10 Watches & Controversies We Love To Hate: Rolex, MVMT, Hublot, etc.

[@Every_Day_Adventure]

This "talk and learn" series between you and Marc is one of my favorites to catch, its honest and comes from a regular uninflated personal self interest point of view unlike those guys in Dallas or others like them. They are my "love to hate" buttons for watches.

[@NeoRazor]

TGV you really hit the nail on the head with your comment about how smartwatches have a built-in obsolescence. Without a constant connection to a phone or computer to update their firmware, sync your settings, receive new patches, etc., it becomes useless. The whole reason we love watches is that they're a tool which gives us independence with no strings attached. The way a tool should be.

[@gavanmitchell9095]

Yeah I'm a total tech head... I love it all. I've built PCs for years and love to tinker. Yet I have no interest in wearing a smart watch. I have enough tech saturation in my life that I just don't want to wear it on me as well. I love having something analogue in my life. I do have a Garmin Fenix which only goes on my wrist when hiking (helps as backup navigation), running and cycling. A 'proper' watch goes right back on my wrist when I'm done. I appreciate what the Garmin can do for me, but there's no emotional connection to it, and I certainly don't feel compelled to keep looking down at my wrist like I do when admiring other watches I own and love.

[@NovemXI]

@@gavanmitchell9095 Same here, I work at a small IT company and I’m the only guy who wears a mechanical watch. I understand the utility and convenience of a smart watch, but it’s basically just an extension of your phone on your wrist. I spend over half my workday staring at screens, the last thing I want to see when I look down is yet another screen. Just my personal preference.

[@NeoRazor]

@@gavanmitchell9095 Yeah. Same. I'm a computer scientist, and the idea of smart watches is so obviously predatory. I have tech involved in my life but I know enough to know when something is a security risk and a waste of money.

[@richardbell466]

The worst thing about smart watches is you have no privacy. Someone or something is constantly watching you. Mechanical watches respect the wearer, smart watches are sneaky!!🧐

[@philspencelayh5464]

The overheads of a smartwatch are just too much to bother with plus the replacement every few years. I have a 95 year old pocket watch occasionally I give it a wind and use it for a few days, it just works.

[@FoAmY99]

*someone mentions Hublot*. Nico Leonard: "I sense a disturbance in the Force! "

[@MichaelAshe]

😂

[@harryhirsch3637]

Yeah well, 'Hublonium' is rich! That's like a disturbance in the brain - Trump style! 🤣🤣🤣 (And that actually fits as they are both very loud...)

[@YeCannyDaeThat]

OOOBLO!

[@CoronaTheVirus]

😂😂😂

[@TheTrueHasenfeffer]

Hahaha. Yes!

[@Balaganesh]

Mark: I wear two watches! TGV: I drink from two cups! 😜

[@brandonamaya589]

The point about fashion watches being a gateway to watch collecting is how I started collecting. A few years ago I walked into a shoe store and saw a watch on a leather strap that came with two alternate straps for less than a $100 and thought it was an absolute steal. I wore that watch everyday and eventually bought a few more fashion watches of a similar caliber. At the end of the day I’m thankful for my first fashion watch since it eventually led me here.

[@richardbell466]

Some fashion watches ain't half bad!

[@robertdukes4420]

Me too! For me I always looked at the watches I knew where the highest quality, beginning for me with Goldeneys Omega Seamaster. But I couldn’t (and still cannot) afford one so I got ones I could. It’s only now that I can begin to buy watches that I would like. My first was an skx009J and I love it. I’m looking at the Hamilton Khaki next :) I have a couple of fashion watches, as I’ve learnt more I won’t be bothering again but they’ve brought me joy along the way

[@BigfootUnibrowMan]

I got a Fossil Chronograph for Christmas in high school. I was so excited to have my first "real watch" that wasn't a G-Shock haha. The strap fell apart the mineral crystal scratched up, and it resided in my nightstand, BUT that watch got me in to researching better quality watches and sucked me into the world of horology.

[@cappy2282]

Lol Ya me to my friend. I always liked wearing something on my wrist (I would wear those Lance Armstrong Live strong Nike rubber bands and stuff) but I never really thought about watches until I seen a Lacoste Quartz watch. Then u start looking into mechanical watches and there's something very special about them. (horology). I got a Seiko 5 and A Seiko cocktail time mojito and love them and now have great respect for the hobby

[@hcwm2]

It was a fancy fitness tracker that awakened my desire to own a "real" watch. Now I have two boxes full of mostly affordable mechanical watches and I am setting my sights on some swiss pieces.

[@Inzanti]

This! I actually use replica faces on my smartwatch too 😂 always on display, lots of charging. Also almost all smart watches are also fitness devices, so when he said Fitbit's were okay, I was like ????

[@DoveSharma]

​@@Inzantifitness trackers are a compketely different product only. They may show time as well but their purpose is to track your anatomical trackers. So thats ok if you have a need for it. A watch will not offer that function. Like if you have a phone you can use it as a pocket watch as well. Thats why fitbits are ok. Not everybody has to use a mechanical watch, how will we stand out in the crowd then?

[@joseph_b319]

LOL!!! The look Mark makes when he says "your drinking out of two mugs" was priceless. I just laughed so hard. It was like one of those bad continuity errors in movies.

[@ehuntley83]

The synthwave music in the intros of recent videos has been awesome.

[@theurbangentry]

Thank you Ernest, it's the new Intro for 2021 and 2022. I am so glad you approve, it looks weeks to find the right track. Best regards, TGV

[@lacanian_lifter]

Quite a restrained and sensible evaluation of some questionable brands. I was a bit surprised when I saw the video title, as I know our esteemed host has spoken before about not wanting to “trash” watches he may not like, but this isn’t a bashing, it’s a critique and a warning.

[@watcharc9569]

And the Watch fellas are back! Hello from Italy TGV and Marc! Big fan!

[@jjjfffppp]

This has become my favorite show.

[@TechnoLawyer]

I'm about one more drink away from ordering an ISL-63...

[@jjjfffppp]

@@TechnoLawyer i dont even know what isl reference i have . But Its awesome

[@jonathancorbett7882]

Isn't it strange, though, how they talk about "independent reviews" when the whole point of Marc's KZbin channel is to sell the watches he "reviews"?

[@TechnoLawyer]

@@jonathancorbett7882 Marc isn't talking about himself. And he doesn't really do reviews, unless it's of a watch he doesn't sell. Marc shows the details of things he's selling in his videos and tells you the price. That's just a watch dealer using KZbin to make a commercial for what he's selling. What they are referring to with the sellers in terms of KZbin is someone like Teddy Baldassare, who has a review channel, but is also a dealer. What they are referring to in the bigger scheme is, of course Hodinkee, which is kind of the mother of all conflicts of interest in the watch world.

[@jjjfffppp]

@@TechnoLawyer agreed Marc doesn't do reviews. And I've bought several watches from him and I can personally attest to his honesty and customer service. I had an issue and they resolved it faster and friendlier then I could have ever anticipated. Hes about as transparent as any retailer can be.

[@Jsong1]

This is my favorite 'podcast'. I want this to be a permanent part of the channel!

[@Podcastage]

I’m curious about your view of “watch journalists” or “watch reviewers” and affiliate links. Do you believe this impacts the watch reviewers independence and impartiality?

[@theurbangentry]

Affiliate links are fine IMO, it's only pennies in terms of revenue, so it can't really impact a reviewers opinion. But again, it's up to the quality of the reviewer. I find it more useful to have them then not as I get dozens of questions daily like: "where is a safe place to buy" whatever watch in question, so it's more about trying to help people find a safe and secure place to buy rather than making money. Great question, thank you and I hope that makes sense. Best regards, TGV

[@styx4947]

@@rossb48 Very astute observation. But the reviewer may not take such a direct approach. He/She could trash it's competitors without reference to thier own product

[@scotthayes2652]

Lost a bit of respect from Teddy after finding out he was a Tissot affiliated and trashed a watch no make the Tissot come out better.

[@TheSrAtlanta]

Absolutely!

[@tianyuanliu0321]

Good seeing you here Podcast

[@jimlittle5769]

Love it when these two get together. Great stuff.

[@boydmasonlake1995]

You two are really getting better with each show. I find myself doing my own wristwatch check and then settling in, sometimes joining the chat only to remember you guys can't hear me!

[@mookscast]

So glad I found this channel. Learned to discover and love so many watches. Picked up my first seiko not too long ago and love it!!

[@77cjam]

Great video as always. Have to admit I hate the term "entry level" when it comes to watches. You can have many watches be they affordable/expensive or just one and be as much of enthusiast as the next person. Some people do naturally gravitate to higher price piece's, but you don't necessarily have to. Enthusiasm for watches has nothing to do with affordability. Yet many people seem to think it has. That's my personal pet hate. Look forward to the next Collab between you two 👍

[@theurbangentry]

You know what Chris, you are absolutely and I am very guilty of using that term. I'm sorry I used it, even in this video. I will use the term "affordable level" from now on in your honor! Thank you my friend, have a great weekend. Best regards, TGV

[@danielmelendez9943]

the best watch I own is a Casio MTD-110 50M illuminator

[@lucasmendes6516]

Best Friday evening: My box of watches on side, an italian bitter drink and some appetizers on the other, and these guys talking about watches on the TV!

[@richardbell466]

Nice way to chill!

[@pacovl46]

“Bla Blabla bla you’re drinking out of two mugs” 😂😂😂😂 that just made my day! 😁😁😁

[@ashleysmith89]

You forgot to mention the Invicta Men's DC Comics Joker, a masterpiece of hideousness.

[@mariog7213]

@Bull Jax how is invicta a commie watch?

[@201950201950]

@Bull Jax so you're saying to buy a Casio because they're light and small? What if you're not a weakling and you can handle the weight of a watch it's made out of steel? Invicta watches use Seiko movements. I have friends that have had Invicta watches going back 10 years and they're just fine. I feel bad for your friend having problems with his watches but that can happen with anything.

[@giloro85]

@@201950201950 strong enough to wear an Invicta monstrosity? The giant Invicta are not just bulky, they are nasty and appeal to guys who measure their manliness according to the size of their watch!

[@frankdux5693]

@@201950201950 they're horrible cheap crap.

[@rosomak8244]

@Bull Jax Heck. Please never ever forget to mention Citizen if you already went the Seiko and Casio way. They deserve it!

[@Kittyland123]

Thank you TGV for another wonderful conversation with Mark! I enjoy all of these videos because I learn so much from them and this opens my eyes to new perspectives to look at watches! Thank you! Stay healthy and well! Nick.

[@markbyrum4743]

Re: what people say when they see the watch on your wrist: I used to tell people when they gawked at my Accutron Spaceview about the dial (or lack thereof): "yeah, the dial fell out through the crystal." They would nod, and look some more, and then declare, "wait a minute, how can the dial fall out . . . " Fun !

[@gerardwawo]

TGV + Marc from LIW = horological gold. Your chemistry is genuine. Please don’t stop this series. I hate to say it but… some people in the watch community love to hate on: 1. TGV/The Urban Gentry 2. Islander watches I think people simply love to hate on successful people. Well, people are entitled to their wrong opinions.

[@davidtrachtenberg7095]

Before I knew anything about watches, I actually bought a Daniel Wellington. Although I now have many other watches, I still like the look of the DW I have. I got a nice leather strap for it (that’s worth way more than the watch). I fell for the marketing at the time. Channels like TGV and Marc are great for learning about the industry. Keep up the great work.

[@brandonmoore9599]

Both of you make amazing content but your collaborations are my favorite thing to watch on KZbin!

[@85mrtn]

This has become a true horology talk that goes way beyond than just Watches. It's exactly what we need during covid 19. The positivity that shines between these two Gentries is Spectacular. Knowledge, Humility, respect and Humor. I even use this to talk about watches with my English Student and it has been on our lesson eversince. Thank You Mark and Tgv. God Bless You Two Abundantly.

[@theurbangentry]

Thank you so much my friend, I don't really know what to say, but thank you again for the deeply inspiring comment. God bless you too. Best regards, TGV

[@jamesmckeown7068]

@@theurbangentry Great Show as ever, Horology goes beyond watchmakers, Alchemy and Rituals come to mind.Keep up the great work.

[@chazfromtheburg]

Two of the best guys in this arena. Always enjoy your joint productions. I'd have to say that my least favorite watch is whichever model is being hyped the most at any given moment. Love your channel TGV! Keep up the good work!

[@TheShane209]

Oh yea I’m so happy, just finished a podcast and was hoping for this today. Thankyou TGV and Mark for doing this!

[@josemedina1983]

You guys should just merge into one channel. Even my wife who can care less about watches said you guys have a great chemistry and sense of humor.

[@estebanalvarez5829]

It’s always such a treat to see these two gents discuss watches. I’ve owned several smart watches and I can’t seem to feel a connection to them. 9/10 times when I leave for work in the morning I’ll have on a traditional mechanical watch. Interesting that you discussed marrying a smart watch and traditional watch. I recently saw a friend with a Movado connect 2.0 which is essentially a smart watch made to look like a traditional watch. I find it very interesting that Movado being a fashion watch now a days is trying to capture a buyer that likes the look of a traditional watch, with the benefits of a smart watch.

[@philipturner8745]

Really enjoyed this episode and super impressed that you got through a 'bash' video without mentioning TAG Heuer! :)

[@younusimam-thesalamproject6340]

Crazy that Daniel Wellingtons are sold for $4 wholesale. Imagine the unit cost....

[@richardbell466]

I know! That's like 50c a watch? $4 wholesale, then approx. $200-300 retail! Daylight robbery!

[@ryanpeck3377]

They cut out the middleman (which just means more profit for them, no savings for the consumer)

[@kellypaws]

Yeah, who knew they cost that much for terrible tat?

[@hawkeye454]

One of the finest shows on KZbin. Keep it up lads!

[@theurbangentry]

Thank you Wes! Best regards, TGV

[@milosza1384]

I enjoy watching you guys so much! There’s so much passion, enjoyment and also humour in your interactions. I love watching when one surprises the other with his watch choices and stories behind them. Oh, and my least favourite watch brand, since you asked, would be Vincero, since this was the brand that marketed me into buying their $10 watch for $250. But it could be any other fashion watch brand that I would just have stumbled upon, like Vincero. There was a good side to it too though, as I became a watch enthusiast since and started my own little watch collection consisting of 2 Longines (Master Moonphase and Conquest Heritage 35mm) and a Tudor Black Bay Red by now. It wouldn’t have happened if not for Vincero in a way. So I guess we are all bound to make mistakes on our way in this hobby, especially at the beginning. If only I found you guys earlier on… Keep up the great work, always! Kind regards Milosz

[@DGJ96]

Still rewatching the older videos over and over. Awesome work fellas!

[@britannia2129]

Hello Tristano! Watching from a hospital bed, where I am deprived of my beloved watches but I’m being kept highly entertained with your superb content! All the best, Guy

[@theurbangentry]

Nooooo! Guy, I do hope you are ok. I'm glad I can offer some solace during this time. Please get well, thank you for the support. The very best regards! TGV

[@river1duck]

Every time they laugh, i cant help but giggle and laugh along with them. It is too infectious! 😂

[@jimlittle5769]

You can tell they enjoy each other's company. Its genuine.

[@donmanuel8917]

6 seconds in I'm already giggling. 😂

[@SamrayGTR]

I've never seen THAT Seiko Marc has 5:50 and I JUST found out about the Seiko SZSB006 TicTAC Limited Edition... I had no idea. I swear Seiko and their references are all over the place.

[@Ray.J]

I agree with those that are saying this is their favorite show. The chemistry between both of you is great and your enthusiasm for watches is infectious. I hope you commit to doing these joint shows regularly. Honesty is a rarity these days and I love the candor with which TGV and Marc discuss some industry-related issues. And I agree, reviewers should not accept free watches or anything else for that matter. And if they do, they must tell you that up-front.

[@Joss1245]

So fantastic to see you guys back, you were made to work together! Hello from London!

[@theurbangentry]

Thank you Joshua!!! Missing London terribly, hello from Philadelphia. Best regards, TGV

[@Joss1245]

@@theurbangentry London misses you! Cheerio

[@David-nx2vm]

I wear two watches every day; I rotate one from the box and the other is an Apple Watch. I understand the love-to-hate thing, but mine saved my life after a bicycle accident at 4:30 am left me busted up in the middle of the street. The watch detected the fall, called 911, notified my family and got me out of harms way. I’m in my 60s; that stuff.matters. I love my Swiss autos, my dive watches, my Seikos, my F91W, G-shock, my Islander Dress Watch and my “Bush 43” Timex. The Apple Watch is no substitute for any of them. It is emergency comms; there are many just like me. Love both your channels. Hugo rules, and Marc, your “CARC” t-shirt story still cracks me up. Thanks for hours of enjoyment..

[@peterkull8354]

Very interesting David, I did not know that they´re sooo smart !

[@shirtpocketvids5395]

These are the best. Always have to submit a comment to show my appreciation. Great candid talks, always learn something when I watch. Thank you.

[@jroobz]

Never stop making this series 🙏

[@govind90]

Retrowave 80s vibe. intro!! Always love your intro and of course the collab with Marc. ~ Cheers

[@ericp.elfman8167]

Great content as always, but I thought it was worth mentioning that your interactions with each other just keep getting better and better. Great complicity. Bravo!

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Love this one! It’s a great chat! Reviewing a watch without handling giving plus and minuses is not cool!;) Still can’t believe you have a Garth Merengue dvd! Love that dvd;)

[@Smoothablesmoothness]

Mark is good at framing a negative opinion without bashing and throwing shade. I like his presentation, and his focus on watches and not people. He brings up the positivity levels and should be in every video, for sure.

[@jonirwin7316]

Thanks TGV & Marc. Two guys with integrity & character.

[@thisarattr]

Nice one guys! DW always comes up when there is a talk abt fashion watches. What do you guys think abt other expensive fashion watches, lile LV, PRADA and even FOSSIL?

[@itbakkawi]

I enjoy smart watches along with the more traditional watches, but the one thing I do loathe is that bit of planned obsolescence. I actually like smart watches because I can then leave my phone at home, and still be connected.

[@mdunawaym]

I look forward to these every month! I agree that fashion watches are a big peeve of mine. I'm always nice to whoever I see wearing them, but try to show them a real watch at the same time. I can't wait for my Islander white dial Batman to arrive!

[@Dazzc2011]

I subscribe to both of your channels but this is the first time I've caught one of these talks. Amazing!! It's as if we are sitting in the same room as you two just listening. So relaxed, friendly and informative

[@izadimrantan3758]

Hey TGV and Mark, I love both your contents and have been subscribed to both the channels for a couple of years now! Just a question, you mentioned that you do not critique a watch until you've handled it personally, however you also mentioned that you haven't handled MVMT/DW/Vincero watches, how would you know that they're not as good as what they are charging for? Why do watch communities dismiss them so much (other than their prices)? Not here to instigate an argument, but would really love a clear explanation, thanks!

[@quiterioalbertobaezbenitez5739]

Amazing guys... this episode has been really really amazing. When you both talked about the Smart-watches, the idea is that we all are loosing privacy, independence, initiative, we are really entrepreuners on nothing. For that reason I miss those decades where my dad was raised, obviously with less high-tech and medicine advances, but he could flauvoured his freedom with his Swiss automatic Invicta in his wrist while he drove his Volvo 144. In fact, he could start an small company of 80 people working with him... without any computer help!, and last 25 years... what a paradox, where the majority of us are being conducted. Mark was true in the same sense when he said "I like my Garmin as I went running this morning but it hasn't no external connection deployment. I just monitorize my running sesion when I arrive in my computer". I love my Casios, I just have vintage ones: anadigi, G-shock, Solar Tough, quartz analogical, I feel they are all made to help you, giving you some of them a lot of different functions for almost nothing of money, "only to you" they respect the compromise of ones integrity, helping you to make you better, helping you to make you free, helping you to make you independent... for almost nothing of money. Same for mechanical watches but with more solid reasons because a good designed/manufactured mechanical watch you loved instantly and then you purchased -doesn't matter if we are talking about a 100$ or 40.000$- is a reflect of you as well, and this little piece of mechanical ingeniery is helping you too as I have mentioned before. Are like vessels from a distant port, that don't exist any more, but they are still arriving being a remain of a good time. Well, sorry for all this "brick" guys! Saludos!

[@sellsidedream8766]

Two of the most honest and down to earth people in the watch space. Love your work

[@Flowingriver]

I’ve rewatched so many videos because everyday I learn more and more about watches and brands. Always feels like a new video. Thank you for sharing the knowledge you have collected over time. I hope you two continue to brings forth more amazing videos. Love it 🕰

[@flemmingsorensen5470]

Damn, I was supposed to get some sleep - now I “have” to stay up for yet another hour…😉👍

[@jesseprice401]

First off, great show, I follow you both. I think my most hated watch is Rolex. Not because it is a bad watch by no means. I hate that when the average person is talking to a watch enthusiast the first thing they always ask is do you have a Rolex? There are so many great brands equal to or better than Rolex even with a long history. But, that is the only brand that the average person knows. I'm asked a lot of times what a grail watch is for me and I say Omega, AP, Oris, and others, and the person just looks at me oblivious to what they are. Rolex is a great watch but it's not the only watch out there.

[@AsianFlew]

Thanks fellas. Fun watching two watch guys "shooting the breeze".

[@Justin-ml8id]

Regarding smartwatches, I do double wrist. I was the same as you guys, thinking smartwatches are soulless and don’t look good and preferred to wear traditional watches. However, when I was gifted one and started using it, there are certain things that I do like about a smartwatch. To me, the smartwatch is more functional than anything whereas my “traditional” watches are more of a romance. I find the fitness tracking, weather info, virtual assistance pretty cool and handy. So now I’ve gotten used to wearing two watches, although it was a bit awkward in the beginning and especially when I want to stay low-key with wearing an understated watch, a smartwatch on the other wrist just makes it feels overdone.

[@nedflanders3769]

Mr. TGV, I do love your channel, but I have to say, the intro theme is amazing!

[@quinton8614]

I love all my watches. But my most loved watch has got to be my Seiko Samurai PADI (SRPF09). It is my first automatic diver and I just really like Pepsi bezels for whatever reason. I've always wanted one ever since I've seen it and finally got one. It has been an amazing watch! Great vid!

[@everything1023]

Im surprised no-one mentioned a lot of the predatory marketing that higher end watchmakers do, like the 'in house' TAG that was just an ETA.

[@richardbell466]

There's a bit going on.

[@walmorcarvalho2512]

I think that transition to hybrid smart/traditional watches is already underway, although in smaller bumps and steps. I think back in 2009 JLC made a mechanical watch with an integrated fob in partnership with Aston Martin, Sinn is banking on a strap system that lets you wear a Smartwatch and a regular watch on the same wrist and TAG Heuer already has a dedicated line of smartwatches with high-grade cases and materials.

[@jtru8077]

Plenty of people hate on invicta but it’s the most common brand I’ve seen walking about town and I happen to love mine, very comfortable, tough watches with good water resistance

[@glennharris3862]

Love these shows. You guys are the dynamic duo of watches. Keep ‘em coming.

[@kristianfurness900]

I'm going to save this little gem of a video for tomorrow morning, the best way to start a day.

[@1geckobros63]

early morning here today what's better to my morning coffee than this love this kind of show of you two guys marvelous

[@TheThrill007]

Love the show and always look forward to your discussions. Keep it up. That being said, this episode reminded me that Marc lent you a few Islanders. Is that review still incoming, TGV?

[@guglielmolucabambino9739]

Grandi! I was waiting for this moment since the last time. That’s a great way to start the weekend, and with my seiko turtle

[@gavanmitchell9095]

Wonderful show as always guys. TGV, I really do understand where you're coming from regarding reviewers receiving watches/sponsorship and staying unbiased. And I think overall you're correct. I'm sure you don't want to go around naming names, but there's a fairly popular chap from Sydney, Australia who constantly rips into watches that have been gifted to him. I know he's mentioned it before but he makes it very clear to the companies he deals with that he's going to say what he really thinks. There's always outliers though... Exceptions to the rule. I would have to say my biggest gripe in the watch world is Rolex business practices. Not necessarily their watches. Like you I adore the Explorer.

[@brianmsahin]

Good to see you guys together for a new video. Hello from Istanbul on a sunny Saturday morning! Love your comments about Made in China. I will be honest. I got two....out of 15 watches I own. The story. I tried to buy a perfect condition 2nd Gen Seiko Monster. I found €500 for a beaten up one, €1,420 for a pristine one. Just too much. I bought a Chinese Heimdallr Monster homage with a red dial as I didn't want it look so much like a copy orange dial, Seiko never made a red one. Great build, 316l ss, NH36A, sapphire crystal, excellent solid link bracelet, +7 spd, great bezel, lume that lasts all night, It's perfect. One of my favourites. I also got an NH35 based pilot style watch because I wasn't sure if I liked this type of watch so it was meant as a temporary tryout watch. It's so good I just kept it. But there is a lot of rubbish there too, so you have got to be discerning, get to know the makers, the movements, the customer reviews etc. I'll still buy a non Chinese watch first, but if I can't get what I want, or the price is overinflated, why not. Then of course there is the iconic Seagull, which I don't have but will be my 3rd Chinese watch!

[@LeonelCortes]

Funny thing is that I wear a fitbit on one hand and a mechanical watch in the other. currently I use an orient defender II and a Bulova Lunar Pilot.

[@anthonystevens8683]

Fantastic video TGV and Marc, it's guaranteed to bring a smile to my face with your light hearted banter that often carries a serious message. Smart watches are OK as a consumable item but I prefer to be able to glance at the machine on my wrist that has a beating heart (mechanical or quartz, I don't care) without having to twitch my arm in a fashion that I require urgent medical treatment just to find out the battery is dead. Great work guys.

[@ularpadatus]

As for me it's the smartwatch that got me started to learn and love about traditional watches. For example, I downloaded a watchface that has a tourbillon, and then it got me curious about what a tourbillon is and started to find videos about watch with tourbillon, or how does it work, etc. It's not all that bad. Now I have some idea of what kind of watches that I like (Like Hamilton, Junghans), and I have a list of watches to get later.

[@jfilm7466]

I try out watches on my Smartwatch before I buy the real version. But it is so cool to design our own watch faces and instantly have them on our wrists.

[@ExpeditedProductions]

Finally got to sit down and watch this. Writing my comments as I watch with my son. Grumman most definitely is known for the Tomcat, but were prolific in WWII and Korean conflict from which most of the Lunar Module engineers were recruited. The US Navy now utilizes Lockheed Martin F/A-18 Super Hornets at US Navy Strike Fighter Weapons School (TopGun). The Damasko looks super sweet, Marc! Loving the Dr No sub....still waiting to get mine done...definitely a inspiration. I had never heard of the Freak and truly enjoyed learning about that....22k is not horrendous BUT definitely insures exclusivity. CANT HOMAGE THAT! The two mugs....TGV....I almost lost my coffee...Wow! Hublonium?.....no..just no. Vincero 😤🤢 Leopard Daytona...bad then...bad now Smart watches become they become obsolete quickly but I mostly dislike them because they are interconnected social communication devices. A watch is a stand alone tool. A smart watch stops being useful if the inter webs are available. A wrist watch needs nothing but me. Most loathed watch.....Fakes (love well made homages ....hate blatant explicit fakes) smart watches and fashion watches, lastly watches worn by people who just want to look down at others but who know nothing about their watches....only want it because they have FOMO or are just showing off Great job guys. Thank you so much. Onward and upward!

[@astrogen1960]

Smart watches also have to be charged up all of he time . . it's smartness doesn't last without constantly paying attention to it. To me, a watch should be serving it's owner, not the owner serving the watch. Plus, if you can't recharge it for some reason, suddenly you'll have a "Dumb-Watch" staring blankly up at you . . it's Flowers For Algernon, played out on your wrist!

[@cameronkrause4712]

Your video helps make the watch thing fun- I like the way you keep it light. The quote in Italian was cool.

[@ultraluxeest1991]

Cheers fellas! My night time viewing sorted, I raise a glass to ya both! Agree with everything.

[@DrkRydrProductions]

I first wanted to say I just love the Passion and Information from your channel Thank you so much. I so enjoy you and Marc sharing your love and helping us newbies avoid costly or wasteful mistakes. I do hope I don't get much flack, TGV is Movado a brand worthy to own under $500 ? Though Marc always sporting those stylish Islander Watch's has got me thinking I should add one of those instead and knowing his passion its a win win.

[@botezsorinconstantin]

Wow, like and now let's seeeee!!!! Good to have you back Marc! Thx TGV for this new video! 😍🙏

[@ajdigifuture4910]

This may be one of your best episodes with Marc! Great Stuff!!!

[@michealhoulihan513]

I always set time aside to watch and enjoy these shows you guys do,they are always a lot of fun.keep them coming,thank you

[@Kasaner]

Where’s the Dino? TGV darling he should have his two cents in these topics

[@theurbangentry]

LOL Thank you Jose, I will pass along your best wishes. After the last video Hugo, is busy filming the new Jurassic park movie ;-) Best regards, TGV

[@dparis2172]

TGV is not like the others. When he says he'll pass along best wishes to Hugo, I believe him.

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[@ShawnKitchen]

I'd never even heard of Hublot until I saw that they were sponsoring Johann Zarco in MotoGP in 2020. Shows what I know. "Definitely a Marmite watch" - I'd have to agree with that sentence. When I looked at Hublot's website, I didn't see anything there that caught my imagination. I'm not knocking their overall quality or anything, I'm simply saying that I found their style to be a bit... brutalistic? It's hard for me to envision the designs enduring time very well. They leave me feeling that Hublot's primary goal was to be different, with long-lasting style not being a consideration. Just one man's opinion.

[@davidcooper4430]

can you recommend a watch winder, and can you run a single watch on a dual winder?

[@SilentBobMarley]

The Nic Cage watch.... That's some pimp stuff right there! I remember some 10+ years back when we still had TV magazines to check what to watch in the coming weeks we had Mr. Cage on the cover rocking the Leopard. Gave the impression of an elegant crazy person and actually that made the watch look cool to me even if it's not my cup of tea. 😎

[@justingarnick6021]

I picked up my first entry luxury watch today. A BB58! I’m over the moon with my purchase

[@Andrew.W75]

I own the navy blue one myself, they are a great watch & have the proportions of a vintage Submariner, congratulations on your purchase.

[@tiote_paris6106]

Great show as always guys despite you straying away from a top 10! Just noticed the Matt Berry sticker on your laptop too TGV! I'm a big fan myself! I wonder what kind of watches he's into?

[@michaelriera6277]

The Two Amigos! What a great way to end the work week...Thank you!

[@davidwck211170]

Morning guys from M'sia. Another of my hour entertainingly well spent. Glad to see you both well, Best Wishes and DO Stay Safe.✌️✌️✌️

[@deadmansshoes]

Seiko White Night, geez, I want to time travel through the 4th wall and make a deal!

[@rg1283]

One of your best episodes ever. A greatly enjoyable collaboration!

[@freddie8354]

I used to double wrist mechanical on my left and fitbit on the right. Ended up leaving the fitbit because thenonly reason I was wearing one was to track my steps and keep a reminder to move about. Once the tracker stopped working it became obsolete.

[@jxstr]

Your videos are so well produced and educational. Being an enthusiast of watches and other cool items is a plus! 👌

[@luist.1919]

Not a watch related comment… but the museum Marc was referring to is “The Cradle of Aviation.” They have a very cool to scale display of the lunar landing and out in the distance there is an image of earth. Earth being to scale to how it would be viewed if you saw it from the moon. Very cool museum.

[@kennedymcgovern5413]

Anyway, I am 52 years old and this is a paradigm that is at least as old as me. When I was a kid, there was Disco for the masses...but WPLJ for we purists (dated reference, I moved away from New York in 1980). On TV, you had Travis who wanted the station to play the Top 40, but "Johnny Fever" and "Venus Flytrap" were the purists who would have none of it. Moving on to my teenage years in North Carolina, you had Flock of Seagulls and Duran Duran for the masses, and then Guns n Roses and Pink Floyd for we purists. And this dichotomy remains as an adult in the watch community. You have all of those pitch men who "cut out the middle man" for the masses...real brands and youtube guys who refuse to take sponsorships for we purists. You guys are the Venus Flytrap and Johnny Fever of our market segment. Keep doing it the way you do it!

[@paredair]

Shop rental : I’ve thought this about vintage guitar shops...they only have to sell one or two units a month to cover the rent. I imagine it would be the same for Hublot and Patek? They don’t have to sell many.

[@edxponce]

I was photographing an event sponsored by Ulysse Nardin a couple days and got to look at a lot of their watches in person and honestly I understood why they get the attention they get. Definitely one of those instances where you need to look and feel them in person. You say to yourself “I understand now”

[@marsoelflaco5722]

I had no idea that fashion watches like Daniel Wellington, a brand that many people are very impressed with, cost as low as $3.50 wholesale...that's nuts! Nice looking, but very little substance.👍🏽✌🏽