THG's Goalie Power Rankings, December 11th 2024 Edition

[@salamander8567]

Vejmelka the greatest goalie in Utah history

[@8thsinn]

Coughs in Darcy Keumper

[@justjohnny420]

​@@8thsinnWhen did Kuemper play for Utah? 🤨

[@acdii]

Jaxson Stauber. Watch him. He is 7 for 8 games played in his rookie career for NHL and 29 and 18 in the AHL. Score a goalie goal and shutout last year, first one in AHL history. He is the one to watch out for in Utah.

[@JohnJMcEh]

I think a games played column would be nice for the next goalie power rankings. Great video again as always Shannon

[@tiger5869]

It could also be cool to see their country on the board

[@Hawkeydad94]

Saros is the only one on the preds keeping them from being completely blown out every game. I feel so bad for him. He's a great goalie.

[@markgirard4023]

Yeah same with Dostal on the Ducks

[@lordec911]

Veji has always been streaky. He gets really hot for a stretch and then drops off a cliff. Hope this means he found his game and stays consistent.

[@salamander8567]

He played his best hockey when he was getting shelled every night behind a terrible Arizona team. If he leaves Utah, I think he’d do well on a team like Colorado or Edmonton

[@johnbap18]

It’s nice to see Montembeault get recognition!

[@Zurrke]

Yeah he's been hot this year, jealous as an avs fan.

[@hughjass1044]

"The Leafs are going nowhere with that goalie tandem..........." "......... is a statement which hasn't aged well.

[@bucketophil]

Leafs fan here but they still haven’t gotten anywhere yet. Don’t get ahead of yourself.

[@hughjass1044]

@@bucketophil You're right of course; plenty of time yet to kamikaze the season. But like many I'm sure, I am amazed that such a tandem has done so well so far. And as an Oilers fan, I'm SMFH that Stolarz was in our system not all that long ago and we tossed him.

[@20thCenturyManTrad]

@@bucketophil I'll just say, thus far, this tandem has paid dividends. The playoffs are where the real test begins, however, both Stolarz and Woll have had statement wins, something the Leafs have lacked for a long time. I'm always fearing the collapse, however, this tandem has been great.

[@InsignificantNick]

Logan Thompson should be on team Canada. No cap.

[@butcherpete2286]

Not one single cap. Crazy.

[@20thCenturyManTrad]

Well he is a Cap. (someone had to say it)

[@stevenst6337]

I agree but what goalie would you drop him for? Personally I think Binnington

[@butcherpete2286]

@stevenst6337 hill

[@jeffreym.8957]

Not a Binnington fan. However, the team likes that he plays for Canada in the World Championships - answer the bell, get bonus points.

[@delby66]

Stolarz was a very good back-up goalie in Florida last year. Now that he's a starter in Toronto, he's even better. The Leafs finally have a very good tandem in goal.

[@YungKilogram]

​@@randombutrelevantJack Campbell was excellent for Toronto

[@HYP3DSNIP3R]

​@@randombutrelevant I'm not sure his voice motivated the guys the way it needed to anymore. Especially the way he would deflect accountability by blaming the refs non stop. Makes sense with why they went with Berube imo, that toronto team can win a cup but hasn't ever made a deep run. With Berube they'll definitely figure out if they need to move some core players.

[@MrHolmgren194]

Always a pleasure Shannon. Been without internet for eleven days because of a move, relocation, change of living quarters, and it`s been driving me nuts so i want to whish you and the family a merry christmas and a happy new year!

[@JaredLS10]

It be nice if the Wings could actually put the puck in the net to compliment Talbot's play.

[@jessepylvalainen2288]

"Saros says: Hi"

[@thanos2588]

Imagine how good the Oilers or Avalanche would be if they used 3 million to sign Stolarz instead of players like Jeff Skinner

[@Marixa1979]

We'll see when we get a better sample size of Stolarz vs. better teams.

[@Ben.Mangels]

​​@@Marixa1979He's doing quite well in GSAx, which should, if I understand it correctly, be less tied to the quality of the opposing teams.

[@Marixa1979]

@@Ben.Mangels I'm not sure that is completely true, the expected goals is measured by the location of where the shot comes from, I'm sure the quality of shots is still largely affected by the quality of the opponent and not as easily measured.

[@SaskatoonSaul]

ANOTHER 9 MILLION TO NURSE

[@davebank3218]

Imagine if edmonton drafted Whalsteadt or either made a trade for Askarov...

[@phyllis5256]

Yup... I absolutely love this one. Shannon, you are seeing what we see in Jets land pretty much every game from our MVP... I say thanks every day for the fact that we have Helle here.

[@JeffKing310]

Look at all the former Sens goalies there…

[@Nunnleberry]

It's criminal how Sens have managed their goaltending for years... They clearly thought potential was there when they drafted them... And they've been proven correct in the worst way

[@scoruja]

Starting to think Ontario and NY were built on an ancient FN burial ground or something! Spooky lol

[@ADHD_collector_in_the_YYJ]

Couldn't agree with you more about Thompson. Being an undrafted player I imagine he used to being overlooked and proving people wrong.

[@MarkCMG]

Thanks for the video! Great analysis! You're so right it is hard to rank them given how much they can swing based on the record of the team and how good the defense happens to be. It might be interesting to compare Georgiev and Blackwood first thirty games versus second 30 games when we get toward the end of the season.

[@doubledouble4g379]

Glad to see Talbot rebound to what he was in his early days with the NYR. Now if only the team in front of him could match his level...

[@brianshaughnessy4020]

University of Alabama-Huntsville legend. He played on some abysmal teams there but he still managed to make the NHL and have a fine career.

[@heathclark318]

THG Goalie rankings and the NHL's new commercial about tipping and goalies!!!! Fantastic stuff. Marchand making it hilarious! Love the NHL and the community around it!!!

[@GoodMenstruationAttitude]

I like this new format!

[@matejtrnovec9144]

Dacoord, Vejmelka, Thompson are absolutely underrated. In the opposite, proove me if Im wrong but Vasilvesky after that last season injury does not look like he used to and still is hugely relying on the defense (Hedman, Cernak, Perbix...)

[@tequila6306]

Skinners starting to heat up, love to see it

[@otto6702]

After a slow start Thompson's been unbelievable for the Caps. Hope he sticks around because he's the guy.

[@andersnilsson8303]

"I don't write very straight, do I?" Hilarious, because I think of that at times, when the bottom row leans into the next row quite heavily, and how THG will cram the other lines into the same space, but somehow, it works out in the end. Good on you, Shannon! (I'm terrible at writing on whiteboards, so it's no dig, just an observation...)

[@RxCthulhu]

Vejmelka kept UHC afloat, they've been able to play some good hockey with him between the pipes.

[@tydrenning6162]

Minnesota sporting the best blue line in hockey making Gustavsson look like Vezina contender

[@wadeberg4912]

Won't be with Brodin and Middleton both out!

[@jetswhiteout961]

Hellebuyck setting himself up to enter hall of fame talks. I remember many years ago when we were concerned if he would be our starter, lol

[@Martinoalsrup]

Absolutely wild list to me.

[@peacebringer8]

Honestly, at first I was a bit upset Stealarz wasn't top 5, but then I saw the stats of the guys above him and was chocked lol Great video as always! Toronto has a very solid Tandem this year, and I hope we keep it together for them 😄

[@sharkhaos_probably]

As a Sharks fan this is a based list and I can't wait to see Askarov on it in the future

[@dylanzipperer7103]

Logan Thompson! CAPS CAPS CAPS ❤🎉

[@abovewater6918]

Thompson and Talbot not being considered for Team Canada certainly is a decision

[@Sethstrat]

Carolina constantly fumbling the bag

[@harrykim9914]

If thompson takes montembeault spot in team canada, then there are no players from quebec in the team, not to mention the games will be played in montreal

[@Malcstaa]

Hellebuyck was #1 last time you did this too

[@maxfish4270]

Goalies with 10+ wins that did not make the list : Lankinen, Markstrom, Bobrovsky (13), Kochetkov (12), Skinner, Rittich (10) - #2 Vejmelka is tied for 46th at only 4 wins. #4 Dostal, #5 Talbot, #16 Saros, and #17 Blackwood are tied at 28th with 6 wins. #11 Oettinger is tied for second most wins at 14 and #1 Hellebuyck is first with 18 wins.

[@LilWeggies]

Not sure how it’s not translating to top tier numbers but UPL has been consistently good this season with the sabres… about the only thing good with that team

[@philbegnone6646]

Thanks for doing this list, and others like it. I know if i was doing them, I'd either end up bald or rolled up in a ball on the floor rolling around mindless singing koombaya

[@tydrenning6162]

Logan Thommer the TRUTH

[@jeremyday212]

So the guy that’s most likely gonna start for team Canada can’t make the power rankings? You’re killing me Shannon. Sometimes the numbers don’t lie, but sometimes they are misleading. Binnington is big a time goalie with big moments against tough teams. Most coaches in the league would want him front of that goal crease for the gold medal game.

[@ipsbz]

First bad goal, and Binnington will throw a tantrum like a child, then it's game over for Canada

[@stevie-pea]

Logan Thompson - former Brandon Wheat King 🎉👏

[@TonySchiavone6]

I currently have four goalies on my fantasy hockey team. Stolarz, Woll, Shesterkin, and just added blackwood. Worst numbers are Igors......Hoping that blackwood works out in Colorado. Wins should go up, and hoping the save percentage and goals against dont go to the negative too much.

[@aaronberg221]

"Minnesota penalty kill near the bottom at times this year" ya you could say that. In fact that is the one thing that is preventing the Wild from being realistic contenders in cup discussions. If they either focus on not having any penalties or dramatically improve their PK faceoff, watch out as they somehow will be the force no one saw coming. At minimum a 2-3rd round exit!

[@Liam-Welch]

Talbot should’ve made team Canada, he’s been leagues better than any of those goalies this year

[@gregdyck6479]

Helley #1, and rightfully so!!

[@wild_insomnia]

Shannon is Yoda of hockey

[@Haboobz66]

2 out of top 4 goalies are Czech 🇨🇿🇨🇿🇨🇿❤ our defensemen in NHL are almost nonexistent but goalies always deliver💪

[@moeperry5996]

Joey is very young, excited for the future

[@Casistrophic]

Pyotr Kochetkov is about to go on an amazing run, I can feel it in my bones

[@fore_bears]

Yes player rankings are great content especially for fantasy players

[@thebikewatcher9819]

I know players wanto to play, totally get it. However, I still think the timing of Vasy's back surgery, and when he returned, has been the factor in his play. Obviously he's not getting younger, but he's not an old head just yet, so hopefully he's still on the mend, and can get back to form. With that said, I still wouldn't want anyone other than the Big Cat as out net minder!

[@Chaosmite]

Shannon, you can use a yard/meter stick to create straight line to help straighten out the board. Just a suggestion, not telling you what to do with your boards.

[@Hockeynut73]

When He was talking about Thompson and Cassidy and said I don't Know I said Third Base.....lol .....

[@mason698]

JORDAN BINNINGTON IS AN AMAZING GOALIE I PROMISE (let me hear it non blues fans)

[@TheOriginalTuhat]

I mean he IS better than half the guys on the board Does this channel have a lot of blues fans or something? I see them everywhere here

[@Zurrke]

Oh he's very good. He's also a complete douche. Kinda ruins it for me.

[@heldermoreira8554]

No need to speek so loud ...

[@TheOriginalTuhat]

@@Zurrke thoughts on MacKinnon?

[@jacobdill4499]

​@@Zurrke Binnington has been better about not punching people recently. You might need to re-evaluate your impression.

[@Ben.Mangels]

Hill has been much better recently. He's also had at least one game that I remember that he played amazingly, but was below .900

[@MarkelScott100]

The 4 3 ot game he stole us a point that game forgot who it was his last game allowing 4 or more

[@DirtyMoneyHipHop]

Glad we have Ullmark, but as a Sens fan, it is tough to see Talbot, Daccord, and Gustavsson in the top 10. I still can't believe the Leafs took Murray and Korpisalo from us, even if a bit of money was retained in both deals I believe. Cheers

[@chrisfortin984]

Its funny how 3 goaltenders in the top 9 were in Ottawa and shipped either for nothing or Dorion paid teams to take them. Thats why he will never be a GM in the NHL ever again.

[@camtheelectrician]

@@chrisfortin984 Miss daccord and gusto so much

[@chrisfortin984]

@camtheelectrician ya hopefully Staios cleans up the mess Dorion left and we can look past all this misery

[@Adam-vx6to]

Stolarz needs to be top 3. Ranking at 6th seems objectively and subjectively inaccurate to me

[@tymmeh2233]

Kevin Lankinen?

[@Huddy1993]

I thought so too at first, though it looks like the Lankinen situation is an anomaly. His numbers just aren't good, his GAA and Sv% are 18th and 19th respectively(for goalies with 10+ games) and his GsaX is 0.3 through 20 games. Basically every metric points to him being average. Though the eye test could have fooled me.

[@tymmeh2233]

@ I mean he’s only 900k id reckon he’s on a way better contract on what he’s giving us than at least one goalie on that list

[@Huddy1993]

@@tymmeh2233 Assuredly, but being paid less doesn't make him a better goalie.

[@tymmeh2233]

@ alright. Casually leading the league in shutouts too all I’m saying

[@Huddy1993]

@@tymmeh2233he’s tied for it, but yes. His numbers indicate that the team in front of him probably should get the credit for those more than him as an individual.

[@BraydenKing1972]

Toronto having the least goals against in the nhl right now is crazy to me Stolarz best save% in nhl Woll 4th best save% in nhl

[@Dan.1.2.3]

3/10 former Sens goalies.

[@ryankrause618]

winnington snubbed

[@ramolong]

To think the Panthers could be a bigger powerhouse if they had better goaltending

[@TonySchiavone6]

They did have Stolarz last year out playing every other back up in the league, i mean all the starters. I wanted to keep him and move Knight. Maybe Knight figures it out in 3 or 5 years but right now he isn't even a quality back up. His talent is there, but his head is all screwed up. You can see it in his body language and facial expressions after each goal given up. One goal is like the end of the world to him even when they are up 3-1 after that goal.

[@ramolong]

@@TonySchiavone6If we could have kept Stolarz and then given Knight another year in the minors we would have a great duo for after Bob retires. But sadly we could not keep him😢

[@jayjopam8505]

That Helle contract lookin pretty damn good right now ...

[@JLW5646]

Bobrovsky has been great lately

[@FrankM-u1w]

So the Avalanche made the trade last week to get on Shannon's board, I get the timing now. I still had faith in Anunnen...

[@BigJuicyJerm]

Shannon….where is our Michkov video, please? Love, Philly

[@mikem1877]

Really curious to see Binnington's numbers

[@TheHockeyGuy]

moneypuck.com/goalies.htm He isn't a minus anymore, but he's not a top guy either.

[@VurtAbernathy]

All this just for Bobrovsky to go God mode for the only 2 months that matter during the playoffs and lead the Panthers to another cup.

[@boydriceisawesome2520]

Gustavson have been awesome I want Minnesota to win the cup since Dallas has been a bit disappointing

[@Malkil75]

If it weren't for an absolutely abysmal PK, the Wild would be even greater...

[@Simon-tc1mc]

These stats are too fancy for me 🤯

[@guyfrommybox]

Talbot has easily been the best signing from Yzerman

[@christopherrhorer5192]

It’s funny how the team that’s pretty much allowing the LEAST amount of goals per game isn’t being represented here. Hockey is so strange. Glad to see Vejmelka this high tho.

[@MarkelScott100]

Those first two weeks is still hurting hill stats he was allowing 4 goals a game than he found his game this last month

[@christopherkuzek9816]

great dive brother. i hereby award you an honorary masters degree in stats

[@VachisCZ]

Czech this out! Dostal and Vejmelka in top 5 😊🇨🇿

[@IMAGE_NT_HEADERS]

Binner #1 we know what we've got

[@Waardr1]

No mention of the Kings. People hyping Talbot when he’s actual Swiss cheese

[@ilai7893]

Hope Gibson gets traded already, need Lukas to be #1 outright

[@ShannonFerguson]

Interesting. Thanks.

[@ipsbz]

I'm looking for all those guys who were arguing with me a month ago telling me that Shesterkin is better than Hellebuyck. 👀 😅

[@nyern]

18 goalie power ranking, the day before the 18th world champion gets crowned at the age of 18 🤔

[@IceNinja2007]

Now only imagine if Detroit didn't have the 32nd worst PK...

[@toyfruit8065]

Woll is my main goalie in fantasy this year and he's only played 10 games 😭😭 how was I to know? (And it's a league where every goalie is taken, none lying around on waivers)

[@marksieber4626]

Mine too. Great pick up on our parts. He’s helped me shore up that position and keep my sanity.

[@nicholasbowling9933]

Bobrovsky said that Barkov would be a great goaltender, so where is he? 😂😂😂

[@nicholasbowling9933]

(Joking)

[@cheechmo42]

Barkov might be the most underrated goalie in the league

[@jmahan2828]

grid your board with tape : )

[@noneyobusiness499]

No lankinen? Odd to say the least. Tough look

[@wave640]

would be cool to add games started

[@JM-oy5yv]

Stolarz gotta be 5

[@SnarlyCharly]

As a Canes fan, I know this is a power rankings where we're gonna be bottom of the barrel, our netminders are so irrelevant that Shannon didn't even bother to go past 18 🙃

[@4517onlyglory]

With a 894 and missed a low danger chance every game, pk should be at the rock bottom

[@danmoore1678]

I keep hearing that save % is down across the league. These numbers are making it look like it might be an issue of soft penalty calls. There's some great numbers here for even strength.

[@dmonsef]

These advanced metrics stats for goalies look like rocket science if you don't know their meanings and how to read them. I honestly don't bother. Goalies don't go out on the ice thinking about metrics on the saves they make. They just go out there with one job, being the last line of defense(an Omega Supreme) in preventing the opponent from scoring goals. Goalies are either there to try to steal games or given their team a chance to win the game. Goalie SV% is down because goalie IQ of goalies has gone down quite a bit! Goalies are trained by repetition now with the VH/Reverse VH Butterfly technique. A lot of goalies are overusing it, going down too early and getting beat up high, just over the leg pads and on near-post shots. Goalies are cheating too much and getting burned for it at times. It used to be goalies were taught to stop the first shots, and if they stopped the rebounds that was like delicious gravy on the mashed potatoes! Now goalies are taught to stop the first shot and react to be in position for the rebounds. Some of them are looking bad in doing it! Goalies are bigger nowadays and they seem to overall play closer to the goal line. Goalies are not as aggressive coming out and challenging beyond the goalie crease, as compared to years past. Martin Brodeur use to say he hated the modern butterfly technique and good reason to why. He wasn't the biggest goalie, but he was one of the smartest goalies in his prime days. He was part of a select few goalies that studied the shooters and their shooting habits. Brodeur knew where you were going to shoot before the shooters shot the puck. He was very good in anticipating what type of shot would come in certain game situations. Hasek was good at it too, but also was a ridiculous great athletic goalie. He made it art that no one else could duplicate. Roy's art, was he was master of the original butterfly technique set forward by Tony Esposito. He made you shoot where he wanted you to shoot the puck. He gave the look of that is a good shot and then he took that look away. My point to these 3, plus some others goalies not mentioned, was their mental game(I call it the Goalie IQ, was top notch.). A good deal of today's goaltending, are dumb goalies. They don't use instincts/knowledge as much and just go on repetition of stopping certain type of shots their goalie coaches teach them to stop. Goalies are just becoming computer programs on how to stop pucks, like they are robots. Guess what, robots/computers are as dumb as the ppl who program them! The mental aspect of goaltending that was always important, has become lost!

[@baueranthony54]

Any chance that we can get a look into how each teams tandems rank at the end of the month?

[@nathanspreitzer6738]

Talbot going crazy and the Wings still suck and lose every game by a goal AHHHHHH

[@wuzupdawk66]

That Gustaffson pick didn’t age well in a mere 24 hours.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

One game isn't going to hit his numbers that hard.

[@BrianConway-o7n]

What about Stolen Games in future editions, where GSAx > GF-GA?

[@theShwab11]

Gustavsson should be #2 and Talbot is ranked way to high. Pretty good otherwise!

[@NintendoLAW]

No Bob?

[@rjhollinger]

I think because his save % is only .896 so far this year

[@NatsdadsamI]

Where is Skinner Shannon? Talbot over Skinner?

[@sebastiencarrieres8825]

So...Canada's goaltending is not that bad? It just lack name recognition and proper understanding from management.

[@Cclater]

Vejjie Vejjie Vejjie!!

[@teamsaunz]

Geez, 3 former Sens goalies in the top 9.