Things You Cannot Do In Windows 11

[@justdewitt5409]

As an animator, I love to have the taskbar to the side of my screen to give me more vertical drawing space. Because of this I reverted back to windows 10 very quickly after 'upgrading'. Seems odd to remove so many features, it's how you alienate your users

[@ace88205]

That is a dumb reason because you can move the taskbar items to the side in windows 11 too.

[@justdewitt5409]

No you can't

[@despawnedd]

@@ace88205 You can move the *items* to the left, not the entire taskbar

[@cypher3905]

This has been done by Microsoft since winXP. The only way to get over it... Is to switch to linux.

[@bytekast]

@@cypher3905 no, there are other ways.

[@existentialselkath1264]

Windows 11 seems to have the same problems I had with android 12. It adds multiple steps to simple actions, and takes away a lot of visual and functional customisation for the sake of making everything look sleek.

[@thehussiteking]

Yeah I hate how the brightness slider isn't always visible when you pull down the top bar.

[@3mar00ss6]

I hate the new app picker I had to resort to a third party solution, I hate the fact the wifi direct can't be accessed anymore thank god Samsung's quick share can still share whole folders

[@unicodefox]

The difference that Windows 11 doesn't look like dogshite

[@3mar00ss6]

@@unicodefox nope still looks worse than 7

[@AdroSlice]

@@3mar00ss6 Looks are very subjective. Personally, I prefer the "simple", more minimal square-edge with no outer margins approach of Windows 10 over both 7 and 11, also knowing that with competent programmers, said approach is certainly also the simplest to implement efficiently.

[@vksamhith]

The new windows follows apple’s design mindset very closely. The “we know better than you” attitude is everywhere in win11.

[@benwhite8157]

I agree. I suffer using an iPhone only because I have a PC to do everything it refuses to. If I upgrade to Win11, I now have two devices telling me I'm using them wrong.

[@oldlavygenes]

For me, Apple has pretty much nailed the UI experience which is why I'm able to forgive their very "holier than thou" philosophy in terms of the OS. Windows 11 on the other hand only copies Mac OS on the surface level but fails to capture the ease of use and productivity shortcuts available in Mac OS.

[@androth1502]

@@simonslair3048 gnome want's to have a chat with you.

[@shanepereraedu]

@@simonslair3048 i used linux (lmde5) and it was pretty trash. You don't have enough software compatibility and lot of the stuff you simply do on windows are going to missing out but you gonna have an ego boost knowing that you are using linux and thats it. You gonna get nowhere with linux. 🤮

[@hornattila]

windows is almost fully "we know better than you" and thats why i wish i could switch back to linux but i cant thanks to a certain green gpu company not making their drivers open source

[@TheTattorack]

I would argue that removing the ability to drag and drop is not a simplification, it's a complication. Dragging and dropping is literally the most streamlined and simple action one can do, but somehow the designers decided making things fidgety and hiding everything in menus was the right call.

[@_Syhmac]

Except that drag and drop works fine on taskbar in W11? And it has been working fine for a long time now. Even 2 months ago, when you were commenting it.

[@LRM12o8]

Exactly my thought when he theorized that right-clicking may be faster and that's why. Who cares if it's (if it even is), drag&drop is obviously much more intuitive!

[@DeadSpatula]

@@_Syhmac So was the creator of this video directly lying to me? Manipulating video to lie to me? Drag and drop functionality was the first item in the video.

[@_Syhmac]

@@DeadSpatulaBRO. THIS VIDEO CAME OUT 6 MONTHS AGO. There was A LOT of updates, and it has been patched now! This video is not up to date and none of the things mentioned in it should be taken as the truth.

[@andreas3904]

​@@_Syhmac It doesn't work for me.

[@YoSomePerson]

There is a german Term called "Verschlimmbesserung". It consists of "verschlimmern" [verb, to make something worse than before] and "Verbesserung" [noun, the improvement of something] or "verbessern" [verb, to improve something]. The Term refers to things that in an effort to improve something actually made it worse than before. Usually because the entity implementing the change has little to no knowledge about the usecase of the thing they try to improve. Windows 11 is basically one whole "Verschlimmbesserung".

[@Imperator23Lp]

Da kann ich definitiv nur zustimmen!

[@SkyKrye]

german moment

[@thycaltrist]

It always amazes me how german has a word for everything. I have to learn it someday

[@YoSomePerson]

@@thycaltrist I would recommend against it for the sake of your sanity.

[@Doxxtrain]

like the saying that goes "The enemy of the good is the better" right?

[@rationalraven8956]

One you didn’t mention is that it’s impossible to view the time showing seconds. You only get hours and minutes. Even if you open the clock settings there are no seconds anywhere. I wouldn’t have thought this would be an issue until I couldn’t have it, but surprisingly often I want to know exactly how many seconds are left before a certain time. It seems like they are trying to give the Windows interface the simplicity of a tablet, but I think this is precisely the opposite of the right approach, because the very basic users are only using phones and tablets in the first place, it’s mainly power users and business users who are still using laptops and desktops, and they want more options, not less.

[@Welshmanshots]

You can change that in the reg edit or get software for it, i used to use it but turned it off but now i use system time with in a mod i use in Minecraft.

[@ThatNerdGuy0]

I know, it’s so annoying Just let me see the seconds

[@comet.x]

tablet? ah that's why. they're doing the same thing as windows 8

[@Meshamu]

That's pretty odd that is missing especially on a desktop. I like to have seconds shown even on my tablet and phone.

[@johannesbruwer4072]

I added an analog clock with a second hand on my desktop from windows widgets. pretty easy to do.

[@Rerbun]

I'm very sad that Windows 11 has become so annoying to use for power users, I've been helping my family with their windows 11 laptop and it has been quite a frustrating experience for ME because I will have to get used to a whole lot of simplifications. I'd love to see the registry video

[@adtc]

I would get frustrated with macOS as a power user, and appreciated Windows for how versatile it is. I guess not, with Windows 11.

[@lamborghinigamer]

I was a windows power user, but then I became a linux🐧 power user and my experience with computer became much better. I never ran into issues

[@chrisdib9269]

Honestly I've been a Windows power user for years. I do definitely wish 11 was more polished and refined, but I really like the UI boost. Windows 11 gives me the UI I've always wanted, and I'm in the Insider Beta channel for the experimental features. I have drag and drop for my taskbar, and the UI is super continuous. New task manager is also really nice. It's not power user yet, but by being an Insider, my feedback along with many others' is being taken into account and it makes Windows a better OS.

[@superJK92]

I feel like windows 11 is worse then windows ME sometimes

[@kendricklamargaming8174]

@@adtc be a linux power user

[@marscaleb]

5:43 This right here is the biggest reason why I reverted back to Windows 10. Removing this option has absurdly killed my productivity. I HAVE to move back and forth between various programs. I could be editing a video and need to edit a graphic; those require two different programs. I could have to jump from a vector-editing program to a raster-based image editing program to a word processer. And in all cases, no matter what I'm doing, I very frequently have to jump to a web browser; I may need to do an image search to find a reference, check how to do something, or even just jump to an email because I have an important message. I always have multiple browser windows open to various pages I am actively using for my projects. But in Windows 11 THIS SIMPLE TASK TAKES LONGER. Especially when I try to work while I'm travelling so I'm only working on one screen on my Surface. I can no longer just click on the window I need to see; I have to click an icon, move up to a the new window, and then click the window I am looking for. Worse yet, even if that program has only one window, I STILL have to go through that same process instead of just clicking once. And then to add insult to injury, there's all this wasted space on my screen, a long taskbar filling up the bottom of my screen, but with nothing using that space. It's just empty space that COULD be used to show me my windows, but doesn't. That one extra click adds up. That extra looking for the right window adds up. And that frustration adds up. Windows 11 was literally wasting my time.

[@donotatme]

At least they FINALLY allowed you to un-combine programs on the task bar again! It's hidden under advanced task bar settings, seems to be a new addition

[@Palkia8-Bit]

You should’ve done 7 instead of 10

[@enhapik]

alt + tab doesn't work?

[@muopmuopmuopmuop]

Me too, so fsurtration

[@justtappingFG]

It came back

[@bongkangzheng3220]

As a software developer, Win11 gives me a feeling of a rushed product. That’s why the restrictions on the taskbar to prevent users from messing around and customising. But well.. I could be wrong and they might just prefer beautiful design over functionality

[@snowshoe3274]

I agree. The restrictions on the taskbar seem like a workaround to a bigger issue to me too. Like dragging and dropping was a major headache they couldn't fix in time so they just blocked it completely.

[@adtdn30]

This fall, Microsoft is planning to announce Windows 11 version 22H2 "ni_release", this update includes some missing features in the main release of Windows 11 since October 2021, and new features that you may don't know. The drag & drop feature is back. Start menu layout with apps in folder, optimized for touchable screens, updated Task manager, updated Print , tabs in file explorer, better windows snap layout, more focus in focus assist, more accessibility feature like live text captions, voice access, improving the animation and more... The build number of Windows 11 version 22H2 is 22621 and 22622. Now you can try soon this Windows 11 via Windows Insider Program in Beta and Release Preview channel. Hope that you'll change the mind about the next impressive feature update of Windows 11.

[@Someone-wo4zj]

May I know what software you have created?

[@static_bantic360]

@@Someone-wo4zj it could be internal applications they cant tell you about

[@danielgomez7236]

Probably they disabled lots of things to prevent any unexpected behavior

[@benwhite8157]

I think you nailed it. Windows 11 as a whole was change for the sake of change. I love Windows 10, warts and all. It has been limitless in the ways I've wanted to use it. I'm disappointed MS has decided to back away from Windows as a service.

[@RexGalilae]

It's even stranger when you remember that they promised Win10 would be the last version of Windows I guess it was more about making a splash in the news than anything else

[@yeahthatkornel]

@@RexGalilae exactly

[@st0ny242]

@Laura Matsuda Same! With Windows 10 I don't feel like I am in control anymore. Windows 7 let me see my folders, settings etc. in a clear list with nothing else. Now they have tiles, recommendations, a quick access category which I never use and apps that don't work properly. I didn't want the last update and I'm tired of Windows forcing unneccesary change on me.

[@JeffRyman69]

@@RexGalilae Microsoft never promised that. The "last version of Windows" thing was based on an unauthorized comment from a single Microsoft employee.

[@Zenas521]

🤨

[@ellen6904]

As a professional UX design consultant I've noticed UX is just more of a diversity of team checkbox over an actual impactful role within product development, and actually designing for the user has been met with a lot of resistance become more of a could have over a must have with this new scrum product mindset. Yes, it means the products MVP get finished and in customers hands quicker, but all it means is the longevity of a product and the trust of the customers is heavy damaged, all for the sake of ticking a checkbox and in a consultancies case getting paid.

[@MrTrilbe]

sooooo you're saying you're partly responsible then 😁, all joking aside, take a look at the UI in Win 11, look at a smartphones UI and then you'll know who the UI was designed for, it's the people who were brought up with smartphones and are now anywhere from school starting age to just finishing Uni degrees, to mimic the one peice of tech that most of the western world uses multiple times a day, honestly i'm surprised it took MS this long to do it.

[@ellen6904]

@@MrTrilbe I'm most certainly the problem 😆. I believe the UI is almost irrelevant to the problems with windows 11, because windows 11 over complicates basic user journeys and removes/hides features useful to both power users and new users. Windows 11 was promised to remove the legacy control panel settings. however, all they did was make it really hard to get to to discourage usage and still keep it the only place to sort out key settings. We also see dark UX becoming even more prominent within windows with the forcing of users to use edge for everything. overall, It's just lazy and its not the designers or developers fault, its external pressures from board members and contracts are not managed in defence of the user, its in management of a quick buck, therefore, making an objectively worse to use product.

[@MrTrilbe]

@@ellen6904 every problem you just named is because of the UIs UX, damn the sector needs to drop acronyms so badly, bloody management and wanting to sound relevent, anyway from the few days I've used win 11, I've had little problem with it, but I went into it knowing it's going to be different to win 10 and I also use keyboard shortcuts, so something's are easier since the shortcuts date bake to XP for the most part

[@magnuskallas]

As a graphic designer and front-end developer, the red stop sign at dragging-dropping files to open programs on Taskbar is an insult. It is piss-poor UI/UX. No, they haven't fixed it as of the late September update.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

UX people will continue to be ignored until they differentiate themselves from designers. In the minds of engineers, you are in the same category as the people who ask for autoplay videos and visuals that animate rather than scroll when scrolling a web page. edit: not sure how I misspelled autoplay so it autocorrected to autopsy, but that's kind funny.

[@TheValarClan]

Totally agree with what you said. And I noticed that windows 11 does not allow classic shell to work for those of you who want to use an older interface. Personally I think the OS should separate out the interface as an optional choice. The operating system can run in the background, and then you choose how you want the interface to work for those of us who are advanced enough

[@PrenonNon0]

i think Open Shell still works tho, but thats a third party

[@Finkelfunk]

I switched to Linux and KDE about a year ago when they launched Win 11. After watching this video and seeing how even the most obvious and self explanatory features have been booted I just can't stop feeling bad for people still using this. Like, not even being able to move the taskbar around? Not being able to customize icon size? No drag and drop of items into programs or folders? This is just... sad. Like this isn't even terrible or awful anymore, we have officially gotten to the point where a group of people developing Desktop Environments in their spare time are more competent at their job of UX design than a multi billion dollar company chucked full of software engineers. This is so awful it's just sad at this point.

[@RageGamer15]

What do you do if you want to play games then?

[@Finkelfunk]

@@RageGamer15 I use Proton. Literally I have yet to find a game I can't play on Linux

[@RageGamer15]

@@Finkelfunk can you play warzone? Also does every game work like they're supposed to? Or there is a bit of a compromise there, whether it's graphics or lag?

[@Finkelfunk]

@@RageGamer15 Don't play Warzone so I dunno. If it is on Steam there is a 99.7% chance it works though. As far as compromises go not really. In fact since Linux natively doesn't need 5GB of RAM at idle and gives you random CPU usage spikes most games actually run better than they used to on Windows. Like I've found that a number of games run significantly smoother on Linux or give me higher FPS because it just needs so few ressources to properly run, obviously depending on the distro. The only exception I've had thus far was Cyberpunk which ran a little worse (1440p High on Windows vs. 1440p Medium on Linux) but that is due to NVIDIA being dicks about their firmware updates when it comes to Linux. If I had an AMD GPU I'm sure this would have looked differently. Usually if you compromise it's in terms of online play because a few anti cheats might act out, but since Steam is pushing Linux hard the issues Linux gaming had 2 or 3 years ago are virtually non existant now.

[@RageGamer15]

@@Finkelfunk good to hear. But if i search Linux gaming on KZbin, most content creators show that Linux actually doesn't give a better performance and some games won't even work

[@AnoopVargheese]

Most of these changes seem to be more geared to streamlining the developer experience rather than the user experience. Each of the redundancies and features they got rid of were possible sources of bugs or a whole tree of complexity that had to be learnt before a developer could add or edit code in that section, since any change had to be compatible with all of the redundancies and features simultaneously. In short, Microsoft prioritized the quality of life of its own developers over its users.

[@tombrandis]

Hopefully in 12, they'll add them all back but done better without the bugs. Then I'll upgrade.

[@Christobanistan]

" streamlining the developer experience" By rewriting the whole thing? No. That's a huge amount more effort.

[@AnoopVargheese]

@@Christobanistan yes, that's what a full refactor is. A shitload of effort.

[@Christobanistan]

@@AnoopVargheese Rewrite, not refactor.

[@ventilate4267]

It streamlines the UX too, for all the reasons you just explained.

[@kurtcpi5670]

I agree with every one of these. There's one more, and that is the right-click context menu. They added some icons, but hid the textual items. OK, it's still there, but you have to first click "more..." . This seems to be a continuing trend. Some entity at Microsoft seems to think we need items categorized with more and more granularity. For some reason they've decided that it's more productive to have to guess which category a particular setting or option belongs in than to read through an alphabetized list. It continually seems to require more clicks and menus to get the place you previously could with one click.

[@nikkoa.3639]

It's incredibly frustrating for me to see Microsoft implement so many egregious changes to Windows for the sake of making it look "better" when in reality it only seeks to harm the user experience. I know it's overstated in video topics like these, but the annoying changes Microsoft implemented in windows is exactly why I decided to switch to Linux (Fedora). But the truth is I didn't want to change. I wanted I to stay with Windows. I knew that Linux was getting better but still half-baked and yet all the niggling changes implemented in Windows 11 made me want to get away from that ship as fast as possible since it's become a sinking ship in my eyes. If Microsoft manages to fix their shit I'd be happy, but I know they wont.

[@MrTrilbe]

you are not the new customer, there's a reason it's free for prior Win users, you won't be buying a new PC, the User the UX is aimed for is the Digital Generation and later, the ones who grew up with a mobile phone and about now will be looking at PC's and Laptops for school, college and Uni, there's a reason it looks phone-ish it's because phone-ish is the new standard of UX most people will know.

[@palmberry5576]

@@MrTrilbe yeah, it’s for the people so dumb they can’t install fucking Java without being guided the whole way over screen share

[@MattExzy]

This just makes me yearn for Windows 7 all the more - if I dug out Windows 7 and found a machine to put it on, I know for a fact I'd punch my current computer in the face out of the total comprehension of how f***ed they have truly made things.

[@MrTrilbe]

@@MattExzy I remember people saying the same from the move from win98se to win XP, including that it now has a silly name, funny that since XP is considered the best OS windows ever made. The same happened from XP to Vista, Vista to 7 to 8 and 8.1, to 10, and now to 11. 11 so far to me at least, isn't as bad as people make it out to be, are there things I don't like, yeah, are things different, yeah, but sometimes different is better, given time to figure out it's good points, ATM for me it's the centre start menu, it's right there in the centre and immediately the centre of focus

[@JustinDaniels]

@@MattExzy I'm literally thinking of creating a time-appropriate Windows 7 PC build at some point because I hate Windows 11 and even Windows 10 for that matter...

[@maxresdefault_]

A video on "Windows 11 tricks" about tweaking things with the system registry would be much appreciated

[@PhilipMarcYT]

So.. just make things simple again like they were. Just go back to 10. 11 is a dumpster fire.

[@JC.CopyCrea]

At least import them from Win10

[@Ralphunreal]

@@PhilipMarcYT to be fair windows 10 is also a dumpster fire.

[@runninginthe90s75]

The amount of ignorant people including this stupid misleading youtuber who called himself as "tech" channel while having less informed about tech is beyond me. Who said you can't move apps or files to taskbar with drag and drops? This features has been exist at least for 2 months in beta channel, it just Microsoft haven't release it on public yet because they want to make it stable. I feel like this retarded video is made by people who living in the past, those people who keep using Windows 7, i never understand what so great about never combine taskbar, it's not even a good thing because this feature take a lot of unnecessary space in taskbar, even in Windows 7 i never use this feature. If Microsoft hear this stupid non sense youtuber, they will repeat the same mistake on Windows 8 and Windows 10 which makes UI very inconsistent. People who said Windows 11 is just "Windows Vista 2.0" is obvious troll or either just stupid ignorant because worldwide OS marketshare charts already showed how fast Windows 11 userbase growth. This video is nothing but stupid rant by @CHMTech because he is crying so much to see Windows 11 didn't do what he want which is a good thing.

[@bondjovi4595]

@@Ralphunreal Good thing Win 8 is still usable.

[@HuntersOA]

What I hate the most are the changes made to right click options. At work, we use SVN version manager. Now that the menu is one layer deeper, I have to click and navigate an extra 1-2 sec every time I use any tools integrated in the windows UI. You might say, that it is not much - but it ads up. And it is extremely frustrating. We also use path copy to manage path access better for network shared drives, some integrated comparisom tools, etc. If I use these 2-300 times a day it just ads up. The workflow is just annoying on W11...

[@vadnegru]

There are registry tweaks

[@Trabantus601]

There are ways around that, search on youtube.

[@HuntersOA]

@@Trabantus601 not for a company laptop, unfortunately. Not even virtual memory is allowed to be changed. It is extremely restricted at work.

[@Trabantus601]

@@HuntersOA Thats bad. Hopefully they'll add an option to change to the old context menu

[@HuntersOA]

@@Trabantus601 I hope so too.

[@Floris_VI]

I would like to mention that the 2 most annoying things in day to day use for me are the lack of a quick audio mixer and when you right click an item in file explorer it has a bunch of simplified options, completely ruining my workflow in file manager, it seriously takes me like 15% longer to do any task due to this

[@hudsonator7259]

I think the simplified options in the file explorer was the first big difference I've noticed. It's really annoying

[@anakhaz]

It feels like the majority of these changes are all in the vein of MS moving more towards a more touchscreen centric user experience like IOS than the traditional keyboard mouse, but it feels like its half of both and never fully either, which results in this disappointing feeling of it being a downgrade rather than an improvement.

[@flying_Night_slasher]

They tried to do that with Windows 8 and look how that turned out

[@davidwilliss5555]

I have a Windows 10 Laptop that has a touch screen, and it annoys me that it keeps reverting to "Tablet mode". I don't mind there being a tablet mode option, but if I don't actively select it (which I never would), it should never go into tablet mode..

[@commentbot9510]

Why? They make computers not tablets… PCs need to stay.

[@Crow_Rising]

I get the feeling that over the last decade or two, they've (Microsoft) progressively been shifting from one mindset to another, and that's in regards to who their customers are. It used to be that the customer and the user were one in the same, and so they designed the operating system with the user's needs in mind. More recently, it seems like they're shifting towards other groups of interest such as advertisers and hardware manufacturers being their customers, and users of their operating systems (or more accurately, their attention) are the product they are actually selling. This is likely why they are transitioning to a free to obtain method of distributing Windows.

[@TheNerdsFromHell]

Seeing as the OS is more less free this is correct

[@CaptainVaughn0]

mega man zero

[@Crow_Rising]

@@CaptainVaughn0 Ah, a kindred spirit passing by I see. May good fortune follow wherever you are headed.

[@BacenticFlam]

that's business

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

classic tactic, sneak in small changes over time and the user wont be mad. The user wont notice how much you have changed after a few 100 small changes.. if you want to see how much they changed go back and try windows 7... Sure, not that good at compability anymore but its waay different how you used the system and what you were allowed to do when using it..

[@asteroidrules]

Software development used to focus on maximizing features. Including features that were niche or wouldn't be used by a significant amount of users was perfectly acceptable because it meant you could advertise to power users. Windows 11 is taking the opposite approach, removing every feature that they think is "unnecessary" and of course in this case "unnecessary" is defined as something that the suits personally don't use.

[@outby50]

“Simplification” was not about the UX, it was about the size and complexity of the codebase. All of the “you can do it this way, that way, or the other way” and “customize it this way, that way, or the other way” stuff comes at great cost in bloat in the codebase. That comes with great cost in maintenance and support-not to mention reduced reliability and increased defects. If “the suits” don’t like it, this is why. And then there’s Edge. Talk about a whole bunch of added code for features and functions nobody ever needed or asked for…

[@smokecrash2147]

@outby50 if it was about avoiding bloat we could delete edge without problems.

[@BenRangel]

​@@outby50sounds like a reasonable guess. win10 had huge amounts of legacy spread out over control panels, taskbar options etc. During a codebase cleanup it can be challenging enough to get one rewritten feature to work perfectly, so opting for not spreading yourself to thin over multiple features is often reasonable.

[@palodoxaliqua5809]

What's also missing is that you could click on this tiny unreadable clock in the lower right to get a popup that showed a actually readable clock. Also after starting the computer you could just type in the password and hit enter, whereas now you first have to click one time extra for no reason so that the password box appeares and only then you can unlock the pc. Oh, and then there's the dumbed down right click for files and folders. You have to click "show more options" every time to finally see the options you want (very annoying). Also now everyone is forced to register with a microsoft account which is not acceptable if you want to run your PC anonymously or need it for a task for which you want it to not be connected to the internet.

[@SuperPickle15]

A little trick about the forced Microsoft account... when installing windows, use a bogus email address. If it can't validate the email, it literally gives up and makes you create a local account lol

[@abrahamkuruvila8799]

After seeing this video (I never bothered to upgrade to win11) I feel that Win11 prioritized the avarage customer(who would prefer the sleek design) and threw power user's under the bus. I wish we had the option to enable these features if we wanted at the very least.

[@_Digitalguy]

you need 3rd party software for that

[@DavidStruveDesigns]

It's not even just power users. If you do _anything_ slightly more than just opening and closing apps and software, they've thrown you under the bus. I would never consider myself anywhere _close_ to being a "power user", however I _do_ on occasion need to access task manager, and like to drag and drop items into folders - and both of those things have been made much more difficult and worse with Windows 11. Plus, I _hate_ with a passion how all of the customization options have been steadily stripped out of the Windows operating system. Part of the appeal years ago was making it _MY_ computer - altering the appearance until I was happy with it (like moving taskbar to the top, similar to Linux distros and Mac, or installing 3rd party software like Stardock to _really_ change the look). Now I'm forced to use something that looks exactly the same as everyone else's ... _BOOORING!!_

[@infiniteplanes5775]

Yeah, but not everyone will be a power user. Windows has always been sort of a middle ground between Apple’s average joe audience and Linux’s tech industry audience, you know?

[@Jamiered18]

When you right click taskbar items, you often get a "jump list" to quickly launch into some actions. I actually use this for a few programs. However, in Windows 10, you could do this for items in the Start Menu too; but in Windows 11, no such option. Now you *must* pin everything you want to use that jump list on to the taskbar. Needless clutter

[@jasonstephen7564]

Well you just thought me something I never knew and I thank you for that! 😍

[@farmervillager1376]

microsoft finna release windows 12 next year then windows 13 the year after

[@StarfoxHUN]

For me personally the most annoying thing about windows 11 is related to Touchscreen. Back in win10 i could swipe in from the right side of the screen and it opened a control panel where i could adjust a lots of settings, like volume, brightness and such. It was great, because i could use this whiteout forcing in the taskbar which is something Fullscreen (non-windowed) apps have a harder time with, not to mention it putting the opened star menu in the middle of the screen and then i have to do another step to acces that control panel. And now, this same gesture opens up the calendar. Its just so sad. Also right left side swipe-in opens a stupid news panel, like i even need a quick-access for that in my pc, not to mention it only opens links through Edge AND MSN.

[@yolson2376]

As a windows tablet user I have to agree with you. The side gestures are pretty much useless now in Windows11.

[@ducksongfans]

i disabled my touch screen cause it goes crazy when i try to clean the screen (very often)

[@OctagonalSquare]

6:02 the closest thing you can get to custom grouping is that if you have multiple screens, you can change it to group them on the taskbar only on the screen where they are open. It’s situational, but is at least a little bit helpful for organizing

[@skinwalker69420]

The middle alignment taskbar with the taskbar on the left side of the screen would absolutely be killer for productivity. Too bad Microshaft can't see the vision that us actual users want. I guess I'll be sticking to Windows 10 LTSC personally. Edit: ExplorerPatcher can fix this

[@jovetj]

Microsoft doesn't CARE what you users want.

[@traveller23e]

If you can you might consider trying the default Linux Mint (with cinnamon DE). It allows all kinds of taskbar customization and is designed to be as beginner-friendly as possible for people coming over from Windows.

[@skinwalker69420]

@@traveller23e I'm a Debian user.

[@turolretar]

I use arch btw

[@johnd5398]

That we actual users want*

[@JoeEnderman]

Little things like this are why I boot into Limux 90% of the time. I only use Windows for apps that don't run in Linux for one reason or another. Like when I want to right click a file, they changed the menu for the worse in my opinion. Sure, they got rid of redundancy, but they also made stuff like copy-and-paste or viewing properties harder.

[@jscottupton]

So true. There ARE programs that won't run in Linux. But no law against having two or more computers.

[@matthigamer1]

@@jscottupton Or dual boot for that matter

[@jesse7631]

Same here - I will go into Windows when I absolutely must, but man, Linux (and I use GNOME) is so much more usable and productive, and I use it for my work, while also having to remote into a Windows workstation.

[@CaptainSouthbird]

The context menu is one I really disliked because I frequently access other applications when operating on files, e.g. "Open With" or 7-zip's archive creation. The ""good"" news is that the Explorer context menu can be reverted via registry hack. Granted I fully agree this should just be a user preference option somewhere... keep the "new" context menu if you actually like it, or go back to the previous one. Since apparently it really is just a simple toggle, they just didn't expose the option to the user.

[@JoeEnderman]

@@CaptainSouthbird That might give the user some control over thoer own computer. Heaven forbid Microsoft loosen thier grip over my PC.

[@Trashloot]

Back in the day i upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 because it added some interesting features i wanted to try out. This time it seems like im only loosing stuff. Even the new intel cpus and their support in windows 11 result in less backwards compatibility. I wish there was a reason to be excited about win 11.

[@some_name9306]

Yeah, I agree. I have a new laptop that runs windows 11 and fail to be excited about anything this new OS has to offer. In fact, it's kind of annoying that you can't open the task manager by right - clicking the Taskbar. It also looks a lot like MacOS now, but if I wanted to have a MacOS experience, I would just get a Mac

[@robertbeisert3315]

NGL, I only updated because they didn't support my new CPU. Still don't think there's anythinf in 10 I wanted or needed.

[@futuza]

There's like two reasons for me to upgrade to windows 11, and they're not good reasons: dark mode for notepad longer support/updates than 10, which is nearing end of life

[@robertbeisert3315]

@@futuza just saying, vi has always been in dark mode

[@futuza]

@@robertbeisert3315 That's why my main OS is Mint.

[@steveoneil7028]

I've always had a policy of only moving to a new version when I move to a new machine since I've always found that new versions don't run so well on older hardware. I'm in no hurry with Windows 11 though. Typically you expect a newer version to be an upgrade, not a downgrade. It doesn't matter how many times I get bugged with the reminders to update when I start my PC. It's not gonna happen for as long as I can avoid it. With luck they'll follow their trend of every second version being a better one so I can hold out for a decent Windows 12.

[@sylvercritter]

Windows 11 feels like it'd be far too restricting for me. While I don't use tiles very often in Windows 10, it's still something good to have, especially on my old gaming tower. With that said, I really want to make sure I'm secure so I'll have to leave behind Windows 10 some day, so Linux is becoming more and more appealing to me, and with Proton being a thing, it makes the decision a whole lot easier.

[@snowshoe3274]

I've been a gaming user for 10+ years now, started with XP. I honestly don't have anything to complain about with Win 11. In fact, I feel like the UX is much more consistent than with Windows 10, which seemed like a huge mess of old and new UI.

[@8lec_R]

@@snowshoe3274 tbh for me, it's still a lot of mix of old and new

[@8lec_R]

@@anonymousalexander6005 Umm thx for your deep answer, but I was saying like the device manager works differently from the settings app, which is different from the control panel. BTW I have got TIW11 and alot of the other things you are talking about

[@8lec_R]

@@anonymousalexander6005 Also, why would I need docker, it's like a VM. What do you use it for. I have downloaded it and seem to have no use for it yet

[@aurniox]

unless you play games with kernel level anticheats(like valorant or genshin) you should be able to run most games on linux almost the same, if not with better performance on linux(nvidia might be a problem with linux, so you might wanna consider being on windows for now unless you have an amd gpu) and it can be very customizable or you can just go with a minimal desktop experience it does have a bigger learning curve to get used to it than switching to windows 11 but its been really good for me ever since i switched

[@esbam2002]

I came to W10 kicking and screaming from W7 that I loved. I'm in no mood to have a lesser version forced on me in a year or so. Even more is the information I saw about potentially ads getting put in it. I'm also one of those weirdos that has my taskbar on the left side. It's from my days as a phone support rep for Charter Communications and it being the fastest way to pull screens when assisting callers.

[@TGTK-77]

Same. I only switched to 10 when I was forced to. Win 7 was great, but at least 10 didn't see a severe reduction in features. The Taskbar on the left should be the default position IMO. It's by far the most efficient for everything I do. Taking that away for no reason at all is enraging.

[@guysome7469]

@@PSvGi Linux is the most user hostile option out of all of them. I use it for work and I'd rather die than use it at home too.

[@nonagonguy6121]

@@guysome7469There’s a lot of user friendly Linux distros tho

[@greyw0lv]

I use dual Screen task bars on left and right perimeter of my screens, with tile grouping being the only thing visible on my start menu. I assume these changes can be modded into 11 using 3rd party software, but it is annoying knowing it's gone in 11.

[@ajserok7687]

@guysome7469 User hostile as in you know exactly what's on your system? Arch Linux forever.

[@luigimaster111]

You gotta have an intuitive mode and a productive mode, and something to ease users from intuitive mode into the productive mode. Blender for example only become popular in the eye of the mainstream after the 2.8 update I'd argue entirely because of the UX updates, Blender before 2.8 was entirely focused on creation in the most efficient way possible in the eyes of the developers, after the 2.8 update, they added UX that allowed the program's most basic functionality to almost entirely be navigated by the use and on-screen ques which finally added an intuitive mode to the software thus making the software more usable to the general public. Blender however has one advantage that Windows needs to take advantage of, and that customizability. I have no idea why, has the marketing division convinced Microsoft that customizability will strip them of identity? It was called a Desktop for a reason, not everyone's desk has the same nicknacks and tools, heck some people need to whip out a drill to maximize their desk's functionality.

[@Razumen]

It's a false dichotomy. Productivity mode should be intuitive mode, there is no difference. Good, intuitive UI Increases productivity, while one that requires you to waste time just to learn their obscure control method isn't something any professional would argue is better.

[@reaganharder1480]

@@Razumen I think in the Blender example the "productive mode" he's referring to is keyboard shortcuts?... Like, Blender has a keyboard shortcut for like, 90% of the actions you can do within that program. The "intuitive mode" of "click on the drag tool, now click on the item we're dragging, now be really careful so it auto-snaps to the x axis to drag along" works just fine, but you can operate so much faster if you know the keyboard shortcuts. Of course good design should be intuitive, but intuitive design without solid functionality beneath it isn't very helpful. Also with Blender as the example, it's not a bad thing either to have more invisible features that don't get in your way if you don't know them, but speed up your workflow if you do.

[@nancyrevelle1552]

Thanks so much for this - you've solidified my reluctance to "upgrade" to 11 which has held firm all these months anyway. I laughed so many times at the ridiculousness of many of these changes (you might as well laugh, right? 🙄). Again, thanks for the eye-opening this morning.

[@_Syhmac]

This video is OUT of date. A lot of things has been already changed and W11 now offers more than W10. And even 2 months ago (when you posted it) it has been offering more. #QYBS

[@BeedrillYanyan]

​@@_Syhmacthere's still a lot of annoying things that we can't get back. Like not combining task bar icons and not displaying everything that used to be displayed in the right click menu by a single right click. His sentiment against Win11 is still valid.

[@nodak81]

"Change for the sake of change." - That's pretty much how I sum up every version of Widows that came after XP. When I was studying programming, the first thing they taught us was don't screw with the user interface. It seems like that's all Microsoft does.

[@gkgameplaycz]

meh, windows 7 tried to improve on XP, and 10 tried to improve on 7. "Change for the sake of change" is a symptom for windows Vista and 8

[@MrTrilbe]

Well that outlook on UX changed, now it's simplify and build on what's common and intuitive to the end user, i.e. now it's mobile phones UI's and their UX, because shock horror, they're going to be the biggest lot of users in the future, programmers still shouldn't change the UI, that's the job of the UX people, normally through UXD now, programmers should be doing what the specialists tell them to do, i don't mean it in a harsh way, the UX team should specialise in UX, programmers should specialise in programming, UX team doesn't tell the programmers how to program, programmers don't tell the UX team how to design a UI and it's UX

[@Devo_gx]

I know we shouldn't have to rely on 3rd party apps to accomplish what we could do before, but Start11 is a great way to restore some of the taskbar/start menu functionality.

[@sonicrockz1011]

theres also a regedit to get rid of the right clicking problem !

[@traveller23e]

@@sonicrockz1011 How long before they quietly remove that option though? Like how they removed the regedits to customize colours in windows 10 years ago.

[@johnd5398]

we have always used apps to do what windows couldn't. It's the whole point of apps.

[@Devo_gx]

@@johnd5398 the difference here is that Windows COULD do it before.

[@MarcinKralka]

I think there's a way to restore Windows 10 taskbar, I'd just do that, but I will stick with Windows 10 for a moment, since I don't really see any reason to upgrade.

[@jerryg50]

Very well explained. I will wait till I have to update from 10 to 11. Originally MS said there will be no newer OS than 10, and only updates. Looks like they did not keep their word.

[@cyphyte]

everything is prone to change

[@MattExzy]

I think the PC manufacturers started to make a song and dance about that. The 'newest' machine I own is 9 years old - it won't run Windows 11. But it does do everything I need it to in good time. If it were up to me, I'd probably just keep using it until it turns to dust. And that's the problem with manufacturers - we had fast enough CPUs a decade ago, unlike the 1990s where your PC was already old and outdated two years after purchase. They lost that upgrade incentive - so here comes Windows 11 with its artificially inflated spec requirements and TPM requirement, which is quite obviously about just generating yet more e-waste, now.

[@yeahthatkornel]

@@MattExzy this!

[@spencerwarren8302]

When win 10 dies I'm seriously thinking I might switch to linux, it'll have a few more years to get even better game support, I already run it in duel boot for productivity stuff And my friend who works at ms is using it as his only os right now. Here's hoping Linux gets even better before Microsoft forces my hand

[@jerryg50]

@@spencerwarren8302 Moving over to Linux after Win 10 has also been on my mind... But, I have reasons of necessity to stay with the Win type system.

[@theCDGeffect]

it's been over a year and still so many things are still a problem from this video. I'm feeling like I'll never be switching to windows 11 and instead waiting for the next version of windows assuming that's not missing features too.

[@ahmadharb]

I love how this video is actually about useful thing and not just a rant about windows. High quality as usual. I actually liked the audio format as well !

[@RustyNova]

> Create shake to minimize apps, doesn't advertize it > "User don't use that? Then let's not add it to 11" That's backward thinking. Now I'm gonna shake windows more

[@Juanguar]

It’s the same with Apple killing 3D Touch on their phones

[@joeykeilholz925]

Lol same reason 3D touch on iPhones disappeared

[@vadnegru]

Wow, fastest way to minimize all

[@leysont]

lmao i grew up with windows and never used that. i remember there might have been such a thing in win 7 but i completely forgot about it and didn't even know it was still there in win 10. anyway, on linux i can do what i want.

[@Damian-cilr2]

Funny thing is,that thing didn't work on windows 10 for me last i tried it,lol i guess i toggled the setting and never noticed really

[@jammin023]

Back in the days of Windows 3, there was this thing called Program Manager which was the main way to launch applications. Within its window, you were completely free to organise your programs any way you wanted, including grouping them into subwindows. It was great, and I never understood why they got rid of it in favour of just a long list when they brought in the Start menu in W95. This is why people ended up dumping stuff onto their desktops instead - you know where it is and you don't have to search for it in a long list. The tiles on Windows 10's start menu were a vague attempt to recapture a little of that freedom, and now they've got rid of them again and gone back to a system which offers very little control and no grouping. Just bring back Program Manager fgs!

[@marctreal]

Why should Microsoft bring back the program manager given the desktop exists?

[@jammin023]

@@marctreal The desktop has no subgroups for organisation, is stuck in the background instead of being in the foreground as a launcher should be, and many people prefer to keep it clear/minimal - why should you have a bunch of icons permanently cluttering up your workspace when you only occasionally need to click them?

[@nobbyfirefly57]

@@marctreal because we want to be able to see our wallpapers

[@TTMS-Khaz-kun]

Maybe it's because I grew up with Win 95 and XP, but I actually liked having the little applications list thingy you used to have. Of course it didn't work for everyone, but it did for me personally.

[@kotomishione]

@@DigitalNegative gaming on linux sucks ass unless u have a steam deck or strong pc

[@Akirasip]

Change for the sake of change is a plague upon humanity.

[@leonardo5941]

"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made"

[@millo7295]

It's the same with the instant hate to ANY change You just want an excuse to be mad because your life has no problems

[@blckbx0]

The one feature that I would miss the most if I upgraded is the opening the task manager by right-clicking the taskbar. Guess who isn't thinking about upgrading anymore

[@TagetesAlkesta]

You can get to it by right clicking the start button, or pressing Ctrl+Shift+Esc. Windows 11 still sucks, but thought I’d point this out

[@Rerbun]

@@TagetesAlkesta that follows the theme of the video nicely "there is a different way that Microsoft wants you to use instead"

[@SkyKrye]

@@TagetesAlkesta thank you so much for pointing it out

[@rricci]

@@Rerbun Next car manufacturers will put the brakes on the turn signal post. Can you imagine the hours of fun and excitement you'll have as you accidentally hit the brakes while signaling?? Great fun for the entire family!! Seriously, why change things when we're used to doing it a certain way? Ridiculous.

[@Dragonofshame]

@@TagetesAlkesta oh my gosh thank you so much

[@leave-a-comment-at-the-door]

One thing you didn't mention (about that taskbar again) was that if you have too many things pinned to the taskbar, instead of giving you arrows to be able to see all the different programs that are open, it just hides them with no way to access those programs unless you alt-tab to them. edit: they "fixed" this a month or two after my comment was posted, now there is an overflow menu. They still do not dynamically shrink or go into a second row like in windows 10, but if you have more than the space allows you get a " . . . " as your final icon and that displays the rest of the icons when you click it.

[@nox9598]

This is what annoyed me the most. I don’t and will never understand why they made such a stupid change.

[@mirageowl]

and then you meet the full screen alt-tab...

[@leave-a-comment-at-the-door]

@@mirageowl do you mean win-tab? alt-tab does the same thing as normal, doesn't it?

[@mirageowl]

@@leave-a-comment-at-the-door last time I tried win 11 (feb 2022) pressing alt-tab would blur the entire screen so you can't see what was in the foreground. It was very jarring if you were used to quickly switching between windows with alt tab (something a developer would do all the time you assume, but microsoft developers amaze me) There were news of an insider build that made it look normal, I hope that that feature got rolled into the user version quickly. I am going to be happily using win 10 for the foreseeable future though.

[@leave-a-comment-at-the-door]

@@mirageowl I have to use win11, because of... circumstances, and currently (from what I can see; I have like 20 different windows open and so can't see the background well) it doesn't blur the display at all, it just makes it a shade lighter while you have the key actively pressed down. (but, I mean, usually I swap between windows faster that the graphic pops up, so it doesn't effect me much) There is a separate feature with win-tab rather than alt-tab, which shows you the alt-tab screen, and then lists your open desktops below it, but it would be so much better if win-tab just swapped between desktops like alt-tab does between windows. It would make sense, too, because tab often goes to the next item, ctrl-tab goes to the next tab, and alt-tab goes to the next window, so why can't win-tab go to the next desktop? It would actually improve my workflow significantly, maybe I should look in to that.

[@holysecret2]

I have seen this "change for the sake of change" design philosophy all over the place in recent years. It can be quite infuriating, why change or even take out key features for literally no reason? In my opinion in a situation where you diverge "sideways" from a working basis, and rather than directly improve on something you instead want to scrap and try out something completely different, you should do that in a version 2.0, and leave a working 1.0 rather than damaging it for everybody

[@keithtanner2806]

Firstly, well said. The rot set in with Vista and it has been a steady deterioration ever since. The first sign was the loss of the Search facility where previously it was possible to input a single word and its location in any text file would be instantly revealed and highlighted. When Win 10 ceases to be “supported”, I use the term advisedly, I ditch Windows for good.

[@Damian-cilr2]

windows 7 was still great,i\d argue the "rot" started with 8,given how hard they are trying to be a touchscreen os (WHEN ITS A FUCKING DESKTOP OS)

[@chrissolace]

Visually, it does seem more aesthetically pleasing, but even as a light user of Windows, a lot of these features really negatively impacts my experience. Windows has always been ubiquitous with customizability for me and to see a lot of the features I use to customize basically gone (when I don’t think they’re that niche) is really confusing and saddening.

[@honkhonk8009]

It looks fucking hideous bruh. I shit you not, when I tried out linux, it looked so much BETTER. I think it was Gnome i was using. Windows goes out of their way to make shit look as hideous and as busy as possible. One reason why people love Apple is how simplistic they make their shit look. Perfect for devices that just need to work. Windows doesnt understand that. Everything gotta look tacky as shit for no reason

[@MundaneGray]

I work with JPEG and PNG images a lot. Under Windows 10, I had it set up so that double-clicking an image file would open it in my image viewer, but I could right-click and select Edit from the context menu to open it in my graphics editor. But in Windows 11, the Edit action is gone from the context menu. Yes, I can right-click the file and select Open With, then the editor app. It's more complicated, but I can still do it. But using Edit was simpler and more intuitive. Why remove it? Change for the sake of change.

[@Elfcheg]

I believe Edit is still there, it's under "more options" in the end of the context menu list. Still, it's more than one click away, why?

[@ThatOneAmpharos]

Even if the algorithm hate you, I'll be here for you whenever I can. o7

[@ChannelScottify]

O_o7

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

Finally, yesterday I got see-through folders back that they took away in Win 11. If you have a lot of folders with similar names, it used to be so easy to just look at the folders and see the miniatures and see which set was in which folder. For example, if you have taken a lot of sunset pictures and the other pictures were of indoor pictures, the colours were easy to distinguish and thus finding the right folder would be easy. Another thing they broke around 2018-ish, was the search function. I used to get a lot of files with some Mac file extensions, that I didn't need in Windows, and I could search on those, to me, well-known file extensions and quickly delete them. This disappeared for some reason, and I haven't tested out if it works again.

[@ajbrady4357]

My biggest issues with the newer windows versions is their reliance on the new settings app. Everything there looks so samey and it’s really hard to find out where all of the important higher level settings are located, and most of the time those settings are just in control panel or an equivalent legacy app. Why make this new application that’s hard to navigate if it won’t have the same power as the older ones?

[@yeahthatkornel]

I've always hated the "Settings" app. Not sure what will I do when they remove the legacy Control Panel and such.

[@Olivia-W]

Single instance of Settings is a pain and horrible. Why. Let me multi instance- or is Settings so broken that would kill it?

[@patrick4247]

As a Win 10 User I always using Control Panel, because I know this since Win 7. Even after using 8 years of Win 10 I still cannot find stuff in the new Settings App

[@nigelfreeman6192]

I find the new windows settings confusing and hard to navigate. What’s even more annoying is that a lot of the time it takes you back to the old control panel anyway.

[@lawncrow]

I got a new laptop yesterday, and of course, they were VERY eager to get me to upgrade to 11 on start (thank god it still came pre-installed with windows 10). This video pretty much confirms all of my suspicions that I had regarding Windows 11, barring the fact that a lot of apps probably aren't even supported yet, it just never seems like a good idea to update to a new operating system when it's still in it's semi-infancy phase. But, having said that, you're probably not gonna get a better OS down the line if it was just badly designed from the start.

[@vilnaszekje]

You can customize a lot of those features with 3rd party tools WinAeroTweaker. If someone whines because they couldn't do it, doesn't mean others can't.

[@ShadowDrakken]

I think the drag and drop thing is a side effect of moving the Start Menu to XAML, and the developers just not re-implementing the feature. Because you CAN actually still drag and drop things to the task bar from anywhere else o_O Drag and drop files into task bar applications has since been fixed. The right-click taskbar menu is still there, always has been. it's just limited to the Start button now instead of the blank space of the task bar.

[@jedd0101]

Folders on the start menu and file preview in folders (on the File Explorer) are on Insider builds on Windows 11 already. These features are just only making their way up into Windows 11. Windows 11 was definitely released as an unfinished product unlike Apple's where they just refine the OS in initial release.

[@paegr]

Don’t worry bro it’s not Unfinished, it’s just a Live Service™ Operating System!

[@ViorelIanasi]

You can find the RTM (final) version of the 22H2 version which will be released later this year.

[@DavidStruveDesigns]

Considering Windows 11 is built right on top of Windows 10, and 10 already _had_ these features, I don't understand how they managed to erase them in the first place - _and_ how it's taken them _this long_ to finally get around to adding them back!

[@mirageowl]

this is the exact same thing I hear about all the features I am looking for... I want them on the actual build not the insider builds... They shouldn't launch an unfinished OS

[@yuandoowee]

This is why I'm still sticking with Windows 10. Windows 11 just lacks too many features that it feels more than a downgrade rather than an upgrade. They should bring back the features in the next feature update this month. If they did that, I would absolutely upgrade to Windows 11.

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

i run a dual boot PC, windows 10 and linux.. the best of 2 worlds for now. Windows give me a heartattack due to stress and no way to relax and linux is my vacation OS, no stress and everything is dandy

[@zhanucong4614]

i had no choice but to switch to Linux

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

@@zhanucong4614 yea, it was a lifetime of headache or switch to linux as a main system. Something wrong with my choice?

[@zhanucong4614]

@@lokelaufeyson9931 honestly no linux is amazing,i really love using terminal,the file management is just perfect and pirating games was never so easy imagine most of viruses not working on your pc, and lets not talk about how good is vim

[@_Syhmac]

Not anymore. This video is out of date. A lot of things has been improved. And some of them are even better than in W10.

[@reimusklinsman5876]

Grouping apps into a single icon is an absolute deal breaker for me. I am constantly running multiple instances of programs in order to better organize or have better productivity. Often when I'm programming, ill have multiple editors open so I can reference different code or I organize my web browsers by task. I have a browser open for work, for video games, and for social stuff. All tabs in each instance is inherently organized and having each instance easily access on my Taskbar is essential to know what I've got on screen and allows me to switch between tasks easily

[@thedreaming6446]

1:41 This video is 11 months old so I'm sure you already know that you can actually drag apps from the start menu to the task bar in order to make a shortcut, but there is a catch. You have to go to "all apps" and do it from there. It works great and I'm glad it is there. Don't know if this was available when the video was made but I'm glad it is there now.

[@boirfanman]

Quicker and easier to right click really.

[@Dreijer94]

In my opinion, the worst part about W11 is that there are no seconds displayed on the clock. No wait, the ABSOLUTE WORST part is that you cannot show the full display name of the items in the taskbar. Such as showing the song name in Spotify, or what folder I have opened in that specific Explorer window. I hate is so much. I know that I am a minority of users who used it prior to W11. But I loved it and depended heavily on it for quick alternating between windows.

[@Dreijer94]

Edit: Just came to the taskbar grouping part of the video. God damnit!

[@UltiMaker2]

The seconds display is something I use all the time in Win10, that's one of the reasons I'm not upgrading to 11

[@valkenhayn412]

I love windows 10's full screen translucent start menu and I love the tiles if they don't bring that back in any other version of windows... I think win10 is the last one for me I tried win11 and just couldn't handle it so went back to 10 the start menu is a joke, even worse than mobile app menus LMAO. Its disgusting to use and the less than low customizability is absolutely ridiculous. Icons taken from Android 1.0, a "recommended" area that you can't remove (this is just insane to me)... in win10 the start menu looked like a powerful piece of the OS, but in 11 its an ugly pimple that you're forced to look at every time you want to do something. the taskbar is another weird one. not having the ability to reach task manager in 2 clicks is a step backwards if you ask me, and the sound and internet icons are now merged..... why?! what could possibly be the reason for that? so dumb.. and then there's the right click.. jesus fucking christ what were they thinking when they made those options? Yes, its very pretty, but totally useless. I use 7zip a lot and having to go through 2 menus just to use it is so fucking stupid (2 menus that have the exact same options btw LOL) win11 looks like a beta version designed by the new intern that quit Apple to come work for Microsoft there were some things I liked, like the design of the settings menus. Looks very close to what you find on a smartphone these days, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It does look nice, tho maneuvering inside the menu is awkward.. I'm not sure Microsoft knows that there's still people using regular PCs. For some weird reason they made win11 with only touch devices in mind, which is odd considering windows phones died a long time ago and tablets outside of the Apple ecosystem are pure garbage.. but whatever Another thing I really liked was the notifications and the way they looked and showed up on screen, at least I remember liking them from the small amount of time I used the system. and.. that's about it everything else, I despise remember when windows was the pinnacle of productivity, made for people that liked messing with their systems, allowed for endless customization and was open to its users to do as they pleased, because it was their own PC? pepperidge farm remembers long gone are the days when Windows users could mock Apple for using an OS that grabs you by the balls and doesn't allow so much as a skewed look or you brick the entire system because "YOU DO AS WE SAY" well, fuck the users but also FUCK the users, for accepting this. Bunch of fucking normies with no knowledge on how to deal with a pc is why microsoft can do this. Because 90% doesn't care.. so the rest of us has to deal with a shit OS but whatever, that's a problem for the future and when it all dies at least we'll still have Linux

[@hailuong9295]

at this point Linux is absolutely winner

[@progamering4952]

I might switch to linux after they end support of windows 10

[@MrTrilbe]

The recommended apps bit is silly. Windows icons have always being boring, most linux ones are the too, unless third party. task manager use the shortcut keys (ctrl + shift + esc or ctrl + alt + del and use a mouse), if you're using a mouse to get to it, you don't really need it. Network and Sound on one thing... a few Linux DEs do the same. 7Zip set 7zG as your default zip file handler or 7z if you like command line, it's then on the first right click "new" section.

[@jan_Sanku]

I really like the fact that you specifically made this video in such a way it can be "watched" without watching, because I frequently "watch" youtube with my phone in my pocket while working or walking. Wish more youtubers did that

[@besusbb]

The new taskbar only shows what programs are open with a little line below them was extremely annoying since it's barely noticeable, usually it'd take me less than a second to switch to whatever program I want to use, with the new one it'd actually take over 20s on average, so I headed straight for the system registry to change it back, several days after someone updated my computer, which I never wanted to. The context menu on desktop takes like 4s to open while it used to take less than half a second so I changed the registry for that too. I hate windows 11 so much.

[@AndrewNineTen]

Most of the issues with Windows 11 seem to come down to time constraints, removing drag and drop and folders from the start menu was not a deliberate design decision, they didn't have time to implement it so the OS shipped without these features. Unfortunately shipping software products before they're complete has become EXTREMELY common, but at the very least Microsoft is trying to rectify these issues. Drag and Drop, folders in the start menu, image previews for folders, and customizing space allocation in the start menu are all features that are slated for version 22H2 in September along with other UI updates and new features. I think given enough time, Windows 11 could become a very well-rounded OS with a design language that's in my opinion much better than 10. But for now, if you don't want to deal with missing features then stay away from Windows 11.

[@Ralphunreal]

Windows 11 has drm that requires internet and a MS account to install, that is the part I don't like.

[@Katatonya]

@@Ralphunreal I've never understood what is the problem in that. You're on the internet right now, you are gonna use the internet on that windows machine, and that is the main thing you're gonna use it for. What is the problem in it requiring you to have it ? Or godforsake have a Microsoft account, when you've got a Google one right now. Now there's some benefits here, like if you ever lose a bitlocker key, it would be stored in your microsoft account if you had one, not only on the motherboard, plenty of people lost their storage like that. And there's probably more. If you're gonna throw the privacy argument out, come on man, you're probably using instagram or have used facebook in the past at least.

[@OhSoTiredMan]

@@Katatonya His concern is microsoft tracking, they do to some extent like diagnoses and adverts which you can easily disable.

[@yeahgirl11]

@@Katatonya You are aware that Windows 11 will have a requirement for laptops to have their front-facing cameras always on, right? It starts in 2023. That's weird and creepy.

[@Katatonya]

@@yeahgirl11 A requirement? That sounds pretty unrealistic, no one is gonna install Windows 11 like that. And what for btw ?

[@bobtom1495]

Well I'm good with Windows 10, so 11 is not for me. I already have enough troubles as it is with 10 and trying to constantly update, especially since it greyed out the option to turn off the automatic update. Now I have to constantly go through the Software Distribution files to delete the pending updates. I used to get around that by just simply having the hard drive nearly full so it couldn't download the updates and just the the SSD for storage, but recently, all of a sudden about 15GB of data is missing and I didn't do anything. I can only imagine what trouble 11 would give me. I've heard some things about it...

[@RageGamer15]

11 is actually better

[@foxfm1987ult]

well i completely disabled all updates via group policy editor. Windows keep installing wrong amd gpu drivers over the supported ones. Other than i am perfectly fine. Infact when i tried 11 at the earlier stage bc i had an AMD cpu, the system lagged like hell and i had to switch back. then only i got to know the amd cpu issues. Not going to switch to 11 anytime soon Crap typed policy wrong

[@adtdn30]

This fall, Microsoft is planning to announce Windows 11 version 22H2 "ni_release", this update includes some missing features in the main release of Windows 11 since October 2021, and new features that you may don't know. The drag & drop feature is back. Start menu layout with apps in folder, optimized for touchable screens, updated Task manager, updated Print , tabs in file explorer, better windows snap layout, more focus in focus assist, more accessibility feature like live text captions, voice access, improving the animation and more... The build number of Windows 11 version 22H2 is 22621 and 22622. Now you can try soon this Windows 11 via Windows Insider Program in Beta and Release Preview channel. Hope that you'll change the mind about the next impressive feature update of Windows 11.

[@elcapitan008]

For better or worse, if you have a Windows system that has internet access, you should keep it updated with bare minimum the security updates.

[@PhilipMarcYT]

@@RageGamer15 lol said no one 🤣

[@ExodiumTM]

The two things I noticed the most were that the right click context menu now shows just a few options, and while a button shows all, it's an unnecessary step, but I need to use it often personally. And there's no option to change it back to the old one The second was the right click menu on the taskbar, since I frequently open the task manager. I had to add the task manager icon in the taskbar, but mine is already very convoluted...

[@motoryzen]

There is an option from what I've heard others talk about involving a stupid registry edit or registry file addition..

[@danwake4431]

another commenter mentioned a registry fix, and i just did it. just google it and microsoft themselves tells you how to do it. ITs very quick and after rebooting we have our old right click back.

[@futuza]

​@@danwake4431 while it's good they didn't remove the option entirely, I think it's totally valid to criticize the new default setting - and the fact that you have to go into the registry changes is pretty stupid, it should be a settings menu option.

[@lorenzotaz]

The main reason I went back to windows 10 is because in 11 you can't make Taskbar icons small, and it just takes up too much space on a 15" laptop screen

[@lucasdluengo]

I've been complaining about those same exact issues in Windows 11. As far as I know. The thaskbar/start menu use to be part of explorer.exe up until windows 10. They decided to move all that functionality to a different service for stability purposes. The thing is they rewrote the the entire functionality from scratch. That's the reason for the lack of features.

[@JoePCool14]

Bingo. It's clear they rewrote the taskbar from scratch and were too lazy to implement enough of the features back in for launch.

[@webfischi]

A few days on 22H2 now, I have can confirm that you can pin apps again by moving it to the taskbar, move files by dragging it onto the app in taskbar, and folder previews are back as well, showing just one item from the folder which is more than none like before.

[@AL.N-music]

4:00 I think the streamlining(simplifying) is created for the 'common users' in mind. And yeah, they could mess it up really easily. For you and me, such changes can be a pain coz we do want to navigate to it as quickly as possible. I mean the UI itself doesn't feel 'power user' friendly, it's more like trying to make it feel like a mobile device experience, which is what the new generation of users are used to.

[@Nyxiro]

Yeah you're exactly right, I am a very common and simple minded user and this may be a benefit to me because there were times I messed up and created a mess on windows 10

[@halrichard1969]

Well then they should have one version, Windows for Dummies and then another version Windows for Users. 😁

[@AL.N-music]

@@halrichard1969 or they could maintain W10 in parallel with W11.

[@halrichard1969]

@@AL.N-music very good.

[@DavidStruveDesigns]

How on earth does a regular user "mess up" Windows? The only way I've messed up is by editing the wrong thing in RegEdit - something the average basic user wouldn't even know how to access, let alone know what to do with once they finally got it open. Even with more customization options in previous Windows editions, the only way to really "mess it up" was to end up with malware and virus infections. Or by attempting to delete System32 folder lol

[@anothersquid]

On W10, I had my taskbars on the side. With W11, I am stuck with the thing at the bottom, chewing up valuable vertical real estate on my 16x9 screens.

[@marcokrueger3399]

It seems really odd to add more shortcuts whilst at the same time removing a lot of the contextmenu options. I love to find the window to manage partitions with a right click on the start icon but I would surely not be able to remember the keys for a shortcut.

[@zaidkidwai7831]

I’m always plugging and unplugging my laptop into a monitor, and having it remember where apps were is the main reason why I switched to Windows11. It’s genuinely very useful to me.

[@vibrantgleam]

Finally, somebody a little more positive. I want to look for comments like this because I might have to upgrade when 10 is no longer supported

[@AllardRT]

@@vibrantgleam Why?

[@narcogenic]

@@AllardRT It's not secure to be using windows when they are no longer providing security updates. Especially if you plan on being connected to the internet

[@AllardRT]

@@narcogenic Have an antivirus program. There, problem solved.

[@narcogenic]

@@AllardRT That's not how these exploits work, but if that's what makes you comfortable then go ahead

[@birchtree5884]

I recently moved to Windows 11 because I've never properly used Windows as a daily driver OS. Though there were a number of design decisions that bothered me, I went into it with the mentality of learning a new GUI, just like when I would switch DEs in Linux, so I wasn't as miffed as a seasoned Windows 10 user would be. Watching this, I can understand how said Windows 10 user would be frustrated at the design decisions, but I've never got used to them, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@LevitatingCups]

Back from using win3.1 (as a kid), and using 95/98/me as a teen, then xp when a bit more grown up, win11 is regressive, win7 prob peaked, win 10 not so horrible, but win 11.. el-o-el.

[@dockeydidit]

Start menu icons CAN be combined like with android. Drop it on another icon and it creates a group. What you CAN NOT do easily is pin file shortcuts to the start menu. Must create a folder in the Start Menu/Program folder and create a shortcut in that folder then you can pin it to start.

[@kirkmooneyham]

Every one of these videos I watch just reinforce my resistance to switching to Win11. I've been using Linux Mint on my home desktop for quite a few months now. While I have Win10 on another hard-drive, I haven't booted into it for quite a while.

[@CasualGamers]

Windows 11 is bad. I have to do more clicks to do the same thing, like when you right click a file and have to go to show more options to get what you want. Geez. The right click taskbar is also utterly annoying. They should just give us an option to enable old features again, but instead we have to do registry edits and reach out to 3rd party software to bring back functionality that previously existed.

[@XeZrunner]

8:00 You can still turn Aero Shake back on. They just disabled it by default for the reason you mentioned.

[@SuperZeve]

>Go to unzip a file >Right click >See that you can't unzip, so press click more options >Get the same box which was used in windows 10! Also full screen start menu is just gone, I liked full screen start menu.

[@technologyandsociety21C]

Windows 11 is important for those who want to get the most out of 12th Gen or later Intel processors with P cores and E cores. Windows 11 selectively schedules tasks to the right type of core for optimized performance and reliability.

[@invasive175]

only reason i upgraded to 11

[@Alessia362]

FYI: Windows 11 Start menu supports folders, so you can group apps that way if you wanted to. Just drag and drop pinned icons on top of each other and you can create the folder.

[@JstDave]

For now only in the beta though. As well as the tabs feature in the explorer.

[@VmikeY99]

I have similar thoughts. I upgraded my laptop to Win 11 because I was curious about how it's working and how it feels. After a reset the system feels good but it brought nothing ground breaking new that would make me switch on my main system. From these, which were brought up in the video, I really miss the right click menu on the taskbar and also the small icons on the new system, because that's something I've always used since I've had Windows 10. Most of these thing can be easily fixed I think, but right now I'll stick with Win 10 on my main system as long as I can.

[@johnsnell1929]

I thought it was just me - that I was not finding the settings for this stuff when I had to work on W11 systems... didn't occur to me that MSloth would be stupid enough to actually remove these features. My work takes me to many offices where I need to work on documents on _their_ systems, running various versions of windoze. Often, in order to STREAMLINE _MY_ work, I need to have the taskbar at the right or left side, with small icons NOT grouped, so that I can quickly click between windows of the same program, conveniently listed in lines down the side of the screen, and give as much vertical space for long lists I deal with. Whelp, so much for that! On the bright side, I guess my employers that switch to W11 are happy to pay me extra for the additional time it takes to do the same work. That's streamlining, right? Right? Forty years on, and MS is STILL taking "crippleware" to new levels!

[@Lancemarkful]

Windows 11 taskbar and Menu are created from scrach. There are not made by modifying old ones. That's why there is much less functions. There is a way to just disable the new stuff, and then the old taskbar and start menu from Windows 10 will appear completely identical to the Windows 10 version

[@Conserpov]

_> Windows 11 taskbar and Menu are created from scrach._ By incompetent people who wouldn't be allowed to draw icons for Windows 95 back in the day.

[@ex101jc]

Funny: I just access apps by typing their name. Did so since Windows 10 so it just adapts to what most people are doing. That‘s why it‘s not a big deal to me for the task bar being less adjustable. So I actually could deal really easily with the changes and to me I prefer to have the latest OS if possible. As a matter of a fact, there are several devices in my posession that cannot be upgraded

[@HNBGamer]

I've just had a new laptop so I'm stuck with Windows 11. I've tried XP, 7, 8, 10, 11 and I'd just say Win 8 is still the worst. I do have some problems with Win 11 at first (folders don't show what's inside, can't drop stuff to taskbar) but I've got used to it. It's practically as good as Win 10, IMO.

[@QPoily]

It's crazy how niche yet how important it is to so many people to be able to drag and move the startbar where they want. It's unfortunately one of those niches that causes "normies", for a lack of a better term, to mock you and make excuses for MS as to why you shouldn't want to have such a feature. Personally it's extremely important to me since I flat out drag my startbar to right side of my left monitor. It gives me extra screen space on my main monitor while also showing me my startbar when I'm using fullscreen applications such as games which makes it easier to track notifications, statuses, and even makes it easier to quickly click on stuff from the startbar either when I alt-tab or am running a borderless windowed screen program. Especially when using a borderless windowed screen program it enables me to use the startbar without having to alt-tab. I can simply drag my cursor to the right side of my left monitor and use the startbar quickly without any extra button inputs.

[@chrismclean4789]

I came here because I use Firefox, which was in your thumbnail. I thought Firefox would be unaccessible in Windows 11. Out of all the people, you're the one to click bait people? I expected better from you.

[@bI00n]

U do realise that edge has preventions from installing chrome and Firefox, including tons of pop ups, and windows doesn’t come with chrome so that is why he included it.

[@TheRythimMan]

I’m starting to understand why the upgrade went fine for me while everyone else hated it. Most of the lost features that you mentioned I either never knew about or never used. Actually I’ve never kept up to date on stuff like that since they got rid of windows XP. I will admit that there isn’t much reason to update. Mostly just a coat of paint. The only real improvement I notice is in the dictation software, which is very accurate and automatically punctuates. But I imagine that’s something I use that most other people don’t.

[@Tubeytime]

Shh tow the line shh

[@zeckma]

I was part of the insider's program that got an early build of Windows 11, and being a power user on 10, I basically concluded that 11 is just 10 with a new UI. Still the exact same functionality, and only two new features worth mentioning were promised in 11. If anything, they took things away, not added to the user experience. Since February, I just switched to Linux, and a small group of devs are better at creating a desktop environment than a company it seems. By all means, it's not the fault of the devs at Microsoft, it literally is just Microsoft's head's fault. But yeah, on Linux, you don't really have to worry about this stuff. It should be seen as a right, not a privilege.

[@alexandrubossro]

Something bad about Linux is that you have bit too much freedom sometimes and you could break your system just doing "rm -rf /" without "sudo" (happened to me). But everything else it works like a charm. And I completely agree with you, not the devs are the fault, the company order them to do these things.

[@missingno2401]

i could not update to windows 11. there was so much technically wrong with the whole system that i switched immediately back to windows 10. - the lag of dragging explorer windows around was too much - gaming performance suffered. now on computer games it's like 1 or 2 frames but on vr games, there is never a consistent framerate. - add onto that the beautiful ui design changes by microsoft

[@Liggliluff]

Please do make more videos like this if there's more features. This is good stuff to know. Also good if you make another video on this, to mention what features in the previous video is available at that point.

[@jbdallara]

The taskbar corner overflow is for me the dumbest regression. From times immemorial, we had the option to display all the app launched in the notification bar. One toggle to switch and voila. But for windows 11, we must toggle individually every new software to be shown on the right corner. And the software must be running to be toggled on. Crazy...

[@callmemasfer]

A lot of these problems are fixed in the Insider build, but these problems shouldn't exist in the first place. It's not a simplification but rather an unfinished product released to the public. Windows 11 release is way too rushed.

[@MidnightWonko]

Thanks for the vid. These changes to Win11 don't sound horrible as much as they sound irksome. I'm gonna sit on Win10 for now.

[@nerdy_lj]

Super interesting Video. I really don't understand why they removed the drag and drop into other programs over the Taskbar... that's actually a huuuge deal breaker for me as I use that really a lot.

[@SharonExcelliCh]

you can drag and drop into other programs over the taskbar but in the next update, i try it in beta channel

[@doreenspillman7890]

I loved the Tiles in Windows 10 . . . . once I figured out how to change what tiles were there, because Microsoft's defaults were useless to me. So many people have no idea how to change the tiles. I have 5 programs that I can launch from my keyboard (Microsoft's Wireless keyboard 3050), then there are the Tiles set-up for the programs frequently used. (Mind you, I dread the thought of changing the quick launch programs on my keyboard . . . . and am thankful that the computer retains that set-up so that I simply plug in the dongle of the new keyboard when too many of the letters have worn off the old one!!) Maybe Windows 11 will go the way of Vista and simply be replaced with a new version that returns the features we love e.g. as they did in XP. "Rounded corners on the icons" . . . . Come on! Who said they wanted that anyway. Changes to the colours . . . .. THAT is just another cosmetic bit of nonsense! I just want to be able to get onto the computer and quickly do the tasks I need to do. .. . not go on a hunt to find things, because they now look different. I won't be changing from Windows 10 until it is absolutely necessary.

[@vanshraj4724]

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[@whact]

i hate how microsoft doesn't support personalization at all, with the user having to use outside programs to change stuff that could have just been integrated into windows by default

[@onlyjust7250]

I don't understand why companies often choose to remove quality of life features to replace with ones nobody wanted

[@Rerbun]

Very often the company will completely rewrite the application in a new(er) language/framework and just leave miscellaneous stuff out to ship it before the deadline

[@adtdn30]

This fall, Microsoft is planning to announce Windows 11 version 22H2 "ni_release", this update includes some missing features in the main release of Windows 11 since October 2021, and new features that you may don't know. The drag & drop feature is back. Start menu layout with apps in folder, optimized for touchable screens, updated Task manager, updated Print , tabs in file explorer, better windows snap layout, more focus in focus assist, more accessibility feature like live text captions, voice access, improving the animation and more... The build number of Windows 11 version 22H2 is 22621 and 22622. Now you can try soon this Windows 11 via Windows Insider Program in Beta and Release Preview channel. Hope that you'll change the mind about the next impressive feature update of Windows 11.

[@stevenlitvintchouk3131]

Perhaps it's because user feedback is more likely to stress new features the users want added, than existing features the users want preserved. Far more feedback is about "We would like the ability to do X in the future" rather than "We don't ever want to lose the ability we have now to do Y"