'It can be done!': David Goodhart on how to stop illegal immigration | SpectatorTV

This week Winston speaks to David Goodhart, author of The British Dream: Successes And Failures Of Post-War Immigration, which celebrates its 10 year anniversary this year. On the podcast they discuss the state of immigration in the UK. Is home secretary Suella Braverman right to suggest that immigration an existential threat to the West? Has multiculturalism failed?
// CHAPTERS
00:00 - Introduction
02:25 - Suella Braverman's speech: is immigration an existential threat to the West?
12:05 - Is enough being done on safe and legal routes?
17:52 - What we learnt from the Homes For Ukraine scheme.
26:55 - The barriers to integration and has multiculturalism failed?
39:17 - Racial violence in Leicester and can we enforce integration?
47:25 - Could the Rwanda scheme work?
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[@thewrightoknow]

This show was how to talk about illegal immigration, while doing nothing! Our culture is changing and the people who are are coming here have not come to embrace British culture but to impose and change our culture to accommodate them.

[@carolinejohn4537]

TOTALLY!

[@floydcodlin8447]

Sit down Enoch

[@thewrightoknow]

@@floydcodlin8447 hi, please help me understand your comment, I am curious. Thanks for posting.

[@billbillerton6122]

​@@floydcodlin8447Enoch was 100% right!

[@andylewis7360]

@@floydcodlin8447Shut up, Engels

[@christinerussell113]

The major problem with mass immigration is not just numbers, although they matter in relation to how many a nation can expect to comfortably accept before they start to affect the welfare and lifestyle of the poorest in our society, ie, those most affected by immigration. No, the main problem is that most of those arriving share neither our culture or our values. Further, they arrive with all their own religious and cultural baggage intact, and then seek to recreate that obviously failed society, which they abandoned, here in Britain. We in turn, seeking to accommodate them, often end up watering down or even abandoning our own values, those which our ancestors shed sweat, blood, and tears in order to achieve. The result is an increasing, and dangerous breakdown in social cohesion. Fact is most of said immigrants, although enjoying all the freedom and benefits on offer, are either unable or unwilling to intergrate fully into this country. Instead, viewing our country as merely providing them with a passport of convenience. Listening to this i hear yet another discussion on immigration which, yes mentions integration, but tip toes around just how much of a problem it actually is, or how disastrous multiculturalism has proved to be for Britain, and indeed Europe as a whole.

[@jonathansimmons5353]

80 years ago a previously unknown austrian painter, foresaw all this, but the british fought against it, and dismantled the safe space in Europe for its germanic tribes, if which the british were part of.

[@gravitaslost]

@@jonathansimmons5353Lol.

[@carolinejohn4537]

WELL SAID! I agree with every word!

[@americanwoman445]

This is the problem I find living in the United States.

[@memoryhero]

@jonathansimmons5353 ​- with luck, this will be the dumbest comment any of us read today.

[@RosalindHaskins]

He kept saying "more traditional cultures". Traditional for where? The mindblowingly appalling treatment of women and girls that is being imported to this country has no history here. Sure, English women have a long proud history of pushing for dignity and safety. But English men never had such sadistic attitudes towards women as the men moving here now do. Our traditions were never what their traditions are. We have profoundly different cultures.

[@memoryhero]

Shhhhh, it's euphemisms all the way down...

[@simoom58]

Great stereotyping! Check out how many women are murdered each week in the U.K. - and how much domestic and sexual abuse is prevalent in our own culture.

[@carolradovich7906]

Illegal immigration is a serious problem in the USA right now. Hopefully we will find a way to fight it. I have hope since Americans as a group are pugnacious.

[@jasminealixandranorth]

"The Strange Death of Europe" By Douglas Murray

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Is actually his Classical Liberalism and his NeoCon wars that created 37 million refugees.

[@Mark-jb1fj]

Wow. Is that the only book you know?

[@applegrovebard]

It's ironic that we are encouraged to give safe haven to people who suffer from discrimination because they are gay while at the same time the same people are encouraging a general influx of arrivals that has the effect of making the UK more homophobic year by year. The indigenous UK population is undoubtedly one of the least homophobic in the world. Migrants from Asia and Africa bring with them more religious/traditional cultures that tend to be much less gay-friendly. 50% of UK muslims believe that homosexuality should be illegal (which doesn't mean to say that the other half are enthusiastic about it)- and many of these have been in the UK for years, even their whole lives. A desire for a less homophobic UK is simply incompatible with current patterns of influx.

[@andylewis7360]

You mean lefties are hypocrites? Hardly “hold the front page” news

[@evolassunglasses4673]

From Ireland to Sweden the European is being demographically replaced.

[@bonariablackie4047]

Oh you know, like the Romans, the Saxons, the Normans, the Vikings, the Huguenots. Hate to break it to you lovey, but huge swathes of immigration to the UK and Europe have happened since the dawn of time. 20,000 legal refugees a year really is tiny in terms of immigration. And the demographics of the UK and EU is for elderly, retired populations and falling birth rates. Any idea who will do British jobs in the future lovey? Could you exercise your neuron occasionally?

[@realitychick4502]

@@bonariablackie4047oh lovey why don’t you drip with patronising contempt somewhere else? Previous ‘immigration’ bares no resemblance to what we are experiencing. What a ridiculous straw man lovey ..

[@christinerussell113]

​@bonariablackie4047 More garbage from you. Waffling on about the likes of Roman or Saxons moving to Britain is just ridiculous. The first had hardly any impact on the demographics of the nation, while the second, the Saxon influx, happened over 1500 years ago. If you knew our history then you would be aware that this nation, since the Norman invasion, has experienced relatively minor immigration, up until the 1990s. The numbers of say the Huguenots being less than 2 percent. The numbers started to increase from the 1950s onwards, with the 1990s, as part of Blairs deliberate plan, being the major turning point. Learn some facts sweetie, instead of spouting lefty, pro open borders, rubbish.

[@davidpryle3935]

@@bonariablackie4047That’s certainly an “interesting” way of describing the Vikings, immigrants.

[@dolmen6613]

@@bonariablackie4047 -20000 tiny?.. need to build a small town every year to house them... how may immigrants each year do you think the UK should take?.. last year it was 500k legal and 30k illegal

[@stephenlever419]

I am Jewish ,, thought I would get that out of the way ! My grandparents came to the uk from Russia at the turn of century ( watch “fiddler on the roof “ for the reasons . I grew up being instilled in me the concept that as Jews we had a responsibility to be loyal to this country and that this country owed us nothing , but we owed the country everything!! My community feel very scared about the amount of Muslims coming into this country and feel eventually we will have no future here ,, I personally feel religious Christians will also be unwelcome. I sincerely hope I am going to be wrong ,,, but I am so sad for this country 🇬🇧,,, I have traveled the world and feel that British people are the most kind and welcoming,,, But they have been cheated in the last 25 years by the woke establishment which is very strong in media and politics. Sadly the milk has been spilt , and is out of the bottle ,, 😢

[@vivienbedani6541]

My son in law’s family, also Jewish, have left the country for this reason. They lived in Yorkshire

[@carolinejohn4537]

​​@@vivienbedani6541 That is so tragic, that upsets me no end. The Jewish population are a blessing to any country I feel. Hard working, law abiding, community minded and practise your faith without insisting anyone/ anything else should change to accommodate it. Dreadful state of affairs when they feel unsafe in this country. The world has gone mad.

[@o00nemesis00o]

The figurative milk might be spilt, but we could at least pick the bottle up (be uncompromising in stopping the import of incompatible cultures and illegal entries) and wipe up the milk (adjust policy so that there is no cushy welfare state advantage for permanent tourists, enact standards that recognise foreign culture as less eligible for promotion, do that thing they have in Sweden where any crime or even gang affiliation is a matter for deportation). The only alternative is for it to get so much worse that it becomes all out civil war between leftists and islamists on one side (who are both plotting to mass-murder each other when the revolution comes), and whatever the right wing might coalesce around, and the worse the situation is, the more extreme is the principle that right-wingers are able to countenance. A good start would be to tell the ECHR to go to hell, and start to torpedo the boats rather than guide them to shore. A few dozen invaders die and then nobody dares try it. If the Nazis had all gone unarmed and in plain clothes across the channel, I suppose we would put them all up in hotels while they waited for the guns to be parachuted in... Trouble is, if the illegal immigrant problem were ever to be resolved, then people would go back to thinking about how insane the levels of legal immigration are... and the """"Conservative"""" Party can't abide that.

[@Jordan-em3eg]

can we start talking about the threat that these men pose to local women who are constantly targeted by them?

[@jasminealixandranorth]

"Prey" by Alan Hirshi Ali

[@Innoruuk]

Are you talking about British males? After all, they rape most women.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

It is irrefutable that it is now dangerous to say unflattering but true things about Islam, while living in the UK. That state of affairs does not enrich our nation. Having identified that this is a problem. Not one MP is talking about how we could reverse that situation. Not many MPs are even admitting that this is a problem. Indeed, our institutions are contributing to that problem.

[@carolinejohn4537]

WELL SAID YOU!👏

[@andylewis7360]

The English Constitution takes precedence over ANY international agreements. The Government CAN solve the immigration issue. It just needs the MOTIVATION

[@jamessmith1652]

A better pathway with quotas will never solve the problem. What happens when the quota is reached? Back to square one. The only solution is to reduce UK's attractiveness to illegal migrants. Segregated refugee camps, whether on-shore (or even off-shore). They can leave the country at any time.

[@billbillerton6122]

The solution is deportations.

[@jdg9999]

When there's too much rape do we say "we need to legalize rape"?

[@bonariablackie4047]

Just to clarify the difference between rape and legal refugees. Rape is illegal. All refugees are legal. Any questions from the dunce of the class?

[@fraserbailey6347]

That was more or less suggested by some Guardian types and a few German politicians following the events in Cologne s few years ago.

[@Innoruuk]

You need an education!

[@chrisburton9831]

Two chaps obviously very well educated saying absolutely nothing of any substance. What a load of waffle, probably why nothing has been done about it.

[@rocketpig1914]

Does seem to be a lack of getting to the point

[@lesliecunliffe4450]

What is missing from this discussion is what Victor Davis Hanson highlights as the key component of living in a democracy: the citizen. Without responsible and authentic citizenship democracies will fail.

[@andylewis7360]

Quite so. And exactly the reason we need to return to The Constitution. Govt has hoodwinked us into thinking we don’t have one or that it’s somehow obscelete

[@applegrovebard]

Two recent arrivals in Lampedusa when interviewed, said they were from Egypt and Nigeria. Which appear to be safe countries. Is there a problem with having a list of countries fairly deemed safe (which would include Albania) and to say no asylum claims of people from these countries will be considered? If someone says that their region of eg Nigeria isn't safe, can we not reasonably ask them to then move to a part of Nigeria which is safer?

[@carolinejohn4537]

Ah, there's the rub! What you speak of is common sense- I'm afraid THAT has been abandoned a long way back instead we have to prioritise FEELINGS, SYMPATHY and it would appear LUNACY !

[@Innoruuk]

Like you could have asked the Jews to move to a part of Nazi Germany "which is saver"?

[@Joe_1sr9]

David you forgot to say how to stop the rampant immigration! Multi racial integration hasn’t worked and is getting worse. The worst performing children at school as a whole are white working class kids. The housing crisis is appalling. A few years ago a friends son who had just graduated as a Doctor at St Thomas hospital had over nine hundred pregnant women from Nigeria in his first year give birth at the hospital then went home. Only thirty four of them made some sort of contribution to the hospital! We’ve been let down constantly by our politicians. England is now recognised as a poor country. When will we realise what needs to be done?

[@billbillerton6122]

What Western Europe needs to do is deport every single one. If you don't, your country is doomed.

[@jayjaydubful]

Thats interesting....does he know what kind of visas they were here on? You'd think this could be fairly easily solved by consideration of pregnancy in visa application

[@jdg9999]

Why do you need to pay other people to do your dirty work? Take them and escort them back to a French port. If the French say we have to take them and can't stop anyone claiming asylum, then we offer all British prisoners early release if they claim asylum in France and put them on boats.

[@bonariablackie4047]

So you will be helping to fill up all the Brexit staff shortages in all sectors of the economy, won't you? No? Didn't think so.

[@jonathansimmons5353]

​​@@bonariablackie4047pay shortages, not staff shortages, thats what it is. Thats why in Australia veg picking is paid 16.50 gbp per hr plus 8 % superannuation. Its similar price on the shelves , teens working checkout at maccas get 13 quid ph minimum and 8% superannuation. See? If in uk they paid correct pay, they would find ppl locally todo the job, not have to import cheap eastern labour.

[@dolmen6613]

@@bonariablackie4047 - they told us Brexit would lead to mass unemployment ..well that turned out to be true..and if the EU is such a paradise how come 30000 plus are leaving it each year to come to UK?

[@andylewis7360]

@@bonariablackie4047”the Brexit staff shortages” 😂😂 Nice one!! That’s funny!! Ohh! You’re serious?? 😮 PAAAAHAHAHAHA!!! 🤣🤣

[@jayjaydubful]

​@@TerryBell1968there are in certain sectors eg agriculture

[@fraserbailey6347]

As we have learned with the French, handing money to these counties is pointless. Only walls, fences, incarceration and, ultimately, violence will work.

[@rocketpig1914]

Gunboats.

[@rieslingplatz]

😂 This guy makes it all sound so simple! He's living on cloud 9... seriously.

[@simonjohnantony]

‘Luxury beliefs’

[@tinootnoot2725]

Tunisia , weaponized migration, this is not a new technique

[@brianbozo2447]

Rwanda to take 3% ? And the remaining 97%.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Heading for seaside towns.

[@LS-xs7sg]

Citizenship should be based on long ancestral connection to the land and its people.

[@disappointedenglishman98]

I had to tick this down. Only 58% of live births in England and Wales are "White British" and yet Goodhart wants a "safe and legal route" for Pakistanis to apply for asylum here. We aren't even near Pakistan - and we have taken far too many so far anyway. Why does Goodhart think we have to become a minority in our own country?

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Our politicians didn't even demonstrate the common sense of a mother when her child wants to invite two friends she knows don't get on, over to play. Never mind offering Refugee status to minority Muslims then inviting in immigrants of the very people who persecuted them. Indian Muslims said that they couldn't live in peace in the same country as Hindus. They split the country and went on to prove that they could not live in the same country, with the debauchery of violence that was Partition. Then our MPs didn't even have the common sense to pick one or the other but invited both groups to come and this time live in peace in the same country, honest.

[@allancrotch2953]

What number can we take in a year without putting undue strain on our poor overworked doctors teachers tax payers not to mention the housing stock being taken from our hard pressed graduates who may be stuck with mum and dad until they qualify for a home for the elderly

[@Neal_Schier]

Wife commented that Marshall still seems to be unable to afford new buttons for his shirt or, failing that, an old undershirt...

[@wiseonwords]

@Neal_Schier- Your wife seems somewhat unduly interested in Winston Marshall's attire, I'd say.

[@Neal_Schier]

@@wiseonwords It was a weak attempt at humour.... In my day however, at work I needed to dress appropriately.

[@rocketpig1914]

He should set a better example. It's not rock 'n roll any more.

[@nihilistlivesmatter5197]

Not impressed with this guest in the slightest

[@rocketpig1914]

Nice beard

[@CobinRain]

All the people crossing the channel in small boats are de facto residents of the EU. They have been admitted into the EU or once there, accepted by the EU. They have travelled freely across the EU using legal EU means, as Schengen. They have I am sure all been given some sort of French documents and one would hope they would have been photographed and recorded.( It would be un French not to). They are…all of them…the wards …or….in the care of The EU and France. We have the power to track every single boat that leaves France, we have the technology to intercepted them and we have the perfect right to deny them entry into British Waters.And if they need a tow, tow them back. Who says we can’t…? And what are they going to do about it? Britannia…it’s time to man up and get tough. Meantime a pr exercise in Calais in many languages needs to make clear that no applications even for asylum will be dealt with here.If anyone has a claim let them make it in the embassy in Paris. And without identification NO application will be considered there, either.

[@marionreynolds7080]

It’s a bout 50 years since I heard the expression ‘when in Rome’ coined.

[@Vent330]

Just had another argument with my husband 😂😂😂 he thinks we should have open borders and all illegal immigrants should be welcomed, allowed to work straight away and be provided with their own front door key immediately !!!! I don't 😂😂😂😂

[@mataform]

Divorce him😂

[@Vent330]

@@mataform tempting ! But better the devil you know 😏 😉 😤

[@gca259]

Braverman's speech might as well be a resignation letter. There's less than a year before the next GE to make a difference and all govt ministers who really want change end up re-shuffled/sacked/exposed as having possibly done something dodgy...

[@rocketpig1914]

Do you really think she'd go off and make a speech like that without it being carefully planned? If it wasn't carefully planned, she'd already be gone.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

As we celebrate the first PM who lost his Party Leadership election and goes on to negotiate a trade deal with the country his wife has stated on a legal document that she intends to return to and live in. Another second generation immigrant is busy renaming London streets. I would say hyper immigration has already greatly damaged British culture. Refugee is just another word for Immigrant if they are allowed to come to live in the UK. If caring for Refugees is your thing, then we get more bang for our buck if we help fund or run Refugee Camps in bordering safe nations. The criminals crossing our boarders illegally are just a smoke screen behind which lies that Boris massively weakened our immigration requirements. Inviting in everyone from Hong Kong only makes sense if your aim is just more immigration. Helping other countries to get richer only enables their people to be more able to come to our county. Our nation was bankrupted by the insanity of Covid 19 lock downs and we still do not yet run a balanced budget. We show no interest in the idea of paying that debt down. The reality is we are more indebted than most of the countries we are helping. While it is nice to help others, our nation owes nothing at all to any other nation and our politicians should be entirely engaged in improving the lives of the people in our nation.

[@carefulconsumer8682]

I am subscribing because I just listened to the brilliant speech Marshall gave at the Oxford Union.

[@timfronimos459]

Just found your channel after the Tucker Carlson interview. Liked and subscribed. Can't wait to dig into your channel.

[@FearlessP4P1]

Multiculturalism works, but only if there’s no group that can rival the founding stock. Of course, the mass immigration that the west is experiencing goes against that. The US is well past that, which explains the racial tension in the US. If there is a group that’s burgeoning then eventually a strongman will appear to curb the chaos.

[@claranordblom8968]

One observation: on community services same background.. same religion / and or ethnicity …is that the issues of privacy and individualism amongst the refugees themselves often obstructs the well wishing practice by the host country to pooling them in the similar background (often it goes both ways too) it doesn’t work!

[@claranordblom8968]

Another observation is about the difficulty of integration: It stems rather from what eventually sets as a deep psychological need to belong .. and to experience belonging to a society that is homogeneous and that totally reflects one’s community. I don’t know if that happens the way it is meant to be ;unless the person can identify with that community.

[@shanadoronn2054]

Great Interview!

[@marionreynolds7080]

Surely a transformation in employment security is the most effective solution for all ethnicities.

[@fraserbailey6347]

Funnily enough I recently came up with the concept of accapaella, in which people gather to sing and eat paella.

[@rocketpig1914]

Sounds fishy

[@clivel3966]

I'm certain David Goodhart is academically well educated, literate on the ‘higher’ value sets that have developed in that environment on the subject but I hear no practical reality, experience, validity to his current ‘solutions’. I am left with the perception of a man who is desperately holding on to the emotional rational of “I am a good man” to avoid handling / answering harder questions, such as: “if social / ethnic contention and divisiveness are a normal consequence of uncontrolled migration, is it not time to give the UK indigenous peoples, special, protective rights akin to ‘Canadian First Nation’ or Maori (New Zealand) rights?”. Interestingly David Goodhart does not deliniate ‘white’ any way. So, Anglo-Celtic, the largest ethnic grouping in the UK, doesn't appear to exist for him. The hardest reality is, you cannot save everybody and if you can't except and start from that basic premise, you (he) should have the integrity to not except the position of an ‘advisor’ to a government minister(s).

[@s.a.m.chalmers6579]

To stop illegitimate immigration you simply deny entry, same as what happens at Heathrow airport. People arriving in dinghies from France cannot possibly be legitimate. This discussion is simply waffle. And why should the taxpayer cover the cost?

[@jonathanbowen3640]

It's really not that simple.

[@igorsitnin2681]

Unless the british goverment is prepared to do what Australia did and stop the boats by force and send them back none of these nice schemes discussed here will work

[@basilrichards4205]

David Goodhart is evasive .....why cant he answer direct questions?

[@hannahmaebeaver9521]

TNT can solve any invading enemy. Problem over...

[@MossChopsMan]

Kiss goodbye to social services: housing, NHS, social security.....it's only limping around now. And if anyone here tries to remind me that there are a sh*tload of migrant Drs and Nurses in the UK, I say this...we wouldn't need those people if our numbers were lower. Immigrants will never pay enough taxes to fund their healthcare and the needs of their families.

[@Laverda981]

David states that "only a tiny minority of people want an all white Britain". I dispute this. I think most people are, or certainly were opposed to mass immigration. As Roy Hattersley wrote in a Guardian artile entitled 'Politics should be guided by principle, not populism', 'Should I, in 1964, have called for what a clear majority of my constituents, and most of the country, undoubtedly wanted - the repatriation of all Commonwealth immigrants?' No, Roy. Instead you betrayed the people who voted for you & oversaw their replacement, before retiring to rural Derbyshire on your fat, MP's pension to pat yourself on the back about how virtuous you are. Today Roy's former constituency is less than 5% white British. Our so called 'betters' betrayed the British people who never wanted or welcomed mass immigration. A 50 year war of constant propaganda & indoctrination has been waged against us to tell us we need this people, it is a lie!...

[@foxtrotjulietbravo5536]

I hope you aren't going to be arrested Winston.

[@JohnDoe-nb2np]

Turn the boats back round

[@jamessheedy8933]

A lot of imprecise, pontificating waffle about what can be done

[@bonariablackie4047]

Riddle me this, David Goodhart. When we were in the Dublin Agreement, we didn't have any small boats. Then we left the Dublin Agreement. And Lo! from 2019 onwards, the boats started coming. Do you think there might be connection between the two events? Bearing in mind that the Dublin Agreement allowed us to share out refugees across all EU countries and that all EU countries are still in the Dublin Agreement? Do you think it's possible that the UK, being as it is, unique in now not being able to share out refugees, has come to the attention of criminal smuggling gangs? Who are capitalising on the fact that refugees coming to the UK have to be accepted by the UK because the UK cannot move the refugeees to other countries? Do we think, David, that perhaps banning all known safe modes of transport might be in part responsible for the deaths in our waters of innocent people? Would providing safe routes take refugees out of the hands of criminal ganges and save lives, David? What we think, David?

[@jonathansimmons5353]

Australia fixed it. Copy/ paste. Its easy. Ps hardly anyone got sent back with the dublin agreement. in the 50 range.

[@christinerussell113]

Oh dear God, just another pathetic remainer referring to the Dublin agreement as the once solver of our illegal immigrant problem. Maybe check you facts first matey. According to migration watch figures, ( an organisation which has proved consistently correct on all matters concerning immigration) even while in the EU, the Dublin agreement proved almost useless to us. The numbers being accepted back was tiny, and reduced even further prior to the Referendum. In fact, we accepted more from Europe, specifically France, than we ever got rid of. And now, EU members themselves are increasingly recognising the utter failure of both your precious Dublin agreement, as well as the disaster of free movement itself. So cut the crap.

[@davidpryle3935]

Is Hungary in the Dublin agreement ?

[@dolmen6613]

Dublin agreement didn't work in practice as countries refused to take them back... EU having a lot of fun dealing with immigration at the minute , how's the Dublin agreement working now?

[@davidpryle3935]

@@dolmen6613 Of course. Its just the usual old remoaner nonsense of blaming everything on Brexit.

[@willfletch5871]

Put six cruise ships moored half a mile off Ascension Island each capable of accommodating 1000 people. Everyone that gets to Britain will be taken straight to Manston and then flown direct to Ascension and then to a nice comfortable cabin where they shall remain for a year whilst their asylum claim is processed. I estimate that after the sixth or seventh flight of 80 people each has taken place, the boats will stop. But there will still be capacity for additional four or five thousand should they think of having another go.

[@simoom58]

Good suggestions but no mention our responsibility in wrecking so many countries people are now understandably desperate to flee. Look what we did to Libya, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon in recent history - let alone how we impoverished our ex-colonies are after being fleeced. Of course we cannot take all those who want a better life but we must stop financing wars overseas and use the money to help people develop their own countries - ironically as both Russia and China seem to be doing.

[@billbillerton6122]

Your soft heartedness will be your nation's undoing.

[@s.a.m.chalmers6579]

Complete and utter horse feathers. This is why I don't subscribe to The Spectator. Socialist nonsense.

[@floydcodlin8447]

No surprise that this is the intellectualising of facisim from the Spectator

[@redfernpixelgnomepitcher1377]

Didn't Fergal Sharkey write a song about this guy?

[@Carrera-gp9od]

It was a lament, as he was hard to find ..