The Apple Car crash | The Vergecast

The Verge's Nilay Patel and David Pierce talk through the weird and winding history of Apple's "secret" car project now that it's officially dead. And later, senior policy reporter Lauren Feiner makes her Vergecast debut to catch us up on the arguments made this week in the Supreme Court about online speech and the First Amendment. #Technology #Podcast
00:00 - Intro
01:10 - RIP Apple Car
27:38 - SCOTUS hears online speech arguments
1:04:50 - Sundar would like to apologize
1:11:01 - Lightning Round (Sponsored by Christopher, not SMEG)
1:13:49 - Humane AI Pin demo
1:19:15 - Google Docs adds handwriting support
1:22:00 - TikTok v Music Industry update
Further reading:
Apple’s electric car project is dead
RIP to the Apple Car, we hardly knew ye
Behind Apple’s Doomed Car Project: False Starts and Wrong Turns
Supreme Court hears arguments on the future of online speech: all the news
The Supreme Court is about to decide the future of online speech
Why Uber and Etsy came up so much in the Supreme Court’s social media arguments
Google CEO says Gemini AI diversity errors are 'completely unacceptable'
TikTok is removing even more songs as music rights battle drags on
The Humane AI Pin worked better than I expected - until it didn’t
Ford offers EV owners free Tesla Supercharger adapters until July
Attention English majors: now you can add handwritten notes to Google Docs
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[@rohithramesh9204]

5G could have saved the Apple Car Nilay

[@jbnelson]

Imagine performing a surgery remotely inside your self driving Apple Car powered by T-Mobile’s Nationwide 5G Network

[@rohithramesh9204]

sorry , I can imagine only on Sprint's imaginary 5G network@@jbnelson

[@reckless1280]

If only it had AI and 8K

[@ItsFreeVRealEstate]

Now I'll never get to drive the apple car in Grand Turismo 7.

[@jonasking3670]

It could be a (paid) DLC in the future.

[@kentslocum]

I think the big mistake was Apple naming the project "Titan." We all know it's bad luck to name vehicles after Titanic--especially after what happened to that submersible. 😢

[@d.d.jacksonpoetryproject]

Re: your comment that everyone is doing the “serious Steve Jobs” impression - I think it’s really Jony Ives whom they’re mimicking (when you think about it)

[@LeeWoods]

Love this show and definitely appreciate it being on KZbin now. I do wish there could have been a longer and more serious conversation about the outrage and anger directed at Google from CNBC and other outlets around the image generation feature of Gemini. It's like no one at the network understands or maybe they do but see no issues when AI generates only white people. It was really disappointing to watch it play out.

[@idot148]

it was always on youtube

[@dacresni]

link to show notes are missing

[@kohlmannj]

One of the funniest Vergecasts I’ve listened to in a long time, and the first one I’ve watched! Hit me up when the “An iconic place for food” T-shirts drop!

[@reallyoldcob]

can you plz do a Vergecast tech setup rundown? mics, preamps, interface, DAW/software, post processing, etc 👀

[@LifeBeautifulMess]

The reality is Apple is not near as inventive and innovative as people are trained to believe.

[@francisyuweh706]

thanks for the great episode! keep it up🎉

[@kylenewton6274]

BRB. Ordering my "Patel 2024. Nerds, beware." yard sign.

[@MihneaStoian]

a PERFECT apple car would've literally been a SIMPLE crossover-sized car with a HUD that goes across the entire windshield and also transparent passenger windows/screens to do AR on that connects with the apple phones in your pocket.

[@kelly_software]

Siri drive me to the nearest coffee shop

[@MaxArthey]

"Here's a webpage I found"

[@kelly_software]

😂😂😂

[@rocketmunkey1]

If you really want a car without a steering wheel, call a cab it's cheaper !

[@ZsoltVajda]

TBH, when you do product development you often you make lo res mockups (out of cardboard, actors, etc) of your concept for others to better understand the thing you're making

[@quintessences]

I need someone to memeify the Apple car story, because I think it’s funnier visualized than thought of

[@jonasking3670]

I always love a good “Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer” reference. I just wish it didn’t apply to the Supreme Court. Gotta get those fossils out of there.

[@mikethecargeek]

Johnny Ive: We need to halt work on a car and start work on a FLYING CAR 🧐

[@Chayoeverett]

I used to think Nilay Talked over Alex a lot, (he does) but seeing this made me notice he does it to everyone. Twin.

[@pidgerooni]

Sending good vibes to Alex, hope she gets better soon!

[@ferretgodowndahole3602]

Obviously wheels should be round. But they should be spheres not the current toruses. An apple car would’ve had spherical wheels, magnetically controlled, allowing omnidirectional rotation. Sliding sideways into parallel parking spots would’ve been so dope.

[@brandonreed09]

Apple has moved into the TV with the Apple TV box and the streaming service. They really should have gone further with their own full television. They still could, especially if their AR/VR goes bust.

[@KennyArmand]

SCOTUS Stuff was good

[@ZimTaylor]

Now thats the Apple Car is put to rest will we finally get to see zpower back?

[@jjjurgensen454]

The wife actually thought it was hilarious and was planned , she has a great sense of humor , was not a negative thing at all to them

[@ralphpanhuyzen7861]

What if the Apple car would have been some mysteriously, yet effectively working DEVICE... instead of the monstrosities we see today that have become their own 'people immobilizers' since they get us stuck in traffic?..

[@username-ow3lf]

I just saw in your store you guys are selling phone wallpapers... seriously?

[@Renull55]

Try to play off the Alex replacement is hilarious! We all know her commentary has been utterly lackluster and it's about time a change was made.

[@Navierstokes256]

Who cares about a car that is only rumoured but never revealed lol.

[@ByrdNick]

Misinformative headline, no?

[@noahm638]

No 😂

[@trentbosnic]

I love how their derangement against Elon prevents them from giving him any sort of credit for successfully building a car company (let alone an innovative one) when even Apple couldn’t even do it

[@snowballeffect7812]

They've repeatedly given him credit for this on multiple previous episodes lol. Love the ironic comment, though.

[@trentbosnic]

@@snowballeffect7812 Really? I haven't heard Nilay speak positively of Elon in the last 10 years, The Verge still shits out an anti-Elon article every week

[@snowballeffect7812]

@@trentbosnic Oh, yeah. That's because Elon is an egomaniac who didn't earn any of his wealth through his own merits. That doesn't mean they don't see the success of Space X and Tesla. They regularly talk about how Tesla really pioneered and pushed for normalization of EV's. That doesn't mean they need to talk good about Elon, too, or give credit where not much is due. He was a great hypeman, but now he's not doing anything really useful.

[@trentbosnic]

@@snowballeffect7812 Lmao, enlighten us as to how Elon didn't earn his wealth

[@snowballeffect7812]

@@trentbosnic the same way i didn't earn my wealth lol. The vast majority of my net wealth is from investments. Elon the emerald mine owner's successor has tremendous amounts of capital access and has bought his positions on most of the companies he's on the board of. He has no patents to his name as far as I'm aware.