They dropped the Biggest Master Duel Banlist at the end of the year

[@twobrosgamers8426]

Konami: Okay. We allowed You to take Circular behind the shed. BUT Runick Destruction to 1 in MD.

[@RuggedRing]

Law of equivalent exchange

[@queenbrightwingthe3890]

I take it. Runick as an archetype was bad from the beginning. Being able to banish half my deck before I get to play should not exist.

[@NuggyPoundy1]

But thats what makes the deck fun ​@@queenbrightwingthe3890

[@seph2686]

​@queenbrightwingthe3890 exaggeration in order to special summon hugin the runick card they use doesn't banish cards. They're gonna use at most 2 more runick cards to get draws off fountain so it's 6 cards max they banish especially with fountain at 1 and even when fountain was at 2 you'd have to have a very specific hand to use fountain twice on turn 1 if it hits your core peices or 1 ofs sure definitely annoying but there is a big difference between 6 and half a deck 😂. Remember runick is banish face up depending on what deck you play you can technically benefit from it kashtira for example banishes face down now that is busted

[@carter5377]

​@@seph2686 pure runic is fine. Runic/Tear/Kash is certified AIDS.

[@qDavid.]

Now there can literally only be one.

[@DuncanHarbison]

If dragon rulers were printed this year they'd have made them each effect once per turn rather than one effect per turn.

[@tripleaaabattery8480]

True

[@zerochill4096]

Yeah Konami beginning to realize how making everything a UR to encourage people to spend for gems would bite them in the butt when said URs are ruining the game and they have no choice but to hit the URs. They wanted to have their cake and eat it too, but now they're being forced to have to settle for needing to listen to player demand for the longevity of the game. This is a really good list!

[@neonoah3353]

Same problem is happening in dl, for both speed and rush. Konami gave us idp, which has become a game changer for the format, but it is already a limit 3 card, and since its a box ur, they cant hit to 2, 1 or ban it, they now will have to hit 1 or 2 cards from every strong deck to keep idp at bay, because they cant hit idp itself. And for rush, they released dragias as an box ur, also limited to 3, this card by itself is a ridiculously annouing boss that upon hit the board becomes priority n1 for the opponent to remove, since it can easilly deal a lot of damage. They could have put it as an sr, or made it f2p, but they didnt think through, or they were just too greedy, and now they cant hit dragias as well, and since its a generic card, it can easilly be dplashed into any deck and become an horribly strong boss.

[@zerochill4096]

@@neonoah3353 That's really unfortunate for DL. At least with MD Konami is realizing that there is a problem with their current philosophy and is taking the steps to adjust it. Did you know that the only reason why Tcboo was semi-limited for the longest time when Gozen and Rivalry went to 1 was solely because Tcboo was a UR? There wasn't any good justification to keep Tcboo at a lighter restriction when it's just as bad as the other 2 SR cards, so it's good that they put that mindset away when Stun was being a massive pain

[@spicymemes7458]

That assumes everyone has the same opinion about the direction of the game

[@Hoshino_Aoi]

The few times they didn't make good card URs are things like Kitkalos an SR, or the 2 smol purrely or even delicious being R. Those kind of things really give me the sign that they are ready to ban it if it ever become a problem and still give us nothing. Those rarely happens but it happened, and I want that to happen more.

[@funandrail]

Because there was no set rotation in YGO, this is inevitable problem tbh. design choice wise, I think that any card that gives +2 or more card advantage (draw/mill/discard or something) should be UR rarity 😮

[@jacobcoates7987]

Hopefully they release a secret pack with all the dragon rulers instead of taking up space in a selection pack.

[@hermitxIII]

After 50 packs I've only gotten a single redox.

[@MateFold]

They could put them alongside the elemental Lords pack and call it a day tbf

[@kiddsmoov7]

They are in the shop now as a selection pack

[@jacobcoates7987]

@kiddsmoov7 I've been ignoring that pack. I didn't even know all 4 of them were unbanned yet lol.

[@peepeevs]

Tbf, they made Delicious Memory a Rare, despite it being the best Quick-play in Purrely.

[@hellblazerhawk6166]

The august banlist had my hopes up and they immediately dashed them. I'm hoping that this is an indicator we will get more lists that actually impact the game

[@jacobcoates7987]

I feel you when it comes to desires. The only deck I really used it in was sword soul. Even in that deck I only felt good about using it when cheng ying was on the feild to get the extra attack and banishes.

[@wokeaf1337]

Everytime using that card in swordsoul was like dont banish protos fingercross

[@kuroneko687]

Man desires makes me so nervous. Those little 2 seconds when you're banishing cards and you don't know if you're gonna get ashed or not. And then if you draw 2 it is very scary to go and see what you have banished. Sincerely, even in swordsoul it feels so weird.

[@SkullEater78]

Vanquish was making great use of this as well

[@jenniferhamels1176]

Even with some of the floodgates getting hit to 1, Master Duel RNG your opponent is going to somehow hard draw the one of that they need every time. lol

[@magician1231]

I played four branded players yesterday, three of them opened fusion😂

[@StraightEdgeSieghart]

​@@magician1231Even if they don't open BraFu, they still have gajillion ways of getting it.

[@Zzz-j2f]

That’s because they give Japanese players better opening hands. Wake up sheeple!’!1!!!

[@kermitthetoad9093]

Konami stole Josh's diary at the last YCS.

[@dragonmaster951753]

Then Maxx c would be banned

[@Dyleniz]

​@@dragonmaster951753 Hey atleast we got circular and agido banned

[@ace-trainer-aj]

Terrortop at 3 is tempting me to pick the Speedroid deck I use for the Legend Anthology and other events and go above the speed limit in ranked

[@ShiroiKiba]

Time to dust off that Clear Wing Rider and Kitedrake

[@gubigubigubigubi]

Konami saw me getting my ever loving ass kicked while I was playing Dragon Rulers vs Lab in the duelist cup. Little do they know this changes absolutely nothing llol

[@nickd6303]

Kinda hoping they put the dragon rulers in a secret pack after the selection pack is gone.

[@draconicepic4124]

You just know they going to add a bunch of filler to make them even harder to pull.

[@Zzz-j2f]

Nope, you have to craft them. Thank you for playing YuGiOh Master Duel!

[@enag7]

I'm pretty sure the change in Chaos Ruler was in part due to Dis Pater coming out. I played against a deck that was using Bystials and lv 2 tuners to make Dis Pater to loop him and make a big annoying board. I don't know if it was super strong and consistent or if they just had a great hand vs my bad hand, but in the game I played it felt like Chaos Ruler was worth banning.

[@magician1231]

I played decks with dis pater and chaos ruler, and yeah I think it's consistent enough to ban it

[@ducky36F]

Putting my cynical hat on I think they just want all the dragon players to whale for the Rulers which very few if anyone would do with basically full power dragon link still legal.

[@iLune218]

I think Branded Regained should also be banned. Dis Pater can be easily reborn without any cost😡

[@Adalon-]

Hopefully this is a harsh lesson for Konami to realize that making EVERY GODDAMN CARD UR LIKE SAKITAMA is a horrible idea and will hurt them in the long run and us in the short run. It's not good for any body.

[@itspeppez8474]

Yeah special i pretty mad that they kash limiting birth instead of Arise Heart now i have 3 Copy for a super bricky deck , thanks Konami.

[@r3zaful]

​@@itspeppez8474but ariseheart isnt even hit in ocg?

[@bomberhood7234]

@@itspeppez8474If I gotta be honest, limiting extra deck cards does almost nothing. But that’s just my opinion

[@smokealot5056]

@@bomberhood7234every play when Omega was at 3 having 3 or 4 cards ripped out the hand turn one is not fun

[@bomberhood7234]

@@smokealot5056 yeah but we rarely get cards like that anymore. I’m glad that omega’s at 1 tho.

[@clement6229]

I mean a friend went Master 1 entirely with Floow this season so apparently wasn't dead xD Don't think Duality was here for Floow but it indeed hurts Floow.

[@Dr.Moogle]

The Duality hit was mostly aimed at Stun. Everything else was incidental. Especially when you considered the OCG, recently put Map back to 3. The birds have been power crept.

[@Hempujonsito]

​@@Dr.Mooglepower crept as in Statue getting banned

[@Dr.Moogle]

@@Hempujonsito In the O/TCG they're so many ways to just not care about what they do. When Dreaming town into a negate/spin or flipping face down is the biggest issue most decks will run into. That says a lot. Especially considering most decks can play through without issue. Add side decking and the deck shouldn't be an issue. Empen's skill drain effect is a non factor for most decks in the current metas. In Master Duel. It's a slightly better option but it's still not doing much. Only Link based decks really have to worry.

[@caseynivans7885]

Avian and Empen have the highest win rates when summoned yet people will always say Floo is trash like ok bro

[@tsynthetic]

7:58 “Purrely is suffering from severe memory loss. Purrely has acquired dementia” 😂

[@McBobX]

5:12 That reaction dude! The disappointment overflow!!! KEKW

[@NotsoNaisu]

Dragon Link went down but the Supreme King engine will allow us to still play the deck competitively. We’re just less likely to win tournaments but we can still top. We will be back at full power when we get Scarred Dragon Archfiend

[@JMarsella9]

My poor Zombie Punk deck catching strays with that Chaos ruler ban.

[@des6801]

@ailediablo79good played something that isn’t top tier

[@DaZk7]

​@ailediablo79cry about it bruh

[@prideofjustice994]

5:09 His smile & optimism gone.

[@ducky36F]

“You can actually pinpoint the second his heart rips in half”

[@raelak7850]

"What's missing from this list?" The roach...

[@Elfking94]

Im really surprised they hit floodgates. Just last month i made a complaint saying they were cool minus the fact that the same people were just shoving as many in some decks that they could. Followed by the irony that as they made cards that played around them, they were able to play with them too

[@pptemplar5840]

Konami made a bunch of changes that any player could have (and did) tell them to make two years ago, and then took a shotgun to a bunch of pot cards and tier 2 strategies. Objectively, it's one of the best lists we've ever had for the game, but it also INFURIATES me, because I don't think Konami deserves praise for making a lot of decent changes after 2 years of them just being allowed to be problems, and then continuing to kinda ignore a lot of the more recent problems. I don't want to play a game that feels like it's working on a several month delay on solving issues that the playerbase can VERY easily identify, I love YuGiOh, it will usually be at least some part of my life, and MD being accessible makes it kibd of given that I would play it pretty consistently. But the fact that I don't WANT to play every day is kind of telling, I am literally the easiest target for Konami to entice to play, and the fact that they have ANY issue at all getting me to want to play every day means that it is failing on some level. I am that big of a fan, I am the lowest hanging fruit and they sometimes struggle to keep me invested, that does not bode well for retention of players who aren't already heavily invested in Yu-Gi-Oh as a IP.

[@danha3107]

the fact that they didn’t touch gimmick puppet is mildly sadge but ig it’s not popular so sUre?? Doesn’t make sense with all the other stun hits though Also 3 terrortop and 3 scorpio WITH invoker/isolde in the game is terrifying

[@dariuspenner2528]

At this point I’m questioning whether or not it’s even worth it to run the small Kashtira package in VS. Fenrir being able to grab either an earth or fire while providing an extra interruption going first was huge. Now I’d be stuck running something stupid like Scarekash if I wanted another earth off Fenrir, but both the Riseheart and Scarekash do pretty much nothing in the deck aside from sitting in hand. Might be worth throwing in Pank to hedge against going second as a frankly way better board breaker than Fenrir but the thing is useless going first. Same goes for Kaijus to make up for attribute deficits and even then those aren’t that good rn either. If you cut the Kashtira package you lose 4 cards plus the 1 TCBOO so that’s 5 slots to try and fill. Not an insignificant hit unfortunately

[@MajorTim01]

some decks already played 3 unicorn, a kasththiosis (however you spell it), and a birth for the full ariseheart line, but the deck is prolly a little less consistent with more bricks, but prolly still good to play if ur a VS enjoyer, ive seen a based list from the dc cup that played nadir servants to search out ecclesia and the trap so you can try that too

[@derpykarrot]

the backhanded floo comment hurt me so much as a floo player 7:43 yes, floo is already dead and has been dead since every banlist wants it gone

[@Dr.Moogle]

As long as they don't hit Robina the deck has options. Consistency is an issue but it's still possible to Master 5/1 with the deck.

[@spicymemes7458]

Not to me. I'm still enjoying it

[@Ice_Icemb]

@@Dr.Moogle It's possible, but it does not mean it doesn't feel miserable when half your games you lose the cointoss and your fucked, and the other half you brick, and you're fucked.

[@leeeyles1864]

"Dragon Rulers won't do anything". Dlink guy completely rebuilds board through nib on his turn after nibiru and on his next turn after I clear it again.

[@amr3731]

Except that d-link prefer to play mostly light and dark dragon (aside from that dragunity link). Dragon rulers don't really have that much synergy in them. As a deck, they are just rank 7 engine or aurarodon turbo. As individual card, each of them better of being played in different decks like how redox fit well in earth pile deck, same as tidal in water pile.

[@tuvillo]

I completely agree with the nostalgia argument. I kinda wanna play Dragon Ruler vs Spellbook of Judgment in current format.

[@samuelheddle]

konami please..... my cats can't even remember my face anymore....

[@metalmariomega]

Destruction to 1 is the second most questionable decision on this list, someone just HATES getting their engine pieces milled by the thing I guess. Birth going to 1 literally only hits "pure" Kashtira, I've NEVER seen or used an engine build with more than one of it, but I still find it funny so it gets a pass.

[@adrianvelasco6675]

"Purrely has acquired dementia" BLESS

[@nilesrodriguez4343]

Bro plays Runick and says HE'S suffering LMAO 🤣

[@imshaydin1324]

I’ve been playing D Link without Chaos Ruler for months now, still lines, but was a impactful hit. If you respect other decks with H/Ts Seals pass is still decent

[@mattsgamingstuff5867]

I'm a chaos ruler enjoyer, but acknowledged it should probably be banned (my unholy 60 card punk thunder dragon-link tearlaments pile will have to go to sleep). Completely banning wyverburster though rather than say down to 1, kinda feels like taking D-link out back and shooting it (honestly I'd rather have seen chaos space go if they had to kill the consistency a bit). Maybe the red-eyes variants live on but boot sector and ravine search are now super exposed for the most part and probably will almost always require using the normal summon to attempt.

[@ducky36F]

Having chaos ruler turns boards that would be Seals + Savage into full everything combo. I love the card but I think we can acknowledge it is insane at this point. Hitting Wyverburster hurts more.

[@cptKamina]

@@mattsgamingstuff5867 Yea, killing wyvern also basically killed chaos space anyways. And Seyfert...

[@imshaydin1324]

There’s a lot of good cards still around. No one really touches dragunity and no one plays chamber dragon maid anymore. There will always be good dragon synergies, the question is if we are patient enough for the OCG to make a new standard.

[@spacebartoloud]

I will admit my current deck in master duel is based off of your runnick/bystail deck (with a few minor changes of course) that you won ycs with, honestly runnick destruction, is basically a reverse painful choice in a way, a 1 for 5 hit is pretty insane/advantageous, and even runnick smiting storm to an extent could be like that, if not more, granted you are running the risk of allowing your opponent to create an unbreakable board to be able to hit 5-ish cards. (Also that isn't even a guarantee as they could have a negate available to nuke the smiting storm.) Also I am in agreement with you about pot cards, even the one that allows you to choose which ones you toss away, they are good, but the drawbacks are always a bit risky imho. - I honestly kind of feel the same way about cards like tripe tactics talent/thrust, lightning storm etc, they are good/great if your are in a position you can use them, but often they are "dead" or useless cards that are simply just sitting in your hand. Though again that is just my opinion on them, they are good when they are good, bad when they are bad. xD

[@GlacierMoonDragon]

POD imo should be at 3. It makes semi-limiting and limiting cards much more of a lost and having it at 1 opens a lot more engine pieces in Decks.

[@kenja0685]

They banned Terraforming and Demise, and all of the Pots to 1. I think Konami wants to see where decks stand on their own merit without the assistance of outside generic sources. I wouldn't be surprised if they banned ROTA soon, not necessarily because it's busting any particular deck but because it's making Warriors more consistent. I think Master Duel wants to only hurt consistency as opposed to outright killing any strategy.

[@DaShikuXI]

@@kenja0685 Problem is that hurting consistency punishes weaker decks more than it does stronger decks. For example if you ban ROTA, something like say Heroic Challenger would be much more affected than Infernoble, even though they lose the same card. The more recent a deck is, the more inherent consistency it has, and so the less it relies on external consistency, which means banning external consistency doesn't affect it as much. It would be much better to look at the consistency tools of certain decks themselves, instead of the generic options.

[@gatocochino5594]

@@DaShikuXIThis is a bad argument for 3 reasons: 1. It is not true that a more recent deck is more consistent, look at VS or kash and compare them to swoswo or zoo. 2. Weaker decks and stronger decks is not a constant thing in the meta, if a 'strong' deck gets hit then a 'weak' deck can take it's place in the meta. If this 'weaker' deck is abusing the same generic cards as the 'stronger' then fundamentally the meta hasn't changed. I would much rather play against a branded deck playing only in-archetype cards over generic pile of cards ft. prospy, terraforming, rota, chaos ruler and so on. 3. Most importantly, DECKS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE WEAKNESSES AND YES, BRICKING MORE OFTEN THAN OTHER DECKS IS A WEAKNESS. If you don't want to brick you can either: play more in-archetype cards, even if those are not as strong as your best starters. Or just play a different deck that doesn't brick as often even if it's a weaker deck.

[@GlacierMoonDragon]

@@kenja0685 Hurting Consistency of a Deck is good but POD at 3 solves that issue. Banishing 10 cards that could be garnets or potential starters with those cards being at 1 or 2 hurts Decks a lot more than having POD at 1 or even 2. For instance if POD is run with Kashtira, even though you draw 2, your copies of Fenrir and Unicorn might get banished.

[@mightymanatee5342]

They still need to ban Destruct Potion to get rid of the Numeron Dragon OTK.

[@agh91]

flood gate = bad maxx c = bad board full of negates = fine, absolutely balanced, great game design, keep printing more multinegates konami

[@stefaniagerardo7562]

guys i had an idea this night and idk if it could work, with longyuan at 3 i was planning about making a swordsould deck with a little dogmatika engine with maximus, quem, nadir servant and fallen of alba do you think it could work? They are connected with ecclesia that could either summon alba going second to possibly make a mirror jade and sword soul combo pieces

[@silvermushroom-gamifyevery6430]

If they’re going to go hard on floodgates, could they please go after the generic extra deck Omni negates that contribute to the screw off turn 1 boards?

[@不只是谁所无名找小二]

These are the kind of lists we needed week 1 post release of MD

[@Manley410]

the same ppl that shit on "floodgates" don't realize that yugioh for years has been creating situations in which your opponent cant play. floodgates in the forms of slow trap cards scare people but searchable, consistent, combo lines that can create big negate boards with monsters is okay! :))))

[@arrownoir]

Tidal has been great for me in Marincess. Foolishing the barrier statue to revive with Anemone is better than praying you hit it with Springirl.

[@todddalton4579]

Same, but with evigishki neremanas reviving kairyu shin. Water toolbox has never been more fun

[@peepeevs]

Oh cool dude, your Rouge deck ends on a floodgate that you can protect from dying by usual ways. You must be a big fan of Vaylantz

[@arrownoir]

@@peepeevs It’s the only way for a deck like Marincess to survive sometimes. Now I do admit that the barrier statues and other floodgate monsters should all be banned. They’re all ripe for abuse.

[@peepeevs]

@@arrownoir But if that is the only way the deck is viable, what is the point in playing the deck at all? Floodgate turbo is hardly any better than just playing a Stundeck, and at least Stun has the decency of letting you know you lost quickly.

[@arrownoir]

@@peepeevs I like the deck. That’s not the only way it’s viable, it just insulates it more.

[@Billy_Wyatt]

Banning chaos ruler and white dragon hurts a lot for chaos / light n dark decks. I mainly enjoy those but dragon link was the main reason those two cards got hit. The changes in the banlist are pretty fair and will shift the meta around.

[@stevenceja4706]

I really enjoyed white dragon and black dragon in my branded deck. It's sad to see white dragon go 😢

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

soulbreaker armor only needed to go to 1 to stop the ftk but it's a common so konami doesn't care as usual

[@DaShikuXI]

Honestly a very good ban list. I would have outright banned the floodgates and pots, but it's close enough. The one thing I really do question here is the Wyverburster hit, as I feel like there are better ways to nerf Dragon Link. Wyverburster is used in other decks, like say Red-Eyes, which are now punished unnecessarily. Still a good ban list though for sure.

[@tripleaaabattery8480]

idk, if you were to hit dragonlink wyverburster is prettty good. it essentially makes seyfert bad to run and obviously makes collapserpant bad to run as well.

[@arielgomes7989]

The "irrelevant deck is getting hit too" is a terrible argument for not hitting something. Dlink has been played for ages in various forms, and is a very flexible deck that's very difficult to hit effectively. Wyverburster ban is one of the few hits that's actually meaningful.

[@DaShikuXI]

@@arielgomes7989 Ok so why not ban Levianeer for example? It is used more in DLink than Wyverburster, but banning it has less of an impact on other decks than banning Wyverburster, as less other decks play Levianeer. Considering the fact that Chaos Ruler also got banned this patch, a Levianeer ban makes much more sense than a Wyverburster ban, both for DLink and for other decks.

[@ducky36F]

Wyverburster ban is a massive hit. Seyfert and chaos space is the best engine in the deck by far and banning Wyverburster completely invalidates Seyfert and turns chaos space from a flexible combo starter into a bystial card.

[@arielgomes7989]

@@DaShikuXI You don't seem to know how DLink works. 1 - Levianeer is not used more than Wyverburster, thats absurd. If you're looking at the deck breakdown on MDM, 88% is only for people that use wyverburster at 2 copies. Coupled with people who play it at 1 and 3, wyverbuster is on 99% of DLink decks, and a lot of the remaining 1% is probably decks that got mislabled. 2 - Wyverbuster makes chaos space and seyfert into combo starters, plus it's the best extender if you already have other starters like black metal dragon. It is the cornerstone of the deck. Levianeer is a useful tool for boardbreaking that ocasionally gets used for extending and hand ripping if you open cracked. Doesnt even come up most games. Completely different roles. 3 - We are not throwing darts to decide on what the hit should be. If the goal is to take the deck out of the meta, the hit should be meaningful, and wyverburster is one of the most effective solutions. No one cares about "Red-eyes", I dont even know what that deck would look like and I've played MD since launch. If its playing wyverburster and the black metal package, it's probably just a worse DLink.

[@aligd7040]

Even if i think as a tcg player, the hits are going in the right direction, they are really messing with the playerbase. The kashtira core is so dammn expensive, same with the purrely core, if they really want to murder these decks they need to totally refund all related cards. This would be a step in the right direction. One they would admit they did a bad misstake, two they wouldnt do such a dick move again in master duel.

[@Narou41]

sad dragon linkers noises

[@Ragnarok540]

I almost feel bad for the Kashtira players, first Konami makes it the most expensive deck in the game and it turns out to be really mid, with a lot of weaknesses that can easily be exploited in deck building (for the other decks) and now it is even less playable than before. The thing is, it is still freaking everywhere so Konami really wants these people to buy something else.

[@redr0sid210]

It’s not the most expensive deck. It’s not everywhere unless you’re still in plat for some reason.

[@Ragnarok540]

​@@redr0sid210what is the most expensive deck then? And yeah, I can see it in Diamond, is not something that stops at Platinum, for some reason.

[@justice8718]

@@Ragnarok540 Vanquish Soul

[@tuvillo]

It wasn't the most expensive because it released pre-hit.@@Ragnarok540

[@rizreighnand6471]

my wishlist for next year is to see bloodshed on the january banlist for the following next year

[@slaygoblins]

Ygo players when they see a floodgate: 😭 Ygo players when they combo into floodgates: 🤑

[@OnlyTheStrongest116]

Facts 😂

[@dariuspenner2528]

Nah look at the ban list. People hate shit like Shock Master, VFD, Scythe, etc. and D Barrier has been one of the most hated side deck cards since Branded SwordSoul format. Most players generally want to play the game and agree that floodgates suck. Unless you’re arguing that a negate board is functionally a floodgate, which is a massive leap in logic since negation is finite whereas floodgates demand backrow removal else they’re infinite negation of a specific game mechanic. Unless of course it’s a lingering floodgate like D Barrier or VFD, which makes removal worthless and negation doesn’t exist for backrow outside of boss monsters that you won’t have set up by the time a D Barrier is flipped or Red Reboot.

[@slaygoblins]

@dariuspenner2528 negate boards function as floodgates when you don't get to play a single card in your hand without it being negated. They also require you to just "draw the out" or hope whatever handtrap you had before they started playing was good enough.

[@dariuspenner2528]

@ slaygoblins incorrect. Negates run out. Once a Baronne spent it’s negate it’s done. Same goes for Apollousa, Savage, etc. Negate boards also have way more that hard counters them. DRNM, Tactics/Thrust, Kaijus/Golem/Sphere Mode, Evenly, and every other form of mass removal hose negate boards and force negates prematurely. Floodgates specifically require backrow removal, of which all that’s commonly played is Duster. Can’t go into Phoenix under most of them and they function as infinite negates against specific mechanics until removed. You can at least play into a Baronne and bait negates to play. You can’t even attempt to play into garbage like TCBOO, Summon Limit, Antispell, etc. unless you drew into Duster or play other backrow hate. There’s an excessive amount of combo hate from board breakers to hand traps that not drawing into anything is unlikely. Not drawing into duster at 1 against stun however is very likely

[@slaygoblins]

@@dariuspenner2528 incorrect

[@NecroNathancon]

A cute deck idea is Dragon Ruler Kashtira. You can keep attaching banished Rulers to Arise-Heart, use the extra level 7 bodies for a second Shingra-La, and keep detaching Rulers to add 1-3 cards to hand per turn for more bodies. The Kash bodies are the main elemental attributes, so that helps synergize further with the Dragon Rulers, and with them all being level 7, you can use Birth to normal summon Dragon Rulers without tribute if they're stuck in hand, too.

[@robertbarber1198]

Birth limited to 1 people are not gonna waste resources on rulers if they are smart that is. It’s nothing more than trying to get people to spend on that pack simple as that

[@ericknunez8069]

Brick city

[@NecroNathancon]

@@ericknunez8069 Not as much as you'd expect. Dragon Rulers are almost never dead, and starting with any Kash mon goes in for combo.

[@gatocochino5594]

There is 0 synergy between those archetypes.

[@F3XT]

he just mentioned synergies@@gatocochino5594

[@Il_Misantropo]

Fenrir, my boy... You lost your twin but you will always remain in my deck.

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

Introduce him to his distant cousin pankratops I guess 🤷

[@eliasakkerman4597]

​@Honest_Mids_Masher the red headed stepchild scareclaw kash

[@fluxwise]

very unrelated- but may i ask where you got that framed BEChaos Dragon? I've seen a Linkuriboh one too and im curious to check where to get them :>

[@mattr791]

The giant cards are prizes from ycs side events

[@fluxwise]

@@mattr791 ah i see, damn x3

[@jeffreymaxson6216]

All those floodgates hit but evenly matched is still at 3 😔

[@reirei_tk]

I guess Konami wants us to make Arise-Heart with the Dragon Rulers. Might be cool, actually.

[@dabbingtoast7743]

I’m still convinced someone with alot of sway at Konami HQ lives and dies by One Bad Day and various other Stun decks and fights tooth and nail to keep floodgates off the ban list. Its the only explanation for why these damn cards are still legal.

[@japan100100]

So I finally decide to start aiming towards crafting for a Kashira deck and then this happens....I will never be allowed to play in the meta lol.

[@Andrito3000]

Hitting Wyverbuster was a mistake and what should have happened is Bystial engine getting another hit/change by Saronir going to 1 (because let's face it they would not hit UR Lubellion if there is another option). I think Bystials are ok as Handtraps but are problematic as an engine and if Sanorir goes to 1 then Druiswurm could probably go to 3. A change like this would have addressed both DLink and Branded but instead DLink got severely nerfed and Branded's power level is once again off charts.

[@dominicmallano5633]

They did this because dragon link won the last duelist cup and stun always is fantastic in the duelist cups. Why play combo when your opponent who isn’t playing stun will scoop turn 1 when they don’t draw the out to your floodgate.

[@xTrovezDiesLastx]

SHS is also coming. No need to play Samurai Robots when Dragons can just do the same job without playing pendulum cards

[@dominicmallano5633]

@@xTrovezDiesLastx the SHS combo with 1 card is better than D Link

[@Random15738]

Really sad to see wyverburster banned… he was an important guy in my red eyes deck

[@milklander847]

And important for my Chaos Dragon Deck.

[@ducky36F]

If you’re playing Wyverburster in Red-Eyes you’re playing Dragon Link with extra steps sorry to say.

[@Random15738]

@@ducky36F shut

[@duellinksfun3518]

Bro so stressed he grew practically a beard

[@AllThingsEntertaining]

My friend and I predict that the reason for Synchro Zone being limited is to potentially promote another N/R format event. I can't foresee this card being played in any competitive strategies, and I can see some synchro piles try this card as a permanent Swords of Revealing Light that also gives you a synchro on your opponent's turn, and a recovery tool.

[@arielgomes7989]

Brother, that card was hit because it was played in runick stun, simple as that

[@matchanavi]

Synchro Zone was used in Stun, take off the tinfoil hat lol. Also they just have to ban cards for the event itself, no need to make it part of the global banlist.

[@DMNetworkYGO]

Need clipped pic of when Josh actually sees the Runick hit. Man i felt it lmao

[@abcrx32j]

Terrortop to 3 is the most targeted change in the banlist

[@Raining_H]

All i ever face is kashtira and lab. So seeing the kashtira hit was fine with me man.

[@Raining_H]

@ailediablo79 kashtira is just as fucking toxic. I run mikanko kaiju. Had a dude lock down 90% of my field in 1 turn and then he surrendered the second i using his card to summon my kaiju to his side of the field freeing my field. Made me sit there for like 10 minutes just to surrender the second he didnt get to completely lock me out of playing fuck that deck.

[@youtubeenjoyer7279]

those dlink players will just switch to draguinity variant which combos forever to finish

[@youtubeenjoyer7279]

so many decks got affected by baning magic dragon, they should have limit striker and tracer and ban absorouter instead.

[@Weslicus]

As long as the C remains, master duel will remain uninstalled

[@arcoten1]

Weak

[@MrKoolaidkid10]

Keep crying

[@nivernjohn7986]

Bro it's a fairly free game. If I was paying good money for decks then I would not want to play it. Plus u generally win as many games as u lose due to the C. So long term climbing don't really matter.

[@queenbrightwingthe3890]

@@MrKoolaidkid10 Found the weak YGH player that cant win without Max C resolves. I have played without Max C since I started playing this game and never had problems winning. You just build board breakers instead and watch the Max C kid scoop.

[@queenbrightwingthe3890]

@@arcoten1 People who need Max C to win are weak. Just like you.

[@shawnpanzegraf5642]

Soooo many Synchro Decks got murdered by the Chaos Ruler Ban. Punk Bystial’s endboard is now surpassed by median SS-Tenyi, so no reason to build the Deck. Chaos-Thunder Dragon is only playable as the version that uses the non-Colossus Fusion, which is tough, because it eats up another ED slot and two more main deck slots. Pure Chaos is absolutely dead. RDA/Resonators is also dead. Pretty much every Synchro Deck except Swordsoul and Blackwings has been reduced to either Gold-only or completely unplayable. Edit: I loathe the fact we’re heading into another Branded Meta. If they were going to go this far, Ban Super Poly to reign Branded in.

[@kuma9239]

Bruh... Baby dragon ban is too much. They murdered the deck.

[@maunabesanika]

I craft 1 wyverburster for my chaos deck and got royal, only for it to get banned

[@PaladinMika]

pot of anxietis to 1, longyuan to 3, protos free, let's go boys

[@revice950]

Not birth😭

[@jcplays5831]

All that’s left is the roach. Let’s hope that 2024 gets it done

[@156-ricardo6]

kashtira was the worst investment i've ever made

[@ryuhayabusa6651]

The last games i lost in MD duel was against runick stun. Tcabo + skill drain + kaiser colosseum.

[@PricefieldPunk]

Why are all the draw cards getting hit?? 😭

[@Iamwar2000]

Has anyone tried Tidal in Tearlaments? I think Tidal has some hidden potential

[@FanofChantelle]

Every time I face Dragon Link (they’re rampant even in Platinum), clicking the “surrender” button is almost a reflexive reaction given I’ve no patience to see what kind of convoluted board and unpredictable tech they’re about to use. Good riddance.

[@versutus2699]

I would like a dedicated video to what you think should be hit if maxx c is gone because I remember you mentioning before

[@neusyns]

Idk. Tempest is dragunity support for sure lol

[@ProfessionalYouTubeWatcher]

Lol I am a branded enjoyer and I wish dragon link was MORE popular 😅 nothing better than tributing their whole field for game

[@ichbin8692]

Enjoy next month while branded is in shop because hopefully they get their hits that they've had coming for months.

[@ProfessionalYouTubeWatcher]

@@ichbin8692 ban branded fusion next list

[@luminous3558]

How do you still play branded, half your deck is at 1. Genuinely miserable deck.

[@Ice_Icemb]

@@luminous3558 Not at all. The deck is insanely strong. The vast majority of the deck is unlimited. And it's easily the best deck in the meta after this banlist. The only reason it did not get hit is because the pack is still in the shop.

[@amr3731]

​@@luminous3558half of deck is exaggerated statement when the only significant card that is limited is branded fusion and limited list doesn't even reach that many.

[@MrHellsing1055]

Nothing to address circular?????

[@--yamen--]

We will sadly hope again to bee maxc band Patients My Brothers😢

[@luminous3558]

Kinda hate how the kash and purrley hits are just making the decks completely inconsistent instead of addressing a part of their endboard while leaving them consistent. Same with what happened to branded. Though I guess the meta might be more lenient on lesser powered deck, oh wait mathmech is unhit.

[@ripper9933]

Ah yes lets address the Purrely endboard that ends on only Noir by... banning noir? and making the deck unplayable

[@c.m.81]

All floodgates back to 3

[@wokeaf1337]

Found the Floodgate-Andy!

[@konstantink7310]

Honestly I’m fine if they ban floodgates , just release mystic mine to master duel .

[@rsdmusic6325]

Based

[@Tortorrta]

Next is fountain to zero

[@kevinlee5753]

Naw that'll completely kill the deck

[@giovannilawes9120]

thats what we want@@kevinlee5753

[@autobotstarscream765]

Boss Stage only, no items? 🦊

[@aaronmartinez7277]

God fucking bless if this actually happens

[@itsjayn4538]

rip dementia kitties for now

[@iLune218]

The Synchro Bystial might be the biggest joke in this BL only because Chaos Ruler is banned, my 3 Ringowurm,3 Ready Fusion,3 Cyverse Gadget will become useless in other decks,all of them are ur cards.🤣😭😭

[@Adalon-]

Okay, Josh saying wyverburster was a good hit has simply solidified my opinion that he simply wants any non-runick deck that is good to become unplayable.

[@rsdmusic6325]

Lol

[@Dexrazor]

@@rsdmusic6325 “Lol” lol

[@voltingmaster5458]

Kashtira can still survive as long as they have Ariseheart.

[@cubiix1302]

Really hate past banlist purrely to 2 make it hard to get 1 utopic and 2 noir we need to ditch yeap! first Delicious to 1 really sad too sometimes we need that 2nd memory so happiness can pound opponent monster to lethal Purrely keep losing good memorys man.. Sad cat getting dementia

[@jorgecarvajal5385]

they kill my deck oohh well i suppose i jus go to change for mark and build the manadium

[@milklander847]

Why is Pot of Duality Limited?😂

[@astralhusky3615]

Yeah I don't like pot of desires either. I play it a few times but, not much.

[@aeugh8998]

BRO AT LEAST GIVE ME THE NEW SCAR RED AND RDA SUPPORT BEFORE BANNING THE PEPEGA RULER 😭😭😭

[@Otzkar]

Im really sad about the chaosruler hit but I understand why it should be banned. What I don't get is why the same logic doesn't aply to maxx c

[@tuvillo]

OCG logic does not apply to Maxx C. They semi-limit or limit cards purely based on playrate in Japan (Ash Blossom semi is an example) but they will not touch Maxx C. Perhaps they are at least aware that it's a card that should never be at anything other than 0 or 3, and they just refuse to ban such an integral part of their game.

[@jayray7449]

I hate the ideas of simply killing decks. You go through the effort to make the decks, make the cards, just to completely make them unplayable. Seems pointless. Removing circular would kill most cyberse decks, killing off baby dragon has pretty much killed off dragonlink. Could've made other hits/limits.

[@ducky36F]

Just limit both babies and chaos space like in the tcg. Allows the deck to still exist and be strong but dramatically lowers the combo potential. Banning wyvernburster all but kills it.

[@luminous3558]

@@ducky36F The deck was already only playing 1 of each.

[@arrownoir]

A lot of those limit 1s should’ve been bans.

[@Luminousplayer]

chaos ruler had it coming for a long time tho

[@firerhino8592]

Poor Pot of desires our favorites -9 card 😢