2023 BMW M2 (6-Speed Manual) - POV First Impressions

Filmed by ‪@DailyMotor‬
MSRP: $62,200
MPG: 16 city / 24 highway
Horsepower: 453 hp @ 6,250 rpm
Engine: 3.0 L 6-cylinder
Curb weight: 3,814 lbs
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[@redvivid]

It's actually funny that the rear seat occupants (if they could fit) get buttons for climate control but the front occupants has to rely on the infotainment screen.

[@otto8228]

For some reason they seem to think that having every single feature on a screen is what we want

[@papa_pt]

some kind of funny that the last gen was smaller yet had much larger rear seats. Same with the 4 series

[@andresmattos7541]

That is German engineering for you

[@goojxue1971]

because a single screen is much cheaper than a set of buttons and instruments.

[@villusive]

tf..

[@Vosovogalsyncope]

It looks better in person! Went to check one out today, beautiful car. Dealer bumped it up to 95K.

[@noobslayer815]

95k is crazy for a smaller M4

[@alexstevens1786]

That’s nuts

[@apsreen5027]

​@Abhi Singh at that point, manual M4 makes more sense

[@albertogonzalez1746]

What state has markups like that

[@Vosovogalsyncope]

@@albertogonzalez1746 Elk Grove, CA

[@whyleo-]

respect to bmw making a manual model.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

They might also come out with a manual Z4 M40i

[@Dyltheboy]

But what’s the point if it’s a trashy manual

[@mfdoom4358]

@@Dyltheboy is it really that bad everyone says its rubbery

[@Chad11491]

@@mfdoom4358nope. Unless you’re coming from a Porsche, it’s a perfectly fine manual. I’ve had plenty of other brand manual cars over the years and the manual in my G80 is direct, slightly notchy(in a good way IMO), and smooth. I honestly don’t understand the rubbery statement. There’s 0 play in the shift knob and it’s really direct. It’s not super short throws, but it’s not super long either. It’s not “rifle bolt” clicky like some short shifters I’ve had, but it’s direct, smooth, and no play. I have no complaints.

[@chamaldealwis9]

@@Chad11491 Honda manuals are superior

[@nah3193]

It's a M4 scaled down like 1%

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

It's just a little shorter, making it look less elegant but keeping the weight. Although the 4 series is so ugly in the front this looks better.

[@andrewrossnagel9433]

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 it looks better until you see the tail lights 🤮

[@LateNightDateNight]

The Topher sounds different and now refers to himself in the 3rd person

[@recursion.]

Get Topher back

[@romb1818]

"Jimmy likes Elaine"... for conaisseurs 🤪😁

[@twobrotherscycleanda]

Rest in peace individual throttle bodies. You will be missed.

[@jayjacaty3009]

I'm starting to wonder if Charlie has some previous HPDE experience. He can really hustle that pile, and his driving technique looked / sounded on point, at least to my eye. We already know Chris knows how to wheel, but Charlie is no slouch either.

[@TheTopher]

It’s true, Charlie is no slouch! Lots of seat time, some lemons racing…it shows 👍

[@obomasinladen]

Just looks like a car dude driving cars..

[@fzr1000981]

As topher like as possible at the open, even the moment of silence and hand gestures...nicely done. Rear end is just hideous no matter how many times I see it. Someone was on serious dope. I might consider it in black for a $5k discount

[@partypat7229]

someone one day needs to make a 6-speed manual electric car. I dont care what it takes.

[@rickie_don215]

The manual always gonna be more fun.

[@mattyoz0]

Apparently it's not.

[@wrblue08]

Fun is subjective. Some people could drive manuals all day. Some will hate it.

[@SN57ONE]

​@@mattyoz0 You drive a Wigo. Yeah totally

[@Stevie4171]

Not in this car it ain’t lol

[@Da__goat]

I'm trying to figure out what actually makes the M2/M3/M4 different to one another. They are all using the exact same engine with slightly different sized turbos to make a difference in power, but they are producing within 50bhp of each other, and the price difference between the M2 and the M4 is more than $40k, for 50bhp? The experience just seems to be the same, why bother spending all that more money for an M4 when the exact same engine exists for much less? The supra is using a similar engine and could likely easily get up to 453bhp to match the M2. The M240 is using a similar engine and could easily hit the same numbers. So I'm trying to figure out what makes each of these vehicles unique? I could see a better argument for the m4 if it was using the v8 engine from the m550 but for the same exact engine it's a tough sell

[@redvivid]

While I understand what you're saying and somewhat agree, you aren't paying just for the engine. The price of R&D, materials and labor cost to build plays a part in price differences between models.

[@igenius8167]

@@redvivid RND is shared, it is all the same like he said. Minor parts in chassis and a few other details, that's mostly it. Pricing is more related to branding, another prominent example is the S-Class which is severly overpriced, simply because it is an S-Class.

[@USERZ3RO]

when you put it like that it makes a lot of sense. you're better of getting the m2 or get the supra. depending on ur needs.

[@noodles9345]

Status man. Like with any upper tier car maker. Most people that buy these cars are older and don't do anything anyway. Its all about looking good.

[@V1perKiller]

have you looked how hideous this M2 is compared to M3/M4? BMW saved ton of money having college grads design their 2 series, hence costs less. I'd pay the extra just for the looks alone lol

[@BrianLouderback]

I only watch this channel for the one and only Topher. Anyone else substituting and I’m not watching.

[@joshuato579]

I like it, underrated

[@vladimirtalijan]

Seems like S2000 is still the best small sports car, also the most reliable :) No 0-60 can compensate for shifter feel or weight.

[@applesauce2856]

Car is almost 4,000 lbs.

[@AmbitBand]

As well as every other european sports car in this range. RS3 is only 100lbs less and no manual option.

[@pol.86]

Such a shame, additional power doesn't fully make up for added weight

[@CD-kx1ef]

just like literally every other new car. Why are people acting like this is something abnormal

[@ultracellez1989]

@@AmbitBand That's actually a compliment to the RS3 as an automatic weighs more.

[@austinobambino1360]

@@CD-kx1ef Today I learned the GR86 and MX5 are 4000 lbs too

[@Slowjo1221]

I instantly loved this car, the dyno numbers made my jaw hit the floor. Great job BMW!

[@hhaste]

The weight also made my jaw hit the floor

[@ryanb8736]

Shocked BMW never fixed their shifting linkages. They need to shorten them up.

[@sanzserif]

The manual has been an afterthought for bmw for about a decade. Great that its offered but hasnt been updated in years 😢

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@sanzserif That's so disappointing. Mazda makes a way better shifter then.

[@gcs8889]

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Without a doubt, and it's really fricken sad. I passed on an manual M4 for the same reason.

[@sanzserif]

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 100% it does.

[@GetNinged]

“carbon fiber roof to save about 10 pounds” like the cars not 3800 pounds anyways 🤣

[@ikromjonakhmadjonov436]

How high were designers?

[@italianstallion3130]

Why cant BMW fire literally everyone in their exterior design department. Clean house and start from scratch- this is just ridiculous nonsense they are putting out the last 3-4 years (or more- but the designs today make the designs from 3-4 years ago look palatable/normal)

[@username8644]

The previous gen M2 was pretty much perfect. This thing now is hideous in every way. (Except for the MT).

[@jetro7349]

Looks like a 3D printed hot wheel

[@hackluster]

The best insult I've seen of this car yet lol

[@arymonem]

Excellent daily driver, that can totally be an amazingly fun car within a split of a second! It really is a total package.

[@Sideways_Singh]

What huge joke of a car the whole point of the m2 was to go back to the real nimble BMW days with lighter weight and short wheelbase but they made it over 500lbs more and much bigger car. Now were gonna need a 0 series for a real BMW again 😂 then after they ruin that one we will need a negative 2 series

[@ultracellez1989]

😂my guy is not happy.

[@bobbybooshay5854]

😂😂😂

[@username8644]

💀💀💀💀

[@kamranscent]

It reminds me of transformers movie.. the shape of car 😅

[@j.3854]

Why is a M2 as heavy as a M4?!

[@albertogonzalez1746]

I wake up. I watch.

[@ChampenErbs]

I need that car!!

[@Leonidae]

Oh lawd that M2 is OBESE! 3800lbs+?! Yeesh..!

[@obey2dmax]

It is ridiculously comical that in this car's 4th gear, you're around 80mph. That's very quick and fast car. 😅

[@zero15150]

If I close my eyes it doesn’t look as bad

[@dylangrieveable]

Looks really good from the front, but the back kind of reminds me of a Honda Civic

[@FL-xc1wk]

manual porsche soon?

[@scottanthony3426]

3800+ lbs???? Wow! Who do they think they are? Acura?

[@Mr1wd]

BMW designer must love the shape of a ruler.

[@benboat4734]

jeeez the rear end looks ridiculous

[@okaberintaro2411]

Still a good looking Lego imo.

[@hashmi1195]

BMW and Mercedes car line ups are so confusing. So many different models.

[@redvivid]

I give bmw some credit. Thier cars actually do look different model to model. All mercs look the same.

[@username8644]

It's pretty simple. The higher the number, the bigger the car. The series with an X in front are the all terrain lineup (usually SUVs / the SUV/sedan hybrid (bmw x6 for example)). Otherwise they are all sedans/coupes. Edit: if there's a d after the number model than it's a diesel, if there's an i then it's gas. If there's an m Infront of the model number like M850i than it's an "m sport" model which means it's in between an M car and a normal car. And obviously if there's just an M and a single number after it than it's the M car for that series of models. Each series has a single M car. So all the 2 series has the M2, all of the 5 series has the M5.

[@jacebeleren429]

As a former ‘17 lbb M2 Manual owner, no thanks.

[@thetechlibrarian]

It weights as much as a cross over suv.

[@BrakRulesAll]

As if the exterior design wasn't already polarizing enough, that hideous "curved display" perched on the dash like an afterthought makes this car absolutely un-ownable for me. Currently have an F87 and I'm the type who has always liked to get the latest/greatest of a car that I really like - but this is a giant step backwards for BMW here IMHO.

[@username8644]

The previous gen M2 was the last real BMW ever made. Bmw no longer exists. Maybe the m850i is still somewhat a real BMW but at 100k is pretty pricey.

[@JBOsurf]

I sat in one of these. It was manual and had the bucket seats with the stupid codpiece. Every time I pressed the clutch in, my leg rubbed against the codpiece. Absolutely useless!

[@hussamsarhan8823]

manual ❤❤❤❤❤

[@joeyv6039]

Can you do a 2023 bmw 330i Xdrive with the Msport package please?

[@jordanrivera5984]

sick video!

[@collinhayes9509]

For the same price I could get 991 911. Would you suggest a ten year old 911, or 2023 m2 as a daily/GT/track car? I currently have an nd2 Miata so either will be a big upgrade (GT wise)

[@wrblue08]

A 911 will give you a very different experience to complement the Miata, especially with the opposing weight distribution. An M2 is just a side step from the Miata with more power and tuning capability. I’d say if this is your first and only sports car, start with the M2. But otherwise you’d want a bit more colour to your collection.

[@collinhayes9509]

@@wrblue08 valid input. My goal is do-it all sports car, so I’d be selling the Miata for the 911/m2. A 911 has been my dream car since I can remember, but the new m2 has the nicer interior and livability. However, when people driving a 911 feels is like an extension to you, that gets me excited in a way I think the m2 never could What a first world problem to have..

[@thunderbolt2000k]

@@collinhayes9509 You wont be exited about the Porsche maintenance costs... especially on a +10year old 911. I would get the M2 and wait until you can afford a newer 911. Just my thoughts.

[@collinhayes9509]

@@thunderbolt2000k I agree, I've been doing more research and the bore scoring issue is what's keeping me away. The reason I want the 991.1, is because it's the last naturally aspirated engine you can get in a 911 (that isn't a 300k+ GT3). I'm probably going to keep my ND2 until we can see how reliable the new G platform is for M cars. Also crossing my fingers that newer 911/Caymen models depreciate more. I'm also considering an Evora, due to 2+2 seats. They are holding their value though, especially GT models

[@swamysez4542]

Get a cayman (981). I had a 981 spyder and an og M2. the difference is mindboggingly. No comparison. a CPO porsche is >>> this car. before ppl hate -- the porsche was a challenging daily after 2.5 years. Now have a 850xdrive vert which is BY FAR the best all around (lux, practicality, performance) "sports" car Ive ever owned. The AWD and rear wheel steering are phenomenal, and you get used to the crappy feedback from the steering with the "butt G meter."

[@OksitusRC]

I want to see an E60 M5 video on this channel.

[@povertyspec9651]

If an aftermarket firm could come up with nice looking front and rear bumpers.

[@jamesj97370]

I don't understand how the new M2/ 2 Series is bigger than the version before, the back seats are smaller than the previous gen. I'm 6ft 1 and could sit behind myself resonably comfortably in my LCI M2.

[@wackit6756]

I don’t get it….they stick the S58 in it and load it up with more weight (almost 3900 lbs!) and it’s about the same performance as the M240i for much more money! I do like the looks of the M2 better but where's the quantum leap performance?🤷‍♂️

[@kimchee411]

This car is for me. I want a manual small GT car with sports car capabilities and fun when called upon. I have a luxury SUV and 997 sports car that also sees track time so this slots in between nicely. Think I'll wait for LCI in 2025 but it's going to be hard!

[@ericschugemporium973]

calling it a cruiser made me relieved. I just ordered one 2 days ago and coming from an 86, I was looking for a cruiser. the 86 is tons of fun but fatiguing as a dialy

[@bosslife3663]

I was told I have to wait a year for to build my own.

[@I53-624]

The screen is so atrocious. I can understand it a little more in the m3 and m4, but in the m2 I wish they would’ve at least left the 2022 idrive. Not much better, but the separate screen rather than the one giant one is way less hideous to me..

[@JCustom]

I keep hearing this stick shift is better than the current m3/m4. Impossible to find one to try

[@fredericksharon7494]

TKS

[@cosmic-tiger]

It looks like they borrowed the front end from Dodge to me.

[@s.a.i.v]

A whole bunch of extra bells and whistles. Literally bellls and whistles is all i heard when the bonnet opened up

[@itumelengernest1173]

Wow great car

[@stoicllc2352]

This or a Mustang? They weigh about the same. The Mustangs independent suspension makes it an agile sports car now.

[@magnesium_subsoil_94]

We're only a few years from "manual" meaning manual HVAC controls 😂

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Apparently the new Mustang GT is lighter than this.💀💀💀

[@ericschugemporium973]

apparently the new mustang s slower too

[@romb1818]

I am curious how these huge dasboard displays will look 50 years from now on, when these cars will be Classics. 🤔🤷

[@Hayden-se9hy]

this or supra for fun factor?

[@prodnxbu]

Supra

[@username8644]

By far the supra. And I love bmw (minus the last 2 years).

[@abcdLeeXY]

Weights as much as a Toyota rav 4 with a design that only Fortnite players appreciates. “The ultimate driving machine”

[@neby_nebs]

it looks like a red lego brick

[@CyberTommyTMchannel]

This dude is giving me anxiety whenever he's shaking hands or moving em away from the steering wheel while talking

[@HailCaesar-lm4bq]

Best fun driver BMW is the Supra

[@madzmadeit]

Ugliest

[@SibRevs]

Long gone are the days of good looking BMWs. What an abomination.

[@badman5356]

The rear design is totally a failure. Even worse with bodykit.

[@jackvance3958]

When the bmw is on with the carbon fiber bucket seats it won’t move the seat forward. I don’t know why this is, they claim it’s so it doesn’t accidentally crush the driver but it has a seat weight sensor so. Bmw.

[@ninjashidan]

Let's take a moment to acknowledge how disgusting the massive screen gauges are.

[@VoidedMedia]

Would a GR Supra be more fun to drive?

[@chrisdafurz]

probably, lighter weight, much shorter wheel base

[@prodnxbu]

Yes

[@username8644]

Definitely. And at least the supra doesn't look hideous and has a good looking interior. Bmw is just appealing to basketball players who live in miami with terrible taste now.

[@Mr988815]

@@chrisdafurz have you looked at the curb weight of 3.0s? Definitely not lighter than 3700

[@umduduziledwaba6769]

too dope

[@brelaxed13]

Then where would your money go? As far as this segment, it's this, an RS3 or a45. The bmw is just a better machine imo

[@gettcouped]

Enthusiasts are broke. BMW is going for the money!

[@nikm4253]

These ///M cars are basically Germany's Mustang GT / Camaro SS, only with more luxury and better handling

[@scottbrawley407]

2023 BMW M2 6-Speed Manual 50 Years Special Edition Coupe!

[@JMan6271]

The car isn't broken in, shouldn't be doing 0-60s, other than that great channel and great vid

[@Eblak]

Why 2 reviews of the same car?

[@ApacheRambo]

Should make your own channel !

[@TheTopher]

youtube.com/@DailyMotor

[@mordredma]

I feel like the true BMW m car doesn’t make sense any more, at their price range there are just better, more pure drivers’ car options. I think a lot of owners of the new M cars are just using them as a daily and never track them anyway, they just happen to be able to afford a M car. I would argue that for the most part, the M performance lineup is the core of BMW right now, they are luxurious, fast, fun enough for public road, and you probably won’t care about that connection to the car that much if they aren’t the true M cars.

[@mitchellcobb4826]

4.9 0 to 60 11.9 quarter mile sounds like the same m2 to me

[@dwade3202]

I really hate the new interior bmw is putting into every car. Same with the new mustang.

[@TRX25EX]

BMW have one of easiest interiors to operate with and that's what matters.... It doesn't annoy the driver and everything customised

[@dwade3202]

@@TRX25EX yeah that climate control seems really intuitive and easy to control while driving.

[@randybrown6709]

The 'infotainment screen' on all of these modern cars looks so ridiculous. Surely there is a better way but they all look the same. I hope everyone that wanted their phone and car to be one thing are happy.

[@PrimeTomi1]

Can you do Honda Prelude next?

[@Icarusz7]

The new M2 is not as enjoyable as the previous model!

[@prazzy4712]

sounds like the f87 comp gave you more of the fizz?

[@mikey10184]

Am i the only one who thinks the M2 looks good??

[@davidbarrett8451]

Yes

[@edombre4637]

i love it too - seen one in the flesh 2 days ago and they look awesome

[@rdadams7507]

Yes…

[@losersquadhd1234]

They put in the S motor and all it did was make this car absolutely useless under 3500. For the entire first half of it rev range the car feels like a 2003 Chevy S10 (at least in manual form). TBH this car was a MAJOR step backwards. I fell like a lot of car manufacturers are doing this, they make a new version of a beloved car that is the worst in most ways, only to continue improving it over a certain number of years, so they can charge more for the car that should've been released initially. I mean we praise them for keeping a manual option around, well I freaking expect that. That is what the M2 is all about, civilized madness. The unsung daily hero for that car enthusiast. No accountant buys the M2, if they go for BMW over Mercedes or Lexus in the first place then it certainly isn't going to be the M2.

[@cyronader]

analog cluster option?

[@js002003]

really was disappointed in the previous gen m2 and the previous gen m3s... If this g87 is half as much of a leap forward as the g80 is from the f80, then this will be one serious contender.

[@bonganimazibuko1901]

Please direct me to the A45s AMG

[@bjj-vl2ut]

this and ct4 v blackwing what is more fun????????

[@itnoked]

I’ve driven the g80 and the Blackwing. Check out reviews on my channel…the Blackwing is way more fun. Much more engaging drive (steering feels really connected & alive)

[@bjj-vl2ut]

@@itnoked i know

[@bjj-vl2ut]

@@itnoked M2

[@cantwinee2765]

Seems like Charlie can drive pretty well! Only constructive criticism would be, maybe don’t mention trying to step the rear end out on public roads. Even if you have the capability to do it safely, it never a good idea to propose that to the public. That’s how a lot of novices wrap their cars around trees. Even for very good drivers, all 4 tires should keep traction on public roads, but that may be just me. Great video overall!

[@christopherwalker6056]

What were they thinking putting those 2 giant squares on each side of the front end?? That takes up all your attention when you look at the front. Looks absurd.

[@armiz5741]

93k at my dealership

[@WhenRenWin]

can you griddy for us

[@supercar2131]

What's going on with the vents in the car? Its distracting meeeeeee

[@Shakeem]

What’s your go pro settings? It’s so clear

[@TheTopher]

The new Hero 11 is awesome

[@Grohss]

bro you gotta stop with the substitute reviewers

[@BrianLouderback]

Agreed. He’s gonna kill his channel.