They FIXED GANONDORF... Then Ruined Him Again.

Ganondorf in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is just straight-up worse than he needs to be, they had the solution in the palm of their hands!

[@MockRockTalk]

Still stings to this day man. Anyways full video's up now

[@foolofdaggers7555]

as someone who knows very little about Smash, the name “wizard’s dropkick” goes INCREDIBLY hard.

[@kurtmatteson4914]

I don't know why I watch these shorts when I've already watched the full video. I guess that speaks to their quality.

[@zhang6754]

WIZARDS DROPKICK is an amazing name for a move

[@JacobSC_]

I agree that getting custom moves was annoying but it was one of my favorite things Smash 4 did and to see it gone in Ultimate just makes me sad. As a Mega Man fan, it hurt to see all that represenation from the Robot Master weapons get cut out.

[@aceg.rookie]

Someone on the original video commented something about bringing some of those moves back for a Mega Man echo, like say Proto Man. I’d imagine that would be the most ideal way to bring these moves back.

[@shadowsnake5133]

​@@aceg.rookie I feel like that would work, so long as they also have him some unique moves/ properties as well, specifically involving his shield, and his stronger buster shot.

[@DanKen139]

I don't agree with custom moves being annoying. You might as well not play with any Mii characters if one is bothered by options(Not just change alone). A TON of mofos slept on the potential of such a feature in Smash IV(A-K-A Royal Rumble). Which is why I only agree with ya 2nd sentence with it being one of the best options with S-4. 💩, Captain Falcon had an infinite because of customs. It's literally the only game that you can take most of somebody's favorite character & turn it into YOUR original version of that character.

[@JacobSC_]

@DanKen139 I said "getting custom moves was annoying." I actually think Custom Moves were amazing, but the annoying part was obtaining them. It was a long grind and even with my hundreds of hours I didn't get them all.

[@DanKen139]

Wait, seriously@@JacobSC_? I never had that issue. Maybe because I knew what to do specifically, but ever character I used in their cool story mode, I got all their moves after a full run with them just once. Lost a couple of times to whereas though I started over. But never played with a character more than once after completing it with them.

[@jimiyu.]

ssf2 uses it as ganons default down b even cooler is if you space it correctly, you can slide off a ledge as you land and cancel the endlag, which leads to some pretty sick combos

[@tartoutrogger36]

i thought it was just me that knew about the ledge slide factor lol

[@jimiyu.]

@@tartoutrogger36 it’s pretty common tech for dorf mains

[@CodeKirby]

ssf2 ganon goes crazy

[@insomniacnerd5592]

If only the king of evil, one of the most known villains in media, could actually be decent in this series for once.

[@squedlly]

Honestly, I'm actually trying to get all achievements on adventure, and he's pretty alright there. The high damage is too good against bosses.

[@DiaSynapsid]

If they really want Smash-dorf this bad, I suggest another Ganon as an Echo Fighter. Have one be a more traditional Captain Falcon semi clone, and give the other the sword and custom specials (and an actual up tilt). Dark Blade, Wizard's Dropkick, the uppercut, and the launching command grab.

[@pokefire953]

There’s a very popular suggestion to move gannons move set to the character black shadow from fzero

[@OSena34]

That happens in ssf2, his down B jumps I'm the air first

[@PlushChie]

They did use it as his base in super smash flash 2, the whole character in that game is really cool and unique in general. I hope the next smash game does something similar

[@ldubs5884]

Ssf2 did something similar and I will say, it works great. The main reason is because it allows ledge canceling but it’s also useful for neutral

[@FlamingBasketballClub]

Should have been his default down b move. Glad you mentioned recovery.

[@Rayyveil1]

If only...

[@vTheStranger]

i get it. but imagine how much cooler this move would be on falcon

[@illford]

Flacon doesn't need it though. He also just had different custom moves that were cool

[@Brandonrios365]

Sakurai is like: Haha, I could make Ganondorf better, but no.

[@ryanmorfei6325]

Wizard's dropkick is a crazy name for an attack

[@screenboss]

This is the feedback we must make in order to make it known what we’re looking for in later iterations.

[@ajgameguy3674]

Custom Moves should've came back for Ultimate. Messing around with them and seeing how certain characters worked with them was so fun.

[@erzascarlette8124]

A+ choice in music

[@theoverseer393]

I hope they give more characters the palutena treatment

[@PJNyte]

Oh wow, ganon looks pretty sick with that move

[@Wxyver_n]

If they kept this custom move, he would definitely be higher on the tier list because of a secondary recovery option.

[@louie.4047]

i love my main being at the bottom of every tier list!!!

[@pol0_766]

A video will have my attention if it has a Hyrule warriors music behind

[@XeronBlargMain]

This alone i think would make ganondorf go from bottom tier to mid tier

[@ApplePi._.]

This reminds me a lot of Little Mac side B lol

[@sebastiannoriega9466]

The fan game Super Smash Flash 2 used Wizard's Dropkick when you're grounded, but kept the OG while airborne

[@Heavensgate6]

I just know casuals would find this move annoying if he ever got it and that part of the reason i believe ganondorf will never be good for competitive play because he's already overwhelming for casuals to deal with. I'm pretty sure his ganoncide got nerfed this time around because they wanted him to be fun to play against in all skill levels for such a easy to pick up character

[@chineduj-o6291]

Well, this is in SSF2, so I'm happy

[@bryanvickers]

Just reduce the startup and ending lag, and make the aerial version faster and angle-able.

[@jc8153]

Just custom moves in general would have been great in smash tournaments

[@colmecolwag]

Thinking about "wed rather buff character strengths and nerf their weaknesses instead of trying to buff their weaknesses and just make everyone kinda good at everything"

[@wokeupinapanic]

I’ve been waiting for a good Ganondorf in Smash since Melee, and I think it’s safe to say we’re never getting one lol

[@Epic_green]

as a former smash 4 ganon main, as bad as he was.. i really really miss smash 4 ganon.. 😞

[@BigDnotimpressed]

So should have Dark Fist.

[@darkestwilightt]

Or they could have remade ganondorf to he his own fighter faithful to the Zelda series and not a copy of Falcon

[@ThatOneGuyWhoLikesPikmin]

They still have it in ssf2

[@MadSkull]

Like the developers of Smash Bros actually cared about balancing all characters equally.

[@josephdiscavage2709]

Yeah but big spike funny :(

[@kadeemmentor7496]

Super smash flash 2 use the drop kick i think, let me confirm it Edit: He does have the drop kick, but it changes angles going more downward in the air

[@tsths]

Super Smash Flash 2 didn't miss for this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️ (SSF2 also gives to ganon a cape swipe nair that actually reflect projectile)

[@aggressivefox454]

It makes me sad how bland ultimate made all of the characters when they were more interesting and had charm in their movesets in brawl and smash 4. Dedede had waddle dees which were awesome, wario’s bike would break into pieces so he became an item character, zss was also an item character but you had to juggle her items throughout the match so they didn’t despawn, pit could keep his arrows going in circles the whole match and use them when needed but at the cost of constant maintenance, meta knight and pit could glide (which was overpowered on metaknight but could have been balanced) which was cool, etc. I could go on and on how the design philosophy of ultimate makes the game and its characters so bland. It’s so sad