Things They Won't Tell You About Charging Your Electric Truck (EV Ford Lightning)

[@daytona3927]

You live in CA so you know this happened. We had our usual heat wave and we were told to raise thermostats, bla bla AND DO NOT charge your EV. And that's with less than 5% EV's on the road. Imagine when that number gets to 50% EV's on the road, the grid will be crashing every day. The geniuses here also want to shut down our last nuke plant, won't that be wonderful. I'll keep my gas-powered car.

[@apollomoon1]

Thank you. But they keep voting for the idiots that fuel this insanity.

[@axdesho]

Your honesty is so appreciated. It’s hard to get good valid information from electric vehicle people. Thank you so much!

[@JettersGarage]

Thanks for the feedback. Please subscribe to my channel would love your thoughts on other videos.

[@bowefamilyEV]

You can filter the charge location results by clicking on those lightning bolts so that it only shows the high-power DC fast chargers. This will keep things like the one at the apartment complex from even showing up. The reliability of the EA and other charger networks though has been a pain point for sure.

[@JettersGarage]

Thanks for the tip. Seems like we're supposed to figure it all out by hunting and pecking...lol

[@pstoneking3418]

I didn't buy my platinum to save the world, probably the furthest thing from my mind. 1sr reasonfor buying it, I've been an electrician all my life. Love new electrical gadgets. I installed my own 13 kw solar system. Have owned several Toyota Prius. Wanted an all electric but never bought one. Finally ford came out with all electric truck. I've owned GMC, Chevrolet, Dodge, & Ford trucks. My last 3 were F150. I traded in my 2014 F150 V8 & 2018 Prius which got the price down to about $50k. I put a down payment on a mannequin back in June 2022. So I had plenty of time to get to know the vehicle I'd own in 6 months. Test drove it every Monday for 2 hours, probably watched close to 100 youtube videos on it. After 4 months my dealer allowed me to take it for the weekends, then the final month, the owner of the dealership let me take it home for that entire month. So I was the one that put the majority of the 5k miles that were on it, when I took possession of it December 5th. 2nd reason I bought it was to rid myself of all the maintenance required on my ICE vehicles. I was also the mechanic that did all the work, that was required on them. 3rd reason as I mentioned I have solar that runs my home, with grid as backup and 11 kw generator as 2nd backup, now I have a 3rd backup, with a 10 awg drop cord I connect my truck bed receptical to my solar inverter/charger and charge my solar batteries while powering my home and everything in it, including my deep well pump & all the tools in my shop. It tows & hauls like my 2014 f150 did only much cheaper. I can drive approximately 100 miles for $5. I couldn't even drive my prius that far unless I could buy gas for $2,50/gal. I haven't seen those prices for many years. This has been a lengthy comment but wanted to express my true feelings about my lightning. One last key point. At the present this is not the best vehicle to buy for long distance traveling or towing. Not the trucks fault, that falls on the vehicle's charging infrastructure. Once there are as many charging stations as there are gas stations there won't be a range issue.

[@JettersGarage]

First of all thank you for the thoughtful comments. Where are you located in the country? You basically have the dream electrical setup. Plus it sounds like your electrical rates from the grid are amazing. I totally agree with all of your comments. Subscribe to my channel, I'll go over even more things that should be very interesting to you.

[@Chainyanker007]

Order a Cybertruck once they start taking final orders. But the Pre-order reservation list is about 2 million. It will be awhile before you get your CT, it will be way superior to other EV pickups, big question is the pricing.

[@gjforeman]

Seems like the charging locations could use a camera network you could pull up on your Ford display, showing status of the chargers, AND a live stream showing how many slots are currently in use. We were weighing a new plug-in hybrid or electric vehicle, but the vehicle we were looking for is primarily planned to be used for long-distance road trips. With the charging issues these days, we just bought a standard, gas-burning Subaru Ascent. 25 MPG, but NO PROBLEMS getting it fueled up and on our way.

[@MisterMikeTexas]

Will the electric meter spin faster than the Griswalds' at Christmas?

[@JettersGarage]

Only when fast charging.lol

[@apollomoon1]

Before they can fix all of these issues a better alternative will present itself. There are many on the horizon. Good video thanks for sharing.

[@yvongauthier4409]

@Jetters Garage; there is something that you should mention about the charging locations... over time you will know where the best ones are located in your area. The problems you've talked about would be more of an inconvenience when going on long trips. The biggest "pro" for EVs is that you can charge at home so you never have to go "fill up" somewhere

[@JettersGarage]

This is true and what I do 90% of the time. The problem is that if you only charge at home and need to go out of the norm it can be a big inconvenience for me at least. Not trying to be a negative nelly but speaking the truth as I see it. Thank you for commenting.

[@yvongauthier4409]

@@somersetcountymd yes, that is a problem that will have to be solved in the future. EVs aren't for everyone at this point. That's why I don't get the really bad negative feedbacks. EVs and the power grid expansion is still in it's infancy.

[@normang4]

@@yvongauthier4409 To assume that the EV charging problem will be resolved in the future, IMHO, is a pipe dream, with constant attacks (at least with current administration) on Fossil fuels, which are required to power the grid, on which charging relies, its not going to improve anytime soon. Not to mention the utter lack of grid improvement. This can also apply to ICE cars as they are making it harder and more expensive for gas production as well.... They are inter-connected. However, the battery problem is the biggest issue, they cost way to much, will never get cheaper because of the cost of gathering raw materials, and waste more of your life charging unless all you do is commute and nothing else from one charging station at work to the one you installed in your garage, if you have one, which many people don't. the list of cons for EV's really out-weighs any benefits, which they never really had.. They've always cost to much and will not get any cheaper... I can buy a lot of gas for the cost difference from most any EV to a reasonably priced ICE car.

[@vinsonhelton7141]

Very well balanced video about your situation with ev's. I live in Michigan which isn't as ev fast charging friendly as some other states especially if you live away from the city type areas. I have a chevy bolt and charge at home. Never need to charge at fast chargers. But I use the bolt for 95 or more percent of my driving. I have solar to and it's a lot easier to charge the bolt. My point is that ev's work awesome in certain situations right now so get one if it is in that parameter. Or wait til the parameters change. There are a lot of people in many different states that can use ev's to do most of their day in and day out driving and charge exclusively at home. Also they have more than one vehicle and can road trip or tow and haul with a gas vehicle and still benefit greatly.

[@JettersGarage]

I think you hit the nail on the head. Great feedback. Appreciate the comment.

[@abacusexpress]

Have Tesla manage ford pass app for the ev

[@stephenantoniou5695]

Thanks for this video, you really pointed out some problems with me buying an electric truck, which I seriously looked into. I live in Massachusetts and my truck is a work truck. My range with it is MA and RI and I have only seen one supercharging station in ALL of my traveling. One interesting thing you mentioned is that a few of the charging stations did not work. I think that is going to be a very real problem in the future and for arguments sake, I had the electrical trailer connection to my work trailer cut off in Fall River Ma because someone wanted the copper to sell for drugs! I cannot imagine chargers lasting to long around here. Thanks again for the REAL video. Guess I will have to wait and see what develops before I buy electric.

[@Esteban7GT]

Thank you for the awesome content. Definitely good to see someone addressing all of the great things and the challenges that come with ev ownership and in particular when it comes to ev trucks. Best wishes and keep up the great work!

[@JettersGarage]

Thanks so much brother! Appreciate the comment. Hope to see you subscribe.

[@Esteban7GT]

@@JettersGarage Already did! Looking forward to more!

[@frankconsidine5989]

Not including the loss of range when really cold weather or towing stuff

[@TaxmanHog]

If you used the FILTERS to isolate CCS stations by speed, you have a quick view of option in your vicinity 10:45 minute mark

[@JettersGarage]

Someone else mentioned that. That is an easy filter. Only thing is going to be that in most places you may not have the ability to choose. But it is good too to utilize. Thank you for bringing it up.

[@lanep4322]

This is why I bought a V6 gas powered Tacoma. Pull up to pump, fill up, go.

[@JettersGarage]

Tacomas are good trucks. Thanks for commenting.

[@johnrgoodman]

How long will it take to break even?

[@highrzr]

Nice setup as long as you got the money for it. Does that 10 year ROI include the cost of the Powerwalls? What is the lifespan of the panels and the Powerwalls? All of this stuff is way out of my fiscal means, and I don't see that changing for decades.

[@JettersGarage]

Yes, the 10 year ROI does include the Powerwalls. I live in San Diego, CA where the cost of electricity is the highest in the country. I was also able to get some solar tax incentives that made it pencil. If your electric rates are reasonable it may not be a viable option.

[@normang4]

@@JettersGarage Seems to me if you really wanted to save $$, move out of California, until the political climate there changes drastically, its only going to become far more costly to live there, as if it doesn't already.. Solar incentives mean that some other tax payers subsidized your panels. Which don't last forever and are not recyclable.

[@Chainyanker007]

@@JettersGarage- I don’t think rates are as high as in Hawaii, it doubled last year.

[@russellderonda1489]

Wish you would have talked about the cost of the solar panels, the power wall, the truck etc. Makes sense in Whackyfornia where power is crazy expensive but here is Florida power is not too bad and chargers are not as plentiful. What is it going to cost to upgrade the grid and what happens to those panels in a hurricane? And here my home insurance does not allow panels on the roof so limited placement options.

[@JettersGarage]

Florida has some things affecting it that I hadn't considered. Didn't realize you couldn't put solar on your roof in some areas and that insurance wouldn't cover it with high winds. It all make sense, just wasn't aware. Thanks for sharing.

[@tscoff]

I live in Cape Coral, Florida and I have solar panels on my roof. The ROI on solar panels in Florida is 12.5 years without a whole house battery backup. My whole house battery backup was a pure expense, but it paid for itself after Hurricane Ian. The eye of Hurricane Ian went over my house and it didn’t damage my solar panels. But I’m not close to the water.

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

I think you cut the video when you were about to say what to use an electric truck for. I plan to get an electric truck to replace my Tacoma if it ever gets totaled. Let's face it. The Tacoma will never die on its own. I did go 4 wheeling and off roading back in the day, but then I got a family and needed a back seat for baby seats and kids. Now youngest is off to college so back in the Taco I go but now I'm too old to be going off road in the wild.

[@JettersGarage]

Subscribe to my channel. I'm going to do a separate video about what I use the electric truck for.

[@SilverWatcher.]

Ford dealerships should have free chargers at their dealerships mandatory

[@Chainyanker007]

That will make them go broke even faster.

[@davidcarter592]

How much does it cost to charge

[@olegvihodets8680]

We had a lot of snow a week ago ... Our charger points at gas station are under snow.buried

[@knpstrr]

For those wondering, the Lightning is roughly 9-10 Tesla powerwalls. 2-4 powerwalls is plenty for most houses for backup with solar. The lightning is a beast

[@johnhill9583]

Very practical information. Well done.

[@pstoneking3418]

As much as I enjoy & love my lightning, I wouldn't have purchased it, if I had to use public chargers.

[@JettersGarage]

I agree. 99% of my charging is at home.

[@RKDriver]

The thing is, they can be great for making a cross-town run to Home Depot to pick up a small load or driving back and forth to work. Trucks however are meant to carry and tow loads often over long distances. People often use them to go on long excursions like trips to the mountains. I just don't see how they can be useful and dependable in those situations. They need to keep trucks in the hybrid realm.

[@jeffreyrichards922]

I feel similarly, however I have made three road trips with it. I found the trips to not be as nearly troublesome as we are led to believe. If I did road trips regularly then I wouldn’t have chosen the Lightning but for my use case it’s awesome!

[@JohnDoe-on7vm]

I heard that some of the tesla chargers have now opened to non tesla cars are there any near you? would love to see a video from you about it as a lighting owner. MKBHD has done a video on it since there way one near him but would love to see your take on it!

[@DanBudda]

You’re not a whiner, in fact you’re a EV romantic with a realist streak. Great video. Enjoy your truck and keep us posted on your travels and travails. Me, I’m sticking with my hybrid RX350h and my 36MPG with no plug involved. But I love hearing from you EV pioneering cowboys. Thanks for doing all the dirty work for the rest of us!

[@55yearoldfunjunkie]

Very informative videos man, and I’m not even thinking electric. Keep up the good work!

[@quartytypo]

Charging is a lot of work just to save the planet, but thank you for saving it for me.

[@JettersGarage]

Glad I could do my part. Haha Doesn't sound like you watched the video otherwise you would know what I said about that.

[@loveofsisrael]

mining lithium destorys the earth

[@pom044]

You can use it to power your house during an outage, but then you might have no power in your house and a dead battery in your car. I’ll stick with an ICE and a gas backup generator

[@JettersGarage]

That's also a good option. if you have solar you need backup battery power storage to keep your home going with an outage. Thanks for the comment.

[@carlosreyes7723]

Great video , waiting on my lightning hopefully soon after the recent production pause. I see you got a cover on your truck did it help with range?

[@JettersGarage]

Didn't help much on the range but love the Retrax cover. Can lock stuff in the back. Thanks for commenting.

[@raypruitt9955]

After buying all that tech did you really save any money?

[@JettersGarage]

I just did a video that breaks down actual costs. You should watch it. The answer to your question is mostly. haha

[@nofeerz]

how much for your preferred charging system? , my area KY quoted me $1500 to install a high amp tesla charger. people need to realize the least cost option is AT HOME and this MUST be included in the cost of the vehicle, away from home, big $$$ so with your 80 amp how long to fully charge?? so you have a charger where you work?? be advantage when tesla charging port is the standard wouldn't buy a non tesla till it had the tesla connection

[@davidandrew6357]

I was somewhat surprised to see that J-1772 at an Electrify America, because most EA locations don't have one. But since no PHEV can charge at a CCS1 fast charger, the J-1772 you dismissed, is what PHEV drivers need to use in order to keep driving electric, rather than shifting back to using gas. And with that lone CHAdeMO off-line, as they often are at EA locations, the J-1772 could become a Leaf drivers lifeline. Also some of us like to do something else, rather than just staying with the car while we charge, so my wife would love having a charger right buy a Target Store. A J-1772 with its slower charge rate, and lower price point per minute is well suited to that sort of opportunity charging.

[@phil4986]

Great video. First off, your F150 intro should be used by Ford because it really highlights the various features of the truck. Secondly, the apps need to get way better at showing the status of every charging unit real time. The entire charging process is digitally recorded real time so it would take nothing to tell you there are three chargers, two are not working at all and the third is occupied by a vehicle at 63% and that will require another hour to complete the charge. It is absolutely horse 'stuff' that the charging apps just give a ...there it is... location report. The digital information should be so complete as to prevent you from making fifteen stupid trips to fifteen places that have malfunctioning or occupied chargers. Thirdly, people don't have any right to say you are a whiner. The solar panels are at least thirty grand. I am guessing the Tesla walls were at least thirty grand and the truck is one hundred grand. The charger installation was probably another three grand. So that's $163,000 you spent before the Ford ever made a mile. (I know my numbers are probably hilariously low) A used ICE truck is less than ten to twenty grand, and it can outrange your truck forever towing anything. I know the solar panels and especially the Tesla battery walls let you reuse stored power but that's beyond a majority of Americans right now. Please keep updating us on your electric charging challenge experiences. The truth is always appreciated. I just hope your Ford is reliable for you. There have been some issues with batteries dying in new Ford Electric F150's recently. Covered by warranty though obviously.

[@JettersGarage]

The numbers you quote are high. The total cost on a solar system with 2 powerwalls after rebate in CA is about 30k. The Ford Lightning in my configuration is about 88k. Everything can be amortized. Hope this is helpful. Subscribe to my channel if the info is helpful. Thanks for commenting.

[@phil4986]

@@JettersGarage Wow, 30k is a great deal on that solar cell array and the two Tesla walls. I have seen quotes as high as 40 to 50 k for just the solar cells alone- lower after rebate. Maybe you could do a video about , "So,I decided to go solar electric, and this is what it took." I guess those are synthetic terra cotta tiles on your roof but man, what a wild roof to put solar panels on. I guess your HOA have to give you approval first .The Tesla power walls are a key factor in making your solar system a real benefit. I think often people just get the solar cells and then think, I don't have to pay for electric anymore. Storage is key. Thanks for the accurate info. Already subscribed. Can't wait for the next video whatever the subject.

[@jerryebner7582]

We put solar panels on our house but the quote of 80k to add batteries to the system made the battery not affordable but but solar panels have helped the power bill. 14:56

[@ElMistroFeroz]

Paying a premium for this technology won't guarantee you'll be champagne-problem free. It just makes you an early adopter. This being said, on behalf of poor people like myself, I would like to thank you for being at the front lines so we can buy them in the used market at a huge discount.

[@theJimmer66]

Anybody know where the raw materials for the batteries come from ? Asking for a friend.

[@JettersGarage]

I'm not sure but I heard it's the same stuff used in the batteries of your phone. Not sure, but a friend told me.

[@yvongauthier4409]

@@JettersGarage hahaha, exactly! The same batteries that power not only your cellphones but your cordless power tools, laptops, tablets, etc

[@Capthowdy098]

With the infrastructure issue, a lot of people saw coming. I am kind of surprised they didn't design a solar panel Tonneau cover or having some kind of alternator at each wheel. Not to replace charging but to have slower energy depletion. Or maybe I am living in a fantasy.

[@yvongauthier4409]

having solar panels on a vehicle would take weeks to charge making it inefficient and adding more cost. EVs already have "alternators" on each wheel and are used when braking or going downhill. You cannot gain more power running alternators than the power needed to turn them, heck you can't even run a generator that runs an electric motor that turns the generator (perpetual motion).

[@Chainyanker007]

Teslas have a Chill mode that dampens your ability to have blazing acceleration, I have mine Off, lol.

[@Casimir-t3i]

Charging stations should be modelled like gas stations. Charge on both sides and the ability to pull through.

[@Chainyanker007]

Can’t handle as many EVs with gas station layout. Can always put in a few drive thru stalls for those with trailers

[@heathwirt8919]

What they won't tell you is that when you charge it uses electricity.

[@JettersGarage]

Who wouldn't say it uses electricity? A bit confused...

[@Chainyanker007]

Only a real dummy wouldn’t know that. So here’s the deal, you don’t put gasoline in it.

[@JupiterAscending2]

You alone cannot save the world with using EV and solar panel. However, you are doing your part. I am doing my part. It takes many millions of people around the world converting their ICE vehicles to EVs to make a different. It is going to happen globally. The question is if the transition to zero emission is fast enough to catch up and reverse the climate change.

[@georgehendrixson8150]

It is great that you can produce your own electric for your vehicle and home use. Your plan can not be done all across the country. In some cases the climate of the area prevents this task and in some cases local laws and HOA's hurts this plan. Look talk about the availability of charge in your local area. Triple that problem if you are traveling looking for chargers. I believe you are actually talking people out of buying electric vehicles.

[@JettersGarage]

I think as long as people can make a good decision and know the truth. I'm okay with the outcome. Ultimately the grid and network needs to improve to make it a seamless transition for people.

[@timmoore9736]

Let's add to the fun: get about a 22 to 25 foot house trailer and go on a 1200 mile holiday. Good luck!

[@CallOnColin]

In that case, an EV truck -- although plenty powerful enough -- doesn't have the range capability yet to tow distances. However, not everyone needs to tow, and a truck can fit into many different lifestyles. It's still the best F-150 the common person can buy.

[@keithmccloud6722]

Hopefully you got the Tesla adapter by now.

[@gordongekko4752]

1. What are you energy company cash and non-cash incentives for buying an EV and Tesla Energy solar panels and Powerwall? 2. Here in Nevada, we get TOU = Time Of Use or EVRR Electric Vehicle Rate Reduction of $0.095 per kWh for the entire house from 1 October to 31 May. $500.00 cash for installing a Level 2 charger. Different TOU rates apply for the summer months from 1 June to 30 September. 3. There are many federal, state, county, city and energy company incentives. All you have to do is find them and apply.

[@JettersGarage]

I purchased mine about 3 years ago and there was a 30% total cost rebate from the feds.

[@gordongekko4752]

@@JettersGarage It was only 22%. 30% came with the passing of the IRA.

[@dylanfgarrison]

Take away: as long as you own a home, can charge at home and never have to use the vehicle to travel anywhere but around your own town a non-Tesla works just fine. Oh, and not living in CA helps a lot it seems.

[@outdoorsnevada4138]

IDK why anyone would think this wasn't going to be a bigger problem. Few people drive them, you rarely see charge stations. When you do see charge stations they aren't the brand of your car. And when you do find charge stations your 6th in line and each person ahead of you need 30 minutes or more to charge. Unless you are just charging at home and putt around town each day electric is not reliable enough yet. My in-laws have a tesla and a ram 3500. For long distance trips they now take the ram 3500 because of the headaches they have had fnding charging for the tesla or tired of the added time to their longer trips.

[@davidbruns1471]

Good option for charging at home and daily commuting, road trips not so much,Need charging stalls at gas stations !

[@Chainyanker007]

Some gas stations have converted to charge stations, for sure more coming.

[@Sommers234]

Nobody says it's gonna save the world. It's just a piece of a great big pie.

[@JettersGarage]

I've Heard lots of people say that electric vehicles are going to save the world. That being said, I do like electric vehicles. Hence the reason why I purchased the lightning. It is super fun to drive.

[@ocmotivator]

👍👍👍👍 let’s go! ⚡️

[@JettersGarage]

Thanks for the motivation OC!

[@LeighlaMarieTherapy]

Good ole San Diego power ⚡ #ford #lightning #power

[@JettersGarage]

Super expensive electrical and gas rates!

[@pstoneking3418]

My lightning replaces my 2014 F150 and 2018 prius. The ride I'd definitely better than either of those. More power than the f150, quicker than either, more efficient than either, more enjoyable all around to drive than either. I haul a lot of building supplies. Those that are too long or too big go on my 8x12 trailer that I tow with my lightning and doesn't even feel like it's back there. All that at $.08/kwh or around $5 to drive100 miles.

[@johnh.wilson2081]

Why do you like owning a vehicle that you have a hard time finding a way to refuel it? What does an electric vehicle do better than an ICE? Have you done your own study on climate change? Have you looked at how the rest of the world views climate change? How about the minerals that are being extracted to produce the batteries? How long will the solar panels and the Tesla batteries last until they have to replaced? From what I heard in your video it seems you didn't do enough research before making your purchase of the truck, which by the way, Ford has halted production on. I think I would be selling that truck an get a REAL pickup like a Tundra. Thanks for you honesty. You are right about one thing, you are NOT saving the planet.

[@SimonWallwork]

'Save the World' How, by buying a massive truck? What do you think it's made out of- fairydust?

[@JettersGarage]

Lol, you should watch the video.😎

[@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369]

HOWdy J-G, ... I'm 100% amazed at having SOLAR & NOT utilizing it to charge a VEHICLE ... but I run HYBRID Solar ... & ... do NOT sell ELECTRICITY back to the GRID ... & STORE all of my Excess ELECTRICITY in SIX (6) 48 Volt 5120 Watt/Hour BATTERIES ... Thanks COOP the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA ...

[@conejoshiker3165]

F150 Lightning is really a super expensive commuter vehicle

[@mrdion8439]

Nice review from your POV. I still see a valuable benefit of EVs despite the charging structure short comings. No oil changes, no spark plug & cable tune ups, no Coil failure with expensive replacements, no expensive Cadallac Converter replacement due to failure or theft, & not having to buy $80 plus worth of gas every week to fill up your truck or SUV. Lots of savings gained.

[@dsnowman2675]

Wait till crooks start stealing the cords and selling the copper because there is no current in the cord when it's not plugged in

[@JettersGarage]

Electric burglars, just like the McDonald's hamburglar. Lol

[@WilliamDeanPlumbing]

For the life of me I'll never understand why when it comes to spending tens of thousands of dollars on a vehicle why would someone do their homework on choosing their electric vehicle purchase, choose to buy an EV from a gas car company, instead of course buying an EV from a EV company with leaps and bounds more experience in the field. I suppose when we want what we want we just convince ourselves it's the right choice. 🤷

[@JettersGarage]

I'm going to assume you are talking about Tesla. They are the best EV company hands down and I owned an S for 7 years. I wanted a truck and the Cybertruck is a ways out from deliveries plus its look hasn't grown on me yet.

[@WilliamDeanPlumbing]

@@JettersGarage agreed I'm not a huge fan of the look personally but I did see it in a flat black wrap and it was shockingly gorgeous. I don't know why just that little bit made such a dramatic difference but it really did. That being said I still can't go down the wrong road $80,000 spent on what I know to be a poor choice in comparison. But again when we want what we want we just convince ourselves on why we should have it. But it definitely looks like they'll be delivering this year, but not if you're at the end of the line that's for sure LOL

[@usa-ev]

This video was so random. Some random guy going around to random places talking about random things.

[@usa-ev]

Speaking a random language no less.

[@JettersGarage]

Haha show me your 3 nearest public charging stations.. non-Tesla.

[@mr.foxwiz1653]

That is why I purchased a Tesla. The other charging networks are messed up and would be a pain to figure out where to go and MAYBE they would be available. No thanks. I can hit any Tesla superstation and IT JUST WORKS. Maybe in a few years, things will change.

[@Paul-cj1wb]

Great to hear a Tesla owner welcoming the opening of the supercharger network, although that'll only be in locations where they are not super busy. Most Tesla fans think they'll ALL be opened up. That's far from the case. The only reason Elon is doing it to get part of the infrastructure bill money. But anything helps, especially with all the advanced experience Tesla has. Eventually, this will be a major money maker for Tesla, especially when they start adding solar (by that I mean entire massive parking lots covered in them -- think Walmart supercenters parking lot size or larger) and multi-megawatts of battery storage capacity where they don't have to buy electricity but will be actually making it for free. That's 100% free profit.

[@JettersGarage]

Wow... That will be interesting. If there is one thing I know it's that Elon does things differently which is good.

[@Chainyanker007]

In California 30% of electricity is from renewable sources, mandated to be 100% by 2045 with intermediate goals.

[@indigetal]

About saving the world by driving an EV - well... the Ford Lightning’s battery weighs in at 1,800 pounds and bigger batteries require a lot of critical minerals, take a lot more electricity to power, and the electric grid still relies heavily on fossil fuels. The critics of electric vehicles are not wrong, but only because of the current market trends of EV's with bigger, and bigger vehicles with longer and longer range - not because it is an inherently bad technology. Mining is bad, but it's not any worse than drilling for oil. However, gigantic EV's with huge range hordes critical minerals that came with real environmental costs to gain access to and there is an intersection in that analysis where you aren't doing the environmentally right thing anymore when you drive such an EV. For instance, I have read that even a Model Y charged on a legacy power grid is only as clean as the most efficient ICE vehicle. Another article made a convincing argument that we could reduce far more carbon if everyone drove hybrids and plug-in hybrids instead because of 4 compounding reasons 1. Even though the majority of daily commutes are under 40 miles round trip, 2. most people hesitate to buy ev's because of range anxiety and the inconvenience of finding and waiting for a charger, but 3. you could make 10 plugin hybrids or 60+ regular hybrids with the same amount of minerals that it takes to make the battery pack of one Ford Lightning, so 4. there would be less overall fuel emissions if we as a society focused on shifting everyone to hybrids rather than huge, long-range EV's. I am not a critic of EV's, I own a Chevy Bolt, and I'm not even saying that nobody needs something like a Ford Lightning - it's just a very, very small segment of truly environmentally-conscious use cases (for instance, contractors or anyone who *really* needs the load and tow capacity but will only drive it locally and charge at home/site >90% of the time), although nobody really needs a Hummer EV - those are gross for the environment. I drive my Bolt around town and take my Ford Maverick Hybrid on longer trips. Yes, hybrids do not get as good mpg on the highway as they do in town but it's a small truck that fits my family, luggage, and can even tow a bass boat. I really wanted Ford to come out with a plug-in Maverick though...

[@2THXTRM]

really good content! offering up constructive feedback.. Very whiny tone to the narrative here, it's kind of annoying... understand the frustrations especially given the 100's of thousands you have out there in in EV's, chargers, solar and back ups. I'll own an EV someday, not yet though. Just put 700 miles on my '22 F150, only had to add range once, took 5-10 minutes to add 625 miles to empty.

[@JettersGarage]

Appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching. Hopefully you got some value from the video.

[@2THXTRM]

@@JettersGarage I did, solid content for sure

[@josephnier4463]

What about the third world countries without pollution controls that mime the materials for the batteries? How are used batteries recycled?

[@wwz1011]

If you use your truck to tow, the range sucks too. For a commuting vehicle, great. For towing a trailer, nope. More bad news on Natural Gas. Natural gas to electricity? 40% efficiency. Coal to electricity? 30% efficiency. So depending where you live, you could still be generating a lot of carbon based emissions.

[@douglasbarringer9871]

Realistically EV trucks are not usable right now for towing anything long distance. My opinion 10 to 20 years away. Gas stations are on every corner to fill up in less than five minutes. Battery technology is not ready for everyone to change over to EV yet.

[@JettersGarage]

Towing is a huge issue right now if you are going long distances. Charging stations are mostly set up for cars without extra space in the back for a trailer.

[@usa-ev]

EVs and EV ownership aren't perfect. It's still early days and there are bleeding edge growing pains to deal with. There are plenty of frustrating situations that should have been handled better and a severe lack of charging options here in the Midwest. Really no need to misrepresent that Level 2 charging is slow, that Ford can't navigate to DC fast chargers, or that you can't charge at a cherry-picked Level 2 charger in an apartment complex while towing?? That's not what those chargers are for so why complain that they can't do that. Sets a bad tone for the channel and lessens the veracity of your legitimate points. Much more useful if you point out how Ford shows stations sorted by charging speed, that at the 25 mph charging provided by Level 2 chargers your standard range pack could charge from 0-100% overnight, and that the apartment complex should provide more chargers for residents.

[@JettersGarage]

These are real life situations. The two Charging stations I chose were very close to the Tesla super charger station. It's a real problem and neither of the two public stations would have room for a trailer. I appreciate your comments and this is real stuff you deal with if driving and charging at public chargers. Don't shoot the messenger.

[@usa-ev]

@twosmooth64 You think someone that is towing navigating to a Level 2 station in an apartment complex is a real world situation? You do realize Ford sorts chargers by charging speed in the Nav app, right?

[@ralpheisenbath103]

GAS VEHICLES WILL BE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME GET USE TO IT. !!!!!

[@davidandrew6357]

@@JettersGarage Before Tesla introduced the Super Doc, Tesla superchargers were no use for drivers of cars with CCS like the F-150, so it was better to filter them out. From other video's I've seen, the Tesla Super Doc stations won't be as much use for F-150 drivers, because the power cable is just a little to short to work well. The apartment station looked like it was for residents and visitors rather than for road trippers passing through, filtering out level 2 chargers would solve that, so it was a poor example, but you are right that even many Level 3 fast charger locations are not well set up for Vehicles that are towing. I don't know of any app that filters for pull through locations yet. But apps like Plugshare, with user pictures and comments, or looking at the location on Google maps, can give you some heads up on a pre-planned route.

[@angelmatos9143]

This happens when most of your executives still favor the golf course. Remember, Elon doesn't play golf. 😂

[@craigcontofalsky4387]

How did that solar power go this past week out in CALIFORNIA???🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JettersGarage]

Actually it was still giving me juice but I needed a wave generator with all the water...lol

[@TonyLasagna]

Hey, I’d be happy to take it off your hands or trade you a brand new gas-job F-150 for it 😂 Just messing….all very valid points, the ford app sucks even for gas trucks, like the F-150 my wife drives, and even my older F-350 with the 6.7 diesel. Half the time it shows the vehicle stats or maintenance items, half the time it just says “F**k off” Also: Electrify America is absolute garbage. I don’t think it is whiney at all - the system sucks, and they could easily be doing more - I don’t think even opening up the supercharging network is going to fix the problem. Not unless they double or triple it in size now that everyone and their mother is making an electric vehicle. We are years away on real infrastructure changes.

[@JettersGarage]

It won't fix the problem but it will sure make it a lot better. How much will you buy my truck for? Jk. Give me a solid and subscribe to my channel if you like the content. Thanks for commenting.

[@TonyLasagna]

@@JettersGarage ha! i almost ordered one, but i bought her the eco boost instead. the charge stations just aren’t here yet in maine. i will likely order one for myself eventually though. you’re absolutely right - it’ll definitely help. i’m sure there are tons of them out your way. subbed a few days ago. what’s that you’re working on in the garage there?

[@didierpuzenat7280]

Nobody ever said you are going to save the planet buy driving a *HUGE* truck, just that it is better than driving a *HUGE* ICE truck. To help the planet, you should have continue to drive a Tesla, especially if it was a model 3. And if you really want to save the planet, try a bicycle, a am 53 years old and I bike to work even in winter, so you may survive !

[@loveofsisrael]

plan ahead

[@546cowboy6]

Their foolishness is about to bite them were it hurts.

[@larryfinley9221]

I’ve been driving my 2019 Chevy Bolt for 4 years now. Averaging 3.5 mi/KWh. At this point my fuel savings is over $10,000, from using my gas powered Toyota Corolla, which died at 225,000 miles, forcing me to buy the Bolt. No regrets at all. The fuel savings greatly subsidizes the cost of the car. No real issues when supercharging on a trip yet, but the supercharging infrastructure need to be substantially increased to handle the inevitable increase of EV owners. Before you buy an EV, make sure you have a garage with a NEMA 14-50 240 volt outlet. You really have to charge at home in order to realize the savings.

[@joshbrown284]

EVs will never take over unless charging infrastructure is standardized and there's charging stations just like gas stations. Summed up your 22 minute video. All these brands using all these different plugs and apps and all this is just too much for the average person. No one wants to have 10 different apps on their phone. They wanna pull in plug in not have to do much of anything and leave ready to go.

[@JettersGarage]

I would like to think I gave a little more info than that. haha Maybe you missed me on my roof or explaining the different chargers. Regardless, appreciate you watching. Do me a solid and subscribe, I have more great videos on the way.

[@joshbrown284]

@@JettersGarage I saw the panels and the different chargers but not everyone is interested in solar and not everyone owns a home that they can install a 220 for the fast charger. Standardization is what will be required for EVs to become mainstream and not just fullsize rc cars. Don't get me wrong I actually really love the idea of EVs and the technology and would love to have one some day but my mother calls me almost once a week about her Samsung Galaxy S10 and we expect people like that who aren't technology savvy to deal with all this? They're just not ready for primetime yet.

[@joshbrown284]

@@JettersGarage I watched your video about the ski trip. People aren't interested in being stressed and getting stranded (not saying you did) somewhere with their family on what's supposed to be a relaxing vacation just so they don't have to stop at a gas station. They'd rather stop at a gas station.

[@joshbrown284]

@@JettersGarage I'm not even saying it needs to be as fast as getting gas I'm just saying it needs to be as seamless

[@adrienre2657]

It would be an amazing day if Ford opened charging stations a la Tesla …. 😂

[@michaelweston5421]

Keep a gas generator in your bed. Charge when you want.

[@mamus4]

Solar panels look horrible on the roof.

[@JettersGarage]

I agree, that's why I only put them at the rear of my roof so others can't see them.

[@Doc1855]

To make a battery for an EV, it produces the same amounts of pollution as a gasoline powered vehicle during its first 90K miles of ownership. Furthermore there are NO safe places to discard worn out EV batteries.

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

Not to mention the rare earth minerals mined by African child slave labor in mines that are 90% owned by China.

[@stanpiers247]

Thank you for being honest instead of all these EV Clowns that act like they are out to save the world. These clowns know they are not giving you the whole truth yet they continue because of the money they get from youtube. Honesty is a rarity these days and some people will do anything for money. Again thank you for being one of the few people on youtube that is honest.

[@JettersGarage]

I think the electric is good but to say you're saving the world bis just funny to me. Thanks for commenting. Subscribe if you like the content.

[@adrienre2657]

Your California enviros don’t like nuclear either…which would be your cleanest non polluting option for electricity generation. If I could make a suggestion …move out of California, trade your truck for a tesla, and support your local nuclear power plant …and sell your Ford stock. Just saying… like Sandy Munro says the legacy OEMS have no clue about the absolute evolution that is facing the auto industry. What happens when the Chinese brands like BYD, Geely arrive and offer a complete customer satisfaction experience? Lord help the OEMS….

[@ElMistroFeroz]

Yeah ICE manufacturers are behind the curve when it comes to this technology, and it's their fault. Ford, Chrysler and GM in particular had a chance to lead the industry but were too lazy to put the effort.

[@Once_in_a_Lifetime]

I agree that you are a whiner. You appear to have bought your truck to travel, ie vacations and expect the remote charging stations to accommodate you to do that. Expecting charging stations to provide space for a large truck with a trailer, are you serious! I think the realistic expectation of a electric truck would be for working in your local area where home charging is the primary source for recharging. You come across as having a sense of entitlement. I noticed that while showing the various charging stations, you were not even parked in your parking lane. Yea, i know you wasn’t charging, just getting your video shot but it explains a lot of who you are. I also find it hard to believe that after owning a Tesla for 5-6 years you wouldn’t have anticipated a lot of these problem? But reporting about problems create good video subscriptions, right? But i don’t like material that is self inflicted!

[@gru2936]

Electric vehicles are for: 1: wealthy folks that can spend $100,000 on a vehicle, $100,000 on a solar system/power wall/fast charger/electrical panel upgrade. $500,000 on a house to put it all in.

[@JettersGarage]

I wish I was wealthy. The truck with my configuration runs about 88k with the recent price hikes. The solar system and power walls were about 30k after federal tax rebate and the house... Well depending on where you live you can spend a lot or a little. Hope this is helpful. Subscribe to my channel big you like the info. Thanks for commenting.

[@bowefamilyEV]

My Lightning was $67k but after the state and federal tax credits and my minivan trade in I was out the door at $37k. What's great about the Lightning is that there are trim levels which are not the $100k ones.

[@thisSiteSucksHard]

@@JettersGarage 88k + 30k are not wealthy? I guess some people don’t understand what most people live like. Most people buy a used car for under 5-10k very few years when their current junk dies. This is not realistic whatsoever for the vast majority of people, unfortunately. Politicians seem to not grasp the concept at all either and it’s ridiculous…gas prices should be under $2 like they were under the last presidency.

[@bob-qi4nr]

@@thisSiteSucksHard Damn straight....%100 correct

[@davidandrew6357]

Nope. I bought my Leaf for $8,000, it makes a fine commuter car. When our gas car died, we picked up a used Gen 2 Volt for about $17,000 which has become our road trip car, as well as a great electric daily driver. I don't have a house very well suited for solar, (to much shade) so I'm looking into Community Solar instead. There are a lot of expensive Electric vehicles, but there are also some fairly affordable ones.

[@miamiSincar]

expend thousand to save $100 not smart

[@aceyorba]

Until your lighting goes up in 🔥

[@appslg3phone]

Looks like it's going to take an actual Tech company to develop the App side. Like Tesla. After seeing many epic fails in the infotainment category by the domestic car manufacturers, I don't hold out high hopes. Google, Apple, or even a company like Amazon would be much better suited to this. It wouldn't surprise me if a Chinese company could do better right here in the USA. They've got the whole integrated app and surveillance society wired over there. To a scarey degree. They'll gladly do it here in exchange for ALL of your data and your first born. Which we need to put a stop to but that's a whole other topic.

[@Chainyanker007]

VW bought a Chinese software company for a billion or two to do there EV software.

[@helzevec]

Folks, among all environmental issues, climate change is unique and uniquely collective. Like, we're talking collective at a level unheard of in human history. Your entire state could eliminate all of its carbon and it would make no difference wrt climate change. This is not to say, don't care about climate change. But, this idea that your individual contributions, or lack thereof (i.e., your "carbon footprint"), is "doing your part" is just incoherent. Buy or don't buy an EV for the same reasons you'd buy or not buy anything. But don't buy it to "save the planet" or reduce your carbon footprint. If you're an upper middle class commuter to a major city and that's about the extent of your driving, EV's seem to make some sense. Outside of that, the sense in buying them starts to drop off a cliff. The lightning in particular seems to be quite the fail, and the sales are reflecting it.

[@ryan4freedom]

Sounds complicated. Move east and you don't have to worry about this.

[@ryan4freedom]

Btw my average county water bill is under 35 bucks on septic.

[@stevecoates5308]

150.000 Canada cost sweet potatoes 🥔

[@Ralph19541954]

Way too much money, way too much drama, way too ridiculous for any practical matter. It is no wonder that you live in San Diego. If it came down to dollars and cents, what did the solar panels cost (before tax subsidies), and what did the two Tesla Power Walls cost? A 9 kw roof panel solar system: Congratulations! At 100% output (which would be for approximately 3 1/2 hours a day in San Diego, UNLESS it is cloudy or rainy, you are producing enough electrical energy to run SIX hand held hair dryers! Not for the entire day, just for the 3 1/2 hours that your panels are actually putting out the rated full 9kw. So, let's hear how many dollars you spent today for the roof top solar, the powerwall storage (x2) and your wonderful Ford ProCharger, plus the electrician bill to wire this all together. Now we're really talking about the upfront cost vs. the "savings" over each future "fillup". No one wants to have this discussion, with this disclosure. And you're still screwing around with trying to time your charging with the midnight to 5am lower electrical cost. Spoiler: Why is the cost of electricity so high in Southern California/San Diego County???? RENEWABLE ENERGY MANDATES! Rube Goldberg would be proud!

[@aronmiller7648]

ELECTRIC CARS ARE NOT ACTUALLY ECO FRIENDLY OR GREEN JUST BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EMIT AT THE TAIL PIPE! The gas tax that is paid at the pump will be put at the charging stations you going solar will do nothing. The materials for the batteries are not renewable. Even recycling them does not work. The government will end up subsidizing it and once the government stops paying for the recycle process. That then means in simple terms it is not making money for the company meaning they then stop the recycle process. EV have bought the lies they have been fed that without buying this EV. They tell people the world is ending to cause the panic response. Then these crooks tell people they are saving the world by doing this action or buying this item and everyone wants to feel like a hero or special wake up!

[@JettersGarage]

Everything has its pros and cons. In the end making energy is not as clean as some people want to believe. Thank you for the comment.

[@dennisjones9044]

At this time EVs are only good for grocery getters and visits to the doctors, maybe a commuter. long drives, hauling and towing aint there yet

[@WiekingderViking]

Ahhhhh…. The delights of being a technological dilettante. I am sorry. It is a House of Cards!

[@JettersGarage]

Keeps me on my toes. Thanks for watching. Appreciate the comment.

[@jasonpocaro2730]

If it's not warm enough out, 80/90% of the energy goes to the heating of the cells. Most manufacturers don't care about it... You should 😁👍

[@JettersGarage]

You can precondition the batteries. But it does use a lot of electricity to warm them up. Thanks for subscribing and commenting.

[@jasonpocaro2730]

@@JettersGarage In Cleveland Ohio, it gets really hard to charge correctly. We get below freezing temperatures, for months at a time. People freaking out at how long it takes to get a decent amount of charge for their EV. Overhead roofing and/or shelter should be mandatory... 😉👌

[@JettersGarage]

@@jasonpocaro2730 Makes sense. Hope it gets better when it warms up.

[@jasonpocaro2730]

@@JettersGarage Hydrogen fuel cells. Battery set is: too dense for power to weight ratio. Battery is also weak point. First set of cells to fail, destroys entire pack & possible fire. Physical damage is always present & extremely dangerous. Almost impossible to put out with hand extinguisher, need lack of O2 tent to snuff flames. Almost every fire = 100% loss of vehicle and contents. Many lives lost in EV car accidents... Unfortunately 😥 Be safe & well. J & EPP

[@usa-ev]

80-90%? You must mean while charging and that's only if car is plugged in cold and only until temp is raised. While driving the Ford breaks down usage for you into propulsion, interior climate, and "exterior temperature" (battery warming). The latter usually sits under 10%, but the interior climate will get you.

[@skysmith6364]

Evs suck...period

[@JettersGarage]

It's a lot of fun to drive an electric go cart.