Game of Thrones Symbolism: The Baratheons

We continue our series on the deeper meaning of the Game of Thrones house symbols with House Baratheon. SUBSCRIBE to our channel! Support The Take on Patreon: / thetake . Follow us on / thisisthetake and / thisisthetake
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* Martin, George R.R. "A Song of Ice and Fire." Bantam Books.
* freeguess. "An Analysis of House Words." /r/asoiaf on Reddit, 5 Jan. 2013.
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[@ashtonhynes1745]

ScreenPrism these videos are fantastic! Absolutely the best break downs out there, constantly reminding me how layered the story is in all it's parts. Guys, please never stop making videos about GOT 😁 btw, all of your videos are amazing!

[@niket527]

You forgot the symbolism of Tywin skinning the stag in season 1 inside the Lannister tent.

[@judeisurufernando674]

ScreenPrism I like the fact that this series is directed and narrated by women and it's not a big deal. That's the kind of diversity I love. Nobody made a fuss about it.

[@stannis760]

Cersei the First of Her Name rules The Seven Kingdoms now. No man dare make a fuss in a woman's realm.

[@DragonHeart613]

ScreenPrism I love your GofTs symbolism vids a whole lot but why include House Stark as 1 of the families seeking to take The Iron Throne from House Baratheon@8:28??? Robb Stark was the only participant in The War of The 5 Kings who wasn't interested nor did he even want The Iron Throne, only vengeance & justice for his father's death and to rescue his sisters and to liberate the entire North from Lannister control!!!

[@smkirkegaard54]

Robert: "I never loved my brothers." Stannis: "I didn't love him, he didn't love me." Renly: "I.. loved you once..."

[@dumitrache12]

Stannis's quote is about Robert because ever since their parents died he left his ancestral home to train with Ned under Jon Arryn. Also Stannis has another quote the second day of Renly's death : Fools love a fool, I loved him too , I know this now."

[@janmedeus3070]

Stannis to Davos, A Clash of Kings Renly offered me a peach. At our parley. Mocked me, defied me, threatened me, and offered me a peach. I thought he was drawing a blade and went for mine own. Was that his purpose, to make me show fear? Or was it one of his pointless jests? When he spoke of how sweet the peach was, did his words have some hidden meaning? Only Renly could vex me with a piece of fruit. He brought his doom on himself with his treason, but I did love him, Davos. I know that now. I swear, I will go to my grave thinking of my brother’s peach.

[@Hugh_Morris]

Jan Medeus and that’s the beauty of the books

[@arthurdryden3696]

@@Hugh_Morris yes, Renly if I recall, does not say anything about love to his brother, even worse, he makes japes on Stannis's wife and always calls his daughter ugly

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

@@arthurdryden3696 You also forgot a detail where Renly even claims that he'll be a better king than Stannis just because he's popular while Stannis isn't.

[@SteveSmith-wk9dx]

In the books, they make the analogy of metals. Robert: steel - a true warrior who corrodes with time. Stannis: iron - tough, but brittle and inflexible. Renly: copper - bright and shiny, but soft and useless.

[@entwouanne]

Copper useless??

[@antonioakiki3716]

Killer bean army well without electricity copper is useless, only for decoration

[@Fruzhin5483]

@@entwouanne It is a soft metal and bends easily, so not really useful as a tool.

[@Lancer212]

I know what paragraph you are referring to, but you have misquoted it heavily.

[@Aaronge29]

Not copper, but bronze

[@miros6911]

wait a second stannis burned his daughter only in the tv show but in books he even said that if he dies then he wants his daughter to be on the iron throne.. stannis is the best character in the books

[@mohit09876]

Is he still alive in the books?

[@brambam7892]

@@mohit09876 yes

[@camerontoy8154]

Bram Bam that’s not confirmed

[@georgecross4100]

Cameron Toy Grrm directly said in an interview “In my books? [Stannis] is still very much alive”

[@5000mahmud]

@@georgecross4100 based

[@DarkKing009]

"Robert was the true steel. Stannis is pure iron, black and hard and strong, yes, but brittle, the way iron gets. He'll break before he bends. And Renly, that one, he's copper, bright and shiny, pretty to look at but not worth all that much at the end of the day." by Donal Noye

[@justinelouise2655]

a clash of kings!

[@ramdharisinghdinkar1069]

I was hoping to find this quote in comment section

[@angiev6913]

DarkKing009 Yep, and Gendry is valyrian steel 💪

[@joeycash9739]

angie v No such thing as Gendry in the books, he's not all the impressive anyway

[@kingjonstarkgeryan8573]

angie v Not really unless you are talking about the show's version shirtless version. Then for women, you are right.

[@dirlegangergaming8883]

Robert Baratheon: black of hair Stannis Baratheon: lack of hair Holy shit havent see this comment im ages thanks for the likes guys

[@mariia099]

IM DEAAADDD

[@avinash.upadhyaya]

random guy lmao😂😂😂

[@bluebellhs]

omg I'm dying haha

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

Tommen Baratheon: lack of blare

[@kawaiipanda4013]

random guy that’s the tea

[@aidanrogers4438]

Stannis the Mannis will live on in our hearts.

[@phrophetsamgames]

And in the books

[@Persoon56]

And in the books, he's a better man, if you ask me.

[@leaveme3559]

Batman Jr. He burned his daughter no fucking way man

[@АрсенийХарькин-ч4м]

The Kamal Kartik And that made no sence.

[@stoutyyyy]

The Kamal Kartik not in the book

[@genuinelyhonest1991]

Shireen isnt sickly, she was cured of greyscale completely, merely a scar left over.

[@robpolaris7272]

Her mom was projecting. She was mentally ill. Seeing her happy, kind, scarred daughter made her both jealous and feel like a failure as a mother.

[@jkejmc1249]

In the books there are some hints that shireens greyscale is not cured but only dormant and it might come back at anytime it’s not confirmed but it’s hinted at

[@ChukN0rris]

Stannis never sought revenge for anything, he sought justice. Stannis was one of the least emotional people in all of westeros. You can count the times Stannis was impulsive by the fingers on Davo's right hand.

[@ms_scribbles]

You know, I'm starting to see that most book readers seem to base their view of Stannis on what others say about him, and what he lied to others about himself, rather than actually paying attention to Stannis' *actions*. I forget which book it is, but the prologue of one of them is ALL about Stannis whining and whining and bitching and pissing and moaning about how nobody loves him and weeeh weeeeh everyone loved my brothers more than meeeee, why won't they love meee, weeeeeeeeehhhhhhh. MY RIGHTS MY RIGHTS WEEEEEHHH! Sure, he's a cold dick to most people, but there's no justice or lack of emotion in him. If there was, he wouldn't bitch about his rights all the time. He's so desperate for some reputation, *any* reputation, that he'll hurt anyone and everyone around him just so he can say he's hard, but fair. But tell me, how much justice was in burning his in-laws alive, who hadn't done anything illegal? None.

[@ChukN0rris]

I didn't say that Stannis has no feelings, but that he is one of the least likely people to display them openly. I have not read the books so I don't know the context of this whining, bitching, pissing and moaning, and "weeeh weeeeh", but it sounds like you have very strong opinions about it. I would likely consider Stannis point of view understandable, seeing that his conviction in his obligation to his people and the other way around is woefully under appreciated. I think the bitching about his rights you mention is what I'd call pressing his claim. When the Iron throne is your's by right and you have a reputation, and he does have reputation, to be both absolutely unyielding and a brilliant military strategist stating your claim carries a lot of weight. On the topic of burning his in-laws I have to admit that burning people is morally wrong but it is still just in that it was the consequence of their own choice not to renounce the seven despite Stannis order to do so, and knowing the consequences. Now, if pretty much anyone else had done the same thing in the same situation it wouldn't have been just but Stannis holds Himself to the very-same admittedly rigorous standards he applies to his subjects and that is what sets him apart. Even if he did bitch and moan, he always did his duty and after he became King he never asked more of his subjects than he himself would have been willing to give in their place.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

"how much justice was in burning his in-laws alive, who hadn't done anything illegal?" but as the king he had made what they did illegal and thus he was serving justice from his point of view. and i do think you stormwolf have exagerated his whinning, i didn't find him that bad of a whinner, he is intilled and he should be.

[@Marviczekpusiczek]

@@ms_scribbles You horribly exaggerate. His "whining" as you say was probably one or two sentences simply stating facts that he was never popular. Actually your whole comment appears to be so toxicly whiny that I am not even surprised that you formed such a weird opinion about him in spite of reading the books. "how much justice was in burning his in-laws alive, who hadn't done anything illegal?" - If I am not mistaken this never happened in the books. The only ones who were burned alive by Stannis were deserters, rapists and other criminals. Stannis was a good man even in the TV show but some of his actions were twisted. To anyone who liked him in the TV show I definitely recommend to read the books. This is where his character truly "shines".

[@catelyntully9494]

@@ms_scribbles I invite you to reread that prologue (In the second book a Clash of Kings) with the information we know about Stannis, Davos and more important for this case Melisandre. Mel can see things in the future and by the attitude Stannis displays in the chapter you can see it's... totally off to be honest, but you can join the pieces. Think about it like this, Mel knew that Cressen was going to poison her (So she took the antidote and wasn't affected by the poison thus being more powerful in the eyes of everyone after this) so she told Stannis about it, I am sure he didn't belive it but lets say she say something among the lines of "let it happen, and I will convince you of my power" and well Cressen DID poison Melisandre, and if we recall Stannis didn't woke him up (posible because he didn't want anything to happen) and after Mel stuff being prove truth he had nothing left but believe her and ultimatly confirm everything when Cressen tried to poison her. Just mentioning the prologue thing, the other stuff will take a lot of time.

[@mrshmrsh5073]

"Jendry"

[@SeemsLogical]

Like nails on a chalkboard

[@LevityRhodes]

I am so easy to gaslight I literally had to look up the pronunciation

[@wectyler3817]

Holy Molly the second i read that was the second she Said it haha

[@aaronmarsh8384]

It's like sandpaper being dragged across the top of ones finger nails😣

[@HMfire95]

Thank God I'm not the only one who cringed at that

[@the.saunter.experiment]

that... is not how you pronounce gendry

[@thetake]

xtiechannel good point. Our mistake -- thanks for catching!

[@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu]

Yeah, it's Gendry not Jendry

[@alfiehagan438]

Actually she's right. With interviews with GRRM he pronounces it that way. It's the show who got it wrong lol.

[@Beefbeff]

Cite you sources sir.

[@alfiehagan438]

Go to the Pronunciation guide on a wiki of ice and fire and go down to Gendry and it tells you

[@Citizen_J]

Puts the word vengeful next to Stannis, one of the least vengeful people. He is about rule of law, not vengeance

[@ms_scribbles]

You should tell that to his wife's family that he burned alive...oh wait, you can't. Besides being fictional, they're also dead.

[@Citizen_J]

StormWolf you mean the family that supported Renly?

[@sethgilliam7703]

@StormWolf you mean the family that sent terms of Stannis' surrender to the Lannisters behind his back, even offering to marry Shireen to Tommen, making them traitors?

[@lv83bloodknight]

@@ms_scribbles He didn't burn his wife's whole family, just the guy who committed treason, most of his wife's family are still alive.

[@ethanragbir8311]

@@lv83bloodknight Aye he burned the traitor and coward Alseter Florent

[@lmperiun]

Robert Baratheon: "START this damn joust before I piss meself!" Also Robert Baratheon: "STOP THIS MADNESS IN THE NAME OF YOUR KING!"

[@johnnewman1910]

Imperium he was the best king

[@giad2329]

Bobby B!!!!!!!!

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

By “STOP” it was no longer a joust but more of a brawl to death. It still surprises me he stopped at the best part

[@danielbrown3048]

Another great piece of symbolism in the show is when Jaime throws bran out the window, symbolizing the throwing of Jaimes arc out of the window to come in the future

[@coconoisette]

And when Tommen falls from very high, symbolising how bricks falling from very high will kill cersei and jaime

[@1010sams]

"Jendry..."

[@sammy4282]

1010sams We are looking for... *reads Gendry* ....JENDRY!!!

[@omglykmybffjill]

It used to bug me when people pronounced it like that too until I realized that it sounds more like "Gentry" like that, which means people of nobility or high social class/ well-borne.

[@aryasnow2709]

I cringed

[@mayhewstorm1473]

Giraffe Germ Gerbil Gendry

[@zisforziggens]

Gemma? I found a glitch in the matrix

[@shrey768]

Gendry is rowing since last 2 seasons... 😄

[@GoldenRose116]

four by now XD

[@Life4Metalcore]

he could have rowed to Ashai by now

[@augustopinochet6359]

Kate Santana bullshit

[@the1nonlyani]

Kate Santana last week yeah not this today's episode

[@MasonicadaM]

he rowed to essos and is the blacksmith for the golden merc guys

[@narasimhashelar6745]

Stannis is different in the books. That's why so many people love him and are loyal to him.

[@wootwoot8890]

Missing Stannis in the show... he was witty at times

[@TheMrromanthx]

less...fewer

[@tribeman19]

WOOT WOOT crazy at the end

[@MrCiqano]

* knee bending intensifies*

[@colinsilver1041]

Stannis was my favorite in the show. And now his watch ends.

[@colinsilver1041]

figot latenby I sure hope you get to, bcuz that line is worth saying. Lol

[@JGGuitarCovers]

Born amidst salt and smoke... is he a ham?

[@nyxqueen5417]

Johnny Gartland one of my favorite lines

[@mr.goldenglasses6839]

Johnny Gartland that's twice I've warned you

[@bloodfalconfantastic4445]

Nixon the Vixen and the peach.

[@saifuddin8571]

Lmao....that one got me😂

[@TV4Fun2]

Some symbolism I'm surprised you didn't mention: When Robert ascended to the iron throne, he added a crown to his house's sigil, but he didn't add it on top of the deer's head as you might expect, but around its neck. That is after all, what the crown is to Robert, it is not a triumphant thing that he wants to have, it is a noose around his neck that will eventually kill him.

[@jackevans6200]

From a historical perspective (and I know I'm not the first to notice this), have any of you noticed the comparisons between the Baratheon Brothers and the Brothers of the House of York (Edward, George, Richard)? -Edward IV/Robert: Both superb military commanders, physically strong and large in their prime (Edward still remains Britain's tallest king at 6'4!), and both won their crowns on the battlefield (The Trident is essentially the Battles of Towton and Tewkesbury rolled into one). Both their realms experienced some sense of peace while they ruled. And both got soft and fat towards the end of their reigns, and both were notorious womanisers. However whilst Robert was a poor politician and lived for the fight, Edward was an excellent administrator and took huge leaps in expanding Britain's prestige abroad. -George, Duke of Clarence/Renly: Both possessed charm and wit, as well as enjoying the benefits of court life and high society. However, both were quite naïve when it came to dealing with matters they thought would advance them into higher power (Renly rashly proclaims himself King, despite knowing Stannis to be the rightful king; George abandoned his brothers to join the Lancastrians in a futile gesture), and both pay dearly for their treason: Renly is assassinated by the Shadow demon, and George is soon executed for treason by being drowned in a barrel of wine, as well as being murdered by their own brothers. -Richard III/Stannis: Like Richard, Stannis was an excellent battlefield commander, and both were responsible for winning battles that enabled their brothers to keep both the Iron Throne and English Throne respectively. Both also felt that they felt unrewarded despite their many years of service. Both were also astute and incisive politicians as well, with a strong, albeit self-righteous sense of justice, honour and duty, and who rallies support in the north by defending it from invasion. Both also denounce their nephews as illegitimate, and thus are dragged into war soon enough. Also enjoy enduring legacies amongst GOT fans and Ricardians, with each group seeing them as the 'rightful king', and of being misunderstood amongst the other characters/figures of their own world.

[@CathieSoli]

However, Roberts children really WERE illegitimate, whereas Edward's were not. The only reason Edward's were declared such was because it was deemed a child couldn't rule the kingdom effectively and would be governed by the regent. That was the real reason Richard grabbed the crown for himself.

[@gfilmer7150]

Edward IV = Robb Stark

[@MrWilliamo]

ahhhhhh yes that well known character jendry

[@Dontouchmyfrys]

I cringed every time they said his name 🤣🤣

[@purplexninjamom]

Hated the pronounciation

[@SuicideBunny6]

"Your brother is the Lord's Chosen, born amidst salt and smoke." Renly: Born amidst salt and smoke, is he a ham? xD

[@Cyprienroche]

I love the little "rolleyes" that Melisandre does ^^ like "ok that was actually pretty funny". I remember when season 2 was coming out, I was hoping for a Baratheon bros alliance so much... they would have quickly ended the Lannisters together and could have fought the White Walker side by side with Robb Stark. Daenerys would have also helped out against the real enemy, and they could have received them with thousands of dragonglass tipped arrows volleys + dragons + all the Valyrian steel they could put together. Oh well, that would have been a completely different story I guess ^^'

[@KeeperCharlie]

oooh that was what he said.. i thought he said 'is she your hand(of the king)?'

[@destrologando2362]

“...I got Margaery. You’ll be pleased to know she came to me a maid.” “In your bed she’s like to die that way.”

[@knightseer7041]

Randall Flagg "Dragon glass tipped arrows". FUCK!! Why did no one think of that!

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

I wish Renly and Stannis got along. However, I prefer Renly on the throne tbh..

[@dilbert7120]

Forgot to mention how the first time we see Tywin Lannister in the show, he's butchering and cleaning a stag, showing how him and his house dismantled the Baratheon house and took the Iron Throne for themselves.

[@saljpal3]

There was another deleted scene showing him catching some fish foreshadowing house Tully's fate.

[@wastehazey6468]

Why is Robert great? The Clegane brothers. Two of the most ruthless, skilled and fearless warriors of all Westeros. Both scared shitless when Robert shouts at them.

[@FreddyRiggo417]

GENDRY!!!! GET OFF YOUR FUCKING BOAT AND GO SAVE HOUSE BARATHEON!!!!!!

[@augustopinochet6359]

Federico Ortega coming soon...

[@ramonce_yt]

Federico Ortega Warhammer dropping in!

[@shireenbaratheon6955]

House Baratheon began with Aegon's bastard brother and now Robert's bastard will rebuild it! Being a bastard hasn't exactly stopped Jon Snow.

[@kittylover62]

Who's going to legitimize him? House Baratheon is practically gone!

[@jacksonthesyndicalist2771]

He is my king, His great grandfather was Aegon Targaren, fifth of his name, king of the Andals and the first men, lord of the seven kingdoms and protector of the realm, he has more right to the throne than any man living.

[@supermegaguy666]

"Born amongst salt and smoke...? Is he a ham?" Lmao, best quote in the entire show

[@jamesburgess2k]

Haven't seen anyone mention the fact that the crown is around the neck of the stag, instead of more commonly on it's head, almost as if it's choking itself. Showing that the crown, or the pursuit to obtain it, will lead to their strangulation or death. Also that it's intentionally put around it's own neck during the change of their sigil, showing their decision to go after their eventual death in the name of power is a fate chosen by themselves.

[@holypaladin4657]

This is an old comment but the sigil was never changed. It was the old sigil of the Durrandon Storm Kings and thus the crown on the stag was always present throughout the histories of houses Durrandon and Baratheon.

[@xxYumiHeartxx]

"Ours Is The Fury" Man, the Starks are my favorite house, but the Baratheons have my favorite motto.

[@TheDawg1212]

We all know who the rightful king is here.

[@SuperPaez]

Usurpers in the north, the west, the isles, and the south...greedy power hungry thieves every last one of them. But the rightful King comes for them all...the Baratheons say _Ours Is The Fury_ well I will show them *Fury Burns*.

[@bloodfalconfantastic4445]

Renly?

[@SuperPaez]

Renly and Daenaerys are ursurpers

[@kjsdpgijn]

Yeah, I miss Renly too buddy :(

[@ms_scribbles]

Renly.

[@28maitreyagupta21]

"Born Among Salt And Stone , Is He A Ham?" The roasting is strong with this one.

[@bouttreefiddy6163]

How was Renly the most likable and beloved. I really loved Stannis. I loved his relationship with his daughter. Her death because his deranged obsession with the throne was probably the saddest moment on the show. He was probably the most suited to be king of the three. Tragic character.

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

Renly received a personality change when the show was being produced; I'll say this much now, he was more of an ass than Stannis, and Stannis can be pretty nasty when he's snapping about valid points.

[@whatzittooya3873]

I liked Stannis until what he did to his daughter.. I was so sad for Davos

[@jyggalag9838]

I wished they just followed the book completely, what a waste

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

@@jyggalag9838 The PROBLEM was that they had outpaced the books by that point.

[@anexpertonthematter1468]

@@discountplaguedoctor88 actually no, they were close but they hadnt outpaced them yet. And it is only because they skipped like 1700+ pages from the books...

[@gabriel82991]

Robert's Rebellion did not happen because Robert was sad Lyanna left, it happened because Brandon and Rickard were murdered by the Mad King as well as 700 men from the north. THIS triggered the rebellion!

[@fanelemabaso2514]

What triggered the rebellion was the mad king asking for Robert and Neds heads.

[@gfilmer7150]

I call that Targaryen aggression

[@ZeriocTheTank]

Stannis the Mannis, the one true king of the seven kingdoms!

[@lucozadeja.3331]

I love that you mentioned that joffery is roberts LEGAL BUT NON BIOLOGICAL son. people seem to overlook that. genes alone does not a father or child make.

[@bobhollywood6292]

Lucozade Ja. true, but that's looking at it from our world's perspective. in their world, a bastard doesn't belong on the throne, unless he's been legitimised, and that hasn't happened for joffrey because his twisted conception is just being brought to light at the start of the story.

[@SpiralSine6]

“He may have been your father, boy, but he wasn’t your daddy.”

[@figodwnnieto2581]

He's actually completely illegitimate regardless. He has no blood of Roberts in him and is no legal heir. If Robert knew he'd have been killed along with his mother

[@rossshand4385]

Actually they were making completely the opposite point. Acting like someone's father doesn't mean you are their father.

[@sheevpalpatine1105]

did you know this is a representation of the medieval europe and not the modern western world? so why should be there modern standarts? Joffrey is not of Robert's blood.

[@Mizukageize]

And then, we have Gendry. He has hammer, he smash hads.

[@malenasander7906]

JustFunkinDandy the last true Baratheon

[@brad7566]

"Jendry"

[@zemljajeravna5336]

Hes not stubborn hes not Baratheon.

[@jyggalag9838]

Just like his father

[@reginaphalange9417]

Gendry Baratheon finally became the heir of the family

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

Probably one of the few good things that happened in the entirety of the 8th season.

[@aposapocalypse7117]

Stannis is not dead Stannis will be never dead Because the night is dark and full of terrors

[@faisalkamal4319]

Stannis is not dead because he's Stannis the mannis

[@domonicdecoco2410]

I really wish Renly got more screen time. He was such a cool character. Conflicted by his sexuality and known fact that he has no legitimate claim to the iron throne.. I feel this could have been far more elaborated on in season 2. Idk why they killed him off so quickly. It’s not like they were short on (opportunity) episode plot run time.

[@doctorpygmy6020]

he was even more charismatic and charming in the books even

[@gfilmer7150]

@@doctorpygmy6020 And he was a total asshole. A dishonorable traitor deserves a dishonorable death.

[@doctorpygmy6020]

​@@gfilmer7150 Okayyyy

[@robespierre2837]

@@gfilmer7150 why

[@gfilmer7150]

@@robespierre2837 He betrayed his brother, he was a narcissist, and he was a douche bag (making fun of Brienne).

[@Mega2chan]

stannis is the best baratheon you can’t change my mind

[@gooby214]

*I can't change facts

[@MohamedMahmoud-nh4gf]

Same brother

[@rhysoneill7399]

Hell yeah.

[@bobbyb6053]

Gods I was strong then...

[@chuchomacias4212]

Joffrey isn’t even a Baratheon

[@stephenparallox]

Baratheons: Ours is the Fury! Targaryens: Hold my beer.

[@adammacontosh9595]

No baratheon was alive ti stop Dany, atleast no true baratheon.

[@ethanragbir8311]

If Stannis sat the Iron Throne with a unified Kingdom behind him he would have ended House Targaryen easily whether it be the spawn of the Mad King or that false targaryen pretender Aegon with the golden company.

[@holypaladin4657]

If you don’t count dragons the Baratheons and the extinct Durrandons are/were far more intimidating and dangerous than the Targaryens.

[@MrSyntaxman]

The show is non-cannon Say it with me: Stannis "The Mannis" Baratheon First of his name King of the Andals, the Rhoinar, and the First Men Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm

[@CountingStars333]

Hahahahaha

[@gooby214]

ONE GOD, ONE REALM, ONE KING. STANNIS. STANNIS.

[@9822703]

don't forget he is self styled King of Westeros, not lord of the 7 kingdoms

[@TheNMan64]

...until he dies in The Winds of Winter...

[@gfilmer7150]

@@TheNMan64 He'll die fighting The Others.

[@JavierHERNANDEZ-ko6ft]

I'm the true king my brother never wanted to be king. I would've been a better leader than robert and less cruel than joffery. During Roberts Rebellion I had to stay at Storms End protecting my people we were hungry and robert didn't give a damn but my loyal smuggler ser Davos of house seaworth risked his life to give my people and I food. After the rebellion I thought my brother was going to give me storms end but he gave it to my brother Renly. I was thrown to dragon stone. The show fucked over my character I would never kill my daughter a true king never dies.

[@napolien1310]

Stannis Baratheon Did they mention the idea of why Robert gave him dragonstone!?

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

dragon stone is the traditional castle of the Targaryen (so can be seen as an honor), but its essentially worthless compared to storms end and robert hated the Targaryens so it can also be seen as an insult.

[@Brandonhayhew]

Robert is always a big bully to stannis even when they were young for a long time, if i were Robert I would at least let Stannis keep Storm end, and never make stannis marry anyone, until Renly his only brother is the only heir to storm end?

[@napolien1310]

soyon manlai Sorry man but I got confused at your comment u need to rewrites it. Also Robert gave stannis dragonstone because he was the heir of Robert.

[@Brandonhayhew]

napolien 1 Robert gave stannis, dragonstone that old piece of shit of a castle to stannis is because, he send him there to capture those kids so he can kill them, but they runaway. Robert gave stannis that castle because his furious at him and other saw it honourable reward but in stannis he didn't liked he despises. Robert and stannis never had love, only hate, Robert would have liked renly as his heir more unlike stannis. If I were stannis I would leave westeros, because my brothers don't care about me.

[@Bondrewd_TheNovel]

6:57 Robert Baratheon - fat of hair, Stannis Baratheon - lack of hair, Joffrey Baratheon - purple head

[@sheep2826]

The whole “Joffrey can’t be a Baratheon because he’s blonde” thing shows that they didn’t really understand biology back then. If Robert Baratheon is Hererozygous for Black hair, and Cersei is Homozygous for blonde, then they can have a blonde child. We know Joffrey is actually Jaime’s son but it’s not outside the realm of possibility for a lineage of black hair to end up with a blonde child, especially if their mother is blonde. Also this is more just a result of casting, but Robert Baratheon doesn’t have black hair, and neither Cersei nor Jaime have blonde hair. Considering how big a deal their hair color is in this show and the producers’ willingness to use a wig on Emilia Clark to make her blonde makes me wonder why this detail is so overlooked.

[@gooby214]

It's even worse how they let Shireen's hair color be blonde in the show, when in the books she has black hair.

[@gfilmer7150]

In the second book, A Clash of Kings, Stannis besieges his former (and Renly's seat) Storm's End to acquire one of Robert Baratheon's bastards, a boy named Edric. Robert slept with a cousin of Sleyse Florent (Stannis' wife) on Stannis' bed the day of Stannis' wedding, resulting in Edric. Being Robert's only acknowledged bastard, Renly raises Edric at Storm's End and gives the title of guardian to his man Cortney Penrose after Renly joins The Smalls Council. Because Edric is the spitting image of Robert, Stannis besieges Storm's End and plans on using Edric to prove his case to the people of King's Landing and The Lords of Westeros, that Joffery is a Lannister.

[@holypaladin4657]

Literally everyone sired by a Baratheon male, regardless of the hair and eye colour of the mother, is described as tall, of strong frame, black haired, and blue eyed (even females have tall and robust frames in the case of at least Mya Stone). Baratheon males (at least, again Mya Stone is an example of a female who is the same) also tend to have certain personality traits in common even over their hundreds of years of history (maybe thousands as I will get to). Rogar Baratheon and his brothers, Ormund Baratheon, Borros Baratheon, Lyonel Baratheon, Robert Baratheon, Stannis Baratheon, even Renly Baratheon all have a strong self determination and stubborn implacability in their character, even if the nature, expression and focus of it differs from individual to individual. The Baratheons are descendants of the Durrandons from the marriage of Orys Baratheon and Argella Durrandon. Orys Baratheon also took the lands, sigil and words of House Durrandon as his own. Argilac Durrandon was named “the Arrogant” for a reason. And if we look at the story of the founder of House Durrandon (Durran Godsgrief) he was also a very stubborn man who defied the gods and took their daughter as his bride. The Baratheon character seems to have roots older than their House. Take note that this also means that the Durrandons and, by extension, the Baratheons supposedly have divine ancestry. We know that there is such a thing as supernatural genetics in the ASoIaF world. Houses with strong First Men origins like the Starks, Blackwoods and Reeds have greenseers and warging and such. Valyrians (Targaryens) have dragon dreams, coin flip and dragon taming. The Baratheons and their Durrandon forebears are an extremely old and powerful pair of houses that have origins in the Age of Heroes and supposed divine blood. More often than not their larger than life personalities and imposing physiques make them more akin to forces of nature than men. The takeaway from all this is that you shouldn’t bother to bring your punnet squares and arguments of dominant vs recessive into this discussion. The Baratheons are obviously intended to be supernatural.

[@adamamador1001]

“gods the Baratheons were strong then.”

[@engrRGV]

these symbolism videos are great but i suggest you use elements from the book which is important and more interesting

[@jaylenmcbride6332]

hey i exist I agrre

[@persephonehades7547]

I disagree. Some people haven't read the books, but plan to read them after the show ends.

[@engrRGV]

Persephone Hades so? not that it it will spoil them anyways

[@matthewmoreo6276]

I feel like some of these "Symbols" are overthought and just simply wrong. Im sure parts of this video might be right but for the majority of these I just don't agree with them. Book or Show.

[@the_jolly_bunny]

I'm in love with Renly, He´s gorgeous!!

[@claytonpeterson2845]

I feel really bad how Renly died, man. I enjoyed his character very much and he's definitely my favorite of the three Baratheon brothers.

[@AtlisDe]

yea, him and robb stark definitely had potential to become really great characters. From a narrative standpoint it works well for the story, but at the same time the characters become likable that you wonder what they'd do if they were still around.

[@yunggpacino]

Renly was a sissy and had 0 fighting skills or respect.

[@pakshalbagrecha9074]

Stannis was the best of all

[@fanelemabaso2514]

@@AtlisDe i think they were both hirrible decision makers. Both dumb kids overhyped by the resources at their disposal.

[@rhysoneill7399]

Renly was a traitor.

[@honkhonk8052]

“Is he a ham” has me crying for 5 mins help

[@arksine]

The words "Ours is the fury" is quite awesome!

[@ijokesolo]

To be fair, he hit her that one time and regretted it. The abuse was mostly emotional.

[@why8476]

And Cersei cheated on him.

[@blitzkrieg2928]

Cersei deserved it

[@04nbod]

And even then it was a two way street. Yes, Robert never loved her but she reacted by boinking her brother and trying to usurp his bloodline.

[@MrCiqano]

He didn't hit her, he honored her.

[@somebodyactually1490]

ijokesolo in the books he would repeatedly rape her while he was drunk and it was mentioned that he hit her more than once.

[@xelirate2669]

S T A N N I S T H E M A N N I S

[@gatfatf]

"The Baratheon's mercurial temper is as fierce as their home" *shows Pyke instead of Storms End* wrong side of Westeros homie

[@gooby214]

Ah yes, King Stannis Greyjoy the Crow's Eye.

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

Problem is that Storm's End was never onscreen in the entire show.

[@protoncoccus3229]

Boom wrong artwork

[@gent9358]

I miss Robert Baratheon. He wasn't a great King but a good person at heart.

[@EpicMorgana32]

i mean....he wanted to kill baby dany....so not super pure

[@joelc17]

Well I think killing a baby Danny was probably a good idea

[@EpicMorgana32]

@@joelc17 i mean now sure. but thats because d and d like rushing character development.

[@gooby214]

Killing kids is not so horrible in the standards of nobles here. Even Stannis considered putting a whole island with civilians to the sword at some point in the books, though he changed his mind.

[@holypaladin4657]

@@gooby214 Stannis sat there listening to Axell Florent advising him to sack a defenceless Claw Isle after the Celtigars joined the Lannisters, only noting that it would be easy enough and what meagre gains they would get. He then asked Davos what his opinion was. After Axell left, Stannis called him a fool in conversation with Davos: “I shall bring justice to Westeros. A thing Ser Axell understands as little as he does war. Claw Isle would gain me naught... and it was evil, just as you said.” Stannis listens to all of his advisors, no matter how foolish he deems them, but always makes his own judgements and decisions. His teeth were grinding while Axell Florent was explaining his plan; he had already rejected it even before Davos spoke. He only bothered asking Davos’ opinion because he was still interested in whatever Davos had to say. Keep in mind this was a conversation immediately preceding his appointment of Davos as Lord of the Rainwood and Hand of the King, so Stannis, despite his already present trust, wanted to reaffirm his confidence in Davos’ honesty and counsel.

[@artychartybyjackmerlinbruc7134]

Fyi there was a somewhat rational stance for Renyl's claim on the Throne... The seat of the head of House Baratheon is Storm's End (just like the seat of House Stark is Winterfell), and after becoming king Robert gave Storm's End to *Renly* not Stannis. And so this fed into Renly's claim for the Iron Throne: he felt, as the effective head of House Baratheon, he was next inline to the throne that was held *by* House Baratheon.

[@RABartlett]

The thing is though, while the Baratheons are the royal household, they hold that claim via the admixture of Targaryen blood. Historically, the Targaryen heir apparent would be given Dragonstone, and it was not rescinded after Joffery's birth, whether because of Robert's carelessness, or his insistence at giving Stannis a prestigious but barren fiefdom as a white elephant. More than anything, Renly claims the throne through force of arms (Citing Robert's "usurpation") and Stannis's foreign religion (Which is funny, as Red Priest Thoros of Myr was an actual drinking buddy of Robert), and a plan to see Stannis dead on the battlefield, which would render the question of "stepping over" moot.

[@AliKhan-pb8cd]

Stannis wasn't given storm's end bcs he was needed at dragonstone which was last stronghold of Targaryens, Robert needed someone like Stannis to held it not Renly who was a little boy during that time, that's how Renly got Storm's end. Also the seat of heir during Targaryen rule has been Dragonstone, so even then Stannis has a claim.

[@MrrrPiccckles]

I don't think I've ever came across three brothers with such contrasting personalities as the Barratheon brothers.

[@rhysoneill7399]

They are similar to the corleone brothers from the Godfather. Sonny-Robert A switcheroo here Michael-stannis Fredo-renly

[@holypaladin4657]

They are more similar than you think. And the deaths of their parents and other experiences all served to polarise their views on life and how they deal with things.

[@frankenstein6677]

They would be a great king together. Renly on the throne, Stannis as Hand, and Robert as King's Guard.

[@rawreviewsii6044]

Franken Stein correction: Stannis on the throne, Robert as commander of the guard, and Renly as Stannis’ cup bearer.

[@gooby214]

WTF Robert as a glorified bodyguard? NO, screw that. Robert as the Lord of Storm's End and King Stannis's main general. How can you make Robert going to the Kingsguard and make him the most promiscous kingsguard knight in history?

[@rawreviewsii6044]

Gooby I was being sarcastic...

[@gooby214]

RawReviews Never said I was replying to you tho, and Renly deserves to be Stannis' cup bearer for real anyway.

[@luker2693]

@Franken Stein This is my ideal Small Council: Stannis Baratheon - King of Westeros Eddard Stark - Hand of the King Renly Baratheon - Master of Laws Robert Baratheon - Master of War Tywin Lannister - Master of Coin Paxter Redwyne - Master of Ships Barristan Selmy - Captain of the Kingsguard

[@andarax8]

This channel is a little gem

[@coqui9879]

Did they forget about Myrcella Baratheon? I know she doesn't do much, but she still exists

[@kikker_g2747]

Also at 2:15 is incorrect, the sigil and house Baratheon of kings landing where created the moment Robert ascended the throne and wed Cersei

[@skkms910]

I don't know why, but I feel like no one has gone this in-depth with the house sigils before. I thoroughly enjoyed this.

[@wanderingrandomer]

Renly at 3:50 is legit one of my favourite lines in the whole show!

[@edmundboakye659]

Before I was like what's so interesting about this game of thrones but when I started watching this am like this is the best series ever

[@ashleywilkerson7514]

Try a tough one: House Tully

[@stevewinnard-brewer9302]

Robert didn't add the crown when he took the Iron Throne. The crowned stag was the sigil of House Durrandon who the Baratheons supplanted as Kings of the Stormlands, the Baratheons took them over in the same way as the Lannisters took the arms of House Casterly when they supplanted them.

[@Jose_LopezCasillas]

Ironically the Baratheon are descended from the Targaryens. Pretty much making it a feud in the family (Baratheon vs Targaryen), which ultimately brought the house to an "end" as well (Stannis vs Renly)

[@ibraheemriaz4982]

"GO GET THE BREASTPLATE STRETCHER NOW!!!"

[@breezy3392]

00:56 You know Ned was thinking about Jon just then

[@dpraldy3235]

The analysis was thoroughly amazing But i lost my shit when she said "Shireen, who is a sickly child burned alive by her father" Out of all child across Game of Thrones (Sansa blinded by her love to Joff, Joff being a spoiled brat, Bran who was annoyingly stubborn), i wouldn't call Shireen sickly, she advised her father, advised and loved Davos, that is already a much better achievement than any child by her age.

[@robertbaratheon7210]

I learned a lot from this video

[@Brandonhayhew]

King Robert, your the man!

[@crystellejadef.lavador4108]

Robert's penmanship is damn good

[@jbthinker1423]

Renly Baratheon AKA the Usurper.

[@Javetts]

I'm surprised no one made a backstabbing joke... considering...

[@Andre_APM]

Javetts well apparently it was Loras who "swung the sword"

[@BelleroseQC]

Renly Baratheon, the King that should have been.

[@sethgilliam7703]

Renly's sigil should have been a snake, not a stag. He was a traitor and a usurper, nothing more

[@WalshieYT1]

Do house Tarley!

[@Exoneos]

Gendry for the Iron Thrones who's with me ^^

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

Podrick for the Iron throne!

[@saifuddin8571]

What about hotpie?

[@CountingStars333]

I'll put his hammer up his ass

[@Elsneakakaze]

What happened to Renly was tragic, i was rooting for him the whole time.

[@helenbrigham5816]

The Baratheons actually had the crown on their sigil since Orys Baratheon when he decided to take the crowned stag of Durrandon. Idk why the show said Robert added it but it isnt true...

[@WalshieYT1]

Jaime is gonna pressure Tyrion into saving him with the whole "a Lannister always pays his debts" thing!

[@mr.excelsior3464]

My favourite House!

[@theunundunly5368]

Gendry is back and is even stronger than before!!!!!

[@damkota1454]

The deers have horns, and so Robert Baratheon had. They get easily manipulated or rejected by women.

[@painttheworldgrey]

Loving the videos! So glad to have found you!

[@grombrindal567]

I must say, the Baratheon finally came back to their roots. Their founder was a bastard of the Targaryens that was given Storm's End. So now Gendry completes the circle once again, as a bastard fighting under the Targaryens.

[@kristate2180]

Gendry is the only hope that we got. And of course people love him for his personality(kind, brave, lovely, funny af, clever, polite, fury, strong, DOES NOT FIGHTING OVER THRONE.... ok he's much better than any of them.... )

[@user-vz4hj8oh2z]

Robert Baratheon: "I've got SEVEN Kingdoms to rule! ONE KING, SEVEN KINGDOMS!" Well Robert, you should know that there WERE 7 Kingdoms upon Aegon's Conquest (only 6 of which were conquered before Aegon's death). By the time Robert came into power, there were essentially NINE "kingdoms" (actually "regions") which are as follows: The North, The Riverlands, The Iron Islands, The Vale, The Reach, The Westerlands, The Crownlands, The Stormlands, and Dorne. Do you damn homework Robert. You've got NINE regions to rule, one King, NINE regions.

[@sneezystudios5856]

no that is not true. the riverlands and the crownlands never had kings, they belonged to the kingdom of the iron islands. so 7 kingdoms and 9 regions.

[@9822703]

Dorn is a principality , not a Kingdom. the Riverlands and the Iron islands used to be one kingdom under Harren the black. After the crispy pasta of Harrenhal, the regions were split turning the both into Lordships. But even Aegon the Conqueror claimed the title as lord of the 7 Kingdoms, even though Dorn was Independent until 200 yrs later where a marriage brought them under the throne.

[@Razzlewolfflight]

2:08 Interesting how they got the Stark sigil wrong on everything except their sealing wax, apparently.

[@ojroche5217]

I hope Gendry survives. I don't want to see House Baratheon disappear for good.

[@LordBloodraven]

All 3 Baratheon brothers (Robert, Stannis and Renly) combined reflect the complex personality of their great-grandfather, Lyonel Baratheon. He was the Laughing Storm. Like Robert, he was a great warrior. Like Stannis, he respected honor and justice fighting for Ser Duncan the Tall in a Trial by Combat. Like Renly, he was loved by the people, tossing his ransoms earned in jousts to the common people in attendance. And like all three, he was ready to rebel if he felt he was wronged by the current king.

[@tokivikerness8863]

The crown was always there. The sigil was taken from a former royal house of the stormlands. Orys baratheon killed the king, married the kings daughter, moved into her castle, adopted her house words and sigil.

[@1forest120]

I wish there was more of the Baratheon's in the show. I feel that they're very non-important through the eyes of the writers and it shows

[@onemoreturn]

D&D murdered Stannis' character. Fuck the show.

[@ms_scribbles]

You obviously haven't read the books. He was just as much of a power-hungry, whiny shit in the show as in the books. Actually, for a while he was slightly better thanks to Stephen Dillane's great acting.

[@han5944]

3:50 born amid salt and smoke, is he a ham? dude renly have no chill

[@charredtodeath2205]

I think you forgot that by putting a 'crown' on the stag's neck, it is the very thing that chokes and kills them. With Robert Baratheon, his title as King is the reason for his descent (his vices - drinking so much that he ends up getting injured due to the inability to fight back). With Stannis and Renly, it is their very fight for the crown that similarly leads them towards and their action and kills them.

[@empac8631]

Love the Takes videos, one of the most underrated channels on KZbin hands down. I never really thought about Renly’s stag being gold and green as a symbol of his allegiance and being joined to House Tyrel...always just assumed it was because it’s stated a handful of times that Renly’s favourite colours are green and gold, and he’s known for flamboyancy and his luxurious taste.

[@hussainmartins5985]

Nah, renly was secretly getting manipulated by the tyrells, he just didn't know it himself.

[@MegaLiamgaming]

Stannis Baratheon is the one true king of westeros the rest are usurpers and traitors Stannis will sit the throne in the books for sure since the show decided to give his book story line to jon snow LOL One God One Realm One King Westeros has only one king and his name is stannis

[@wyattshelley5483]

MegaLiamgaming true.

[@DavidbarZeus1]

We'll see. Of course, considering the history that GOT/SOIAF is based on, Dany will win the war for the Iron Throne in the end.

[@wenweru1]

MegaLiamgaming I hope he dies in the next book to spite you.

[@yourfriendlycommisar2406]

MegaLiamgaming I am inclined to believe there Will be no iron throne for anyone to claim by the books end

[@user-uq4gr5nl5o]

Stannis is definitely going to lose the battle at Winterfell in the books as well. I don't know why people think he won't.

[@The810kid]

A shame The show made Stannis be as unpopular as possible with the Shireen shit.D&D also added more unnecessary unlikable moments to other characters like Jaime killing his cousin and that stupid Cersei sex scene next to Joffreys body luckily Jaime still is for the most part liked. Stannis on the other hand they failed miserably.

[@ms_scribbles]

Really? Stannis was a shit in the books, always whining about his "rights" and how poor baby isn't loved by anyone. He's just as power mad in the books as he is in the show, he was just better at lying to himself and everyone around him about how he didn't *really* want it. Yeah, sure, that's why he had his brother murdered through black magic and burned his in-laws alive, and how he was planning on murdering his own nephew because he was told he'd get power from it. He was garbage in the show and garbage in the books. I shed no tears for that little manchild.

[@zacky6533]

I miss Renly