Is EPIRUS the MOST IMPOSSIBLE start in EU4?

EU4 Epirus is easily one of the most difficult nations in EU4. It's also one of the most interesting! Today, I attempt to ressurect this latin crusader state by fighting the Ottomans, Venice, and everyone else! But mainly the Ottomans. If you can survuve as Epirus in EU4, it's one of the most fun nations for sure! Shades of EU4 Athens and EU4 Theodoro in this one, but in EU4 1.33!
Let's see, Is EPIRUS the MOST IMPOSSIBLE start in EU4?
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EDIT: I MADE A SECOND PART! - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp2kmIuQrsRqbdE Flat development makes this harder and you can FIGHT ME IF YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY! Slightly different style, so let me know what you think! What kind of editing would you like to see etc.? I made this one longer because some people asked for it, so we'll see how you react! Any and all feedback is welcome!

[@Lux__Veritatis]

Took me a solid 10 minutes before I noticed the change in your music. I think by now, it's part of your brand so I hope it shows up in places where you do some really silly schenanigans :D More Laith is never bad... don't make me regret saying that.

[@edemortoth7974]

How do you spell L43th?

[@nicolasmiani750]

I think there could be a between, 30 min or so videos. Or just do a mix of 10/15 min videos and 40 min ones like this. But you should definitely up the music, I thought it didn't had any for most of the video.

[@skyebendorf915]

I love the longer form videos

[@aneneej]

Thank you Laith very cool

[@Ariastes707]

Laith: can't afford renaissance Also Laith : Just one more spin on the advisor roulette. I FEEL LUCKY!

[@thomasvrielink299]

The funniest part being his entire nation was the wrong religion, so there was exactly 0% chance of him getting the missionary he was looking for

[@TheSocialStreamers]

I’m a gambling man. Help

[@Rullino32]

@@thomasvrielink299 Good thing he has 100% religious unity and Greek as an accepted culture unlike the Knights or else his only province could've had more separatists than his army and the game could've ended earlier

[@sizanogreen9900]

40min+ Laith gameplay? count me in!

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Hahaha, glad you're liking it!

[@sizanogreen9900]

@@TheSocialStreamers was great, thank you very much!

[@suplified]

yes more long eu4 content

[@Adrien_Pecnosvar]

*Lateef

[@more17]

Athens was the campaign that was so nice that Leith is effectively doing it twice. 😉

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Flat development edition 😎

[@docanlowwolnacod8470]

@@TheSocialStreamers deliberately of course

[@sosukelele]

@@docanlowwolnacod8470 as a treat

[@E4439Qv5]

Flathens

[@jvpit3r776]

Epirus was actually the first nation I played in EU4. I was completely new to the game and had no idea what to do. After 8 hours I finally survived the first 15 years and by improving my relations with Aragon I got Malta. After it I migrated to North Africa and left the damn Balkans. My next campaign was Byzantium. Guess I didn’t learn from the first experiences :D

[@zoger3717]

I appreciate the new edit style with zooming on stuff and putting meme into it like the monopoly men !

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Glad you’re enjoying it and thanks for feedback!

[@flyingcapybara8202]

The 'good job Laith' at the start killed me.

[@Americano1175]

32:50 You know, historically speaking, Austria doesn't often do well in world wars

[@Designer-Speech7143]

Casual EU4 players: Purple phoenix. Chad Laith: Latin white phoenix go brrrrrr!

[@justinmcdonald2502]

Best Epirus game I've had, started aristocratic ideas, beat back the Otto's after 3 difficult wars, got the cossacks from Crimean land, turned to Jerusalem and by that time could take divine ideas. Turned around and in the same lifetime made two Sicilys and turned to a republic and took Plutocratic ideas. Gotta say, some of the best policies I've ever dreamed of.

[@yagzakarca6445]

I love how fun you make every campaign I just watch them again and again and again but it never gets old

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Thanks for saying this, mate!

[@roedagardet]

Really enjoyed this longer form of video!

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Sweet!

[@Jamie-st6of]

love the long video!! and a fun subject as well! i'm enjoying the more comedic editing style. if you choose to lean into that more, i'd support it, but the gameplay and commentary are primarily what i'm here for :-) also please share your history knowledge more! i enjoy history, which is a big part of why i enjoy map games!

[@TheSocialStreamers]

The Dutch once ate a government official

[@Jamie-st6of]

@@TheSocialStreamers oh shit i think i lve heard this one actually!!

[@ryalswygant2423]

It would be cool if the Latin empire was a formable nation

[@TheSocialStreamers]

I’d love this

[@spymaster3366]

''we are taking loans to pay existing loans'' thats exactly what we the modern greeks are doing nice role play

[@woilock3396]

>plays a nation with +4 tolerance of heretics >spends 100 ducats he doesnt have on getting an advisor to convert heretics

[@E4439Qv5]

Why tolerate what you can fix for a cost worse than leaving it alone? **taps forehead**

[@lordedmundblackadder9321]

“There’s about to be a world war, and I don’t know what side I want to be.” -Italy, 1914.

[@ChlorineKnight]

Its so good to have a long episode instead of the usual 10 min ones that is usually uploaded.

[@joseph_c5914]

Hey man thanks for a longer video, I probably won’t finish all of this tonight but I can’t wait to finish this video as soon as possible. Keep the great videos coming

[@tijmenzwijnenburg9488]

ooh love the extra edits with the zooms and shakes!!

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@billybill1642]

More long videos like this would be great

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Can do!

[@ZlewikkTV]

Laith cheating on flat dev as always!

[@Poooeoeoeoe]

This is true

[@TheSocialStreamers]

I just can’t help myself

[@WhiteLama]

See, I told you on Reddit we trusted your integrity and here you post a video with a short explanation for the England video, even though you didn’t have to

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Hahaha, thanks!

[@oliverthomas-couch]

I was just watching the Athens series again, perfect timing

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Similar vibes!

[@oliverthomas-couch]

@@TheSocialStreamers all we need it the Teutons to beat Poland and Granada to stop the Reconquista

[@allanpritchett3578]

Big fan of the 40 minute video keep up the good work

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Thanks mate!

[@Blackjackwhiskey]

Awesome game! Incredibly stressful. Much tougher run than the knight's one. Congrats. Should continue that. Beat up the Mamluks as well.

[@TheSocialStreamers]

We shall see!

[@RussianBot-xu7wl]

Laith is easily the most entertaining EU4 content creator on the internet. Some may be better in the more technical aspects of the game, but no one is as fun to watch. The streams are pretty great too. I highly recommend checking out their twitch channel for more extended content and Laith generally losing his grip on his sanity, great times.

[@pidde1633]

Top quality as always!

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Thanks!

[@lyamsky]

I actually really love the humanist/innovative crusader state idea

[@MrBattlecharge]

@21:20 "Get rid of that Focus" Me, with 4000+ hours of gameplay, just now realizing that you can do that.

[@eldanaroilumbar]

I was on the edge of my seat the whole time, thriller of the year!

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Awesome, great to hear!

[@walihalabi7445]

Im loving the editing

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Glad to hear it!

[@galeinnight]

Hell yeah, finally a long gameplay video i can kill my time meanwhile

[@Arty123]

Love this new style

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Glad to hear it!

[@1LifeGaming1]

Laith saying in first few mins "Epirus to Ireland" sounds like a fun idea. But even more fun and further from the Ottomans would be United States of Epirus 😆

[@rubenvanbelzen1217]

I loved this video! Especially because it was 40 minutes(and I don’t have anything better to do xD)

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Thanks mate! (I think)

[@Karsuuue]

Aight, nice chill video after that crazy stream sounds good to me

[@TheSocialStreamers]

That stream was... a thing

[@saintbread5080]

I love the new editing, I realised it even before I saw the comment.

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Glad to hear it!

[@Arcenus237J]

This felt like an special episode of a show where instead of 20 minutes it's 40! I like it.

[@kgapaneseschoolgirlb]

Yes please play more of this!

[@GettingMyLifeTogether2024]

idk if it helps, but the chance of a missionary advisor is based on the amount of true faith provinces you have.

[@TheSocialStreamers]

HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS

[@AlexFireflyer]

Yay, my city! I'm from Arta! Go Epirus!

[@TheSocialStreamers]

YES LAD

[@celalal2979]

40 minutes of Laith is all I need while I eat

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@CagataySahin1]

My old ottoman game: Conquest all of greece Epirus in malta Knights: oh shit, here we go again

[@tomaszobremski7931]

Poles follow one simple war strategy - "Polska Gurom" - Mariusz Pudzianowski

[@idontlikerome2744]

11:02 "We have to accept that Constantinople is gonna fall" NEVER! Rather live in a lie

[@tigrecito48]

i did a war against otto recently while allied to mamluks... a tiny tunis was involved cos spain had taken most of it... mamluks took the 4 provinces of tunis.. so i gave what i thought was all that land to mamluks cos i didnt want it.. but wierdly i didnt realise mamluks had given the control to me (saxony) so i ended up with it.. i was surprised that mamluks wouldnt want that land right next to them... anyway im glad they didnt want it now cos it made it easier for me to attack spain later on..

[@cellceair8772]

How badly does flat dev nerf the Ottomans? Obviously with Constantinople not being huge dev. But does it weaken their typical rivals too? I would guess the Mamluks get a relative buff due to province count.

[@TheSocialStreamers]

IT MAKES EPIRUS HELLISH TO PLAY

[@denisklemont2540]

Shiii... 40 min video. Lucky day xD

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Glad you like it!

[@elhabeed1040]

I pressed the like button cause it's 40+ min video .... I love it

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Glad to hear it!

[@crocker9201]

Trent would be a fun nation to play

[@YavuzBel]

Chad Poland AI only fights in unfavorable terrain, avoids favorable terrain and still wins.

[@xanatar3009]

If you ever get a bunch of allies helping you in a war but you need money - take war reps over cash.

[@mcalkis5771]

Please continue this is such a cool campaign!

[@tigrecito48]

when i played as opm custom nation Sparta i declared on Byzantium too & Serbia was their ally... i was really lucky though cos serbia did initially get acces & start sieging my provinces but i was already on Constantinople & had sieged their other land down and then ottomans declared on byzantium after i already had all their land sieged down (dumb move by otto) and so they killed off the serbians for me... and i took all of byzantium

[@INDAlake]

Big fan of Long Laith over here

[@TheSocialStreamers]

That’s a nickname I’ve not heard before

[@Laxinator3000]

Literally in greece rn can confirm a wc from here would be hard

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Have you tried trying harder?

[@Laxinator3000]

@@TheSocialStreamers im planning on making a move on athens soon

[@magatmilan8925]

How the hell do you accidentally play on flat dev lol Great video mate

[@TheSocialStreamers]

I do many things like this

[@TheUnnamedPlayerOfficial]

"We are taking out loans to pay our loans!" didn't know we were gonna form greece today

[@bapabs]

40 minutes of Laith content? What did I do to deserve such a treat!

[@alexanderfrederickson4637]

I think you actually left random dev on. Flat dev makes every province 11 dev, so overall better than most provinces in the game; whereas for some reason reloading the game while random dev is on, makes every province 3 dev.

[@alistair9283]

Fantastic video la

[@erikkarlsson861]

"Why is it never easy fighting the ottomans??" Said every Habsburg ever...

[@Jamie-st6of]

liked and subbed bc the funny magna carta joke

[@imdyt8772]

long videos are the best

[@darthceasar3690]

so in this laith game the AI poland become chad huh

[@TheSocialStreamers]

There’s always one

[@tigrecito48]

i had an idea how to make the game better with forts & zones of control.. i think forts should have offensive capability. I think coastal forts should have zones of control as well with offensive capability. In ww1, the main reason we couldnt successfully invade gallipoli is because we didnt take control of the seas, their coastal forts (otto) kept damaging our ships (& also sea mines) - My idea is this... you keep the zones of control where you cant enter or pass by the fort (also adding it to coastal sea areas - making coastal forts more useful for building) BUT - the attacker can have the option to ignore the zone of control and try to pass by the fort, taking damage each month until out of the zone of control... ive played strategy games before with this option from 15+ years ago... it is highly unrealistic that an army cant pass by a fort if they so choose

[@BobBlevin]

WW1 is not in the eu4 timeline.

[@Jamie-st6of]

there is a naval battery building that causes attrition to hostile ships adjacent to it

[@tigrecito48]

@@Jamie-st6of yeah attrition i guess is the same thing... but it doesnt add a zone of control. my point is there should be an auto zone of control unless you decide to ignore it like it asks you if you want to ignore it & take damage.

[@TURKISHFINALBOSS]

hey Lath do you plan on doing imperator Rome one day

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Maybe!

[@TURKISHFINALBOSS]

@@TheSocialStreamers thunk you so much Mate 😎🤩

[@Koagulat]

Nice Video

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Thanks!

[@baldericconstantinus1453]

Would like if u continue campaign

[@henrysmith9219]

Ironic, that when you fought the Ottomans, you technically won but at a great cost. It’s like you were following the legacy of Pyrrhus with a Pyrrhic victory

[@gringlebandersnatch]

Well that's my evening sorted. Hopefully you don't win to many battles at the cost of a greater victory....yanno there should be a name for that.

[@TheSocialStreamers]

A Laith victory

[@gringlebandersnatch]

@@TheSocialStreamers seconded.

[@directrulefromgamerchair3947]

Winged hussars basically sweeping the timurids from anatolia... based

[@AnomalyVoid]

Is this dude cosplaying Kiryu from Yakuza in this stream he did?

[@charliecriscione2246]

You should go get the Kosovo gold mine might help with the losing money problem

[@Blackjackwhiskey]

Indeed! That would be my main priority!

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Not a bad shout

[@lovroantobarisic8901]

All this work to replace the green color by the white one.

[@wpjohn91]

Hate in the latest patch u cant view loans easily in the econemy tab

[@matheusGMN]

wait, this video was posted first in reddit? what? I don't get what you were trying to say at the beginning

[@dimitrisg45]

How come and you didn't change to orthodoxy and greek culture ?

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Roleplay!

[@dimitrisg45]

@@TheSocialStreamers cursed roleplay, I see

[@mikethequestioningpineappl5083]

Taking loans to pay loans? Yep seems Greek to me

[@wiel5908]

we need 100k to get ulm travel

[@ColonelCatnip]

This needs a continue. So much drama!

[@FixYourGameplay]

What is flat dev?

[@TheSocialStreamers]

All provinces have the same development!

[@Tho-ugh-t]

guys, he GAINED manpower while fighting the ottomans, a true gigachad

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Literally the best of all time

[@johan4989]

Your student loans are 6%?!

[@CoverCode]

i have barely played the game, what does flat development do?

[@profesordino]

666 likes, had to drive the devil away from leith by liking 🙏

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Doing god’s work out here

[@therealmrkrabs6413]

Epic

[@tigrecito48]

my saxony playthru in 1560 otto had 194k troops... seems like quite a lot.. is that normal for that time?

[@Jamie-st6of]

that's a fairly small army for ottos in 1560

[@tigrecito48]

@@Jamie-st6of ive never seen it that big.. its only 100 years in.. they havent conquered anyone.. id already beaten them in 2 wars before that where they had 69k and then 110k.. most of the balkans are my vassal byzantium & bulgaria.. they are not very big

[@polishgopnik1914]

What does flat dev do?

[@Jamie-st6of]

every province has the same development

[@polishgopnik1914]

@@Jamie-st6of thanks.

[@tigrecito48]

anyone know what the max diplo reputation you can have? ive got around 9.3 as Saxony...

[@NothingSerious...2]

theoretically there is no max limit. practically I'd say around 20 (stacking missions of different countries + ideas)

[@tigrecito48]

@@NothingSerious...2 what does it do? is there a limit on what the advantages are? do the advantages for a higher number increase in a linear fashion or get gradually worse? ie 5 a is twice as good as a 2.5 but a 10 is only 1.5 times better than a five? etc... im assuming it effects likelihood to get allies, speed of vassal integration etc.. anything else? does it make it less likely people will coalition you? decrease ae? is there a list somewhere of all its effects? im wondering if there is an OP way to max diplo so you just end up conquering the world without ever having to war... for example i got 2 PU's as saxony without even trying.. England and palpatine.. i almost never get pus but often im below 0 diplo rep...

[@NothingSerious...2]

@@tigrecito48 Dip rep helps you with getting allies (it's 1 of the modifiers) and with anexing subjects. However it's not all. For example you can integrate your personal union after your king dies - the chance is based on diplo rep. This can save some diplo point and time. It also helps gettting PU - another modifier is development. About scaling - i think linear but honestly i don't know. You can't WC normally just by stacking diplo rep due to 2 reasons: you can PU only christian nations. you can diplomatically vasalise contries only below 100 or 200 dev( i believe it's rather 100)

[@Poooeoeoeoe]

Hey

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Hello!

[@thestars4427]

Hoi4 but weird..?

[@I_want_White_Cheddar_Popcorn]

Flat development?

[@makaan1932]

Abandoned offensive ideas instead of humanists. That hurts.

[@luisdoyer3260]

God I hate the ottomans, they're always such a pain to deal with.

[@Jamie-st6of]

cheater cheater pumpkin eater

[@TheSocialStreamers]

How DARE you? I’d never touch pumpkin.

[@icybelua]

Where's the Armenians 👏

[@erti4531]

Phyrus was Illyrian 🇦🇱🇽🇰💪🏻💪🏻

[@Jamie-st6of]

famous for his pyrrhic victory over rome :-)

[@aarengraves9962]

Phyrrus *NEVER Illyrian* Phyrus always greek. 🇬🇷🇬🇷💪🏻💪🏻

[@thomaskaiser7869]

Hi

[@Poooeoeoeoe]

Ha hey

[@TheSocialStreamers]

Hello!