Tesla Roadster and Fisker Ocean Updates?

Marques, Andrew, and Miles sit down to talk about a wide range of topics including the Tesla Roadster, Apple cancelling its electric car, some Apple Vision Pro headsets cracking, and the Fisker Ocean video Marques made. Then we wrap it all up with trivia and a debate about egg dishes. Enjoy!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:03 Ludwig shoutout
02:34 Tesla Roadster Updates
30:32 Apple Car is No More
38:44 Trivia Question
39:42 Visible (Sponsored)
40:43 Apple Vision Pro Crackgate!
50:39 Finewoven Mess
53:07 The End of the Small Zenfone?
55:49 Andrew Changes his Daily Driver
01:01:22 Trivia Question
01:02:10 Ad break
01:02:14 Fisker Ocean Full Story
01:28:15 Trivia Answers
01:39:50 Outro
Links:
Ludwig and Neal Mohan Interview: bit.ly/3UZm5Sj
Colin & Samir x Ludwig interview: bit.ly/3IliOWg
Mark Gurman Apple Car: bit.ly/3TskZ0B
Gizmodo Crackgate: bit.ly/48wX3gx
NBT Jacklyn Uses All APV Apps: bit.ly/49tSxAO
Joanna Stern Newsletter: bit.ly/49OsTqR
Finewoven story: bit.ly/436qp4n
Fisker Ocean Review: • This is the Worst Car ...
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[@Gobbyi]

WE UP PEOPLE OF THE INTERNET

[@how.to.do.stuff.101]

hi

[@nighthawk8412]

I agree with Marques. Pie is better. It's also much better than cake. There are more varieties of pie. And there's even a non food version of pie (π). Cake and quiche cannot compete with that. Also Portal has shown me that the cake is a lie.

[@nighthawk8412]

​@@Kekis14 Thanks.

[@AV.Creative]

I’m late today 😭

[@AV.Creative]

EEEEYYY I was finna write the cake is a lie like four times till I read till the end lol

[@ozzi2856]

really cool of Marques to bring his son on the podcast

[@abishop3875]

It was bring your kid to work day

[@none_the_less]

Plot twist: Miles is 41

[@darknesswithin0]

Marques: If you ever touch my friends or Miles or Peter, I would make sure that your dear Vanessa... Fisker: I ain't no Wilson man!

[@marcocom6963]

@@none_the_less thats conceivably due to a complicated story involving a used prophylactic and a time machine. i get why they would just always talk around the subject, really. :P

[@xXxkoedxXx]

LMAOOOOOO

[@AbandonedRaven]

I like how everyone is matching their laptops.

[@user-qi3hf8ko3q]

lmaoo true

[@The_Silver_Lurker]

I love that we've been rotating the hosts and having Miles on for more car focussed topics makes total sense. Keep up the great work!

[@charlesdamien5849]

I just love that Miles and Marques are so into this that they just have the most random ev specs memorized like specs from sports players

[@pr33tu_]

Lol, memorizing specs of products is a lot better than memorizing sports player stats... why do you care about another man/woman so much? It's 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🌈🌈🌈

[@braziman18]

@@pr33tu_ this is the worst take ever and you still have time to delete this

[@AyukaAmameth]

​@@pr33tu_wait what

[@rosskrt]

​@@braziman18lmaooo

[@zyork24]

What the f*ck is a frittata? -Marques

[@IanZainea1990]

A crustless quiche. - WTF is a quiche!? :P

[@antiestablishmentarianist]

@@IanZainea1990 how to say you're American without saying you're American 😂

[@filippocalcagno5393]

Pie shaped omelet bro

[@MadisonFalco]

the ":P" is an implication of sarcasm @@antiestablishmentarianist

[@antiestablishmentarianist]

@@MadisonFalco 😬 my bad

[@christianbaird8800]

I love that arguably the best part of this video was just chaos about eggs

[@Zazi_Ndebele]

Not even arguably. It WAS the best part

[@thesimpostor6251]

Gonna be incorporating "what the f*CK is a frittata?" Into my everyday vocabulary now

[@st1vxtr1m]

I read this comment before getting to that part and I was thinking to myself "no way anything is better than the FUD SPREADING MKBHD" and then I got to the eggs part and bam - you were right!

[@jds4k]

Ellis: "I don't know enough about glass." Zack: "Glass is glass, and glass breaks."

[@jackmorales981]

Hearing Marques saying "what the f*** is a frittata" just made my whole week. I need that as a button i can hit every now and then. 1:33:27

[@zach7139]

Anyone else notice at 16:10 a blurry box that existed for a few minutes on screen?

[@ebuke]

I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t crazy too. It keeps shifting around to random spaces.

[@imkuat]

@@ebuke it seems like the blur effect is tracking only the movement of Andrew and Marques.. strange tho. it seems like it was to blur whatever order details of the Roadster at 21:38

[@dylanlee5342]

Camera is raciest

[@tonydegraaf2132]

@@imkuatah makes sense. I think they simply missed it before uploading.

[@gagnarork]

That was the oxuf coquette

[@DivyangM]

Knowing Miles is there and still expected "And Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii'm David" at 0:32 LOL

[@PeterRock007]

I wasn’t ready for Ellis to drop the “ouef coquette”

[@bingbong792]

The way he says it in his accent got me - "oof cockett"

[@woob31]

It's 'œuf coque' and I heard him saying it 5 times without understanding that's what he wanted to day. And a quiche has no crust in the top....

[@bingbong792]

@@woob31I assumed he was referring to oeufs en cocotte

[@XxxXROUGEXxxX]

I'm French and that was very funny 😂 I think Ellis is talking about œuf à la coque but it means boiled eggs not fried eggs which is œuf au plat. And Ellis you're right, la quiche lorraine c'est très bon !

[@purujitkulshreshtha2211]

Thanks for dropping the spelling, fam... I can finally Google it.

[@KertleyVeira]

Ellis: "apparently I'm the only one with an ounce of class" 😂😂😂😂

[@Sbrnsandy]

we need every member of the studio on at least one episode of the pod

[@osamakhatri]

Yuss that'll be really greatt

[@alatmancave7093]

garbage show for nerds no thank you

[@samuelkibunda6960]

@@alatmancave7093 then why are yo watching it?

[@alatmancave7093]

@@samuelkibunda6960 because I test drive a Fisker and it was a great car and put deposit to buy it and this guy is trashing the car for no reason .so I think he is paid by competition EV to do it .

[@enadegheeghaghe6369]

​​@@alatmancave7093so you are watching the podcast and adding to his views because you are butthurt by what MKBHD said about Fisker? That's wierd

[@albeerahman]

Miles is the chillest guy on this planet, PERIOD.

[@jondevansky186]

I'm a Fisker Ocean One owner. The review was mostly spot on. Some of the annoyances were fixed in later software updates that the vehicle you reviewed didn't have (1.10 and 1.11). I honestly really like the car though. I've driven the newest X5, X7, Alfa Romeos, and enjoy driving the Fisker even more. I feel its just unfortunate that Fisker has constantly been in catch-up mode. My current hope for them is just survival, and if they don't survive, that another OEM will buy the company. Personally, I think their current situation is 50% bad management, 50% market circumstances (high interest rates, glut of EVs on the market).

[@GodlyAwesome]

Pretty sure Audi owns fisker

[@Turbomgzt]

HF lied always. Shares now 42 cents. Q4 2023 report proves Fisker dead now.....again. Get over it.

[@EoRdE6]

​@@GodlyAwesome Nope, fisker is independent. Audi doesn't own Audi though, they're part of VW.

[@maxdimes5719]

Glad you said this, The Fisker Ocean community was on defense after Marques review was released, "Affirmation vibes." Funny enough, other car reviews, (both bigger and smaller channels) have very similar sentiment and opinions on the vehicle.

[@aktm1407]

Excited to see how the Fisker Pear will be received and if it's too early for them to release another car

[@jdselders8010]

You guys didn't have to leave the whole quiche argument in the edit, but you chose to, and it was hilarious.

[@iamshikhersrivastava]

MKBHD is my favorite egg KZbinr. Can't wait for the review of Eggs Benedict on the main channel. 🤣

[@Archetapp]

1:01:33 - "Ever" Andrew letting his true self shine. LOL

[@Artytanium]

He always comes in with the funniest jokes out of nowhere

[@hilliard665]

"does it charge upside down?" 😂😂😂

[@waiitwhaat]

How did everyone miss that joke? 😂😂😂

[@TechSpaceCowboy]

I love that your car guys name is Miles. Marques with the top-tier puns.

[@collins_channel8643]

Milles needs to be a permanent addition

[@subbu6572]

I like how all the hosts had matching outfits with their laptops haha.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Like an episode of Daughter Swap, Mom Swap, Sis Swap, etc. 🤣🤣🤣

[@pisse3000]

"Hey Miles, do you happen to have a pink t-shirt? Oh, no reason"

[@travelingtriathlete446]

I'm glad you're finally doing the hard hitting coverage of eggs and egg based dishes

[@SourMango99]

Dude Andrew is right you guys gotta get Ludwig on! Talk about KZbin, streaming, tech around streaming, and his takes on tech products. That would be sick!!!!! ❤

[@DrFungus]

Should've ended with "Catch you on the next one.... Quiche!"

[@o0Dan0o]

A few thoughts as a Fisker Ocean owner: 1) I would wait for OS 4.0 for a follow-up, if they get it out. There's a lot more coming, and I'm assuming a lot more fixes. They said that could be as soon as summer, so I figure just wait 6M and do a follow-up with whatever's available. 2) The key fob is crap, but they say phone as a key is coming... I agree with your position that you judge a car by what's here today 3) On the carwow solar figures, I wonder if that car has only been tracking solar generation since it got the V2.0 update. If so, that would explain the low solar generation. Otherwise I generally agree with everything you said here and in the review. I personally don't mind not having a glove box or the small vanity mirrors, but that's just personal preference vs the objectively (and actually) bad elements of the car that you called out.

[@KyrosX27]

Next week's trivia is just Ellis with a buncha different egg dishes and the trio guessing which is a quiche, which is a frittata, and which is -a pair of sony headphones- -ouxfh caughette- an oeufs cocotte.

[@ClickbaitMotorsports]

Andrew has the wildest one-liners..."Something landed on the moon?". 😂 Great ep, y'all.

[@RandySloan]

When you guys kept saying Started From the Bottom I was also one of the people just waiting and waiting😅😅😅

[@sageakporherhe783]

First time i ever heard marques swear, even tho it was censored. haha, I love it!

[@godbeforeme]

I would totally watch the crap out of a Studio video of you all trying and trying to make egg products. See who can make the best eggs Benedict. This trivia section was so chaotic and I love it.

[@Breen933]

Hope you do the 2.0 update Fisker video! Btw, the Sport and Ultra trims that have started deliveries are significantly cheaper. Sincerely, a happy Ultra owner.

[@btntv]

Hope so 2!

[@alatmancave7093]

he wont he got paid to destroy Fisker everyone knows his review of Fisker Ocean was solicited

[@starstuff11]

Yes! Get Ludwig on the pod. Will love to see that :))

[@TotallyHonestReviews]

They should switch places again, Marques was so funny and cute pressing all the sound buttons 😂😂😂

[@indigojazz]

Yes! 😂

[@11abhishek11]

Please no! The standard of the pod just collapsed

[@rzee4331]

The phrase "Real men don't eat quiche" originated from the title of a book published in 1982: "Real Men Don't Eat Quiche: A Guidebook to All That Is Truly Masculine" by Bruce Feirstein. The book is a satirical look at stereotypes of masculinity, poking fun at the idea that a "real man" should avoid anything perceived as unmasculine or a sign of weakness, such as eating quiche, which is essentially a savory pie made from eggs, milk or cream, and cheese, often with other ingredients such as meat, seafood, or vegetables. Feirstein's book was a humorous take on the rigid and often absurd standards of masculinity prevalent in society. By using quiche as an example-a dish that was becoming popular in the United States at the time-the title highlights how arbitrary and limiting these standards can be. The phrase quickly entered popular culture, becoming a shorthand for critiquing outdated notions of masculinity. Despite its satirical origins, the phrase has been used both humorously and seriously in discussions about gender roles and expectations.

[@godminnette2]

The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" of gender theory.

[@InsolentTech]

That reminds me of a guy who wrote a nutrition book and made a joke about there being "breatharians" who get all their nutrition from the air and light. It was just a short and obvious joke in a much bigger book, but some people took it dead serious and started identifying as "breatharians". And now there are around 1000 people worldwide who claim to eat zero food and live healthy lives (for clout, I guess?).

[@antiestablishmentarianist]

thank you chatgpt

[@antiestablishmentarianist]

@@InsolentTech in 2020 Flat Earth theory really takes off Breatharians. - hold my air

[@adamjones6941]

The ESR cases are incredibly well built for $19. And they don't yellow or crack.

[@heyfrancis3332]

Happy Friday good people last week almost 80 degrees today in ATL.39 and rain all day😅

[@RyanShaferfeifei]

Miles is a great addition to the podcast. He should be on for automotive talk more.

[@jamesfstokes]

I really enjoyed all the commentary about the different egg dishes lol.😊 I have also never heard of oeufs cocotte but it was hilarious hearing all the reactions to that unusual name

[@arro-pie]

TWO WORDS: MORE. MILES!

[@hectordelatorre4589]

Nah, bro. More episodes with Ellis and Adam as hosts.

[@n0tHiNg0139]

Nah one more apple sucker

[@peteo4328]

1:33:14 I get sad when ya'll announce trivia as the end of the video nears but then come up with great moments like this that legit make me laugh out loud 🤣

[@g3johnston]

If people are getting all bent out over the Fisker review, it’s because they are blessed to have a life with mostly trivial issues no real hardships to put life in perspective. We are truly fortunate.

[@eggsrsweet]

Ludwig would be an amazing guest to have on the pod.

[@FTFO_Media]

Adam channeling his inner Cleetus McFarlane with that “hell yeah brother!” Haha

[@davidc4162]

The cold gas thrusters aren’t as much of a rocket as you guys seem to think. This is essentially a pressurized nitrogen tank and some nozzles. Piping to connect them and valves to control them. You can try a DIY version by sitting in an office chair and discharging a CO2 fire extinguisher. Definitely loud but not remotely close to a jet engine or combustion rocket.

[@TimCortesi]

If you pressurize a bunch of air into a tank and then release that air out really quickly, you end up with a rocket. (The Mythbusters did a nice demo where they made an air tank sized hole in a concrete wall by doing exactly that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWXOk2BueM-Jj8k) Obviously SpaceX has some specific knowledge about how to design optimal exhaust nozzles, build composite overwrapped pressure vessels, work out thrust vectoring, etc. But at the end of the day, the physics involved isn't a whole lot more complicated than shooting a hole in a SCUBA tank. Regarding the sound, I expect that the obligatory compressor pump which will likely need to run for a good 30+ minutes to pressurize the tanks will be louder than the sound when the thrusters are firing.

[@U2haveaniceday20]

AmazingPodcast, Always Enjoy Guy's. ✌️💯

[@Superninja71]

The egg portion was amazing and hilarious

[@hanludoyle]

That oeuf cocotte convo at the end was hilarious.

[@GreenShellShock]

I never would've thought a discussion about quiche would be so funny

[@SaberX009]

2024 is just getting better i love this podcast /Show!!! BRING MILES BACK!!

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

[@snowballeffect7812]

48:30 arches are strong under compression, but the expansion would mean that the arch is under tension which is 100% leading to instability/damage. it's like if you tried to do a split and someone pulled the rug out away from you on one leg.

[@stevenichols4639]

Ellis. I’m with you buddy I’ve had a frittata I’ve had oeuff coquettes. I’ve had quiche both with and without a crust. You’re also correct that it’s a great way to get a high good protein with a Smithering of carbohydrates, which would be great for an athlete

[@thelegend-e7919]

30:12 Hey Ellis, to be fair to the car it wouldn’t make any sense to worry about it accelerating at sub second 0-60 rates for longer than literally a second or two. My rough napkin maths says that 7 seconds at 5Gs would have you breaking the speed of sound. Plus it would need a massive tank of air to achieve this, at which point it stops being a car with rocket bits and becomes a rocket with car bits. Engineering Explained has a great video on this if you’re interested!

[@thelegend-e7919]

That trivia pause gave me life XD

[@tdot321action4]

Great show nerds! Love it!

[@aliciagilman428]

I spent $18 on a Ghostek clear case more than 6 months ago. It is anti-yellowing. It is still perfect, not at all yellow.

[@Splainte]

As a French, I laughed so hard when I understood what you were trying to say "Oof cacket" 😭😭

[@garrettord]

I’m so ready for another episode

[@sshkeys]

Title had me thinking they were going to talk about Frank Ocean at first

[@indigojazz]

Same! 😂

[@how.to.do.stuff.101]

Let's get this friday started! 🎉🎉 Always a good day when Waveform posts!!😊

[@djberzerk]

Definitely the funniest episode to date for me

[@Krish-2206]

1:05:40 fisker shouldn’t have asked for cash lol, the coverage itself is free advertising in a way. Bad management re-emphasized. Also it could have been a stalling strategy until they get you the right car. Apparently the updates fix most of the bugs pointed out. Earnings went so bad yesterday, the coverage of FSR in this podcast definitely helps their case. Thanks @MKBKHD as always for covering new tech, good or bad.

[@matthewliriano1293]

I think it was the opposite. They were offering them cash to do a review which implies the integrity of the review would be biased

[@user-gn1cl9ix7p]

Fisker wasn't asking for money.

[@37racso]

They were the ones asking how much it would cost, so they were offering to pay

[@antiestablishmentarianist]

I would like to nominate this episode to the goat of WVFRM eps

[@hernankev]

I was listening to the podcast and HAD TO come watch the quiche interaction! Lol!

[@PsychoGallagher]

Great episode! I would love to see Miles on the podcast more often, he's great :)

[@bena461]

this is one of the funniest episodes of WVFRM i've ever seen. yall had me LAUGHING 😂😂😂😂

[@mattjgraham]

It's the weekend, guys, in the UK! And to start! Of course, it's the Waveform. Thanks again guys :)

[@none_the_less]

What’s up Matt!!!

[@katource1]

great show guys I watched to the end.

[@KristiinaKasepaluHarakas]

love trivia and mby next season whole team gets to participat? each week another pair makes up Q :D and all crew answers trivia is the most fun and awsome part of your podcast

[@batterieman3001]

23:54 that would be Dodonpa in Japan. It does 0-180kmh (112mph) in like 1.5 sec

[@MrVaiu]

why the blur around 16:07? there was a rectangle blured on the video (at some point in the forehead of mkbhd)

[@Manganellia1]

This happens to us randomly, but we tried to add a very short blur in a specific frame through KZbin because we already posted it. But then KZbin slowly just grows the blur and starts tracking things randomly.

[@trostfoxy]

@@Manganellia1 omg he's becoming blurry! Quick, save him! D:

[@Leafshinobicaptainyamato]

I wish miles was on the pod more. He’s frequently quite insightful.

[@amirmoazeni7518]

cool shirt Andrew. Love your HASS F1 shirt and now this 🔥

[@JrStocky]

I'm here for the pauses before..... trivia.

[@nevillejames2200]

Love the egg talk and the EV segment of the show 🇨🇦🇯🇲

[@JohnMCPA]

I started AG1 from you. I sold TSLA at $240. Sorry. I only did it because I started buying BTC and its proxys in May 2021 and needed the cash to ride this cutrent train. I started saving for the first time in my life and opened a brokerage account. I'll be exiting the proxies (bitcoin miners, ETFs, etc) (I'm willing my Coinbase held BTC to my kids) when this bull run slows and will be plowing my full package into TSLA. Hoping the cutrent sh prices continue to drop and the timing works out. Even if not, shortly I'm gonna start taking BTC profits and reload TSLA Great videos. Thank you.

[@kellerflanagan3404]

one of the funniest trivia sections ever

[@pegasusdragoondxt]

shoutout to andrew this ep hes glowing literally with the white theme

[@dragonite4242]

More miles his analysis and forethought is brilliant

[@arcstar000]

We need more miles on the podcast!!

[@AhHerPadi]

Can we get David to talk about Fujifilm and his Tokyo trip in a special pod?

[@djdct4]

Still at the beginning does anyone know why there’s a random blurred box on the screen?

[@jackham2549]

The whole thing with the fans to pull the car down is for traction. Acceleration is still a weight to power ratio. If you have the power to weight ratio, then you need things like the vacuum fans to increase theoretical mass (how much force the car puts onto the ground) only increase traction to allow you to use the power. There is a limit to what friction tires can do

[@7-bs]

1:30:00 waveform cooking show ! love it

[@Lord_Reset]

The lidar tests for apple were lexuses iirc Saw them around every once and a while.

[@Squirrel10101]

More miles on the pod pls

[@NathanLewisVideos]

I think that crack could form if you have a large size face piece on a vision pro and someone with a smaller face borrows it and tightens it.

[@rcpmac]

Regarding solar roofs on cars - you should look at Aptera. I think it has significant solar range because of the car’s efficiency. If I’m not mistaken it can get 20 to 40 miles of solar range daily.

[@nigilvalikodath]

Why is the eggs rang my favorite thing on this pod so far 😂😂

[@stevenichols4639]

An engineering terms, the point where a crack starts is, what’s called a stress riser. The bridge of the front glass is a sharp point that’s sort of place where a crack will start to propagate.

[@AM4K418]

LOVE THIS SHOW

[@Kerleem]

What’s being blurred on Marques at 18:45?

[@keepitfashion]

Really happy to see Miles

[@btntv]

I love fisker

[@zen3418]

I can't wait to hear a trivia pause long enough to play another episode while waiting :v

[@MisterSixty]

I've enjoyed this episode more than a Denny's Grand Slam Breakfast!

[@Leanzazzy]

1:33:30 Exactly how everyone feels when people talk about fancy food 😂

[@Ded-Ede]

I’m so happy to see Miles. Miles need more screen time.