Has Claudine Gay wrecked Harvard? | SpectatorTV

[@MVK_GS]

Claudine Gay did not ruin Harvard. Harvard did that; she is the symptom of a decline that has been occurring for a long time.

[@moderneurope]

What decline are you talking about? Have you seen Harvard and its medical school? It has a 50 billion dollar endowment. It has more people with noble prizes walking through its hall than any country in the world. I am afraid for your mental state of being and your understanding of what the word decline means. It has never been richer or made greater medical breakthroughs in history. You are writing nonsense.

[@runnyhunny786]

Then she is the PINNACLE of that decline.

[@moderneurope]

@@runnyhunny786 Eh bien, si un jour tu as la chance de travailler avec un Américain d'origine haïtienne, aie le courage de lui dire cela en face. Et peut-être seras-tu surpris par sa réponse.

[@runnyhunny786]

@@moderneurope No speaka da french ! 🥖

[@nicolamorton5823]

Claudine Gay, resigning is not a victory for just the right as it has been pronounced by the left. It is rather a victory for America and the freedom it can represent for all people.

[@mister_bojangles]

I have a Ph.D. in Chemistry. Believe me; that was hard hard graft for four solid years followed by a searching and remorseless viva voce that ground on for over three hours. To think that this person has 'achieved' the same qualification through cheating and friends in high places boils my blood

[@merb.3576]

I have a PhD in German Literature and feel exactly the same. I also know someone who plagiarized in the dissertation, was discovered a year later, and got the PhD title (along with new job) summarily revoked…not at Harvard, though!

[@l.w.paradis2108]

You do know about Ackman's wife, correct?

[@merb.3576]

@@l.w.paradis2108 Good point! And no, I hadn't heard until your comment (and looked it up). So I should edit my previous comment to read "Anyone else not living the Lifestyles of the Rich, Famous, &/or Well-connected would have his/her title revoked." 😄

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@merb.3576 FULL AGREEMENT, no exceptions.

[@richardwait1206]

And rightly so don’t let this rest

[@Philiptanzer]

She is a symptom not the cause.. The whole structure that elevated her to President is the issue, not her temporary occupation of that slot.

[@JupiterThunder]

I wonder who will now fill her slot? 😲

[@veronikalevtova9506]

It is counterproductive to treat her as a victim of the system or a scapegoat. Ms Gay knew exactly what she did. She is laughing at us with her 900 000 $ salary as a Harvard teaching professor 😊

[@Coatsey007]

SPOT ON. The point being missed by most, is that these three academics all gave roughly the same answer. Threy had been advised by the universities, the people behind them also need to go. They are the puppets of the unseen. WHO ARE THEY?

[@stephenmcdonagh2795]

She's still a leper at the barbecue, she became the system through the system and still feeds from the system... and so ad infinitum, I guess.

[@babsofkansas9401]

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[@mark5846]

This is proof she was not there for her academic rigor. The search committee and Harvard Corporation board should also resign.

[@joef3423]

And thé hundreds of procfssors that signed a pétition to back her although that would end Harvard.

[@KJ-tj5jg]

“Just checking the DEI boxes”… checking boxes means you don’t have to be objective anymore.

[@robertfeinstein2175]

The hiring of Gay is a telling indicaton that Harvard has turned its back on merit.

[@iateyursandwiches]

How? What about the other prestigious institutions that have had academics in leadership that were also forced to resign for similar if not worst situations? This is not the first time this type of thin has happened but is the first time that leader was a POC... Im not saying shes doesn't need to resign, but the amount of stink being made about this particular situation is interesting.

[@andrewaarons5058]

I think the whole place is rotten at the top her friends tried to keep this known plagiarist and known self-confessed racist in a position of leadership

[@RPSartre01]

You mean when they locked out poor people, women and people of color it was all about merit? Dumb arse!

[@gandydancer9710]

@@iateyursandwiches "What about the other prestigious institutions...." Name one, so that we can compare. And I'll help you out here with your suggestion that the amount of stench is "interesting". No, it's straightforward: This issue with Gray is not so much, as you falsely imply, that she was with good reason forced to resign, but that she was appointed with such piss-poor reasons for THAT happening. What part of robertfeinstein's "The *HIRING* of Gay is a telling indication...." did you find so easy to skip over?

[@l.w.paradis2108]

After Harvard lost its lawsuit brought by Asian students, the truth about undergraduate admissions was laid out: over 40% of white students were admitted on other criteria than academic merit. Legacies, major donors, athletes, and "special development" are the reasons. An outstanding athlete or a gifted actor or musician has merit in my eyes, but those are not academic criteria.

[@sanders7789]

I think Harvard sponsors have a moral duty to withdraw funding until Gay is sacked and Harvard’s entire sewer is cleaned out

[@jamestheory9967]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@brianmeen2158]

Cleaning out the sewer ? You expect the higher ups to get rid of themselves? Same thing as politics - the corrupt elite of both parties aren’t going to replace themselves

[@moltderenou]

@@jamestheory9967Are you agreeing to that comment or are you finding it ridiculous ?

[@jamestheory9967]

@@moltderenou I find it utterly ridiculous and racist. It was such a foolish comment. I don’t agree with it. Look up bill ackman wife and her papers she wrote for her doctorate degree. She lifted many passages from various authors numerous times.

[@fyyt9593]

Agreed

[@FlexibleFlyer50]

Enough blame to go around on this one. 1. Harvard's faculty and board for hiring Gay. Her list of publications was nothing short of lackluster for a university president. 2. Harvard's commitment to DEI and not academic excellence. 3. Harvard's willingness to look the other way to protect Gay from critics and try to use the race and victim cards (overused by now across the US). 4. Gay herself has done huge harm to Harvard----first by plagiarizing and then by refusing to admit that she violated academic honesty codes of conduct. She has shown no remorse over what she did-----and I have a sneaking suspicion she will continue to plagiarize because she has a gaggle of willing defenders who have made her resignation about race and not about academic honesty. 5. Harvard has opened a huge Pandora's box of problems by retaining Gay in a $900,000 faculty position. What message does that send to students? to faculty? What message does that send about the relevance of Harvard's code of academic honesty? Will Harvard now have to accept plagiarism and cheating as acceptable since one of their own faculty members is a plagiarist? More questions will be forthcoming as the media and critics continue to examine Gay's publications and Harvard's actions.

[@pborgia1]

Well said from a retired university professor.

[@BS-vx8dg]

Excellent comments, Flexible.

[@Libertariun]

Excellent

[@moderneurope]

Add white racist like you to the list.

[@Bob-nd2mr]

$900,000 and caught cheating , if you want to see fair go to the circus, because it is usually the nearest thing to a fair

[@nickjw88]

She didn't wreck Harvard she exposed Harvard.

[@Coatsey007]

The point being missed by most, is that these three academics all gave roughly the same answer. Threy had been advised by the universities, the people behind them also need to go. They are the puppets of the unseen. WHO ARE THEY?

[@jmac3327]

There is a solution.

[@cosmaracorosu]

all boiler plate identical answers likely written by legal dept

[@theccpisaparasite8813]

​@@cosmaracorosunot a very good legal department. Frankly, there was a way out of that minefield and she couldn't find it. A lawyer could have gotten through that by a well worded 1st A discussion. She wasn't up to it, fired.

[@barbararice6650]

Janet of HR

[@Coatsey007]

@@barbararice6650 🤣👍🏾

[@DeeJay2715]

Her sheer arrogance in playing the race card when found guilty of plagiarism & blatant double standards on discrimination is both shocking & sadly predictable. She couldn't even bring herself to say the one word which would have given her an ounce of respect or credibility; 'Sorry'.

[@joelfildes5544]

The left never apologise,only double-down.

[@veronikalevtova9506]

Is she our future Congresswoman?

[@stephenmcdonagh2795]

It's like finding out the Pope has been to Epstein Island AND is the father of thirty children, hidden away making cheap batteries for expensive people in the catacombs of the Vatican.-- if the Vatican has catacombs...

[@thisguy4505]

It's the card that won her the job to begin with. The only card that she knows how to play.

[@JohnRedman-h3s]

Sorry should have been the only word! If it was to do with race, why was one of the white university presidents the first to go?

[@eggboldhead]

The whole Board should go, not just her and do not let her keep the President's salary.

[@MJ-cl1dm]

You are so worried about the salary. The salary was not fixed by her.

[@donaldfrierson743]

Interesting how Ackman's wife has been cited with plagiarism worse than Gay's yet Ackman is asking for grace for his wife. Hypocrite. And if Gay is accused of being a DEI hire, why isn't the same accusation being leveled at the two white women who also testified. Eveyone knows what the deal is here.

[@ruthbanon6049]

Unbelievable how a low-level mediocre racist person such as Gay would get the job and this kind of salary. Unbelivable. Shocking.

[@PonchoNugen]

I agree, no works no pay .

[@gandydancer9710]

@@MJ-cl1dm The $900,000 salary was absolutely "fixed" for her. How do YOU think it was arrived at?

[@Brookspirit]

Blame the people and the ideology that gave her the job.

[@veronikalevtova9506]

Let's not make a vctim out of MsGay. Many privileged people still have integrity and work hard for their degrees. But not MsGay. She is laughing at us. With her 50+ counts of plagiarism she has 900 000 $ salary as a Harvard teaching professor.

[@Coatsey007]

Spot on. The point being missed by most, is that these three academics all gave roughly the same answer. Threy had been advised by the universities, the people behind them also need to go. They are the puppets of the unseen. WHO ARE THEY?

[@brianmeen2158]

She is making $900k per year in a society or system that she claims is white supremacy - how does this make any sense?

[@brianmeen2158]

@@Coatsey007good question. I’m honestly quite confused as to who is at the top .. ?

[@wiseonwords]

@Brookspirit - There's plenty of blame to go around. Claudine Gay is thoroughly corrupt. She certainly didn't have to be enticed to be an academic fraud. She deserves to lose her job.

[@basswars7060]

My grandparents spent 3 years in a Soviet run gulag in Hungary. Everyday they did hard labour, and received a re-education telling them how bad Hungarian society was until they finally agreed. Their crime was that they were farmers. It's gratifying to know that Harvard now teaches the exact same curriculum the Soviets used.

[@cristiano7ronaldoTHEGOAT]

Universities and colleges are safe haven of communists.

[@djmbst]

Did your grandparents fight on Germany's side in WW2? Hungary was an Axis country, wasn't it?

[@cosmaracorosu]

@@djmbst soviets treated the same way their own farmers - russian, ukraininan, bellarussians, kazachs, armenian, all brotherly ppl

[@jamestheory9967]

What do you think blacks underwent in America as slaves? How dare this fool insinuate that black intellectuals are antisemite for exercising free speech?

[@Libertariun]

@@djmbstHe said that they were farmers and that was their “crime”. Why try to twist it to fit an agenda?

[@ceecee6679]

She is still on the payroll, $900,000 salary...DEI at it's finest.

[@brianmeen2158]

Yeah the white supremacist system Really is working well for her!

[@iateyursandwiches]

I love how the first thing people point out is diversity "Hire this and that without" stopping to think for 5 seconds about the that plenty of whites have been in similar fraudulent positions without it having to reflect on their entire group. Yet, when the person is black, suddenly, all of those in leadership positions are Rotten and undeserved. Fine, if that is how it has to be i have decided to assume that every white person I meet is racist until proven otherwise. Thanks.

[@cjk6736]

Now, that is a waste of money.

[@winstonscott4195]

Claudine Gay is no different from the last Winston Churchill, Douglas Hogg and host of other upper class mediocrities who got their positions and promotion because of having gone to the right schools, which in Claudine’s case was Philips Exeter Academy an elite boarding school the USA equivalent to Eton College, Westminster School and Charterhouse. Claudine then went on do her Bachelor’s degree at Stanford where she one s number of prizes.

[@el-Cu9432]

That's because she is tenured.

[@djlow2398]

She is by no means a lone actor. She is propped up by those who would overlook plagerism because of her skin color. The place is surely rotten.

[@QuadriviumNumbers]

Because of her gender.

[@Ntelec]

Twice in applying to doctoral programs, I was told I was the favored candidate, but edicts from the administration were that women were to fill these slots. I had a similar experience when applying for university positions. This occurred in the late 80s and early 90s. Had there been a superior or comparable female candidate, the choice would matter little to those particular schools, programs, and disciplines. But since the edict was to choose a female candidate/PhD, the selectors would go as far down the list as needed to find someone who fit the bill. The reward/punishment system was set up now not to select someone who could advance the reputation of a program or school, or to advance a field of study, but one that would change society. Thirty + years of that process created Claudine Gay. If one were to compare her academic or administrative accomplishments to the entirety of any major university faculty, she would be in the lower 5%. But if the selection criteria is to select a black woman, she fits the bill. One other comment, black candidates who would be qualified were not evaluated because they were not pushing a DEI/CRT agenda. In my academic and professional career, I have worked with countless formidable black professors and administrators, none of whom would ever play the victim card as did Gray. Any of them would have been a far better choice to lead Harvard than a dishonest researcher who does not understand that there is no context in which advocating genocide on campus is not violating Harvard's policies.

[@Chirimbolos88]

Well said!

[@QuadriviumNumbers]

Absolutely! People quickly lapse into trite anti-black commentary but there is clearly a greater process in operation. Women are the main beneficiaries of affirmative action policies by a large margin and white women top that list. White women have literally been placed into top positions previously held by men across the board for many years. This is what female entitlement looks like and the narrative is deftly and predictably circumventing this obvious reality. I'm not in any way justifying her plagiarism/academic fraud or indeed her shockingly irresponsible anti semitic views, but this is definitely a case of the current "girls on top" hegemony coming to roost. The #believeallwomen movement has been proven to be an absolute misnomer every day since its inception.

[@lavenderbee3611]

Claudine Gay has spent her life in all the best schools and universities, before Harvard she was a tenured professor at Stanford University. It's abhorrent that she has risen to the top so quickly considering the 50 incidences of plagiarism with 11 published papers and zero books written. Gay is not meeting the minimum requirement for such lofty positions. She is no longer president, but still tenured faculty at Harvard pulling down $900000 per year. I assume she will go back to teaching, which is hardly punishment for what she did.

[@MrMirville]

She will start a second career as a professional antisemitic writer and produce best-sellers you have to order from Afghanistan.

[@thealexanderbond]

"I assume she will go back to teaching, which is hardly punishment for what she did." Only for her students.

[@jeanettecampbell4211]

This is what affirmative action looks like. South Africa is the best example of such action where based on the colour of you skin and to tick box people are put in positions without the required due diligence.

[@iateyursandwiches]

​​@@jeanettecampbell4211aww and here comes the racism. We cant just advocate for her resignation because we beleive she plagerizes, we have to bring all black people and POC into this too and assumed they too are all plagerizing now/don't work hard. You're part of the reason why raslcism will never end. Because no one can be individuals to you unless they share your hue.

[@cjk6736]

​@@jeanettecampbell4211I understand that South Africa is a dung hill now.

[@briangarrett2427]

But she is useful in one way: she personifies everything that's wrong with contemporary academia.

[@brianmeen2158]

Yes and there is no way to fix it either

[@jasperhorace7147]

And proves that diversity hires don’t work either.

[@MJ-cl1dm]

When you talk and write always back it with evidence and proof. Else it will be construed as a falsehood.

[@briangarrett2427]

does the bleedin' obvious need evidence?@@MJ-cl1dm

[@maryvasilakakos7387]

Nailed it. 💖

[@conroc01]

50+ items of plagiarism so far. Gay is an academic fraud full stop. How did she get as far as she has?

[@veronikalevtova9506]

You had answered your own question 😊 Since 1970th the DEI policy and affirmative action have gradually corrupted and destroyed the Yvy League reputation. Those SAT bonuses when black candidates were automatically given 230 credits while the same amount was taken from Whites SAT scores !! 😊

[@Coatsey007]

The point being missed by most, is that these three academics all gave roughly the same answer. Threy had been advised by the universities, the people behind them also need to go. They are the puppets of the unseen. WHO ARE THEY?

[@veronikalevtova9506]

​@Coatsey007 Qatar and Emirates are generous Harvard donors😊 . Good place for Arab international students to get easy Woke degrees on weird and useless subjects.

[@Bae-w6u]

same way as Martin (Michael) luther King. and ....

[@jamestheory9967]

@@veronikalevtova9506racist people screaming antisemitism, antisemitism over and over. This is pathetic. Blacks have never had an issue with Jews. This type of rhetoric is new and dangerous.

[@marieannwalsh662]

In all fairness, Harvard has ruined itself. This didn't happen overnight.

[@Sutton-Hoo]

The fiasco certainly doesn't reflect well on the intellectual and moral integrity of Harvard's administrators.

[@MJ-cl1dm]

Yes the scales have fallen.

[@GQ2593]

It doesn't reflect well on academia in general. Affirmative Action and leftist race science is what catapulted this woman to the top. That system is still in place.

[@sikugord03]

Hopefully not for much longer. It’s gone as far as it can I think. @@GQ2593

[@ceecee6679]

Her doctorate should be rescinded.

[@Bae-w6u]

Martin (Michael) Luther King also got away with it, ,,,black seems to...

[@barbararice6650]

No she deserves a PhD in copy and paste 😐

[@moderneurope]

They should rescind your highest degree: passing kindergarten.

[@bigbarry8343]

that would set the precedent, so they are not going to do this. van der leyen would have to go next.

[@moderneurope]

@@Bae-w6u Are you making a list of all the black people you are going to hate upon.

[@nuqwestr]

Board chair Penny Priztker must take responsibility.

[@theccpisaparasite8813]

Who are the rest of them.

[@mikedesi5513]

Penny p should retire to Hyatt Regency and quit Harvard board because she hires woke liberals

[@lavenderbee3611]

That Priztker name keeps coming up when it comes to woke policies, especially when it comes to transgenderism. Who is this family?

[@nuqwestr]

@@lavenderbee3611 why ask here when it is so easy to wiki

[@Burgundy24]

​@@lavenderbee3611see Jennifer Bilek's articles.

[@Mitjitsu]

The fault lies with the people and system that gave her the role in the first place.

[@veronikalevtova9506]

Let's not make a victim out of Ms Gay. Many people are privileged by the system, but not everyone is a plagiarist and a bigot. So far, she still has 900 000 $ as a Harvard teaching professor.

[@Coatsey007]

True, I wrote the following: The point being missed by most, is that these three academics all gave roughly the same answer. Threy had been advised by the universities, the people behind them also need to go. They are the puppets of the unseen. WHO ARE THEY?

[@AvengerII]

@@Coatsey007 Just leave if you're going to post the same thing again and again! People can read your comment at their leisure. You DO NOT have to waste more bandwidth posting the same thing over and over again!

[@moderneurope]

Blame you for your stupidity.

[@Coatsey007]

@@AvengerII a fair point, I'd not realised I was posting in the same video, mainly due to KZbin's notifications not being easy to link with what.

[@reinhardbeck1482]

Racism? It all depends on the context.

[@Coatsey007]

Brilliant. 😂

[@theccpisaparasite8813]

Touché...🤺

[@geoffm9944]

Gay’s stonewalling replies, and her failure to condemn the strong anti semitic culture at Harvard, indicates she is comfortable to allow it to continue. I found her indifference quite shocking,

[@sifridbassoon]

I didn't

[@anthonymorris2276]

@@sifridbassoon The word was “shocking”. Surprising - no. Shocking -yes.

[@sciencegirl2239]

How was it antisemitic 🤔

[@anthonymorris2276]

@@sciencegirl2239 Most people would regard the call for genocide of the Jewish people and the total annihilation of the State of Israel as tending somewhat is the direction of antisemitism. But you are entitled to take a different view, even if that puts you in a “sciencegirl” minority of one.

[@sciencegirl2239]

@@anthonymorris2276 how are Harvard students calling for the genocide of jews

[@gregoryarnold1484]

Thank you for making us feel like the adults are returning to the room!

[@WildBillZim1]

Nice Samuel Johnson reference! ... "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels." In today's academia, "Racism is the last refuge of scoundrels."

[@Songbirdstress]

She said it's against the code if it becomes conduct, did she she mean it's OK until you start killing people? What is "conduct"? And how is your classmates calling to g Jews not personal if you're Jewish? This is like than what happened in 1938 in universities in Germany. Or I wonder if it was like this in Rwanda.

[@veronikalevtova9506]

Nobody really cares about scared Jewish students. But maybe USA authorities realised that if incitement of hate and violence against an ethnic minority is permitted and encouraged, then any OTHER ethnic minority might become next target. For example Palestinian anti-Jewish hate marches have swiftly evolved in public disturbance, Lincoln Memorial desecration and Christmas & New Year's Eve trashing in London UK and in NYC.

[@Libertariun]

Or Julius Malema in South Africa.. “not yet” calling for the slaughter of whites… not yet.

[@maryvasilakakos7387]

Her "answer" is typical PC ID woke bollocks where people have no idea what their utterances actually mean. ✅✅❣️

[@MilenaBlazanovic-oq2iy]

She gives me chills, she doesn't have empathy, pure narcissist

[@QuadriviumNumbers]

Feminism has created a plethora of narcissists.

[@dabliss101]

Harvard is a 50 billion dollar hedge fund. It isn't going anywhere. And Harvard will probably appoint someone as bad or worse to replace her. But Harvard alumni, as well as alumni from most American colleges and universities, should really reconsider giving them any money since most all of them are bad in terms of values.

[@anthonymorris2276]

The Massachusetts legislature needs to exercise its undoubted legislative authority to set a charter for ALL tertiary institutions with their principal campus based in Massachusetts. Step one should be a requirement that the chief administrators - the president and the governing council - must be chosen by a secret ballot of all members of the academic faculty, and approved by a secret ballot of all alumni.

[@maryvasilakakos7387]

I'm devastated to say I totally agree with your "hedge fund" comment. ✅✅❣️

[@jasonlucas2328]

Harvard should strip of her tenure and fire her. If not, every student should graduate with honors regardless. Moreover, the expelled students should file a class lawsuit against Harvard for losing lifetime earnings without a Harvard degree. The fired faculties and school personnel should also file lawsuits against Harvard and her for emotional and financial damages.

[@barryk1701]

If I was hiring and I saw Harvard as the school that the applicate gave, that persons resume would go directly into the trash can! Harvard's names as well as U Penn and MIT is now and forever soiled, no honor in going to any of these schools!

[@beammeup8458]

Harvard wrecked Harvard : it certainly did !!

[@Broonzied]

No, she's exposed Harvard.

[@edwardmccloskey7973]

I learned more from just being a high school graduate. Plagiarism was beaten into our minds as a way of cheating.

[@HMSindistinguishable]

Claudine Gay tells us she was fired because of racism. We should retort; "perhaps, but i suppose it depends on the context...'

[@Chirimbolos88]

Yes! You are right. Good explanation! 😅😅

[@UNCHART3DGAMING]

It took 2 centuries to build the reputation of one of the worlds most sought after university and a DEI appointee to irreparably taint the reputation in just 6 months-seems like that was the goal. Clean house starting with the board that hired but wouldn’t fire her. Ms Gay obtained tenure by committing fraud therefore she should be shown the door, not allowed to continue teaching; both she and Harvard deserve the lawsuits they are facing.

[@irenetanzman3976]

In 2022 a panel discussing autism awareness including information regarding treatments was canceled after backlash from Harvard students who supported the neurodiversity movement. This movement has been successful in canceling much needed treatment for individuals with profound and severe autism and has put a rubber stamp on warehousing and custodial care. Yes, Harvard has a problem beyond Claudine Gay.

[@andrewhirons398]

Listening to Peter Woods’ excellent analysis in this video of what and why teaching institutions are now failing in their primary purpose, should be made compulsory viewing for both new students and faculty members alike in USA, UK etc.

[@runnyhunny786]

What a huge embarrassment to BE the one that DESTROYS such an institution's very name....

[@dannyhughes4889]

She was only 'borrowing' the material until she got her Doctorate. In the meanwhile Harvard has created a number of new terminologies to reframe what she did, as calling what she did 'cheating' or such would be an attack on her person making her feel unsafe on Campus. It's all in the context !!!!!!!!!

[@G0rdonFr33man]

Harvard diploma holders should class sue them, since that diploma is a T paper now.

[@malcolmlakin5265]

She appears to be a symptom of a much deeper systemic malaise affecting the whole institution of Harvard. She is just a public manifestation of this malaise.

[@melstiller8561]

God forbid if anyone ever said anything along the lines of "the linching of blacks in America is only wrong depending on the context."

[@MrMirville]

There were lynchings of Blacks by Black crowds too, mostly under religious pretexts such as suspicion of sorcery.

[@sandarahcatmom9897]

I’ve been saying that too.

[@MarkHibbard-r3f]

EXACTLY ! The Woke Left - Reverse Racism is vicious hypocrisy !

[@Chirimbolos88]

Absolutely!

[@QuadriviumNumbers]

Poor conflation. An actual event that happened and a disgusting event suggested. Your comment is fuelled purely by emotion and hate so I cannot concur.

[@changemymind2021]

I hope donors withhold donations until she is no longer at Harvard.

[@ArtU4All]

What about the hundreds of others like her? Who are the 700 ppl advocating her presidency? It seems Harvard needs to to take a sabbatical for a few years to cleanse itself and find new faculty. I wonder how many deserving student applicants will divert to other institutions.

[@imikalfunangongo]

Claudine Gay advances a chilling vision of what human thought looks like when unencumbered by moral principle.

[@laurasands8322]

With me now that when I see a black person in a position of power I automatically think that they were given a leg up by DEI, and not on merit or their ability.

[@coco6168]

That’s unfortunate because there are qualified African Americans who are not CRT/DEI converts. Kenneth Chenault, former CEO of American Express, and Stanley O’Neal, former head of Merrill Lynch, each had successful runs at the helm of those institutions before DEI/CRT peaked.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

That's exactly why DEI ends up as harmful to the very people it claims to help.

[@Chirimbolos88]

I think exactly the same!! DEI is harming real merit.

[@Chirimbolos88]

When beyond doubt a black person is shown to be a liar, a cheater, or to have been involved in a crime, the first thing they do is to show the race card. Cloudiness Gay is a mediocre academic that got to that position in Harvard because she was black and had hidden well the fact that she was cheater who had plagiarised 50% of her thesis. And naturally when she was appointed as president she had the full support of the board full of cultural Marxists.

[@QuadriviumNumbers]

Women are the main beneficiaries of affirmative action policies by a large margin and white women top that list, look it up! White women have literally been placed into top positions (women on top) previously held by men across the board for many years. This is what affirmative action and female entitlement looks like. Your hatred and bigotry are clearly clouding your opinion. There are a great many outstanding black academics and indeed black people in positions of power.

[@nosferatu8293]

Thank you Spectator for posting this piece and it was refreshing to hear so much common sense and reassuring wisdom being spoken in such a calm manner. I particularly liked the part at 22.37 where you guest said that 'being called a Racist has lost so much of its emotional power because we know we're not racists...' . Let's hope 2024 is the year where common sense comes to the fore and the Race Card is firmly put back into the box marked 'to be shredded'.

[@jackominty3633]

Harvard was already fucked.

[@beauregardrippey5508]

Harvard wrecked Harvard.

[@jasperhorace7147]

How did Gay get away with the plagiarism in the first place? Were people to afraid of being accused of racism to bring it up at the time?

[@nickjung7394]

Her supervisors and assessors must be named and shamed!

[@BuffaloSoldier1965.]

Gay has received a partial comeuppance (as unfortunately she will retain her salary, benefits and academic "career") but until she is completely removed for her racist treatment of Roland Fryer (the black who had the "wrong positions" backed up by evidence) justice will not have been done kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2nbiIKioJiKf9k

[@sanders7789]

She received no ‘come uppance’ by Harvard or its sponsors. But the stain she has left will linger forever

[@nickjung7394]

What student could ever trust anything she says!

[@scatton61]

It was already wrecked... She is just an indication of by how much

[@thunkjunk]

From top to bottom.

[@veronikalevtova9506]

It started gradually in 1970th. Eventually it became impossible to resist DEI and affirmative action, hence the decline and destruction of Harvard.

[@sam-bd2ko]

Thank you to Peter Wood and Freddy Gray for an illuminating talk.

[@briangarrett2427]

Thank God this awful woman has gone. But which is worst: the fact that she was appointed in the first place or the fact that instead of leaving Harvard she goes back to a well-paid cushy chair in whatever "discipline" she is in.

[@ericeandco]

She’s not gone. She’s a professor at Harvard for $900,000/year. She probably also got a fat package for resigning the President position.

[@briangarrett2427]

@@ericeandco I know see my other comment. I meant she's gone from the presidency.

[@MJ-cl1dm]

WOW ! Passing opinions as facts !

[@briangarrett2427]

And no I'm passing opinions as opinions@@MJ-cl1dm

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Victimhood Studies ?? Her preferred - or " only " - specialist subject.

[@RkristinaTay]

Peter wood excellently clarified the issues. Thank you.

[@petercrossley1069]

At least in the US there is a strong push back. About time the UK government followed suit.

[@allenmoses110]

Yes, the Harvard brand now sucks!

[@tbyas4406]

If Gay is a perpetrator, what do you have to say about the faculty that reviewed and approved her thesis?

[@mikedelepine]

Thank you both for your concise and informative conversation about a complex topic.

[@silverc4s146]

Peter Wood sounds like a man of true courage, willing to speak the truth into the face of established power structures. Hopefully his actions will encourage others to stand with him against the oncoming wave of resistance to any change in the establishment .

[@narendra62]

More I learn about this saga the more I realise that this DEI cabal needs to be confronted and brought down.

[@QuadriviumNumbers]

Silly woman. 🤡

[@kerrycarter330]

Just a few institutions that I thought would never have “woke” agendas. In no particular order they are; the Military, the FBI, Aviation, Med Schools,Law enforcement, Private Corporations and Sports. I know I’m leaving out many.

[@chandrashivpuri1224]

This is the State of most of the Ivy League Universities in USA. They no longer reward meritocracy but are more interested in DEI, Racism,Woke/Cancel and the alphabet soup culture of sexual orientation. Gone are the days when graduating from these Universities meant excellence. No wonder that these Universities are no longer contributing in giving the Country CEO of major Companies.( Look at the list of CEO’s at the Top 10 Company’s on the Fortune 500 list) One attended an Ivy League school, eight were educated as undergraduates at public colleges,including 3 internationally.

[@ArtU4All]

Excellent for these individuals!!! And the Ivy Leagues can rest admiring their legacy alumni graduating from multiple rehabs

[@johanneskreisler7647]

I am impressed by this interview. Not everything is lost.

[@moltderenou]

Me too, very much so.

[@Shineon83]

Great guest. Extremely illuminating.

[@tommix6016]

They chose a person with a meagre body of work, in a field which has issues with academic rigour, with apparent racial animus and who has dubious ethics. Nothing there to get concerned about.

[@williamerdman4888]

Well said!

[@StephenKenny-hw7of]

Lethal combination of Marxist politics plus woke DEI double standards AND lower standards got her in AND out of Harvard. He’s right about the need for a push back & it’s not just from the right but also old school moderate liberals.

[@joanr3189]

This is the best conversation thus far.

[@RJPhotographics]

Clear sighted review. Thanks for putting that together.

[@chelseapoet3664]

Au contraire, Spectator readers and viewers are quite likely to have been following this story closely. We're one of the sharpest anti-woke audiences out there.

[@TipToe67]

Heather Mac Donald deserves endless thank you's. Her recent book was painful to read...but I'm ok. Also good to hear a lot of Black Conservatives speaking out. There is more than us then Folks realize. We are the ones that can end all of this madness. RFK 2024.

[@deal2live]

She got the first punch in when she decided on punishment for Roland Fryer! A black male economist. He was the wrong kind of black!

[@Olivia-io9sb]

So much to unpack, but Peter Wood does so clearly and unhysterically. Excellent discussion. 'My truth' can only be based upon 'unconscious bias'. we used to call it 'subjectivity'.

[@moltderenou]

Excellent. Thank you Spectator TV and especially Peter Wood.

[@RitaHutchins]

Of course she has, but the bucket has to stop on the ones who hired a mediocre professor because of race. If excellence is not a measure for Harvard anymore, Harvard is not an excellent university anymore.

[@thejils1669]

Harvard will never go away. It's in "The Good Ol' Boy" system which is impossible to shut down.

[@MrMirville]

When I hear "good ol boy" I think boy sexual abuse. That must stop.

[@fyyt9593]

She had a lot of help.

[@Anne-bn9uk]

What an eloquent and informative piece.

[@lawnmowerman716]

Cut off federally funded student loans to institutions that practice DEI or prohibit any institution with an endowment over x-billion from charging tuition.

[@MsJoybird1]

Gay’s response to October 7 such opened Pandora’s box regarding Gay! Gay opened herself up for future investigations!

[@ea42455]

Harvard is now existing only because of its past scholarship... and its $50 billion endowment. Students can get a more useful and applicable education at the local community college.

[@KingComputerSydney]

I was thinking of doing a Harvard course. I would be too embarrassed to do that now.

[@QuadriviumNumbers]

Oh well...there's always McDonalds.

[@eriksturdevant8589]

Harvard has been academically obsolete for years, imo.

[@anthonymorris2276]

Sadly, this is not entirely true. Harvard has enough credibility to have attracted and retained some of the greatest minds in the world amongst its academic staff. The first problem is that most of these minds are concentrated in either: ~ professional disciplines (such as medicine, engineering and law) where the practising profession demands minimum standards of academic rigour, or ~ the elite sciences (eg., physics, mathematics, biochemistry) where a person with Claudine Gay’s IQ could not hope to achieve a pass mark with all the DEI “helping hands” in the world, including a licence to commit plagiarism unchecked. The second (and related) problem is that these great minds are busy doing things that nobody else could possibly do. They therefore have no time to engage in the ass-licking and woke pretentiousness which is essential for advancement to the highest tiers of academic administration. And, even if they did have the time, most would find it both morally and personally repugnant.

[@eriksturdevant8589]

@@anthonymorris2276 👍

[@rep3e4]

Pretty low of her to not admit to the cheating ….. to play the victim when it clearly she is the wrong do-er here, shame on her

[@ArtU4All]

She put the seal on “Her Truth”.

[@paullavin6708]

SOP😂

[@jogo7204]

Did she literally call for genocide? They need to clear this up.

[@serene5986]

Nobody called for genocide, that was a hypothetical question.

[@WorldifySanity]

​@@serene5986She did.

[@spyglass1005]

Claudine gay through her own malfeasance has made it harder for every black student in America.

[@jamestheory9967]

How did she make it harder for every black student in America? Every reasonable black student in America knows that this is not about racism and and an attempt to stifled free speech on campus that doesn’t aligned with the Zionist agenda (not Jews but Zionist). Why didn’t you say the same about bill ackman wife who committed far worst plagiarism? Miss gay is a daughter of Haitian immigrants. Work her way up. As a black person in America, you don’t get a phd for free. Her story is one that most young black women can emulate. Go pluck yourself.

[@iateyursandwiches]

Why? It seems like it is your racism, prejudice, and refusal to see black people as individuals that is making it hard for every black student in America. But you know what, I'm sick of having this argument. If this is how it must be, I have no issue with assuming every white person see is racist until proven otherwise. Good day.

[@ArtU4All]

Not for one if that one has substance, talent, integrity. Just like for any other one, skin color irrelevant… You must the whole point about skin color. The woman is a weasel with a good English vocabulary. And likely speaks French(?) … what else?

[@beaupierrebondurant5651]

If academic success and excellence is a partisan issue, so be it.

[@chuckfinley3542]

Peter Wood is a voice of reason in higher ed.

[@Fefe559]

My nephew is supposed to be going there & I am trying to convince my sister & b inlaw to reconsider. I don’t want them to spend another penny on that place

[@acerrubrum5749]

Her parents were immigrants from Haiti. They meet while studying in NYC. Her father worked for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and her mother was a nurse. How they found the money for her to attend Phillips Exeter Academy, a private boarding school in Exeter, New Hampshire, DEI scholarships? The cost in 1985 $11,000, today $63,000.

[@marktrain9498]

Her father's reportedly a "Haitian cement company magnate" (i.e., international aid embezzler).

[@MrMirville]

Haitian black magic (masonic, not voodoo : voodoo is for peasants who want to be just luckier peasants).

[@lavenderbee3611]

America has really been a horrible experience for Gay and her family, racism has held them back. The whining is something to behold and needs to stop. What would Gay's life look like if her parents stayed in Haiti?

[@mikedesi5513]

Gay should go back to Haiti because Haiti needs more woke liberals

[@kerrycarter330]

@@lavenderbee3611No gratitude. None whatsoever.

[@jamesdallas1493]

Harvard Board views plagiarism as a virtue.

[@GH-oi2jf]

That would be giving her too much credit for having served such a short term. Harvard could easily recover from this, if they have the will. They need to do two things, at least: 1. hire a distinguished scholar/administrator as president. 2. adopt policies which support free speech but reject harassment and hate speech in a way which is neutral with regard to people of any color, ethnic backround, sex, or religion, either as speaker or as victim.

[@PatrioticAmericanVeteran]

Gay never learned her lesson. Others are using 'racism' as their talking points and are failing. If I were Harvard College, I'd sue her for slander thereby forcing her in a public venue to prove her 'racism' accusations against Harvard. Failure to do so will, of course, result in Gay paying a steep fine, possibly going to jail and most likely losing her teaching license. But, she opened that door with her written statement siting 'racism' as part of the reason for her dismissal. Time for accountability. Sue her, Harvard, and redeem yourself and set a precedence going forward for everyone else ever slandered via misuse of that word.#

[@Libertariun]

First thumbs up for the Spectacular for some time. Very comprehensive catalog of our mad new world.

[@duncangriffiths4399]

Harvard has ruined Harvard. She didn’t come out of nowhere.

[@heatherelia93]

Plenty of Community Colleges with more integrity than Harvard. Spend your tuition money wisely folks.

[@boguslawgajdeczko6207]

So ... how good was Harward's presidential selection process if Dr. Gay's apparent plagiarism was not discovered then? I do not hear anybody discussing this subject.

[@zerodivisionerror]

This interview is outstanding. Even though Peter Wood kind of looks like a villain from a James Bond movie, he nailed all the important stuff about what's been going down in academia. I've seen it myself while working at a big science publisher in the UK. If regular folks knew how two-faced, cowardly, and biased some of these people are who "produce science" they'd think twice before buying into all the odd ideas floating around.

[@iateyursandwiches]

I mean, you can say that about literally anything lol

[@lokmanmerican6889]

$900,000 a year?! She should have been sacked.