Shocking WrestleMania Match Outcomes (#2 Stone Cold Turns Heel!)

[@bullet2852]

Stone Cold Steve Austin turning heel and aligning himself with Vince McMahon was the official end of the Attitude Era, but Steve Austin’s heel work during that time was phenomenal.

[@jordan12118]

Bullet 285 I thought the end of the attitude era was Wrestlemania 19?

[@Devin0835]

Jordan Davis no 17 was by 19 we were already well into the ruthless aggression era

[@YourMarvelFan]

Well technically the official "end" of the attitude era was after the draft in 2002 but I understand what you mean

[@kierenbuckley370]

nah it was way too comical

[@PolarisCastillo]

He regrets it tho

[@WrecklessEating]

Still love everything about this match. Sad it all fell apart later on mostly because of the Alliance storyline getting in the way.

[@tayojones9460]

Corbin vs Kurt will be rubbish. If Austin wasn't retired, he could have been Kurt's final opponent.

[@julianhardy4777]

I hated the Stone Cold heel turn, because of what it represented. 1.) Low Ratings 2.) The death of WCW 3.) The Invasion angle (that was an abomination) 4.) Like Solomonster said, THE DAMN "WHAT" CHANTS!

[@osc-oldschoolclips5204]

Agreed, but Steve Austin is still the boss! Saying that as a Rocky mark.

[@jaybaker9750]

Solomonster’s rant at the end about the “What?” chant had me cracking me up. Lol

[@romerrosmith7056]

The streak ending at 30 is going to be #1

[@MrBooBeeDoo]

No shit.

[@jey4908]

Hey Solomonster. Im currently going through something and your podcast has been a big help. Thanks! Ive been listening since 2014. Props for continuously giving us great content.

[@TheSolomonster]

Stay strong, brother

[@odizz2k11]

I just finished watching wrestlemania x-seven man I was happy looking back that I was able to witness the attitude era

[@kierenbuckley370]

funny how many millions of fans left wwf, wcw and wrestling once this happened and have never returned tbh can't blame them was all wwe fault

[@Jam2437]

"I hate that fucking thing with every fiber of my being and wish it would die in a fire" - the greatest line of Solomonster and I would love to use it when the time will come.

[@TheStats85]

My favorite Wrestlemania and theme too

[@erisi236]

the #1 shocking Wrestlmania moment is the 1992 Royal Rumble

[@TheSolomonster]

LOL

[@anthonysamuels7393]

😂

[@alexmelendez6732]

I still believe hhh turning face woulda kept business going. I think hhh needed to be face. They were already cheering him on raw that night.

[@megamanxhunter]

I think that's what they intended to do after Wrestlemania 17 but HHH didn't want to become babyface. Also, I do think they wanted to turn HHH babyface after Judgement Day 2001, and they were gonna do the 2 Man Power Trip breakup when they lost the tag titles to Chris Benoit and Y2J, but that didn't happen because of HHH's quad injury.

[@sonicheroxd5767]

There will never be another Mania like X-Seven. This was when WWE/F truly peaked. The only thing recently that has come close to X-Seven was TakeOver: New Orleans last year. Once Stone Cold turned heel and WCW died, wrestling lost its luster. It's not as mainstream as it use to be. Sure WWE have all these sponsors and have all these news outlets talking about them. They have their own streaming service. But they keep losing more and more fans every single year. Wrestling will never be as big as it once was during the Attitude Era. It just won't. The death of WCW really was the worst thing to ever happen to the wrestling business. I'm hopeful for AEW. I hope they become a successful alternative. But they will never reach the height WCW did in terms of competition for WWE.

[@SirJoelsuf1]

Here's a shocking Mania outcome: Mania 35 actually being halfway decent.

[@jaqondnorris8889]

Shocking moment after a tremendous match and WrestleMania

[@anthonyrivera2306]

I thought this was gonna be #1 for sure.

[@jonathanlewis13jl]

It says WM "match" endings so I assume the streak is #1

[@jasonwilcoxen4121]

I can literally feel every word of this like goosebumps, just reliving it as you talk. Nothing like experiencing the attitude era as it was happening.

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

Stone Cold turning heel and beating The Rock for the title with Vince Mcmahon's help was shocking and the sight of the hated rivals shaking hands made it even more jaw dropping, i wasn't really a fan of it but i respect Austin for wanting to go in a different direction with his character and he did some cool stuff during the first half of that run. I completely agree with you Solomonster about how good things were back then compared to now, you really had to live through that time to truly appreciate that era. Wrestlemania 17 is still for me the greatest one in the history of the company.

[@ThunderForce2000]

In terms of ratings WWE has never recovered from the decision to turn Steve Austin heel.

[@coansm]

Best show of all time, this was as good as it gets, feel bad for anybody who missed this live. This was pro wrestling.

[@PolarisCastillo]

I'll never forget watching this live. I even remember hurrying my dad as we drove home that day from family time. Walking in, the Jericho/Regal match was already under way

[@blaineperry4099]

I know I couldn't have been the only fan that was EXTREMELY pissed off when Austin shook hands with Vince and turned heel.

[@TheStats85]

Blaine Perry I was shocked that happened

[@TheJuliet316]

I was shocked that they actually went through with it. There had been rumors for weeks that it would happen (hell one of their own talent confirmed it), and most didn't want it. Still shocked that they not only went through with it, but that the fans would go with it.

[@blaineperry4099]

The next night I thought they were teasing the fact that he got want he wanted and they aims to stunner Vince...Man was I super wrong.

[@TheJuliet316]

@@blaineperry4099 We all were. We all were. :-(

[@blaineperry4099]

Those chairs shots....I was basically like..."Welp, The Rock is dead"

[@miguelmaldonadojr.56]

You know what's fun? Saying "what" after every sentence Solomon saids. I love the "what" chants.

[@unclelloyd]

Nobody smashed the "What?" chant like the Undertaker; "Say 'what' if you like to sleep with your own sister..."

[@zeppelin342]

I always thought Triple H’s feud with Austin easily could have continued. They had such a good feud before Austin won the Rumble. It was intense, it was interesting, and most of all the animosity felt real. That’s why it literally made no sense that Triple H aligned with Austin. Mind boggling that WWF creative seemed to have forgotten all the stuff between them. Such a missed opportunity.

[@craigoneill2216]

I just imagined a giant what sign in a house on fire 😂

[@Simouno]

The end of the Attitude Era, the birth of the Ruthless Aggression which to me is 10x better of a time period

[@NathanKJohnson]

I think Solomonster takes that "What!?" chant personal. That rant in the end, I felt pure hate.

[@jarmend363]

Any takers wanna guess #1?

[@jarmend363]

@@fc775 yes I am the best in the world lol but seriously the second he put this list, it was obvious what #1 was going to be. If it's not , he better have a real strong case why. I get that it is his list but still

[@YourMarvelFan]

Greatest WrestleMania of all time for me is either 19 or 31.

[@craigoneill2216]

Austin got a small measure of revenge for mick Foley with that chair that night!

[@patriciamorgan2521]

WrestleMania 19 for me was the best top to bottom WrestleMania.

[@alvinjohnson215]

If would be for me too, if only Booker T beat Triple H.

[@TheWinstonSlip]

I think the triangle ladder match from WM 2000 and TLC 3 from Smackdown are both underrated

[@jaynyce5923]

I still say the “Yes!” Chant is more annoying

[@deputydog3137]

The audience stopped doing the what chants to undertaker when he changed his gimmick

[@ECW5320]

20:38 Damn Jason lol.

[@MrLawyer711]

If Solomonster ever speaks in public or something I hope the crowd chants WHAT? at him

[@TheBlackScatPack]

I was in 7th grade when this happened and I was sick when Austin turned heel. I was so hurt being a huge Stone Cold fan. It makes you wonder how things would have gone if Austin called an audible.

[@ForWhatItsWorth_]

Triple H beating Austin at No Way Out that year made no sense.

[@georgesanders9911]

The streak ending is gonna be 1. I can just feel it

[@PolarisCastillo]

Obviously

[@yedffgd]

Hmm... I wonder what number 1 could be. I just can’t think of anything.

[@PolarisCastillo]

...lol

[@kdogskennel]

#1 has to be Brock ending The Streak at WrestleMania XXX, my opinion anyways :) Been loving this countdown!

[@briancromartie3149]

You probably right.

[@NathanKJohnson]

I never minded the “What?” chant. But it only works for Austin. Now fans do it just because, like when they did it to Undertaker in 2012.

[@emirlsanchos6302]

Some called this an unexpected turn that left them shocked. However, I could sense Austin heading for a heel turn after the Three Stages of Hell match with Triple H. Where a bloodied and battered Steve walks up the ramp, stops, turns and just has this look of slight regret on his face after failing to win the final stage. Telegraphing the change of heart he'd undergo before "Shaking hands with the devil himself" and hinted at further with his sudden drive to win the WWE Championship at any cost.

[@tayojones9460]

2001. Back when I actually cared about WWF/WWE.

[@Dragonflames86]

B.C. (Best Creativity) A.D. (Austin's Departure)

[@theluckiesteh9058]

April 1, 2001.... The Last Day of Classic Pro Wrestling.

[@Calleb44]

I honestly didn't have a problem with the heel turn. I think it added tremendous shock value. I feel as if the timing would've been better had the Rock not left shortly after to film the movie. Obviously you couldn't keep Austin heel forever, but it was definitely worth a shot. I think the timing was what mainly contributed to the move not really coming to fruition.

[@addi543]

The problem with Austin turning heel wasn’t that it was bad timing or the Anti-Mega Powers partnership with Hunter. The problem was that instead of trying to elevate new talent like Benoit, Jericho, Edge and Christian or The Hardy’s (anyone remember the vicious beat down they received from the Two-Man Power Trip), they have him feud with Undertaker at one of, if not the worst in-ring year in his career. In both PPV matches they had, you could tell Austin was struggling to be a heel. Austin didn’t start getting over as a heel until he was facing Benoit, Jericho and Angle.

[@jamesmorant1406]

I agree Austin heel Turn was bad he could been baby Face as long as he wanted too Still A great match and he had some entertaining moments as a heel

[@megamanxhunter]

I think for what they were going for, it made sense because stone cold was so obsessed with winning the title by any means necessary.

[@Dreammaster695]

Fandango beating Chris Jericho should be number 1

[@2682shark]

The day the Attitude Era died

[@JustinStinoStamosZamora42]

Agreed, even tho many argued with me. I don't know how you can argue with that.

[@TriplomatX]

I should have said this. How did I not come up with this during my prediction? This shocked me like, No way,.....I was sad when he did......like, Nooo......

[@santiagoteneyuque80]

Kicking Puppies now THAT'S Stone cold

[@ToeTag9899]

I love this era of wrestling so much from the fall of 2000 up to WM17 was almost perfect only if WCW & ECW didn't go out of business the alliance angle was another horrible thing to come out of 2001 there's only a few cool moments to come out of it DDP debut was pretty epic when he came out on takers bike and took off the ski mask crazy pop.

[@bradleydore4820]

I wonder what number 1 is...lol

[@jamesmorant1406]

Bradley Brock Beating Undertaker No question

[@bradleydore4820]

@@jamesmorant1406 no way. Lol

[@Dreammaster695]

Fandango beating Chris Jericho? A lot of people had a feeling lesnar would beat taker but who thought that a jobber would beat one of the greatest of all time lol

[@AEWFULWRESTLING]

The number one shocking moment will be John Cena versus The Miz. Mark it.

[@UchihaMadara-xr7yw]

Crab Skull streak iver

[@AEWFULWRESTLING]

gah!!! right

[@JustinStinoStamosZamora42]

I couldn't stand Heyman on commentary. His voice drove me nuts. I'd rather listen to a 3 hour sex tape of Fran Drescher and Gilbert Gottfried.

[@harshavardhan-iy2rc]

I know Takers streak ending would be 1.....but in my opinion Austin turning heel was a bigger shock...... Let me put my perspective and I know it's subjective but here's why Brock comes back.....gets massive ovation......they keep calling him "THE BEAST INCARNATE"....looses to Cena(I know he handed Cena his ass) but still 0-1 Then he wrestles triple h at summerslam and has a dud 1-1 Then the almighty king of kings conquers "THE BEAST INCARNATE " .....1-2.....Brock then beats almighty HHH with an assist from Paul heyman......now the supposed "BEAST INCARNATE" is struggling to beat an old HHH....2-2 Had probably the best match of the year against Punk.....that match helped Punk look like a badass while "BEAST INCARNATE' barely beats punk with heyman's involvement 3-2..... Going into wrestlemania I thought Brock needed something to legitimise his "BEAST INCARNATE" persona....and thought he needed to win a big match convincingly...and logically it helped that he beat The undertaker....had he lost......wtf is so impressive about supposed "BEAST INCARNATE" when he's losing against a beat up guy, struggling to win against a veteran and needing assist to beat a beat up guy..... Plus people forget by that point Brock at that point because of aforementioned reasoned had lost some of his mistique and appeal.......all in all if you put 2 and 2 together it's not as shocking as Austin turning heel......I think people were way too invested(rightly so) in Daniel Bryan story........literally no one I know even had fathomed Austin joining hands with Vince in 2001.... Sorry for the long post.....I know I'm still probably in the minority but I thought I'd give an insight to what I was thinking even in 2014....... Great show solomonster....lots of love and more so respect for putting amazing shows week after week for such a long time 😁😁

[@PlusUltraAdrian]

I agree that this was a bad call. Austin should have won clean and he and Rock should have showed respect and sportsmanship towards each other. And then have Booker T, DDP, and a couple of other WCW guys attack them both. The beat up the Rock so bad that he has to be out of action for a few months (so that he can film his movie). And then have Triple H, Undertaker, and Kane come down to even the odds. Only for more WCW guys to show up and beat them down as well. Then have Shane enter the ring and pose with his WCW guys.

[@carlossaldana8388]

Solomonster, To me, The greatest pre match promo package will always be best in the world 2011.. Edwards vs Richards 😬

[@rhetttravolta9879]

Perfect.. Solomon, I couldn't agree with you more.. Everything you said about this was spot on.. I HATE that stupid "what" chant with a passion. Enjoy WrestleMania tonight bud.

[@briancromartie3149]

Best Mania Ever. 👏👏

[@Darthpsychonis]

I understand Austin wanting to shake things up and side with Vince rather than just keep doing the same thing over and over, but to me it was the botched invasion angle that was really the beginning of the end.

[@acelarson911]

in hindsight could Austin be responsible for the resurgence of pro wrestling in 97-98 and also responsible for the decline in 01-02, he killed (maybe through no fault of his own) what he gave birth too??

[@jasonjimerson7046]

Don't blame the "What?" chant on heel Austin... That idea is shared between Austin and Christian over an odd phone call they had with each over and it caught on fire with the fans even to this very day! People who hate the "What?" chant are ones who don't know the history of it or ones who didn't make money off of it. And that chant was going to happen no matter if Austin was face or heel at the time since it was very popular while Austin was both face and heel.

[@TheSolomonster]

I'm well aware of its origins and it doesn't make me hate it any less

[@biblicaladrian6007]

Glad I moved to Texas

[@phoenixstar5000]

HHH winning that 3 stages of hell match made no sense at all (It made Austin look weak going to mania)

[@victorcastillo2416]

If WWF wanted to make a credible heel in HHH, then he'd eventually have to get a big win against Austin at some point in order to solidify his spot as a top heel that could believably contend with the likes of Austin, Rock, Taker, etc. If a heel talks smack and loses when it matters most, then it doesn't make sense to have that heel in the title picture and in main events. Gotta make him a credible, believable heel first. If he says, "I'm coming for the heavyweight championship, I'm gonna destroy you, etc.", he's an actual threat. Cheers, brother 👍

[@phoenixstar5000]

@@victorcastillo2416 HHH was already a credible heel since 2000 thanks to Foley, so what are you talking about. (The fact of the matter is that it made Austin look weak going into the main event at mania 17 for the wwf title.) (Austin should've won that 3 stages of hell match period)

[@johnsos9]

Surprised the hell out of me back then. I NEVER thought in a million years that WWE would turn Steve Austin heel. What came after that...meh. The stuff with Angle and Vince was funny up until the InVasion angle started. The only thing we got out of that besides the comedy bits is the What? chants...which still happens some 18 years later. I always thought the Austin turn is why WWE was so reluctant to turn John Cena heel. There would be different dynamics involved with Cena but I always thought that. I think WWE seen it as a bust which is they turned him twice and then they turned him back to babyface immediately after Survivor Series 2001.

[@SirJoelsuf1]

Cena could have went bad after Mania 28 or 29, could have FU'd Rock after any of those matches. If he did it at Mania 28, Punk could have been a good guy for the rest of 2012, and if he did it at Mania 29, he could have continued the rivalry with a returning CM Punk and could have been a fantastic "corporate Cena" bad guy against Daniel Bryan.

[@Dreammaster695]

Would make more sense for Paul heyman to help Austin beat rock and create the alliance since he used to be in ecw and then fued against Vince

[@SirJoelsuf1]

Yeah, Austin's roots were in WCW and ECW. Performed for about five years across both. It's Angle and Christian joining the Alliance that made ZERO sense.

[@Batman1084CK]

I do not mind Austin turning heel... but I think him needing McMahon to beat Rock was a major downer and soured the match. It would have been far more tolerable if he went as a solo-heel and just took Vince's help and then stunned him too post-match. The handshake was crap..... (my opinion)

[@effarrjay]

Wasn't it Stone Cold who wanted to team with Triple H not the other way around?

[@quintonmerkson899]

What?! What?! What?! What?!

[@TtheManInTheArena]

I think we all know what number 1 is.

[@theoneandonly7063]

What What What whatw what what what what what what

[@nihilist2434]

I agree the heel turn is terrible but I still agree with Austin for not jobbing to Lesnar most overrated wrestler I've ever seen in my lifetime

[@sonicheroxd5767]

Austin explained that he refused to job to Lesnar because it was on a throwaway Raw. He felt that it should've been built up for a PPV. Which I agree with Austin on that. Austin vs Lesnar could've easily been a PPV main event. The only reason why it was on a throwaway Raw was because Austin had tensions with creative and creative were not happy with him, so they did this to spite him. Austin wasn't having any of it, so he took his ball and went home.

[@nihilist2434]

@@sonicheroxd5767 I know all of that I'm just saying Lesnar sucks why should Austin job to him even looking back now he was only in the company a year and a half anyway so losing to Lesnar means nothing at this point

[@DXVI9]

I’m Pretty Sure We All Know What The #1 Most Shocking Match Outcome At Wrestlemania Will Be...

[@NoomEnihsDrop]

HIStory854 THE STREAK....is over

[@markmenning1804]

I did not think this was so bad but him being the leader of the wcw team was so dumb

[@TriplomatX]

Thinking back, if I were to book Austin after stunnering Vince for helping him beat Rock, I would book him the same way, but start to let him lose his luster, and he just starts to use every dirty trick to Mke sure he keeps his title. And for screwing Vince, Vince would book Austin in No DQ matches so Austin wouldn't DQ himself to keep the title. I would have Kurt Angle beat Austin had 9-11 happen as planned.......that's sad to think about that.

[@justablokepostingfunvids7137]

This is where 50% of my friends stopped watching some forever. I lasted till vengeance 2001 till 2004 I started again. Austin was my guy and here all through 2001 it was a downward trend of his use and wwe tv quality and enjoyment for a long time

[@jackcurran4438]

Had Austin not turned,and instead shook The Rock's hand, do you think fans would've booed cz they were booing Rock?

[@patrickfurtado4261]

What

[@SirJoelsuf1]

19:45 I disagree. I STILL do the What chants and I actually think they are the BEST thing in wrestling. Makes shows MUCH more tolerable for fans since the what chants gives them an excuse to interact and be part of the show. And if Solo thinks the what chants are bad, he should watch a few episodes of Showtime at the Apollo. And mid 90s ECW had MUCH worse chants. So yeah, I'm gonna be pro what chant forever.

[@mr.president3633]

I hated it I would have preferred the rock win clean and next night stone cold goes heel as a result of the loss and beats up the rock with Vince and triple h sooo bad that it forces the rock to vacate the title and he would have been able to do his movie thing and then you could have built to a 3rd match at mania. And in the mean time have triple h Feud with Austin over jealousy

[@SirJoelsuf1]

#1 should be Roman winning at Mania 32...jk jk lol

[@maaddhater2525]

WHAT!

[@jordanfrost25]

How is this not #1? I mean sure Taker losing at WM is shocking but it had to end at some point

[@thesegafan4472]

because that was worst in terms of where the business is now. wm 30 was worst because it was the sign of the things to come of where we are now. bray Wyatt's career complelty buried by cena and never recovered. cesero reaching his peak here and getting buried. the rise of a more fickle petulant fanbase that was booing batista at the time. {the loud minority over the silent majority or casual fans} and the death of not only the undertaker but the legacy and prestige of WrestleMania as a whole. iwasnever the same after that and bus

[@thesegafan4472]

the business gotten worse in terms of quality and it led to the rise of brock lesnarss part time championship reign of terror. and takers decline as a result[

[@jordan12118]

Please stop

[@jordanfrost25]

@@jordan12118 You talking to me or him

[@King4sshole89]

Number one: WWE Dies.

[@_BigTimer85]

What?

[@tandemcross]

Indeed... The "what" chant is one of the main reasons I stopped watching. Not the sole reason but it did play a major factor. Feel free to reply with WHAT!

[@shahmir7403]

!TAHW

[@tandemcross]

TY

[@deputydog3137]

The what! chant and the woo chant needs to stop both are over done now

[@timtate4105]

WHAT

[@thelegendarybigfoot6760]

What? 🤣