this. Easiest way for people to get killed on the mountain. Just know its only that way in the west coast community

[@mitchbuchannon6637]

@@midnightchaser9453 I remember the late 80s early 90s togue scene in Japan, was mostly one way roads and there was always spotters

[@stevemartegani]

I got the impression he was a night driver, no surprise there I guess... Glad he apologized at least.

[@BelviGER]

Good call with the camaro, always better to have a crash on your front camera than the rear camera

[@2Bunphettered788]

😄👍

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

Maybe seeing what that Camaro did will drive home how comparatively responsible Matt and Zack are with their spirited drives up there lol

[@mjsmotorsport]

Exactly this, you can have a spirited drive and do it safely.

[@Zirion123]

as long as noone lives there, walks there, or takes trips, and if u follow inside ur lane i dont see an issue with driving fast

[@Dudeman9339]

TST has always emphasized responsibility on public roads. I remember Matt was in a Maserati and accidently overcooked a turn, taking him into the other lane just a smidge. Nobody else on the road saw it but Matt was so apologetic and remorseful that he was going hard enough to be near that edge of grip.

[@AFUSKH]

That Camaro driver is nuts! That sort of driving is what will lead to canyon driving to get regulated

[@_chipchip]

Sorry, not an American. Why was driving on the public road in a canyon not regulated before? Or you mean cops are bigger dicks about trying to catch people now?

[@lostinbravado]

That and 2,000 HP EVs. Everyone will get to have their own Richard Hammond moment.

[@corbinsmith50]

It's already is regulated. Hence, the lines in the road and speed limit signs. :)

[@MrGaryGG48]

​@@corbinsmith50 Corbin, you're certainly correct as far as your comment went. "Out west," on the Sonoma County coast, north of SF, one crash like we almost witnessed would bring very heavy CHP monitoring for some length of time. They have no sense of humor over that sort of behavior. A very good friend of our family is a retired CHP Officer after 30 years service. He and I have occasionally talked about incidents he's had to clean up. I've driven on a commercial license for 50+ years and we've both seen too many scenes we really would like to be able to "un-see." That oncoming driver was extremely fortunate that Matt inadvertently slowed down the Camaro just a bit.

[@stephensfriends]

Came for the Macan T, stayed for the roasting of Camaro Man

[@2Bunphettered788]

😄👍

[@apologeticcanadian542]

I just noticed you guys crossed 1mil subs. Congrats! You guys deserve it and much more.

[@rootsmanuva82]

261 hp may appear weak for a 4,100 lb SUV but we all know it’s Porsche hp. It probably makes around 290 hp and we all know the EA888 is a great motor that can make upwards of 400 hp without modifying the internals.

[@ethannicosia979]

Camaro dummy gave a wave as if y'all were letting him by for being quicker lolol If you have to cut corners, you aren't faster buddy.

[@cltnthecultist]

It may have been a wave, but something tells me it could have been a middle finger too. That guy’s head was not on right. Edit: Nope it was just a wave. Still, that guy is a genuine danger.

[@rdadams7507]

I took my car in for service and received a Macan T as loaner. I was definitely impressed with the handing and found the turbo-4 had enough power to keep me engaged. I wouldn’t mind having one of these as my daily driver.

[@Tobias-599]

I love to see the people comparing the Camaro driver to Matt’s driving. Matt never crosses the lines or puts others in danger, and he’s very considerate to other road users. The Camaro driver got really lucky there. Half a foot over and he’s hitting the oncoming car. Drive sensibly folks.

[@JacesOwnWorld]

Bro, you definitely haven’t watched many of his videos then haha

[@mmontgomeryy]

I was genuinely concerned you guys would run into that Camaro driver going the other way the whole time Zack was driving.

[@TheSmokingTire]

Me too. - Zack

[@redbaron5765]

@@TheSmokingTire I think we could tell. You had that “look”. Cool that he reached out and got some advice

[@tmolne117]

As a Porsche Factory Tech, I can tell you the 4 cylinder is far more reliable, and I have way more fun in the 4 cylinder with the sport suspension than I do in the 6 cylinder S with the base suspension. The 4 cylinder also has less turbo lag is is more economical to run/service over its life time. If you have to have the 6 cylinder, get the GTS.

[@theporschewhisperer8801]

You are not wrong. Have not touched the 4 cylinder in the workshop compared to the v6 models.

[@VerryJerry90]

Blind corners in a Camaro that has huge blind spots. The guy must be crazy

[@thecorsentino]

dude, just imagine if that guy crashed seconds into recording him. Lic place 8PMV979 for reference so you know to avoid him.

[@drunkpolack7612]

Lmao don’t dox him

[@alistairwillock7266]

@@drunkpolack7612 Actually, dox the shit out of him... before he kills somebody.

[@jose7777777777777777]

Great review! One of the few that compares the different Macan versions subjectively and not just based on numbers.

[@Dudeman9339]

Honestly the only crossover sized thing I would ever own.

[@MarioDallaRiva]

Mr Camaro most certainly poopied said trousers 😖 Not even our pal Larry would want to clean those seats…

[@adamfrost9048]

An ECU tune would make this a clear winner over a base S.

[@sltillim]

@TheSmokingTire you guys have captured some crazy moments! I am not sure if this tops the guy with a tree chained to his bumper though....

[@ayounireda7394]

Which video?

[@dbeckMSP]

@@ayounireda7394 I think a VF hurucan or gallardo. Back in the one take days. GREAT scene

[@dukedub]

Lol the person just dragging a log behind their truck I remember that

[@nathanchildress5596]

Yes, that was unforgettable! You saw this random snake of dirt along the road, then coming around a corner, full ABS stop, and “This is a man DRAGGING A LOG!”

[@d3m3tr3s]

I clicked on this video because of the title and I spend the first 1 minute and a half, listening about a toll app. Great intro!

[@artagain8977]

It’s only a matter of time where someone excessively speeding (driving 55 around a 20mph corner) kills somebody and then it’s over. Speed limits will be dropped substantially and heavy police presence will ruin it for everyone else.

[@jmizzonini]

For real, good thing Farah never exceeds the posted limits making content for this channel

[@alistairwillock7266]

@@jmizzonini Here's the thing: Farah is safer at those speeds than a lot of people are at the posted limits _because he's a better driver._ (Also, he's mostly driving more capable than average cars). Driver skill and vehicle capability make speed dangers much more relative than most people realize. I'm not completely discounting physics, but Farah is _far_ less likely to have an accident than the majority of people driving the canyons will - even though they're going a lot slower.

[@longpeng6072]

The 2022 Macan S has PASM as standard. The Macan T doesn't come with air suspension or PTV+ as standard like the one that was reviewed. So the comparison between the two is really just the special trim, sports chrono, unique tuning.

[@GA-wq8xq]

PASM is not standard on the S as of 28 June 2022 looking on the configurator.

[@JM-zs5hp]

I think this would be a great time for you guys to put out an informational video on how to drive the canyons responsibly. Having lived in CO and UT, I can say that cutting lanes is the norm in Utah. Colorado drivers are mostly respectful and stay in their lane. I live 200 yards from the mouth of a canyon in Utah and we have close calls with people cutting their lane on a daily basis. Usually in pickups or "muscle cars".

[@chriscarbaugh3936]

Sounds like a compelling second hand option! I started out with a Macan S, which was loaded for my first Macan. It was a second hand car supplied by the OPC. It was excellent, then moved to a Turbo, also loaded. I still have the Turbo and it has been great; a lot of power put down well. As wife wife drives the Macan I am thinking a T would be an excellent replacement!

[@sunnohh]

This makes me even more excited my base macan gets built Friday

[@MaxiimTribe]

So throw on an hpfp, a EQT vortex turbo and some tuning and you can have a 400whp macan on 91....cool

[@Sairos-Plays]

That Camaro driver is the definition of buying a car can't buy you driving skills. That was an insanely close call!

[@TheV8Pumpkin]

I was skeptical cause of the crappy throw away 4cyl turbo BUT you have the higher trim design, with the GTS's handling, and the unique "T" badge being new will definitely raise eyebrows:) I think for 60k new this is a really good car! When I'm a dad of 3 id love a great handling suv and big power wouldn't be important to me, also cant think of a more perfect car for a non enthusiast wife!

[@GolfCoyote]

That EA888 engine is fantastic for a 4 banger

[@ronaldov09]

Crappy 4cyl? The EA888 can easily get to 500hp with a few bolt ons.

[@papayaman123]

wtf non enthusiast wife? this would be more suitable for enthusiasts....also that comment is very insecurity based.

[@_chipchip]

@@ronaldov09 Let’s be real. 500hp in a 2ltr isn’t going to last well, especially in something that weighs close to 2 ton. The point is, do you want a golf motor in a Porsche. I don’t, but I’m sure plenty of people will be happy enough with this and the stock power levels, which for most driving types would be fine. I’ll pass though.

[@0Turbox]

@@_chipchip I think the same, when a Porsche, than with a Porsche engine, but at the end of the day, more options is always better.

[@taylor315]

I’ve got the 18-way seats in my Turbo and they are outstanding. So much adjustability and bolstering exactly where you want it. Probably the best seats I’ve ever sat in. Definitely spend the extra $ on the 18-way seats

[@mwelche]

Completely agree. I have a ‘15 turbo with 18 way seats and it’s way more comfortable than my parents’ ‘16 S with standard 14-way seats, particularly on long drives.

[@Samson44444]

@@mwelche the standard seats make my back and shoulders cramp on anything that resembles a long drive

[@biditnow8869]

When I was selling Porsche, I had numerous customers tell me the 18 ways were reasons alone to get Macan or Cayenne. Cayenne seats are a little roomier than Macan. There are unfortunately too many people who are wide enough that need 14 way.

[@Samson44444]

@@biditnow8869 I think most people need more than the base 8 ways. They’re horrible to me and I’m not the widest person in the world

[@baddriversofcolga]

48-way seats or bust.

[@albundy5992]

I have an S from late 2015. Got most of the good options on 19s. Such an awesome drive. Classic Porsche values distilled in this product.

[@PaulNickleson]

Macan's are underrated!! I love driving them; base to turbo. The Macan is a great car that envelopes practicality with Porsche's sporty heritage in mind!

[@Joe0079]

5:32 Whoever you are, you need help.

[@brauhaus213]

Love that you guys reviewed the Macan T.

[@stewarty777]

That EA888 is a beast 4 banger!

[@mephisto1025]

I can tell when a Man is living his best life . Kudos live on … enjoy the ride. Great review by the way .

[@MrTrollin86]

Love a Macan - however at $63k I'm taking a well equipped SQ5 or a base Macan S. I'm a bit disappointed Porsche hasn't upped the HP figure to at least match the new Golf R at 315hp. It's the same motor and easily capable of handling it.

[@ryanmolloy5421]

Kinda strange that they didn't, but hey at least you can slap a tune on it and call it a day.

[@flacjacket]

It's the same architecture but I believe these us the GTI variant (different head and pistons and turbo). That said these engines can still handle 420 ft-lbs to the wheels which means you can safely pull over 500 whp with a turbo upgrade and bolt ons.

[@ryanmolloy5421]

@@flacjacket that would be amazing

[@usaclaimsthemoon4198]

As much as the SQ5 seems identical to the macan on paper, driving both of them back to back, they don’t feel like they have anything in common

[@MrTrollin86]

@@usaclaimsthemoon4198 I've lived with an SQ5 long term. I've driven a Macan GTS & an S - no experience with the base model/4 cylinder. Dynamically, the Macan is certainly superior to the SQ5 and more driver focused. But at $63K++ I'm not looking for a momentum SUV. I'm sure the T is a fantastic SUV.

[@Aaron-jp5nz]

I love when Matt runs into bad drivers

[@singletracksender9021]

Such a sharp car, I use to hate it when they first released, now I really want one.

[@stevemartegani]

Watching this I want to upgrade our base Macan to a T! Problem is local dealer wants like 10% markups now for custom orders and we bought our base June 2020 for 8% off...

[@MayaLXiX]

The place you pulled over on to let the Camaro pass , with the yellow barriers is called the PIT by the locals, if you look down you'll see a few cars down there. Common spot for vehicles to fly off and sometimes they can't be retrieved and thus becomes a graveyard

[@clydefrog4959]

Guy in the camaro is the type that you have to see what they look like so you can see if they look as dumb as they drive.

[@drunkpolack7612]

Only two options, stupid high schooler or an old guy that did too much cocaine in the 80s

[@luizcarlos6356]

The best and funniest review I've ever seen 😂 Thank you so much

[@dbowen22]

Zack finally looks like he's old enough to buy a beer.

[@tricd0444]

Zack looks like every single college aged drug dealer in the midwest.

[@Collyne07]

Like the look Zach and Matt you're lookin fresh as well.

[@matteugenio]

I’d get the T in a heartbeat! Also, I hope that Camaro watches this video and knows that he’s a terrible and dangerous driver. Great review Matt & Zack!

[@fortyozsteak]

Get the S

[@jayp398]

Didn't you listen to them? Why, to go 0-60 a few seconds quicker in a straight line on an empty highway?

[@Tential1]

5:30 wow... I screamed.... I can't believe you guys didn't freak out. Jesus....

[@Superbustr]

What happened to all the physical buttons in the Macan? It looks weird now with the glass plate touch buttons.

[@lappu911]

It’s looks better at dealership when you buy it and that’s all that matters.

[@Superbustr]

​@@lappu911 It may look better but in reality that new touchless interface is going to be a high cost item to fix or maintain when it breaks when compared to a few plastic buttons. -Better hope you pay extra for the warranty.

[@richardwalther6229]

Been with TST since 2010. Remember GTI vs. Mazdaspeed 3 autocross? Congratulations on 1M subs, Matt.

[@cbatiau2528]

13:22: do you mean acceleration? Because speed is the same between the 4-cylinder and the V6 in the Macan (speed = how fast you can go, and stability at high speed)... Acceleration is a bit different, not speed. I chose a base Macan over the V6, because -- as you say here -- the V6 engines in Macans are not that much better, seriously, and I thought not worth the price. For me, the acceleration of the base Macan is plenty good for passing, getting on expressways, etc., and it may even be better at high speed because of its light weight. I've never regretted not getting the V6 Macan, and I've owned cars with much bigger engines and much higher hp/torque ... (Glad to see you agree at 16:45)

[@effa114]

A compelling package. I’d be interested to know how it stacks up to the 4 cyl Stelvio TI. And I’m sure a tune would open up the old EA888 considerably to get it up to Golf R power.

[@your_royal_highness]

Stelvio was a hoot to drive and not a car I would want as my daily driver. Reliability is a joke

[@joebuckmaster1908]

I own a Macan S. And have driven the 4 cylinder. The engine in the S is a beautiful engine, and magical compared to the 4 cylinder. The 4 cylinder seems labored and to be honest, a little disappointing. For buyers new to porsche, I would opt for the S, or pick another manufacturer. The 4 cylinder is just too pedestrian.

[@MrSlowestD16]

I think I'd go with the S. The T is probably the 'better' choice, the reasoning you guys gave was sound, but I just can't stomach spending 65k and only getting a 4 banger. Better solution: Just spring for the GTS, haha.

[@PaulNickleson]

I fully agree here, Macan GTS is the way to go! Once you drive the Macan T I think you'll be impressed for what it has to offer in the 2023 model year price range. Nothing looks or sounds as good as the Macan GTS' as far as Macan's go imo. They're absolutely amazing as GTS specs. Curious to see how wild the "T" versions will get when orders get fulfilled!

[@MrSlowestD16]

@@PaulNickleson My problem with 4 bangers is that even while they are often good enough, and sometimes even produce great peak power numbers, you usually feel it in some shape or form. Either dogging down low or the turbo checking out at 4500 - stuff like that. I'm sure it's impressive in its own right, but that's just something that would get under my skin. I'd rather have less power and have it all over the place.

[@kassylee813]

That’s a relief, I’ve had mine for 2 weeks then saw this video and was like oh no are they going to tell me I made a mistake

[@daviddrivez9978]

5:20 is where the action happens

[@poplarkid4149]

thnx bro

[@ishmaelmohammad4306]

you're the GOAT

[@leonardoluc6362]

Nice review thanks, i prefer the diesel S insane torque its addictive

[@aspiratedaloha2946]

The two takes are king

[@torch06si]

Seems to offer a really strong argument for a Golf R? The more pedestrian Volkswagen is better in every measurable metric (aside from ground clearance - which means the VDub has better center of gravity) ~ 50 more horsepower, ~ 600 fewer pounds, and the option for 3 pedals seems much more attractive. And it’s 10k less if your ego and need for status can look past the the badge on the bonnet…

[@adamfrost9048]

If you can find a pristine MK7 for sale anywhere, the MK8 is ruined.

[@Topofthelinetommy]

I have a 21' Macan GTS very happy with it.

[@JMartinni]

12:40 The 718 base engine definitely makes more power than this, but slightly less torque. With the car being way lighter idk how you can feel like this is more powerful.

[@curtislovrak5390]

I would love to see a flat 4 in this.

[@SwapBlogRU]

The Camaro moment is right up there with the guy dragging a log in that old Lamborghini Huracan video. Especially with the foreshadowing almost instantly coming true.

[@skippynj1979]

I just picked up a CPO 23 T... Fully loaded, just no ptv and air suspension... This will be a daily and commuter.. so the luxury options are more important than the motor right now..

[@AlexHartford]

I’ve had a good amount of seat time in a base Macan and while it felt lackluster on the Highway, it was great in the canyons. The 30-60mph punch is a lot stronger than the 60-90mph.

[@Edgar_Allan_Poe_50]

That 30-60 punch is what you'll use 30-60 times everyday.

[@AlexHartford]

@@Edgar_Allan_Poe_50 Yep, I think it’s a great overall package. Maybe a tune would make it feel more confident on the freeway.

[@Edgar_Allan_Poe_50]

@@AlexHartfordI'm a huge fan of the APR stage 2 tune. I don't think it's available anymore sadly. The only negative is having to go back to factory every 2 years for smog.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

Ah yes the Camaro on camera! I’ve been waiting for this

[@isimonsez]

11:24 crossovers litter the road but I will admit the Macan is the only crossover id consider. I prefer full size SUV like our Rover or wagons like our RS6 Avant

[@louisebiber]

Just bumped into your channel👌🤩. However, I disagree with your verdict on the Macan T vs. the S model: you forgot to mention the SIX cylinders in the S.

[@gregorytrane7828]

Good judgement call on that Camaro. He could have been drunk or on drugs or both. It would make me sick to spend Porsche money and have a nit wit like that crash into me, provided that I survived the crash. That Porsche looked and sounded good even with the 4 cylinder engine. I think the lighter weight of the 4 cylinder makes a positive difference in handling. The t option is wise if you can save 15% rather than ordering options separately. Good review as always.

[@blueryxfalls7949]

I wouldn't get the S because the GTS is the way to go. But ultimately, Macan T would be my daily driver for the reasons you shared.

[@velvetjones1856]

If o-60 in 6 Sec is fast enough, then theses the car for you. All models of the new Macan have the performance level of the previous model's next higher model (GTS is like old Turbo with performance pack). I had a Turbo and it was best SUV ever. It handled like a sports car. I'd expect the T do do as well or better.

[@chrisferrara3061]

After owning a base S and living with a base 4banger loaner for a month, I could not WAIT to get back in the S. I started to thing the Macan was no fun and wondered why I had purchased one in the first place. The 3.0L just has more usable power down low and so much more response. Granted, the 4pot was more powerful than I expected, the 6pot is just more enjoyable day to day. It’s smoother, sounds WAY better and the power matches the chassis better. The 4pot just didn’t feel special to me. (All said, I have. 997.2 c2s in the garage, so the thrill meter gets exercised.) Final thoughts, a great chassis never makes up for a bland engine for a daily driver. However, A bland engine at high revs in the twisties CAN be fun paired with a great chassis. Example; 944/Miata. Do I want to daily either of those. Nah!

[@devinbaker8707]

"It sounds pretty good!" No it doesn't Matt, come on! Proud owner of a MK7 GTI, and the *only* thing I'd change about that car is how it sounds.

[@TheSmokingTire]

the porsche sounds better than the Volkswagen

[@oc0dyc]

Good to know! I had this in my previous A3 and was NOT a fan of the exhaust note

[@fullsendsimracing]

This thing with a forged engine, a big turbo and tune would be the rally car of the decade

[@gf66620]

That's what I was thinking. EA888 engines can be built to 600whp. Would be awesome to see something like it

[@fullsendsimracing]

@@gf66620 Especially with the PDK, it's going to launch like mad and it would be completely reliable

[@gf66620]

@@fullsendsimracing Just throw some dodson clutch pack and be happy hahahahaha

[@MrNemo721]

Haven't driven the base Macan, but the new Q5 with pretty much the same engine. If I'm going for the 4 cyl I rather do that with tech/comfort options instead of the T package at the same price

[@blueryxfalls7949]

the macan build quality is way better and so resale value

[@stevemartegani]

The Q5 doesn't drive nearly as well as the Macan even with the same engine. Drove them back to back, even the SQ5.

[@biznatcho7]

@@stevemartegani interesting. I found the previous SQ5 to be better than the previous Macan S. Felt quicker off the line and interior was a lot nicer. Macau’s PDK felt clunky around town. More cargo space in the Audi as well.

[@stevemartegani]

@@biznatcho7 Did you drive them on twisty back roads?

[@cpowerca]

@@biznatcho7 PDK is more responsive but not as smooth..

[@bcoin6456]

You could always tune it pretty easy to get an e888 over 400hp 👀

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Yes it's a real Porsche... I'm looking forward to the Macan EV ⚡🤘

[@LaudaMaestro]

Too many self proclaimed enthusiastic drivers feel more comfortable than they should behind the wheel. It’s tons of solid metal rolling forward very quickly on a set of rubber disks with a relatively small and fragile contact patch. The fun turns into tears in the blink of an eye.

[@ferdinandbardamu3945]

The Macan T is doing the sports car thing of making you pay more for less. But the Macan isn't a sports car. Just get the S for the relaxed engine and the tuning potential and the smoothness.

[@effie4903]

Can make out the camaro's license plate as it almost caused an accident. Would be a shame if this video found it's way to law enforcement.

[@gobinduppal4429]

Good point!! Maybe they should not have filmed it

[@TML34]

You’re being sarcastic, right? 😀

[@ShodakonFury]

I don’t get how people are comparing driving when there is no comparison at all. That Camaro driver was an idiot hands down and I feel he was trying to show off. Nonetheless, that Macan is beautiful and it’s amazing to see what an SUV like that can get away with performance-wise. Porsche never disappoints

[@rootsmanuva82]

Cool fact: The EA888 engine with its 88mm bore spacing and iron block is an evolution of the EA111 developed in 1974 for the Audi 50.

[@Meatwad650]

I wonder why they didn’t pull the engine from the Boxster?

[@jpayan1694]

Skip to 5:20 for the Camaro

[@Al-vl3tp]

Shout Out to the Smoking tire who always has the best Sponsors! I'm downloading UpRoad now! Thanks Matt and Zack #2Takes #TheSmokingTire

[@pbmcgme176]

I remember test driving a Macan S in the first year of production and was greatly disappointed in its handling capability after reading all of the amazing reviews.....little did i know you needed all the right suspension options tacked on($$$) to get to what the reviews were all about. This Macan T is pretty much what I'd get as a daily driver. If you don't have those options there is nothing special about the Macan IMO.

[@0Turbox]

I could live with the look alone.

[@2Bunphettered788]

Typical of Porsche to make buyers pay extra for the fun experience. 🙄

[@dmack346]

Nice video. Thanks for sharing.

[@Royahmar]

Matt: This video is brought to you by UpRoad. Me: What's uproad? Matt: Not much what's up with you.

[@DouEditz]

That Camaro is MARYLAND

[@jonathanl2748]

I don’t get why people tend to refer to the Macan as a soccer mom’s SUV. I think it’s a great compromise if you can’t have a Cayman or Boxster.

[@camryt]

For that kind of money, it could at least have the same power output as the Golf R or S3.

[@senorfreeze4662]

Kinda with you on that. Still not sure why the T doesn’t have the full 315hp from the EA888 in the Golf R. Maybe parts availability? If this had that Golf R performance numbers I’d be much more tempted.

[@ANDRE_675]

@@senorfreeze4662 It doesn’t have the full power because then it would be much closer to the S, also it’s cheaper for Porsche to keep the same engine from the Macan without touching it. And I can bet you that if you put this thing on a dyno it has atleast 20hp more than advertised, just like most Porsche’s.

[@sheenster95]

A lot of that money is R&D. You can't get a better crossover in that price range.

[@nathanchildress5596]

If you left your lane, you didn’t win. It’s like track limits, you’re DQ’d if you cross the line. Btw that cross-canyon shot was pretty sweet

[@jzb8380]

Maybe the Camaro could meet up with the ‘guy pulling a log’ from the VF Huracan video…

[@jaioncebollero1168]

Only question that matters in my book... would either of you two spend 60k on a 4 cylinder suv? Good or not.

[@lotsofcurveslover]

Hell no.

[@Justin_GFM]

Fuck that, it's gotta be a turbocharged V6 or V8 at the least

[@Areku06]

Might as well get x3 m40i. Much better engine and sounds awesome and more tech. Handling is good too.

[@lotsofcurveslover]

All of the

[@dan.r9220]

That's a terrible question because they have no need for it. They would never be in a position to need this. There are millions of people who want an SUV crossover who give very little shits about engines.

[@cadriver2570]

I bought an S model and I've got buyer's remorse. Without raging acceleration on par with the the M40i a crossover like this is pretty boring, even with good handling. The car isn't really whisper quiet at speed, but you still can't hear the engine note in sport mode like in the BMWs. At low speed it's all turbo whistle/hiss, which again BMW controls a lot better so you can hear that glorious inline 6. Not to mention the brake squeal.

[@rspence3463]

Upgraded suspension, and an easily tunable engine? I like it.

[@RockRocky09]

great video. but whats with the sunglasses for the entire drive including closing thoughts? little weird

[@michaelvanderzand]

I would love to see a Spyder T. Would really make the 718 badge make sense.

[@darkwingduck9526]

Macan Turbo and S models are nice lil suv....until it's time to replace the belt, that price will be a huge sock to most, and make sure you do your PDK clutch fluid flush every 4 yrs or 40K (which ever comes first).

[@RyanHarris77]

If you look at the badge you will, in fact, see that it is a real Porsche.

[@oc0dyc]

That shares a chassis with my Audi 😬

[@RyanHarris77]

@@oc0dyc but is it a real Audi?

[@oc0dyc]

I mean it’s an SQ5 so… maybe? 😂

[@shawnseeley9561]

63k and you don't even get the EA888 from the S3/Golf R? At that price I would be looking at the BMW X3 M40i or Audi SQ5 and add the available handling options on either one.

[@drunkpolack7612]

So it has a 30 thousand dollar car engine?! 🥴

[@wil_leighton1618]

question is, do you go with the latest macan t, or get a certified pre-owned older Macan GTS

[@stevemartegani]

Used prices are near new Macan prices now due to the crazy market...

[@BurnsRubber]

Buyer beware: the previous gen V6 Macan engine is unreliable, leaks oil, suffers from turbo lag, and is generally mehh. The current gen V6 GTS cars are selling at $90k used. I just bought a 2018 Sport Edition, essentially a Macan T from 2018. For doing SUV stuff and canyon driving it has plenty of power and responsiveness. If you want/need more power and torque, tunes will elevate the performance nearly to the Macan S level. Upgrade the turbo and you can match the GTS and Turbo and with less weight. However, I don’t think that much power is necessary. Macan is great because of the PDK, excellent ride quality, while being fun to drive and quick through corners. All of those things don’t require more HP.

[@richardomontobahn4327]

Hear me out. Again. You two and Matt Watson……….best show ever. And papa Chris Harris can visit.

[@lanced.274]

Zac k looks like he's going to make a sweet cutting board then make some craft coffee.