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[@mallosaurusrex9168]

sometimes I want to be flattered that men find boobs so fascinating but then something gets said about virginity and it all goes out the window

[@Nakia11798]

Breast f3t1sh has been driven so deeply into their minds that they don't even realize that it's a f3t1sh.

[@mackingcheese]

as a lesbian it just makes me wanna barf

[@solsystem1342]

Ew, so wrong. Finally started second puberty so anyone being interested in my boobs would be nice, in a consentual scenario.

[@amyt3949]

@@mackingcheese 👈 Name says it all! 💯

[@naluzoniro]

that's because it makes the boobs hang sadly (like a pair of large truck nuts) : (

[@dollopedits]

How are men still badly writing women? It honestly baffles me because of how much information is on the internet to help them lol

[@blowinatranny]

You use the words men and women with such confidence but im guessing you can't tell me what either of those words mean

[@lif6737]

I’ll have you know I am fantastic at writing women, especially when it comes to describing their ample (but not too ample) bosoms

[@dark7859]

It really baffles me because when I try to write I aways end up getting way too focused on a topic to make sure it's right even when I probably shouldn't, yet some of these man couldn't google "woman running"

[@icantthinkofaname8139]

They’re confidently incorrect. They think they know all there is to know, and don’t feel the need to look anything up

[@alabastergiant]

Dunning-Krueger Effect.

[@kwalsh6291]

I love how Jamie becomes more and more genuinely bewildered at the amount of SENTIENT FRUITY BREASTS

[@meepmoopiethe3rd]

You know what's worse than men not being able to write women? Women not being able to write women. My stepmom gives me a lot of her crime fiction novels when she's done with them, and they're almost all written by women. The amount of times I've seen sentences like, "She ambled across the room, drunk, her heaving breasts swaying side-to-side in anticipation of [Male Love Interest]'s affection," is insane. And I'll read things like this and go, "Wait. This is written by a woman? What?" and it's super cringe because she should know better. And it's not like these books are written for men. Their audience is clearly middle aged women. I wish I'd have kept one of the ones she gave me, because there was a whole chapter - in a crime novel, keep in mind!! - which described in detail the backstory of the female lead, but it would be like describing her life in college and always go back to, "But no one knew her for her smarts. No, the boys back then all knew her for her breasts, famous among the campus first houses." Beautiful work.

[@rowanrobbins]

I wonder if that author really was a woman. Maybe they used a pseudonym.

[@ShinyAvalon]

If they're books marketed to women in particular, then sometimes male authors use female pseudonyms. What kind of crime fiction are they?

[@astrinymris9953]

Unfortunately, internalized misogyny is a thing. ☹

[@KristiChan1]

@Ville Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Non dolore placeat est numquam eius qui sequi totam. Aut dignissimos autem aut voluptatibus nisi eos nisi quidem ab voluptas exercitationem. Est enim dicta ad velit minus et harum aliquid sit tenetur molestiae est magni quos vel quibusdam voluptatum ex dolor mollitia. Aut illum vitae est nesciunt saepe ea rerum cupiditate est sequi animi qui eveniet assumenda. Ea nobis quidem At dolores reiciendis rem nulla dolorem At corrupti sint! Et accusamus animi qui molestias nihil eos nemo beatae ut reiciendis odio ad enim dolorum et delectus autem! Aut porro ipsam vel velit dolor vel tempore explicabo. Et quae voluptas in sint accusantium hic possimus obcaecati ut quia fuga qui enim autem.

[@alchemysaga3745]

Like others have said, pseudonyms are a thing, and are particularly common if the writer's actual gender doesn't match their audience or the primary consumer demographic for the genre they write. JK uses Robert Galbraith for her transphobic crap, for example, because the crime thriller genre is infamous for its lack of respect and its unfair double standards for female writers, despite women being the primary consumers of crime thrillers. Unless you actively research the author, you can't guarantee that a writer is the gender of their pseudonym. The other factor is that many publishing houses *do* push authors to change their stories and writing style to be "appealing to more demographics," with the "more demographics" actually meaning cis, straight men. Cis straight men are still considered the "golden" demographic to appeal to, because they still have a disproportionate amount of power in society despite not having the same degree of majority they once did.

[@pencilpauli9442]

"My feet are bound, but at least my boobs are free. Bounce free dear mams, boing in all directions." Must admit, I was unaware that bubblies had 360° mobility. You really do live and learn.

[@Nakia11798]

They have more than 180, but definitely not 360.

[@tjenadonn6158]

That's actually how binding works: you bounce them so they go concave and put the binder on before they bounce back.

[@libraryoflilylol199]

@@tjenadonn6158 Please. I want to see an animation model where the boobs actually bounce in every single direction.

[@angryface01]

This is my favorite comment. EVER. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@pablozanoto5801]

"Live and learn" Is that a SA2 reference?

[@Randoplants]

“His massive balls bounced in all directions, like the clappers inside a pair of church bells - and I was very keen to watch as they rung out the hours.”

[@angryface01]

Well done!

[@melissabarrett9750]

Poetic and musical

[@lauraslyricallife]

I NEED the next installment of these badly written women to include a collab with an artist bc I honestly need to see the "pliantly slender" woman without angles. Please. I need this.

[@LadyDragonbane]

That would be hilarious 😂

[@tjenadonn6158]

The only way I can imagine a woman without angles is if she got the same treatment as the protagonist from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. Just a limbless, orificeless locomotive mound of formerly human flesh.

[@electronics-girl]

Just start feeding these descriptions into one of those AI art programs.

[@rhokesh4391]

@@electronics-girl ... do you not like sleeping? 😧

[@chromedruidess2546]

Snake woman?

[@joelhaggis5054]

It's like they see women as a pair of breasts with a body attached to it.

[@Groffili]

1:08 "I never knew what to say to the ladies". You have to admit... he's correct.

[@hazell1304]

I've literally just come up against a solid case of 'is the author writing women badly or is the protagonist meant to be weird about women?" But considering the same books woman protag is worried about being 28 and "running out of time before she becomes a spinster" I get the feeling this author just.... leans towards the former lmao

[@slendveny7191]

I tried to make a protagonist kinda weird around a woman once, but I got bored of that and just had them talk about swords instead.

[@plat6164]

@@slendveny7191 this gives off serious Ace energy, I love it

[@Insertia_Nameia]

At 28, she's past "spinster" they have a different for that.

[@hazell1304]

@@Insertia_Nameia there's no upper age limit on spinster. It's an outdated term and even if it was still relevant she's also nowhere close (this book is set in the 21st century btw). I'm so curious as to what word you're thinking of (genuine)

[@DocKrazy]

Yeah. At 28 she already was a spinster (23-26) And she's well on her way to be within the statistically happiest demographic

[@pingidjit]

As a lesbian who has read a crap ton of lesbian fanfiction and novels, the descriptions of breasts in these 'works' is mind boggling. If one of the stories I read even bothered to describe a characters chest, it has never been so odd or detailed (if one can call the incompetent ramblings in this video detailed...). I mean, I am a fellow boob appreciator and I just cannot fathom what these men were thinking, or why they felt the need to write about the boobs in most circumstances where it was completely unnecessary.

[@tjenadonn6158]

I used to get compliments on how accurately and humanly I wrote my women characters, especially for a man. Surprise.

[@gayestmess_]

@@ageoldmary your what is coming up?????

[@dandelion_16]

​@@ageoldmary hey kiddo I'll admit idk your situation, but I genuinely hope you can get out of it. Hold on and keep fighting cause you deserve to live. It may sound foolish, but keep reaching out for help and maybe you'll find someone. If you can't maybe it's an extra reason to write. Leave as many traces as you can.

[@FrozEnbyWolf150]

Same, though in the past I would have assumed it's because I'm aroace and have no reason to objectify women. Well, that's still true, but also...

[@dandelion_16]

@@ageoldmary keep looking for the right people, for people you can trust. No need to yell it. You know that. I do trust you know enough about your situation to know what approach is best, but keep going, that's all.

[@science_bear]

Do you get any compliments from nonbinaries like Anderson Aldrich for standing in solidarity with their homophobic agenda?

[@hannahschrenk7981]

Part of the problem, I think, is that people who have never had boobs don't know how people who have them actually think about them. They're kind of like a nose or knee or any other body part. You don't think about them often or in detail. They're just a thing that is there and fades into the background so you can focus on more important stuff.

[@EdgedPixie]

They exist only when something makes you aware that they exist

[@jelatinosa]

Or you're aware of them because they hurt or are an inconvenience, but the fact that men think people with breasts just stand in the mirror and stare at and play with them all day is so ridiculous.

[@MeemahSN]

@@jelatinosa I’ve heard so many stories of people suffering severe back problems because of their breasts and it’s awful how these men refuse to understand that

[@alexreid7386]

Well, they're an errogenous zone and a main point of interest for sexual partners, so not quite as 'whatever' as a nose or knee. I can understand sometimes bouncing them in the mirror proudly, kinda like some guys might feel about their dicks. That probably depends on how high the woman's sex drive is though, and it's still very far away from the notion that we'd spend all day thinking about them. 😂

[@sailorboatface2162]

I really like the idea of balls being described the same way as breasts. I would read more books if the introduction of every single man included a description of their balls

[@paulwilliammonks1]

Joe took his time to open the front door. He paused his movement, as he slowly began to look around the room, a room which he hadnt seen since he was 25. Joe stood there now as a 89 year old, under his dressing gown his balls hung like a plum that was well after its use by date, withered by time, and no longer full as in his younger days. Now his balls were as dry as the sahara desert.

[@Randoplants]

ACDC had the right idea “My balls are always bouncing to the left snd to the right. It’s my belief that my big balls should be held every night.”

[@jackmckeown7601]

"His balls jiggled neurodiversely"

[@melissabarrett9750]

Bulky, like coconuts and deserving of being cracked

[@strangeaelurus]

​@@jackmckeown7601 UNWRITE THAT RIGHT NOW

[@LCRkoinu1]

7:37 actually, the "hanging like fruit from a tree" would better describe balls than breasts, but it's still super weird regardless.

[@morganc.m1830]

I really wish there was some way for me to warned about the word b*lls being said. I can't seem to watch f*cking anything without the video saying that crap or someone in the comments.

[@nathanmello4407]

​@@morganc.m1830- You can. There are several google extensions where you can block words from appearing or simply make them be replaced

[@AlbertEisbaer]

After "With a bandana tying back her hair and breasts" I went "WHAT? HOW?" until I realized that the sentence went on after that. Nevermind.

[@kiarranarisse]

Gotta keep the sentient fruity boobs outta the way, ya know, wouldn't want em bouncing in all directions

[@jaketaylor2775]

Sometimes I look at my old writing and think no one has ever strung together a worse combination of words. And then I remember lines like the ones in this video and I realize it's not that bad lol

[@saix_unicorn]

🤝 i can relate

[@jaketaylor2775]

@@saix_unicorn 🤝

[@ricequin]

Nice to know that I’ll be forever virginal despite being middle aged and married for 17 years.

[@amiable_monster]

😂

[@amiable_monster]

@☆HannahBanana the Bookworm☆ #those7damhalfbloods Thank you 😊

[@Nakia11798]

Ample means enough, so these writers are saying "Enough, but not TOO enough." What?

[@paulhammond6978]

"Ample breasts" is kind of a cliche. I guess the writer of that one at least knew that much, and didn't just want to put down something that has been said a thousand times before.

[@veganangara6333]

the painted over tarantula had me on the floor, it was so unexpected 😂 got to give the writer some credit for at least being original with their weird descriptions 😂

[@iantaakalla8180]

I will give them credit for at least exploring all parts of her body in uncomfortable detail because it’s usually the face and boobs that are described.

[@kiarona.]

Honestly that one made me laugh 😂 Hate the whole tone of the description, but the visual brought on by that particular sentence was just too funny 😅

[@teeth789]

also irritated me that in that description the halter top was digging into her shoulders, like my good sir do you know what a halter top is?

[@The_Crimson_Witch]

You know, the fact that I'm ace should have been more obvious when I described characters of different gender in the same way. It has never occured to me that a character's breast size was an important detail, because it isn't.

[@gaygengar]

nah it's just that the people writing that are weird af. 😂

[@kanashiiookami6537]

Yeah, only time I'd mention it is to say the character was an a-cup or smaller 'cause we exist. Lol. It was rare to find an MC even in books for teens that wasn't built, so it made me weirdly happy to have that inclusivity that yes, the MC can be female/afab and not stacked.

[@chromedruidess2546]

I'm ace and I have a horrible habit of completely omitting physical description when writing in first person unless completely unavoidable because actual plot. I just don't feel the need in most cases and my beta readers complain they can't picture the protag, lol picture whoever you want

[@kanashiiookami6537]

@@chromedruidess2546 you don't have to go all out, sometimes readers just want an idea if what the characters are wearing. If they're taller or shorter than whomever they're talking to, and a general idea of build. Are they fit? Are they chubby? Are they white or BIPoC? Or if sci-fi and/or fantasy, do they have different skin/eye/hair colour outside the norm? These are all just small things you can drop in a mention rather than going all "My Immortal" with every single character on the page (if you don't know the reference you can give Jaques ze whipper's videos on here a listen, because he's working his way through that hilarity of a fanfic) so mentioning something like dusting off their jeans, pulling up the hood of their bunnyhug (hoodie to you?), or rolling up the sleeves of their dress shirt (etc) can be used as beats that give us something other than talking heads. And it's not just that readers want you to describe characters for the sake of whom to base an image off. That's not the problem (most of the time at least). It's more that the descriptions, be they of characters, or settings, can help ground readers in your world and immerse them in it rather than them feeling disconnected and disinterested. Sorry for "mansplaining" if you already knew this all though!

[@chromedruidess2546]

@@kanashiiookami6537 Like I said, it isn't completely devoid of physical description. For example, my last story began with the protag in palliative care. Jaundiced, sallow, skeletal, thin hair, etc. were certainly used. Gender was revealed by a nurse. But I'm not going into a full physical description. Is it really relevant? I think the situation provides enough context. Now that I think about it, maybe my descriptions are actually fine. Tbh that complaint has only come from my primary beta reader who is a very supportive s/o but never otherwise reads fiction and possibly has the imagination of a brick. He wants it spelled out. He's mostly checking continuity and proofreading for me lol

[@lif6737]

There’s a wonderful assortment of horny old male writers who can’t write female characters other than as fetish objects. Like, when describing their appearance, the first thing they zero in on is their boobs. Tbh, though, that’s probably exactly what they do when they see women themselves. That said, I just have fun with it whenever I come across it in literature. It deserves to be critiqued and made fun of, but it can also be hilarious in its own way

[@Nakia11798]

And they'll excuse it by saying that breasts are sexually appealing... as if straight women write about balls EVER.

[@yjssj312]

@@Nakia11798 if it bothers you so much……dont read???

[@GothboiKenzy]

@@Nakia11798 cuz balls aren’t big as boobs

[@GothboiKenzy]

@@yjssj312 right like they get triggered over books 💀💀

[@shadowldrago]

"Are Men Okay?" I mean, I am. You look like you are. The men in this video? Not so much.

[@sundalosketch4769]

Well said.

[@0ffbeatQueer]

I want to make a collection of drawings or animations of women based purely off of men's descriptions just to show how absolutely absurd they are lmao Also Jammi always makes my day and I love watching his videos :D

[@twiggledowntown3564]

That would be interesting. If only more people could draw these as well. Then when everybody sees it, they would see how bizarre it looks. It's kinda like an animated character drawn like a donut on purpose.

[@Nemokiddy]

I bet that AIs would make absolute monstrous portraits out of this descriptions 🤭

[@krakenastral7683]

I mean... I think some anime -plenty of animation in general too- pretty much does that.

[@saix_unicorn]

i kinda want to do this only to see the results lol

[@ChosenOne41]

What the hell does "her breasts were good" even mean, they were well-behaved?

[@untipocualquiera3583]

That one sounded like it was supposed to be a narration from an otherwise simple-minded character, tho I lack context so I can't tell.

[@alexreid7386]

I can relate to the sentiment, honestly. Breasts are indeed "good" (I should know, I have a pair too), and it's hard not to notice an especially good pair. But it's very impolite to notice them too boldly, as the protagonist demonstrates. 😂

[@starfishgurl1984]

As an afab demigirl with sensory processing disorder who’s also aro ace I never understood nor cared for the obsession with breasts and quite frankly never really liked mine either but I do find it hilarious to see how people write about them and watching this made me wonder how I’d write about them as a result of my disinterest and sensory issues, lol, it would probably be pretty awkward/funny most likely. For some reason thinking about it reminded me of Lara Croft’s triangular pointed breasts in the PlayStation Tomb Raider game from the 1990’s era and it made me laugh hysterically as a result, lol.

[@jessicaholscher4097]

"since a woman who has not been pregnant, remains virginal forever." um, okay

[@zard5930]

A poem(?) about someone wanting to be a woman that is so badly written that it catapults poor Jamie's voice back to puberty to break

[@kitkatboard]

Was expecting a wholesome/sad poem about a trans woman in denial, got very disappointed

[@anangelnamedcecil4958]

My RTC brainrot had fun with this. I think it's weird and gross too but like...Noel's Lament... "I want to be that fucked up girl~!"

[@arachnozure]

@@anangelnamedcecil4958 RTC IS AMAZING!! also, was ur name by any chance chosen from wtnv? :D

[@anangelnamedcecil4958]

@@arachnozure Oddly enough no. I did discover WTNV shortly after, though!

[@cerberaodollam]

"fruity boobs" I should NOT have been drinking when you said that 😅😅

[@Leena79]

Imagine if aliens formed their idea of what women look like reading these. 🤣

[@melissabarrett9750]

😱😱😱

[@charlespentrose7834]

It would certainly explain some video game characters.

[@John_Weiss]

Are we sure that weren't written by aliens trying to describe human female bodies from a report taken by a past expedition? You know, kinda like those eldritch-horror pictures of "giraffes" produced by people who had never seen one and were going off of descriptions of giraffes?

[@tamarinmangold1414]

​@@charlespentrose7834 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sofia_paliy]

They would be horrified...

[@Laura-gb1jv]

That subreddit gets so much content, it's hard to keep abreast of it's trends ...

[@KristiChan1]

Badum tsh 🥁

[@maxwellg.2755]

"So... she was aroused by an arm going around her... interesting... dude has skill..." 🤣

[@leahbeth8335]

"The uselessness of a woman's face" is some damn confusing misogyny. Like, is their ideal woman Celty from Durarara?

[@leahbeth8335]

@Ville I think you replied to the wrong comment, my dude.

[@KristiChan1]

@Ville Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Non dolore placeat est numquam eius qui sequi totam. Aut dignissimos autem aut voluptatibus nisi eos nisi quidem ab voluptas exercitationem. Est enim dicta ad velit minus et harum aliquid sit tenetur molestiae est magni quos vel quibusdam voluptatum ex dolor mollitia. Aut illum vitae est nesciunt saepe ea rerum cupiditate est sequi animi qui eveniet assumenda. Ea nobis quidem At dolores reiciendis rem nulla dolorem At corrupti sint! Et accusamus animi qui molestias nihil eos nemo beatae ut reiciendis odio ad enim dolorum et delectus autem! Aut porro ipsam vel velit dolor vel tempore explicabo. Et quae voluptas in sint accusantium hic possimus obcaecati ut quia fuga qui enim autem.

[@untipocualquiera3583]

​@@KristiChan1 ¿Es eso frances? No sabría decirlo, la verdad. Sea como fuere, voy a aportar a esta charla multi-linguistica mi pequeño granito de arena. Viva Cristo Rey, amén.

[@KristiChan1]

@@untipocualquiera3583 Es texto aleatorio en latín. No sé qué tiene que ver Cristo con eso.

[@untipocualquiera3583]

@@KristiChan1 Solo una pequeña aportación! Siempre es buen momento para alabar al creador. Así que latín, eh? Meh, estaba suficicientemente cerca.

[@alisteruiz]

Why do these guys describe how somebodys breasts are moving in the most unrealistic way possible

[@insideAdirtyMind]

and in the most painful way....

[@BeautyMonster1000]

Probably because they've never been anywhere near actual boobs... and writing like this they never will be. 😜😂

[@lif6737]

Too much Dead or Alive: Swimsuit Edition

[@tjenadonn6158]

Some men don't have enough blood to operate their brain and their trouser trout simultaneously.

[@kiwiorishi]

@@lif6737 That's what I was thinking.

[@GoingSwimmingly]

I just adore how you can see Jamie’s sanity drain out of him the more the video goes on pAHAH- Thank you for suffering for the sake of our entertainment

[@GayGothPirate]

As a man who doesn't really like boobs I always get whiplash when I read how some authors desribe them. There are very few times where they even need to be described. I don't get it.

[@purplebean7]

I'm honestly just amazed that Jamie is able to get through filming these videos. I would either get really annoyed and give up, or die laughing, about two seconds in

[@calamityjean1525]

Who knows, besides Jamie, how many times he has to edit out a fit of laughter?

[@maidden]

Sometimes I try to do some creative writing and I feel like I'm not talented enough, comparing my words with the greats. But then I see stuff like this and realize the bar is so low, I shouldn't feel bad at all. Just have fun with it, because there's so much worse out there.

[@kylianthehylian]

I swear they told aliens to write a romance novel after getting a vague description of a woman from another person who has no idea what a woman looks like

[@John_Weiss]

You got that sense, too, eh? 😆😉

[@theredking1569]

I've never heard so many poorly written descriptions of women. And that "painted over a tarantula" line almost made me fall out laughing at how awkward it was. Great video btw.

[@momamiandkiddokelsi9027]

❤🧡💛💚💙💜🏳️‍🌈 Daily reminder; You are valid and amazing just the way you are! 🏳️‍🌈❤🧡💛💚💙💜

[@p-__]

My farts are better than Jamie’s farts

[@Arrowi]

So true!

[@veles3066]

I love that I see you everywhere

[@momamiandkiddokelsi9027]

@ur mum what is your preferred gender/pronouns? I will validate you today so you can return tomorrow to find strength! You deserve to be treated right! 🥰

[@fangeek96]

@burned.asparagus YOU GOT THIS 💙 🌈 they/them here

[@SailorSaturn1994]

I really wanna say that women with bound feet can't run because the feet are literally broken in a way that prevents efficient moving, so that description is super unrealistic in every possible account

[@AlexanderStark]

I'm pretty sure they meant "bound feet" in the sense that her ankles were tied/bound together, which would have meant she was "bunny-hopping" to move (which kiiiiinda explains the "boobs bouncing in all directions" sentiment, even if that's not what her boobs would actually do during that kind of movement, lol). Could be wrong, though!

[@mariomaniac581]

To be fair if somebodies boobs were somehow bouncing in all directions like helicopter blades on their chest, it'd be hard to focus on anything else ngl

[@dakotakae]

Hi Jamie! I love your videos, and your videos about your relationship with Shaaba really helped my partner and I navigate our own trans+cis relationship as I began my transition. We appreciate you!

[@dakotakae]

@stop lgbt have fun with that little bro

[@properantagonist]

The 1916 dude seems like he firmly believes the beautiful blond lover is himself, but he probably failed to notice that she likely left him for a man who actually valued her and didn't think of her as an empty-headed gossiper. That even if he was the most conventionally attractive man on the planet, most women would rather choose a "fatter, uglier" man that treats them like human beings.

[@ihateunicorns867]

I get so sick of trying to explain why I gave up on a book that a friend had recommended when the women are just written really badly. They always want me to explain it to them. I just want to read a good novel.

[@tinnagigja3723]

"A halter top with spaghetti straps that cut into her shoulders" makes no sense to me. The straps would be digging into her neck, surely.

[@fangchick93]

I recently read a fanfiction that in the intimate scenes described "pouting nipples", the actual story was good, but that weird description stood out

[@BringDeathByPickles]

I am actually currently working on an art project containing painted tarantula molts. I can tell you after if they do indeed look like pubes through lycra shorts, or not. XD

[@caracaracat2958]

Most of these snippets of text just make me want to say out loud “what???” Lmao.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

This Subreddit is a gold mine for pop culture dissection. Also, a great space for writers to learn.

[@thedailybullshit4033]

IK the “no angularity” is probably meant to signify soft features (I think) but my 1st thought was “she has no joints?!?!?”

[@TyphinHoofbun]

In my writing, I tend to barely give any physical description to most characters. Partially to let people fill in their own ideas, but mostly because I don't really think of people by their physical bodies unless prompted. Humans all look alike to me. ^_^;; So I write stories about main characters that aren't human anymore, so they literally don't pay attention to such things.

[@Yes_this_is_my_cat]

"I don't care what the boobs are doing" 0:48 ~ Jammidoger, 2023

[@Sophie_the_Sapphic]

4:46 this reads to me like a 4tran post. or basically a trans women with a lot of internalized misogyny and transphobia.

[@wind6339]

It just seemed like they were making up excuses for wishing to be a woman, and being like “I only say this because I’m sexist, I promise! I am a totally normal man!” while in reality possibly not being a man

[@Jackie_XIII]

I'm a member of this subreddit and even commented exactly what you said and more on that first post

[@ConstantChaos1]

The fringe one was decent the description was not excessive and the woman reacted in a normal way

[@mirandarensberger6919]

Yeah, for that I felt like it was the character more than the writer.

[@iantaakalla8180]

That was very clearly “the man was horny/invasive/misogynistic/unaware of social norms”.

[@libraryoflilylol199]

I feel like it should be the other way around where someone who has experience gets aroused easier because they're anticipating a thing they already know they like.

[@calamityjean1525]

"...someone who has experience gets aroused easier...." Unless it's someone who has had only bad experiences and is anticipating something they know they don't like.

[@sina.apfelsine]

Does anyone know why Summer Luk disappeared? 😢 She's a trans singer, model, influencer, activist from Toronto. Her accounts have suddenly disappeared around 3 or 4 weeks ago🥺 Fans are super worried, can't find her on youtube, insta, tiktok,... She was living in Canada since last year, after moving from her (toxic) family in Hong Kong .

[@dandelion_16]

I didn't know she was gone, but that is very concerning as her family was looking for her. Anything I can do, you think?

[@Taradoxxi]

I thought she changed her surname, but are all her accounts gone under all names? That would be alarming because I remember her talking about her family trying to force her to detransition.

[@dandelion_16]

@@Taradoxxi What did she change her name into? Also I feel if it was her breaking with the past, she would have geven us a heads up, no?

[@sina.apfelsine]

Trying to reach out to other influencers from our community. Leave comments on their insta/ tiktok also. Especially people who have worked with Summer and met in person. Maybe they have her private WhatsApp and contact her. That's my only idea yet.

[@sina.apfelsine]

@@dandelion_16 Another idea, if she has an agency for modeling/ music or her producer, maybe we can find someone there who knows what's happening.

[@LunarSpoonHasFun]

Reading these sorts of descriptions, as a writer, gives me confidence in my own work.

[@ZnotQ633]

Props to whomever wrote “wtf dude” and “ew” next to that 1916 poem.

[@albuszx]

"she had no angles on her body whatsoever, even though her body was erect, mmhmm" I CHORTLED SO HARD I HURT MY THROAT

[@naluzoniro]

I think his mind wandered away from women, there, for an instant

[@EdgedPixie]

What kind of geometry was she, not having any angles?!

[@simplymeowlogical]

I am yet again requesting aro, ace and agender videos. I will not stop unril they've arrived!

[@melissabarrett9750]

New terms... What are aro and ace? I guess that aro is aromantic, but ace has me staring cluelessly into the void. Asking from genuine curiosity and respect

[@Specters0rd]

​@@melissabarrett9750 Ace is a nickname for people who are Asexual. (People with little to no sexual attraction).

[@simplymeowlogical]

@@melissabarrett9750 Yes, aro stands for aromantic (can also be pronounced "arrow"), an aromantic person experiences little to no romantic attraction. As already said Ace stands for asexual. And don't worry, you question wasn't offensive!

[@ChaniBethyPooPoo]

This almost makes me want to write a story about sentient, personified breasts with weird and specific descriptions about them littered throughput at the most irrelevant points in the story. 😆

[@upliftothers4599]

It should be a comic too, like crypitd club style lol

[@ChaniBethyPooPoo]

@@upliftothers4599 Brilliant! 😆🤓

[@b.e.a.n.s_]

I need this community's advice... My parents aren't homophobic, but they are transphobic. I really want to come out as non binary so I can just be myself, but I'm afraid they won't think of me the same way.. I recently cut my hair (buzz cut) and I'm afraid they will start questioning even more than they even are. Do you have any tips for me? Should I come out or just move out as soon as I can and then tell them?

[@alisteruiz]

I personally its best to move out first, but whatever happens, youre safety is the most important thing

[@error-zq8yo]

Keep yourself safe, if you think its safer to not tell them yet don't

[@stickynote-slumber]

I don’t have any experience with this, but I do still want to help, so I’ll try my best... As everyone else is saying, make sure you’re safe before coming out. At least ask them why they’re transphobic before coming out, or make sure you have a place to stay if things go wrong. Let them know that you’ll always love them, no matter what. (…Unless you don’t love them. That’s fine.) If they’re the type of person to say “but it’s not natural!”, they’re wrong. There’s dozens of animals that have shown to act like like their opposite gender, there are gender-based medical conditions (if that makes sense), and it is natural. And we’re not wild animals, anyway. We’re humans, not ants. We can change. I apologize if I said something wrong, I just wanted to help, and I hope I did.

[@lif6737]

At the end of the day, you need to balance your sense of security and your sense of self. Coming out can be tough, especially in an unaccepting family, but being able to openly be your authentic self is so important. What makes these situations so hard is that we know who we are, but in seeking to appease our families we often have to, in a sense, deny who we are for their approval. In coming out, we can truly unabashedly accept ourselves, but it may come with others refusing to accept you. It’s fair to wait out of your own safety, but if you feel secure enough, sometimes you need to take that leap of faith and come out. Family can often surprise us, both in how understanding they can be, or unfortunately how monstrous they can be. If they love you, they’ll be willing to hear you out and they’ll come around, but sometimes what we need is to surround us with other people who do accept who we truly are. You deserve to be loved and accepted, and those who deny you that may not be people you should keep in your life forever. Wishing you the very best

[@KristiChan1]

If they're transphobic, I'd recommend waiting until you've moved out. When you're still living with your parents and if they're not good people, it's easier for them to control you. Do you have any friends or other family members you trust to come out to who won't tell your parents? That might be a good alternative so you don't feel like you're entirely on the closet.

[@StephenBoothUK]

As soon as Jamie mentioned balls being low hanging I was immediately transported to each time I’ve been to see The Rocky Horror Show. Narrator talks about storm clouds. Audience: Describe your balls Narrator: Heavy, black and pendulous

[@dexstewart862]

This makes me want to.write a story all about a pair of boobs in an odd couple scenario. The left boob is all lazy and sloppy, the right is hard working and keeps everything clean. In the end, the boobs learn to accept their differences and they become the best of friends.

[@kepler_drew853]

*the BREAST of friends

[@yourneighborhoodana4584]

Love ur videos! Men writing women is one of my fav kinds of videos!

[@Aerials135]

i like to think that the "shades of blue selected because of her eyes" were not in fact similar to the colour of her eyes, which were brown

[@linden5165]

I do not understand how this happens so frequently. Do they not have editors or friends who can pull them aside and give feedback...??

[@KxNOxUTA]

You mean ..... male editors and friends .... cause that's so gonna help? X'D How high do you think the chances of such ppl are to be friends with any feminists ... or women?

[@jackolantern333_]

These always make me glad I’m a gay male writer. But even if I were straight, I’d like to think I wouldn’t be distracted by my character’s boobs when I’m supposed to be advancing the plot

[@Tanyathestoryteller]

When I read Interview with the Vampire, I was actually surprised at the amount of times "her breasts" were written by Anne Rice. But it's nothing like what's in this video lol

[@skyetheuniversalspy]

every time i see this subreddit I facepalm at the stupidity of these authors

[@jenniferbenedict2223]

Honestly "fruit hanging from a tree" better describes balls than breasts...

[@morganc.m1830]

Apparently I'm the only one who hates that word it seems.

[@nathanmello4407]

​@@morganc.m1830 - Yes, you are

[@EagleTimberWolf]

@@morganc.m1830 Given the frequency at which you're responding to almost every single comment that mentions balls, I'm under the impression that this is more about wanting attention than actually being triggered by the word.

[@CelestialBunnyPaws]

Also, with the lack of commas, I initially thought she tied back her hair _and_ breasts with the bandana. 🤭

[@martianpudding9522]

Some of these could be pretty well written impression of closeted gay men or trans women with a lot of internalized homo- and trans phobia Like the "mens faces are so much better than women's" and "i wish I could be a woman so I could hang out with female friends and wear makeup and talk about fashion" stand out to me

[@theembersinside1420]

I guess I'm a "virgin forever" since I chose not to have children even though I've had many partners. 🤦🏻‍♀️ lol.. Wow, the ideas some men have.

[@jessicaholscher4097]

5:51 and they try to say trans is a new thing.

[@FayeisHere]

Excuse me Jamie but breasts bounding in all directions when you run is absolutely possible. Mine came out of my sports bra and hit me in the face when I did a head stand in college PE. If I run shirtless, they go in circles lmao

[@Not3HobbitsInATrenchcoat]

5:50 That is when i realized that my initials are E.W

[@matts1392]

The other day, I was watching a video from a channel run by a dog groomer. One comment thread had a handful of transphobes making random transphobic troll comments on this video of a dog getting groomed. It was bizarre. But one of these transphobic trolls was calling itself Jamie Dodger (I guess they couldn't be bothered to work out how you actually spell your name). So I guess now there are random transphobic accounts pretending to be you, probably to try to discredit you. Guess you must be striking a nerve if transphobes feel threatened enough to try to discredit you.

[@John_Weiss]

This sort of sh1t3 angers me. Impersonating someone else to put words in their mouth _angers me_ greatly.

[@sociallyundead419]

I was JUST binging menwritingwomen posts a couple days ago!! Perfect timing!!

[@DigiVixen]

I lost it when you started your little sing song bit. I'm in legit tears! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@aliceplanque]

They're often not sadly 😔

[@tod1way]

When you changed it to "balls", I was laughing so hard I was crying! 😂🤣

[@kibabell]

Flannel flabric 😂😂😂 I love you Jamie!

[@mathsthetic]

okay ive been thinking about one of the first posts and writing it from the perspective to a trans guy "his chest was unbound as he ran, boobs going in every direction" it went from bad description of women to an accurate description of me running lol

[@Insertia_Nameia]

See, that's reasonable. Boobs, no matter the size, actually do that. Especially if you aren't wearing the proper bra for running. (And since I wear none at all, any time I so much as jog. And I have tiny boobs.)

[@YukikoEx]

"He was wearing clothes, otherwise his balls would fly in every direction" there you go :D

[@Nakia11798]

Can confirm, breasts do NOT jut out under flannel pajamas.

[@bearo8]

Can confirm as well. Flannel (and any other loose and heavy fabric) just kind of falls straight down from them so they can't just out because everything further down than the top most point is a straight area...

[@tjenadonn6158]

Yeah, when I think form fitting clothes and fabrics flannel is down near taffeta. It's the least form fitting of the fabrics that isn't actively flouncy.

[@JDMimeTHEFIRST]

They aren’t even writing female characters. They just describe cartoon female bodies. In fact, you should hire a cartoonist to draw these descriptions exactly as written 😅

[@theasexualvampire13]

"Ample breasts but not too" doesn't even sound grammatically correct.

[@tjenadonn6158]

"Ample breasts, but not two." Precisely π breasts.

[@AynneMorison]

bound feet are almost impossible to run on to begin with. The bones break as the feet deform and rarely heal in a way that makes them stable. If you have ever done any research on foot binding... you know she's not Running

[@SLYKM]

Bounce in all directions sounds like an ecchi anime, they have to watch anime.

[@beardlyinteresting]

"Like a painted tarantula" had me laughing so hard I had to pause the video. At least they weren't describing breasts.

[@realfingertrouble]

I looked up the author of that 'To Be A Woman' poet, cos I wondered if it was one of the WW1 poets. No it's a Portugese poet Mário de Sá-Carneiro who kllled himself a month and a half after writing that.... o.O

[@zeykriid]

maybe it’s bc I’m ace but every time I see these vids, I, as a male writer, try to remember literally any time I’ve ever mentioned the main love interest’s chest and I legit don’t think I have aside from mentioning her chest plate itself literally ONCE bc it had a weapon thrown at it why r ppl like this

[@paradoxtatorstudios9681]

Same lmao, also as an ace. I wrote my own female character without describing her breasts _once_ , it's not that hard 😂 but people like the men in this video can't write a single woman without giving specific details about such an unimportant part of her body-

[@wanderingspark]

I looked up pliant in my computer dictionary, and the usage example it gave was "pliant willow stems", so I think it's safe to say that the word pliant is usually applied to wood. How the heck does being slender make a person easily bendable anyway?

[@springwood1331]

One definition of willowy is 'tall, slender and graceful ' so maybe it was a really bad attempt at describing them in that way?

[@toomanyopinions8353]

Honestly I'm very confused, I have never heard "pliant" used in reference to wood. Usually people, definitely never wood. Maybe the wood usage is more common in the UK? Go look further into the definitions besides the first Google definition (try Merriam-Webster, for example), and you will see that there are many other definitions to the word. None of them were being used correctly in the sentence from the video, though. Most common usage I have seen of the word, honestly, is to describe a submissive person in a sex scene.

[@toomanyopinions8353]

I do think that being slender would make someone more bendable though. I'm struggling to describe why, but I'm pretty sure it's a thing. Lack of muscle mass, maybe?

[@lindaarmstrongjackman9788]

😁👍👍”Low hanging fruit” 😂❤️ Did the writer pull out some type of calliper or measuring device to ascertain what the tight amount of ample was?? 🤔😂

[@lark7655]

I'm personally choosing to believe despite the unlikelihood of it that the 1916 poem about wanting to be a woman is just secretly a trans girl who has to imbue her poems with misogyny so they can get published. Good for her, I hope she's doing well being a coffee drinking bimbo that she aspires to be, she knows what she wants in life and i applaud her for it

[@cathe8282]

The descriptions of women aren't good but I can honestly say I've never seen a leather jacket with fringe around the neck! Usually these are "tell me you don't understand women without telling me you don't understand women" but this is "tell me you've never looked at clothes...".

[@forrestwallace8741]

not me getting a bra ad during this video