How Much 'Mustang' Is the Electric Mach-E, When You Have the New Mach-1 Too? - Two Takes

[@jrbaumbach]

when you own the brand name "Thunderbird" and don't use it for your new electric vehicle...

[@Wirenfeldt1990]

Fusion and Lightning

[@INTOTH3LIGHT]

Thunderbolt

[@slunasaurusrex]

Why would Thunderbird be a good name for an EV? What does thunder have to do with electricity? Or do you mean they just have a heritage name they could have used.

[@stevenwilliams1805]

@@slunasaurusrex no thunder without lightning.

[@gummostump4217]

I bet two things scared them away from the Thunderbird nameplate: The last Thunderbird was quite a failure, and they're worried that using a name from native american mythology might not go over well with the car's more progressive target audience.

[@idkilketurbos]

The name "Ford Mach E" would've been absolutely perfect! Throwing "Mustang" in there was absolutely stupid.

[@Berichar88]

Rebrand it the Mach E, lose the pony badges (but keep the taillights!). That makes room for a true electric mustang coupe.

[@RichardJoashTan]

But I will buy a fully loaded Mustang Mach-E anyway.

[@watnw2411]

Or just axe the glorified blender powered crossover and only build the v8

[@RichardJoashTan]

@@watnw2411 or I will buy a fully loaded Mustang Mach-E and make the v8 Mustang obsolete for destruction.

[@Citizen_Snips1]

@@RichardJoashTan Your Mach-E is not and will never be a 1st Gen Mustang, and will likely be forgotten to time.

[@RichardJoashTan]

@@Citizen_Snips1 but it always will be MY new gen Mustang and it will never be forgotten in MY time and ALL OF THE SPACE TIME CONTINUUM!

[@5scbasher17]

This one of those times im glad I didn't skip the sponsor. Going to get a few of those spheres.

[@ayitsyaboi]

Honestly I found the globe more interesting than the car lmao.

[@time_on_target]

Same...TST isn't what it used to be

[@vladimpaler9274]

That MOVA Globe is cooler than any FORD

[@christop672]

@@vladimpaler9274 The bigger globe is also almost as expensive as a brand new 60 something Mustang was back in the day.

[@maniac6666]

Facts

[@hotrod7603]

@@vladimpaler9274 maybe it is cooler than any Toyota or A vw hope you got it

[@jackmitchell6628]

Galloping noises for every EV accelerator pedal

[@artimusbill]

They called it Mustang because they were not confident it would sell on it's own.

[@BrendanEvan]

This is the comparison I’ve been waiting for

[@leeconstant7261]

@14:20 it was nice to hear that metallic thunder of a v8 after listening to them talk about the mustang and over all car world changing. It kind of snapped me out of it realizing we are still in the good ol days of muscle cars. But not for long..

[@webfreakz]

I might actually get one of those globes!

[@johnroberts2905]

It's a travesty to put the Mustang badge on an SUV.

[@watnw2411]

An suv powered by a blender

[@JDsHouseofHobbies]

I see them on occasion and I say, "There's a Mach E." Now, I'm off to order one of those epic globes.

[@slickman5969]

$$$$$$

[@BYSMA4th]

My .02: they should have made an electric Mustang and called it Mustang Mach-E. And then alongside release this car as the Mach-C. I think the idea of an electric Mustang works, in previous models they were nose heavy cars made primarily for drag racing. These could have been the exact traits of an electric Mustang. The horse badging isn't necessarily bad imo (Ferrari uses them just fine), the problem is how prominently Ford chose to display the horse.

[@fifthcircle1]

Matt just became my favorite person on the planet. I'm completely in agreement with the horse on the mach-e. I just hope Ford is only using the name temporarily for added press.

[@mikekeller5202]

Matt’s great but I feel he loss some coolness by leasing a Mach e when he has so many amazing cars.

[@RumblestripDotNet]

Ford is missing a revenue stream here, where is the $1,000 horse delete package.

[@llaughridge]

I would pay extra to have no horses, no ‘ground speed’ in the speedometer, and rename ‘unbridled’ mode.

[@laronda10]

Lmao what a move that would be

[@Tential1]

2009, 9% of cars sold were the Shelby, another 25% was the V8 and then the rest were the V6. You're just extremely out of touch with what a Mustang actually you normally goes out the door.

[@CPMUNSEY]

I feel the exact same way about it. I also will never call them a Mustang,lol!!

[@benjiesau1497]

Side note: Consumers still want physical buttons! It should be absolutely the standard for a driver to expect separate physical controls that they can learn to locate and manipulate while keeping eyes on the road for all the most important stuff. I feel like we have all been saying this for 20 years now since IDrive first appeared, yet every new car I drive has less and less buttons that I can feel, and forces me to look down and to the right more and more often.

[@user-qc7dr3cd3q]

The slant six came from Dodge, in the Dart for example.

[@declanwhite]

yep. the stang 6 wasnt slant

[@55YAMAHARACER55]

The 170 cubic in and 200 cubic in motors were in the 64 1/2 to 66....

[@killakobra]

@@55YAMAHARACER55 that is a straight six, no slant.

[@dmandman9]

That one comment almost made me turn it off. It’s a travesty to make that mistake.

[@johnnyr25]

"The Mustang Mach-E is built on the Global Electrified 1 (GE1) platform which is a heavily reworked version of the C2 platform that is used on the fourth generation Focus and third generation Kuga/fourth generation Escape." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_Mach-E?wprov=sfla1 There would be nothing wrong with calling this an Escape Mach-E...because that's what it is.

[@Gamecrazy117]

I’m a huge Mustang fan but damn that globe was awesome

[@Japplesnap]

You can tell A LOT about an engine with nothing but a vacuum gauge. And it's also is a great place to swap in a boost/vacuum gauge when you turbo or supercharge the engine.

[@EricJh21690]

True but if ppl at least had an option I'm sure many would prefer something else like an AFR gauge so they're easily able to keep an eye on their fuel ratios....at least for ppl keeping things pretty similar to factory/not planning on boost in the future lol

[@Japplesnap]

@@EricJh21690 That would be a great idea for a gauge too, but I think most people probably would understand an A/F gauge. Then again, I guess the same could be said of a vacuum gauge too.

[@8draco8]

If it can plow into a crowd then it is a real Mustang.

[@NatedoGP]

Bruuuuuuh lmao 🤣

[@gabrielash9433]

No matter how good the mach-e might be I just can’t reward that kind of marketing bs with my money

[@Hardcaslte]

You should drive one. I'm a Mustang person myself, I was hating on the Mustang name, then I rented one on Turo to see if I really wanted to order one after seeing the positive reviews. I'm glad it has the Mustang name because they could use the styling of a Mustang which is the exact reason why people stop and talk to you about the Mach E, it's why people stare at you while you drive by, it's a damn nice looking vehicle and it wouldn't look this nice without the Mustang bits on it. It might not be a car with a V8, but it feels like a sports car and when the GT comes out and does 0-60 as quick as a GT500 and has full magneride suspension, I don't think you'll be able to say it's not a sports car anymore. As much as I LOVE a loud V8, the instant torque of electric motors is just as addictive.

[@gustavofigueiredo1798]

That's exactly how I feel too.

[@HandsomeAlex25]

"Do these two cars share anything at all in common besides the first parts of their names?" Whiiiisshhh BWOOOAAAAAAAAAA I think the first drive by pretty much answers that question.

[@CarYenta-1]

Thank you Matt for being honest on what is reality even when you own it!

[@robosullivan704]

This just proves that people can whatever they want, don't relent and eventually people will just accept it

[@slunasaurusrex]

Adding onto Matt’s Porsche analogy with the 911 and Mecan about an “ethos that runs through them both” I would argue Ford tried to do the same thing from a visual and handling perspective. The problem? Ford had the gall to call their Mecan a 911. Porsche didn’t do that - and so the 911 name remains untarnished.

[@ricardolopez8520]

Great video Matt and Zach. This is the best back and forth conversation you guys have had on a joint one take. Thank you for the great content.

[@colecampagna6302]

They finally fixed that bridge at 1:38 wow

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Dear Ford CEO/corporate: Your marketing crap doesn't fool me.

[@moddedgt3506]

Sick video! I own a GT350, it is running 753 Whp . It is equipped with a vortech supercharger, and many other mods. (I’m not trying to brag btw, I’m trying to spark a car enthusiast conversation. I say this because I previously had a “problem”.)

[@johnsullivan937]

I think it's such a shame they stopped making the 350 and replaced it with the mach 1. The engine in the 350 was lightyears better. Crazy to me they put all the money into designing that angelic engine, yet they only offer it for a handful of years in one low production car model. Imagine if they made like a mid engine c8 competitor with it. Or if they made a special edition explorer or f150 with it similar to the trackhawk. You got a helluva car man, I'd hang onto it. I Could see them becoming highly sought after in the future.

[@abivaanenopi]

Okay mustang mustang, but that globe man. It is like an 8 ball from way back. Got to get that!

[@mbclk65amg]

I'm such a big fan of the two person review format for stuff like this. Great video guys!

[@Dr650rob]

They should've called it the edge Mach 1

[@BrendanEvan]

Shelby GT500 Expedition

[@Trendyflute]

Appreciate the comparison between these two cars, and the globes are super cool! "I refuse to call it a Mustang and I think the worst part of this vehicle is the fact that is has horses on it" hard facts. Really good car, marketing insulting our intelligence once again tho

[@clydefrog4959]

Man I'm so glad this channel exists. Matt if you ever need a welder or someone to just come scrub the toilets I'd quit my job today to come work for you.

[@supraphonic88]

You're spot on on the Mach-E. Ford knew if they were going to launch a *real* EV it had to be a moonshot and they had to strap it to their strongest brand to convey how serious they were, and I think for the general public the gamble paid off, and for enthusiasts they still know it's not a *real* Mustang but the real one still exists and that's okay.

[@jondobbs]

Nice MUSTANG- I live in the uk so need to shout

[@MrRaitzi]

They should do a package deal on these 😊👍

[@BrendanEvan]

The could call it “The Stable”. $100k all in

[@aevans1979]

Do you consider the V6/Ecoboost Cars Mustangs too?

[@lakah]

Yeah and what about the fox bodies? They look nothing like Mustangs. No one complaining now. Auto lines evolve.

[@krackalgleason4746]

The biggest similarity is the design team (from what I hear).

[@Zanpaa]

The vacuum gauge is to cars what the foudroyante is to watches! Fun comparison Matt.

[@f1jones544]

This thing just dilutes and debases the only brand name worth a damn that Ford has. Genius.

[@RumbleKar]

Scrolled down to the comments and I was happy to see everyone found the globe as cool as I did

[@cayennepeppa707]

This is a really, really good and necessary discussion. I've been trying to figure out what the connection is between the E vs the ICE and there really isn't one. At least there were connections from 1st gen Mustang all the way through 7- the ICE. Now, granted, I don't necessarily mind an Electrified version of the Mustang in the future,- maybe a hybrid- but I think Ford would do better to keep some sort of version of an ICE along with the electrification element that meets whatever government standard that needs to be met. Also, a Mustang has always meant that a middle-class guy or girl can buy theirs and build it up. The E-version takes this away. All of it. While I understand progress, I don't understand who is defining that the progress HAS to be in this direction. Who said that we had to do it this way? What about hydrogen? Flux capacitor, anyone? An all-in strategy would unleash the American mindset on the world. This feels forced. Thanks, guys.

[@joshua7586]

Seems like the mach e was designed by people who haven't driven a mustang

[@wesleywalls7582]

Interesting that Matt Farah (and spouse) didn’t wait to lease the Mach-E GT, which would have been a more favorable comparison. Either way, I wish they’d talked more about how the Mach-E performed and handled in comparison to its actually peer competitors (and not the Mach 1).

[@Wirenfeldt1990]

They wanted to.. but they needed a practical car quickly and settled for this..

[@MrLifeissomething]

Sold on the globe. Rarely do I even watch the in video ads but this one got me.

[@drewwrobel564]

Sweet a video about a Mach 1 and the new electric Gallaxy 500

[@sanscipher]

Unfortunately, you are 100% correct about how this was conceived. My biggest gripe with FoMoCo is Marketing. Too much on the one side, like here, trying to Mustangize a pretty decent EV instead of making the EV that a Mustang would be and making this the E-Xplorer or something, but they do the opposite, too. Ford competes in WRC, and has done so for ages. There is not a single car that has a rally-specific nameplate on it. Yes, there has been the Focus RS, but that hasn't been in WRC or any other rally event for at least a decade. There's the Fiesta that has WRC and WRX credentials, and no special model beyond that decent but tame ST makes it to production. No, these WRC-tribute models won't make you money, but neither does sponsoring the Champions League, or participating in the WRC in the first place. Make this a theme, take some cues to low volume production runs, and it will make people want Fords even more. Hell, freaking Toyota beat you to it with the Yaris WRC, kick ass car that they lose money on with every single one built. You know how it's done, too, but you're to scared to make it. We don't win when we're scared. FoMoCo has done the same with the European Puma, btw, it has turned the Puma, a cool little, affordable coupe from the 90s based on the Fiesta, and turned it into a SUV as well. It sells, good car, but - people HATE, HATE, HATE the nameplate. After the Mustang Mach-E naming debacle, this wasn't at all foreseeable... :/

[@tpop3723]

Now if those globes could only tell time…

[@TrackDayVideo]

That silver is very good

[@paultucker1272]

Thank you......all your thoughts are EXACTLY the same as mine. A good EV, but not a Mustang. The sad thing is, I don't think this will be a one-off. I fear there may be other vehicles that become branded as Mustangs that also have nothing in common with the real one. Ford will continue this cynical marketing and that saddens me because I am a Ford fan and a Mustang lover. The irony is that the Mach E actually dilutes the Mustang brand.....it makes it less cool, less desirable. And that's a dangerous direction to go in.

[@hawwk11]

Thank you Matt Ferah! I’ve been saying since this thing was released that “The Mach-E IS NOT A MUSTANG” smh 🤣👍🏾

[@Redrash12]

Well no shit, what real car guy could not see through that dogshit marketing

[@JonathanEzor]

Look at it this way, though: if Ford *hadn't* made the marketing-driven decision to use the Mustang branding for its EV, it almost certainly wouldn't have gone for any sporty tuning either. The marketing choice forced Ford to do at least *something* to improve the driving experience that it likely wouldn't have done had it gone with any non-Mustang branding. So those of us who otherwise like what the Mach-E offers compared to its rivals benefit from the marketing choice by getting a Ford EV crossover that's more fun to drive than it otherwise would have been. As for Mustang-ness, I have driven the rental-spec gasoline Mustang a few times, and have test driven the Mach-E. Of the two, I think the Mach-E had the sportier feel, so there's that. Still, thanks for putting your money where your opinion was, Matt, and for giving us an informed owner's (well, lessee's) perspective on the Mach-E and its Mustang-ness.

[@xzibito187]

Mustang Mach E reminds me of the Mustang 2 from the eighties

[@-ellimist-]

Guess Zack wrote the description since it says "The Mustang Mach-E..." and Matt said he'd never call it a Mustang ;-)

[@christopherballenger-brook4027]

I work alot. Like alot alot. But some weekends are mine. And I love love love watching this duo rip on cars 🤣😂🤣

[@AwkwardYet]

I’m actually gonna get one of those globes 🤣

[@TheBucketOfTruth]

Comfort/Eco should be "Saddled," then "Bareback" for Sport, then finally they can use "Unbridled" for Race Mode or whatever.

[@billcaddy359]

I don’t need to watch this video to know the mach-e isn’t a real mustang

[@evalonious]

I thought your comparison between the 911 and the Macan was brilliant with "The Porsche feel", and Ford transforming the Mustang name. Yet, now the new Porsche Taycan Turbo S has no turbo. Reminds me of that old hippie song. "🎵...This is the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius...🎵"...

[@emperor002002]

Ford should've just called it an Explorer-EV.

[@stevenwilliams1805]

Ford learned something about name recognition with the windstar and last 500 but, strangely, used it on a ev suv? Also, as near as I can tell, kids today don't have the same interest in cars so, I don't know if the name is going to make any difference. But as long as they continue to make the regular Mustangs it probably won't hurt. My 01' v6 is the first American car I've owned but, having almost nothing but Japanese cars before that makes the interior feel really cheap. However, it runs suprising well with 340k on it.

[@machtschnell7452]

What's a "fox body?" The version based on the Pinto? In my day one had to order the Rally Pac to get the extra gauges. A tachometer was 9ne of them.

[@RobbieFitzgerald]

The 3rd gen Mustangs (79-93). I think theyre hideous but people seem to love them.

[@aldimore]

They really should have called the Mach E the Maverick Mach E.

[@BRAINFxck10]

Ford should've made it look like a regular Mustang fastback but with subtle differences, their marketing department should be sacked!

[@nicholasboule5134]

you mean their design department, marketing slam dunked that shit and its selling like crazy

[@ars3nic]

No, they just should have not put the Mustang badge on this vehicle, regardless of what it looks like. Simply making it look more like a traditional Mustang doesn't fix any of the issues Matt and Zack talked about. And now what are they gonna do when they inevitably make a proper powerful electric Mustang coupe? That would actually be the perfect use of the "Mach E" name, but they screwed themselves over by using it on a completely unrelated crossover. They should have just picked a new name starting with E just like all of their other SUVs have been (Explorer, Expedition, Excursion, Escape, Edge).

[@Tential1]

@@nicholasboule5134 the only people that care are the enthusiasts who just post on forums online. Enthusiasts don't open their wallet. If they did, the manual wouldn't have died.

[@Tential1]

@@nicholasboule5134 if marketing was good, they wouldn't have given the Mach e to hardcore enthusiasts like this channel causing it to have a ton of bad press. The car stalled despite marketing screwing up

[@nicholasboule5134]

@@Tential1 bro this guy bought one, it wasnt giving to him lol. he says it if you even watched the video.

[@gsheverything_2716]

Nice one guys, when is the Mach e GT coming????

[@Punisher9419]

It's the same thing with the whole AMG and M badge thing.

[@davect01]

As many have said, just drop the Mustang name. This was a big branding misstep. If it was just called the Mach-E no one (or very few) would have complained. Both seem to be great rides, just different purposes. The Mach-E is a seemingly great Electric vehicle for folks not willing to spend $50k on a vehicle

[@Japplesnap]

You guys are missing the obvious. Ford called their electric crossover a Mustang because they are turning the Mustang into a brand rather than just a model. Think about it.

[@JMartinni]

Yes, but that doesn't make it any better, does it. If beyond the name, badging and being a car the Mach-E has nothing in common with a Mustang then it's not a good fit for this Mustang brand.

[@Japplesnap]

@@JMartinni No, they are CREATING a brand. Do you have understand what that means? Mustangs will come in different configurations. Just as Ford is a brand, many different models exist. Mustangs will become a sub-brand of Ford, meaning several different types of Mustangs will exist. It has already started. We now have the Mustang as a coupe and as a crossover SUV.

[@jo05dk]

I wouldn't buy the Mach-E because i loathe that marketing bullshit. Don't care if it's a good car. Every time they sell one of these they say "another idiot bought our crap", and i won't support that mindset. ..but since you did leased one, i love that you're making this video.

[@traceypup1810]

Ultimately what you see a mustang as isn’t what a mustang is. The mustang isn’t ever the manly sports car you see it as, but instead the practical sports car for the masses. This is why Ford has always sold less V8 mustangs than the other engine choices, because it isn’t about being the bragging rights sports car, but instead the mustang is about being that fun alternative to a slightly more practical car. The Mach E is exactly that, it’s a practical car that isn’t quite as practical as some of its competitors, nor maybe not as fast, but what it lacks in stats it makes up for in being a decent value and performance. The Mach 1 was a more premium trim in its older versions including the V6 only 1976, more about a leather interior and being faster than an average mustang in style and comfort. We try to forget about the Mustang ii, as in our eyes it’s a terrible car, but it was actually a brilliant car in its time. This is exactly what a Mach E is, it’s everything Mustang that a Mustang ii was, a car than history will likely try to forget, but ultimately it’s exactly everything that the Mustang name stands for, a car for the time that it was made. A car that isn’t as affordable as an economy car, but isn’t as much as a sports car or sporty crossover with similar performance and quality. A car that can take a young family places and put smiles on faces. A car that draws more attention from non enthusiasts than enthusiasts. A car than fits in while standing out. A car that is about innovation and technology. It may not be the “muscle car” you guys see when you see the mustang as a V8 only muscle car, but that car is never what a mustang was. You only see that part of mustang’s very diverse history because you only want to see it that way. That’s why the mustang has always been, is, and will always be a pony car, not a muscle car. No, this crossover egg styled with horses isn’t a muscle car, but it is undeniably a pony car when compared to more practical and efficient yet less inspiring competitors. So, when you don’t look at the mustang as the muscle car that it never was, you see that this Mustang Mach E is exactly what a mustang always has been and always will be. Our beloved coupe isn’t going away, but the breed must adapt to survive.

[@lamma109]

you compared the mache to the other worst mustang in existence. buy your definition, a focus can be a mustang lmao. No, when you buy cars with these names, theres expectations, and a methodology for the product at hand. They keep these names for a reason. The crappy part about this car is this is just further dilution of the brand, just like M, AMG, S, etc. Its just a blantent disregard for the fans of the product, the very people that give a reason to call it a mustang in the first place.

[@traceypup1810]

@@lamma109 if there was something to water down you’d be right, but the Mustang began as skim milk and still is unless you get the rare high performance trims. I had a 93 hatch with a 2.3 automatic, this Mach E would absolutely smoke that thing. And what about my 06 GT, the car that wasn’t faster than a 95 Z28? So whatever pedestal you’ve put the mustang on as some elite muscle car is your own doing, not Fords. If Ford didn’t want to ‘water down’ the brand they’d have never brought back the 4 cylinder, never would have dropped the V6, and wouldn’t sell enough cars to pay for the mustang to exist. I appreciate that you feel so highly about the Mustang to compare it to the likes of M or AMG, but as a true Mustang lover, I have to say you’re really stretching to compare America’s favorite pony car to true hard edge performance machines like those.

[@BillLaBrie]

Well, it’s not a rebodied Falcon aimed at secretaries, if that’s what you mean…

[@AlumarsX]

I still think they should've used Lightning. Could've use a Horse with lighting going through it for a logo.

[@666cemetaryslut]

They had that one saved for the electric F150 which makes more sense imo.

[@AlumarsX]

@@666cemetarysluttrue. Galaxy's another good one.

[@hertzer2000]

The globes are neato.

[@vette6600]

I wish they’d called it the Bullitt so that Matt could disparage it’s namesake once more, and then enjoy reading the complaints in the comment section

[@lawrencesiskind3554]

I would of called it a Mercury, but what do I know? Maybe they should drop Ford entirely, introduce three newish brands: The Expedition (Expy, for short, though large vehicles), F-***in the blank #, and The Mustang.

[@_IMNNO]

Is there a flat Mova globe?

[@sspadair1675]

What do you think about the Mach E showing up at Mustang meets? I see them there, grunt, and move on. Are they interesting? Sure. Would I buy one? Maybe.

[@macmurati]

its an edge. Ford acknowledges this as well. I believe that next year/model it will be called the edge and lose the mustang moniker.

[@johnsullivan937]

That's what I always thought, it's an electric ford edge

[@kubeanie18]

Yeah no it's not an edge 😆

[@macmurati]

@@kubeanie18 you're right, its actually a focus/escape with an elongated platform. From a marketing perspective, it's akin to the Edge.

[@johnsullivan937]

@@kubeanie18 its on the cd6 platform, Which is basically an elongated cd4 (ford edge). So really yeah its a slightly longer EV ford edge. But also you're right I guess, the mach E is really an electric ford explorer. Either way you slice it, that aint no mustang chief.

[@aspiratedaloha2946]

galloping horse sounds on throttle. You’ve put that shit out there now. The nightmare will soon be complete

[@98erics]

My opinion on the Mach E is it is no more a mustang than a child with a Superman bandaid on his knee is Superman.

[@leonchen89]

Ford might as well renamed the original Mustang to Ford Donkey and give the Mustang name to this EV and its future models.

[@dannyed42]

Idk i had a mustang and I feel I don’t mind the name. I love my Mach E. Also this isn’t a fair comparable until the GT comes out. Also I feel like Ford is trying to attract both the older and younger market. As fun as mustangs are the younger generation is moving more to electric cars. Mustang sales have been on a decline so it’s not only a smart marketing move but it also opens the door to more opportunity such a taking the mustang body and making it a EV

[@ghuff31]

when your starter kit mustang is 30 grand, yeah, bad sales will follow. And this egg-shaped poser that starts at 40 thousand ain't changing that.

[@RogueCow]

Everyone I have spoken with at Ford hates the marketing team for this....

[@BurtSampson]

I think everyone knows the calling the Mach-E a Mustang was nothing but marketing. It's an electric SUV, of course it's not a mustang.

[@michaelperry9580]

I disagree on two points. The macan IS a suv version of the 911. Hood and headlights, and the gauges. 2nd think mustang is a great brand and it should endure. It may not make sense to have a sports car electric car because electric is already so fast you don’t need a little car

[@timbarito5586]

that mova globe is really damn cool lol

[@gnoxycat]

I know it would be a lot but would love to see you guys take a Tesla on a road trip and this to compare charging saturation. Preferably some place out of California like LA to Grand Canyon.

[@davevan9150]

The original mustang brought an emerging type of vehicle (pony car) to the masses. Mach E could do the same, but only if they put the same effort in marketing behind it. So it is a mustang for today's market.

[@SnowWhiteMR2]

This all makes a lot of sense

[@johnadams8212]

It’s more Escape Mach E than Mustang Mach E.

[@jue_boy4135]

What watch is Zak wearing?

[@Wirenfeldt1990]

Bremont.. Alti-Z I think?

[@basithph8958]

Did the Mach E have to be a crossover? And why did have to have a Mustang name? Well at least we still got the Mach 1 and GT500 as well as the GT

[@Tential1]

Only if Ford wanted to make money, I understand your concern, but your concern is irrelevant when it comes to actually making money. Just look at the Porsche Cayenne and the Lamborghini Urus. It's okay to be an Enthusiast, but if these car companies actually listen to you guys they would be bankrupt and then you wouldn't even get your Mach 1 or your GT500. People want SUVs and crossovers, that's what's selling so if you aren't going to make that, you'll never going to be able to make the high-end Mustang that you're never going to buy, and only will look at in KZbin videos

[@basithph8958]

@@Tential1 Yeah but at least Porsche didn't go and call the Cayenne a 911 sports nor did Lamborghini called the Urus a Murcielago or Aventador and so on and those are actually good SUVs that are very capable If anything most people who driven the Mach E just said it handled well and that was just about it plus there are better cars out there be it cars, crossovers, SUVs, trucks or even ICE or electric cars especially for value

[@Topher7527]

@@basithph8958 the kinds of people who buy Lambos and Porsches will likely be much more aware of the distinction between names and models. Your average Ford crossover customer sees Mustang and thinks sporty. Throwing Mustang on the car will likely help sales. Something like Galax-E just wouldn't have the same pull.

[@basithph8958]

@@Topher7527 Well eh for me there are better cars out there with better features, better build quality, better value, and even better safety

[@lakah]

I test drove the Mach-E and it definitely pulls. Handles great too. I owned a 68 Mustang and it definitely wasn’t as fast as the Mach-E.

[@coreykononchuk]

This is EXACTLY how I feel! If they had named it anything else, I wouldn't have a single gripe about it. Naming it "Mustang" is silly at best, outright blasphemy at worst. Luckily I'm not a Ford guy but as a car guy it just makes zero sense. Maybe they'll get smart and change the name in a year or two.

[@deathcass]

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[@neohimself]

Absolutely great talk. The Mach-E may be a nice EV, but its pathetic that Ford called it a Mustang. Its so stupidly "tryhard"...

[@MarioDallaRiva]

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[@RobbieFitzgerald]

Yes exactly. Get people talking.