What If Palpatine Never Killed Darth Plagueis - Star Wars Explained

[@MM-vs2et]

"My friend, I'm sorry about your friend" - Friend

[@jamesstirling555]

"Would say"

[@gabrielandreozzi9557]

Have I ever told about darth plaguies the wise

[@Matt_6781]

Gabriel Andreozzi no

[@Matt_6781]

Chrysalis The Silkwen The negotiator, general kenobi

[@lildollarkingv2741]

🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@emperorpalpatine4681]

I always thought that me killing by getting him drunk was a little lame. The rest of the book is fantastic however.

[@Quagigitymire]

Without a doubt a less than epic death of the designer of the jedi demise. However, given how he killed his master, one could say it was appropriate.

[@jamescastleberry2562]

He killed him like that because he feared that if he faced him in a fight he would have lost. Sidious knew his master's strength in the Dark Side and had reason to fear. He also feared the knowledge that Plagueis withheld from him.

[@ilikebigbuttsandicannotden3753]

I love how no one dared liked your comment after 66 likes lmao

[@ilikebigbuttsandicannotden3753]

Okay who fucked it up?

[@crimsondynamo615]

Remember that even the Greek heroes would often fall because of such little vices that would seem stupid to us

[@chrisferguson9787]

what if lucas hadn't chickened out and the true PHANTOM MENACE was sith grand master jar jar?

[@supershenron9162]

ALL HAIL DARTH JAR JAR our 1 true sith lord!

[@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024]

-it's funny cause he actually was but- -most people don't know and think- -this a joke lol-

[@ottoettema9281]

Mekill

[@supershenron9162]

@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 right?? I mean the evidence is out there and I can't help but wonder what things would've been like should lucas have grown a set of nice big "eggs"

[@bluerook8558]

Could have been so much better, like imagine him being the one to teach Anakin.

[@kristopherawojobi5986]

What if Padme never died and raised Luke and Leia herself.

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa4956]

great idea

[@luciuscaeciliusiucundus1154]

Kristopher Awojobi I think he's already done that

[@brettgb1314]

then: Vader: "Far too easy" ;)

[@dreadguard4559]

Can't really do anything about it considering she "lost the will to live"

[@richardsherman3659]

wow darth plagueis looks damn scary

[@DommyXMommy]

What if anakin had used the pull out method?

[@forc3ofxf3ar51]

Angel Oneill lol

[@PappaPalps]

Angel Oneill the jedi found themselves above this technique.

[@narc440]

Pull out method doesn't always work dumbshit.

[@robertoavocado5478]

Angel Oneill LOL!! You would still get the original trilogy!!

[@supercharliegalaxy]

What if Anakin was Frodo?

[@friskjidjidoglu7415]

In a way…Anakin did save one of his loved ones from dying… He saved Luke.

[@marqueshernandez4757]

And Leia

[@S3verusMyG]

No just *LUKE*

[@reidsmith7430]

Bruh 😂

[@AverageBrethren]

@@reidsmith7430 certified

[@UnperfectFeeling]

I doubt Anakin would leave Obi-Wan behind. For the rest, this is a great story man.

[@obi-wankenobi7725]

He wouldn’t do that to me

[@Dino-Hrnic.]

Anakin would save obi-wan or die with him

[@levy9595]

He literally said "his fate will be the same as ours" in ROTS to palpatine. I cant imagine he wouldnt say the same to Plagueis

[@FingFantasticFox]

It might be a little bit different to the fact that Darth Sidious showed up

[@MrUshtush]

Traumatic Frost that’s a good point, when they were escaping the first time there wasn’t a second Sith Lord trying to stop them, having Palpatine in the way maybe would’ve made Anakin realize he would unfortunately have to leave Obi Wan behind

[@coletrain6545]

Sidious wasn't more powerful than plagueis. He even said so in the book that his power was so great and that he could never beat him straight up

[@noshgames7258]

Alex they were only "equal" due to the assassination attempt on his life that caused him to have a breathing device

[@stud6060]

Insidious Ninja plaquies not drunk could kill palpatine than while healing himself which I don’t think palpatine can do and if he can it’s only in legends

[@devinwalton408]

Apples to Oranges. Palpatine was a top 5 duelist. Easily. Plagueis was a very high level force user.

[@10xyourlife65]

@ he was truly more powerful he wouldn't have killed his master at the way he did the sith rule is the strongest sith should rule he knew he wasn't the strongest so he killed him in his sleep

[@YoungDen]

Exactly and if he was so confident why get him drunk. Hell, he (Sidious) couldn't even beat Mace Windu in a straight up duel..

[@colbystayton27]

Plaguies seems chill

[@WhyTho525]

He is a chill guy . Him and Dooku would've made great friends

[@WhyTho525]

@Jeffrey Scott Indeed they did . Imagine a timeline where Plagueis survived Sidious' attack and Plagueis trained Dooku, and later Anakin, as a Sith .

[@peolaksonen3440]

Ngl doe 😳

[@ottoettema9281]

He is and he has the high ground

[@WhyTho525]

@why hello there Yes he did . Plagueis in his public identity as Hego Damask, the Magister of Damask Holdings had a meeting with Qui-Gon Jinn, Sifo Dyas, Jocasta Nu and Dooku . At this point Dooku was still a Jedi but he already began to have his doubts about the Jedi and the Republic . Plagueis took advantage of this and told him and Sifo Dyas about Kamino, thus planting the seeds of Darkness in the 2 Jedi . Also Plagueis would've made Dooku as his apprentice if something happens to Palpatine.

[@PhinsBlazers]

What if Anakin refused to be a jedi and lived on to be a professional pod racer

[@DaltonUber]

He'd have made Zabula a lot of money before buying his freedom to become a moisture farmer with his new step dad and mom. But then the sand people would come and take him and his mother away where his anger and rage at once again being a slave, now to the sand people would over flow and his force sensitive potential would be unleashed, slaughtering the sand people with his pure hatred and force ability. In his force driven rage he would accidentally kill his mother, thus pushing him over the edge in to the darkness. He would become a rouge force user, feared by the Jedi and Sith for his pure force abilities fueled by rage. The jedi would dispatch Obiwan because of his past connection with Anakin, and Sidious would send Tyranus. They would confront Anakin and it would be a three way battle, but eventually the Jedi and Sith would team up out of necessity to defeat Anakin but they would be no match and Anakin killed them both. Sidious realizes the unharnessed potential of Anakin and personally goes to Tatooine and promise to teach him how to prevent his loved ones from dying ever again. Anakin joins the Sith becoming Darth Vader and leads the Separatists in crushing victories against the Republic. The Jedi are all but gone as they died to defend the Republic with out a clone army. Palatine doesn't construct the Clone Army because he has Anakin, and the Separatists quickly defeat the Republic. The Republic and Separatists form a peace treaty, but on the eve of the peace treaty Palpatine has Anakin kill the Separatist leaders. The Separatist movement falls apart without their leaders, and Palatine declares the Republic needs an army and forms the Empire and Imperial Army and Navy and appoints him self as Emperor. He publicly makes a show of thanking the Jedi order for their sacrifices in protecting the Republic during the war, but says the days of old are over and the Empire has no room for their ways. Anakin (Darth Vader) leads the final march on the Jedi Temple leading the Stormtroopers to victory. And the events of the original trilogy mostly play out the same except Darth Vader isn't in the suit, their is no Luke, Leigh, or Obiwan and the Rebellion still manages to destroy the first Death Star. There is no destruction of the second Death Star as I imagine Darth Vader leads the Stormtroopers in personally defending the shield generators, and the rebellion is all but destroyed.

[@spidermonkeynuts2374]

Dalton Uber how long did that take

[@DaltonUber]

SpiderMonkeyNuts About as long as it took me to eat my lunch

[@eho6380]

He would be picked by Palpatine.

[@jackattackanims8387]

Dalton Uber fantastic

[@minewarz]

What if Luke and Leia switched roles?Luke is raised by Bail Organa on Alderaan and Leia by Owen on Tatooine.

[@Chuckiele]

Thats a good one. So much would change.

[@DarkAngel40]

I'm not sure, but I think someone else has done this idea of Luke and Leia switching places. I can't remember how it ended, but I think it was a pretty bad ending for both of them.

[@silversurfer8818]

In reality - yes, but we all know that stupendous can only look towards one direction. He would undoubtedly twist the storyline so that Luke would end up with the exact same pathway as he did in the original story!

[@brettgb1314]

Love this idea.

[@danmenard6917]

It would be more or less the same as the original trilogy, except the roles would be reversed. Leia would defeat the Sith instead of Luke.

[@macauleyclifford4371]

What if padme was the dark lord

[@jayabdi4048]

@@charlesnewman5136 blood would splatter everywhere

[@kariwetherin7245]

@@charlesnewman5136 I'd be terrified

[@Diagonalstuff]

Macauley Clifford She would die of sadness

[@KevetteofArethria]

What if Jar Jar is a sith lord?

[@scrpr3961]

@@KevetteofArethria HE IS A SITH LORD !

[@hifive326]

Can you do: What if Palatine was never able to become Chancellor What if Yoda died at the hands of Count Dokku in Atack of the Clones and What if Asaj Centres was never ordered to be kill by Dokku?

[@hifive326]

*killed

[@devilsminus4743]

Okay no.1 it’s Attack And no.2 it’s Asaj Ventress Edit: And no.3 it’s Palpatine Edit 2: And no.4 It’s Dooku I had to do a few edits cos of this blokes bad spellings

[@nothinggoodtosay6271]

+Harry the gamer Playz *Asajj

[@nothinggoodtosay6271]

+Harry the gamer Playz HYPOCRITE

[@mythixthedragon6903]

HTGPZ is cool You have become the very thing you swore to destroy.

[@imnotbatman7566]

what if Obi Wan went to kill palatine and not anakin and Yoda went to take on anakin during revenge of the sith

[@kristopherawojobi5986]

Obi-Wan would have died. Dunno how it would have ended for Anakin. Probably would have been killed.

[@jacobdewling6576]

Im not Batman obi wan would have more than likely been cut down and yoda would've made sure Anakin didn't survive.

[@mannyh7883]

You stole my profile picture

[@killgriffinnow]

Obi Wan could have survived. He would be able to deflect Sidous' lightning with his saber and having all those senate pods could provide him with some advantages

[@richardsherman3659]

oh my god. just read that entire thing. how did you think of this??? This is great

[@Adam-yumyum]

When I see a star wars video with darth plagueis in the title I automatically go to click it

[@Bossasin]

lol same

[@adimpleo1003]

lol same

[@alieninthevideo441]

lol, likewise.

[@МихаилРыбаков-ф6б]

Because you like to hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise

[@mres812]

haha ditto

[@xxwales15xx33]

What if Darth Maul killed Obi Wan along with Qui Gon Jinn? I really hope you does this Stupendous Wave!

[@cbring458]

Or if Obi-Wan was killed instead

[@xxwales15xx33]

Cbring Plays Then the story wouldn't be to different then

[@JohnJoy8885]

No, Qui-gon was very much an anti-jedi in the sense that he believed in the balance of the force; not blindly following the light side blindly. I believe that Anakin wouldn't turn to dark side if he had qui-gonn to talk to about padme and his mom.

[@xxwales15xx33]

John Joy He wasn't very anti Jedi in that sense, he still attended many missions for the council and remained loyal, the most he did was wanting to train Anakin where the others would not. Anakin would of still been trained by the Jedi if Qui Gon took him on and the story I feel would similarly progress with his mother passing on, Palptine manipulating him as well. Stupendous Wave already did a video where Qui gon lived and his version wasn't much different to the actual story barring Dooku remaining to the light. If both died by Maul, perhaps he would of found and potentially taken on Anakin as a Sith apprentice and then overthrow Sidious in the future. Also with the Jedi losing two knowledgeable Jedi Knights and knowing the chosen one has been trained by the sith, the clone wars could be played differently with the Council prioritizing on finding Anakin, making it alot harder for Sidious to keep things in place. Or without Dooku being the puppet, he wouldn't be pulling the strings so order 66 could be delayed. I really don't know, changing this part of Star wars, there can be many different ways and opinions on this

[@stagnantgiant4235]

It would have been much different. Obi-Wan's relationship with Anakin was what kept Anakin stable for so long. Obi-Wan wasn't just a Master, but a friend, Qui-Gon was more of a teacher, and due to that would not have had as close a relationship with Anakin. Not only that, but if things had prodressed like normal, and we saw a fight between Anakin and Qui Gon on Mustafar, then Qui Gon would not have been able to defeat Anakin, and Anakin would not have suffered the damage he did when he lost to Obi-Wan, which means he would have been MUCH more powerful as Darth Vader, as he wouldn't have lost his legs and other arm, and he wouldn't have had to have the heavy vader suit. slowing him down. He would have become more powerful than Sidious and any Jedi (just as Sidious had predicted) and he would have overthrown Sidious to become Emperor Vader.

[@algordon5524]

Could you make a "what if Anakin Killed Palpatine" when he first confronted him in revenge of the sith!

[@Taboki507]

yes a respond 4 years later

[@requis6019]

@@Taboki507 hahahaha

[@samtheman4931]

🎉

[@davidisho13]

Really enjoy the "what if" scenarios. It really shows how much work you put into these! Keep it up!!

[@bronsolo6941]

what if mace windu killed Palpatine?

[@Quirrel]

jedi win

[@brandonridener9421]

What if Mace Windu killed Plageius

[@mariaflood5424]

No

[@mariaflood5424]

brandon ridener no

[@devinwalton408]

OG trilogy never happens. Kinda hard to enjoy the prequels knowing the future.

[@mr.arachnid4157]

I got some good "what ifs" if you are interested. What if Jango Fett survived? What if Dooku secretly put a protocol in the clones to kill Palpatine? (This next one is sort of the same premise as Dark Empire in a way). What if Count Dooku anticipated Sidious' betrayal and replacement of him, and transferred his consciousness into a younger cloned body of himself secretly upon his death. And what if Qui Gon's ghost spoke to Dooku? (These last two I credit to 212th Trooper). Basically during the Clone Wars the clones only made up two thirds of the Grand Army of the Republic, and the rest were recruits. After Order 66 was issued only the clones with behavior modifications complied. So only the recruited soldiers and most A.R.C. Troopers did not execute Order 66. Half of the 212th Battalion was made up of recruited soldiers and some of these soldiers actually assisted Obi-Wan in escaping. Many of the recruited soldiers and A.R.C. Troopers in the 212th defected going out to an unexplored part of the galaxy and setting up their own republic nick named "The 212th Republic". They would later be one of the main providers of weapons, and supplies to the Rebellion, and would start providing their own troops clad in white and orange armor to contribute after they felt confident the Rebellion could win. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ During the Old Republic era the Sith Empire is assaulting a Republic controlled military moon around Coruscant and test a new weapon on the moon. The weapon itself was ancient in nature, and the Sith did not fully understand it, they just knew it takes centuries to charge it, so they used it on the biggest military target in orbit to see what it did. The moon, everything on it, and anything in orbit around the moon just vanished in a bright flash. The Sith and remaining Republic forces assumed they were vaporized. They were not however... 3,650 thousand years later exactly the moon over Coruscant reappears, but what has been a few thousand years for the galaxy has only been seconds for those stationed on and around the moon. They would immediately be surrounded by Star Destroyers with their captain demanded to know who they are, and how they made a small world appear out of nowhere. Contact would be establish, but the Empire doesn't believe that they are old republic soldiers, rather believing it to be a trick. Realizing despite having an entire military base of a moon, they are just simply outmatched by the shear fire power of the Star Destroyers, and the shear numbers of TIE Fighters, and Imperial Marines. Taking who they can around half of the old Republic fleet manages to make it out, making a jump to a random system, but the old Republic fleet is going to find that the galaxy is now a very different place. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Feel free to use any of these. You don't even have to credit me for mine if you don't want to. 212th Trooper said it was fine as long as he was given credit for his.

[@grandadmiralpickleslee654]

Mr. Arachnid He did. he had a Code to Kill Palpatine or The Leader of The Republic in the Orders

[@jiitbang]

What if qui gon never died and farther maul escaped

[@jiitbang]

Darth*

[@JaxJordan35]

when are y'all going to upload part 2 of What If Obi Wan Joined Dooku???????

[@adamhasson1431]

we need it

[@JaxJordan35]

Ikr!

[@LamaswithHands]

YES

[@joelennon5761]

Jordan Gallaher exactly id rather that then this

[@cuberthebeast5916]

ya

[@stamatouvable]

Please make a part two.

[@stamatouvable]

Please please please

[@frenchmasterrace574]

Stop acting like a cancer

[@austinchicken1]

This was a beautifully crafted video. Thank you for creating this, I enjoyed it so much! :)

[@tropicalninja364]

what if anikin was promoted to the rank of master?

[@forc3ofxf3ar51]

Tropicalninja360 that's a good one! I personally think he would have been more wise and accepted padme future or not betray master windu and cut off his ark

[@willemboele2079]

is "the mighty ark" a fancy word for his dick?

[@HarleyAlderson]

how did i miss this one? this was badass

[@darthblacc4421]

Darth plagueis killed yoda's master nakata del gormo by throwing his lightsaber at him as del gormo got in the way to protect Yoda as he faught a young sideous plagueis's lightsaber went right threw his chest as Yoda screamed nooo sideous and his master fled

[@HeftyManlovesthesnow]

Wtf is this

[@benredman5835]

What if the rebels couldn't destroy the 1 death star

[@bryce3933]

yess

[@danni2746]

Ben Redman There was a comic about that, Basically the rebel alliance gets defeated, they trie to convert leia and succeed and then yoda takes over the death star and chrases it on corusont where palpatine is.

[@narc440]

"the 1 death star"

[@AyaneFukumi]

1 death star to rule them all

[@siriuslywastaken]

1 Death Star to find them.

[@padawanbenjaminfawkes2631]

please continue this what if. I'd like to know what you'd think would happen further.

[@WhyTho525]

I know I'm late but I think I can give you the answer . After Plagueis realizes that Sidious is Indeed dead, he would contact General Grievous and tell him to send the Separatist High Council to Mustafar, and when he's prepared, he should go to Mustafar too . After he gave out his orders to Grievous, the General, like in the movie, would tell that the loss of Dooku and Sidious is a major loss for the Separatists, Plagueis would assure him that soon he will have a new apprentice, one more younger and more powerful, referring to Anakin . After that Plagueis, under his public identity as Supreme Chancellor Hego Damask II, he would more often meet Anakin and have converstations with the young Jedi, Anakin would brag about the problems he has with the Jedi Council ( such as not granting him the rank of Jedi Master ) and his problems of the nightmares he had about Padme dying in child birth, Hego would comfort Anakin . Now in this timeline, since the Jedi wouldn't be as suspicious of Hego as they were at Palpatine because as in the video, they believe that Palpatine was the Sith Lord all along, and they wouldn't be suspicious of him, so in this timeline the Jedi Council won't send Anakin to spy on him, but instead Hego would often call Anakin for some meetings and other stuff, like at the Opera House . During the Opera, Damask would tell a tale of a legendary Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Plagueis who has the ability to create life and cheat death , Anakin would get even more suspicious, since as SW said in the video Sidious talked about his master on the Invisible Hand after Anakin kills Dooku in this timeline , and would tell this to Obi-wan, who would inform the Council about this . The Council be suspicious, but they won't act because they'll need more evidence of Damaks being a Sith Lord . Obi-wan would go to Utapau to deal with General Grievous . While this Damask and Anakin would get closer together, Anakin would look at Damask as his father figure . Damask would continue telling strange stories of the Sith Lord, Darth Plagueis, and stuff about midi-chlorian manipulations . After these Anakin would quickly realize that his father-figure is Darth Plagueis, and Sidious was just an apprentice, both Supreme Chancellors of the Republic were Sith Lords . After that Plagueis would tell Anakin that he created Anakin and with the very same knowlegde he can save Padme from death . Anakin would extremley torn : If he exposes Plagueis, he would kill his "father" and Padme will die but if he doesn't expose Plagueis to the Jedi, then his "father" and his wife have better chances of survival . After that Plagueis would tell Anakin to bring Padme before him, so Plagueis could preform a ritual to save her from cretain death . Anakin does as Plagueis told him to do, Padme refuses his help . Padme would tell the Jedi Council about Plagueis, after that Windu, Kit Fisto and 2 other Jedi would try to arrest Plagueis . Plagueis kills them like if they were nothing . Anakin would have no choice but to become Plagueis' apprentice, Plagueis would call Anakin as Darth Vader . After that Plagueis would send clones to take Padme to his secret lair on Coruscant, meanwhile Plagueis would send Vader to the Jedi Temple and kill every single Jedi . Plagueis orders the clones to execute Order 66 . After that Plagueis sends Vader to Mustafar to kill off the Separatist leaders but before that Plagueis tells the Separatist leaders that his new apprentice would take care of them . When Yoda and Obi-wan return to Coruscant they free Padme, and Padme would inform them of the events that occured on Coruscant . Plagueis would reorganize the Republic into the Empire . Obi-wan, Padme, C3PO and R2-D2 would go to Mustafar to try to return Anakin to Light Side, while Yoda goes to deal with Plagueis . Yoda would fail to kill the Dark Lord, meanwhile Obi-wan and Vader have their duel on Mustafar, of course Padme dies in child birth and Anakin would loose to Obi-wan . The twins would be separated, Luke goes to Tatooine, while Leia goes to Alderaan . Yoda would go to exile on Dagobah . Organa would slowly form the Rebellion . Plagueis would use the midi-chlorians to heal Vader's injuries and Vader won't be a cyborg . Now the galaxy is under the the control of the Sith who achieved immortality and the most powerful Sith . I think in this timeline the Rebellion would be screwed because in this timeline Plagueis did achieve immortality ( because when Sidious killed him in the original timeline, Plagueis was at his closest to achieve it, so if Sidious doesn't kill Plagueis, Plagueis would be immortal ) and likley would give his knowlegde to Vader, so if they can't kill the Emperor, they can't end the Empire . Also, maybe in this timeline Plagueis would slowly would rebuild the Ancient Sith Empire under his image, and would become a god, since he's immortal now . Plagueis' Empire : I think Plagueis' Empire wouldn't be xenophobic, but those worlds and races ( mainly the Umbarans and the Geonosians ) who joined the Separatists throughout the Clone Wars would pay for their crimes, through slavery and taxes . Plagueis would send Vader to various planets to collect Force Sensitive individuals and he and Plagueis would train them as Sith Warriors and Inquisitors , since Plagueis planned to drop the Rule of Two . The Empire would incorporate aliens and non-human races too . Now I think there would be a Death Star since Sidious did wanted a super-weapon to crush any rebellion that would try to challange his regime, so Plagueis would definitley build a Death Star and would definitley would use it, but maybe he would listen to Thrawn and he won't do it .

[@lando8913]

Nice work! This is really well done. It really shows not only your vast knowledge of all things star wars but also a great understanding of these different characters and what makes them tick. Seriously, great job!

[@KraNisOG]

what if Obi-Wan went to take on sidious and Yoda to take on anikan

[@teamsteamgamers7274]

in normal version only mace windu stay alive so if we think only mace windu and obi-wan kenobi left to stop palpatine anakin and palpatine attack them and if palpatine win anakin will not wear armor and would be much stronger cause his armor make him so much slower and unpowerful so he can kill luke so empiree would win

[@Kyyp3r]

Sidious kills obivan, Yoda kills Anakin and takes Luke to tatooine. Sidious then looks for a new apprantice

[@theduskmonarch6207]

+TeamSteam Gamers That is not quite thought out. Yes his armor makes him slower, but with the weakness that comes with the armor Vader had to become more sensitive with the force and in lightsaber combat. Anakin was very powerfull and he would have been far stronger than Vader with the suit. But comparing those two is like comparing a hammer and a scalpell. Where Anakin was strong, Vader is precise and he uses his power far more efficient than Anakin. For example Anakin might have been able to crush a large object, where Vader would have used far less power on the weakspot to destroy this object. Same result different ways. Vader is just more efficient and creative in the use of the force.

[@bygbyt8546]

Kyyp3r I disagree yoda would have been destroyed he would not use cunning to stop anakin only the force and anakin would be way more pissed at seeing yoda then his old friend obi wan and become far more enraged embracing a fuller power of the dark side and yoda although a master of the force would be somewhat conflicted and being used to cooped up inside his temple would not be able to handle all the dark side energy from the mustafar planet unlike obi wan who has more experience in the field of course palpatine would have killed obi wan no argument there

[@RushXFPS]

Byg Byt Not necessarily, actually. Palpatine is a good duelist, but not as good as Obi.

[@TheSithLord20]

What if Darth Plagueis was killed by Darth Venomous; like if Stupendous Wave should do a video on this

[@TheSithLord20]

It doesn't matter, because he was better at lightsaber combat and almost equal with the force so technically speaking Venomous would have won

[@harpe9415]

His name is "Tenebrous"

[@TheSithLord20]

No I'm talking about the secret apprentice of Tenebrous, you need to read or listen to the book

[@harpe9415]

Jackson Leon Oh, right I forgot about him.

[@jedimaster8103]

Part 2!

[@terrymeyer5507]

You should make a part 2 for this video. I definitely feel like things would be different with Palatine plotting to take out anikin and the Chancellor

[@hifive326]

What if Grand Admiral Thrawn was in the Original Trilogy?

[@ajjdarklord]

Hifive429 he would have been killed as he was before by Vader

[@RageTeam2014]

ajjdarklord Not really , no.

[@falafelranger9393]

Rip rebellion then

[@aztech413]

Hifive326 g

[@erikagehm2805]

Thrawn would be amazing however the rebels would be dead in one maybe two minutes.

[@ForgottenHonor0]

I know this is kinda out there, but what if Anakin, while still a Padawan, had encountered the spirit of Revan? What kind of impact might this have on his life and the future of the galaxy?

[@juri5624]

Nick Craig how does one randomly encounter Revan's spirit?! I guess someone played SWTOR for a bit too long.

[@charltonallen7646]

Dank Memes guess someone doesn't know their Star Wars. Revam is in kotor much MUCH more than in swtor get it right.

[@stagnantgiant4235]

+ScrollKeeper What does that have to do with anything? Yeah, revan is in KotOR more than TOR, but he said SPIRIT of Revan. Did Revan appear as a spirit in KotOR? Oh, he didn't? Okay, then.

[@savvassavvides2585]

This would be a more interesting plot than the actual movie honestly

[@Jona]

Yessss u made a video about my question :))))

[@Jona]

Thank you

[@cornn9037]

thank you so much for using my video suggestion.

[@cornn9037]

Will there be a part 2 of this?

[@yourgrandmasjzexboyfriend]

Manoah mhmm

[@davidemascolo936]

I don't know EU material about Plagueis but I like the characterization of him as a even more capable than Palpatine of building a sympathetic, charming facade to hide his true nature as a Sith. I also love the ending: his victory seemingly complete, Plagueis doesn't however know whether Palpatine is really dead or not, so he'll always have to live with the fear of him coming back for revenge.

[@wishbone346]

This makes it sound like Plagueis was less evil than Palpatine overall. Would this be a fair assessment, or am I just interpreting it wrong?

[@dantefiore8442]

i feel he was more cunning and less power hungry than palps was... idk tho I know barely anything about him

[@wishbone346]

Dante Fiore Yeah, I know absolutely nothing, but based on this what if story he sounded far less power hungry, and he seemed to actually care about some people rather than seeing everyone as a pawn the way Palpatine did.

[@nerdsforever4852]

plaguis was kind of like a Nazi he believed in racial hierarchy but he was more of a scientist and philosopher than solder

[@ajjdarklord]

wishbone346 I agree Plagueis was more of a political genius and Palpatine took it from him while Plagueus was was obsessed with keeping himself alive through the force by manipulating the midi chlorians

[@Amadeus8484]

More pragmatically evil or perhaps less arrogant. But he was a Sith Lord, he's evil enough.

[@HoHhoch]

The only thing about Plagueis thinking he would be beaten in one on one combat with Sideous, is that Sideous feared Plagueis and his immense strength in the force. I actually just got done reading the book again and when Sideous had begun to shock Plagueis and Plagueis started to fight back, Sideous was absolutely terrified of him and his abilities and feared he had made a fatal mistake until he noticed his master's powers starting to slip from. Well. The fact he was dying.

[@Nick-ok9om]

What if Yoda had defeated Dooku in Attack of the Clones

[@CesarFelipeLopez]

This needs a part 2.

[@DoubleBourbonBaconCheeseBurger]

What if Rae was captured by the modern Jabba the Hutt, and was forced to be 'Slave Rae'

[@theprimestskeletron676]

Feminists would freak out

[@Soundwave1882]

James Drelling you mean Rey?

[@Jacknthebox2011]

Good porn i guess

[@zombiedude347]

Imagine if FN was captured by the modern Jabba.

[@fionafornarina]

Lol! She would tell Jabba: "I am Grand Admiral Rae Sloane. I am not some girlish assistant for you to paw or comfort or cajole. Touch me again, and I will have the offending limb removed, and all the nerves of the stump obliterated so that no robotic hand will ever respond to your commands!"

[@kevinhansen8211]

Great what if! I could definitely see Sidious fully taking the reins of the Separatists after this, and the Clone Wars going from a ruse and becoming a full on Sith Civil War.

[@FlurryMainchin]

yeh feels a lot more like the beginning of a fanfic rather than the end

[@TheHeroicJunior]

What if Jengo Fett somehow managed to kill Mace Windu in the arena on Geonosis? Which jedi would Anikin end up informing that the chancellor was sidious? Would Yoda take Windu's place in the confrontation and some other jedi be on kashyyyk? Or what if Mace Windu went after Dooku in episode 2 instead of obi wan and anikin?

[@Celtic-Firebird]

I personally think Cin Drahllig (idk the spelling on the surname) would take Windu's place as Cin was the battle master of the order and a powerful fighting force. I think that Drahllig would go to Kashykk and Yoda stay behind on Coruscant so Yoda would be told by Anakin

[@RoBbIeOrR1998]

Can you do “what if obi wan joined count dooku in the attack of the clones”

[@Darkdealer651]

I don't think Palpatine would be afraid of killing his master; instead, he would most likely be stopped by the thought that Plagueis was actually keeping secret abilities from him. Also, I think Anakin would've grabbed Obi-Wan just before Palpatine showed up. That being said, I think I can see where it could go from here after the events of this video: Plagueis meets Anakin at the opera (like Palpatine did) and tells him the story of a Sith lord who could cheat death. When Anakin asks what happened to him, the answer would be how the Sith lord's apprentice betrayed him by violating the rule of two, which caused the Sith lord to go into hiding. The video from Star Wars Theory on what if Plagueis killed Palpatine would fill the rest of the gaps, with Plagueis blaming Palpatine for what happened in the Clone Wars. The only exception is that the Sith would soon fall into Civil War, with Plagueis and Vader leading one side and Palpatine (who survived) and (most likely) Maul on leading the other, with the Rebel Alliance and remaining Jedi (Obi-Wan, Yoda, Ahsoka, etc.) caught in the middle.

[@Frostbittay]

I could see a scenario like happen.

[@realtalkrealthingsent.8024]

What if The Force Unleashed is cannon

[@teamsteamgamers7274]

lol

[@christianmandigo5108]

star wars would be shit

[@involuntaryanalysis]

It doesn't need to be, personally, I like the idea of Galen being an unconfirmed story, that actually DID happen, just with no way to confirm it. It fits with the secrecy that would've surrounded Vader's secret apprentice. As stated by Ahsoka; "there's always a bit of truth in legends."

[@matthewskullblood9778]

and how the rebels adopted the symbol

[@SamuraiZero]

Karter Martinez it isn't possible

[@bone_zoner]

Disney needs to hire you to write all of their story plots

[@bone_zoner]

Take notes Mickey

[@bakasan0000]

This was one of the best of the "What If?" series I've ever seen on all the channels. Very well thought out, which is extremely difficult to do with such a devoted fan base and such intelligent, capable characters.

[@Babyboss65]

I have quite a few ideas: 1. What if Yoda killed Sidious in Ep. III? 2. What if Sidious killed Yoda in Ep. III? 3. What if Han didn't come back to help Luke destroying the death star in Ep. IV? 4. What if Han didn't drop Jabba's freight? 5. What if Han didn't survive being frozen in carbonite? 6. What if Jar Jar didn't give the emergency power to Palpatine? 7. What if Lando didn't cooperate with the empire? 8. What if Luke didn't jump out from the pit fast enough and got frozen in carbonite in Ep. V? 9. What if Luke was raised by Bail and Leia was raised by Owen and Beru? 10. What if the death star flew to Dantoine and blew it up instead of blowing up Alderaan?

[@MegaParrotMan]

The answer to all is there wouldn't be any star wars films.

[@TWD-qu9hn]

What if all the death stars never blow up

[@RetreadForce]

That's not all that would happen, that's only the beginning since you're talking about one of the most powerful Sith lords to ever live. Here's what else would happen. Plagueis is far smarter and wiser about the use of the force. Plagueis would egg Anakin on, he would tell him this. Plagueis: "Ahh my friend, there is one thing it all boils down to. In this galaxy, it boils down to the numbers. I can foresee your *destiny* and your desires...the Jedi grow weak and arrogant. They are needed to showcase your power." Anakin: "I do not like those Jedi masters. But what do you mean, master Plagueis.." Plagueis: "What I mean is everything contains a chance. A ying and a yang. Your friend Mace Windu, he thinks he's wise. But I know his true ambitions...I know where his mark will strike true." Anakin: "And how do you propose such a plot, that we might control Windu's future?" Plagueis: "You already know, since it was I who saved Padme's future. Mace will trust Ahsoka Tano, he will never see it coming. The Banking Clan for thousands of years have controlled his destiny. In his desire to save Ahsoka, he will do my bidding." Anakin: ".....And then?" Plagueis: "And then you will bring him before me. Mace will become our new Sith marauder. He, being wiser than Dooku knows his destiny is already here. A roll of the dice always lands the same way, both sides land right side up." Plagueis: "Ahsoka will know the only way she can help Mace, is through unlocking those accounts on Spekkio. Just as my old master thought he taught me, I will teach Mace what it means to restore order. Grevious is my pawn." Anakin: "You plan to....kill him?" Plagueis: "His destiny already strikes true, young Jedi...The illusions he sees of a Supreme Leader rising and the new First Order in the Galaxy's future. These are all tame visions and delusions, brought about by what I have foreseen. They are my creation." ^^Plagueis is the only Sith who has ever known how to create force illusions...Illusions so real they can fool an entire planet, city or fleet with ease. Deceiving Mace Windu into believing Ahsoka was in danger and preying on his sentiments for her is easy. Anakin: "There is a Supreme Leader to come?" Plagueis: "Of course, YOUNG SKYWALKER. For fortune only favors the bold. The Supreme Leader is wise..and all of his admirals are but pawns in his greatest scheme. The tomb of Naga Shadow will soon be mine to control and the ring as well." Anakin: "....And what of Dooku?" Plagueis: "I'll make him believe his brother is in danger.(Smirk) And it's all the foolish Master Jedi's fault...." We would see Plagueis rise into high command, with illusions fooling the Jedi into killing each other. Damask holdings buying out Palpatine's old shrine and burning it to the ground to find Naga Shadow's artifacts.There would be a statue in the Chancellor's office embossed with the seal of a "SNAKE LIKE FISH." And as many fans speculate, we would see Plagueis rise as Supreme Leader Snoke in Episode 7 The Force Awakens using their original script. It would be quite a show, given Plagueis is able to create illusions to fool everyone.

[@jokernharley666]

wow, i love this what if. I got one, what if Count Dooku killed Anikin, Obi, and Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith

[@cautiousletsplays]

These are so thorough and well-thought-out. Thanks for uploading.

[@Aziraal-Starhammer]

Have you done a "What if" related to Anakin never meeting/falling in love with Padme?

[@zxKAOS1]

Pelagius died because he got drunk? That's a let down... I always pictured it as some grand battle that Palpatine came out on top of.

[@pranavvaldez2010]

What if luke and leia never discovered they were siblings and han solo died in the battle of endor

[@GreenFantom]

Then Kylo Ren would come out with 1 eye, a nose on his thigh, and balls on his forehead. He would also be autistic.

[@tylerjaynes822]

It takes many generations of inbreeding for any birth defects to arise in offspring, and even then it would be diseases mostly

[@hallongview]

The theory of asymmetry

[@willemboele2079]

han-diecap-ped babyyyyyyyyys

[@KAXGaming]

Their offspring would be the greatest Force User in history. Wincest.

[@jessejohnson8031]

No lie, the moment sheev began to get jealous of anakin, i went and made popcorn for this story. like damn. You are my fav star wars channel

[@animecrunchtime]

R u going to make a part 2 to this? Cuz this story is great

[@jasonphilip1198]

Have you ever thought of writing a novel? I think you'd be good at it.

[@danielk3177]

what if the Jedi refused to participate in the clone wars? @stupendouswave

[@aflacg]

Daniel L im gonna repost this man!

[@saltyswede7875]

pls make a video about sith alchemy or sith magic pls pls

[@scarlettwestfall3060]

yessssss that is a good idea

[@bman1402]

Henrik Löfberg Pom. B ok obojo HBO ok ok n ph I

[@cuberthebeast5916]

ya

[@jwalden91lx]

Something with Darth Zannah.

[@ajjdarklord]

Henrik Löfberg like Darth Bane and his thought (force bomb) which he manipulated all the Lords to do this to destroy the Jedi that were attacking while he escaped out of the blast range destroying everyone making the Jedi believe all sith were destroyed it sent himself and he found Darth Zannah who he knew was powerful force and took her as his apprentice beginning the rule of two

[@wulfgar6749]

Please do what if A'Sharad Hett completed his Sith training before The Battle of Endor.

[@ika1416]

The Infomaniac good call

[@ajjdarklord]

Ben Thewlis Hego

[@ajjdarklord]

Ben Thewlis he was Banking Clan member of that species that can be seen in Ep. II In the separatists counselor meeting he had money but no one knew he was the dark Lord of the Sith and had seduced Palpatine to the Darkside to become Darth Sidious. He had planned to have Palpatine & him to rule the Galaxy but Sidious got him drunk & tortured him with Sith lightning and killed him taking on the mantle of dark Lord being he already had Darth Maul he then gave himself the mantle of master and Mall became a true sith apprentice. All this is cool to me but Aniken skywalker killed 3 Sith (Darth Tyranus(Dooku),Sidious(Palpatine) & himself Vader. He truly was the chosen one thanks to Luke bringing back the good deep inside him that his wife Padmé knew he had.

[@grandadmiralpickleslee654]

It's 3 in the Bar on CORUSCANT in Vader armor

[@MrUshtush]

You already know at the end when he couldn’t sense palp, Palp was about to plan and launch the biggest comeback of all time 🤣🤣

[@orukarm]

I mean none of this would happen this way because Plagueis feared anakin being trained and allowed to continue living because Plagueis knew that Anakin was his doing. Anakin was the force’s way of punishing Plagueis for overstepping his bounds with the dark side, and he knew that even if Anakin was to be trained by the sith, he would eventually complete his destiny and destroy them, Plagueis would’ve preferred a way to kidnap Anakin and isolate him and his influence on events from the galaxy and hopefully from the force.

[@plinyelder8156]

@8:02 One major flaw with your story: Plagueis would outmatch Palpatine in one-on-one battle. That’s why Palpatine had to get Plagueis in the original story.

[@Jeffthecreepyastafan]

I do believe sidous is stronger then his master but plagueis is more smarter and wiser then sidous

[@slimshady9147]

Sidious Mastered all lightsaber forms.

[@hrperformance]

That was really REALLY good Stupendous Wave. Bravo man! Also thanks for cutting down on the lengthy sponser adds! Really appreciated

[@devilsminus4743]

What if the Jedi executed order 65? Hope you can see this I am very curious!! :)

[@uncahay]

Palpatine, scarred by the clone assault on the Invisible Hand, takes Obi-Wan (gravely injured but not dead), and builds him a suit of power armor?

[@DarthRoken]

This was one of the best what if fan fiction’s that I have come across. I like the story line you created. It’s a very likely path for events if Plagous wasn’t killed. And I can see how Plagous would be fascinated by Anakin having been created by the Force itself and becoming the Chosen Ones confidant in the way that Darth Sidious was in the original sequence of events. Well done!

[@johnosby2257]

this was great what if.

[@TheTrueSpottedStripe]

I'd still be doing the dishes...as always, even when IT NOT MY FREAKING TURN!!!

[@cuesan8023]

Such a rare video to see. So close, almost feels right, more equal in the Force. Plagueis knows of the Force reverberating, finding an equilibrium... Palpatine being such an absolute, may not have died, yet through the betrayal, Plagueis managed to escape. This is as close as it gets to being better than what we were given. Keep it up. Phenomenal.

[@slashinswingin4369]

Do a scenario where Palpatine does live (it's left to ambiguity here, after all)

[@ajamusic7322]

What if Amidala signed the Trade Federation Treaty? Would Palpatine still become Chancellor?

[@steverogers9659]

this way by far the most detailed and well written that if I have seen. brilliant to have someone out manipulate Palpatine! I hope you will consider doing a part 2 as there is still plenty of room to expand this story. plagues is such a deep character and different than most all Dark Lord's. anyway, thanks for the last 13 and a half minutes. really great!

[@Jacrispy856]

What if Tup executed Anakin instead of Tiplar at the battle of Ringo Vinda?

[@seanduarte5989]

Make a part 2 this story can go on

[@josiahwoody7794]

I can see that videos like this take a lot of effort and time. Just know that your efforts are not in vain. Your channel is one of the best on KZbin in my opinion (at least for a crazy Star Wars nerd like me), and I'm sure you will continue to improve. Please KEEP UP THE STUPENDOUS WORK!

[@grsaekar]

WHAT IF: The Grand Inquisitor Never Died????

[@micahjohn7411]

He doesn't have enough information in the story of Rebels to do it. Wait until a couple more seasons are released then maybe he will.

[@yoda5523]

Pumpkin Bricks he'd die later

[@brettgb1314]

Then he gets killed by Vader.

[@kidsens4597]

Actually they are making a 4th season, it's being wrote right now.

[@puppsss8910]

What if Anakin and Asoka had feelings for each other?

[@Vazcular]

@Sheputster Different galaxy, different rules...

[@ilikebigbuttsandicannotden3753]

@Sheputster jail bait😂

[@BSM-vw6cf]

@@happybalint Anakin was 8 while padme was like in her early 20s

[@kullenlein6772]

look it up, im sure you can find it, try oh idk.... rule 34

[@invinciblereason1618]

Tbf i bet plenty of jedis were pedophiles. No women that they are allowed to have relations with and a temple full of younglings. I bet the council had dozens of younglings and yoda was probably the best at it.

[@arkt1k330]

your storytelling abilities are insane! Good job man!

[@guswaldspurger8168]

What if dooku killed palpatine in the separatist ship and escaped alive

[@themandoloriangamer6831]

I don't think that Plagueis and Anakin would be able to form a relationship. Palpatine was the closet thing Anakin had to a father, but Plaguesis physical figure isn't very fatherly for Anakin. Palpatine had a more relatable face

[@TheConqueror009]

The Mandolorian Gamer racist hahaha

[@drewdunham8530]

I would love to see you do a what if of Anakin Solo. If he hadn't died in star by star.

[@jeffcantrell9500]

What if Palpatine killed Obi-Wan and Yoda, then found and raised Vader's kids himself? What if Obi-Wan killed Vader and Tarkin and took over the first Death Star? What if Yoda killed Luke on Dagobah to prevent his possible turn to the dark side? What if Luke killed Lando, Boba Fett, and Vader and saved the frozen Han on Bespin?

[@jeffcantrell9500]

What if Vader killed Obi-Wan and Padme on Mustafar? What if Yoda killed the Emperor? What if Vader killed Leia on Tarkin's orders? What if the Tuskens killed Luke and Obi-Wan only saved the Droids? What if Han killed Lando on Bespin?

[@doctorsplashtail]

omg we need a part 2. plz

[@donovandelaney3171]

No, I don't buy the rest of that story. Anakin, Obi-Won and Plagueis would leave the room and Anakin and Obi-Won would land the ship. But that would be the last time that Anakin would see Plagueis alive. For Plagueis would be dead the next day. Palpatine would see Plagueis become a ghost and disappear. Plagueis would experiment with trying to bring himself back to life by creating a new body for himself. Plagueis creates a new body for himself. Then Plagueis dies again. Plagueis trains Vader for a few days and leaves and Plagueis meets Luke and trains Luke for a few days and leaves. Luke turns Plagueis and Plagueis become a Dark Grey Jedi.

[@Ambitious419]

It would be amazing too see a part 2 telling us more about if he would help Anakin and try to save his wife and order 66 and more but obviously with Plagueis

[@krishantaneja8316]

Padme being the dark lord of the sith would be the greatest plot twist ever!!!!!

[@BakedFrodo96]

Duuuude you should make a part two for this one! Order 66 with Plagueis and how Vader would be different without Obi-wan, and the return of Sidious :D

[@abrakadabra6364]

Sequel please!❤️

[@nobodyatall6620]

your outro was different by one word and it's bugging me way too much

[@999999SkyGuy]

Yeah from your too that. Thats so sad.😰

[@rickgale6914]

Ive been waiting for this video. I am so glad you made it. However, im not sure if Palpatine could defeat Plagueis in a lightsaber duel. It would be a very interesting fight. But, I do agree that the subject of Anakin would be of the utmost importance to both sith lords.

[@thebricklegend6211]

What if Anakin never became a Jedi?

[@alphamegazulu6654]

Then he definitely wasn't the Chosen One.

[@thebricklegend6211]

That would be true

[@cadkls]

+Alphamega Zulu He is still the chosen one regardless of if he is a sith or a Jedi. He will be just as powerful and still prophesised to BRING BALANCE to the force. The chosen one wasn't meant to destroy the sith, the chosen one is supposed to be neutral, and he succeeded, he eliminated all but a few Jedi, leaving him and Sidious who are both extremely powerful in the force, thereby making up for the fact that there are slightly more Jedi. I don't understand where you got the idea he wouldn't be the chosen one from. It implies that a chosen one can only be a Jedi. It's a bit silly.

[@alphamegazulu6654]

***** I think you're taking these movies WAY too seriously....

[@cadkls]

+Alphamega Zulu Ummm no it's an observation. I actually took note of the film. It's called discussing continuity. The films clearly state he is to bring balance to the force, that's in the script, it's said. The only reason you said that is because it's star wars, and not some generic film. I bet if this was some average film, you wouldnt have said that. It's just a stereotype mate. Stop being such a conformist.

[@theawesomebrit3676]

what if anakin killed palpatine when he revealed he was a Sith

[@supershenron9162]

you really should have kept going or made a part 2 by far this is my favorite star wars fan video period I've watched it many times and thought through the prequels even the original trilogy with this set of events. gives me chills just thinking about the possibilities

[@hifive326]

What if the rebels were never able to blow up the 2nd death star

[@hifive326]

True never thought it would be that easy

[@sertaki]

Luke might have gone dark in that instance though, as all his friends would die during the battle, claiming the title of Emperor for himself and leaving behind a few disappointed ghosts, including his father who then sacrificed himself for nothing.